In short
Best Guest Moments 2025 Part 2, featuring boxing and music/business talk. The episode includes a detailed post-fight breakdown by Lamont Roach Jr. and a conversation with Rick Ross about touring, money, and sports ownership.
Guests and backgrounds
- Lamont Roach Jr.: Professional boxer. Discusses his fight at 135 after moving up five pounds; trained for an eight-week camp and fought Tank (Shakur?—the transcript centers on “Tank”).
- Rick Ross: Rapper/entrepreneur and Miami Dolphins advocate; discusses his Millennium Tour and business philosophy.
Key claims
- Roach says the fight went “exactly how we planned,” citing familiarity with Tank’s tendencies, defensive confidence, and counterpunching (especially a southpaw lead right).
- He argues a ninth-round knee should have been ruled a knockdown, which would have changed scoring and potentially led to a unanimous decision.
- He wants an immediate rematch; rematch clause already signed; he’s aiming for July.
- Roach says he’s not worried about losing power moving up to 135 and expects to unify at 135 if champions are available.
- Rick Ross claims longevity comes from consistency and diversified ventures; he emphasizes “win big” and brand ownership.
- He says he’d buy the Dolphins if they came up for sale and would spend money on defense and a backup for Tua.
Notable examples
- Roach describes training for countering Tank’s left and dirty tactics, and notes Tank’s slow start followed by pressure later.
- Ross names Millennium Tour collaborators (including Nino Breeze) and references building wealth beyond music (e.g., “buy a piece of land”).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOInterview with Lamont Roach Jr.
2:58 to 4:26
Discussion with Lamont Roach Jr. about his recent fight and experiences.
“Fought to a majority draw Saturday night.”
Fight Strategy and Execution
4:26 to 7:33
Insights into the fight strategy and how Lamont executed his plan.
“They just, in a nutshell, they had me totally messed up.”
Fight Controversies and Rematch Talks
9:12 to 14:02
Discussion on fight controversies and the potential for a rematch.
“So, listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know, I get excited about it.”
Rematch Expectations
14:02 to 15:10
Discussion on the rematch clause and expectations for the next fight.
“So when you got a rematch clause, how long are we taking?”
Fight Strategy and Preparation
15:10 to 16:41
Exploration of fight strategy, performance reflections, and improvement.
“Hey, Chad, I don't know if you've seen me fight Saturday.”
Conditioning and Training Insights
16:41 to 18:03
Insights on conditioning, training routines, and managing weight.
“Obviously, if whatever he come with the next one, that we just got to still capitalize.”
Evaluating Fight Performance
18:03 to 20:02
Discussion on evaluating performance after a draw and learning from fights.
“Don't beat him up too bad because I need him.”
Fighter's Perspective on Draws
23:29 to 24:38
Discussion on the implications of drawing against top fighters.
“When you look at that and you say, I got a draw against the number one spectacle in America, a pound for pound talent and a guy with a 90 % knockout ratio.”
Weight Class Considerations
24:38 to 25:36
Insights on the impact of moving between weight classes in boxing.
“Are you looking to move up to maybe go 135, 140, even higher?”
Post-Fight Recovery and Training
25:36 to 27:32
Discussion on recovery time and returning to training after a fight.
“And you got to strip down 35, 30 pounds.”
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Future Fight Aspirations
27:32 to 28:00
Goals and aspirations for future fights and weight class strategy.
“if you can yeah we're gonna do eight yeah if you can if you can beat me at least four rounds.”
Discussing Lamont's Fight Plans
28:00 to 28:34
Lamont Roach shares his strategy for future fights post Tank bout.
“Okay, matter of fact, I'm going to make it easy for you.”
The Changing Landscape of Boxing
28:34 to 30:11
Discussion on how boxers today avoid tough fights and the impact on legacy.
“If you go back, if you rematch, you beat Tank at 135.”
The Value of Fighting Tough Opponents
30:11 to 31:29
Exploring the importance of taking risks in boxing and the financial implications.
“Some of the great fighters, we don't look at Ali because he lost three or four times, even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Burbank or Larry Holmes.”
Comparison to Legendary Boxers
31:29 to 33:58
Comparing modern boxers to legends like Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler.
“I think if you put on a good enough fight, no matter if you win or lose, the performance is what matters.”
Lamont's Future Fights
33:58 to 36:13
Lamont discusses his intentions for upcoming fights and competitors.
“One of the best lightweights to ever do it.”
Rick Ross Talks Tour and Business
40:45 to 42:00
Rick Ross discusses his upcoming Millennium Tour and shares business advice.
“I'm sorry we kept you up this late, boss, but we had to get you all here, man.”
Rick Ross on Financial Wisdom and Longevity
42:00 to 45:50
Learn how Rick Ross maintains financial success and longevity in business.
“This has been a legendary tour that's been going on for many years now.”
Sports Ownership Aspirations
47:10 to 49:04
Rick Ross discusses his interest in sports ownership and the Miami Dolphins.
“The Coligar test is not a replacement for colonoscopies.”
The Grind Behind Success
49:04 to 52:46
Explore the importance of perseverance and hard work in achieving success.
“I was with Dolph fan before I got drafted.”
Building a Business Empire
52:46 to 56:00
Rick Ross shares insights on transitioning from music to successful business ventures.
“So I wouldn't stop and here we are right now.”
The Power of Money in Business
56:00 to 57:20
Explore how financial success influences business dynamics and partnerships.
“yeah understand so once they understand and know you got the team they gonna let you run with it especially if you really get money that's what it's gonna come down to who gonna really prep the brand and get some money.”
Rick Ross's Car Show Passion
57:20 to 59:10
Rick Ross shares his journey and passion for cars and organizing car shows.
“And when I say the culture came out, the streets came out, The cars, the bikes, the trucks, the ladies, the hustlers, the athletes.”
Tour Excitement with Rick Ross
59:10 to 1:01:00
Rick Ross discusses the upcoming tour and his excitement for performing.
“But all of mine, you know, I usually keep.”
LeBron's Parenting and Criticism
1:01:50 to 1:04:20
Discussion on LeBron James's approach to parenting and public criticism.
“Ricky Rose, I'm going to wear me one of them big coats coming out there.”
Legacy and Family Support
1:04:20 to 1:06:30
Exploration of the James family's legacy and their handling of public scrutiny.
“But don't criticize me because of who my dad is.”
College Players and NBA Dynamics
1:06:30 to 1:10:00
Discussion on the implications of college players staying longer in school.
“Okay, man, this person deserves this job but they go hire Cuzzle over here.”
Chicago Basketball Legends
1:10:00 to 1:10:58
Explore the top five basketball players from Chicago according to Pat Bev.
“I don't know if y 'all know his name was Benji Wilson.”
Understanding Chicago's Basketball Identity
1:10:58 to 1:12:48
Discuss the nuances of being from Chicago and the significance of local players.
“He's the one who started a lot and he don't get enough credit.”
Transcript
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3:21Lamont Roach:What's up, man? I'm good, man. Thanks for having me. I feel real good.
3:26Pat Bev:No, thanks for having me. Thanks for joining us. Take us through Saturday night. You go into that fight, you move up five pounds, you're 135, you move up. And you're feeling, I mean, everybody's that man, they know he got no chance. Tank told you a couple of days earlier, hey, you're not going the distance. Y 'all shake for a little bit, 250, whatever the case may be. You go into that fight, you know Tank's a slow starter, builds up as the fight progresses, know he's trying to land, hook to the body, come up top with it. What was your process? What were you going into that fight? How did you want to fight, and did the fight turn out the way you thought it would?
4:03Lamont Roach:Well, honestly, yeah, the fight went exactly how we planned it to go, honestly. We're familiar with him. We've been familiar with him. We just knew it was a matter of time for everything to fall into play. And back to the whole everybody not giving me a shot, saying I'm going to get knocked out and all this and all that. I know what I'm capable of. I know what I could do. They just, in a nutshell, they had me totally messed up. Especially when he bet me saying he was going to stop me. What do I do? I told him himself. I said, you tripping. I said, I don't know what got into your head these last couple minutes, few days, whatever the case.
4:46Lamont Roach:You tripping. You know you're not going to do that. I don't even know why. I told him, I said, I know you know you're not going to do that. Cut it out. Yeah. Hey, listen, when you talk about you're very familiar with them, and I understand you and your team, you went into the fight with a game plan. Is the familiarity the fact that you guys probably trained together in the past or you've been in camp together in the past, you sparred together? Is that why you were so familiar? in whatever game plan your team did have and were able to execute, is that why it went so well? I mean, yeah, it's one of the many reasons why it went so well.
5:21Lamont Roach:Even though we were kids, some of them traits, characteristics, and just ways of a man grew with him. Yeah. Yes, sir. So, some of the dirty tactics, I knew that he'll revert to that when that pressure built up. When somebody that was there wasn't scared of him. When somebody was there that was there to return fire. And you know what I'm saying? He ain't been in the ring in his professional career. He hasn't been in the ring with something like that or something like the caliber of what I got. Rob Markman Right. So what I thought obviously watching the fight and when I look at all his team fights, most of the time obviously he starts slow.
6:01Lamont Roach:And then round five, six, he starts to pick it up a little bit. And by the time as he's picking it up, normally his opponent in deteriorating. The condition ain't where it's supposed to be, but I'm looking at you. They get to round six and seven, and he coming forward, and you not even moving. So at that point, y 'all mid-range, you sitting in the pocket, and most of the time, when he hits somebody, they retreat. But you took one to give one. I'm like, what ain't boy going at it? I'm like, so did the power not affect you in any way where you didn't really care? where you just sat in the pocket with him in exchange?
6:38Lamont Roach:Because most of the time, I mean, you got to be cautious. You got to be cautious because when throwing punches, you know, you got a chance to get hit, you know, when you're letting go. Did you not care at all or did you feel his power early and really wasn't worried about it? So it wasn't that I wasn't caring. I was cautious. Like you said, I was cautious. But the defense is there and the confidence was through the roof. And I got a chance. You keep a spade to spade. You know what I'm saying? I see why he knocked people out. I'm not going to say the power is overrated, but I've been in there with guys who can punch.
7:15I mean, with guys who can punch.
7:17Lamont Roach:So it was nothing new to me. I've been in there with middleweight champions. I've been in there with junior middleweight champions. I mean, as they were champion in their prime and stuff like that. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? I was confident in what I could do defensively. And if I get hit, I know I was going to give it right back. Right.
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9:12Lamont Roach:So, listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know, I get excited about it. No, go ahead. I don't mean to take over. Listen, hey, young bull, in the ninth round, you know, Javante took a knee. obviously there's some controversy behind that it wasn't ruled a knockdown by the referee I've never seen that ever and in my years of watching boxing enjoying the sport of combat sports in general did that moment impact your strategy for the remainder of the fight? I'm going to say no and let me tell you why the simple fact that he took the knee is it was really a boost because it's like alright What we're doing is working.
9:53Lamont Roach:We know that he's looking for something. It should have been a knockdown, one. That's why I'm yelling at the referee, keep counting. You're tripping. Keep counting. That's a knockdown. If y 'all didn't notice, he started to count. He started to count.
10:08Pat Bev:He did.
10:09Lamont Roach:Then he stopped. He stopped. When he resumed the action, I'm like, what you doing? Keep counting. You can't do that. so and then it wasn't even registering or processing through my mind the other rules right to the simple fact that he could have got disqualified for having his corner come up to the ring and assist him during the round or wipe his face you can't do that or he can't turn his back on like during the fight that's cause for that's that's the wave at all he took a knee and then turned around and went to the corner. Bradford usually stopped the fight. Oh, I didn't know that.
10:55Pat Bev:I'm watching you. A lot of times when people hit Tank, like Ocho was saying, they retreat. But it seemed like you had a strategy. If he hit me, I'm going to hit his ass back just as hard as many times as he hit me. I don't think he expected you to return the kind of fire that you returned because you wobbled him a couple of times. I'm not so sure that I've seen tank wobble like when you caught him a couple of times and you was getting through the guard. I mean, hey, normally a southpaw fighter, that lead right is a home run right down, and it's right down Broad Street. And you kept touching him with it.
11:25Lamont Roach:For sure. It was one of the, it was one of the many things that we trained for. Obviously, he happy-go-lucky with his left and been working for his whole career. He's been knocking these dudes out. So, you know, we've been training. We've been sitting on the left, being able to, working on countering, working on, you know, being able to block and come back. And we had some pretty fast guys and then we had some pretty strong guys that I had to, you know, switch rounds with every like, you know, every spawn session. So, you know, we was ready. We was prepared. And like you said, them dudes wasn't really, really cracking him back.
12:02Lamont Roach:And I was really throwing that fire at him. And the accuracy was really probably pissed him off too. And the fact that I was busy, it's like, all right, this ain't stopping.
12:14Pat Bev:Yeah, I thought you did an unbelievable job of keeping the pace up. Like Ochoa said, he's a guy that likes to start slow, so he has some energy reserve. So when he comes out from 5 through 12, he's like, I got a lot left. I know I ain't really spent no gas. Hey, I've just been coasting. I've been on electric mode. Now I got this fire. I got this gas in the tank. I'm finna unleash. But you met fire with fire. And I've heard Floyd say that, like, when he went into a fight, He never watched tape on the guy that he was fighting. He left that up to his corner to watch the fight and then tell him instructions.
12:48Pat Bev:He would take all that information. And then once he got into the ring, blah, blah, blah. Do you watch fight? Do you when you going against a fighter, do you watch them or you leave that up to your corner to watch and then give you an instruction on what you should do?
13:01Lamont Roach:I don't watch them a lot. I'm just so I just so happen to be a boxing fan that the fact that I do watch him fight, you know what I'm saying? I really like boxing. He's just somebody to watch. He's a spectacle. He's a knockout artist. Skilled guy. One of the pound-for-pound fighters. I like watching good fights. I do know some of his tendencies, but to study him, not really. I left it up to my dad, but one time, one day in camp, we did sit down and watch a few of his fights back-to-back. Okay. Hey, listen, Tank has publicly expressed interest, obviously, in a rematch. You want a rematch as well.
13:41Lamont Roach:Are you open to immediate rematch? Or do you have a – you don't need a tune-up, but do you have a tune-up fight just to keep yourself going? Or do y 'all run it right back? Immediate. Immediate. And just to let y 'all know, like, in my contract, immediate rematch was signed. I signed for the immediate rematch when I signed for the first fight, just in case he lost or just in case it was a draw. So they put that clause in there. They put a rematch clause in there. So I already signed a rematch clause. Okay. So when you got a rematch clause, how long are we taking? How long is the break before you start training again?
14:16Lamont Roach:Is it six months from now? It's up to the A side. It's up to the A side and when they want to fight. So I'm thinking it's going to be soon. I'm hoping it's going to be soon. Let's say that. I mean, I'm saying from a boxing standpoint, as a boxer, what is soon to you? I mean, when you say soon to me, I'm thinking a month. I know that's not going to happen. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July. I'm thinking July for sure.
14:41Pat Bev:Okay. But if I'm not mistaken, Lamont, I think I read something that he reached out to Lomachenko's side and see if they were interested. Did you read that also? Did you see that?
14:53Lamont Roach:I did see that. But you can't believe everything you see. And if it is true, you know, that would be funny. but I'm pretty sure the rematch happens and I'm pretty sure that's the next fight for both of us.
15:06Pat Bev:But let me ask you this. Would you be interested? Go ahead. I'm just, would you be interested in fighting Lomo or Teofimo Lopez? Of course.
15:13Lamont Roach:Or me? Uh-oh. Hold up, Chad. Hold up. Hold up, Chad. How about... Hey, put paws on it, Lamont. Put paws on it. Hey, Chad, I don't know if you've seen me fight Saturday. I really do this. Yeah. Hey, I would dare. I would dare. Listen, Listen, I've been studying you for years. You hear me? Okay. Listen, I don't have the time, but I can tell you your tendencies right now, round one through seven. Okay. So if we was to get in there and spar right now, I could tell you what you're going to do by looking at your feet. When you got your hand down by your hip and you step forward, you're going to faint.
15:48Lamont Roach:You know what? I ain't getting no more keys. But listen, I've been studying you. I know you. So if you want to spar at any point, if you get ready for the next fight. You're a southpaw, right? I think I said you work. You're a southpaw, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got hands.
16:01Pat Bev:He got no power, though. He got no power? He got pillows. He got pillows at the end of his arm. He ain't got no power, Lamont.
16:06Lamont Roach:Hey, Lamont, listen. No, a number of cake blows. No, no, no. Hey, Lamont, where I'm from, they call me hella hands. Yeah, they call me hella hands. But listen, reflecting on your performance, right, in that fight, bro, your game plan was phenomenal. Everything you did, you executed from round one all the way to 12. after you have a fight like that and you put on a show like that what aspects I mean like what's how many how do you improve off of that because if if you were to grade your performance that night you get an A plus yeah so what do you go back what do you go back and work on after putting on a goddamn show like that man just just just going on see my thing is I always want to get better all the time no matter if I do have a good performance or not I just go back and I watch the tape and see what he do.
17:02Lamont Roach:Obviously, if whatever he come with the next one, that we just got to still capitalize. We're going to add to what works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But we're going to add to it. We're going to build. We're going to build. We're going to build. Might try to pick it up so we can see if we can get that starbidge or not. You know what I'm saying? You never know. That's how you capitalize. That's how you capitalize. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Boy, your condition was on point, boy. Old school fighter, man. 15-round fighter over here, man. For real? For sure. I was at camp for 13, 14 rounds.
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17:35Lamont Roach:Wait. With time or no time? No, with time, for sure. With time. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Because, you know, I did 22 rounds, no clock. Chad, we're going to get you a camp. Maybe you can get me ready for the rematch. Bring me, hey, matter of fact, bring me to camp. I ain't even going to charge you. I ain't going to charge you. I give you four rounds. I let somebody else go forward and I come back for another fold. Fresh change, no robbery.
17:59Pat Bev:I like that. All right, bet. Man, Lamont, will you put pause on this, man? I got you. Don't beat him up too bad because I need him. I need him for the night count. So I don't want him to come back and talk about slurring. I don't want him to come back and talk about the champ. He's going to be all right.
18:12Lamont Roach:I think he's going to be all right.
18:15Pat Bev:Don't just give him body blows. Don't hit him on his head, Gil. Just give him body blows. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. My defense is my offense. I ain't going to get hit. Lamont, a lot of times when guys win, and they get a rematch, they're like, well, I don't have anything to improve upon, and they run into a problem. Because you had a draw, can you go back and say, you know what? In this situation here, I should have did this instead of that, and I might have been able to land something. Is that how you go back and approach the fight? Because you didn't get the win, and so you're like, well, I didn't get the win.
18:46Pat Bev:I didn't lose, technically, but I didn't win either. And I think as a fighter, you know, draws and ties, that ain't what we do it for. We want to be win. We want to be on the top spot. And because you didn't land on the top spot, you feel that, you know what, go back and watch this fight through 12 rounds. Maybe if I pick it up through the first three or four rounds, maybe that's a round or two that I win. And we don't even have this discussion at the end because it looked like they gave you round 12. Had you not won round 12, he would have wanted to say it, honestly.
19:16Lamont Roach:So to me, I thought I won the fight clearly. I thought I won a close fight. I thought I won a very competitive fight. I'm not saying I steamrolled him or whatever. But to me, I think I won a fight. Now, granted, ninth round should have been called a knockdown. Two judges on the official scorecards gave him the round 10-9. If that was a knockdown, I win the round 10-8. That's a three-point swing. I will win a unanimous decision. So you got to take all of that into account. is three ways that it's three things that could have happened in that ninth round alone with that knee. It could have been a 10-8 round, scored a knockdown.
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23:34Lamont Roach:When you look at that and you say, I got a draw against the number one spectacle in America, a pound for pound talent and a guy with a 90 % knockout ratio. You look at it and like, okay, if you got a draw, more than likely you were supposed to win that night. So even though I didn't get to win, I'm not a moral victory guy. I'm pissed that I didn't win, honestly.
24:01Pat Bev:Right, exactly. I'm pissed that I didn't win.
24:04Lamont Roach:But I really think that I should have. A lot of people think that I should have. And the rematch is just going to make it worse for him because I got to rev it up. Like you said, I got to do something. I got to do something. I got to pick it up somewhere to turn this around and make it a victory for me.
24:26Pat Bev:Lamont, you're moving up from super featherweight to lightweight. Were you afraid that moving up might rob you of some of the power? Because, you know, normally guys that move up, they lose some of the sting. Were you concerned about that? Are you going to stay? Are you going to stay in Superfeather? Are you looking to move up to maybe go 135, 140, even higher? No, no.
24:47Lamont Roach:One thing that 135 gave me is a lot more stingy. I ain't going to lie. It was five less pounds I had to lose. So, you know, I felt... So what do you normally walk around at, Lamont? Normally, I want to say, especially if I'm in the gym, no, no, no. I walk around like 150, somewhere around 150, 149 on a good day. If I'm on vacation, I don't get no higher than 55.
25:13Pat Bev:Okay. Okay. So I think that works. I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd Mayweather because Floyd is not a naturally big man. So it was easy for him to stay at 147 because Floyd only walking around it like 155 to begin with. So he go for six, eight weeks. He lose five pounds. That's his sweet spot. And that's another thing with you. It's not like you're walking around 165, 160, 165. And you got to strip down 35, 30 pounds. You only having to come down 10, maybe even 15 pounds at a max. so that's a lot that's not that's not that drastic where you see these guys have to go through this this this massive dehydration in order to make weight because it man you keep doing that flux of weight in your body man it it takes something out of you definitely take a toll on you for sure
26:02Lamont Roach:hey listen after a fight like this how much time do y 'all take off like i mean before you get back in and gradually just start building yourself back not only in the shape but just making sure you don't lose that rhythm and consistency. It's tough, man, especially how boxing is today. That's more so like a personal. So me personally, I don't like being at the gym too long. I get cussed out by my doctor because he tells me to take a break. You know what I'm saying? And I understand because your body do need to heal, rest. I've been through an eight-week training camp and then went through a hard 12-round fight.
26:40Lamont Roach:So you know, gotta get your body together, take some time I'm off because when you peak and you peak at the right time, and I think I peaked at the perfect time on Saturday night, it depletes you. So I get a little rest. I get a little rest probably like two weeks. And I want to be back in the gym. One, because I probably get too heavy and I'm like, I don't feel right. Right. You don't feel right. And I be bored. I normally be in a gym. So that's how I go. Where do you live at? I live in D.C. okay okay i'm gonna make a little trip down there man whenever you get back in the gym and um you want to start sparring i'm gonna come down there and i got i got a little i got a bad man chad i don't know i know i know i'm a bad man too that's what my teacher called me when i was i got a little bet for you right we're gonna do eight rounds right we're gonna do eight rounds if you can yeah we're gonna do eight yeah if you can if you can beat me at least four rounds.
27:42Lamont Roach:Now, you know, LeBron James, he just scored 50 ,000 points, right? He sent me the ball. If you could beat me, if you could win more rounds than me, I'd send you this ball he gave me to put up. I'm going to call my dad right now. We're going to set that up. A milestone. We're going to set that up for sure. You're going to take that ball above him. Man, that's going to be right in the trophy case. Okay. I'm going to bring the trophy case. Right on top of the belt. Okay, matter of fact, I'm going to make it easy for you. I'm only using my jab handle. Oh, man. You giving it away. Nah, I mean, listen.
28:13Lamont Roach:I can take what I'm doing. I'm still winning. That's what I do. I told you they called me Hillihan. I'm telling you, you giving the prize away. Bron ain't going to like that. Oh, nah. You ain't going to get that? You think I'm going to lose you and lose that ball? For sure.
28:27Pat Bev:The devil is alive. Hey, let me ask you this, Lamont. After the tank fight, who would you like to fight after tank? Are you going to stay? Are you going to stay? If you go back, if you rematch, you beat Tank at 135. Are you going to stay at 135 or slide back down to 130 or go up even to 140?
28:48Lamont Roach:It depends on what's available. If the champions at 35 are available, I want to fight them. I want to unify, obviously. That's good for my career. It's like legacy fights. And on top of that, they big money fights. Money. If they're not available, I would go definitely defend my title at 30 and probably try to unify there because I can make 30 comfortably. And I feel like I run that division. Like, I probably can even go undisputed if they let me. That's loud.
29:24Pat Bev:Lamar, being a student of the game, I know you heard your dad. You weren't around there. But I know your dad has told you or whomever in your corner about the Four Kings. Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Leonard, and how they fought each other. And all the top contenders in that, they fought them. You go back to the 70s, you look at the heavyweights, they fought Norton, fought Ali, he fought Frazier, he fought Shavers, he fought Ali. Nobody ducked. Why is it now, Lamont, that we have guys and they want to cherry pick and don't want to take – it seems like – And I love Floyd. But Floyd, that 50-0, because nobody wants to take an ass whipping now.
30:08Pat Bev:Because now they feel like my legacy is ruined. I lost the fight. Some of the great fighters, we don't look at Ali because he lost three or four times, even when he looked bad fighting Trevor Burbank or Larry Holmes. We don't hold that against him. We don't hold it against Leonard. We don't hold it against Hagler. We don't hold it against Hearns. We don't hold it against nobody. I don't know. And I hate that I love Floyd, and I'm glad he's undefeated. but everybody thinks now if I be undefeated, I'm going to be revered like Floyd and it's not going to happen.
30:36Lamont Roach:It ain't. Floyd is one of a kind fighter, man. He is. Even if a lot of people do go undefeated and retire undefeated, it's not going to be the same. And it's not going to be the same because Floyd put it in his work. Floyd fought them guys when he was able to and stuff like that. He fought everybody. He fought them guys. and he earned the right to fight who he wanted to, when he wanted to, whatever the case may be. That's just a once-in-a-lifetime fighter. I don't know why the guys are not – maybe I do. I'm going to give you a little scoop. These guys are worried about the money that they can make if they – Told you.
31:23Lamont Roach:If they still have an O on their record. They think that a blemish would knock down the value of whatever they have in their contract or whatever they have presented to them, which is, you know, crazy to me. I think if you put on a good enough fight, no matter if you win or lose, the performance is what matters. It's really what matters. So people want to pay to see you fight. If you fight the good fights, that's what that's what they're going to pay to see it. That's why pay-per-view numbers used to be so high because people are going to pay. They want to see certain fights. They want to see them fights.
32:03Pat Bev:Look at Mickey. Look at Mickey Ward and Arturo Gotti. That was jam-packed. Laws didn't matter. People still pay big money to see that because they know they were going to get action. But now, Lamont, guys, like, you know what? Yeah, if I fought Lamont, I can make 15 mil. But if I fight this guy that I know I can whip, I can make 10. So why take the chance for an extra five when I can get this can over here and I can whip it for 10? So I just get me a couple. I get me five or 10. I get me five or 10 of the 10 million dollar fight. Why would I need to take a risk for two of those big fights? But I don't do that.
32:39Lamont Roach:But then you got to think about that. Lamont, I told on the night we talked about this, too. Right. Not only do certain people not want to take risks, but you want to build it up until you get to the really, really good fight. So if you got like you talk about the four to four kings back then, back in the day. Right. And today, if you got the best boxes, right, and if all the best boxes fight each other right now and not have fight after fight after fight and actually build it so people want to actually watch and you can maximize your pay, that's a little different. Think about how long before Earl and Bud actually fought.
33:13Lamont Roach:Look how long it took. Look how many fights they had because they were able to build up to it. so from that standpoint I kind of get it and understand you want to maximize your pay you also nobody wants to lose but at some point they ain't going to have no choice but to fight each other but Ocho you got to understand but think about it
33:33Pat Bev:and Lamont you know this Sugar Ray went to 160 to fly Hagler He definitely did He definitely did He didn't come down they went to him
33:42Lamont Roach:and you talking about guys that's very similar
33:45Pat Bev:130, 135 They went up two classes. Sugar Ray was 147, went to 160. Hagler, Hearns was 147, went to 160.
33:55Lamont Roach:You're definitely right about that. That's middleweight. And Ray and Duran started at 35. Come on. He was that small? One of the best lightweights to ever do it. Yeah.
34:11Pat Bev:Horsehands was 135. A lot of those guys started – yes, a lot of those guys started there, Ocho. 30, 35, Floyd. 30, 35, 40, 47, and De La Hoya at 54. Yeah, oh, yeah, a lot of them guys, yeah. And had – Pacquiao's an anomaly. Pacquiao started at like 106, 112. And blew through everything. Eight-division champion. They're still knocking them out. Yeah, you're not going to see that. even when you look at Armstrong, you look at all those guys, nobody's doing this again. Nobody's going to do that. Yeah. I mean, basically, you'd have to start at, say, you'd have to start at like 140 and go to heavyweight to try to clean out everything.
34:55Pat Bev:And that ain't happening. I mean, Roy was an anomaly. Because Roy went from 60, 60, 80. 10 years straight. Middleweight, heavyweight. Roy was. if Roy had just stayed there and not stripped the muscle that he put on to go to heavy, because I think that took a lot out of him. That took too much out of him. He probably should have stayed. He probably should have never come back down or just took his time. But Roy won the title, couldn't get nobody else to fight, gave the title up and came back down. And he wasn't the same after Tarver beat him that one time. He was never the same. Because he started getting beat by fighters that Roy would have mopped the floor inside of five rounds with him.
35:38Yeah.
35:39Pat Bev:So what's next, Tank? I mean, excuse me. What's next, Lamont? What's next? After this Tank fight, you say you want to fight whoever the big money fight is? Hey, Lomo, Tiafimo, Haney, Garcia, whoever. The champs at 135 right now are Shakur, Keyshawn Davis, and Lomachenko.
36:00Lamont Roach:Okay. That's who we're going to be looking at after, you know what I'm saying, after I beat Tank. After I beat Tank in the rematch. You know, if them guys ain't available, then we gonna go to 30 and defend my 130-pound championship. So, listen, out of those three you just named, who would you prefer to fight first? If you can't get all three, if you had a preference. If I had a preference, I don't really got a preference. I would put a blindfold on and pick whichever one. It don't matter. Whatever I'm talking about, you talking to me. Whoever want this ass. Hey, tell them whoever want this ass with me.
36:34Lamont Roach:That's who I want. Who want this ass with me? For sure.
36:38Pat Bev:As a matter of fact, I tell you what. I tell you what. Lomo, you're going to get it first. So you're going to get it after I get tanked. When I get tanked, I'm going to get you at the first of the year. Hey, Shakur, I'm going to come see you in July. Hey, Keyshawn Davis. Hey, at the end of the year, on 27, I got you ass with me too.
36:55Lamont Roach:You sound good to me. You hear me? You sound real good.
37:00Pat Bev:Hey, man, I appreciate it. Congratulations. Great fight. Thank you. It wasn't the outcome that you had hoped for because you trained for eight weeks, had a great camp, and you put the time in to win. It didn't go his way, but who knows what's going to happen July, August, when the next fight come around. Wish you the best. And guess what? Come back and join us again when the fight happens and we'll see what happens after that, Lamar. Appreciate you. Will do. Thank you, man.
37:23Lamont Roach:I appreciate it. All right, Brian. I'm going to see you in D.C. No doubt. Yeah, get my contact. We'll bring you out for sure.
37:30Pat Bev:All right, man. Hey, body, because you need to talk. I don't want to, you know? Yeah, that's what I want you to do. Yeah, yeah. That's what I want you to do. That's what I want you to hear. Yeah, I got it.
37:43Lamont Roach:I'll make sure I record it, too. We'll have it on the night count. That's what I need you to do. Record it. All right, all right, all right. All right, man. Appreciate that, Labai. Have a good one, bro. All right, too. Thank y 'all.
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40:25Pat Bev:Joining us, I know it's late. I don't know if he's here in the A or he died in Miami. That's the biggest boss you ever saw. That's the homie, Ricky Rosé. What it do?
40:36Rick Ross:What it do, family? What it do, fam? What's happening? My two brothers, what it do?
40:41Lamont Roach:Bro, what they do, baby?
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40:44Rick Ross:Man, everything good, baby. You know we shining on this side.
40:47Pat Bev:Yeah, I hear you. Man, it's late. I'm sorry we kept you up this late, boss, but we had to get you all here, man. Tell us what's going on. I know the car show is in June, but you got something happening before June. Tell us all about it.
40:58Rick Ross:Most definitely. The car show June 7th, but what we kicking off tomorrow in Louisville is the Millennium Tour. You better believe it. The Millennium Tour. You know, there's a lot of stars on the tour, but what made it exciting to me It's me coming back out, bringing my new artist Nino Breeze back out to hit the stage. Trey Songz or Marion, Bow Wow, Plies, Boosie. The list goes on. Chucky, y 'all better rock with us. It's going to be special now.
41:27Pat Bev:Ron, let me ask you this. When you go in, okay, you want to go on tour. Right. How do you decide the artist that you want to be on, that you want to go on tour with you? How do you come, how do you like, okay, I want him, I want her, I want this, I want that? How do you decide that, boss?
41:42Rick Ross:Well, whenever I call the shots in this, my tour is usually somebody that I got a relationship with, gel with. And on a third act, you might want to throw something else out there just for the crowd, which would be a different vibe. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So this right here, this is the Millennium Tour. This has been a legendary tour that's been going on for many years now. and I felt it would be good for me to come hit the stage. Nino Breeze hit the stage. We do it big, close it out, put our jewels on, put our gear on, do it five way. You know how we do that thing? You know what I mean?
42:17Rick Ross:So it's going to be crazy, city to city.
42:20Lamont Roach:Listen, boss, man, we've been friends, man. We've got to be going on 20 years by now, boy. We've got to be going on 20 years, man. Listen, you've always been known. I've been known to talk to you, you know, in our own personal conversation, in your interviews, you're always dropping wisdom. For the people that are listening, what's the best financial advice you've ever received? Because you're one of the most savvy businessmen and you're very, very good with your money. Because as an artist, I don't think people understand how difficult it is. And what you've been able to do and accomplish is maintaining longevity.
42:54Lamont Roach:Not just getting it, but maintaining it long term. Man, please tell the people, man, how you've been able to do it. Because not very many, as long as rap has been around, everybody hasn't been able to maintain longevity.
43:09Rick Ross:Well, for Rosé, it's really is the consistency. You know, I got my hands in 20 different things. Everything may not win as much as others and some may not win at all. But when you win, make sure you win big. When you repping something, you hold it up high everywhere you go. That's why I love staying on tour, love going across the country, because when I go, my brands go, my teams go, and we rep all around the world, wherever we go, and that's how we do it, you know what I mean? Then when you come back home, buy you a little piece of land. They can make that car, but they can't buy that corner.
43:45Rick Ross:They got to come see you to get that corner if you own that corner.
43:50Pat Bev:That's what we talk about. But, boss, if you think about it, boss, music might have got you started. That might be your foundation. That ain't where you make the most of your money at, boss. And that's what, look at Hov. Hov might have got started in music, but Hov got a whole lot. He a billionaire because of something else.
44:09Rick Ross:It's definitely, that's what it is. The music introduced us to the world. Now you got to take it to where you want to take it to. And you got to earn it. But you got to turn it all the way up. And as long as you stay solid, keep your face clean, and you mean what you say.
44:27Pat Bev:Yeah. Boss, when I look at you and I hear you talk, man, and I like brothers that get in paper, but don't talk down about somebody else. Because a lot of times we have the propensity, Rolf, that we making a little paper or somebody make a little paper more than us that we start to feel some type of way and we try to be negative towards that paper when we got, there's an opportunity. And I told, I was telling, I was telling Ocho this the other day, 80 % of the money that's in circulation has been printed since 2020. So what that tells me, Ross, if they run out of money, they'll print some more.
44:59Pat Bev:So if your boy getting all of it, don't worry about it. Just wait a couple of days. They're going to go back to the factory. They're going to print some more for you.
45:07Rick Ross:You already know. And we're going to make sure they keep printing us some. And when it comes to us getting paper, we ain't talking down on nobody. This is for motivational purposes only. Whenever you see that jet fly in, you see that yacht pull up, that's the hard work. You see the fun times, you see the rewards, but you got to see the grind. When you come to my story every morning, you're going to hear Rosé preaching, let's go get it, let's do something new. You got to get that piss out the back of that toilet. You got to get the rust off the side of Mama House. It's 2025. We can't be bulls, man.
45:45Rick Ross:We going all the way up, man. Hey.
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47:23Lamont Roach:Hey, listen, a lot of rappers now, a lot of rappers, athletes and general athletes as well that are retired have gotten into sports ownership. You're a huge advocate for our Miami Dolphins, obviously. If the Dolphins never came up for sale, would you be interested in buying the Dolphins?
47:43Rick Ross:Without a doubt. that's without a doubt that's without a doubt and if we make that happen I'll throw in there me being a water boy you know what I mean I'll throw that in
47:59Lamont Roach:listen if you were able to be the takeover for Stephen Ross and you were able to be the GM what's the first move you'll make for your Dolphins you'll be on it
48:12Rick Ross:I'll spend some money We're going to spit out somebody. We got to get somebody else to back up Tua. We love Tua. He's an amazing person, amazing quarterback. But we just got to make sure we get somebody behind him. We're going to do some few. We're going to do a few things on the defense.
48:29Lamont Roach:Okay.
48:29Rick Ross:It's a few things we got to do. You know what I mean? For us to have that run, like y 'all was just discussing, that Lakers run.
48:35Pat Bev:Yeah.
48:36Rick Ross:We got to have the Lakers run. We need us some rings down here, and we really deserve it. As a true Dolph fan, we really frustrated, homie.
48:44Lamont Roach:Listen, it's been a long time, boy.
48:48Rick Ross:It's been a long time. And I'm talking about this past season. We was all thinking and dreaming Super Bowl.
48:54Lamont Roach:Yeah. Expectations for Hyde based on what we did last year. And for those in the chat, they're going to say, oh, you played for the Bengals. I'm from Dade County. I'm from Liberty City first. I was with Dolph fan before I got drafted.
49:09Rick Ross:You better believe it. boss let me ask you this i hope you i hope you remember that song you did at the house i may have to i may have to leave that let me know let me know let me know i'm ready
49:26Pat Bev:boss let me ask you this you were talking about the grind how you get up but it seems like people forget to grind i'm not talking about you because you know what you went through but when they see the yachts, they see the private jets, they see the whips, they like oh, he did something, but they forget what Ross did this is the byproduct, this is the finished product, but what about that 10-15 year period that y 'all didn't see Ross grinding, that y 'all didn't see that struggle, that y 'all didn't see me cleaning the cars, making$20 and do a little extra when I go get gas and put the fresh scent inside of it you didn't see that, all you see is the after, but nobody sees the struggle or wants to believe that there was a struggle in order to get to the other side.
50:08Rick Ross:Without a doubt, it most definitely was a struggle for Ricky Rosado. It was 20 years before I got on. Nobody, you know, they don't want to recognize that all the records I wrote for others. Imagine you having records that never work yet, and you walk in the club and you hear something that you wrote, and it's going crazy. But guess what? You stay down. We stay down. It's just like, yo, it's so many potential MVP players that's riding a bench. There's so many people who's sitting down mad at themselves. Oh, man, I ain't going to even go in. Nah, I got to get in the game, and I got to show everybody my value.
50:46Rick Ross:And once I get in the game, I ain't going to look back. And that's what we did.
50:51Pat Bev:I tell Locho this all the time. I said, Locho, you don't realize how much success you can have as long as you don't care who gets the credit. A lot of times, if it can't be done my way, Rosé, the hell with it. I'll blow it up. If you won't let me drive the boat, I'll sink the whole ship.
51:11Lamont Roach:It's so funny. And now that you mentioned it too, you talk about when it comes to athletes, anyone that has any type of success. A lot of people are looking for instant gratification, not understanding the process that goes into it. Anything that you get right away, it never lasts. Ross, you probably remember you told a story long time ago. I had no idea how long it took, how long you was in the game before you even saw real money. How long you had to grind and get it together and actually get it before. I don't know. You might have been maybe eight, nine, ten years in the game until you actually saw some real money as an artist.
51:52And was like, OK, OK, it's paying off.
51:56Lamont Roach:And that everybody see the finished product, you know, the jewelry, the houses, the car. and not understanding how long it even took to get to that point.
52:08Rick Ross:Oh, believe that. It most definitely took a long time. And it's like when you're doing it for love, you're doing it out of passion. Right. It won't allow you to quit.
52:18Lamont Roach:Right.
52:18Rick Ross:You got to find a way to love whatever it is you're doing. Even if you're getting up and you're shooting your content two, three in the morning, you got to get up and love it. They going to feel it in you. They going to see it in you. and that's what it was. It wouldn't allow me to quit. So after I got on, as soon as I could do my first show for$200,$300,$500, that wasn't much, but that was progress for me and it was more than enough to feed my love. So I wouldn't stop and here we are right now.
52:52Pat Bev:And that's what happens. When people ask me, Ross, man, give me some advice. I say, find something that you're passionate about because that's what's going to get you out of bed. that's going to what's going to make you focus and lock in to do what you need to do in order to get done what you need to get done find your passion don't well i think i want to do this well see the minute you tell me you think you want to do something you're not passionate about it because what you're passionate about you're going to do absolutely and and you know and you're going
53:21Rick Ross:to win and you're going to win big when you're passionate about it absolutely look forward to doing it. It's just like laying that outfit out that night before school when you put it in the brain. Yeah.
53:34Pat Bev:You got to lay the outfit out. If you don't put it out the night before, you might be rushing. You might wake up a little late, bro. You might not have the outfit, but that night before, I lay that thing out. Them Lee jeans was crispy.
53:47Rick Ross:Starch that Niagara starch on them. You put the socks in your shoes. You make sure they right there so just in case don't nothing get Hey, man. I'm ready. I'm ready. And when you get to school that next day, trust me, you're a different individual. That kind of shit's going to be priceless.
54:03Pat Bev:Man, look here. I be so clean the first day of school, if a fly light on me, I cut his throat. You ain't got no business on me. Now you know I'm too clean for you to lay your ass on me. Hey, yo. Hey, Ross, let me ask you. Like, when you started this thing, obviously everybody knew you from the music. But you weren't satisfied with that because you felt that, okay, that's my foundation. People know me for this. But you know what? Since y 'all know me, let me see if y 'all want to do business with the boss. Hey, Wingstop, get at your boy.
54:32Rick Ross:Get at your boy. Get at your man. I'm going to tell you, that's what Luke have been doing. Luke and I got around some right homies. He been eating the lemon peppers with that ranch dressing. I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you, that's what it is, man. And once I went out, I did business. Once Wingstop seen it, Chequers seen it, all the other brands, Bugatti luggage. Everybody else started falling in place. I ain't dropping the ball. We doing potato chips. Let's do noodles. Okay, we did an amazing thing with Wingstop. Let's take it to the next level. Let's create our own chicken. Let's come in this.
55:10Lamont Roach:Hey, how difficult is it for, obviously, you have to have some type of foundation, some type of background, have to have some type of success behind you. But when it comes to working with brands of that magnitude, is it difficult to get involved with them?
55:29Rick Ross:Well, after you sustain, after you establish a certain amount of success, they can't see your vision when you go down and lay out. Look, this is the idea I got. This is what I want to do. I mean it. I love it. And besides, like me, I bought my first franchise, went to my second, my third. you know they sitting back watching damn when he gonna stop he at 20 he at 25 hey man you understand so they understand my putting you know my passion how hard we went and how amazing my team was yeah understand so once they understand and know you got the team they gonna let you run with it especially if you really get money that's what it's gonna come down to who gonna really prep the brand and get some money.
56:16Rick Ross:And I did them both well.
56:18Pat Bev:Yeah, that's the color that people be looking at. You know what I mean? Yeah, black and white and all that other stuff, but they count green. People can see green. People might be colorblind, Rose. No, they are colorblind.
56:30Rick Ross:They are colorblind, but once that thing start coming, everybody get on the same page.
56:35Pat Bev:When that buttercow start blowing.
56:41Pat Bev:That's all they count. They're like, hey, give him another one.
56:45Rick Ross:Hey, where you want your next wig stop at, boss? Matter of fact, where you want your next tent at, boss? Let's go to LA and Texas, baby.
56:54Pat Bev:Hey, boss, look, we know you love cars. Let me ask you a question. How did you decide to come up with a car show? Because I know you love cars. You were telling me when I did the interview with you a couple of years ago, you told me cars have always been your passion. Right.
57:07Rick Ross:They always been my passion. I looked up one day, realized I was at close to 60, 70 cars.
57:13Pat Bev:Damn.
57:14Rick Ross:Yeah. I'm at the promised land. That was then. Yeah. I'm at the promised land. We at 250 plus acres. And I find myself looking around. Ding. Let's do this. All right. Yeah. We kicked off the very first one. And when I say the culture came out, the streets came out, The cars, the bikes, the trucks, the ladies, the hustlers, the athletes. Chad Ocho was out there riding horses all day. I'm talking about horseback riding. That's what made me think of doing the rodeo next. I'm like, yo.
57:51Lamont Roach:If you do a rodeo, I'm riding the bull.
57:57Rick Ross:Hey, you know what? I'm going to take the challenge right behind you. I'm going to get on the bull too, man. We riding the bulls. Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose.
58:07Pat Bev:Whoa, whoa, I got to stop you, Rose. Rose, I saw you on the diving board. I don't know if you can hit it. I don't know if you can hit the ground because that water, the water softened it.
58:18Rick Ross:No, I can't hit that ground. I'm going to let you go right now. I can't afford that, man. I got shows to do. We on tour, man. Yeah, you got to wait till the tour over, boss.
58:29Pat Bev:Boss, let that tour be over before you do that rodeo.
58:31Rick Ross:Listen, man, all right, all right. I ain't going to do the rodeo, Ocho. I'm going to watch. I want to make sure we got the biggest bulls out there so we can goddamn watch a real performance. I'm ready.
58:43Lamont Roach:I was at the car show. I'm supposed to be out there, you know, enjoying myself and looking at a car, looking at some ideas. Maybe if I happen to want to spend a little money. Man, I spent about three hours on my damn horses, man.
58:56Pat Bev:Hey, boss, let me ask you this. All day. Do some of those cars be for sale?
59:03Rick Ross:It's like this. I'm thinking about raffling, maybe raffling something off or maybe giving one away this year. But all of mine, you know, I usually keep. I buy cars throughout the day of the car show because there's some homies come out who's selling their cars. Right. Certain situations, I just made an offer they couldn't resist. Yeah. I done bought one for 50, quarter million. Let's go. Let's run it. 57 Bel Air convertible from the K. Yeah, you love them Bel Airs.
59:34Pat Bev:You love that 57, 55. You love them Bel-A's, boy.
59:37Rick Ross:Them 57s, them 55s. I love them 73 verts, them 7-1s. That's that Dade County vibe as well. So I love my convertibles. I love my Chevrolets. You know what I mean? That's just how I go. And if somebody bring the right Chevy, I'm going to take it off you. I'm going to take it off your hands. I'm going to offer you.
59:55Pat Bev:So you mainly a Chevy guy. You mainly a Chevy guy. You ain't really big in the Mopar or anything like that, huh?
1:00:01Rick Ross:No, I'm a Chevy guy. Then I love me the Chevys. Then the Shelbys. The Muscle. Okay.
1:00:09Pat Bev:The Cobra. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Carroll Shelby. Okay.
1:00:11Rick Ross:I rock with them in a major way. But that's how I usually go for me. And I cut it off right after that. Okay.
1:00:19Pat Bev:That 427 Cobra. You got a Cobra? Of course.
1:00:24Rick Ross:Oh, you got one, boss? Man, I had to. You know them Shelbys. I love them Shelbys. I was in one of my Shelby's today, man. I love them. I love them. I do.
1:00:37Lamont Roach:What you got, Ojo? Listen, I can't wait to... So when the tour kick off, boss?
1:00:42Rick Ross:The tour actually kicking off today. It's kicking off Louisville, Kentucky. Like I say, the lineup, next level. All the heavyweights. Omarion, Bow Wow, Trey Songz, Plies, Boosy Badass, Ricky Rose, Nino Breeze. We going all the way out. This tour, I'm going to enjoy it. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to watch the homies do their thing. I know the ladies going to be in the crowd. I'm going to come out there and hit them with hits back to back. Bah, bah, bah, bah. Nino Breeze hit them. Bah. Give them another Nino Breeze. Bah. I'm going to give them another one. Bah. You know, that's how we going to do it.
1:01:18Rick Ross:We ain't even playing.
1:01:20Pat Bev:That's loud. Hey, boss, I appreciate you staying. We appreciate you staying up. Nightcap really appreciate you staying up late. We know it's probably past your bedtime. The tour kicks off today. So, hey, bro, thank you for your time. Y 'all make sure y 'all go check out the Millennium Tour with the boss, the biggest boss you ever saw, Rick Ross, Trey Songz, Bow Wow, Plies, Boosie Badass. Nino Breezy. Nino Breezy.
1:01:45Rick Ross:Better believe it. It's going to be crazy, man. Y 'all better pull up Louisville, Kentucky. Get your tickets right now. Be there tonight. Ricky Rose, I'm going to wear me one of them big coats coming out there.
1:01:55Pat Bev:Huh? Hey, appreciate that, boss. Enjoy, man. We'll catch you down the road. Thanks for joining us.
1:02:03Rick Ross:Y 'all keep killing them, man. Y 'all number one in the streets, number one in the game, number one in the world. Don't stop, baby.
1:02:10Pat Bev:Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Appreciate that. Salute. The biggest boss. It's too easy.
1:02:17Pat Bev:I didn't get your feelings on this because, you know, the way you handled this was very, very, very perfect. you had two friends kind of get into it a little bit how that feel who that LeBron is I know that put you in a little pickle I know that put you in a pickle Pat man look here Stephen A is Stephen A LeBron felt that Stephen A crossed the line because he questioned him as a father you're not questioning Bronny's skills you're not questioning my skills you're questioning saying I'm doing damage to my son by having him play. Bro, he's the 55th player. I mean, there's only 60 players selected.
1:03:02Pat Bev:They make it seem like they took Bronny at the lottery. And plus, you have to understand, the man had a major medical issue. Give him some time to recover from that. Now, if in three years, he's still meddling around, okay, it is what it is. Maybe he's a career G-leaguer. Maybe he's a serviceable role player. But for me, once it tells me a lot for LeBron to do what he did because LeBron has swallowed a lot of stuff for 22 years. For him to approach him in a public setting during a timeout of a basketball game lets you know just how upset he was. He said what he said. Stephen A said he understood.
1:03:48Cool.
1:03:49Pat Bev:Yeah. the problem that I had with Stephen A and I told Stephen A this bro you should have left that alone once you say you understood it but when you made the rounds and you said what you said on Gills Arena and you went to other platforms and then like you added yeast to the story that's why I was out on it I mean Stephen A my guy we talk about a lot of stuff not just you know first take stuff we talk about a lot of stuff and you know he's helped me giving me some good advice and I like to think I've given him some I just wish whatever happened that Friday night or whenever it was, that would have been the end of it.
1:04:25Pat Bev:We made a good case on our pod. We made a good case. People should be judged. Case scenario. Right. Right. Talk about the talent. Right. Talk about me not being good. Talk about, like, criticize me. Right. But don't criticize me because of who my dad is. Like you say, I'm 55th pick. Ain't nobody talking about these two bum-ass motherfuckers that was number one and number two. Exactly. That's losing every game. We don't even know. Look, we talk about Bronny so much, people forget that he was the 55th pick. People forget who the first three picks were. Hell, I couldn't tell you. I mean, hardly any of the picks.
1:05:07Pat Bev:My point exactly. You feel me? So, like, when you dealing with that, right, and one thing I like about the James family, the way they take the criticism is absolutely Everybody ain't built for that, no, Pat. Remarkable.
1:05:23Lamont Roach:Yeah. Also, Pat, you know, you got to understand how long they've been in it. How long they've been in it. So really, after this long, you got to think the pressure's been on LeBron since what? Coming out of high school. He was a junior in high school.
1:05:37Pat Bev:Everybody, he burst on the scene when they put him on cover Sports Illustrated, said the chosen one. yeah so he's 40 he's 40 now he was 16 or 17 then so that's been 23 24 years for damn near a quarter century he's been in the public eye yeah so he um and so it's just like it's just like any parent if you're in a situation and you can help your child who doesn't we see these we see these CEOs and presidents and these own accompanies what did Jerry do all of his kids ain't nobody said up, well, Stephen ain't qualified. Charlotte ain't qualified. As a parent, that's what you do. You try to put your kid in the best situation.
1:06:19Pat Bev:And then it's up to him to make the best of the situation that you're in. We got the blueprint from them. That's what we got, the blueprint. Oh, man, I see these CEOs. They're doing this, man. Okay, man, this person deserves this job but they go hire Cuzzle over here. Cuzzle ain't really did nothing. They still go hire him. okay cool we sealed all that thing so let's do the same thing right i mean collectively longevity uh uh you talk about legacy wise you have to get the first the mom a lot of credit because it starts with her and it trickles all the way down right to miss savannah it trickles all the way down you have to give that family a lot of credit they've done a lot and to steal every time you see them, but them to look so royal, with so much royalty and handling themselves with so much class is really impressive, especially coming from the Black culture, especially coming from the Black culture.
1:07:18Lamont Roach:And this is how I know, not only the James class, the James family is class personified, but LeBron James as well, Pat, because you think about his accolades, his achievements, and what he's been able to do since coming out of high school, the pressure being on him, him being able to take it all this time and reaching a milestone of being the highest scoring NBA player of all time. And the fact that when he hit that 50 ,000 points, you know, in whatever game that was, I just want to show you because the rest of the chat has seen it. Some of the other people that have been on here have been able to see.
1:07:55Lamont Roach:Unc has been able to see it. You know, LeBron gifted me the 50 ,000 ball, the 50 ,000 point ball. And I just want to show it to you. Just check that out. You sure? Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
1:08:09Pat Bev:You know, I was on the Lakers when that game happened.
1:08:13Lamont Roach:Yeah, this is the ball right here. You're turning around a little bit. No, that ain't it. No, you ain't gonna do that.
1:08:21Pat Bev:No, that ain't it. I know, I ain't play with that ball. I ain't play with that ball. Yeah, I scored two that game. That ain't the ball I scored with. That ain't the ball.
1:08:33Pat Bev:Pat, what do you think about guys staying in college longer but because of NL. Oh, yeah, I don't like that. Do you think that'll help the NBA? Yeah, I don't like that. That's semi-pro. That's semi-pro. That's all that is. Right. Like, if you actually think about it and break it down, that's semi-pro. Right. And it's crazy because three years ago, everybody crying about, yeah, get the athletes. Yeah, get the college players, man. They need to get paid. I'm all with anyone doing anything you love. You can get paid to do it. Do it. I'm with it. Until it hurts the game. when I watch Auburn play it felt like it felt like and they end up losing but in the beginning of the game it felt like grown man going against teenagers right and I was a kid that had to go through college 18, 19 year old we all know who Steph Curry was in my class we all know Kevin Durant all these guys in my class you in the 06 class you took your class serious you feel me how am I still in college cooking and you in the NBA cooking and we in the same class how y 'all old in the OKC yeah and you telling me like and people wonder like man it wasn't a lot of buzzer beaters yeah cause it's grown man playing now it ain't a lot of one shining moments no more in college basketball you know how many 3-2-1 somebody shoot from half man it's semi-pro semi-pro man and it's gonna hurt the nba that's what it's gonna do it's gonna hurt them patter we're gonna get you out on this one you being a chicago native give me your top five players to come out of chicago man gotta go d rose yeah he rose that's one gotta go d rose that's that's off the top gotta go d rose i'm i'm i'm kind of different so i'm gonna go hey uh i listen i know a lot of these people your friends so what i call chicago might be kind of different than what people call chicago you know a lot of people might say they from chicago but i ain't never seen a motherfucker walk down the street you feel me so my chicago very different than a lot of people's chicago so i'm gonna start i'm gonna start with d rose right i'm gonna start with I'm going to start with Isaiah Thomas.
1:10:55Okay.
1:10:55Pat Bev:It was a guy back in the day. I don't know if y 'all know his name was Benji Wilson. Benji. Right. Simeon. He's the one who started a lot and he don't get enough credit. I'm putting him in there. Right. Now it gets, it gets kind of, it gets kind of funny. Right. It gets kind of funny. Cause you can go Michael Finley. Right. You can go Quentin Richardson, Antoine Walker. You can go right now. But I'm not. I'm going to go Will Bynum. Wow. What he did in high school was electric. I've never seen anybody. He's probably the best high school player that ever came out of Chicago. Wow. Because he averaged like 30-something.
1:11:43Pat Bev:He went to Crane. Yeah. I'm talking about I was a kid running up to the school. I'm running up to the school hoping to get in the game. Right. hoping to get in the game.
1:11:52Lamont Roach:And then I got to go... I got to go... I got to give it to him. I got to give it to... I got to give it to... It's tough, because I can go Anthony Davis. I can go D-Wade. But I'm talking about
1:12:08Pat Bev:Chicago, Chicago. So I go Anthony Davis. I go Anthony Davis. Wow. But my Chicago different, though. That's all. You feel me? like the other people that say they're from chicago it's it's a 45 minute 30 33 minute drive to them you gotta be from the south side of the west side that's all i'm saying that's all i don't want to step on nobody's toes because there's a lot of people that say they came out of chicago
1:12:37Lamont Roach:but from the west side chicago only person that i kind of know that went to the nba is me
1:12:45Pat Bev:from Chicago.
1:12:46Lamont Roach:Right, I got you. I got you. That's all.
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