Week 4 Picks from Dublin with The Ringer Fantasy Football Show

18:48145 of them come after contact, which doesn't make any sense. Gino has been turning over the ball a ton. And I do think what we saw to Caleb, albeit it was against Dallas, and Dallas is making everybody look good right now, I think Caleb is a momentum quarterback. I think he is somebody where once things start clicking, I think things will continue that way. I think he's going to have, like, a positive snowball effect to his game. And I think the Raiders' defense is a perfect follow-up to Dallas. And them getting points, I was a little surprised at that, to be honest. And I believe in Ben Johnson scheming up all these open wide receivers, and I think Caleb can hit them.

19:20I'm not necessarily the biggest Caleb guy in the world. However, I do think what I saw last week against Dallas is replicable against Vegas. I agree. I think Bears against a team that doesn't have a good pass rush is a great recipe because some of those plays last week with Caleb, he just had all the time in the world for someone to uncover. They ran an eight-second flea flicker. And that showed off. The highest flea flicker you've ever seen.

19:47Danny Heifetz:Slow motion. And he made a couple plays. There was one where the pressure got to him right away, where just his instincts, and that's where I agree with you, that he can be a confidence player when it starts rolling downhill. And I think the Raiders will give him that confidence because they don't have a pass rush. The Lions really didn't have that much of a pass rush in week two against him. Last week, same thing. I do want to ask you, Craig, though, because you were going to ask about Gentry. I thought on your show, what is your feeling about Gentry right now? Well, I think the vibes around him are actually pretty bad.

20:20And it's odd because I think when the ball is in his hands, he looks great. But I think when the ball is not in his hands and he's on the field, things are weird. I think the pass protection stuff with him is a little odd considering that was what we thought was a strength coming out of college, or at least he was capable. Well, they're not even using him in, like, the two-minute drill. No, Dylan – I still don't know how to say his name. Lowby. Lowby. Lowby. Lowby is playing in the two-minute drill against the guy that took six overall in the draft. I think that's very bizarre. Lawey didn't even play last year.

20:47I just think it's a bad sign that there's already – there's like every press conference now with him is about like, hey, Ryan Clark said this thing about you. Like, how do you feel about that? And he's like, well, I'm not trying to like listen to anybody in the media. I'm just trying to like focus on my game. And they're not giving him that many touches. I think as a talent on the field, he's great. And I think it's just a sign generally that like if you're a bad team and you have a bad offensive line, you should not be drafting a running back. They're a terrible offensive line. I'm with you. He made a couple people miss last week.

21:14He broke yards after contract. He's awesome with the ball in his hand. He's a little bit, and I heard you guys talking about this with Derrick Henry, that if he doesn't get a good runway, he'll kind of stop his feet and then get toppled over. What did you guys get? Like the Saddam. Derrick Henry getting tackled at the line of scrimmage

21:34Danny Heifetz:looks like the statue of Saddam falling over. If he gets hit before the line of scrimmage, he just topples his statue in his square. It's like his ankles are tied. He's just falling over. completely different body type, but I think Jenty has a little bit of that too and they are right now, along with the Bengals. I thought you meant body type of Saddam. No, I mean... Actually, he was low to the ground and kind of like thick in the way. I think he would be a decent running back. Saddam Hussein. It's hard to find in the home. Jenty's vision's been like a little off here and there where there has been a cutback lane to hit.

22:12But last week, actually, I thought he ran well and had a good couple cutback. So I'm with you. Saddam was 6 '2". Oh, he was a unit. Get his name out of your mouth. Here's one thing that I want to say about. We got a 40 time? We were talking about vibes. Greg's like, I'm going to get fired. The Guinness is showing off here. One and a half. Guinness is that's all it takes. We were talking about vibes in the last game. This game, I think the Raiders vibes, after having the best offseason of any team, like in terms of vibes, like raising the floor. We got adults in charge now. Like they got Jenty.

22:44They have this exciting new thing. It feels weird. The vibes are atrocious right now. And you know who the scapegoat is right now? Tom Brady. Brennan Carroll. Pete Carroll's son. Why? Who is the offensive line coach. And there's no. That is. The fans are turning on Brennan. Honestly, that's fair because they have almost the exact same offensive line as the previous two seasons, especially last year. And they played like they punched above their weight last year where everyone was like, oh, wow, they're greater than the sum of their parts offensive line. Now it's like Colton Miller and four negatives.

23:16So I'm with it. And they moved guys around off their original positions to try and find the best five. And so now there is no yardage available for Ashley Jardim. I think Geno's played pretty well except for that Chargers game, which was his worst start since getting the starting job in Seattle. I know not many people watch that Washington game, but he was under siege. And actually, I thought played pretty well overall.

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27:49and a half i think the gap between the packers and this cowboys team without cd lamb and the two offensive linemen is as big as bill saints like i'm not saying the line needs to be that big because tack prescott's involved and like but it could be double digit points and i still would be into that like if you wanted to move the line like i feel like the over under on packers scoring is 35. This was going to be my pick, too. I can come up with another one, but I like this one a lot, too. The Packers have one of the best defense. They have the number one rated defense in DVOA, and they're good on offense.

28:30They are just such a complete team. There was a reason people were talking about them before this last week against the Browns where they kind of collapsed as potentially going undefeated, Super Bowl-type team. The vibes are incredible. They're very good on both sides of the ball. They're the type of team that can beat you in so many different ways, to um whether it's jordan love whether it's the pass rush whether it's you know the run game i think it all makes sense and with a very injured pack uh cowboys team that's an easy pick i think there's a lot of things in retrospect that look really good now for green bay like now that win against detroit everybody after that game was like well detroit's a different team now maybe they're not as good now that we've seen detroit rebound a little bit and we're actually like oh detroit might be one of the best teams in the nfc again packers winning 27 13 in that game looks really good and even I mean this loss to the Browns I agree with you Greg that it's a perfect timing for the for the Packers to then come in and kick the out of the Cowboys in this game terrible luck for the Cowboys to face the Packers after this loss but also the Browns defense once when we look back on the season in retrospect that 10-13 loss we're going to say the Browns defense actually might be one of the best defense in the league again so I think you can look at every game the Packers have played this season and they look even better now even though it's

29:36Danny Heifetz:only been three weeks I mean also when was the last time the Packers played it was less than the Cowboys gave the Packers a competitive game. That's fair. Was it the Dez Coddick game? That was like 10 years ago. I mean, number one, I don't know if we even want to go into the analogy we have for the Cowboys defense. I feel like this is a family-friendly show. Yeah, yeah. But. The Mario Kart rainbow strip, perhaps. The Mario, yeah. That's kid-friendly. Yeah. You ever play Mario Kart? The rainbow turbo strip? You hit that, you go 10 times as fast. That is the Cowboys defense this year for other offenses.

30:05Danny Heifetz:They have no pass rush and they have no cornerbacks. That's a pretty bad combo. As we just said on our show, Russell Wilson threw for 454 yards, brought him to overtime, and then got benched. Second most of his career. Like Caleb Williams just had the best game of his career against Matt Eberflus, the Cowboys. He's a defensive coordinator. Who should have known Caleb better than anyone? They have no cornerbacks. I don't care if Trevon Diggs and Duran Planned end up playing in this game. They're not healthy. The Cowboys literally are running out of cornerbacks. They have no pass rushers. Who are the Cowboys' best three players in this game?

30:30Danny Heifetz:Dak Prescott? Tyler Smith? Who's playing in this game? George Pickens. who this week it's like, it's George Pickens time. We were Pickens. Exactly. No, I think this is smart. It's that every week. If you ask George Pickens, hey, you could lose by 20, but you have 180 yards and two touchdowns, or you win by a point and don't catch a pass, what happens? What does he pick? I think it's obvious. Guaranteed. I think Dak is top five quarterbacks in the league right now. So I am fascinated to see that matchup. Jeff Halfley is very creative, and I think they're going to come up with special ways to get Micah Parsons in one-on-one situations with some of these backups on the inside.

31:12Which one? There's multiple. Right, like Cooper Beebe's out and Tyler Booker's out. And so Tack Prescott's one of the few quarterbacks, even shorthanded, that I think could make this entertaining to the point that it's 40 to 25. But I just think on the other side, they're just not going to be able to keep up ultimately.

31:30Danny Heifetz:Green Bay, first two weeks of the season, small sample, but they were pushing the ball downfield as much as anyone, and they didn't do that against the Browns. but the Cowboys defense is allowing nine yards per attempt. First down needs 10. They're allowing nine yards. Is that right? It can't be overstated that Russell Wilson threw for 450 yards against the Cowboys the second most of his career, and then seven days later was benched. That bought him one week. Hit the goalpost twice in a row. That's the ultimate sign of how bad this Cowboys defense is. Also, the matchup of LeFleur versus Eberflus, like Bears fans and Packers fans can remember very well.

32:04And Matt Eberfluss is just running out the same old stuff. Like, you can give him, like, the really expensive shave and the new haircut, but, like, he's still running out that, like, 1995 defense.

32:15Danny Heifetz:Well, it's the same problem as the last Cowboys defensive coordinator, Mike Zimmer, who was running things that stopped working three years earlier. He brought them back three years later. It's the theme of the Cowboys. Their ideas are from 30 years ago. Jerry Jones, older than Joe Biden. It's, like, that logic all the way down. I'm just saying, like, everyone is out of date with the ideas. I'm really big on the Packers. We are going to do a power rank-like segment on tomorrow's show with Michael McQuaid of Pro Football Ireland. And look, the Packers are going to be very high there. Okay, so we all agree on the Packers.

32:47DK, I'm making you pivot now. Wait, so can we talk about the game that's happening in Ireland? Yeah, that's good. It's a good idea. I'm going to go against my two colleagues here. We actually picked the Steelers when we do our picks in this game, but I want to pick the Vikings in this one. I think the – so what is the line? Two and a half. It's up to two and a half. Vikings are giving two and a half. The public are on the Vikings as well. I just think the Vikings' defense is one of the best defenses in the NFL. Number two in defensive DVOA, they have an excellent pass rush. As you know, Brian Flores likes to mix things up in the blitz packages.

33:21They're blitzing a ton, just making lives difficult for opposing quarterbacks. And we have on recent history of him doing that against Aaron Rodgers. So I think this is going to be an ugly game, a back-and-forth game, lots of turnovers. But ultimately, I think the Vikings' defense is going to be the difference.

33:38Danny Heifetz:It makes sense on paper. I mean, at the end of the day, the Vikings are coming off a 48-10 win. But I just overall – in theory, it's like the Steelers, all they do is let teams move the ball on them. But I'm like, at the end of the day, I don't think in a game where everyone's going to Europe, Carson Wentz is going to move the ball on the Steelers' defense consistently. And it's funny because it's cliche, but it's true. The Mike Tomlin games, these ugly, muck-em-up games, kind of like how the Steelers don't play normal games. I don't think the Aaron Rodgers-Tomlin teams play normal games. And I do think this is going to be close in the fourth quarter, and it's going to be Carson Wentz versus Aaron Rodgers.

34:07And Carson Wentz versus T.J. Watt and Nate Herbig and Cam Hayward. The Steelers have playmakers. And you got Harmon back. They should get better on defense, and they showed signs last week. And don't forget, this game is 80 % to 90 % Steelers fans. The people in the actual stadium. They're going to play renegade. People are going to go crazy. Okay, so to me it feels a little bit like one of those games where a few big momentum-shifting defensive plays or special teams plays are going to be like... Like hypothetically, Andrew Van Ginkle

34:35Danny Heifetz:jumping a screen for a pick-six? Things like that. And I have more faith in the Vikings' defense to do that. I can imagine Carson Wentz on one play, like seeing his first reads not open. Herbig is screaming around the left side. So he panics. He starts running the other way. And like Cam Hayward just blasts him. The ball flies up. And they like return it for like a fumble return by Patrick Queen, and that's the big play. Because my head agrees with you, but there is something in the air here. You've got Dan Rooney looking down on him, the ambassador. You're not going to let the Steelers lose. Can I just make one caveat?

35:12If Carson Wentz tries to throw a pass with his left hand, the bet's off. We need a cash-out option.

35:19Danny Heifetz:To your point, I think this is a game that not only the Steelers are losing at halftime, I think they're losing through three quarters. Coaching, I think, will dominate for three quarters. The fourth quarter, it's going to be the players. Rodgers versus Wentz. Rodgers and Watt versus Wentz. And I'm like, in the fourth quarter in that moment, as long as it's a one-score game, I just think they're going to pull it out. How much were you rooting for Rodgers to stay healthy last week? Because, my Lord, if he had gotten hurt, Wentz versus Rudolph. And we were here. Oh, man. It's a good call. I was torn because it was the Patriots going against them.

35:46But I also wanted, like, the 2-1 matchup versus 2-1. It would have been Mason Rudolph versus Carson Wentz, which just like is not fun. Not fun. We don't want to send an eight hour flight to watch Mason Rudolph. Good Lord. All right. I'm with you on that one. All right. Let's wrap my picks. So Cynthia's third pick, by the way, the Washington commanders, who we were both on last week and they did wind up covering. She has them as a road favorite in Atlanta. It's a one and a half point favorite. Their defense has been a lot better this year. I think it slipped a little under the radar. It has been against bad opponents, but you got like Dorrance Armstrong leading the league in pressures and their team, I think, leading the league in pressure rate.

36:30And it's going up against the Falcons that has a lot of problems. My final pick, though, is a little spicier. I like the Jags plus three and a half. Yeah. In San Francisco, I actually kind of like them to go and just win this game straight up. You like their defense a lot, right? Into that. Yeah. Yeah, they have really good players. And Campanile, you didn't know anything about him. He's the defensive coordinator coming into this. But he came from Green Bay. And they're just in that new world where they're showing all the disguises. And it seems like it's working. And Trayvon Walker is a lot better than he used to be.

37:05And Heinz Allen is really good. And Jordan Lewis is like another ex-cowboy defender that's playing much better away. Dorrance Armstrong is another one that I just mentioned. Like, he's playing well. I just think that 49ers have a lot of injuries. and they've been skating by a little bit with these lucky games. Trayvon Walker working out is funny. I feel like he was considered such a bust for so long. Well, I think it's just a comparison. It's not like he's been bad. He just, Aiden Hutchinson, it was the choice between him and Aiden Hutchinson, right? And Hutchinson. And that still looks bad, but if Walker was the seventh pick in the draft, he'd be like, great.

37:38Right. He's a plus starter.

37:39Danny Heifetz:Totally. Expectations minus reality. He's like Andrew Wiggins. It's like what Andrew Wiggins worked out is he's actually like a very solid role player, but he was pegged as like Canadian Michael Jordan. And, you know, he obviously wasn't that. To your point about the coordinator thing, I don't know if you feel this way. I think one of the hardest parts of the job is not just offense, but defense trying to figure out which coordinators are going to work out new spots because you can find the system, but it's not just bringing a system. It's are you able to coach it and teach it to the players? Like that's completely different than just knowing a system yourself.

38:06Danny Heifetz:And you don't know, how do you know if someone's a good teacher or not? It's just hard to figure out, but you're right. Like the Jags defense, there is a lot of talent on that, that has been used poorly. So I do think that raising the floor. And again, whatever the quarterback situation ends up being for the Niners this week, they have a lot of holes, too. It sounds like it's Purdy. As we're taping this, hopefully Pearsall gets back at practice. He finished out last week's game, so I would think he'd be okay. And they get a couple players back. Demarcus Robinson is off suspension. But on defense, they're a little banged up there.

38:38And in general, I just feel like three and a half points is what does it. They call the extra half point the hook. And, like, that does hook me. I think they've been slightly better. If you look at overall team DVOA, this is actually a really good game. It's the number nine team in the league, the 49ers, versus the number 10 team in the league. And that's what the Jaguars have looked like to my eye. Like, they kind of look like a six seed to me. And Trevor Lawrence is still missing a lot of throws, and they're figuring out Hunter, but they looked well coached. We just talked about, like, the Raiders and Brendan Carroll.

39:08Like, their offensive line is moving people. They're protecting Lawrence. Like, the plays seem like they make sense to me. Devin Lloyd is, like, playing really well. I just kind of like them.

39:17Danny Heifetz:What do you make of Lawrence and Brian Thomas? That's annoying. Well, yeah, because I was going to say, from a fantasy point of view, which is, like, what we focus on primarily, it's like the Jags have been a mess just from a fantasy point of view. Brian Thomas, one of the biggest disappointments so far this year. If you have to create the blame pie chart for Brian Thomas, who absorbs most of the responsibility? It seems like it's mostly Brian Thomas, but maybe them, Jordan Rodrigue talked about it on our show this week, a little bit Liam Cohen trying to fit him into some prototype that he's not, you know, like this outside, like Cooper Cup type Robert Woods receiver.

39:57Like that's not who he is, and maybe he's just like thinking too much. But going back to training camp, apparently he was having all these drops and all these struggles. and him being in his... It's kind of like the yips or something. But he's open. Yeah. And like, Deami Brown's open, although he might be hurt for this game. Like, Brenton Strange is good. Like, Parker Washington's open. Parker Washington is doing stuff, yeah.

40:18Danny Heifetz:I had an intrusive thought last week. I was like, just watching the game, I'm like, Parker Washington's the best receiver on this team. He looked good last year, too. I don't believe that, but he thought it. So I am buying the Jaguars. The three and a half points is enough. We did every one, right? We did every pick. We got through all of Cynthia's picks. Again, she has the Jets and the Packers. Jets plus 2.5. I am the Packers minus 7 along with Cynthia, so we agree there. We have the same picks. She has the Commanders minus 1.5. I also threw in the Jaguars plus 3.5. DK, you went with the Vikings.

40:51I like that our listeners are just getting free picks. This feels like you ever listen to those shows on the radio on, like, 830 in the morning on, like, 8. They're still on in L.A., like, when I'm on my way to work, like, on AM Ready, where they're like, I'll give you one pick now, and you call 1-800-9. Who is paying for what they're calling the 1-800 line for the other good picks, but the free picks are still out. Where do you think I got my Chargers pick? I just mean you could have picked any other game. Our real picks. That's what the guy on the phone said. Our real picks are on our Patreon, so if you want to subscribe to that, you can hear our actual picks.

41:26Yes, listen to the Ringer fantasy football show. It's not just fantasy football. In the offseason, it's a lot of draft. But even during the season, it's very much not just fantasy football. They have some of the best chemistry. Danny is an outstanding host. Just, like, the vibes are excellent. Very good hang. Very good listen. Check it out. And, yeah, we're going to have some fun out in the city. Hopefully. I don't know. We'll see you before the game. Of course they're coming to us to the Book of Kells. That's right. We are going to the Book of Kells on Saturday afternoon. Oh, you double booked.

42:02You forgot about that. No, no, I didn't. Double booked of Kelsus. Oh. Oh, wow. I didn't know anything about this, but I am a dork and would have probably spent my Saturday anyways, like, walking around Dublin and going to, like, old bookstores. And this is, like.

42:16Danny Heifetz:I was like, do you want to do any tourist stuff with us? You were like, no. And I was like, it's an old book. He was like, sign me up. Hold on. This book is so old. It's so old. How old is it? Yeah. It's like. This thing's 1 ,000 years old. It's like 1 ,500 years old. 800. Something like that. 800. A.D. AD. So we're going to do that. We're going to finish these Guinnesses in front of me, and you will hear me next in the feed. We have an extra show this week. I mentioned it earlier. It's Michael McQuaid from the Pro Football Ireland. He is like the Rich Eisen of Ireland. He will love this compliment.

42:51He is just dominating all of his competitors and just, frankly, squashing them out as he tries to just become an international superstar. So he's on the show. We're going to talk about football interest in Ireland. We're going to do a little Power Bowl. We'll talk about this game. That's going to come up, a bonus show on Saturday. It's just been a joy to have you guys on. We will see you on Saturday on NFL Daily.

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