Wild Card Sunday Recap: Josh Allen's Road Win, Patriots Defense Stands Tall and 49ers Get Seahawks Rematch

24:37Not at all. Not at all. It wasn't even a decision.

24:40Nick Shook:I mean, not even a close decision. It was all go for it on all the metrics. And, you know, with where you're at down there that low, you got to go for it. I know you're sick of the models that you believe don't even do anything. They just say go. Your thoughts, Patrick? Yeah, it's just a big folder with a green construction paper that says go on it. I think Liam Cohen, who's calling the plays, who's looking at the play that he wants to call, and he's the person who makes the decision. Yeah, like I'm good with that decision. It's really a patch of turf that ultimately determines whether Trevor Lawrence ultimately gets that first down, as well as the rule about the quarterback going headfirst, giving yourself up so he doesn't even need to be down by contact in that situation.

25:27No, I don't mind that go. I think the Jags, you know, they lost the turnover battle, but they had a higher success rate. They almost doubled them up rushing the ball. They outgained them. The success rate was 51.9. It was a good offense performance by the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's just the nature of the game and the circumstances produced a loss. Yeah, there were there were seven trips to the red zone, and that was the only one that didn't result in a touchdown. Every time these two teams got down there, they capitalized. And that's what I mean. There was great defense on other sides of the field and they were hitting.

26:01I mean, this was I love I love this game to me. This was one of the best games of the entire season. Like it just high level stuff from both sides. And they were hitting. I know that makes Nick Shook happy watching this game.

26:13Nick Shook:Oh, of course. I love it when football players get to the playoffs and just turn it up to 11. It's like, it's almost like in the NBA when they're like, Oh, suddenly we play defense, except in football, you have to play defensively hard every week. It's just, it seems like it's a higher intensity in the playoffs. But I also agree with you, Patrick has nothing to do with the models for me. You go for it down there because it's an extra, it's a bonus possession that you earned because of a turnover on a kick return. So that's already in your pocket, right? Like, Oh, well we, we weren't supposed to be here anyway.

26:36Nick Shook:So why not try to maximize it? And the other thing is when you get to the playoffs, why would you ever go away from your identity? You do what got you there. It was a good call. Trevor Lawrence, career-high rushing touchdowns this year. Good call, slipped up a little bit short of the line to gain. If he converts that, maybe they score. Maybe we're talking about something different. We're not rehashing this at all. I'm totally fine with it. Stick with what got you there. And if you lose the game because of it, so be it. And again, that was Shaq Thompson just kind of touching Lawrence there. I don't know if that made the difference of it, but it is crazy.

27:08Like, we'll get into the Bills all week, certainly. Like, if this is the team that gets them to the Super Bowl, it would be remarkable because, you know, they got, I don't know who's, who's that guy Hancock back there. I like they got some players.

27:22Nick Shook:Show some respect to Ohio state's Jordan Hancock, Jordan Hancock. They they're just sticking it together. They got Brandon cooks who, who he heard Sean McDermott loving up Jacoby Myers during the week and who turned out to be the free agent pickup or rather the in season pickup that made the difference in this game. It was our guy. Brandon being justified. It was our guy, Brandon cook. before we move on from this game, just a couple other little notes. The Bills in the last two years, this means something to me, I think, have ended the Jaguars' eight-game winning streak, the Chiefs' nine-game winning streak a year ago, the Lions' 10-game winning streak a year ago, and the Patriots' 11-game winning streak this season.

28:06I mean, I don't know what that means, but just they're streak stoppers, and it means something. I feel for Jaguars fans. I do think for these teams that haven't been to the Super Bowl, it's interesting in the AFC. Maybe this is just the fan side of me. There's something about how wide open this AFC is that I really feel five or six teams have such a good chance to actually make it that normally you just feel like, okay, this is a building season. It was a great moment for the Jaguars, certainly. But I do think it was a missed opportunity too because if the ball just bounces a little different today or they make one or two more plays.

28:42There's absolutely a world where we're seeing Trevor Lawrence out there on Super Bowl opening night, taking questions or winning the Super Bowl. I really think they were that good of a team this year, which is why, you know, I just think it's a painful, you know, loss, even if they played pretty well today's show.

28:57Nick Shook:It's also like Dan Campbell said when they lost the NFC Championship game to the 49ers a few years ago. It's hard to get back here. And I know it's only wildcard weekend and I do think that they will be back. And this is the first step in Liam Cohen's first year, but it's really hard to get back there even to wildcard weekend, because you got to stay healthy. You got to hit your stride at the right time. And they were hitting their stride at the right time. This was the team in the AFC that I felt the most confident in because of the way that they looked over the last month and a half. So it's disheartening as, as a, just a ball enjoyer, a football enjoyer to see the Jaguars end like this, but I'm not a fan of moral victories, but Jaguar fans can feel so much better about where their team is now than where they were even just a year ago.

29:36Nick Shook:The future remains bright. Yeah, you know, history and the way that we look at the playoffs and the postseason, you know, they will be told that the Miles Jack not being down team, the Saxonville team, because they made it farther, was better than this team. I think this was the better Jacksonville Jaguars team. It's just the circumstances led to a loss. And yeah, you're going to get the player you traded up for in the top five back. I believe he will primarily play corner next year because I believe he's the best cornerback on the team. And that's what they needed. yeah that's a great call they they could have used him today i was surprised i'm always fascinated by patrick's emotions because he's an intellectual guy he doesn't carry his his emotions on his sleeves what and and uh you said that this one hurt you more than you expected yeah because they're a good team they've been so good and i know that the way that we talk about uh football teams and all this stuff and that's why i kind of lamented at the top of the show everybody lost is bad yeah you don't deserve to have any good memories from the team this was a good football team and it's rough for the folks in Jacksonville.

30:36You know, they steal home games from them every single year. They deserve this team to be better. They're not even going to play home games in a couple years. They go to Orlando for a year. Don't you have affection, though, for our great producer, Eric Roberts? Yeah. And all the Bills fans out there. Of course. Congrats, Eric. How was your experience here watching this? It was great. I had the family over.

30:55Nick Shook:Got a nice time slot for me. So living room full of Roberts. Enjoyed the day. Came into work happy and on to the next one. Oh, yeah. That was Josh Allen in the locker room, too, after he's like, this one means, like, all it means is we got the right to play another one. I was fired up. And I was... They don't even enjoy it. Folks in Jacksonville feel pretty great if they got to win. I know. And I was looking at that locker room, and I was like, yeah, they do need a new stadium because, like, it was like, you couldn't even have, like, half the team in one area of the locker room. Like, everyone's just in, like, a hallway, basically.

31:27Nick Shook:You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised the state of some of the visiting locker rooms. Some of the old ones, sure. So, you know, Patrick, I like the sentiment there. And that generosity of spirit was actually shared by a member of the media in Jacksonville today. Let's let's wrap this game just listening to a comment slash question to Liam Cohen. How you doing today? Lynn Jones, Jacksonville Free Press News. I just want to tell you, congratulations on your success, young man. You hold your head up, all right? You guys have had a most magnificent season. You did a great job out there today. So you just hold your head up, okay?

32:04And ladies and gentlemen, Duval, you the one, all right? Keep it going. We got another season, okay? Take care and much continued success to you and the entire team. Thank you, man. I love how Liam Cohen meets her in the eyes and he's emotional and he appreciates that. in the moment. And I saw that right away and I was like, haven't seen that before. That was different. And it's like a nice way to go out on the game. And then because it's 2026, it became surprisingly enough to me like one of the biggest stories on social media throughout the day, which is a reminder like don't stay on social media because it's like every super strident serious journalist who said that was an abomination to everything that the press room should be about.

32:50It's like, let's calm down here. But also, you know, maybe the other side of things saying, like, this was such a beautiful, just let the moments happen. We don't have to comment on everything. I will say, on Blue Sky, I did not see any of that criticism. That may have been on the site that's currently distributing non-consensual revenge, you know. I hear you. Which may skew towards people who might not necessarily like that particular attitude from the person that asked the question. That might not argue in good faith. Look, when he has a fair point, you got to recognize it. Let's take a break from this game, one of the games of the year.

33:28Let's come back with one of the games that wasn't one of the games of the year. It was a Patriots victory. You will hear Bob Sochi on the other side of this break.

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38:20That was one of 11 quarterback hits on Justin Herber, as you heard there, from Sochi and Scott Zolak on WBZ. One of six sacks by the Patriots. New England wins a game 16-3 that was reminiscent of their last playoff victory as a franchise in the Super Bowl, 13-3 over the Rams. By the time Mike Vrabel got bloodied up at the end of the game because Milton Williams headbutted him on the sidelines, I was kind of thinking Mike Vrabel loves this more than anything, Shook. It was a game that, a season really, where Drake May and the offense has carried this team. And I think in terms of building up where they're going to go just this season and maybe in the future, I think he loves seeing his defense come out and just have a dominating performance like that.

39:10Nick Shook:let the record reflect that on this day january 11th 2026 mike vrabel was officially canonized as the patron saint of football guys for that moment right there getting bloodied by his own guy and just diving completely in then wearing the bloody lip all the way to midfield to shake jim harbaugh's hand at the end of a triumphant and dominant defensive performance for all the love that we give the new england patriots and drake may the favorites win mvp which he did make a couple of plays more than a couple of plays that were deserving of that recognition tonight. Today, this game in prime time was all about Vrabel's defense and the Patriots doing what they used to do with Bill Belichick back when I was in middle school, dominating a game on the defensive side of the middle school.

39:54And Mike Vrabel contains multitudes because while he's the same, yes, I'm bleeding my own blood. And the postgame quote was we talked about being willing to spill blood out there and Milton took that to heart. And so that's Mike Vrabel, consummate football guy but he's also cerebral clock management mike vrabel where the chargers wanted to you know get the ball up and down the field but they kept wanting to substitute so he's sitting in full line change raining clock as much as he possibly he was literally telling the guys to slow down as they were running off the field and so like get you a coach who can do both and mike vrabel clearly like the game plan was spectacular on the other side uh the the greg roman situation has reached the point, the same point that we've been at for years, and perhaps Jim Harbaugh will recognize that, Greg.

40:41I think it could be the end of watching Greg Roman in major games. It just feels like he's been such a massive part of our lives as football fans for a while because those Harbaugh teams with Kaepernick and Alex Smith were so exciting, and then the Lamar Jackson teams, obviously, now Herbert. He's just been associated with these teams that are right in the center of the NFL, and when I've gone to Chargers games, like that Eagles one stands out in this game too. There's nobody open. There's no formational diversity when you know the man coverage is coming shook and the blitz was insane. The Patriots are not a heavy blitz team in general, but they were not getting home with four early in this game and they sent the house.

41:27They had eight blitzes of six or more in this game. They had another zero blitz with seven, and they blitzed almost half the snaps, which was not really their style this year. But they basically realized early, oh, we can blitz. They're not going to communicate well to protect Herbert, and they're not going to get anyone open because they're not running any man beaters. It was great performance by the defense, but also you want to see some adjustments by the Chargers in their coaches.

41:57Nick Shook:Yeah, absolutely. What, what the timing of those blitzes, which were just repeated in the fourth quarter of this game, it kind of signaled two things to us, the immense respect for Justin Herbert and the fact that they didn't do it early because they were worried about him capitalizing on having less men in coverage. And also the immense lack of respect for the chargers ability to adjust and the ability to pick up any stunts. I have not seen an offensive line get beaten that badly by stunts and by free rushers in a playoff game in a long time. And we shouldn't be surprised. This is a chargers line that has had a billion different combinations.

42:27Nick Shook:They don't have their starting tackles. We can acknowledge all of that. It's not an excuse, but it is reality. It was surprising to me that it took the Patriots that long to then capitalize on it. But I think at that point they realized, oh, you know what? Like they're not going to make us pay. Look at what they're doing here going no huddle. They're taking four yard games. There's less than four minutes left in the game. This is as fast as they can go. And we're also successfully slowing them down by substituting guys. So it was just a clear advantage. I think on the part of the Patriots coaching staff that they knew they had the Chargers exactly where they wanted them.

42:56Nick Shook:and again speaking about Greg Roman it's so it would be so perfect if this was his last moment in a big game that his quarterback finishes as his leading rusher 10 carries for 57 yards for Justin Herbert because there is nothing doing on the ground game for the Chargers Omarian Hampton only has a couple of snaps before his ankle injury is clearly holding him back Kamani Vidal does the best he can but we see a limited Chargers offense the same Chargers offense that was limited throughout most of this season and they had to turn games into rock fights this was a rock fight They just forgot to bring rocks to the fight.

43:25Yeah, their defense, I think, played an excellent game. And we'll get to that. But you mentioned the running game. Yeah, they have 30 rushing yards outside of Herbert. They only had 120 net passing yards and under three and a half yards per play throwing the ball. And I think Herbert missed some throws. There was a couple, we were watching the game together, times in the game where I thought Herbert maybe had a check down on like a couple third downs where he didn't necessarily take it. He went for bigger plays. So that's on him. And then I don't know if it's him not protecting himself or him just needing to make a play or the offensive line's playing terribly or all of the above.

44:06But man, he took some hits, including a strip sack in the early portions of the fourth quarter that really felt kind of like when this game ended. Burberry again for the shotgun. Trips to the wide side right. He drops back. He stands in. He's pressured. He's hit. He stays at his feet. Running right. And then he goes down. Balls lose. Patriots. Happens. Happens with a recovery. Yes. Unbelievable. What this defense has been able to do. Holy crap.

44:40That needs to be on the soundboard. Yeah. We should have led with that one. That's a banger. That's unreal. But the circumstances on that sack, You go back and look, they come up in trips. Eventually, when Herbert hits the top of his drop, I'm not being hyperbolic here, between Keenan Allen and Ladd McConkie, they are two yards away from each other. They are immediately next to each other. One defender is occupying two Chargers receivers, so Herbo comes off of that. By the time he comes off of that, there's nothing for him to do, to try to escape and make the play, and it's this constant balance where you talk about him taking the four-yard gains.

45:21The four-yard gains were the only option on some of these plays down the stretch where it's just you would like to give the quarterback some options. You would like to protect him. The Chargers were incapable of doing any of that. And I know Rashad Slater and Joe Alt are great players. I don't know that having them on the field tonight would have necessarily changed so much of the circumstances for Justin Herbert. Clearly it would have helped. But considering that this is the product for the Chargers, I don't know what they could have done. In two playoff games, they've scored a total of one touchdown on 22 offensive possessions, been outscored.

45:55You know, if you're combining those two games, 48 to 15. And, you know, it just was tough to watch. You sent out the dots of the final fourth down play, too, where it's just like every Chargers receiver is somehow double covered, even though there's two or three guys coming three through the offensive line. It's crazy. but also give credit to the Patriots. I thought Christian Gonzalez, his best game of the season, five targets his way, zero catches. I don't think he's been at his very, very best this year. He was awesome in this game. Carlton Davis with some big sacks. Christian Ellis at linebacker was the spy all game, and I thought played really well.

46:31Marcus Jones, you know, they are one of the best tackling teams, if not the best tackling teams in the NFL, and I've been down on the Patriots defense all season. That's one thing that they do really well. They don't allow yak. They don't allow, you know, run after contact either. They have the fewest missed tackles in the league. And you really saw that they were swarming tonight. Let's talk a little bit about the Patriots on offense. Because, look, the numbers will say that they moved the ball all game. Like, did they get over 400 yards? No, not quite. Not a ton of possessions. But, you know, they get close to 400 yards.

47:04They moved the ball all game. But they couldn't capitalize. uh nick what what did you see out of drake may in his first playoff game um a mix uh there were

47:15Nick Shook:moments where he took off for positive gains with his legs which is what we've seen him do uh in the second half i thought he got more comfortable with pocket navigation and making plays he obviously had the biggest play of the game to give them their only touchdown of the game um but early on it felt like the pressure of the moment was maybe a little too big for him a little bit of like jalen hurts to him where he was almost trying to make the perfect play. And you could just see like this, not the speed, but just like the gravity of the moment. He had to settle in, but he did settle in and he was able to keep them going.

47:44Nick Shook:Uh, the, the run right before halftime was obviously just like vintage him. I can't, I don't, can we say vintage about a guy in his second year? Cause I'm going to classic Drake may where he's just running down the middle of the field untouched to get them into field goal range. Uh, so overall we give him a good grade and he finished very strong. He looked good in the second half, just not one of his best games, but that's perfectly fine. You're in a playoff game in which your defense is playing fantastically, you don't really have to do that much. And when the time came for him to do the most important things he did.

48:10Yeah. He, he ends up running for 66 yards. Ramondre was very efficient with 53 yards on, on the ground. They ran it pretty well. They didn't run it that often in the game, which surprised me. I think if may has a bugaboo this year, it's, it's the sack fumble. Sometimes he's a lot of times he's recovered them. Uh, but in this game, you know, He has one in the fourth quarter where he gets absolutely blasted. There's another one where Will Campbell lets your guy, Adafe Owe, beat him. And that one I don't really put on May too much. He holds on the ball a little long, but Campbell also gets beat behind him.

48:47And so three turnovers is not ideal. The first one is on a tipped interception. All of them you can kind of find context for, but otherwise there were a lot of dots in this game. And you give the Chargers defense credit. Like, I think Jesse Minner had a game winning plan and a game winning performance. Unfortunately, you know, there's other aspects to the game and their great defense this year was kind of for not. Yeah. And you really didn't have to. Clearly, the Patriots could have protected the ball a little bit better, but they didn't necessarily need all the punching power, considering the performance the defense was putting up there.

49:21And Drake May is going to take some sex. Yeah, fair. A guy that takes shots down the field like that is going to give up some opportunities for the defense. But in terms of the way that he played, I think in the way that the Chargers approached this game, a solid game by Drake May where the doubters are going to lean in and be like, oh, look, we told you something. Like, come on. In the doubters, by that, you mean MJD coming by. He just walked by. Oh, my God. You know, he goes by me in the newsroom. This is your MVP. This is your MVP. It's like, OK. Okay, three turnovers, sure, but did average over nine yards per attempt and was the game's leading rusher.

50:03And in a lot of moments that I thought didn't make our highlight reel, he was money. There was a third and 10 coming off his own goal line where he fires one into Hunter Henry to get that touchdown drive going. And that's like a very Drake-made type of throw. There was a fourth down play before they get the field goal after, you know, they run a very curious trick play on third down. And he hits Kyle Williams on the sideline, trusting his rookie to make a play, trusting, you know, their fullback Jack Westover to make a play. Ashton Chisholm made a play in this game. And these were all great balls, a deep ball to Kayshawn Booty.

50:41So there were a lot of good moments. And there was the nice touchdown to Hunter Henry. Now, the worst throw May had all game was the miss to Austin Hooper. They could have won, you know, kind of put this game away a little earlier, but they settled for a field goal there. But again, he sees one of his tight ends streaking open late, and he hits it. White wing, the extra tight end out there with a play fake. Drake on a deep drop, slides left, throws it to the end zone. Butterhill, he makes the catch. He's in the end. New pylon. Touchdown, Patriots. That's what I'm talking about. Look at this place.

51:16They're going to focus. Here it's a left.

51:29We get we get another week of that, Chuck. They will be hosting either the Texans or the Steelers. Oh, look at this. What's happening? Welcome to Scott Zolak's Club of Euphoria.

51:40Nick Shook:In which you can't comprehend that Gillette Stadium is packed with so many raucous Patriots fans. That was the throw of the game, folks. Drake Mays dropping it in the bucket to Hunter Henry right over the defender. That's the play that you want to look for in the highlight reel when he becomes NFL MVP. And we're going to celebrate it with some crazy lights for those of you not watching on YouTube. I mean, people don't know. Shook is a man who can do many things. He can write. He can podcast about F1. And he can Twitch stream. And what, these are your Madden lights when you score a touchdown in Madden?

52:14Nick Shook:Yeah, these are big play lights. These are anytime you get a big play. It could be a turnover block field goal. Pick six when you jump a bubble for a touchdown. Any of those moments. Why are you holding out? Why are you holding out on who's, you know. Back here. I just brought it back right now. Let's go. Okay. Okay. Do you think he strikes Bob on those situations? Scott Zolak? There's so many arm punches. So many shoulder punches. He's telling Bob to look at this place like we're listening on the radio, Scott. You're telling Bob? the crowds I mean I guess it can't be like a surprise but it has been a trend I think for some of these crowds in the playoffs that haven't had a lot of home playoff football in a minute the Jacksonville crowd was awesome the Carolina crowd was absolutely incredible and I know people be like wow wow the Patriots haven't but you know it's still been what seven years since a playoff win they were happy to have another home game in Foxborough and they were ready to go I did it.

53:15They did it. They overcame Greg. No, no, I'm not saying they overcame him. Just saying they, they had a good time. Let's let's say goodbye to this chargers team. Ultimately they overachieved and people got a little mad of like Jim Harbaugh, you know, going back and forth of like, well, he didn't go for fourth down on the Patriot side of the 50 early and punted. And, and that was conservative like he is. But then he did go for it inside the 10 and they didn't get it. and you're like, oh, Jim Harbaugh is never going to go for it again. And he didn't. He kicked the field goal inside the 10 later in the game.

53:49That ultimately wasn't what was going to matter in this game. They just got physically dominated. And I think it's going to have him look in the mirror and think about his play color and what they're going to do next. Or not. We'll have to find out. Let's take one final break. We're going to come back with another coaching staff who is going to be facing some heat after the events of Sunday.

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58:51Interceptions thrown by the 49ers. George Kittle's devastating injury in the second quarter. And now the offense comes out of the field, and they can put this thing away here in Philly. To the exits they go. Great call there by Guy Haberman on KNBR because he not only called the play, but he gave the context of everything that this 49ers team has overcome, including, yes, playing two linebackers, one in Eric Kendricks who made that play who were not on the active roster a month ago and played over 70 snaps in this game and they hold the Eagles to 19 points 49ers win 23 to 19 I think it's been a great coaching job this season by Kyle Shanahan and an even better job by his players to step up Patrick, I'm going to start talking about actually the offense Because I know like, I know Brock threw a couple interceptions in this game, but the Eagles in the Vic Fangio era have been so good on defense.

59:58This 49ers team actually had the highest success rate of any team against the Eagles in any game against Vic Fangio's defense. And I was impressed ultimately without George Kittle, who leaves with an Achilles injury in the second quarter and without, you know, Ricky Pearsall. And obviously Brandon Ayuk hasn't been there all year. Like they still just find a way to get it done and get enough on offense against a great Philadelphia squad on the other side. And you can see it also in those interceptions where Brock Purdy was not afraid to challenge Quinjon Mitchell. He got away with it early on in the game.

1:00:33But that is continued throughout the course of the game, including Brock getting first downs and moving the sticks with his legs as well, where this team, whoever's available, has executed to a high level all season long. I think this was a classic Brock Purdy game. And I know the numbers, 18 to 31, two touchdowns, two interceptions, like kind of hides that fact when Jawan Jennings comes in and, you know, we have a chance to celebrate Tennessee quarterback Jawan Jennings once again and making a great play call, great execution by he as well as Christian McCaffrey and the entire team, where when you see when it works, this 49ers team is such a well-oiled machine and there was every opportunity for it to fall apart with Jalen Carter having having a decent game getting the pressures just considering the stakes and the circumstances and what was up against Brock Purdy I think this was a great I agree actually it reminds me a lot of the Drake May game where yeah there were a couple like really big mistakes, but most of the plays were absolutely excellent.

1:01:39And he kept firing despite mistakes. The second half kind of was classic, like Brock Purdy era 49ers. If you knew nothing else other than just looking at the drive chart, it's just kind of classic interception three and out touchdown, interception, touchdown. It's just like, but ultimately that's two fourth quarter touchdowns. And I thought he played a really good first half, which that, you know, completely ignores in terms of being very calculating, kind of being like the Josh Allen from today, making all the right decisions. And then he got got a couple of times by a really good performance by Quinion Mitchell in the second half.

1:02:19But ultimately, like you're winning a game where you're leading receiver by far is Demarcus Robinson. That's your number one. And your number three after Christian McCaffrey is Kyle Juszczyk, who like he's having to throw to his back shoulder because there's like very little open space in this Philadelphia defense and they're completing difficult catches. And maybe this season doesn't continue after next week. We'll see. I think they got a chance against Seattle, but I think it's an achievement for this team to have made it to the final eight.

1:02:51Nick Shook:It is an achievement. And while I agree that their ceiling is lower because of everybody that they've lacked and, and, you know, because of injury and everything else, it also kind of makes them dangerous because they've spent so much of this season without their key guys. Like I thought about the George Kittle injury today, most teams that had George Kittle all year would be devastated by the loss of that guy, a central figure in your game plan. They wouldn't know where to turn. Luckily the 49ers have spent a good chunk of games this season without George Kittle. And that's how we got to learn who Jake Tungus was.

1:03:21Nick Shook:and he makes a catch in the second half. And as soon as he makes that catch, I'm like, oh, they've been here. They know what to do without him. They'll be fine. And the same thing goes with their receiving core with DeMarcus Robinson with a long catch and run. And after that drive, they didn't move the ball for a while. There was very much a story of explosives and lulls and then putting together a couple of key drives late by just chipping away. But that really exhibits the resilience of this football team that has already been through so much just to get here. And it also is another demonstration of Kyle Shanahan's ability to craft up a fantastic game plan, call the right plays in the right moments and finish the job with a quarterback who is very sneakily elusive and was a problem for the Eagles who got home a lot of times and didn't finish the job and Purdy's ability to both slip sacks and then find the pocket and find the soft spots and deliver throws.

1:04:07Nick Shook:That's what helped elevate them. So yeah, I think that ultimately we'll probably wouldn't be surprised if they lose next week, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they made a run all the way to the Superbowl because why not? Why not? They've already been had been behind the eight ball with a hand tied behind their back this entire season. Why not? Well, while we're here, let's actually listen to Juwan Jennings after the game with our friend Mike Garofalo. Do you know who you're playing next week? I take a wild guess. I hope it's Seattle. It is Seattle. Let's go. Let's go. I can't wait. That's who we wanted.

1:04:40Nick Shook:On to the divisional round. Go celebrate this one. I appreciate y 'all, man. I just like that. He said that's who he wanted. That's who he wanted. We wanted Seattle again, and they will get that rematch. Yeah, this was a game where it's 16 to 10 after the Eagles have what was their most successful second half drive to that point, which was a 10 play, 23 yard drive that took five minutes. If you want to know what the Eagles offense looked like in the second half, it looked like the Eagles offense in the second half from the entire season. It's absolutely ridiculous. And they go up 1610. And yet, at that point, you still were wondering, maybe the Eagles defense is just going to be too good and they can get away with settling for these field goals and not really doing anything on offense.

1:05:27But like in so many of their losses this year, ultimately, that stagnation did come back to haunt them. But we didn't really know it until they gave that man, Juwan Jennings, the ball, but not as a receiver. Christian McCaffrey behind him. Sky Moore in motion. It's a trick play. They give it to Moore. Now flip to Juwan Jennings and around Jennings throws it to McCaffrey. And he's got it. McCaffrey caught it for the touchdown. Touchdown 49ers. And that is the 49ers own Philly special. McCaffrey spikes the ball into the ground and the 49ers have tied the game. A rough, rough period of time for Reed Blankenship.

1:06:09Yes. In this one, he was able to get run over for a first down. had one coverage bust earlier in the game. And in that one, he's looking at Jawan Jennings on the reverse, but his teammates are there. And CMC is really the only threat. And he gets past him, and it's a nice play to kind of hesitate and give Blankenship something to think about by Jawan Jennings. And then throwing that late, so late, in fact, that Jalen Carter gets a roughing the passer penalty on the wide receiver throwing the ball. But it's just, you got to tip your cap at a certain point to that execution. because even if Blankenship carries with CMC, like Jennings may put that ball over the top of his head anyway.

1:06:47And that actually came before a big Reed Blankenship penalty, which preceded the CMC touchdown that we'll listen to in a sec. But before we move on, that was from Purdy, not from Jennings. Before we move on from that play, though, that is dual threat quarterback Juwan Jennings, as you mentioned. Drew Christensen, our great producer and former researcher in the NFL, he was popping in in our 40s and free agents episode during the week live and pointing out when we were talking about Juwan Jennings and his great quarterbacking skills that this was a man who was once ranked a four-star recruit as the number five dual threat quarterback in the entire NFL that year, just ahead of Sam Darnold, who hilariously was called a dual threat quarterback as the number six.

1:07:42I mean, I know he's athletic. I guess for high school, I guess for high school, yeah, you could imagine. Number six was Darnold. Number seven was Joe Burrow. And number nine was Lamar Jackson. So, I mean, that was a hell of a draft class. And Juwan Jennings was atop of it. And he's now got more playoff touchdowns than Sam Darnold because he hit that Super Bowl one to CMC back in the, in the chief Superbowl too. So what a, what a moment. And that was kind of the moment. I was like, Oh, the Eagles are going to lose this game. It really felt like that.

1:08:12Nick Shook:It was a perfectly executed trick play too. Not only because of Jennings there, which by the way, he throws that on the run off one foot. And it's an absolute dime to the outside shoulder to McCaffrey who makes a Willie Mays stack catch in the end zone to get the job done. They couldn't have executed this any better. Brock Purdy even hung in to pretend like he was going to block. I just noticed that. Yeah, so did I just now. Like, oh, wait, there's Brock Purdy pretending I may chip somebody. Probably not, but I might. And guess what? He didn't have to because Jennings is athletic enough to get the throw off perfectly off one foot.

1:08:44Nick Shook:McCaffrey making a spectacular catch. And if you needed a moment in which the momentum of the game shifted permanently in favor of the 49ers, it was right there. Okay. Before we get to the dissection of the end of the Philadelphia Eagles season and their chance at defending things, let's listen to someone I thought we weren't going to hear, you know, in terms of being a play-by-play guy again this season, Will Gavin of TalkSport. They sent my guy Will across the pond to go announce this game for TalkSport. And I thought the Purdy throw to CMC and that drive was a really great evidence of Purdy's maturation because a lot of times in that drive, he was getting to the second and third read.

1:09:30It wasn't the obvious throw. He wasn't forcing the ball in the biggest spot, even though I know he had those two interceptions, he bounced back and he made some money throws, including this score. Hurdy in the gun, McCaffrey alongside him, three receivers right in Jennings, Kendrick Bourne and Demarcus Robinson. One receiver to the left is his tight end. He sends Bourne in motion, stomps his foot, gets the ball, looks to his right hand side, steps up in the pocket, throws left instead. Touchdown Niners! Christian McCaffrey right on the G of the Eagles in the end zone. And in the fourth quarter, they retake the lead.

1:10:05San Francisco up 4-23-19. And this battered, bruised, and banged up San Francisco team just won't take it lying down. Yes! I love it. Ed Will's a 49ers fan. I don't think he'll mind that being public information. You routed him. He's been doxxed. I'm sure he wasn't saying that on that particular broadcast, but anyone who follows him, he knows. And yeah, what a performance and what a great coaching job, too, by Robert Sala and doing it with this defense. And as we kind of transition here, Shook, I did think like maybe this was the perfect matchup for them. I mean, it's easy to say in hindsight because they're not a team that is going to get much pressure.

1:10:49And they still tried to blitz Jalen Hurts a lot. but Jalen Hurts and this passing game is maybe one of the few ones in the playoffs that it's not necessarily about like the pressure like they have not shown an ability necessarily to beat you even if Jalen Hurts is protected and certainly not over the middle of the field where I think the 49ers were most vulnerable and I don't think it's a coincidence like literally that's how the game ended was Jalen hurts being like a beat late to the middle of the field, an area where just historically he hasn't really made hay as a quarterback.

1:11:29Nick Shook:It's an interesting note about the matchup because I think going into this game, like I picked the 49ers and a three point win going into the job. And I thought about it from both sides, which is okay. Let's think about their last game against a good defense. They could do absolutely nothing against Seattle. That's concerning. But if there's one team that you want to play and you know that you're going to have to score points to beat them. And that's your advantage because their offense is going to be stuck in the mud for most of the game. It's the Eagles because they can't figure out how to use the copious amounts of talent they have on that side of the ball.

1:11:58Nick Shook:And we saw it again. It wasn't until the final drive of the game when they're going no huddle, where they're starting to actually move the football consistently through the air. Everything was so difficult for them. I think about an early Saquon Barkley run where he cuts it back. And because I think it was one of the defensive backs lost contain, he gets a big run. You don't hear anything from him for the rest of the game because they don't run the ball. Well, tank Bigsby runs it a little bit better, but ultimately they could not get into a rhythm, which is the story of their entire season. And it's not just Jalen hurts.

1:12:26Nick Shook:It's the entire scheme hurts plays a part in it. Of course they don't block as well as they did last year, but this operation is not creative. They have terrible calls in on key downs, the fourth down that, that, you know, seals the victory for the 49ers that we played at the start of this recap. It was a great example of it, where you're just running guys in the, into the middle of the field and into traffic and Jalen's forced to make a quick decision. He's also a little responsible for breaking clean pockets. Sometimes like the, just the whole operation is not good. And I think that it is far too telling from what this team has been all year.

1:13:00Nick Shook:This is none of this is surprising. This is the exact frustration that sent AJ Brown to talk about it when he was streaming on Twitch, playing Madden one time, this is, this is what fueled the drama on that side of the field. And I would be stunned, absolutely stunned that if Nick Sirianni remains a coach, if he doesn't get rid of his offensive coordinator, Kevin Petulo, it just did not have a grip on the offense all year and what to do with this talent. And this is how their season, I think properly ended. But the thing that I keep coming back to is if you have to keep finding head coach level, offensive coordinators to make it work, then I think you've already found what a major part of the issue is because everything is, as Shook pointed out, that has gone wrong for the Eagles did go wrong.

1:13:41We had Jalen leaving a pocket early, which is something he's always done consistently, even in the Super Bowls that he played spectacularly in. There was a drop by A.J. Brown on that final drive. One of the final Saquon plays that we got in the game because he got hurt. Tank Bigsby came in in relief. He worked it out on the sideline coming back in. But you have Dallas Goddard blocking Bryce Huff and getting absolutely washed to the extent where Saquon tries to cut back and he ends up rolling up on himself and he has to leave the game. And then we have the most inexplicable timeout I've ever seen in a football game where they want to make the play call better.

1:14:22The play calls have been bad all season long. They want to get up. They want to get into a better play and talk about it more. Meanwhile, they could have had three timeouts to get the ball back. Instead, they chose to have a discussion where it's like this is this is the Eagles 2025 season writ large. And what a perfect way for it to end the same way it was the whole time. So on brand, Nick Sirianni racing to A.J. Brown on the sideline, you know, right before halftime because he wanted A.J. Brown to get off the field because they were about to punt. and I guess Brown was moving slowly and Brown getting back in his face.

1:15:03It's just always something, and I know it's sports, and A.J. Brown had a rough game. He had a drop in the first half, too, and it was very windy there, and I think that really affected the passing game, especially the deep passing game. There was a deep shot that Jalen Hurts is usually great on that you could tell got taken, but A.J. Brown had two drops, and you have to wonder if this is going to be it for him. Here's Nick Sirianni talking about his relationship with his receiver after the game.

1:15:33Nick Shook:I love AJ. I think he knows how I feel about him. I have a special relationship with him. We've probably went through every emotion you can possibly have together. We've laughed together. We've cried together. We've yelled at each other. We're both emotional. I was trying to get him off the field. and, you know, you never want, you know, that happens in this game. That happens in this game. And, but I love him. Um, I, I get it, but. No, I don't. I don't. Because here's the thing. Control your emotions. There's no, there's nothing good about you running down and telling you what are your best players to get off the field?

1:16:10Nick Shook:Cause you're frustrated. Keep it controlled. And he said like, we're both Superbowls and he's like, Hey, we're both emotional guys, but it's like, yeah, but that's, that's your wide receiver. You're the coach. Yeah, invest that energy elsewhere. Like, in terms of decision-making and coaching and being on the sideline, why is that energy not being invested elsewhere other than sprinting down the field to get A.J. Brown when there's other folks that need to get off the field at the same time, too? Yeah, like, the yelling at A.J. thing is more of a symptom. The things that really bother me more is the timeout, which you mentioned.

1:16:47The give-up plays. There was a second and 19 run. I'm so sick of the Eagles with these like second and 19 runs that go nowhere. There was also a third and 13 Jalen Hurts quarterback run. I believe that might've set up that field goal to go up 16 to 10. It's like, it's almost not even trying. And that happens all the time. And then it's just the continuous second half anti-adjustments where they just have these stretches every single week where in this drive, in this game, you know, if you go back to the last drive of the second quarter, it was a five drive sequence where they gained a total of 49 yards and just happens.

1:17:26It happens every week. And you mentioned Chuck, if he's the coach, I have never witnessed a spicier moment in, in, in the coaching carousel than we're in right now. eight coaches available eight coaches available and why I think it's spicy is just the uncertainty where we are today because we don't know what Harbaugh is going to do right but we don't know what's going to happen with Matt LaFleur he met with the media on Sunday he says he's going to meet with you know team president Ed Policy Adam Schefter pointedly did a whole quote unquote report on Sunday morning that basically was what we talked about on Thursday on our show that, hey, you know, Bob Harlan's son happens to represent John Harbaugh.

1:18:22And wouldn't it be interesting? You know, John Harbaugh lives in the Northwest. And that would be interesting if maybe he would like that would be a job that he would really like the Packers. OK. Yeah, me too. It's nice to want. Yeah, but Adam Schefter isn't just throwing it out there willy nilly. It's for a purpose. It's either to put some heat. For whose purpose? Well, for John Harbaugh to make more money. But maybe for John Harbaugh to get that job, either to create leverage. But it's interesting. The LaFleur thing is hanging out there. The Dolphins are in this whole mix. Could the Eagles possibly get in this mix?

1:18:59It's almost a game of chicken. I don't think the Packers would want Matt LaFleur to get out there if they thought maybe he would end up in Philadelphia. or maybe, you know, maybe, you know, it's a whole triangle. And do you think that the Eagles could get in the mix here? Because, you know, John Harbaugh, people might not remember, like he came up in the Philadelphia system. It's just a lot. It's spicy.

1:19:22Nick Shook:I wouldn't be surprised if phone calls have already been made from somebody's limo. Well, they were home, so, well, maybe still taking a limo. Car service home from the game, from Lincoln Financial Field to kick the tires on some potential candidates out there. I thought you were going to pivot toward what would happen And if Nick Sirianni got fired and just threw a powder keg into the whole coaching carousel, I'm saying like, what if he gets fired and they bring in Harbaugh or something, or they go for a little player coach. I'm thinking about him getting a head coaching job somewhere else and blowing that up.

1:19:48Nick Shook:But that would be fun. How about this though? I think that we deserve this uncertainty and potential chaos scenario because what did we talk about with this coaching carousel this whole off season? Oh, I don't know. Do you make the fight? You get rid of the coach. Cause the get it's out there. Aren't too strong. Well, suddenly we might be chock full of big time candidates and it could get really interesting. I wanted to get super spicy. I would like an agent to tell somebody to tell an insider that an agent's going to prevent somebody from getting a job as opposed to saying, oh, well, agents who definitely have value provided to their customers are helping somebody get a job.

1:20:25They maybe shouldn't. But because the agent is under contract, then that's why you should hire this person. Well, I do think the agents sometimes use the media to make their clients more money from aging businessmen whose whole life hasn't been football and maybe aren't the best at evaluating the right things, who to give all their money to and why to give all their money. That they actually really listen to these reports. That does have some function. So instead of just telling them themselves. I don't know. They tell somebody else to tell everybody by way of telling. I think there are ownership who value like what Schefter and Rappaport and everyone's saying more than the people inside their own building.

1:21:14Nick Shook:I know of the agent connection between somebody who's a higher up at a few organizations getting a few lower level coaches hired. This is definitely a real thing. Definitely a real thing. So I mean, you guys are right. There's no other way to explain the fact that your proud Baltimore Ravens weren't ashamed enough to not send out the tweet that said, Matt Nagy interviewed Friday. Why is Matt Nagy getting five interviews? It has to be. He's got to have a great age. What is happening? Yeah. I just think it's the, yes, the thing is happening. Should the thing be happening is a part of it. And I just, you know.

1:21:54that's a good thing to point out. I would like to know I'd like to know all of the whys all the whys. I mean that that is a great question for this entire Eagles season. All the whys everyone was kind of holding out hope this whole time like maybe they just press the button and like we just would see playoff play you know Jalen and in a different game like they could have escaped this game but the 49ers. This is a Niners team that hasn't been able to rush the passer for 10 weeks. Yeah. This is a nasty loss. Like, there's something that has to change. It's a good point. They had, I think, one of the lowest success rates of the entire season for the Eagles, and it happened against this lower-tier defense.

1:22:40And yeah, you mentioned Saquon. He had four for 65 on that first drive, first touchdown drive. They always look good at the beginning. In the next 22 carries he had in this game, he gained a total of 41 yards, and it felt like every other snap in the fourth quarter was like a run for negative three. Man, what a wildcard weekend, and it's not over yet. You know, as Tony Romo would say, oh, here we go, Jim! But now it's like sentient Romo. Did you notice the thing today? I don't know if you were locked in. Like, he was like too self-aware because he was about to say that in the right moment of the game for the Jaguars.

1:23:21But then he sort of said it in a voice that was like making fun of Tony Romo while Tony Romo was saying it. Like he was audible in on the fly. Cause he knows everyone makes fun of him for it. And that Tony Romo kind of makes me even sadder. You know what I mean? Oh, it's all.

1:23:37Nick Shook:He's done it a few times late in close games of the season where he does it. Like I'm leaning on my catchphrase. So instead of being like, here we go with full exuberance, he's like, Oh, Oh,

1:23:51that's not that. We need the full Tony experience. Bring him back. I'm excited. And look, I've been picking a Rams Seahawks NFC Championship game all year, saying that they're the best two teams. And it was looking for a while. Like that was impossible. We were going to get that as a divisional round game. But no, now that the 49ers pulled off this upset, it'll be the 49ers going back to Seattle. and yeah, the Rams will be in Chicago. We will finish the AFC field on Monday night. A treat on Sunday night here with my friends Patrick and Nick, my only two friends in the world for this 80 minutes.

1:24:31But no, there's other great people in my life. I promise. Other than football. Please, I've been waiting for that music to hit. Eric likes to hang me out to dry. Why do you do that? He's got to do that as a friend. he's already playing mind games ahead of Bill's Patriots potentially I don't know if the Patriots are going to get there we'll find out if the Texans are going to Foxborough Monday night live on YouTube for the last time on a Monday night all season see you then

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