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20:10He says, you still deserve a contract. The first team you put the first team has put you through hell. And yet I'm still ready to go. Haven't had any injuries. Now. Give me my damn money.

20:29uh it's not even receiver money it's like we're hanging with the punters and the kickers what do you uh what do you think of the comments first but the use of running backs now like what do you think has been the change why they don't i mean when you look at it like they're they're getting rid of guys younger and younger. If you're not one of those top five running backs, you're, you know, they're getting you out of there.

21:01James Harrison:Oh, a thousand percent. And like you said, you know what it is? It's a business. So if you're, they're going to use you up, rookie contract, then first three years, you know what I'm saying? Hopefully if you stay that the part is that you're expected to get hurt. You know what I'm saying? So the running backs, and then you can draft a running back. They say in the second round, the third round, you can get running backs a little bit all over. Jalen Warren, for example. He's a great running back that we didn't draft high, you know what I'm saying, and ended up being able to sign him for the low.

21:30James Harrison:So it's messed up, but understanding like Saquon Barkley's are going to be the reasons why. Great running backs that end up just high production. You're going to have to take a shorter-term deal with guaranteed money. These two years, fully guaranteed joints, if they're doing the two-year for getting$15 million a year, Saquon just did a two-year for$40 million extension. Now the market, the highest paid running back is at$20 million a year. Understand that he got 36 guaranteed. It's going to be more guaranteed the shorter term. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y 'all?

22:01James Harrison:It's your girl Sam Jay. And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports.

22:35James Harrison:Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalenka. Shout-outs to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened, we're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to Everyone Watches Women's Sports on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

22:58James Harrison:Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. You know us, or rather, you know them. Tony and Candice, Nina and Lance, Spike, and yes, the chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AO Rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made?

23:31James Harrison:Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Kreisel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song, a melody. Well, I thought he was going to write, I thought you were all going to write a song. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia A-O Rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

24:06Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I also led the team that created MTV, and my co-founders and I are celebrating MTV's 45th anniversary this month. On my podcast, Math & Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing, you'll hear the untold origin story from the people who built MTV from the ground up.

24:26James Harrison:I want my MTV! Those are powerful words. My. Something for me that felt like mine and want. What a powerful word. Listen to Math & Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. term deal when you start coming off your rookie contracts and it's just because the you're going to get this 100 injury in the nfl and they're giving you the ball all the time so just got to be able to get on that for a little bit uh shorter term deal and just bet on yourself it sucks but it's the nfl that's the way that they're going and they're not trying it is a business so just keep that in perspective and i love the way the eagles and saquon they did it right you know i'm Send Cook and the Bills.

25:10James Harrison:Just these little short-term deals with 15, 16, 17, that's solid money. Hopefully, like when you get Saquon to put it up to 20, we get another running back that continues, hopefully balls out, B 'Jawn Robinson. Hopefully he can get up there and stay healthy, get to 22. So I see it going up, but just knowing it's going to be more short-term deals with guaranteed money because it's a business. You are a running back. They can figure out, they can come get you, find somebody coming out of college or get somebody for a little bit less that's going to do a lot of good production. You know, when Thurman Thomas played, it was a totally, you know, it was a totally different game.

25:45It was, you know, it was run heavy. It was a physical game. And, you know, them guys, you know, played longer careers because that's what the game was. You had a big, you know, had a big offensive line. You had a big defensive line. And you went out there and you tried to push the other guy around. You had a big fullback. Right. And if you had a good running back, which you were a nice fullback, blocking that's just what the game came to right now it is a pass heavy game do um you know everything they want to do is for scoring they did things that helped by you know changing the rules to make it easier for them to score exactly yeah you know it's offensive base rules for for the majority of things that's going on can't touch the quarterbacks they make it Yeah.

26:35Yeah. Again, the wear and tear, you know, on a running back, especially if you're paying one running back that much is it's hard. You know, you got a lot of people who are not a lot of teams. You've got a few teams who are now using, you know, a couple guys, you know, and and finding a way to get the money situated to where they can they can they can keep both. I think Detroit is one of those people that got a great, you know, two running backs over there that really, you know, complement each other. You got a speed guy, you got a power guy. And, you know, they're having some real success, you know, with their run game over there.

27:11James Harrison:That's the best combination, the best running back combination, I think, in the league for sure. Yeah. I got to figure out what their contract situation is, too, how much they make in a year. Because however they finagle that, other teams need to look and see how to finagle that. Well, you got to have you got. Here's the thing. I think you got to have guys who are willing to be like, I know what my worth is and have a realistic number of what their worth is. Although you want to get paid as much as you can at some point, if you're trying to do this to actually make money and for the longevity of it, the longer you can play, the more money you can make.

27:51I think having two running backs is more beneficial for a person that is playing, you know, the running back position. No, I think so, too.

27:59James Harrison:You're right. Wearing tear on them, have to carry and just seeing like as long as that money is looking good for you. You don't have to be the highest person to set the market. But if you're comfortable, your family's comfortable, you like your income, stay right there. Keep it Cruz. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think you need to always shake it up, always try to get out of a situation like that. So I think for sure we're looking at if I'm going to get the ball all the time, they're going to keep punishing me. Is it worth it or am I going to be able to play a little bit longer if I got another dude with me that I'm splitting carries with and we, you know, I'm saying both could be here for a while.

28:31James Harrison:Yeah. Like you said, the workhorses go get paid. The money's go go up. But as a whole at that position, you know, it's not I can I can get I can get a guy in here that, you know, he hasn't had multiple surgeries on his knee. You know, he's coming in, you know, fresh out of college. You know, they got the rules set to where these dudes aren't getting beat up like they used to. And now he's and he's hungry. You know what I'm saying? He's ready to get in there and try and take right. Try and take your spot. So, you know, it's easier to get that rookie contract. You get him in there for four years.

29:03You start looking at the next guy you want, you know, you know, a year or two before you got to get rid of him. I mean, you're looking at the situation right now, like you said, with the Steelers. They went and got a top, you know, a top running back and then they went and got another running back. And who's sitting there right now with the contract and who did they let go? This is a prime example of it. What, you know, Thurman is talking about.

29:26James Harrison:Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. So speaking of the Steelers, Aaron Rodgers. Tom Brady said that Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback in NFL history. He said, Aaron and his prime to me is the greatest passer of the football that league has ever seen. He could get the ball from point A to point B faster and more accurate than any player in NFL history. What do you think of those comments? See, so I'm going to say that I agree. and this is just before, before I even, when I was, when I was growing up, this is 2002, 2003, I'm watching Aaron Rodgers. And just from my eye test, it was Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, who was the better quarterback.

30:16James Harrison:And I've like his in history, like trying to get the Super Bowls and all that. But with my eye test, I thought Aaron Rodgers threw the prettiest spiral through the best pass that I've ever seen in my life. Just the release of it, just the placement, just the way he threw the ball and that might not make him the greatest quarterback of all time with championships and Super Bowls. That's like, that's for other people to debate. But from my eye test, when I was watching my best favorite quarterback I ever seen throw the ball and put it in the spot was Aaron Rodgers. And that is without before Tom Brady saying this, this is the way I felt, you know what I'm saying?

30:49James Harrison:Back in the day. And I would say Tom Brady, greater Peyton Manning may be greater, but with my eye testing, how you put the ball in certain spots and spin that joint like that i've never seen anybody spinning like aaron rogers in my opinion i would i would agree i would agree with you and in time because the biggest thing for me is the speed at which he gets there with the accuracy that he gets there believe me i've seen it firsthand and he's throwing this thing it looks like with the flick of a wrist dude when he was doing it and it's it's on the money. And it's spiraling everything. It's like three inches right out of your reach and nobody can get it but the receiver.

31:33You know what I'm saying? And it's coming like lightning. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's

31:38James Harrison:impressive. I've been in situations that was my first quarterback I played him in my rookie season when I came out for the Browns. We played Green Bay in Lambeau Field. First game of my career. First preseason game. He went 10 for 10 on us and threw a touchdown. That's when he had, like, Donald Driver. He had Jordy Nelson. You let him go 10 for 10? He went 10 for 10, and I'm right there in the pocket. But I can't touch the ball. The receiver can touch the ball. Bing, right out of my head. Yes, yes. He caught the joint, and then I tackled him. Catch and tackle, but I'm like, oh, my, I'm right here.

32:11James Harrison:Why are you still throwing? Oh, that's a pick. No, it's not. Oh, my God. Right out of my reach. I'm falling, diving for the ball. You know who I think was great, like, really great at throwing you out of being able to pick the ball, it was time, dude. You'd be like, oh, I done broke on this. And he would throw the ball to where it's going over your head to the receiver over his shoulder. And you'd be like, you done broke, dude. Just by looping it. Yes, looping it. Yes. So I know you've been the same, Jordy Nelson. I'm right there. And I'm like, he threw the fade ball. And I'm right there. And it went right over my hand.

32:45James Harrison:I'm like, this dude is unbelievable. He's trying me. And I can't touch it. I haven't touched the ball yet. You couldn't even knock one down, Joe? I didn't get no PBUs. None. Not one. All completions. They was catching it, and I was tackling them. I was like, oh, my God. Like this. Word of my hand. Oh, my God. He got it. Tackle. Bro, it was crazy.

33:10How many times did you have that game, baby?

33:12James Harrison:Man, how many times he threw it on me? Three. I had three tackles. That man went three. He went 10 for 10. I told you with three for three on me and three good tackles. Boom. Low tackles. Solid tackles though. You made sure it wasn't no yak though. No yak. Zero yak. No yak at all. Zero yak. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about, man. That was crazy. It was crazy. Where was that at? It was in Lambeau Field, 2010. Was it cold? It felt like to me, dude, he got back in the cold, man. It was beautiful outside. It was a beautiful day. It was like in August. Yeah, he was whipping that thing.

33:52James Harrison:Man, he was spinning that ball so well. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, that's one of those things you can't, you know, it's nothing you can do to defend great people. No, no, no. It's not about me. It's about Aaron. It had nothing to do with me. Yeah, it's all about. I was a nameless great face. It had nothing to do with you. It's all about me. I was a nameless great face. He saw through me that day. He saw through all of us. Dude, speaking of dude about him or nothing about you, let's roll over here to Miami, man. I guess Miami announced that they're captains for 2025 season. And there was no Tariq on it.

34:33I guess for the first time since 2022, he was not voted a captain. Mike McDonald and Mike McDonald had a very revealing quote. He said, we were focused on giving the keys to the captains to guys that had earned. Oh, hold on. The guys that had earned it each and every day. That's what speaks to me the most is the football team that knows who it wants to be led by. Captain C to the guys. I got you. All right. So, with that, Tariq not being selected, are you surprised? What's your reaction to that?

35:26James Harrison:I ain't going to lie to you, brother. I'm not surprised at all. Did you know, you remember at the end of the season, I'm trying to be out of here. And you know that could definitely at the end of the season. Not only am I trying to be out of here, this man pulled himself out the game in the third quarter. Come on, brother. So we acting like these are other grown men. These are your teammates that are voting for the captain. They seen that. And people just not going to vote for that. You know what I'm saying? They don't feel like you all in. And you said you wasn't all in. I mean, you apologize and everything, but that's cool.

36:00James Harrison:You're still going to be able to come in there. They're going to respect you. And as long as you go out there and work. These grown men, I want you to work. I want you to play every day, be on time for meetings. And when you're out there, grind. And when you're on the field, grind and try to be the best you can be. Be Tyreek. That's all I need. I need nothing. No more, no less. But making you a captain after you said what you said, I'm not going to go in there feeling no type of way. But you can actually speak louder than words. You can show me better than you can tell me. You coming in there, working, grinding, doing what you got to do, leading by example is what it's going to be.

36:28James Harrison:But it's OK you're not a captain. I was on the teams where I felt like I was a leader a couple of times that I wasn't a captain. I was never a captain when I was on the Steelers. That's Cam Hayward, TJ. It's going to be a certain amount of captains. So when they come there, then you know you're still going to be a valuable part. Just don't be bringing bad vibes. Come in here, do your job, and it's going to be what it is. Maybe next season, if you come in there, show leadership, do what you got to do, then you can be a captain. But you know how that is. You told us you got to be a part. They ain't going to win.

36:55James Harrison:I'm not voting for you. Yeah, I think he let his emotional state right then get him into a situation that if he had just sat back and had time to cool off and think about it, I don't think he would have did and said the same things at that point. I mean, when you go back to it, you know, that's his first time ever not being in the playoffs, bro. Yeah. His first time, I believe, having a losing season in the NFL. So I think it was a knee-jerk reaction, you know, to a situation that, you know, he saw as a permanent situation that may continue and was just like, yeah, I'm going to be out of here.

37:46James Harrison:Do you think it's cool, though, that he's not going to be a captain? Do you realize? I'm cool with it, dude. You're cool with it. Okay. I'm 100 % cool with it, dude. I have no issue with it at all. Like you said, the team voted it. But according to them, the team voted it. They made it to where they spoke by who they voted for. And, you know, that speaks for itself. It's sometimes where, you know, some teams you vote, but they end up picking who they want. You know what I'm saying? What you laughing for, Joe? I mean, that could be, could be, could be. I'm just saying, I've heard of it happening.

38:33James Harrison:I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard. I would like to hope that it's like the lottery and it's legit, but you never know. You never know unless you see it for yourself and then you saw it and you know. So I'm just saying, it's some teams that actually do pick who it is. they want to be the leader for their team. And sometimes they disguise it under the, you know, the pretense of that's who the guys pick. But it's kind of hard when it comes down to, you know, and guys are like, you pick who? You pick who? Like, who? Who voted for who? Okay. You see what I'm saying? You just saying, I'm catching what you're putting down.

39:19James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? but I ain't trying to, you know. I'm just saying, I'm just saying that, you know, that happens. So, yeah, that's all I was saying. Okay. Yeah. But him not being voted, I mean, he even had, you know, he even understood it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure, bro. He took accountability, you know, for what he said. He's not surprised that he wasn't voted captain. Yeah. You know, he know he's going to have to go in there and earn these guys' trust back and all that. You know, you say that, you're basically saying that you don't want to be with us no more because we trash.

39:50Like, you can't say that because you're not saying like us. You're saying like, it's you, Joe. You're trash. I don't want to be here. I need to get out of here because I can go and do way more without y 'all. You know what I'm saying?

40:05James Harrison:He's telling y 'all are trash. I've won on other teams. I need to go. Right. I was in Kansas City. They were better than y 'all. I need to go back. Yes. That's what they felt like. For sure. Now we skip on over to Dallas, man. man, Trayvon Diggs has finally came out and defended Micah, saying that he felt everyone in Dallas, current locker room, like Micah and thinks the rumors likely came from former Cowboys. He said, I think everyone liked him. I feel like there are some former players who are not here no more who didn't like Micah. there was a lot of us I would say there was a lot of I would say hate jealousy envy towards him because of who he is and the production he does on the field imagine if you came in here and you're thinking and you're uh taking somebody else so you're taking somebody's shine or taking somebody's spot you're not going to like that they're going to feel a type of way especially if you're that type of person oh that sounds like shots fired it does you name any names but i mean do you think digs was referring to demarcus lawrence oh i mean that sounds that sounds about right they were saying you take somebody's spot they was i don't i'm just asking the question i ain't look that's what i don't know i don't i my name bennett and i ain't in it but i mean the descriptions of what he's saying it says i think everyone liked him i feel like there's some former players who are not here no more who didn't like michael there was a lot of I would say hate, jealousy, envy, those are personal words, towards him because of who he is and the production he does on the field.

42:12So imagine if you came in here and you're taking somebody's shine. So he took somebody, he was taking somebody's shine, right? And taking somebody's spot, you're not going to like that, right? No. You're going to feel a type of way, especially if you're that type of person. Now he's saying that person is that type of person, too. So I don't I'm just asking a question to you. Like, do you think he was referring to anybody in specific? Maybe Demarcus Lawrence or you? I don't know. Do you think yes or no?

42:51James Harrison:This this this would possibly be. That's what I'm saying. it sounds like he's talking about somebody to play defensive end because he said taking his spot right but we don't go from there previous defensive end that did there um i would say i love trevon digs coming out because nobody's really came out in defense of michael parsons i know that these dudes kick it they hang out that's his boy so from trevon's perspective It could be literally what it is. Like, that's my man's, we cool. Trayvon also has his bag and knows that Micah Parsons out there balling deserves his bag. He's been playing with me.

43:31James Harrison:We've been doing this together. So he's out there, I think, trying to defend for his man's. I don't know of the person that's not on the team anymore, but it sounds like another defensive end that was there that maybe, Debo, say, it's like, yeah, obviously. You know what I'm saying? Like the same situation when we have, it's like you and TJ come in where he's like, they not, maybe they didn't tell DeMarcus. Maybe they tried to play with him a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Like they tried to play with you and TJ a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Like that's probably, probably how it was.

44:01James Harrison:And DeMarcus don't play that. So he's probably vocalized how he felt. You know what I'm saying? And I think that some of that stuff, it doesn't have nothing to do with maybe Micah and Micah and his relationship as much as he thinks with DeMarcus and the Cowboys organization. You know what I'm saying? He might have talked to them, maybe not rocking. Oh, you drafted this dude. What do y 'all think is going on? I'm just trying to go from devil's advocate because there's always two sides of the story. I don't know what happened with Micah. I don't know what happened with DeMarcus, with Trayvon, what he's saying.

44:33James Harrison:I'm just trying to put pieces of the puzzle. but I just sounded like the puzzle kind of it kind of fitting you know the pieces is fitting you know when you line it up so I think it's a possibility will I give a definite yes or no no I can't do that no that's not we can't do that that would be that would not be that would be disingenuous a thousand percent to the argument come on Debo right exactly so So now speaking of Michael Parsons, Dan Campbell said, Dan Campbell, we know what kind of player Michael Parsons is. We'll have a plan. Does Michael Parsons put the Packers over the Lions in the NFC North, do you think?

45:22I mean, it helps them out a lot.

45:25James Harrison:I mean, I don't see why not. I mean, the Packers are not a bad team. Jordan Love has been playing really good. They beat. They did good last season. And with just adding another defensive player, that's going to help out their secondary. That's going to help out their pass rush. And I don't think they have nowhere to go but up since Drew and Love with another year under his belt. He's done nothing but prove to me that he can actually be a franchise quarterback. So if he can be a franchise quarterback, and Micah Parsons can help that defense out, because they don't look bad. They look like they're on the up and up.

45:58James Harrison:They're drafting well. They're moving in the right direction. So Packers are up for me. And like I said before, I've seen them. They made a Reggie White trade with a quarterback. They made a Charles Woodson trade with the quarterback. And now they got Jordan Love and then they made this Micah Parsons trade. I'm liking them dudes knowing when they need to get a crazy piece on defense because they have a franchise quarterback. So I think the Packers is looking like they know what they're doing. So, yeah, I'm going to go with I think it puts the Packers as the guys in the NFC North right now. You added in a pass rusher.

46:37The games that, you know, they've played over the last year or two have been close games. When you take into account, you know, that the Lions, I believe, lost their O &D coordinator to head coaching positions. You got to change right there. You got Hutchinson coming back off of, you know, messing up his leg. You got to build that confidence back at going out there, especially, you know, how he ended up messing his leg up. He swung around. So you got to get used to it. How long that's going to take. I hit and swing around is, you know, he's back full 100 percent. But to get out there and live action when those bodies are flying around, it's a little different.

47:19But I think, you know, having Micah there and you add him in there with the current defensive line that they have, I think it puts them over the top. These three point games, you know, that that's going to go ahead and actually change where it's a sack fumble now. Yeah, that that three point game can be a switch from, you know, a loss to a win of three points or six points or seven points, whatever that may be. Yeah, they brought in a game changer. Yes, definitely a game changer. Like, there's no court.

47:55James Harrison:Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. You know us, or rather, you know them. Tony and Candice, Nina and Lance, Spike, and yes, the chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AO Rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, Breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made?

48:28James Harrison:Why do we think that was a good idea? We're ready to talk about it. And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators, and friends, including director Jonathan Kreisel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song, a melody. Well, I thought he was going to write, I thought you were all going to write a song. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia A-O Rewatch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

49:03Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. I also led the team that created MTV, and my co-founders and I are celebrating MTV's 45th anniversary this month. On my podcast, Math & Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing, you'll hear the untold origin story from the people who built MTV from the ground up.

49:23James Harrison:I want my MTV! Those are powerful words. My. Something for me that felt like mine and want. What a powerful word. Listen to Math & Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up, y 'all? It's your girl, Sam Jay. And we're the hosts of Everyone Watches Women's Sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real, women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days. So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii.

50:01James Harrison:My first thought is just like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week. Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out. She beat Sabalenka. Shout out to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened, we're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports.

50:32James Harrison:Listen to Everyone Watches Women's Sports on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen about it. Yeah. so now let's get back to our Steelers then okay what you want to hit I want to talk about your man Adam Schefter is talking about Cam Hayward maybe sitting out for the season opener Cam sitting out for the season what's going on over there I don't know I think he got two years left on his contract don't he? he just signed a two year extension he got two more years left I think he signed a two year extension extension last offseason, which gave him this year and next year for contracts.

51:20James Harrison:So he got this year. Oh, he has a deal for next year. So last offseason, he signed a two-year extension because he only had one year left on his deal. So then he played that and now he has this one and next year for the extension he signed last year. Yeah, so he did sell out a portion of training camp and didn't rule out sitting in the start of the regular season until he gets what he wants. Hayward was practicing with the team on Monday, which suggests he's going to play. But Adam Scheffner says there's still a possibility. Cam Hayward doesn't suit up. They're not. They haven't. They have not been able to figure it out.

52:01And so I would think it's going to be really interesting to see if Cam Hayward is on the practice field on Wednesday. as the Steelers get ready for their season, as the Steelers get ready to open their season on Sunday against the Jets. It's about to get interesting there. And again, maybe Cam Hayward says, I'm not going to play on this deal. It didn't sound that way earlier in the summer, but we'll find out what the deal looked like, Joe.

52:35James Harrison:The deal was two years,$29 million. So first year this season, this year he'll be making 14.7, and next year he'll be making like 14.2. So I think he's looking – I mean, I love the Steelers because, I mean, this is going to be – Cam's going to be year, what, 13? Year 13, 14? So, I mean, his production and everything, I understand what he's saying, has not slipped. So there's defensive tackles. I think it's up there. We got defensive ends, obviously, now,$47 million a year with Micah Parsons. We got TJ Watt at 41. We got Miles Garrett at 40. And he's kind of looking at it with him making 14.7 Pro Bowls and all that stuff.

53:22James Harrison:Like, maybe they don't deserve double what I'm getting. I mean, maybe they deserve double of what I'm getting, not triple. So he's making 14.6. Maybe Cam just wants a little$6 million bonus, you know what I'm saying, to make it around $20 million. But he did sign the extension. I can see where the Steelers are coming from where, man, Cam, this is going to be year 13, year 14. We got 14.7. We got 14.2 the next two years. That ain't no slouch. We're giving you real bread. So I can see where they're coming from. And then with Cam as the player, as production-wise, what he has done is a little up from what his contract is making.

54:00James Harrison:But you can see how it's a little bit of both. This is like his fifth contract with the Steelers. And it's not a bad deal. Like, for a defensive tackle on year 13, 14, make it 14, 7, 14, 2, that's – those are good numbers. Those are good numbers. You know what I'm saying? So, it's not a disrespectful thing, but for Cam being the player, knowing this is going to be kind of his way out, trying to get as much as he possibly can, because it is a business. He knows if he was playing bad, they might have did some other stuff. They might have let him go. He could have easily – they could have just let him slide.

54:31James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? But he knows the reason why he is still there is because of his production. It's not no friendly stuff. It is because, you know what I'm saying? I'm performing on the field. Yeah, I just I don't know what it is that makes me think that he's not going to sit out unless I tell you what. I see Cam sitting out only if in his head he's saying I'll retire if you don't give me what I want. that's the only way i see him sitting out because if you sit out like you got two years on your deal what you gonna do sit out till it's over with for a couple years yeah and i think the only way he he would sit out is if the thought process is if i don't get what i want i'm not going to play for this and i'll just retire because it's not worth it to do it at this number and put my body through whatever it is that I need to do to get ready and stay ready for the season.

55:34That's the only way I see him actually playing this year is that he says.

55:41James Harrison:That sounds like an Aaron Donald, knowing end of the day, he can walk away unless he gets the number he wants. If he doesn't feel like$14 million a year, touching taxes at$8 million to go to his thing where he's like, no, I should be making 20, I could tuck 10, 11, like$12 million, you know what I'm saying? After this season, then it's just really, he's good. You know what I'm saying? I mean, that sounds crazy to say, but being able to be in Cam and be in the position that he is, like with his body, with his family, not wanting to do it, that would be, I think, like you said, that'd be the way, being able to sit out and be like this, I'm willing to walk away.

56:19James Harrison:But I think Cam's still ready to play, still wants to go. And if you do play Cam, you still got another 30 M's, you know what I'm saying, coming in these next two seasons. So I would hunker down. Yeah, I would. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I did it for way less, baby. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I wasn't trying to count anything else, but what was good enough for me to go out there and play and be okay with it. A thousand percent. And that's on Cam. He knows his number. He knows what's going to make him good and what he feels like he deserves. So, more power to him because that's my good man.

56:59James Harrison:He a baller. Hopefully everything works out for sure. Hopefully it works out. You know, even if it don't, hopefully it still works out. You know what I'm saying? Look, we be talking about my man taking 14-7 or getting some more money. So, it's a win-win. No question. So Matthew Stafford will start the season opener against the Texans. Will Stafford finish the season as he deals with an aggravated disc in his back? I don't know. I don't know. I love Matthew Stafford, man. I played against him since he was at Georgia and I was at Florida. He had A.J. Green there. So we had some battles ever since 2008.

57:41James Harrison:an eight. So I love his game. He also has a cannon of an arm, great competitor, plays hurt. You know what I'm saying? I really, really love his game. But you know that thing, that health, that thing is always going to catch up with you. Can't nobody run away from that. So I think as long as his line tries to keep him upright, but he's a gangster, he's going to stay in the pocket. He's going to stare down the barrel. So I mean, it's just, I don't know. Depending on what I look like i don't know i think as long as he doesn't have a catastrophic event where it like just totally herniates he'll be able to make it because i myself went through a whole 14 weeks all the way up to the super bowl where i had uh herniated discs in my uh in my back and it was the year we ended up losing to Green Bay in the Super Bowl.

58:40So I'm sitting there, dude, and as the beginning of the week goes on, I'm taking the tee shot. The tee shot would make it go away. So I would play. My first game was cool. Second game was a cool. Third game, I took the tee shot and I'm like, yo, I can still feel something. So I believe it was the fourth game came along and it wasn't touching it no more. I'm like, yo, like y 'all got to check out what's going on. I'm getting these pains down my legs. You know, I'm getting a sciatic pain. I'm getting this stinging pain in my Achilles, you know, all that. And, you know, it got to the point to where, you know, I was playing and I go to step on that foot to turn the corner, dude.

59:25My whole leg just, boom, gone. Oh, no. I just fall. Right. So they did an MRI. They do the MRI. I go in. and uh they're like get the mri report and doc like yo you need to come in so i go in and he's testing me out and he's like james you know just looking at your back you know i would say that you you need to have something done right now he said but you you know you're testing out strong and all that and i'm like yeah i'm strong when i'm strong but when it ain't it's gone yeah you know what i'm saying so basically it was an option of get the surgery now you're out six weeks right or get the surgery after the season so i'm like well let's just get the surgery now man you know what i'm saying okay well end up talking to you know i guess the the training staff and everything else and whatever and they're like well let's just go until you know you can't you can't go anymore right so i'm like all right cool i'm like i'm willing to do it anyway you know what i'm saying i want i want to play i want to win i want to help my team you know what i'm looked at my dudes as family you know what i'm saying that's that's 100 what year was this this was 2010 man but the year the year they uh the year before they locked us out so i go and i'm playing and do it i had two times where you know i had one time they had to come get me i couldn't get out to bed bro i had two times where i actually got a epidural dude on a like a pregnancy epidural Yes.

1:01:01So they take a take and they do it, you know, fluoroscope guided and they go to the site where the disc is and they inject cortisone and some numbing stuff. Sorry, cortisone. Yeah, cortisone and some numbing stuff. So when they hit it, it's like, boom, I'm like, oh, because it's taking that pressure off of the nerve that the disc is pressing on. So it was my it was my S1, L5, L5, L4. it was my lumbar so it was pressing all those nerves so i was getting a sciatic and that's why you know a couple times my leg just drop give out on you know so i lose lose power and all that yeah yeah so i go and i you know i play through it you know you played the whole season with that being able to go i played i played yeah i played 12 weeks with it being able and i also was getting a lot of soft tissue work so i was doing things like you know i was getting dry needle.

1:01:56So I was getting my paraspinals needle, which is the muscles in between your spine to make sure that, you know, I was able to keep that as loose as possible. So it didn't squeeze down on that nerve. Right. What was your practice schedule like? I practiced normal, bro. Practice normal. I practiced normal. I didn't, I didn't change nothing about my practice, bro. Like I love to practice because I'm not a person that could sit there and look at a scheme. I need to be out there doing it i need to feel what i'm gonna get no no for sure so i go through i go through that that that whole thing man i get through the season and um we get done we lose the super bowl right so i'm sitting there and i'm like okay they're like well you know let's go ahead and do the surgery now i'm like you know let's hold off you said it's a possibility that it could retract back, whatever, da-da-da-da, right?

1:02:49So they're like, ah, well, they're about to lock us out. I don't know if you want to wait that long. And, you know, it's kind of close to the nerves that control your bowel and bladder function. I say, what that mean? Well, if it's that, you get pissed and poop on yourself.

1:03:07James Harrison:I thought it meant. I'm like, so y 'all ain't telling me this. I could have been shit on the field. Y 'all ain't telling me this back 12 weeks ago. like come on so ended up getting the surgery and here's the crazy thing it's like i know my body so well bro that i'm sitting there and i'm like seven days out of surgery and i'm like that hey something ain't right i'm still feeling a little a little something on there like oh it might be you know it might be swelling or whatever i'm like no it ain't swelling i know my body man it's not So they had me go do another MRI. He come back in. He said, yeah, we got to go back in.

1:03:48We didn't get it all. So what did they miss, Debo? They had to go up another level. He was trying to be conservative and keep as much diss in there as he could, but he couldn't. So he went back in. So I had two back surgeries in nine days and didn't do none of my therapy with the team because they locked us out. so I did all my therapy with my trainer in Arizona you know what I'm saying yeah and I do it I think that was the best thing that ever happened you want to do that he took care of you yes definitely dude definitely I know guys that had it done and I think one or two guys had it done the same year I did and neither one of them played more than two more years after that I played another seven So, you know, I did the right thing to take care of my body to make sure that I actually helped fix what was causing the issue.

1:04:44That's like a lot of guys who go and have these knee issues and they say, oh, well, you know, it's just wearing terror. Well, it ain't wearing terror. It's probably a muscle, especially when it's in your knee. It's a muscle that's somewhere in your quad, your hamstring, even in your calf. That's not firing the same. So if you fix that firing of the mechanism of the muscle, the knee now works in that same groove correctly and you don't get to wear and tear. But what they do is they treat the symptom. The symptom is that it's now not moving correctly and the symptom is now shaving off cartilage.

1:05:15So what do they do? They go in there, drain your knee or they scope it down instead of actually fixing the problem. That's a big part. Yes. Yes. Put mandates on stuff. Right. Right. So I think it's a possibility as long as he has a good team behind him that he could he could finish the year. Like I said, bearing any real, you know, catastrophic, you know, thing that would cause it to actually totally herniate or rupture.

1:05:48James Harrison:That's just man, that's that's his left tackle, making sure he don't get blown by. and Matthew Stafford's back blown. It's so easy to get that back blown out from you. I'm telling you, man, that quarterback, man, the quickest way Matthew Stafford be out of there is a blindside. So Vegas has Lamar Jackson as the top for MVP odds. Reigning MVP, Josh Allen, Joe Burrell, and their – I can't see that word. hairs beneath beyond him are plus 600 and Patrick Mahomes rounding out the top four at plus 650 oh is this the year Lamar Jackson puts it all together and not only wins the MVP but puts up the Lombardi trophy brother what do you think so you know obviously we in the north play for the Steelers.

1:06:44James Harrison:That's why I'm saying no. I'm hating. I know you're going to hate. I'm a hate. I'm from Maryland. You know what I'm saying? So honestly, this is my thing. Patrick Mahomes has so many of the rings. He's controlling the AFC North. I love him. I love Patrick Mahomes too. He's a good man. Him and Trav. But what I want is Lamar. I just don't want people to keep disrespecting Lamar's greatness. And I don't think if he doesn't get a Super Bowl ring, then people won't understand how great Lamar Jackson really is and what he's really doing in this league. So, I mean, he's going to MVP odds every season, regular season.

1:07:20James Harrison:They're going to ball out. Lamar Jackson has his legs. He's quick. He's fast. He's going to do Lamar Jackson things the whole season. And they got a solid defense, too. You think he's going to get that Lombardi this year? I thought for real it was last year. So this year I'm going to say no. I thought last year was the year they looked so good I was honestly quietly rooting I was rooting for him, I was rooting for Lamar but then last year when I was like this what happened? it just didn't happen it seemed like they getting to the playoffs and it's either health issues with guys not being there and then they just unravel I don't know what it is I don't know what's going on I don't but I ain't gonna lie I would rather anybody else win it except for Cleveland, Cincinnati, or Baltimore.

1:08:14I was,

1:08:15James Harrison:okay, I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. Bro, I'm hating. I ain't giving a lie to you, man. I think we about out of time, man. Listen. You gotta be honest. Be honest. Obviously, you don't want them to win. No question. No question, bro. No question. Listen, like I said, we about out of time, man. I want to thank you guys for joining us for this podcast of Deebo and Joe. Hit the like button. Subscribe. We'll be back. Had it on Friday. We'll be back Friday. Make sure you subscribe to Deebo and Joe or I'm going to have Deebo. Yo. I don't even know what this is, but I think that's my son's way of putting up three now.

1:08:58I told him to put it up like that, but I don't know if he listened, but this is three now. I seen it in a movie where it got a dude killed because he was supposed to put up three but he put up three like this and they knew that that wasn't the right three because that area they put up three like this so they knew he was a spy got shot up alright now y 'all have a good one we'll get back to you on Friday peace

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