Best NFL Interviews Radio Row Part 1: Ja'Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, Fred Warner, Romeo Doubs, More!

9:43Fred Warner:Yes. And I also think he was in a better offense. Yes. I'm about to say, I think that's what it more was. You know what I'm saying? I don't think it's him getting used to something because you could get bored with it over time, but I think also what's around you could make that character.

9:55Shannon Sharpe:But you can't ever, ever, ever. Professional. You could never let your circumstances dictate how you played. It was dictating how he played. Yeah, but also it's a lot more than that.

10:07Fred Warner:It's a lot more than that because everybody got their opinion on what he's doing in that locker room. You know what I'm saying? Don't nobody really know what's going on. At the end of the weekend, you're judging for somebody else. Don't nobody know what he's going through. You know what I'm saying? So you can't really look at that like that. No, I just look at him on the tape.

10:21Shannon Sharpe:I just look at him. I mean, he said it. You saw against Detroit on Thanksgiving. He has a tendency to drift. And he's not the first. I don't want people to think, well, I'm saying George Pickens is the first receiver. It happens a lot. Because what we would do with our number one receiver, we would get him involved early so we could have him late. Because why am I asking, why am I going to throw Chase the ball? I'm going to go the whole first half. And I ain't going to give Chase any catches. Then come four and quarter, hey, Chase, You ready? No, I ain't ready. I was ready in the first half.

10:53Fred Warner:T, I'm a... Hey, T, what do I say when I come back to the sideline sometimes? I'm tired of this superhero shit. Fucking take him a superhero. You know what I'm saying? So, like, some of that happens sometimes. Right, right. And like you said, you a fucking pro. Yes. And they're going to expect you to make this shit. They're giving you this money.

11:13Shannon Sharpe:They're going to expect you to make it. So what you got to do? Give it to me early. If you give it to me early, I ain't saying you got to throw me 15 balls in the first quarter. Right. But I'm saying. Three targets a quarter. That's all you need. Is it? Give me an opportunity. I just want to touch the ball. Throw me a smoke. Throw me a slant. Yeah. Throw me a jailbreak screen. Just give me something. I want to touch the ball. But y 'all want me to go. Y 'all didn't ask Michael Jordan to wait to the fourth quarter of his football.

11:37Fred Warner:It's different, though. We're not about to put basketball and football at the same time. That nigga MJ can take. That nigga can pass the ball. He going to do this in front of me. He's going to throw it. He'll be right back. I got to wait for Joe to hike the ball from the center.

11:49Shannon Sharpe:I got to run past two defenders, cut this. It's a lot more. But that's what, but see, they know how to get you the ball. When you go on the sideline and you say, leave him alone, he acting up. Zach.

12:02Fred Warner:So you're saying why they got to wait till that long. Yeah. I understand that. You know what I'm saying? Why I got to show up? Sometimes the game take you away.

12:12Romeo Doubs:You know what's funny? I think it happens all the time is I think coaches at times, they overcomplicate things. It's really easy. It's simple. There's a scheme. There are tactics. And if you want to get a player you want to get a player to ball you can get a player to ball. You can get him to ball early. Yes! You don't have to get it to him often but just to get him involved let T touch it. Let Chase touch it. Okay now I can run my offense. Yes. Now when the time comes and the defense dictates okay now we can get him the ball then allow the Florida offense to go through them.

12:43Shannon Sharpe:Hey they don't throw me the ball the whole first half and they come the first quarter. 84, what you like. I would like to get the ball in the first half. That's what I would really like. Now y 'all want me to be the offensive coordinator. Y 'all told me to stay in my place earlier. Now y 'all want me to be the offensive coordinator. Nah, I'm good. Keep spreading around. You know, we're going to spread it around, get everybody involved.

13:06Fred Warner:Go ahead and get everybody involved. I mean, we got a quarterback that want to spread it around, too. You know what I'm saying? So, like, that's why me and T get along so much. You know what I'm saying? Because we got a quarterback that's going to spread it around. Right. It's like, it's not like we're going into the game like, like it might be a game where we know I'm 100 % like, motherfucker, we feeding T. We feeding him. You know what I'm saying? You might know a couple games. Other than that, we don't have those problems. Yeah. Bro, you're not going to have to chase.

13:34Shannon Sharpe:You're going to have 23 targets in the game, Chase.

13:36Fred Warner:But listen, sometimes I don't even know that. I don't know that. T got to come to me and be like, bro. That Flacco game. Yeah, bro. He be coming to me like, bro, you know you got 15 targets? I'm like, huh? He be like, you know, I just found out how to put the iPads on. Look at the stats and shit. I be looking at my shit. Nah, so I just found that out, and he be telling me now. I don't ever know until he tell me.

13:58Shannon Sharpe:Right. So tell us, you got a podcast now, right?

14:01Fred Warner:Yeah.

14:01Shannon Sharpe:So tell us about the podcast. What you talking about?

14:03Fred Warner:Yeah, so I got a podcast called Chasing No One. We're over time, and I got T helping me star in it, so I'm going to get in a little bit of that, you know what I'm saying, try to get y 'all on. We have some topics about that. I like it. I'm going to try to be in every bit of a topic as I can. Right. So is this going to be year-round? Is this going to be an off-season thing? How do you approach it? I want to do it in season, for real. That's the biggest thing. Right. You know what I'm saying? I want to try to give one episode during the week. Oh, okay, okay. That's not bad. But I'm not going to push it.

14:30Fred Warner:Tuesdays. Tuesdays. Bingo. You know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got it. I got it scheduled out. That's my goal, though. Right. I'm going to get it during the season because that's more of like I get – now they see how I'm thinking during the season. Yes. You know what I'm saying? What I got to say about the games. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of questions are going to be about what's coming up for my game, which I'm going to try not to answer. Right. But that's the part that I want to show the fans, you know what I'm saying, also from T. Is it going to be live or is it going to be taped? It's some live, some taped.

14:55Fred Warner:You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I'm going to try to stream from Twitch. Right now I'm live on Twitch. Right. I'm doing that to help it out so it's going to be combined with overtime.

15:03Shannon Sharpe:Right. So is it just going to be about that, or are you going to let them see your day-to-day life? Okay, guys, we're going to work out. Here I'm going to eat. Here I am, Chase and I. Tia and I, we playing games. We playing FIFA. We playing Madden. Yeah.

15:17Fred Warner:So my Twitch is really for, like, day in the life of behind the scenes. You know what I'm saying? So the camera follow me everywhere. Okay. And then a podcast is like me talking about your football life. Football life. You know what I'm saying? And now they're seeing two different perspectives. And I also do a YouTube channel, too. I got a YouTube where I drop videos. T has one, too. So, you know, I just showing off, you know, behind the scenes of a lifestyle, of an everyday lifestyle. Right. Because a lot of people want to know and ask questions about stuff like that. Right.

15:42Shannon Sharpe:I like it. I like it. How did you guys become so close? Because it seems like you guys are like, like, you guys are almost like brothers. I mean, you guys are, like, really close. Y 'all do a lot of things together. I see you guys in Miami. I think y 'all purchased. Y 'all got cars. Yeah. Somebody got a McLaren. Somebody got a Lambo. and then, you know, you guys – I mean, how did you guys become so close?

16:06Fred Warner:I feel like, you know, that first year, you know what I'm saying, preseason he come in, you know what I'm saying, he took a year off, he dropping balls. I go to the cereal course, I'm like, Troy, man, I don't know, man. I don't know about this kid, you know what I mean? But then, man, you know, just working together, man. Seeing each other every day, you know what I'm saying, the bond just got closer and closer, and it was just no-brainer.

16:29Romeo Doubs:The offseason is here now. Obviously, what are you guys doing this offseason away from the game of football?

16:36Fred Warner:Me? You know what I'm saying? I'm down in Florida enjoying the weather, man. I'm trying to stay away from the cold.

16:40Romeo Doubs:Oh, so you're down in the street. Stay away from the cold, but we just had – it was 40 degrees out of the day.

16:44Fred Warner:I was here.

16:47Romeo Doubs:What are you doing? What are you doing this offseason? Before you get back in the groove of working out.

16:51Fred Warner:Really, I'm just – you know, I got the podcast going. I'm trying to do the twist. I'm trying to do a little more off-the-field stuff, trying to get my off-the-field stuff going for me. You're about to build your brand. Yeah, building the brand up. So that's the biggest thing I want to do first. And then, you know, I'm into the fashion stuff, so I'm going to try to go to, like, Paris. I'm a line for the fashion world.

17:08Shannon Sharpe:You want to do a fashion line, or you just, like, obviously, is that something you're interested in?

17:13Fred Warner:I mean, since you want to say that, Fabletics. Yes. You know what I'm saying? I'm with Fabletics. You know what I'm saying? This is my thing. So I'm coming out with, right now, I already have a drop right now for the 2026 year. I already dropped the line. and then I'm going to drop another line after that in 2027, try to come a little more cozy or fit, a little more swag style with it. Can I get a package? Yeah, I'm doubling and dabbling a lot right now. I'm trying to all that. Can I get a package? I got you. You know, I'm in the fashion too. That's easy.

17:41Shannon Sharpe:Just send me the size and the way it's going. I'm a large. I'm a large. What is it about fashion? Because you see a lot of NFL players. It wasn't like that when I played. It wasn't. Guys come with cover all blue, you know, flip-flops and everything. And you see guys now a little bit more fashion forward. They're wearing more of the designer. They're more focused and more conscious of their looks. What do you think? What contributed to that? And why is that important to you two?

18:08Fred Warner:Well, me, I'm cool laid back. I'm throwing on sweats, t-shirts, black forces, and I'm cool. You know what I mean? But I dib in and dab a little bit in fashion. I don't really take it too serious. You take it serious. Yeah, I take it serious. You take it very serious. Yeah, I take it serious. Like he said, I could mix it up. The thing about me, I don't care about being judged if I'm coming in real baggy jeans, you know what I'm saying? Oversized, stuff like that. Because I know it's really the appearance and how I am as a person that's what's going to give off, you know what I'm saying? And my clothes just make me feel better about my character when I'm talking at the end of the day.

18:47Fred Warner:And that's what's going to give me that edge on my swag on how confident I am when I walk into an office and I'm talking about Fabletics. You know what I'm saying? That's just how my mind is going to work about it. And over time, I just got around more fashion world and just how it works. I just started to like it over time. You know what I'm saying? And I started at a young age stealing my brother's clothes out of his closet and making my own swag. You know what I'm saying? So I've always been a clotheshead. It's just now that I have more access to it, I can do what I want.

19:14Shannon Sharpe:And plus the thing is you're the right side. See, a big old N-word like me, I'm sorry.

19:19Fred Warner:See, that's the thing with me too, man. I might go shopping for some pants.

19:22Romeo Doubs:Right.

19:23Fred Warner:I might think the pants look crazy, but then I try to own. They coming up here. I'm not trying to wear no high waters. Right, right. I think about y 'all. Y 'all got the custom stuff. That's the best thing.

19:33Shannon Sharpe:No, it ain't the best thing. No. I want to go get it up. Oh, I like this. Off the rack. Exactly. Cut off the rack. That's what I want to do. Big and tall. Congratulations. Great season. Hell of a season. Congratulations, Chase. Great season. Continued success, man. Hey, team success is where it at. You want to build that brand? Win. Amen. Man, that's his first all day. For sure. Appreciate you, man. Thank you for coming on. Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, thank you, guys. Appreciate you. 2025, he had 55 receptions, 724 yards and six touchdowns.

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23:06Shannon Sharpe:He is an unrestricted free agent this offseason. He is Romeo Dobbs. Romeo, how you doing, bro? What's up, boy?

23:12Fred Warner:Man, I'm good, man. I'm blessed. I'm breathing, walking. All the little goodies, man. That's all I need.

23:16Romeo Doubs:I got a question. Why you keep wearing that ugly-ass guardian cap? Hey, yo, hey. I'm tender-headed. Better safe than sorry, man. I got you. I got you. Listen, unrestricted free agent, right? Yeah. What you've done for the Packers, every time we watch a Packers game, it's 87 cutting up. You are the safety valve. You are the, what's the word I want to look for? The outlet for brother Jordan Love.

23:44Fred Warner:Yes, sir. What do you want to do? Man, I want to go back. I want to go back. And I love Green Bay. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? I love the structure. I love the coaching staff. I love how they go about things, man. And, you know, the rest, I'm going to just leave that unknown because I know, you know, I'm new to this game. I don't know what to expect. But I am aware of this business. I understand the situation in our room and what's going on, man.

24:12Romeo Doubs:So, yeah, that's pretty much all I got for. With this business, I'm not blind. I'm not Ray Charles. But I understand your value. You understand your value. I know what you deserve. I know what you can get there, and I know what you can get elsewhere. Yes, sir. I'm going to leave it at that because I don't want to get you in no trouble saying the wrong things. But go ahead, Arnold.

24:31Shannon Sharpe:Romeo, you guys in the division game, you went off. You had eight for a buck, 24. You get out to that great lead. What happened? How did you let that game get away from you guys?

24:43Fred Warner:Look, man, I'm still questioning that now. You know, and, you know, we all know it's not easy losing in this league, especially in games like that. But to be very optimistic about this, it was very clear that Chicago had the better game plan. You know what I'm saying? The energy was right. Whatever they had going on, they were aligned. And there's absolutely nothing I can do at this point. You know, kudos to them. And, again, that just gives me an opportunity to review that, not even just that game, but just throughout the course of the year and just build off that moving forward. You know what?

25:24Shannon Sharpe:It wasn't so much the last game because you did lose the final game of the season. And a playoff game is different than a regular season game because there's finality to it. But you lost your last four regular season games. So it wasn't like you were going into the playoffs on a high note. What transpired over the last quarter of the season that you, like, kind of got away from you guys?

25:44Fred Warner:I don't know. I don't know. I really don't know. And I know there is some answers that must be said right now. Yes, sir. But, yeah, man, I have no idea what went wrong. But it was very clear that to lose like that, something went wrong. And, again, I'm in the midst of, you know what I mean, still. Trying to figure it out. I'm trying to deal with it. There was a lot of – last offseason, Josh Jacobs talked about the receiver room,

26:18Shannon Sharpe:saying we need a number one, we need a dog. They got one. And I'm sure you and Christian Watson and some of those other guys and Reed, y 'all didn't take too kindly to that. What you mean we need a number one? What you mean we need a dog? You don't see us every day?

26:32Fred Warner:Look, man, I love Josh. I was just rapping with him. You know what I'm saying? Just before we took off. But, again, man, it's just, you know, just the situation, bro. Like. When you lose like that. Yeah, it's just. It's difficult. It's difficult. It's very, bro. Yeah. Like some of these things, better left unsaid. Yes. To be completely honest about that. Right. but yeah, bro, it's just.

27:00Shannon Sharpe:Especially if you got to go back in that locker room, because y 'all were looking at him sideways.

27:04Fred Warner:No, no, no, no. Okay, well, not me, because, you know, I don't like to think in that manner. Right. Because I know when something is said like that, it is very easy to take it that way. Correct. Right. So, you know, I never really, and again, I know what's in the past stays in the past. I've never been, I never spoke to him about that. All we did was have great practices together, watch some tape together, go out, go bowling, whatever the case may be, bro. But that is not a lane you want to create. So I'm doing it.

27:37Romeo Doubs:I got a question. Because, I mean, you're answering. Obviously, you want to be careful. You want to be PC. You don't want to piss anybody off, especially during the time that you're in. You're in a special place where life can change. Potential employer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you want to go back? You had an Instagram post that almost it was deemed like almost like a farewell to Green Bay. If you had it your way, would you love to go back to a team like the Packers where any given Sunday, you don't know who day is going to be? Or would you like to go somewhere where you could be the dominant number one receiver and you know that offense runs directly through you?

28:14Fred Warner:That's a great question, bro.

28:20Fred Warner:If I'm being honest, I would love, man. Take your time. Yeah. Being around them guys, bro. Yeah. I would love to be around them. I would love to be around them, bro. Yes, sir. And it was just the foundation that I feel like we set in that room. You know, we come in as young guys, you know what I mean? and not only did we understand that the situation was very unusual, like you get into a league, you get into the league, right? Yes. You got to get a guy like Stephon Diggs. You got to get a guy like yourself or you that, you know what I'm saying, went through those ropes. But when you get year one, year two, year three guys all together, growing together, I think there's beauty in that, bro.

29:04Fred Warner:Yes.

29:04Shannon Sharpe:You know how this thing works. Yes, sir. There's a pie. Yes, sir. There's only so many slices in that pie. No matter how delicious that pie is, there's only so many slices to go around. Somebody eat it. You might get a little small piece or you might get a big piece, or I might have to leave and get the piece that I've earned based on what I've done in this league over the last three, four, five years.

29:29Romeo Doubs:Yes, sir. And you deserve, I know you don't want to say it. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to talk for you. I'm going to be at my piece. You deserve the biggest piece of that pie because I understand what you can and can't do. And obviously there ain't no goddamn can't because I've watched you over the years. I understand the value that you bring to the Packers. I understand the value that you bring to another team if you're afforded the opportunity to go somewhere else. Yes, sir. Since you don't want to say it, I'll say it for you. And I appreciate you. You that nigger. My bad. But I will say this.

29:58Fred Warner:No, we good, man. Way to be authentic, bro. Yeah. I will say this.

30:03Shannon Sharpe:I would like to see a little better concentration because I've seen you make some. How the hell did he catch that? And then they throw you a smoke rod and you drop it. I just need to see that concentration level because I know it's there because I've seen you make the plays game in and game out. And I've seen you go stretches where you have three, four, five games. And I was like, okay, this guy is trending. He's a top ten receiver. And then I'll see you drop a routine stuff. And it seems to carry over. It's like you drop one and you don't let it go. It's like you're still thinking about that play the next play.

30:33Shannon Sharpe:And I would like to see you move past that to reach that ultimate goal because that's what the great ones can do. They can make a mistake, they can drop a pass, and it's over just like that.

30:42Fred Warner:I appreciate that. That is very much noted. Very much noted.

30:46Shannon Sharpe:So, Romeo, Green Bay Packers wide receiver. We don't know for how much longer, but he says he wants to return. He had an unbelievable season, his best season thus far as a pro. He finished the year. Hold on. Let me get back to his numbers.

30:58Romeo Doubs:Who's our owner?

30:59Shannon Sharpe:Eight for 124. That's a bunch of owners. Okay. Eight catches for$1.24 and a touchdown. That was in the wild card round. 55 catches, 724 yards, and six touchdowns. When he's having to divvy up a lot of plays and a lot of routes to other receivers. But, bro, great season. Keep your head up no matter what. Don't fall in love with a destination. Yes, sir. Don't fall in love with a destination. They'll use that against you.

31:27Romeo Doubs:Oh, yeah.

31:29Shannon Sharpe:They'll use that against you. I was just saying, don't fall in love with a destination. Man.

31:38Shannon Sharpe:So appreciate you, Romeo. Thank you, man. Take care. Enjoy the rest. Enjoy your week. You promoting anything or you just here?

31:43Fred Warner:I'm just, I'm here doing media. Okay. Here to speak for you. I got you. Appreciate you, bro. Have a great day.

31:49Romeo Doubs:Make sure y 'all give me that blank check over there.

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34:50Romeo Doubs:What are we talking about? That's right. What are we talking about?

34:53Tee Higgins:Y 'all tell me, man, what are we talking about?

34:55Shannon Sharpe:One of the greatest. Yeah. You suffered that broken and dislocated ankle in week six. Right. How's the recovery going? Because they showed some tape, and I thought they did a great job of not like, look, come on. Yeah, we could probably, but he's not going to be Fred, and let's not run the risk of doing any further damage. Let's give him a full offseason. So when we come back for training camp or we come back for those OTAs, he's looking like the Fred Warner that we know he's supposed to look like.

35:21Tee Higgins:Yeah, I mean, it's one of those injuries, right? Like, I remember all throughout my career, I've seen that happen to a couple cats, like Dak Prescott, for example. I think he had that nasty one who was at home, right? Yeah. And it's kind of one of those ones that's like a fear of yours. Like, you don't ever want to go through something like that because it just looked nasty. Right. And so when I'm in the moment and I feel this boom hit down my leg and I'm on the ground, I look at my stuff and it's pointing in the opposite direction. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, immediate shock went through my body, right?

35:44Tee Higgins:And so it is one of those things, though, and I am blessed that once they put it together and you start rehabbing and kind of getting the healing process going, you bounce back really quick. So the fact that I even had the opportunity to return to practice during the playoffs, only three months removed from that, speaks to everything you need to know. It's just unbelievable.

36:02Romeo Doubs:You know, you have the resources, you have the access to some of the best technology to be able to come back much faster than others as opposed to when we were playing. It was kind of different. How do you feel now in the rehab process when you're on the field? Do you have your lateral movement, your explosion? Is it all there? Do you have the flexibility, everything?

36:19Tee Higgins:Everything. And it's only going to get better as time goes on, right? It's just one of those things that it's your new reality. Like if you go beat it up, you deal with like the little swelling that kind of gets in there a little bit, the soreness, right? But as you keep going, man, you build that thing up from the ground up and do the things right. I think you mentioned it perfectly, like all the resources that I got now. Yes. I'm super blessed and happy that it happened later in my career where I have all these resources, all these relationships I've built up throughout my career. So now when it happened, it's like I'm calling this person.

36:46Tee Higgins:I'm texting this person. Okay, boom, boom, boom. We got a plan together. You know, I felt horrible for old Cam Scadaboo. It was like two weeks after I did mine. He go and do his. And then, oh, Judkins with the Browns. He had the same. I'm like, man, these guys are rookies that are just barely starting their career. They got to go through something like this. But those type of setbacks, man, it only make for a greater story when you do come back.

37:06Romeo Doubs:Go ahead. I'm going to say one question. Before I talk about the defense and what you guys with the high of Raheem, and everything. Yeah. What do you think about the noise and the talk and the conversations about the injuries that constantly happen to you guys, much more than any NFL team because of the plant that happens to be close to the training facility? Your thoughts, honestly.

37:25Tee Higgins:No, I mean, if I'm being honest, I think it's a little silly. I will say. Thank you. The substation, the thing about it is it's been there for decades. Like, this ain't something that they just built up there the last five years or ten years that Kyle had his team here. they've been practicing over at that substation forever. And now to say, is there something to it? I don't know. There's not enough research that's been done. And I think that's something that they'll maybe look into more. But, you know, the game of football, y 'all know, it's a violent game. And is a substation attributing to me breaking my ankle in half?

37:57Tee Higgins:No. You know, it's like there's this stuff that you just can't really overcome. Yes. And we do have an older roster. So, like, a lot of our star players, quote, unquote, and guys that you pay a lot of money to, like, when you're older, You're more susceptible to little things like hammies and all these little things. So, yeah, man, I mean, at the end of the day, we've got to always continue to find ways to be better health-wise because when we are healthy, we in that big game that they're playing this Sunday.

38:20Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. Yeah. This might be a blessing in disguise because you say as you get older, you've got a year and a half. You've got a full year off. You've got to be fresh right now. You have Raheem, and I don't know if he was there with you at any point in time you've had cross paths with Raheem, But Kyle and Raheem go way, way back. They were both on the Washington staff together when Kyle was calling plays for his dad. And Raheem, I think, was the DB coach back then. So what is your expectations about this defense? You finally got Robert Sala back last year. You had D 'Amico and you had some of your best years under D 'Amico.

38:54Shannon Sharpe:So what can you expect from Raheem to bring to this defense? You get Bosa back. You get some of those guys back that were injured, yourself included. So what can you expect from this defense? What can 49er fans expect from the 49ers moving forward?

39:08Tee Higgins:The expectation is always dominance. That's all that my expectation always is, and it's always been that since we've been here. You mentioned that Kosala, D 'Amico, guys have built up this top five defense year in and year out, and that's the standard now, right? And we're just trying to give ourselves the best chance to win a Super Bowl. And in my opinion, man, defense wins championships. So I think if we can build up a dominant group to help give us a chance to do that, I think Raheem is the best person for the job. I only hear glowing things about him from everywhere that he's been. His players love him, staff, coaches, everybody has loved him wherever he's gone.

39:39Tee Higgins:So I know he'll do a fantastic job.

39:41Shannon Sharpe:Talk about this Super Bowl. You know this team, you're familiar with one team. That's right. 13-3 the last game of the season. You didn't play in that game, and then you go out there, and then they do a great job. They run the opening kickoff back. And for the most part, the game was really never close after that. And you guys are going to have to step up because the Rams are in that division, and they lost the NFC championship game. The team that they lost to is here in the Super Bowl. Talk about the Seattle and the jump that they made from one year to the next. It seemed like they got better defensively.

40:09Shannon Sharpe:It seemed like they got better offensively. That Sam Darnold is like, oh, my goodness.

40:14Tee Higgins:Yeah. No, I mean, they've done a really good job. You've got to tip your cap. Of course, I don't like any of the division rivals, and that's understood, right, Seattle? It don't even matter if you're the Cardinals. You beat up this year. It's still what it is. Like, we just don't like you. But you've got to tip your cap when teams play a certain style of ball that you respect. And that's Seattle. Mike McDonald, the thing that he's instilled in their culture and the standard of play, you see it on every phase of their team, offense, defense, special teams. They're going to play physical. They're going to play a style of ball where they're relentless.

40:46Tee Higgins:And they've done a great job through the draft building up. And you have these young star players in like a JSN and a Devon Witherspoon that you can lean on while also adding in free agents like Sam Darnold to be your franchise quarterback. You pick up Rashid Shahid on the trade. Ernest Jones the fourth. Ernest Jones. You talk about DeMarco Lawrence. They loaded up their roster with the type of guys not only that are playmakers but guys that fit that way of play that they're doing.

41:13Romeo Doubs:You talked about the standard, the standard in which you guys play at, right? And I think about the division, which was the toughest division during my time. It was AFC North. The toughest division in today's game is the NFC West. It's not even close. Do you like that challenge every year, or do you feel you're at somewhat of a disadvantage because of that?

41:35Tee Higgins:No, I love the challenge because at the end of the day, first of all, I don't feel like we should be measuring ourselves up against Seattle or the Rams. No, you measure up yourself against the 49ers because at the end of the day, we are a franchise of Super Bowls. Five-time Super Bowl champs. Five-time Super Bowl champs. So the moment I stepped into that building, I knew what time it was. It's like you see them five Super Bowl trophies in the trophy case, and this is what the standard is. So we measure ourselves to that standard, which is winning Super Bowls. And so anytime we don't do that, it unfortunately is a failure.

42:02Tee Higgins:Now, was this past season a complete failure? No, you can't really say that because the things that we dealt with were real and the things that we had to overcome. And a lot of young players coming in, playing meaningful minutes, that's only going to help us to what we're trying to do next season.

42:15Romeo Doubs:Do you think the naysayers can now be quiet and has Brock Purdy done enough to keep everybody shush?

42:22Tee Higgins:They'll never be quiet. You know why? Because he was the last pick in the draft. And that's exactly why they'll never see you as anything but that. They'll never see you as anything but that. It doesn't matter. He won a Super Bowl MVP. He won multiple MVPs of this league. They're always going to say, yeah, but. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. And so, in my mind, he's by far the best quarterback in this game. I like it. Because of what he's able to do on that field.

42:46Shannon Sharpe:Okay. He does. I love the fact that Matt Jones was able to keep you guys afloat while Purdy was doing what he's done. and you bring him back. People don't realize it, but at that position, if you don't have an adequate backup, your season can jump off or go off a cliff. Right off the rails. As soon as the starter goes down, you're like, damn. And you know. I do know. I mean, you say everything publicly. Oh, yeah, we're going to keep the thing rolling. We got such and such. But if you don't really have that guy, it's over.

43:13Tee Higgins:You see, unfortunately for Denver, you got Bo Nix. He breaks his ankle, and then they got to rely on Jarrett Stidham, who I think is a good quarterback. But he hasn't played. He hasn't played in two years. Right. So then you're relying on him in a snowstorm to go win you an AFC championship. It's tough, right? Like the backup don't get the amount of reps that a starter does. And the starter is a starter for a reason.

43:31Shannon Sharpe:Yep. All pro. Pro bowler. The best middle linebacker in football. In the game. Here he is. I appreciate it. Fred Warner.

43:38Tee Higgins:Yeah, thank you. Appreciate you, bro. I'm here on behalf of Experian, by the way, man. Let's help you save time and money. And credit. I like it. What's my credit? You check your credit score on the app as well, man. Hey, can you help me?

43:47Romeo Doubs:Since you a part of the experience, my credit score is like a 650.

43:49Tee Higgins:I know you like to save money now. Experience helps you save that and time.

43:53Romeo Doubs:I got you. I got you. Yes, sir.

43:55Tee Higgins:Appreciate you, boy. Appreciate that, friend. Thank you, man.

44:01Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate you, bro. Have a good one, man.

44:03Romeo Doubs:Hey, get you some McDonald's. That shit heal up faster, boy.

44:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, there you go. Don't do that, friend. Don't do that. We done got older, friend. We can't process it like we want to do it. Kamaru, you played against both teams. The Seahawks and the Patriots. You got to put some money that matters to you. Who are you taking in the game? Seahawks. You taking the Seahawks? Yes, sir. What is it about the Seahawks that left the impression that, you know what, I understand both teams are more than worthy of being here. Both teams have earned and deserve the right to be here. What is it about the Seahawks that tends you, that makes you think that they have the edge in this ballgame?

44:41Shannon Sharpe:They're just more dangerous.

44:42Fred Warner:You know, the Patriots, they're good, but the Seahawks are very dangerous. Like, at every level on both sides of the ball,

44:48Shannon Sharpe:like, there's a play that's waiting to be made. They can run, obviously, with K-9 running the football. J-S-N, I mean, the way he, the effortlessness in which he runs, he's like, he's just floating. He gives you no tales on when he's going to break in or break out or who he's going to keep straight ahead. What is it that you like about his game? Because you covered a lot of receivers. You get the ones, you get the twos, and you've seen a lot of receivers over 18 weeks, over 19, excuse me, 20 weeks of the season. What is it about JSN that makes him so special and so unique?

45:21Fred Warner:He's very fluid, I would say. You know what I'm saying? Like you just said, he doesn't give many tells. And I can see a lot of tells, but he doesn't give them often. And I think that's what kind of just separates his game. You know, he's able to make every catch and run every route. And he's able to go different places within the offense. And they move him around a lot, and he's able to make the plays.

45:38Romeo Doubs:Hey, listen, I've talked about you tremendously. Damn near every week. I'm sure you've heard some of the things I've said about you because I love exceptional DB play. Appreciate it. Your teammates, they call you crazy. Your teammates, they call you a lunatic because of your style of play, loving to play man-to-man. Does it surprise receivers with your style of play? And have you had any difficulties with anybody that just stands out to you from the receiver position? never had no difficulties.

46:08Fred Warner:I feel like every time I step on the field, it's either good bump or I did something wrong. Every time I lose a rep, I feel like I did something wrong. I don't feel like people just go out there and beat me. I feel like there's something that I either stepped wrong, I wasn't locked in. That's just how I feel. That's how I grade myself. I feel like I'm here to step with anybody. I don't think that it's crazy. I just think that I just think differently. I'm just wired differently. I got everything. I'm here out the mud. I just I just feel like whenever I go out somewhere, I'm putting my best foot down every time.

46:39Romeo Doubs:Yeah, and it showed from a rookie last year. It showed. I'm telling him how many times I've talked about it. It's his style of play. And we always talk about Stingley, Stingley, Stingley. But hold on now. We're all tripping. Hold on now. We got somebody just as good that brings just as much value at the position at the third level on the other side. And I appreciate your work. Thank you.

47:00Shannon Sharpe:But you understand, because you have Stingley on the other side, they're going to try you. Oh, yeah, and I love it.

47:06Fred Warner:Sting, look, I tell Sting all the time. I was just talking to him yesterday, and I'm like, Sting, bro, I fuck with you, dog. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, you one-on-one, and that helps me be one-on-one because they not going at you. They think I'm sweet. They think you're weak. I think I'm sweet. You know what I'm saying? On the other side.

47:21Shannon Sharpe:Let's go to the other side. Try it. Hey, look here. When you're trying to go into someone's house, you talk. Oh, that's locked. Yeah. That was locked. Oh, let me go. Let me skip on this one. Yeah. Because you on the other side. Yes, sir. defense. You guys are a physical defense at every level. You got Algier and you got Totolo and the DBs, Petrie. Bro, y 'all are a physical defense. What is your mentality? When D 'Amico got there, what was your guys' mentality? It was like, okay, let's lock in because looking at you guys in OTAs and look at you guys in training camps, we have an opportunity to be special.

48:02Fred Warner:Yeah, I'm not gonna lie from the moment I got drafted here. I was like, dang, this is a good defense. Last year, we kind of gelled together. This year, we already had a year up under our belt. I mean, like you said, you look all three levels on the back end. You got CB, me, Petridge, Sting. Then you got Hendog. You got Z's. Then on our line, come on, you didn't even say nothing about Will. Will and Daniil. You didn't say nothing about Will and Daniil. Y 'all got Rankin.

48:26Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all got Sam Jr. Real, Tim.

48:29Fred Warner:We got a lot of people and we're just ticking time bombs. There's a play waiting to be made every single time we step on the field. So it's just fun going out there. Like, I knew as soon as we stepped on the field this year for OTAs, I'm like, oh, yeah, we're going to be one of them once.

48:40Romeo Doubs:How has D 'Amico Ryans helped you as a player evolve and get better this early in your career, you think? He's helped me a lot.

48:49Fred Warner:He just pushes me. Like, I feel like I respect Coach a lot because he drafted me, obviously. So I feel like there's a level of belief that he had in me from the jump. And he just continued to push me. He just wants me to be better. He wants me like this year. He's like, you had a good year, but I need you to go ahead and go to another level. Yeah, so it's just like he said that last year. He's like, okay, you had a good year. Now let's go to this level. So I just feel like the more that you push me, like the more you put on my plate,

49:15Romeo Doubs:I'm ready to eat. You know what I'm saying? Put your GM hat on. Okay. You're the GM of the Houston Texans. What is it that you guys need to do to get over the hump? To me, from the outside looking in, defensively, they don't get no better than that. What do you think y 'all guys need to do to get over the hump so you can be in a situation like the Seahawks and the Patriots are? I'm trying to set me up. Oh, no, no, no. You can answer PC. That's all. That's why I said put the GM hat on. GM, I think what we need to do, we got everything.

49:47Fred Warner:We have everybody. We just, I think depth because, you know, injuries happen. Absolutely. You know, injuries derail a lot of teams. So I feel like depth will be that you can never have too much depth. And I just feel like you just got to make the plays. Yeah.

50:03Shannon Sharpe:Because you saw it when CJ went down. Your quarterback kept you afloat. Of course. Because a lot of times we just saw it and Fred was on here and we saw with the Broncos. Their quarterback goes down and you need your quarterback to come in in one game. Yeah. And that's the difference because the margin of the NFL of winning and losing is so small because everybody at that level at one point in time was all state, all American, all world, all this, all that. So it's not like it's Georgia playing TCU. It ain't one of those situations. You know, when I first got to the league, a guy told me, he said, Shannon, every guy that's in the NFL can make every other guy in the NFL look foolish.

50:48Shannon Sharpe:Of course. If you just look at somebody and talk about where they were drafted in the seventh round, or they this or they that, the best, the worst receiver on a given day can make the best DB look foolish. Of course. And y 'all know how it is. Like, the margin for error is so small, like you said.

51:04Fred Warner:And it's like, that's where the ball is down to making the plays. But it takes so much to be able to make the play. You got to be in the right position. You got to be able to do a lot of stuff. And it's just, we just got to lock in on the details, man.

51:14Shannon Sharpe:Man, unbelievable season, man. Best of luck. Great season. Appreciate y 'all. Don't get satisfied. Oh, no. Don't get satisfied. All right. Continue to eat. Yes, sir. Overeat. Yes, sir.

51:23Romeo Doubs:Yeah. Hey, I want some of that work, too, bro. Look, I ain't running. Hey, I want some of that work.

51:28Fred Warner:Look, look, I've been waiting to get up with you for a long time. Oh, come on. You sure? Look, back in the day. Uh-huh. Talk to me. They used to call. Like, around the way, they used to be like, you look like little Ocho. Oh, what? Yeah. They used to say that. They used to say that. Yeah? Yeah, they used to say that.

51:43Romeo Doubs:Well, you know these feet still work just fine, man. They do? Where your cleats at?

51:47Fred Warner:Huh?

51:47Romeo Doubs:They in the trunk.

51:48Shannon Sharpe:Hey, mine in the trunk, too. Appreciate you, bro. Congratulations. Appreciate you. Stay healthy. Keep stay hungry. Yes, sir. Thank you, brother. KB, what's up, boy? Joining us, played with the 49ers from 2017 to 2020. Patriots from 2021 to 2024. Now he's back with the 49ers. 37 catches, 551 yards. Kendrick Bourne. KB, what's up, bro? What's up, man? What's up, man? How you doing, man? How you doing?

52:18Romeo Doubs:Hey, well, you look happy. Well, you look excited. You look joyous. Talk to me. God is good, man. You know what I'm saying?

52:23Tee Higgins:God is good. Life good. Family good. Health good, man. Got a good perspective about life, man. I'm living, man. You know what I'm saying? What got you feeling like this? It's just I'm not supposed to be here. Undrafted. You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. Talk your talk. Get a little contract. Take your time. I got released this year, but adversity helped you grow. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? How you look at it. I'm on that wave, man. building my own brand, building stuff that I want to, you know what I'm saying? But using football as a platform, and so I got something to look forward to.

52:47Tee Higgins:I'm inspired by y 'all, man. You know what I'm saying? Nightcap, things y 'all doing, it's inspiring, bro, after the game. How do you do that, though?

52:53Romeo Doubs:Because one of the things you just said, you got release. You know what that does to you? Mentally. Mentally, that can crush you. Come on. Most people are not able to come back from something like that happening. What do you account or what do you attest to you being able to overcome that and still go forward?

53:09Tee Higgins:It's never too high, never too low. Yes, sir. So, you know what I'm saying? You're going to be at the bottom sometimes. You're going to be at the peak. How do I stay level, bro, when I'm down, up? Am I who I say I am when I'm up or down? And that mentality, bro, has gotten me through. So even when I'm losing, bro, I'm always happy smiling because I know life good, life big, life bigger than just football. You know what I'm saying? That we look at. So that perspective has helped me get this far, man. I like it. Yes, sir.

53:33Shannon Sharpe:There was a course that you really didn't want to leave New England. But, hey, they wanted to move in a different direction. And you go back to the 49ers where it originally started. What was your expectations when you got back to the 49ers, considering now they let Debo go, Brandon Ayuk's situation was what it was, but really they didn't like they had a whole lot of number one receivers. So you had Pierce Hall, you had Juwan Jennings. They re-signed Demarcus Robinson. So what was your expectations when you went back to the 49ers? What were you expecting from Kendrick Boyd?

54:01Tee Higgins:That's a great question, man. And it's just God's story, too. Like him bringing me home, like you're saying, of course I want to play in the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? I'd be lying if I did. I want to play. But God's story different. So going back home, connecting with Mac Jones, being connected to the Patriots in that space, and then us balling our opportunity. I didn't know what to expect. But having that right perspective, you know what I'm saying? Thinking with the glass half full. Not like, well, I ain't going to go out there and play. They got this and that. So just having my mind in the right space, man, it allowed me to maximize my opportunity.

54:31Tee Higgins:And I'm right here right now. Even on, like, social media, the story was great. So monetizing that story, being home, just helped me be where I'm at right now.

54:38Romeo Doubs:What's the difference culturally, being that you've been in both places? You've been over there with the Patriots, been over there with the 49ers, from a cultural difference. Do they differ much, being that both entities have always had success?

54:52Tee Higgins:Nah, dog. The Patriots differ.

54:54Romeo Doubs:They do things differently.

54:56Tee Higgins:Boy, you go over there. I want you to know. Yeah. No, that's serious, bro. So get more militant, more blue collar, and then Shanahan chill.

55:03Shannon Sharpe:It's football. All the time. Check your ego. Leave your ego at home. Because if you check your ego at the door, we get a break. You'll go get it. Leave your ego at home. Bring your ass here to work. We work. It's football. It's football. It's football. It's not you.

55:20Tee Higgins:Even where it's at, like being in Foxborough, cold, it's just tough. And then you think about San Fran. It's more like California. It's just that kind of vibe. When you're in Cali, you've got your sunglasses on.

55:30Shannon Sharpe:You ain't got to look it. I don't know how y 'all do it, but, you know, you got to pass you in and pads you in shorts. Everything is really speed and tempo. You put the pads on. You get pads at 9 on 7. You do the team stuff on Thursday. Then you take the pads off for half the year. And then you out of the pads. And then you good. You know, shadow had to treat you. What you need on the road. You get the smoothies. You want to watch a fight on the road. I mean, look, I know Kyle. Kyle was a little kid when I was playing for his dad. Crazy. So I know what that system is like. But I also know people that have played with the Patriots, and I know what that system is like.

56:07Tee Higgins:It's different. And I love Kyle. He got the ways of doing things. He know how to get the superstars over there. Some guys ain't trying to be blue-collar and work hard, but everybody operate different. So if you go to New England, anybody, get your mind right. And if you go to San Fran, get your mind right.

56:21Shannon Sharpe:But it's going to be a different kind of operation. This is what I tell people. I say it's easier to get drafted into New England as opposed to being drafted somewhere else going to New England. That is facts. Because it's easier to, like, go tough and get easier. It's harder to be easier and get tough. Because you're like, hold on, bro. Because we heard Drake Greenlaw. You heard what he said, how he grew up in San Francisco. He came from San Francisco. All he knew was Kyle, that West Coast system. And then you get Sean Payton, who's old school. Real old school. Old school. They thudding it up.

56:56Shannon Sharpe:They thudding it up. They practices alone.

56:59Tee Higgins:Meetings alone. And that's a great point. So, like, for my story, going from San Fran to Patriots was that experience. I had to adjust. And it was like a shock, a whirlwind. And I'm like, all right, bro, I need to adapt. How do I adapt? So, I learned a lot, which was powerful. But if you don't get your mind right, you're going to fold. In my career, it got rough a little bit. I came back. You got Coach Belichick. You got Coach Belichick. I'm telling you.

57:25Shannon Sharpe:His father was militaristic. Everything is structured. Everything is time. You're going to be on time. It ain't no late. It ain't no excuses. We are a no-excuse zone. Chad, no. Listen, you don't have to tell me.

57:41Romeo Doubs:Hey, first hand, and I'm coming from Cincinnati. So I'm not really coming from a background of success. I'm not really coming from a background of winning all the time. That one thing my little black ass did is I worked. So that was the one thing. I didn't have to adapt to that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wherever I'm at, you know what you're going to get. That's fire. But that militant atmosphere, that when you go to practice, KB, and you got to have on every single pad. Like, come on, Cole. KB, I'm not there with my hip pads in. I ain't with my hip pads and butt pads since I was an optimist.

58:11Tee Higgins:It's that serious, man. What are we talking about, Bill? Come on, bro. How he not first ballot, though? Oh, man. It don't make sense, dog.

58:21Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. We've had a couple of people on there trying to ask, How much do you think Spygate played a role in that?

58:27Tee Higgins:That's what I'm saying. And it's funny because that's not my era and my time. So my experience with Bill and what he taught me, I'm like, no, he first ballot. I remember he did a tackling drill. It's called Sideline Skinny. Yes, sir. Where he set up defenders. You run down the sideline. You do certain things. You make one defender stop his feet, make the other defender, and then you throw a stiff arm at the end. Man, I had a game, Tennessee Titans. I was on the sideline. Man, the drill came to life, man. Really? I'm not even kidding, dog. and I said, this boy a guru. And I knew how to run with the football, but the repetition of that, at first I'm like, man, I hate this drill, but then I won the game for us.

59:02Tee Higgins:He like, I told you, boy. I'm like, you didn't tell me, dog.

59:05Shannon Sharpe:So I think he like, that's different to me in a sense. But you got an opportunity to see, and I just want to tell people, Nocho said the same thing. If you get him out of a situation where it's just not football, he does have a kind of laid back personality. He will joke, but you got to get him away where wins and losses don't matter. Because if it wins and losses matter, you're going to get Coach the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to get what you get. Don't talk to him, dog.

59:31Tee Higgins:So I love that about him. You know what I'm saying? He's the ultimate competitor, ultimate, like, coach of the game, presenting it, looks, different things. So he helped me a lot in my career.

59:40Shannon Sharpe:But he's big in situations, aren't he? Because he's a situational guy. Because everything, like, this is going to come up at some point in time and I want to prepare you. He is not a believer that having you dive and put the football out to go across the goal line. You better not put that ball out. It ain't. Boy, my boy was trolling me about fumbling.

59:56Tee Higgins:Why did he come back in the game? What you say, like trying to dive for the game? Oh, he don't play? Just fumbling? Oh, he don't play. But what you say, he care that much. You can't get him a possession, turnover. It's all situational to him. So that messes with his mind, get him out the game. Yeah. I don't care. I don't care if you're the starter. If you like, like, if it's you, you might have went back in the game. I'm like, I'm tier two. You ain't go back in. I'm tier two.

1:00:19Shannon Sharpe:He ain't put me back here. Kendrick Barnes, ladies and gentlemen.

1:00:22Tee Higgins:Thank you, Kendrick, man. Thank you, man. Appreciate you, bro. I got some shirts for y 'all, bro. What size y 'all wear?

1:00:26Romeo Doubs:I'm a large. Double. Double. I got you. I'm like 205 now.

1:00:29Tee Higgins:You want boxy or regular?

1:00:31Romeo Doubs:Huh?

1:00:31Tee Higgins:Boxy tee? Boxy. Boxy.

1:00:32Romeo Doubs:Yeah, I want boxy. I'm still trying to look young. Thanks, fellas.

1:00:36Shannon Sharpe:Appreciate you, bro. All the best. He started his career in 2013 with the Philadelphia Eagles, and then he spent 2013 to 2016 with the Cleveland Browns. And then he goes to the Buffalo Bills from 2017 to 2023, and he spends one year in Miami, and now he's back with the Buffalo Bills, signed late August, activated week six.

1:01:00Shannon Sharpe:You're back home. Buffalo, I mean, I think, you know, you've been a lot of stops, but I think you would consider Buffalo your home. Absolutely. As far as team-wise. That game in Denver, was that as painful of a loss that you've been a part of? It was up there. Because of the Kansas City losses, I'm sure some of those.

1:01:19Chad Johnson:For sure. It was up there. You know, I was hurt that game, so I wasn't able to be out there with the boys. So even more harder to watch, you know. That's part of, obviously, the 13 seconds. You know, I had some tough losses in the previous years. But, yeah, that was up there. You know, game comes down to what it came down to. Everybody has their opinion on this, that, or the other. You know, one play here or there. You know, it is what it is. And, you know, we got to take that one on the chin, you know.

1:01:49Romeo Doubs:Now that we're in the offseason, how's the body feeling? How are you holding up? What's next?

1:01:54Chad Johnson:Yeah, man. This was the first year I felt healthy in a long time. I took my hamstring. I'm 34. Still doing it at 34, bro. I love it. You know what I mean? Still doing it at 34, bro. Which is, it was an incredible season. Right. I came and signed on the practice squad. Ended up, you know, being on, starting by week four, week five. I love the boys out there. Body felt great. It was the healthiest that I've felt in a long time. As I transition to whatever's next, I am a free agent right now, so Buffalo is home. Do you want to continue to play? I would be open to continuing to play, really mostly in Buffalo because I love.

1:02:29Chad Johnson:Is that where your home is? That's not where home is, but I spent most of my career out there. I'm on the backside of my career, man.

1:02:35Romeo Doubs:There's no such thing as backside. There's no such thing as backside. That is something that they put in our heads to make it seem like it's when it's time for us to move up.

1:02:43Chad Johnson:100%.

1:02:43Romeo Doubs:You know, speaking of, you know, we could always use a safety down in the 5-1-3. Just in case. I'm putting that out there right now. Just in case, you know.

1:02:51Chad Johnson:For sure. I could talk to Mike, you know. No, I'm for sure open to keep playing, man. Okay. I can still play at a high level. And, again, you know, whatever happens is going to happen. The year before in Miami, super tough. You know, I signed there after I got cut from Buffalo. I want to get my get back on the Bills. I just ended up getting smacked by them twice. The whole season getting smacked around. The idea of coming back this year was to finish my career the right way, go back to Buffalo. But I'm hoping to keep playing. I can still play the game at a high level. I love playing this game.

1:03:21Chad Johnson:And I play the game because I love the game. I love playing. I love competing. I love being out there with my boys. But, again, as I transition, I'm more transitioning to mental health, mental awareness. I think a lot of us, as we transition, We have this identity crisis, I want to say. Not a crisis, but just, you know, our whole lives we've been playing this game, and that's been our identity. As we transition, we kind of lose that. And so finding ways to understand who you are outside of football. So we do a lot of events, holistic events, breath works. We're going on tour in May. In May with artists, we're blending, you know, mindfulness, dance, breath work, medicine all together and music all together.

1:04:09Chad Johnson:Bringing 300 people together and breathing deep, man. So excited about the transition. Whatever's next, whatever's next, man. I look up to you guys all the time. Just seeing you guys doing your thing, man. And that's motivation in itself. You know, I know I have a voice. I know I see the game the way that I see the game. I know I can talk about the game, but we'll see what happens, man. I'm just enjoying life.

1:04:28Shannon Sharpe:You said something very interesting. You said, you know, this thing, this football, because for the better part of your life, everything has been structured. You're going to be here at this time. You're going to be here at that time. You're going to be this, this, and this. And all of a sudden you leave the game of football and there is no more structure because now I don't have meetings at 10 o 'clock in the morning. I don't have practice at this time. And I don't have a game. And I don't have this. And I don't have that. So as you start to make that transition, because like you said, I got less time in the league than I previously had.

1:04:58Shannon Sharpe:So what's been that transition like for you? How have you started to put those pieces in place to make sure? Because football is what I did. It's not who I am.

1:05:08Chad Johnson:Yeah, and that's a great question because I struggled with that for a long time. You know, I struggled with alcohol for a long time, especially early on in my career, probably six years of my career. I've been sober for five years now. Progress, progress. And, you know, as I've transitioned into sobriety and I've learned a lot more about this world that we're in, about myself, I've learned I'm more than a football player. Football is what I do, and it's what I love. I love playing a game, but it's not who I am. I think that transition is understanding your purpose or having a purpose. What is your purpose for being here on this planet?

1:05:46Chad Johnson:Why did God bring you here? For me, I just believe it to be a light, man, to be a light in this world, to shine. I don't pretend to sit here and know everything about everything, but I know enough about enough to understand And like, you know, there's more to this than what we see on our daily day basis, you know. And when we go inward, when we dive within, when we look within, when we look within ourselves, we can understand ourselves and understand and be aware of the daily decisions that we make and those decisions and the consequences that come from those decisions. And, you know, it's just, it's an awareness, right?

1:06:18Chad Johnson:It's an awareness. It's the same thing like, you know, what is pressure, right? Like when fourth and fourth got to have it, what is pressure? pressure you you're in a in a situation and your pressure is you have expectations that the situation should be this and so you're thinking you're thinking outside of the now moment right like the moment is now there is no such thing as pressure because it's only now and so when you have you can collect when you can you know we train our bodies all year long right you train to go out there and perform on sunday to be at our best our brain is a muscle too and so i i believe that especially as younger athletes we we we have the ability to train our brain to to go within and to learn about pressure learn about why you feel the way you feel in certain situations your emotions learn how to control your emotions to have awareness of your emotions you know why does this piss me off why does this you know why does this tick me off why does she always come in with bad attitude and you know you can then change shift your shift your energy right and put more authenticity and more love into the world and you see how the universe starts to work.

1:07:21Chad Johnson:We can sit here all day and talk about the laws of the universe and all the spirituality stuff, but I say all that to say we are all more than athletes. We are all more, and we are all one. We are all connected beyond what you can even fathom, and I think it's all important for us to continue to share our life, just like you guys are doing. Sharing your light, being who you are, and not being afraid of that. And that's how I transition.

1:07:47Shannon Sharpe:That's what I want to continue to keep doing. You understand this league is a quarterback-driven league, and you play with one of the better quarterbacks. But the expectations are the greater the player, the more expectations are placed, be it fair or unfairly. That is just the way it is because we know that this is why they make the most money. This is why they get the most endorsements. That's why their face are plastered all over everything. Do you think Josh in this situation, does he understand the magnitude and the gravity of what's in store and what's been placed on him?

1:08:20Chad Johnson:Absolutely. I mean, he's the face of the franchise. He's the face of the NFL. But he's still Josh. He's still in the building, being himself. He understands his aura, right? He understands who he is. and it's the best quarterback in the league in my opinion, and he'll be the best quarterback in the league until he's done playing, in my opinion. I always love riding with Josh, and unfortunately we haven't been able to get it done in those big games, but he's always somebody that's going to come back and keep fighting and keep throwing and keep running people over, keep hurling people. And so he does understand the weight of the world is on his shoulders, but I think he rises to that in the moments.

1:09:03Chad Johnson:He played hurt the last three games of the season. He plays through. I mean, you see it in his interviews. You know, they ask him, hey, do you hurt this in the game? He's like, no, I'm good. Like, what? Right. Everybody saw you have a broken hand. Right, right, right. Everybody saw you hurt your hand and you twisted your knee or whatever. But, like, that's who he is, right? He's a competitor. And I go to war with him 100 out of 100 days. Most definitely. Because I see it. Yeah. Like, in his eyes before the game. And, yeah, you fall short. It happens. How are you going to respond? And I know he's going to respond the right way.

1:09:33Chad Johnson:I like it. Appreciate it. Enjoy the party day.

1:09:36Shannon Sharpe:I appreciate y 'all. Buffalo Bill, safety. Thank you, man. Appreciate that. All the best.

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