Week 2 Monday Night Football Doubleheader Recap: The Quintessential Baker Game!

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27:22Nick Shook:Mayfield sends it back in motion. Hands the ball off for Sean White. Into the end zone. Is he in? Is he in? Touchdown, Tampa Bay. Touchdown, Tampa Bay. Buccaneers take the lead at 20-19. And as Rashad White straight up the gut. Oh, that's Gene Deckerhoff alongside Dave Moore for WFUS on a night where the Bucs running game had a success rate that I would have accepted on a math test back in high school. They run the ball in at the very end after Todd Bowles, of all people, manages the clock absolutely beautifully. Baker Mayfield did it again. They didn't score Nick for seven straight drives before Baker Mayfield got the ball back with a couple minutes to go.

28:14And when he got the ball back, I don't know about you, but I thought, oh, he's going to go score a touchdown. And you know what? He did it.

28:22Nick Shook:Yeah, he did. The instant cries of, you scored too quickly, Texans, were proven to be correct. uh baker mayfield is a magician he is a ball of fire disguised by a buccaneers uniform uh he's he's somebody that you can rally an entire team around you know back in the day when the browns drafted him first overall john dorsey drafted him first overall because he walked into the facility at oklahoma and made a little like call to his teammates and they all responded because he's a leader he's a guy that players will rally around and he's a guy that players will trust in a moment, a high leverage moment, a moment of adversity.

28:59Nick Shook:You're on the road. You're playing primetime. The stadium's loud. I don't know if the roof was closed or open, but I'm sure it was loud regardless. And he goes right down the field. He converts a fourth down by slipping what would have been a game-ending sack or at least a sack that would have put them in a bad spot because they still had their timeouts. And then he continues to just dot the sideline with passes. They manage the clock, not perfectly, at least from the coaching side, but because Baker's out there, they manage it well. And then they pound it in there. It was just about perfect. What did you have a problem with?

29:27Nick Shook:Well, I felt like they kept the timeout in their pocket, but I don't know if I necessarily would have had them do it. But it paid off because then they were able to run the ball on the goal line because they had that timeout. They kept their timeouts, which to me kept the flexibility. You're right. There was a chance that they would have only had time to run one more play after this, but probably not with six seconds left. I honestly think it was one of the best managed two-minute drills that I've seen in the fact that they kept those timeouts in their pocket and then were able to run it there is a feather in Todd Bowles' cap and Josh Grisard, the lizard king.

30:03I always forget what Jordan calls it. Lizard lick. From lizard lick. Man, he got it done. You mentioned the fourth down play to Baker Mayfield. So, yeah, let's set it up here. Like I mentioned, two minutes and ten seconds left. They have the ball on the 20, so not great. field position had gone seven straight drives without a single point after two touchdowns to start the game. They're playing without their two starting tackles. Tristan Wirfs, not yet ready to play. They're all pro left tackle. They did have Luke Gedeke start this game at right tackle. He actually looked great, I thought, on the first drive, which was a touchdown drive.

30:45Then he comes out, they still score a touchdown on their second drive. After that, you kind of saw the hard-hitting Texans defense do what they do and really shut down Tampa. So that's the sequence that sets it all up. First three plays of the drive, Nick, no yards. Incomplete pass, a completion that doesn't go for anything. Baker, like he was most of the night, is under a lot of pressure. And then we get to fourth and ten and the Bucs, rather the Texans, send another blitz, maybe one blitz too many. 19-14 Houston, Bucs have one more down, fourth down and ten.

31:25Nick Shook:Can Baker Mayfield pull something out of the hat and convert on fourth down and long? Here's the snap, here comes Heat, picked up nicely, Mayfield into pressure, he's going to run! Mayfield to the 40, Mayfield to the 45-yard line. He's tripped up with the 47. So Baker Mayfield, that's a better Baker, does his thing. Yes, it is time for delivering results by Uber Eats, and let's have our Baker conversation because he absolutely delivered. That was a play where you saw the pocket collapsing around him, and I think in that moment, like every Texans fan, and I live with one, he's 10 years old and he's asleep by now, thought the Texans were going to win that game.

32:09And then Baker just does what he does and escapes and flips over in true Baker style and then calms down afterwards. And it's crazy because it's like if you're a Baker hater, he gives you like those bad moments for you to say, oh, well, he got lucky. Like early on, he threw a ball in the triple coverage that should have been picked. He fumbled the ball twice in this game, including a fumble where he punched the ball out of his own hand. It was it was bizarre. Like he had bad moments. And yet when when it really mattered, he comes up with that big play. And that's becoming like the defining thing in what is, you know, just a fascinating career.

32:53Nick Shook:Yeah. You know, in the biggest spots when it seems like the chips are stacked against him, he pulls off not quite miracles, but something close like Henry Tote. had a great game tonight and and he was the guy blitzing kind of a late arriving blitzer that was there to sack baker on that play as we just played if you're watching on youtube and i don't know how he slipped that sack i mean toto almost over pursues a little bit but like there's not a lot of space there he slips it like it's nothing and takes off and runs and as soon as that he takes off you realize the middle of the field is open but in classic baker fashion he doesn't slide he's like bring on the contact he battles multiple like knee issues suffered in the first half i was shocked he was out there after one of them the slow-mo replay his knee gets bent in awkwardly he grabs at it immediately and you're thinking oh no not another quarterback to go down in week two gets right back up gets back on the field he runs he scrambles on that play or it might have been earlier play where he bangs his knee on the turf and grabs his knee again and then cjgj cd deuce is in his face talking trash and instead of being like oh my knee baker understands the moment stands up gets in his face and immediately starts talking trash right back because baker's never gonna be talked down when it comes to trash talk like he he is the he defines the energy of this team and it's just like they did in atlanta last week they're in a tough spot most teams lose in those situations he has no fear goes right down the field hits a bucca for the touchdown last week this week he makes all the plays to set them up for the rushing score that was the top story from this game was the way that he finished the game it's something that we just have to come to expect from him in these key moments now you can never count him out just there's like four quarterbacks you can't count out in these situations pat mahomes josh allen lamar jackson and baker mayfield that's it like those first three you're like oh well those guys all won mvps and then there's baker mayfield not throwing herbert in the mic geno's had actually if you just look at last minute i would throw some good ones i would throw herbert in there i know that people would push back against that I would throw him in there in my own private conversations maybe not publicly yet those four though I would put my life on the line thinking they're gonna go win this game because of who he is and and like we haven't even talked really a lot about how well they were running the ball and how they did defensively and yet it's because Baker dominates the the conversation because he's that special of a player he he is and I think this almost replaces his Rams game as the quintessential Baker game because of all the reasons that I said.

35:21Because he actually only averaged 4.5 yards per attempt. They were inefficient tonight, and he's a streaky player, but he had enough very good moments, including the touchdown to Ibuka early, the first couple drives, and then the plays that mattered late. But they would not have won this game, as you mentioned, if it wasn't for the running game. Let's talk a little bit about Bucky Irving. goes 17 for 71 on the ground, also catches six passes for 50 yards. Rashad White, who gets the game winner there, great job in terms of pass pro, and then 10 rushes for 65 yards. They had a 63 % success rate, which is just outstanding.

36:04You get extra points that it came against this Houston Texans defense. Compare that to 33 % for the Texans. They almost double them up there, and you think about the play calling that the Texans had near the goal line where they decide to throw the ball after getting stuffed once near the goal line with Nick Chubb and he goes backwards. They decide to throw the ball twice. Meanwhile, the Bucs, it was good run blocking for sure for a lot of the night, but I also felt like a lot of that success rate is Bucky Irving turning a negative play or a one yard run into a five yard run or a seven yard run or a four yard run and keeping them on schedule.

36:49He really is a special running back, Bucky Irving. Rashad White's great too, but man, Bucky Irving makes something out of nothing.

36:58Nick Shook:Yeah. Bucky Irving has the explosiveness and the swiftness to kind of like slice and dice knife through a defense to turn what looks like when he first receives the handoff, maybe a two yard gain into a nine to 12 yard gain. and he didn't have a ton of plus 10 yard runs tonight like his average was I think around four yards per carry it was 4.2 but make no mistake he paced this ground game and we knew what he was capable of because of what he did last season the beauty of tonight is that he's not the only guy in that backfield Rashad White lost his job to Bucky Irving last year because Bucky was clearly the better option they're both pretty damn good they're both also good as three down backs it's rare that a team has two guys that they can lean on as three down backs that you could deploy at the same time and keep a defense you know guessing even more because they're both out there and and they combine for what was it 136 yards on the ground i mean that's that's great production right there success rate 63 you said you'd take that on a math test so you're like okay all right like i guess we're taking low grades here but you know who didn't have low grades the rushing the running backs to nevlo grades yeah they got the only d i think in my life in uh freshman like it was i think it was honors math and it was a good lesson for me i then dropped down a level uh the next few years in math it was a first it was really the first time in my life i was like oh you can't just get away with everything um by like by talking and by I like not trying that particularly hard.

38:33At some point, you're going to come up against something that you just can't overcome with that. It was a good lesson. Shout out to Miss Dugray, who taught me a tough lesson in life. So yeah, I took a D, and I'm not going to apologize for it. Look, that was Delivering Results, by the way, presented by Uber Eats, where you can get the best deals on game day food all season long. It's the official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL. It's not too late. You can order now. I mean, we're hearing from people overseas. It's morning in Dublin. It's afternoon in Australia. I'm actually going to be heading over to Dublin next week.

39:11Don't know if I've officially mentioned that on the podcast. Going to be part of a live show too, by the way, where there's some tickets with the Irish NFL show. Michael McQuaid, very excited about that. So go check out his socials, my socials, to get tickets to that. That's on Friday night. I just decided let's throw some plugs in there. Shook, before we get to the Texan side of things and then go to bed, because it's what, 1 in the morning, 1.30 in the morning where you are?

39:37Nick Shook:Yep, 1.30 here in Cleveland. Okay. We gave Bowles the props for managing the game. I think they're much better. They actually hired one of these game management assistants, which more and more coaches and organizations are starting to do. And maybe they get some credit too. but I think this improvement started a year ago. I think it's a well-run organization. They have a lot of injuries. They're missing their two starting tackles. That could have been an excuse. Baker Mayfield was under a lot of pressure. Will Anderson had nine pressures in this game. Daniil Hunter had two sacks. But when you look at the pressure rate and you look at the blitz rate and everything, the Texans actually and the Bucs in terms of their pass rushers were about a draw.

40:23Like the pressure rate was about a draw. And the Texans actually had to send like a lot of blitzes to get their pressure rate. And so if you can make that a draw while you're missing your two tackles and you're going up against this great Texans passers, that's a win. That's good coaching. I just think they're really well coached despite having a brand new offensive coordinator. And then on the other side, I think Todd Bowles has his mojo back. He was sending the heat tonight and he finally has a secondary he can trust again. And the group that's kind of the safety nickel group, Antoine Winfield, Tykee Smith, and the rookie Jacob Parrish.

41:00He can be very multiple, and these guys can tackle, and they're versatile, and they're really good. And Todd Bowles was in his bag. I know they've only won by four points over two weeks, but they were playing pretty good opponents. I am really impressed with what the Buccaneers are doing from a coaching and just organizational perspective so far.

41:18Nick Shook:Yeah, I think the four-point victory margin over the two weeks is an example of coaching. Like, I think that they've put themselves in advantageous positions and made up for the absences, especially a tackle by coaching. Like, I was so impressed by the way Grisard called his game tonight. Like, I just thought that his flow was great. He sensed the situation and called the right plays really well consistently over this night. I mean, obviously, like we said, Bucky Irving kind of elevates that running game, but they were well balanced. They were paced well. They moved down the field when they scored.

41:49Nick Shook:They did it effectively. it's just that when you face that defense especially on the road in an environment like that you are going to run into some you know three and outs and ugly scenarios but overall i was very impressed and i actually had the thought in my head damn it they're going to do it again they're going to lose an offensive coordinator for the third straight year they have the third straight you know new offensive coordinator and they're and they're still going to be successful lizard wizard from like yeah yeah lizard the lizard lick kid the lizard lick guy is going to end up looking at head coaching jobs after this year.

42:19Nick Shook:Like, I don't know how they keep getting away with this. And yet they do because of, you know, I think a large part because they have Baker Mayfield on the field. But yeah, great job of coaching on both sides. And I picked up on those blitzes too from Todd Bowles. It feels like he's back in his comfort zone, getting aggressive again, still being short in his halftime interviews. That's who Todd Bowles is. And I thought it was a stark contrast against the current state of the Houston Texans. And maybe this is where we transition because I have issues with the way the Texans coach this game tonight.

42:45I was really proud of finding the text from Jordan that said, King Gizzard, the Lizard Wizard from Lizard Lick.

42:52Nick Shook:Do you know what that's actually inspired by? What? There's actually a music artist named King Gizzard. I know. I know. I know the references. Big song, Rattlesnake, you know? Yeah. No, I don't. Okay. So, yeah, the offensive line for the Texans, they started well. and they played fairly well, I thought, tonight against the four-man rush. The problem wasn't their individual abilities, although it wasn't amazing. I thought Ursary, who is back at left tackle now, actually played okay. I thought he played pretty well, but the communication of picking up the blitzes was so poor that the second Todd Bowles realized that, it just was blitz on every key down.

43:42And in the end, C.J. Stroud under pressure goes three for eight for 25 yards and took four sacks. And he did not have much of a chance. And by the end of the game, even when the pressure was picked up decently, he was panicking a little bit and had that one throw that, that should have been intercepted where he just like was just trying to get rid of the ball and not, you know, drop back before they wound up kicking a field goal and got very lucky. And so this is a group that's ragtag. It's a new center, you know, replacing an injury and it was otherwise mostly the group that they had in the preseason.

44:24But, you know, there are guys that weren't very effective a year ago in the spots that they had in a rookie and a replacement and it's a bummer for them to look so much like they did

44:34Nick Shook:a year ago in this game yeah because we were sold a bad bill of goods in the offseason oh we just need to change the offensive coordinator we need to make changes on the offensive line we'll be in a much better place we were even sold that they were improved during training camp and yet here we are again watching cj stroud get blitzed a shot i'm one of the people that tried to sell it a little bit no i was sold that by the people who were at texans camp i was writing those things up in the summer. I was ready to buy into it too. D 'Amico said he had his starting five solidified. We talked about it on the show.

45:04Nick Shook:And yet we're still watching CJ Stroud be forced to be uncomfortable. He doesn't trust his offensive line still. And the biggest issue with it is not the fact that they aren't holding up well, especially when you have these changes. That's understandable. It's not the fact that they couldn't run the ball effectively tonight. That's also understandable. It's the way that they called the game. I'm sorry, but if you're anticipating hitting a blitz on third down called up by Todd Bowles, a guy who's notorious for sending pressure and knows that he can send pressure and find success. Can you anticipate it in your play calling a little bit?

45:38Nick Shook:Can you not lean on the pass? Like you look at the run pass ratio on this game. It seems very even because they did run the ball a little bit more in the later stages, which kind of evened it out. But there were stretches in this game in which they were just passing, passing, passing and not turning to the run at all and getting nowhere with it. And there were so many times where CJ Straub would drop back and have nowhere to go with the football now if you have offensive line issues you can call screens you could you know uh potentially roll out your quarterback they didn't roll him out by design until it was fourth and goal and gave him like one option to throw to and of course he sails it over the guy's head because like this offense is just stuck they're in a rut and i think that it could be fixed with some better play calling in anticipation for the situation and this is a first year offensive coordinator he's going to learn this but it just frustrates me because you're you're putting your quarterback who is good in a bad situation to the point where now he's missing throws when he's not pressured.

46:28Nick Shook:And that's really what concerns me the most. The effects from last year are bleeding over into this year, and it's undercutting your entire offense and making you lose games like this tonight, a game that you very much had a chance to win. Yeah, I would give the grade for CJ Stroud as a C tonight. There were good moments. I will stand on the table and take all the stock people are giving away in CJ Stroud. No, I'm taking it. And I'm believing wholeheartedly in two things from tonight. CJ Stroud is going to have a great NFL career and is a very good quarterback right now. Yes. The other thing was this game was entertaining as hell.

47:11They put on a good show. It felt like a playoff game. Granted, it felt like, you know, a early playoff game like, you know, West. Why am I blanking on, you know, the early Texan slot that. Oh, West of us. West of it. Texans Bengals. My brain is shutting off after the last week. It felt like a West of us game because they were absolutely hitting. It was tight. You didn't know what was going to happen. There's a lot of great players on the field, by the way. Like we're watching Derek Stingley, Mike Evans matchup all night, which is going back and forth. And ultimately, I think Stingley got the better of that.

47:52Nine targets while Stingley was in coverage. Only three catches, 36 yards. There was a lot to like. There was an incredible couple drives to start the game before it settled down into the defensive struggle. So you saw different types of game. Hell, there was a great Kevin Harlan call on an absolute dime from CJ Stroud where Nico Collins tapped his toes. Let's listen to that call.

48:43Oh, I love Kevin Harlan on Westwood one. So the bad memories late in the game, you know, when he got a little panicked, which felt like they were going to get erased after Jalen Noel has that long field goal return. And then Nick Chubb has a moment where I wondered for a second, did the Bucs let Nick Chubb score there to get the ball back? I don't think so. I don't think Todd Bowles was asked about that, but I don't think so. But Nick Chubb gets the touchdown to cap that off, that set up, the Baker Mayfield winning drive. There was a lot of drama, a lot of fun in this game, and I will defend this game to the end.

49:24Nick Shook:Yeah, yeah, even though I just complained about the Texans for five minutes, I was very thoroughly entertained. Also, it was nice to see Nick Chubb rip off his longest run since week 17 of the 2022 season. That was good, 25 yards for that touchdown. That was good to see him. He's a great guy, glad to see him back in the end zone. yeah we were entertained this is going to be in my top five games of the year so far i think oh yeah that's bold that's maybe number five we're making that list on uh on nfl.com every week i appreciate that i appreciate you i do think uh we've gotten to the end here of the show i did want to update one injury situation from this game kalijah canty who i thought looked outstanding Kanting for the first five quarters of this season has a pectoral injury.

50:09Mike Garofalo of NFL Network says there is fear that it could be a season-ending injury, but they are going to get an MRI, get further tests to make sure there are different pectoral tears in terms of severity. And there's at least a chance as we're recording that it won't be the worst possible result. result but Canty to me was a really important part of them finally figuring out their four-man rush shook because I think even though the Texans offensive line was bad I think it's a little underrated how this group up front with Hassan Redick who had a lot of pressures tonight and then Vita Vea and an underrated player in Yaya Diaby with Canty that that was a really good group and unfortunately it looks like they're going to miss a key part of that yeah yeah and

51:00Nick Shook:I'm worried about their depth in replacing him. You saw in the replay on that play, as soon as he suffered the injury, one of his arms just kind of drops. Suddenly he's like, oh, I can't. Your whole, from at least my experience, anything in that area, when it happens and it's relatively severe, your whole arm kind of goes numb and that's what it looked like. So I hope for the best with him, but hopefully he gets good news. But if not, the Buccaneers are going to have to figure out how to replace him. Thanks to everyone who joined. Thanks to everyone who is listening to each and every show. We know we do a lot.

51:34It's right there in the name. We love doing it for you. So that's it for our Monday night recap show. There will be three more doubleheaders, Shook, this year. I didn't check. I think they might all be these, you know, stacked games. Seven and tens? Where they're staying up, like, very late. I will check that schedule. And so a little bit of a change. I believe this is the last year, though, of these doubleheaders. Roger Goodell doesn't like it. So enjoy. We've only got a few more of these left, but we will be here every single Monday night with you live on YouTube. And then, of course, in your podcast feed, we will also be back in the studio, Colleen Wolfe making her return to the Chris Wesley Podcast Studio.

52:20To see you next Tuesday, crew. Me, Colleen, and Jordan. We will go through all the injury situations. Oh, yeah. JJ McCarthy's out. And Daniel Daniels might be out. Joe Burrow's out for three months. We have a lot to talk about. It never ends on NFL Daily. We'll see you Tuesday.

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