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25:55It's basically Tommy Reese bring you bringing people who's got a play call, by the way, just a little news. Yeah. And his assistant to the head coach as well. He just brought over. And so he's, he is bringing over essentially what he had in Cleveland and just sort of transferring it with an, I think an upgrade, you know, obviously Bill Callahan. And that's that's a great hire on paper. Right. But but I think like this is so interesting to me because when I made the passenger comment, I mean, he's a passenger in this press conference. You know, Matt Ryan is full on broadcast franchise quarterback.

26:27Right. And maybe and listen, I made this point a couple of of weeks ago or days ago. I don't remember. Time has no meaning at this point in the season, but like it it's maybe they needed that. Maybe they needed like a voice, you know, like a direction, a voice. And at the moment, they don't care who it comes from. Well, I think that's a great way to frame it because I think you're right. I think the Falcons are trying to be like a Ravens type of organization where it's top down and it's a system that the coach is going to fit into. And Stefanski talked about and to be fair to Stefanski, I mean, he did talk the most at that press conference.

27:03It was not mostly Matt Ryan, but Matt Ryan said the only few like interesting things and was much more commanding. So that's what I picked out. But yeah, he said, like, I came here mostly because of Matt Ryan more than anything. And he threw Arthur Blanken. But my relationship and the belief in him and our connection and how we talk. And I kind of believe it. Their GM's not even in place. They have two finalists. It's either going to be James Lipford from the Houston Texans with two I's in Lipford. Not familiar with him. And Ian Cunningham, who you've talked about and talk to on your podcast. That will be the choice.

27:39And it sounds like that'll happen soon. Just a couple little like newsy items. You know, he was pretty positive, Stefanski, about Michael Penick. Says he gets through his reads fast. They were definitely, you know, trying to talk up Michael Penick. Didn't really want to say anything about his time with Kirk Cousins. So maybe that's telling in what he didn't say. He, again, I wrote hired. He would not go into the Baker, the Baker drama of it all. I did like D. Orlando Ledbetter said, sorry for sicking Baker on you guys. What do you think about all that? And he was just like, I love rivalries. I have a ton of respect for Baker Mayfield.

28:16That was all he wanted to say. D. Led, what a legend. It was all he wanted to say about that. And he also said the quote, smooth seas do not make skillful sailors. I think I saw that on a wooden sign in someone's kitchen. Because the question was kind of like, hey, what do you say to the Falcons fans that note you won seven games combined over the last two years or something like that? And I was like, oh, suddenly it was kind of a hard question. You know what wasn't a hard moment was the moment that Chris Babona came up with a theory that immediately cracked me up and made me laugh, where he pointed out that Kevin Stefanski kind of resembles the Falcons logo.

28:55We're showing this to you when he is in profile. I kind of buy it. I know it's not like a one-to-one thing, but spiritually, he is kind of the Falcons logo. There's a little similar like angular swoop. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the coloring. And look, I love that logo. He said it was an iconic logo in the NFL that he's always looked up to. I was like, I don't know about that with the Falcons. But he's kind of got an iconic profile. He's a handsome man. I was on the rundown. I was wondering what the hell that was. Let's take a break. Let's actually take a break while listening to, again, just a fun little moment I had watching this.

29:35And, you know, Matt Ryan showing that he's with the cool kids. He knows the Atlanta references. He understands the assignment. On the other side, we'll do some more coaching news and a little Super Bowl. Sam Crenshaw, CBS Atlanta, N9290 Game. Welcome to Atlanta, Coach. I feel like we should be saying where the players play. Go right ahead. Just feel free. Where the players play. Look, it's Stefanski.

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33:44No, I wouldn't say that anybody hurt anything. You know what I mean? Again, this is a sport where there's going to be things that come up, but I don't think that there's a, you know, we'll talk about whatever status each player has for the game. Once we're required to, we understand that. But, you know, we were able to function offensively, throw the football, run the football. so that's kind of where everybody's at Ask a couple other times too Is he breathing? He's fine I'm not in the position to say anyone heard anything or nobody heard anything You're asked pretty directly does your starting quarterback have a shoulder injury and you won't answer that I think it could be something and I know the exact play that he came down awkwardly and almost immediately sort of grabbed at it.

34:38And, you know, it was in the play. It was in the game when he got tackled kind of awkwardly from behind, I believe, on a rush or actually was like a short sack where he had run up to the line of scrimmage. And my spidey senses say this is actually a little bit of a thing because they even asked Drake May if he thought he would be limited. And he said it was too early to tell with that. But I'm optimistic. Obviously, he's going to be playing this game. He finished that last game, all this stuff. But it's kind of the last thing they need with a big uphill battle against what I believe to be the best team in football.

35:10Yeah, I agree. And also he said on WEEI that he's like, I wouldn't say it's injured. It's more like, you know, you throw for 30 weeks in a row. And I'm like, OK, so that's sort of subtly admitting that there is there's something that's really that is bothering him, but not trying to assign it to like a specific incident or like an incident that could be like, that's where he was injured. to me there's a lot of like hedging there's a lot of hedging but it's also something you know people are people whisper people talk and so i think it's going to be a topic of conversation over the next couple weeks let's talk about things we actually do know let's go briefly with the brian dable news which i don't want to stick on because it's more of a statement about where reporting is on this cycle brian dable was uh bouncing around as a candidate in different spots It was reported by ESPN and The Athletic.

36:03I don't want to get you in trouble, so I'll just speak on it, that he was going to take the offensive coordinator job in Tennessee, which would be really interesting. Cam Ward, Brian Dable. And then almost immediately afterwards, it said, well, he's still in the mix for the Raiders job, in theory. And then there was another report following up that said, well, he's also possibly in the mix for the Eagles offensive coordinator job. What are we reporting? Like, what is with these contingent reports? I don't need it. Let's wait till he's actually, let's wait till it's actually reported. Let's even just move past it.

36:39I'm not even going to let you talk about this. Because it's just like, I was texting with different people about this. What is the contingent reporting? It was happening with Mike McDaniel in LA, and he did end up in LA. We'll get to that in a second. But if he's still in the mix for other jobs, who cares that one team expects that he's going to take their job, but they don't really know. You know what we do know? Jonathan Gannon is the Packers defensive coordinator. Do you have thoughts about your Arizona Cardinals former head coach? I mean, you grew up a Cardinals fan. You got to wear that more often.

37:13Going to Green Bay and being back in the spotlight for a team competing in their minds for a Super Bowl. I think that Jonathan Gannon is an outstanding defensive coordinator. So I think this is a good hire. What I am interested in is the personality dynamics between Matt LaFleur, who is quite specific. I was like, what word are you searching for? Controlling? I actually don't know what you're searching for. He's very specific about how he wants to do things and what he wants. It also Jonathan Gannon is the same way. So blending those two philosophies together, being as aggressive as they were, which was a refreshing change, I think, for Packers fans to see a defense that was not going to sit back in some of these deeper zone coverages and instead was going to get a little bit more aggressive.

38:04That's something I think Jonathan Gannon can absolutely help with. I think he's it'll be interesting to see. I'm curious about who he brings over if he can from that previous staff. There's a couple of guys on defense over there that are sort of just waiting for their turn, waiting to maybe stay or go, depending on what Arizona does at head coach. His coordinator, Nick Rallis. Nick Rallis specifically would be the top one. But it is interesting to me because this is an example of a high-profile defensive coordinator candidate and the Packers actually going after it and doing it. There was a lot of, I think, well-earned criticism of the Packers this offseason about the level of investment that they allow their coaching staff to make in their assistant coaches.

38:46Justice Moscata did a really, really great look at that and the experience level and how much that's dropped off because you don't have the financial terms as well. I just think that this is a little bit of a sea change type of move for the Packers that they're willing to go out and get somebody who was a former head coach and who has a track record of being a very, very good defensive coordinator. Yeah. And he's been flexible. Well, his defenses in Arizona look nothing like his defenses in Philadelphia, which I actually think is a credit to him because he had such different types of talent. I really liked this two minutes that I saw from a reporter or a radio host I was unfamiliar with before.

39:24His name is Grant Bilsa, where he did like two minutes where like, it's fine. The Halfley hire was fine. Halfley's performance was fine. This will probably be fine. And I kind of agree. I agree with all that. There's not as big of a difference between it all as you think. There's actually a lot of similarities, maybe because LeFleur wants things run a certain way. He even went back to the Joe Barry was actually more fine than you think. It wasn't that big of a difference. I don't know if I would have gone that far, but I get what he's trying to say, and I do. I agree with him. I think it'll be fine.

39:58And it would be a good spot if they do well that Jonathan Ginnick could get back in the mix. The Jets made a surprise move. They are getting rid of Tanner Engstrin, their offensive coordinator. That just came out Tuesday afternoon, right before we were taping. I was going to talk about how quietly after a couple weeks, he wound up getting rid of about seven or eight different assistant coaches, Aaron Glenn and Zach Rosenblatt at The Athletic reported how a lot of these coaches were kind of given the impression that they were going to stay. And Engstrand, I think, was one of those guys. And then they started looking for someone who would come over the top of him and maybe call plays, but he would get to stay.

40:37That someone might be Frank Reich. It sounds like the strong choice to be offensive coordinator. That really worked last time. But now that Engstrom is no longer there, you know, they have to satisfy the Rooney rule for those hires. So they're going to have to like do a full, you know, interview cycle. It doesn't sound great. It either sounds like he was indecisive or ownership's getting involved. but either way, we're like two and a half weeks away from the season ending, right? Are we at three now? I'm losing track of time. And they're just starting over. They're just starting their search. So if you're a Jets fan and you want to feel like better about things could be changing, this does not give you that confidence.

41:16It is so late, to your point, in the process to change what a lot of people don't know because we see the flurries of moves as the season ends. but for teams that are expecting change in advance or for coaches that are expecting to be on the interview cycle, they've already built out like depth charts of their staffs. So not only do you not have that in place, like you've already lost out to all of the people who have already gone and got the guys that they want on their teams. And this is, this is a problem. I think this is a, this is a real problem. And if you're competing with the teams that are left, you know, that are still hiring, because there, there is a lot of hiring to be fair to be to go, But there's been backroom conversations.

41:57You're catching up on that. But also, would I rather join the Bills and Josh Allen and what's going on there? Or Mike McCarthy? You know, like if you're competing in the Steelers, you know, if you're competing with other teams that are late in the process, too, I think the Jets is the toughest sell of any situation because they're on the hottest of seats. Speaking of guys who, you know, were quite popular in this cycle, Grant Yudinski. I just wanted to throw this in there. they announced in Jacksonville is going to get a raise and a new contract. He's going to stay as the offensive coordinator under Liam Cohen.

42:32He was in the mix for the Bills job. The head coaching job clearly did not get it. He was one of the now it seems like countless people who withdrew from the Browns head coaching job before even becoming a finalist. So good job by by them keeping you Dinsky. Let's talk about the Chargers who got their man in the end. It is time for delivering results presented by Uber Eats. When football makes you hungry, order Uber Eats. It is Mike McDaniel's time. And everyone is talking about like, what a weird combination, Mike McDaniel and Jim Harbaugh. And it felt even weirder after he stepped up to the podium.

43:12And according to Mina, Kimes was wearing what she thought was a$12 ,000 Bottega jacket. I mean, that's outrageous. Let's actually listen to McDaniel talking about his interaction with his new boss, Jim Harbaugh. Jim wasn't trying to sell me anything, and I felt that. I think he recognized that, yeah, he was excited about the prospect, if and only if it was a marriage that was consensual and not a hostage situation. You guys' personalities are going to match. I feel like the same guy. He's just taller. He also said later, like, I'm going to go all Dockers from now on. Like, that's going to be my new outfit.

44:00I love it. I mean, he was getting into tricky territory. He wanted a marriage that was consensual, not a hostage situation. I mean, do you know any marriages like that? I don't know. It's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. I'm glad he's out here. Before she divorced. Oh, how dare you? Eyes Wide Shut was an amazing piece of art. I'm just saying, I'll never forget that image of her walking out of the courthouse, Greg. Their strange relationship helped power that insane but cool piece of art. So I support them for that. What a weird combo this is going to be, but I think it's going to be great.

44:36I think it's beautiful. I think it's so beautiful. I like that he said that I think we're the same person because I would tend to agree. I mean, they think about the world differently. I would very much think that, but also, but I think that like Mike is this extremely obsessive football guy who wants to look under every rock and will search far and wide for any type of, of innovation. And that's what makes him, that's a superpower. That's what makes him as gifted as he is. He connects with people. He's authentic. He believes in his players. I think sometimes he was a little too player friendly or willing to acquiesce maybe some discipline on behalf of his players when he was in Miami he won't have a problem with that because Jim Harbaugh will definitely keep setting the tone in that building and I love that it's like a quarterback who is widely considered to be an introvert even though he's built like a superhero it is a sort of a oddball quote yet quintessential tough guy at football guy like the football guy as a head coach.

45:40And then it's also Mike McDaniel, who is a very creative, very talented play caller and scheme designer, who also I think has more to him than a lot of people got to see in Miami. There's a toughness there that we've talked about. I know I don't need to wax poetic again on the show, but that dude got some stuff to him, seriously. And I think whatever those weaknesses were, maybe being too much of a player, like that worked as a coordinator. Yeah. And he spoke, he said all the things that Chargers fans would want to hear about not wanting Herbert to have to do so much, not having him be in such a vulnerable position.

46:13And what Mike McDaniel does best is build a running game, which I'm sure spoke to Jim Harbaugh, and that'll help out Herbert more than anything. So I'm really excited about this subplot of the 2026 season before we even get there. I also like the marriage of McDaniel and the Chargers social team. Yes. Because the Panthers are great. There's some great ones out there, But I think the Chargers right now hold the title as, like, the best social team. And I think it's just going to be a fun little combination. They actually announced that, like, it was officially happening with, like, a little bizarre clip of a social media moment.

46:51Yeah, this isn't going to be a vape question, is it? No vape question. No, how you guys roll. All right. What's up? Mike McDaniel, offensive coordinator for the Chargers. Just a little tease of some game that McDaniel was going to be played. But I love like that was literally the way that they even announced that he was there. Sup, it's Mike McDaniel. This isn't going to be a vape question, is it, bro? That was delivering results presented by Uber Eats. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals on Uber Eats. The official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now. Quickly, the Giants hired Denard Wilson as their defensive coordinator.

47:30He was the coordinator for the Titans last year, but he was with John Harbaugh in Baltimore when John Harbaugh did choose Zach Orr over Wilson as his coordinator when he needed to replace Mike McDaniels. But obviously a lot of familiarity there. The Giants are also waiting to find out what happens with Todd Munkin because they believe that's going to be their offensive coordinator unless Munkin gets another job. and he is still possibly in the mix for the Browns job. Let's wrap up just hitting the three teams that are still available. Like every 12 hours, a new leader in the clubhouse emerges for the Browns job.

48:09There's different guys who have withdrawn from the idea of being it. Right now, it seems to be down to your guy. And by your guy, just a guy with the Rams, Nate Fieldhouse, the young assistant of Sean McVay. does he have passing game coordinator titles okay but not the offensive coordinator that's michael fleur who is on our show todd munkin who mary k cabot says is still in the mix and then jim schwartz their former defensive coordinator uh who at various points people are saying like well haslam is making them keep schwartz or that schwartz could actually just get that job that that's just like sitting out there and it's it sounds like it's gonna wrap up pretty soon like I'm going to be annoyed that it's going to happen right after we're done.

48:56They've gotten through their second interviews and also apparently what's been reported as like personality tests and written assignments and whatever. Because they're definitely doing this process smarter than everybody else is the most highly political team front office in the in the game. No, I really think that this is a complicated thread that they're trying to needle that they're trying to thread because you can't lose Jim Schwartz. You can't. He's got you playing the best defense of year over year of almost any team in the NFL, despite the fact that the offense is consistently letting them down.

49:31And so you can't lose him. But how can you be sure that whoever you bring in isn't going to want to bring in their own guy versus somebody who is already aligned with leadership in the team? Right. You can't. It's an incongruous power structure. It's part of the problem of having a power structure that exists like this in the first place. It's a bad process. cleaning house. It's kind of, they have a, they have a written exam, Greg. I mean, I, I'm not going to make fun of them as much for that, which maybe the coaches didn't, didn't love doing. And who knows? Maybe that's why they withdrew. It's probably more about the situation with the roster and the history of the team under Jimmy Haslam and everything.

50:10But it's bad process. Just like the Steelers are bad process to say like, we need a three, four defense. Like it became clear in the McCarthy press conference to me that like they told him like, we believe in a few different things and here's what we believe. And that's it's if you want to be on the cutting edge, that's not the way to do it. That's probably what happened with Shula. Hey, we want a three, four defense. Oh, I like to play a lot of five men. Right. Bye. Like, right. It's like it just didn't it didn't fit. And so we'll see, because if you're Jim Schwartz, why would you want to stick around with the Browns when if you don't get the head job, they just passed on you.

50:48You might be a little annoyed you're not getting considered for other head jobs. That's not going to happen. But at the very least, you could go to a spot where you get paid great. I'm sure you get paid great in Cleveland. They do pay. But also, you know, you could get a little more pop on a winning team. It must be fun to be more in contention. So we'll see. It's a little messy. I don't think Cardinals or Raiders fans are feeling great either right now. You do wonder, you know, watching the Raiders opening and it's just kind of sitting out there and there's different second interviews happening.

51:21Davis Webb, who is the QB coach in Denver, is getting a second interview with the Raiders. Did Anthony Weaver get a second interview there? I know he did with Arizona. No, not with the Raiders. Clint Kubiak is a name that a lot of people are kind of connecting. And there was Tom Brady announcing the game with you. You know, you were there in Seattle on Sunday and watching maybe Clint's best night as a pro. Yeah. You know, he got maybe so tired of pining for Ben Johnson, who he could never quite have while announcing his games that he's maybe he's thinking, I'm not going to let this happen to me again.

51:55I don't know. It sounds like if it's not this job for Clint Kubiak, like he's perfectly happy to stay where he's at, empowered as possible in Seattle. He might be up for a contract soon as well, especially if a guy goes on the cycle this quickly, usually that means new money is coming his way. And I like the fit and this is a Super Bowl team, so we'll kind of see how it goes. And Mike LaFleur in Arizona, here's the thing. Cardinals fans, however they may think about this and where the Cardinals really stood or maybe didn't stand in terms of competitiveness in the cycle overall, Mike LaFleur is kind of going to be an unknown a little bit in terms of how he'll be.

52:34You're talking about him like you think he's going to get the job. I think he's a favorite to get the job. Kind of an unknown in terms of how he's going to be a head coach, but I will say this. I think he's a much better play caller, especially the second time around when he gets a chance. He's gotten a couple shots to do it in LA for Sean. Certainly better than he was reputationally, at least for the Jets. And he's also maybe the one person who you could tap in to be insane enough to take on Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan And Mike McDonald, his two former bosses, like it's a bad. Honestly, you take away everything else about that Cardinals job.

53:15It's a bad job for that reason. And so he's the one who knows those guys on a molecular level in terms of working so closely with them for so many years and knows how they tick. He would be the one crazy enough to take that job. That's all I'm saying. It's a great point. And I just mean it's too much. We need a little diversity in that division. Mike McDonald come in there to break it all up, and then you add another LeFleur who's like Sean McVay. His brother is the best. I know. We don't need another LeFleur. We don't need another McVay. You would like it. It'd be good for Rod Rieke Corp. Just like another part of the tree.

53:55I'm the NFC West girl here. And you know what? If it keeps fueling the brand, fine. uh michael fleur uh trying to get the nfl daily bump that unfortunately john spitek did not you know but this next year he will i'm sure he's not listening um sounds like by the way sean mcdermott would have had a chance at that job based on some of the reporting and that he is likely to take a year off almost certainly to take a year off from coaching which i think that's good for someone like him i think is really smart might have helped out the fans key and especially for him, like, don't go to a suicide mission type of job just to get the paycheck because you've already gotten that paycheck.

54:33I'm less judgmental about a guy like Michael Fleur. It's like, will he get another head coaching offer in his life? Like he could, but it's very possible he couldn't. And that's life changing money. And I think that needs to not be forgotten in all this that like, yeah, they're doing okay as coordinators. None of this is guaranteed. And you're just offered a five-year contract for millions of dollars a year that represents a, you know, whatever it is, 400, 500 % raise. Like, yeah, most people are going to take that. Like you have to be a Ben Johnson type of confident guy that, you know, you're going to always be that guy.

55:09And I don't blame them for taking it. Temperamentally, I think he is equipped to walk into a situation like that. I don't know how he would be as a coach, but temperamentally, and in terms of how he sees the sport and the big picture of it and, and how he sees off. Like, I think he is equipped to it because the stakes around him are very high. And that's just an almost impossible climb to get out of in that franchise right now. Speaking of high stakes, how about Arthur Smith going to be the Ohio state offensive coordinator? We did our top 50 prospects. When, when I say we, I mean, Daniel Jeremiah did it.

55:44I know nothing about these men, but we talked about it on forties and free agents. We're hitting you with two shows in the feed on Tuesday. So check that one out, too. And I noted how, you know, there's four Ohio State guys in the top 10 prospects, and they didn't find a way to get a win. So you got, you know, to win the title, you got to win. But it's really hilarious to me that Arthur Smith is the offensive coordinator and Matt Patricia is the defensive coordinator. And just at Ohio State, if you had told me that like five or 10 years ago, that would have been very surprised by that. And so good luck to him.

56:14No more Arthur Smith in the NFL. Let's get out of here. We did it. We got in and we got out. And we're going to be back in the feed a little later this week. Me, you, Colleen, and Patrick. I'm looking forward to that. It's going to be fun. I will be back in the feed next with Ali Connelly. That show will be on Thursday. Looking forward to that. I don't know what's next. I'm losing track of all time, space, continue. We're going to go to the Super Bowl, right? Me there. That game will happen. Josh Dobbs isn't going to play in that game, is he? Please.

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