BEST OF 2025 Part 3:  Unc CALLS OUT the FAKE friends vs the REAL, Eagles DESTROY Pat Mahomes & Chiefs in Super Bowl

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18:06Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe. What's up, man? Tom Brady said the quarterback position isn't as mentally developed as it was when he entered the league. I don't believe the quarterback position is as mentally developed as it was when I entered the league 25 years ago. There was a premium on understanding defenses, on understanding matchups, on, I'd say, pre-snaps, reads, getting your team in and out of the right play. I felt the way to learn was play the position over a period of time. You truly give your team the best chance to win to be a field general. I think you better have a mental advantage on the field, and I think sometimes there's more important than physical advantage.

18:44Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, do you agree with him? Hey, Dumeve, you said a whole lot right there that Brady said. Listen, break it down to me in our language. he says there used to be there was a premium on understanding defenses you had to understand what the defense was trying to do so now you go out there and you look you're not just looking at your guy like man this quarters uh-huh oh this is covered this he got help over here so you needed to understand a pre-snap you looking at the alignment you looking at that triangle okay i see what y 'all trying to do okay so he said you guys need to have a pre-snap you did have an understanding of what's about to happen.

19:27Shannon Sharpe:Make sure you get your guys. Okay, do not run a play into a safety that you can't block. That's a negative play. So you just gave up a down for whatever reason. Flip it. Right. Audible out of it. But listen, Tom Brady speaking from a standpoint of being number 12, a standpoint of having the power and the ability to be able to change plays. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, it's a few other quarterbacks that I can name. When it came to the line of scrimmage, no matter how much disguising you did, no matter how much bluffing you did based on down and distance, they already know from watching film, they know what the hell you're doing.

20:04They know what the hell you're doing. They know exactly where each player is going to be snapping the ball. Even if you wait, even if you wait late and wait till he snapped the ball and he still sees moving in front of him, because once they snap, they're looking right downfield. Okay, if you was down in the box and you shoot back out, okay, this is what they – he already knows what's coming. Every play you run, Chad, every offensive play you run, especially when it's a pass play, there's always somebody open. There's always somewhere to go with the ball, and it's all about being able to process information on what you see in front of you and knowing where to go with it very fast.

20:39Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees were the best at it. They were the best at it.

20:48Shannon Sharpe:Sometimes you got to look at what those guys put in. because a lot of times guys, you'll see a lot of times guys now, there's more important things than football. Football was the most important thing to Tom Brady. It was the most important thing to Peyton Manning. So there was no life outside of that. During the season, the most important thing was football. They didn't play video game. It wasn't no Call of Duty. It wasn't no Madden. It wasn't no doing all this. They got all the commercials done in the off season. So everything that was focused was centered around how can I become the best football player I possibly can?

21:21Shannon Sharpe:The question you ask yourself, is that what these quarterbacks today doing? Yeah. And also, you have to give some of the quarterbacks today, also you have to give them a little grace. You have to give them a little grace because they're starting the game so young, they don't have the freedom to do some of the things that Tom Brady's mentioning. That takes time to develop. They even get to that point where you can recognize everything you're seeing and the coaches trust you. Peyton Manning was the coach. Yeah. Brady was the coach. But they know they put so much time in the Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

21:54You're right. You're right. So listen, quarterbacks right now, they can't come up to the line of scrimmage and see something and be like, you know what? This ain't going to work. We can't run that play. Sometimes I watch NFL games. Wait a minute. The defense shifted. The defense, the line shifts to the right. Change it. Right. You run in power stretch to the right. Right into the team to the defense.

22:16Shannon Sharpe:Right. I think some quarterbacks don't have the freedom to be able to do that because their offensive coordinators don't trust them just yet because they're young. No, you got to earn that. The only guy that had that kind of freedom early on was Peyton Manning. Yeah. They turned the keys over to Peyton. Brady didn't even have that kind of leeway early in his career. He earned that trust. Drew earned that trust. Rodgers earned that trust. You have to earn that. And that doesn't happen overnight. It doesn't. Patrick Mahomes had to earn Andy's trust in order to be able to audible in and out of plays, change a play, things of that nature.

22:55Shannon Sharpe:It's different now. I came in the league, the quarterbacks called their own plays. It wasn't looking at the wrist. They called their plays. John Elway called his plays. Seriously? Yes. He called the game. Damn. Yes. Wait, no officer coordinator talking into the... Hey, he might say what you like here. Okay.

23:21Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Quarterbacks, the old guard, those guys came in the league. Quarterbacks were calling some of the quarterbacks, not all. Some of the quarterbacks were calling their own play. Yeah, he's like, get out of my ear. Leave them all to the sideline. Yeah, you got to get out of my ear. Get out of my ear. But it takes a lot. You have to put a lot of timing in and everybody. But like you said, you're talking about Brady running practice. He's running walkthroughs. He's running 7-on-7. He's running two minutes. He's running no huddle. Tom is doing those things. If you want a quarterback to have, you got to let him do it.

24:00Shannon Sharpe:You got to let him do it. I got to tell this story. I don't know if I'm going to get in trouble or not. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share this. I don't even care. I don't even care, Chad. I'm going to tell you about why the New England Patriots were so goddamn good. Everybody in the chat, I know you saw the beginning of Full Metal Jacket with the sergeant going off, cursing. And just he was he was on one in the beginning of the movie Full Metal Jacket. One day in practice, Bill O 'Brien, obviously the offensive coordinator, calling the plays. We're in practice and Bill radios in the play in Tom's ear.

24:37I'm in the huddle. I'm assuming maybe Tom didn't get it. So Tom's sitting there with his head down, and he does one of these. Give me the play. Give me the play again. And Bill must have said it again. He didn't hear it because the thing, the communication must have been off. And Tom looked back. Give me the goddamn play, Bill. I gave you the fucking play already. I said it two fucking times. Well, I didn't fucking get it. What the fuck you want me to do? Jesus Christ, we're in the middle of practice. We're in the middle of practice. And at that moment, I understood this is why. This is why. The smallest things.

25:24That period we were doing where that one play didn't work and it didn't go right. We started the whole fucking period over. Yeah. We started the whole period over so we can get all the plays in succession and get it the right way. Yep. I'm like, what? Yeah. Bill over there with the whistle on his finger. Tournament. Yeah. So I'm like, man, what are they running over here? No, it was unbelievable. There's so many stories. I can share that one. Some of the other ones, it's a little too graphic. dog.

26:03Shannon Sharpe:Bro, we would go practices. The ball wouldn't touch the ground. Mike would come out there and says, I don't expect the ball to touch the ground. For real? Ball don't touch the ground. Right, right, right.

26:22Shannon Sharpe:Boy, look here.

26:25Shannon Sharpe:People, man, look here. If y 'all look, like I said, them 90s Broncos, you understand. Like, I understand why the Cowboys won in the 90s. I understand why the 49ers won in the 80s and the Steelers won. Because there's a level in which you practice at. Yes. Not that you get it right. You practice so you couldn't get it wrong. That's a good one. That's exactly how. That's how we were. And it was, you're so afraid to let the man next to you down. and he's so afraid to let you down, I'm not going to be the one to drop this ball. No, that ain't going to happen to me.

27:09Shannon Sharpe:Man, Ochoa, look here. Look, I've never really been around Tom like in a game. We played him. I played him twice. We played him in my first year back in Denver. We beat him, and then they came, and Tom threw a touchdown pass with like 20 seconds to go in the ballgame to beat us. But being around him and listening at him talk now, you understand why he's how he is. Yeah. You understand it. You understand. You understand it. Absolutely. He's an animal. In film. Mm-hmm. In practice. Once he's outside that building, completely different person. Yes. I can relax now. Completely different person. Yep.

27:54I can believe it. A few times I've always told people, seeing Tom Brady, seeing Peyton Manning, seeing him in front of a camera, hearing him talk, it does no justice because they have to put on a certain facade. They have to mask who they truly are, the fun side, the authentic Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. So nobody really knows who they are unless you know them personally.

28:20Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Some of the greatest, some of the greatest, funniest dudes ever. And the fact that they have to remain a certain way once that camera's rolling, it's unfair. It's unfair to the world in general because you never get to see the real them. Everything you see is that political robot that says all the right things, that patriot way. But outside of that, dog, Tom, you talking about funny? Dog. I used to hate Ojo. You know what I hate? If somebody messes up, everybody gets punished. No, punish him. man don't laugh man cause man you out there running I mean somebody jump off sides or somebody do something and we all gotta run because their thought process was if it happens in the game he's not the only one that's gonna get punished we get punished as a unit hold on that might be happening but I'm on the side Ocho if the offense with Dan Reeves if the offense jumped offside even if you weren't in the game you had to run Wait, even if you're not in the game Yes, if you're not even in practice The offense had to run Oh lord Hey, listen, Dan, like one band, one sound Yes One band, one sound Every time you jump offside, Ocho You had to run a lap Lap was around both football fields So it's like, that's 400 yards Man, why I had to run three one day, Ocho Three?

29:48Shannon Sharpe:Somebody jumped off sides? No, me.

29:56Me.

30:02Shannon Sharpe:Man, Lord, have mercy. Hey, boy, Dan was old school. You heard how people talk about Coach Landry and how those old school coaches was? That's where Dan was the offensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys under Coach Landry. So he brought Coach Landry's style. If you see Dan back when he first started coaching, he got a hat on. He got a shirt and tie. He got a suit on just like Coach Landry. Now, he never really folded his arms like Coach Landry. Right. Because Dan called the plays. Coach Landry turned some of the play clawing over. That was it. I think people said that was some of the thing between him and Roger Staubach because he didn't really want to let the reins go.

30:42Shannon Sharpe:But, oh, man, yeah. Oh. But I was like, damn. I don't know what it was, Ocho. But, you know, when you get tired, Ocho, you be thinking, I was like, damn, is it one? Was it on one? It was on two? But the ball, the ball right down your inside or to your – But I ain't looking at no ball, man. I'm looking – damn that ball. One thing about it, boy. Hey, I never forget my coach, Coach Bud, Miami Lakes Optimus, 1988. Fatigue will make a fool of us all. It absolutely will. It absolutely will. But I remember that, man, all the running. And then, like, we have guys like guys that make weight in training camp.

31:25Shannon Sharpe:They have to run 110s after practice. So we've been out there for two hours, Ocho, and, you know, you might have to run 10, you might have to run 12. Man, you know, I run with the guys. You know, especially if one of the guys is in my group, one of the tight ends. Right, right, right. Or we have to run after practice, so we might have to run 10, 12, 110s. I'm coasting. I'm cruising. They're like, picking up what? For what? As long as I make it... So, y 'all team was different. My team, obviously not me, but when we were overweight, you know, it cost money a pound. You still had to pay? But you had to run and get it up off you.

32:05You got to pay and you got to run?

32:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you got to get up off you somehow. Man, please. I ain't never had no problem with no weight. I ain't never had you know but I always I always set my weight because I wanted something to fight for you know as I started to get older Mike would say 84 you know you sure you want to come in with this I mean you can come in a couple of pounds I was like nope I want to come in this right here because I'm gonna come in and then you know I'll come in at 232 230 ish by the time the first game start I'm gonna be at 228 by the time the season end I'll be at 225 I already know got a time I've got it planned down to the T, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, just like this.

32:46Shannon Sharpe:Know what I'm going to eat. I know when I'm going to eat. I know how much I'm going to eat. I know how much protein, carbohydrates, fats. I know all of that. But I just think that, you know, that's just a discipline, what it takes, Ocho, to be the best. Yeah. Because that's what I was trying to be. I was trying to be the best. I don't know what somebody else was doing. All I can do is me versus me. I'm going to get everything I can out of this God-given talent. and then hey what he didn't give me i can't complain but he did give me discipline and hard and work ethic to get the most out of what i can do oh what do you think the most difficult position is for a rookie defensive position oh defensive back yeah defensive back oh absolutely coming in coming in coming in from college the speed of the game has changed the players you got to go against are a little bit more polished than what you saw in college everybody's fast everybody's fast now you know so really understanding who's in front of you making sure you discipline your eyes everything matters now once you get to that next left I mean listen your coordinators can hide you sometimes you know put the safety over top of you I mean, man, listen, man, DB, the most difficult.

34:12Shannon Sharpe:Well, hey, now when you got one-on-one, you ain't got no DB over the top of you. Because I'm assuming y 'all did. Hold on, I'm trying to think. Did y 'all do one-on-ones every day or y 'all just did one-on-ones on Thursday? Probably Wednesday and Thursday. Yeah. Yeah, you know, Wednesday, Wednesday, obviously open field day. Yeah. Thursday is red zone. so we'll do red zone one-on-ones on Thursdays. Friday to Friday is a combination of both. You know, practice only an hour on Fridays. Oh, yeah, that was – yeah, it was – it's funny that I think about like, man, but that was – I really, truly felt that at practice is when I was getting better.

35:01Ocho, if I could be the guy that sees me every day,

35:04Shannon Sharpe:have seen me every day for years. What chance that guy got in the game? On Sunday, and none at all. Zero. None at all. I don't even see you. Just so you know, I don't even see you. All that you talking, okay, got something for you. But, man, I just – but you just understand people get to where they need to go doing different things, don't you? Yeah. I was, it was the end all be all. Right. Ocho, I had teammates. They had to go out. Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night. They got to. Right. They got to. They missing something. Something might happen and I ain't there to see it. Like, bro, how?

35:57Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. How? Man, I got to get, man, I got to get me like, I'm in the bed, Ocho. I'm in the bed at 10. Yeah. Hell, I was all the way before my time. Hell, I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s and going to bed at 10. Yeah. Yeah. We in the same boat in a sense, but you were here and I was out here. You was like, I mean, oh, man. It's the same way when I was in college. When I was in college, I was a teenager. I was in the bed at 10.30. Sleep. Out. Yeah. Out. man boy my roommate would come in there and cut that light on I understood early in college at Langston University at Santa Monica going out costs it costs money and I ain't spending no money so it was easy for me not to go anywhere and not going anywhere gaming my money I had to spend it was spent on buying games that was it that's where my money went I mean, I didn't really watch no football games, Ocho.

37:06I would only watch a football game, a Monday night game, Ocho,

37:11Shannon Sharpe:if we weren't going to play that team during the season. If we're going to play that team during the season, I ain't watching it. No? Nope. Because I didn't want to have a false sense. Because if they look bad, I didn't want to think, oh, we're going to run through them. Run through them, okay. Or if they look good, I'm like, damn, we got our work cut out. Mm-mm. I got you. But I've always been a guy that gotten to, like I said, in college, I'm 10 o 'clock. And don't be running out of that. Because, you know, I was just reading a kid, I think 11-year-old kid in Houston just got shot again, Ocho, playing that knock-knock, ding-ding thing.

37:47Playing on people's porch?

37:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Ding-dong-ditch? Yeah, man. Man, Ocho, guys in college, Ocho, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Beat on your door. I'm not going to your dorm room, though, and running. Yeah. Really, guys? Really? Listen, I'm one. That was me. And listen, you talk about Ding Dong Ditch. My condolences to the young bull that lost his life in Houston doing that. But I was doing that, too, back in the city. I'll never forget Scott Projects. Scott Projects, me and Snoop Minnis. I don't know if you remember Marvin Minnis. Yeah, I heard of him. I don't know him. Man, we was little kids, man, in the Sky Projects.

38:30Man, knock, knock, knock, taking off. I remember them days.

38:35Shannon Sharpe:Oh, there's some good days. That was like my freshman year. When I got to be a sophomore. Yeah. And I was the BMOC. Right. Don't do that. What BMOC stand for? Big man on campus. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, you be that boy, huh? Okay, okay. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for my sophomore year. And definitely my junior and senior year. Oh, yeah. You were that man. Man, y 'all know how sharp it is, man. Yeah. Okay. Nah, nah, nah. But I needed my rest. Look, I done practiced my ass off. Coach Davis done had us out there for two, two and a half hours. I done gone to study hall, did my homework. I'm out.

39:19Shannon Sharpe:I got to get up at 7 in the morning. I got class at 8. So I got to get up, shower, put my clothes on, go to the cafeteria, eat breakfast. Time out, time out. You schedule your classes for early in the morning? Oh, boy, look here. Bill Davis say, look here, you ain't on no academic scholarship, you on a football scholarship. Boy, you couldn't have no class. You couldn't have no class. The latest you could have a class. We had practice at three. The latest, the absolute latest. Right. Bill didn't want, Coach Davis didn't want you to have a class afternoon. My class was 8, 8 to 9, 9 to 10, 10 to 11, 11 to 12.

39:59Shannon Sharpe:I go eat, 30 minutes to eat. Then I go get me an hour and a half nap. Get up, walk to practice. We had to walk to practice. We couldn't drive to practice. We had to walk to practice, which was like maybe half a mile. Practice for two, two and a half hours. Go to the cafeteria, eat. Go shower. Go do my homework. 10 o 'clock, 10.30, lights out. you better than me I get up early but I ain't getting up to go to no class the only problem that look Coach Davis I love Coach Davis today the only time he and I butted heads 5am workouts

40:43Shannon Sharpe:that's the only time that's the only time I've ever told a coach coach I ain't gonna do it 5 a.m.? I'm not going to do it. That's not the military. That's like army. That's like, you know. Nah, they tripping. Man, you know, he had the off-season workouts, Ocho, 5 o 'clock.

41:11Shannon Sharpe:Me getting up early, Ocho, it just like ruined my day. I feel like I'm sluggish the rest of the day. If you have to get up early? Yeah, man. I hated it. And plus, I had to get up my senior year before I went to Savannah State, Ocho. We did construction, we did landscaping, and I had to work in Savannah. And I lived in Glenville, which is 65 miles away. We got to be on the job at 6 a.m. So the guy picking me up at 4.30, I said, nah, man. I ain't doing that. I said coach I can't do it coach I said coach I can't do it I said coach I can't do it he said damn Holmes he said you the leader I said well coach I'm going to have to leave from the bed I'm going to have to leave from my dorm room and he didn't bother me because he know what I was there for I was very specific when he came to recruit me at Savannah State when he came to my house to sign me that morning when I said to coach I called him and said, Coach, I want to sign with Savannah State.

42:20Shannon Sharpe:He said, I'm going to put some clothes on. I'm coming right now. I said, no, Coach, you can come in the morning. I was very intentional about what I wanted. Right. I can't do that.

42:32Shannon Sharpe:I can't do that. Yeah. What I can do is what I can do. Tom Brady says Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback in NFL history. Aaron, in his prime, to me, is the greatest passer of the football the league has ever seen. he could get the ball from point A to point B faster and more accurate than any player in NFL history you agree? Absolutely and you know if anything you might want to throw Brett Favre in it too I don't think Brett was a great thrower of the football. When I think of great throwers of the football I'm looking at a guy like Aaron Rodgers. I'm looking at a guy like Dan Marino Danny.

43:10Wait you don't put whoa whoa whoa you don't put Brett in that conversation?

43:14Shannon Sharpe:Not a great throw in football, no. But I understand what he's saying when he talks about Aaron Rodgers, though. The arm, the slots, the angles in which he can throw the ball from, the platforms. Every last one. From up here all the way down to the sidearm. It didn't matter. And he was accurate as hell. Yes. Accurate as hell. But then, obviously, and especially Aaron Rodgers' mechanics, his footwork, that's not teach. You don't teach that. You cannot. You would He's throwing off one foot, he's throwing going back because he has arm strength to do it. He has arm strength to be able to get away with some of the stuff that he does.

43:52Anything Aaron Rodgers like when it comes to playing the quarterback position, you can teach it because he's the only one that can get away with it because he has the arm.

43:59Shannon Sharpe:But I still, to me, the greatest NFL season by a quarterback is Dan's season in 84. Yeah, with his offense. Yeah. He threw for 48 touchdowns, 5 ,000 yards. In that era, when you could knock hell out of the quarterback, you could knock hell out of receivers, and he did that, that's still the greatest for – that is Joe Burrow's season, his last year at LSU. That's what that would be the equivalent of. You got to go – and look, like I said, back then, the defenses could punish the quarterback. I'm talking about annihilate them. There wasn't no, well, you hit him in the back, You hit him in his knee.

44:42Shannon Sharpe:You hit him below the waist. And? Yeah. That was the greatest season. But I won't argue with Tom on this one. Aaron Rodgers, the way he could, the platforms, the arm slots, which he could throw the ball from, and the accuracy in which he could throw from any angle on the field. He said it none. I mean, he's gifted. He was gifted. And the funny thing about it, a lot of people say, oh, Aaron Rodgers is trash. If you watch the game of football, when Aaron was in his prime of Green Break, with Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, Devontae Adams, man. Oh, he had Greg Jennings? Greg Jennings. Uh-huh. James Johnson?

45:29Yeah, but he could sling it, boy. Uh-huh. He could sling it.

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49:58Shannon Sharpe:The last time the Chiefs lost in the Super Bowl, Tampa defense got after him. They couldn't run the football. They became one-dimensional, and they came one-dimensional again tonight, and the Eagles pinned their ears back. They got out to Patrick Mahomes, forced a couple turnovers, well, forced three turnovers, a pick six, an interception right before the half, and that was the difference in the ball game. What did you like about what you saw from the Eagles in this dominating victory? Don't let the score fool you. 40-22, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. That was a dominating victory. Yeah. Hey, listen, the game of football, especially in the Super Bowl, most of the time, it's one up front.

50:39It's one up front. It's one in the trenches. That's where everything starts at. The Eagles' defense, Vangio didn't have the defense. Fangio didn't have to do any blitzing. He didn't have to do anything exotic except line up and rush the pass because the front four got the job done all night. I'm not sure what the center was doing. I'm not sure what the right tackle and the left tackle were doing all night for the Kansas City Chiefs. They played. You know what? I'm not going to talk about them. I'm going to credit the Eagles defense. The defense played phenomenal football. They tried to roll out.

51:09If you notice, Unc, not too many times they packed from home, just dropped back. You notice how they rolled them to the left a little bit? Rolled him to the right a little bit to kind of reset the pocket a little bit to give the offensive line a little help with Jalen Carter, you know, trying to nullify him a little bit, get him to reset his feet and have to start all the way back over as opposed to just coming up field and bull rushing. They couldn't get nothing done. They couldn't. They weren't able to run the ball. Obviously, they made him one dimensional, which is why the game turned out the way it did.

51:37Now, on the flip side of the ball, the Chiefs did a great job. The Chiefs did a great job in nullifying the run and not allowing Saquon Barkley hit his head off the goal post and being efficient in the run game, but they weren't able to stop the pass. Jalen Hurts, very good in the pass. I think, if I'm not mistaken, this might be one of the few games we threw for over 200 yards where they didn't have more rushing yards and they actually won the goddamn game.

52:01Shannon Sharpe:Well, the defense gave them very good field position, Ocho. And when you look at it, the problem was that, yeah, they did a great job of stopping Saquon, but they couldn't get off the field on third down. You see, your job is not complete until you get off the field on third down. Now you had them on third down. Trent McDuffie, what did he do, Ocho? He got an unnecessary penalty. Now they go and get a touchdown. See, you got to be smart. You can't put yourself in situations like that. Give the Eagles and see the thing with Kansas City. They ran into the same thing, and I tweeted it earlier. This game has the exact feel of the Chiefs-Tampa.

52:33Shannon Sharpe:The Chiefs couldn't run the football, okay? The Bucs says, we know y 'all not going to run the football. Guess what? They play shell coverage. Cover two. Well, you're not going to run the football. If a team is playing nickel, you've got to run them out of it. You've got to. They've got small guys. They're playing a 4-2-5. You've got to run them up out of it. And when their inability to try to even attempt to run, now Big Fangio says, okay, they walk right into the trap. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. And I thought the game would have been a lot better. I thought it would have been a lot better, obviously, with the creativity and how special Mahomes is.

53:11But Mahomes was never able to be poised. He was never able to gain composure and be comfortable in the pocket. The entire night, they had him running for his life, even with the tricks that they tried to do and getting him out the parlor, rolling him out a little bit. But what it did, it made him one-dimensional, especially with one side of the field. That's how the first interception happened because he lost vision of, how do you say last name? I don't want to butcher it. He lost vision of where he was at because he was rolling that way. And obviously when you're rolling that way, you're not staring at that side.

53:43You're staring at what's coming towards you to where you can throw the ball. Didn't even see him coming. Interception goes the other way. The game was a very good game from all three phases for the Chiefs. For the Eagles, you mean? All three phases. Offensive, offensive, defensive, obviously special teams as well. not giving up any big plays. There was some garbage time work from Mahomes and Worthy that really didn't affect the game in any way. But congratulations to the Eagles. And I think I'm going to tell you why the Eagles won. It was the good luck kiss I gave Sirianni before the game started at the media day.

54:22That's what it was. That's what it was. Ocho, normally what happens, if you go back and study the playoffs,

54:30Shannon Sharpe:when you get into the game and you lose, whatever your weakness was, it gets exacerbated. What was the Eagles' problem for the most part of the year? Pass protection. Yeah, pass protection. Now we got an opportunity to see it. The same thing when they lost. Now, the last time they lost the Super Bowl, they lost to the Buccaneers. They went out and signed Joe Tooney. Now, if I'm the Chiefs, I'm going to go get Trent Williams. I'm going to overpay for him. because you got yeah i've got to get a left tackle i've got to put joe tooney back at left guard right i've got to do that because it does not matter how great you are up look this is what if you look at this game look at what the eagles did and who they did it to this is one of the most dominating performances that you're going to see yes there have been other games you go back can look at the 85 Bears that was Tony Eason you look at what we did that was Kerry Collins you look but when you look at what they did to a historically and generational and a transcendent quarterback this is one of the most dominating performances that you're going to see kind of what like the Seahawks did to Peyton Manning kind of like what the Bugs did to Patrick Mahomes they dominated it I mean it wasn't close yet you're looking like 40-22 but at one point in time the game was 40 to 6 the game was 40 to 6 and for all intents and purposes the game was over at 24 nothing at the half because the people like well you saw what tom brady did no the difference was that that wasn't that that wasn't that that wasn't that goddamn no out there bro one team had like 11 plays the other team had 12 first downs so i didn't see any any semblance that there was something that they could do you see they come out and try to run the football they ran it for a play and then guess what?

56:20Shannon Sharpe:They go right back to throwing it. Listen, I saw a stat. I saw a stat. I think Tom Brady called it out. They hadn't gotten the first down. I think if I might be wrong, you can correct me if I'm wrong, they didn't get a first down until they didn't pass the 50-yard line. The 50-yard line. Was it the whole first half or not until the third? I'm like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, it was, I mean, you've got to give the Eagles credit. Mahomes didn't play well. Credit that. It wasn't that he didn't play well in his own. The Eagles had a lot to do with that. That front four was relentless. That front four was relentless.

56:56Shannon Sharpe:Give him credit. Give credit to Sweat. Give credit to Smith. Give credit to Jalen Carter. Give credit to Williams. Give credit to those guys. Jordan Davis, they did an unbelievable job of doing what they were supposed to do. Our job, and guess what? Even when he was able to escape, they chased him down. They didn't give up. They were relentless in their pressure. and they earned this victory. Now, I don't know if y 'all noticed, but hey, they built the last. You look at what they got. They built the last. They got Hurts on an easy contract. They got their two wide receivers. They got them sold up.

57:34Shannon Sharpe:Now, you're going to have to do something with Braun. You're going to have to make a decision. It's going to cost you a little bit of money for him. You've got to bring it back. You've got to bring it back. He's on the one year. He was special. He was special all season long for them. And you have to bring him back. And you're a defensive player of the year candidate. So, Ocho, you got Saquon tied up. Your offense is tied up. You got Lane Johnson locked up. You got Mya Lada locked up. You got Dickerson locked up. Your center is going to be in the second year. He's on a rookie contract. Offensively, you're straight.

58:07Good. But look at the age, Gump. Look at the age. If you look at the landscape of the team on both sides of the ball, almost everybody's young. You obviously have a few veterans that are up and down, but the majority of the team is young. This team is going to be together for a while. And then you have to think, you still got the draft. And then you still have off-season acquisitions that Jeffrey Lurie and Harry Roseman are going to make to even better the squad. The question is, there's a guy out there that says he wants to be traded. Who?

58:36Shannon Sharpe:Miles Garrett. Oh, they're not going to be able to fit it. Then you're not going to be able to pay nobody else. I'm just saying. Thank you. But look, hold on. Stay with you real quick now. Now, look what they were able to do. If I'm a GM, if I'm Harry Roseman, if I'm Jeffrey Lurie, look what they were able to do with the front four they have right now, the young bulls. Yes. You know? Okay. Do you really want to, do you really need, based off what you saw tonight against Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City team, do you really need to bring in a Myles Garrett? You got to keep, but hey, you can't stand Pat.

59:12Shannon Sharpe:Look, I'm looking to improve. Now, it's going to probably be too much to give up to get him. And like you said, right now, for the next week, I'm not even thinking about that. I'm going to enjoy this. If I'm Jeffrey Lurie and Hyatt Rose, if I'm Jeffrey, I'm saying, Howie, don't bring me any ideas. I don't want to hear it. I want to enjoy this. Right, right. If I'm Nick Ceriani, Howie, don't tell Aya. You're going to lose your offensive coordinator. It looks like Kellen Moore has the job, unless something unforeseen happened in the last 24, 48 hours. He has the job in New Orleans. So you're going to have to find a new play caller.

59:52Shannon Sharpe:But the fact of the matter is that what they have, they're a very, very good, well-coached team. Sarayani, when you showed up with that sweatsuit, told me that you didn't think you were going to get the job, but you got the job, you've proven your worth. I was wrong about you. you got to the Super Bowl, you lose your coordinators, and everybody's down and out on you. But you know what? You go back and you get Vic Fangio, and that defense was outstanding. Kellen Moore did a great job of calling the game, running the football all year long with Saquon Barkley. Jalen Hurts doing what he needed to do in order to, hey, okay, I'm throwing for 121, I'm throwing for 148.

1:00:34Shannon Sharpe:Now in this ballgame, y 'all give me a lot of single-high coverage, I'm going to make these throws. And then when the coverage got tight, hey, yeah, yeah, he started picking them up, putting them down. So now that's the problem that you're up against when you've got these mobile quarterbacks, Ocho. You run past them, they jump out the window, and they're hightailing, and all you're doing is looking at taillights. This was a dominating performance. The Eagles fans rejoiced. Did Jalen Hurts win the MVP? Who won MVP? Was it a defensive player? Was it Sweat? Was it Hurts? Who won MVP? I mean, it should have been Hurts.

1:01:12I mean, if it was going to be somebody on the defensive side of the ball, hell, the whole goddamn defense should have got it, the whole front line. Hurts just won it, Ocho.

1:01:21Shannon Sharpe:He just won it. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. But it was an outstanding performance of what we saw today. They dominated this ball game. But when I looked at this ball game, Ocho, and we talked about it Thursday night, I said the Eagles have the better team. If you look at it player from player. Yeah, play for men. It's not even close. It's not even close. Maybe the only position, the only position is quarterback where you can say they got a better place. Other than that, you look at wide receivers. Look at the running back. You look at the offensive line. Okay, Chris Jones and Jalen Carter, that's a push.

1:01:59Shannon Sharpe:Look at the linebackers, Zach Brown, boom. Okay, maybe McDuffie and Mitchell, maybe McDuffie's slightly better. Maybe that's a push. But if you look at the other position, So if you look at a starting 22, with the exception of maybe one, two positions, the Eagles have the better team. Yeah, most definitely. And usually, in this case, most of the time, if the offensive line didn't play so bad, if they didn't play so bad, Patrick Mahomes' decision-making wouldn't have been as bad as it was. He started taking risks. They made him very, very, very uncomfortable from the beginning of the game. So when you talk about which team is better, Patrick Mahomes has been so good since he's been in the league, regards to how good the personnel is on both sides of the ball for the goddamn Eagles.

1:02:50Patrick Mahomes, most of the time, has always been good enough to overcome that. He's been good enough to overcome the weaknesses that they have offensively. But tonight, uh-uh. If you go back and look at the game that he's lost.

1:03:04Shannon Sharpe:Yes. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers had a better team. offensive line. Because remember that first time, Ocho, they trotted out five new offensive linemen. Well, you're not winning. I don't care who you are. I don't care who your quarterback is. You trot out five new offensive linemen, you're not winning that game. But he needed to do a better job of protecting the football, especially. But when you get down, Ocho, you start taking chances. You don't gamble, but people out there that gambles know what I'm talking about. You start losing, and the next thing you do, you start adding more chips to the pile to try to get your money back.

1:03:36Shannon Sharpe:in one shot. Oh, Joe, you done lost $4 ,000, so the first thing you do, I'm going to hit$4 ,000 back with one hand. Let me bet five. Well, you bet five next time, now you're down$9 ,000. And so you keep compounding it. So you start taking unnecessary risk and put your team further behind the eight ball. This is the thing. This is the one-shot game. You got to throw the kitchen sink out there. Once you're behind the eight ball in the game like this, playing against a defense like that, you have no choice but to put the ball in harm's way. You don't have a choice but to take those risks and bet that$5 ,000 or$4 ,000 to try to get your money back.

1:04:15You ain't got all day. This ain't no seven-game series. What is one shot and you going home?

1:04:19Shannon Sharpe:They're going to have to go get a running back, Coach O. Kansas City. Hold on, Nat. Time out. Let's stop. Let's stop. They got Pacheco. He was good before he got injured for what they do well. Kareem Hunt came in. He filled it. and he's done an excellent job for what they do well. What the Chiefs ask their running backs to do, they do very well. They don't need to say Quan Barclay. No, I'm not saying – no, no, no, no, no. You don't need to say Quan Barclay or Derrick Henry. But, Ocho, in a situation like that – and granted, I don't want to take anything away from the Eagles, but Andy got away from calling runs, and that put him further, further behind the show because if I don't have to even – Ocho, I ain't even thinking about the run.

1:05:04Shannon Sharpe:I ain't even thinking about the run. I don't even think about the run. All I got to do is worry about trying to go to get the 1-5. Hold up, but you got to think about why you're not thinking about the run. How well that front four, Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter, didn't play. I know, but Ocho, you got to at least give them something to think about. See, if you, hey, oh, no, let's see. I can't run up in this house. That joker might be home. That joker might have this thing booby-trapped. He might be waiting on me. I got to give you something to think about. They're not even giving me anything to think about.

1:05:33Shannon Sharpe:If you think about it, I think they had three rushes in the first half. Can I say something? Can I say something? I like your idea, though. I love your idea to say, you know, the Chiefs need to go get a running back. But it's only one Saquon Barkley. Stay with me now. There's only one Derrick Henry. There's only one Jameer Gibbs. I'm trying to think of somebody else that is. That scares you a little bit. There's only one Josh Gabe. Now, there's a handful of running backs. Get a tier two running back. Those are tier ones. Get you a tier two. Well, they got tier two right now. They got tier threes.

1:06:07Shannon Sharpe:You think so? No. Come on. Yeah, they do, Ocho. Yeah, they do. Come on, man. Don't do it like that. They do. They do.

1:06:23Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, the biggest social media debate of the day stemmed from Odell Beckham Jr. talking about the struggles of a$100 million contract and how money doesn't last forever. He said, and I always explain to people like this, like, bro, you give somebody five years, a$100 million contract, right? What is it really? It's like five years,$60 million. You're getting taxed. Do the math. That's$12 million a year. You know that you have to spend, you have to use, save, invest, flaunt. I don't know. Probably should have left that flaunt out there. But go ahead. This is O.J. This is the Odell talking. Just be real.

1:06:53Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to buy a car. I'm going to give my mom a house. Everything costs money. So if you're spending$4 million a year, what is that really? That's$40 million over five years. That's$8 million a year. That's a five-year span, and you're getting$8 million. Can you make it last forever? And you always hear people who ain't us and ain't been in that position like, oh, well, that would last a lifetime. OBJ, I'm going to be honest with you, bro. If you get$60 million liquid and that can't last you a lifetime, you got a problem. Hold on. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Before you go on, think about all the lottery winners.

1:07:31right? Yes. They all went broke. Yes.

1:07:36Shannon Sharpe:All of them. What did he say? He put something in there to end. What did he say? You spend, use, save, invest, flaunt. Right. Ocho. Yeah. Now, do you really need 10 houses? Damn. Do you really need 15 cars? No. Do you need to buy everybody in your family? Imagine it costs a million, two million dollars. Because here's the thing. First of all, if you buy somebody in your house, your family a house, a house that costs a million to two million dollars, first of all, they can't afford the upkeep on it. Because if they could, they'd have it already. See, it ain't the payment, it's the upkeep. Right.

1:08:26Shannon Sharpe:It should go wrong. Mm-hmm. So now you buy somebody a Mercedes, you buy somebody a Ferrari, you buy somebody a high-end car. God damn. Now you said, okay, I bought you this. You got it kicked up, Keith. Right. Something happened to it. Tago Flan. Who they calling, Ocho? You. You. So that's the thing. I have a question. For better context for me, is he just speaking hypothetically? He's not talking about his personal situation. He said, and I always explain to people, like, bro, you give somebody five years,$100 million. What is that really? It's like five years, 60, you're getting taxed. Yes, that's$60 million.

1:09:07Shannon Sharpe:Okay, you buy you a house. Now, you're not buying a house every year, I don't think. But here's the thing. Yes. Bro, say he's spending$4 million a year? If you're spending$4 million a year and it ain't a business related, You out your damn mind. Ain't no way in hell I'm spending$4 million a year. Hey, that's a lot of money there, bruh. Hell yeah. $4 million? Yes. Hey, you know how - Let's just say, Ocho, you buy a house. Let's just say you buy a house. A house that costs$5 million. Yeah. You 3%, 5%. I don't know what your interest rate is. That's probably, if you just play an interest-only loan, you're probably playing on$4 million, somewhere between$20 ,000 and$25 ,000,$30 ,000 a month.

1:09:55Shannon Sharpe:that's on your place that costs$45 million. Right. Okay, you buy mom a house. If I were to buy mom a house, I'm damn near going to probably get her a house that I can go ahead and pay off. So I'm going to spend a half a million dollars for mom because I got to get her something that she can clean for herself because I can't play for a cleaner service because, see, that's another expense, Ocho. Yes, it is. You get a pool in the yard, Ocho, guess what? You got to have it cleaned every week, Ocho. That's another expense, don't you? Another expense, yeah. And you get a big-ass house, somebody cut the grass.

1:10:21Shannon Sharpe:I need somebody to come with a pushing lawnmower and cut the grass. That's another expense. That's another expense on me, Ocho. I don't think players actually factor that stuff in when the money's coming in because it's coming in so fast and it comes in in huge chunks. Yes. Everyone doesn't factor. Everyone doesn't have that financial savviness or that financial discipline to think long term. That's one of the few things I was really good at. while I was playing when it huge chunks of money was coming in I was thinking long term but I also had the goddamn financial discipline to understand that flaunting and being flashy wasn't my identity oh my name just my name the name the brand itself was just as big as anything else I could purchase You're not hearing me.

1:11:15The name itself was just as big as anything else I could purchase. So I can go anywhere and say, oh, shit, that's a Ferrari. Where that same place that Ferrari go, oh, shit, they go Ocho. So it was no need for me to drive a motherfucking Ferrari because everybody knew who I was. You know what, Ocho Gil, give out your system.

1:11:34Shannon Sharpe:Okay, if you want to lease a Ferrari for a year to say, you know what? Yeah, it's okay. But I ain't been to get no Ferrari, didn't get a Lambo. But here's the thing, Ocho. Let's see what he didn't tell you. How it adds up. Flying private. Oh, yeah. Hey, Uncle, it go crazy. Hold on, Uncle. Now, you be flying private too now. I done seen you with your feet kicked up eating Popeye. You know? Yes. Now you see why I fly spirit the past 20 years. Ocho, but I don't fly everywhere private. I don't go overseas private. You're talking about anywhere between$10 ,000 and$20 ,000 an hour. if you fly overseas.

1:12:13Shannon Sharpe:How long is it going to take you to get to London? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Come back. How long is it going to take you to get to Madrid? Wait, bring that back. Bring that back around. Did you just hop an hour or the whole trip? An hour. They going to charge you about an hour to go overseas? Yes. Oh, heck. So if you go overseas, guess what, Ocho? You flying back, Cross, so that might be a$400 ,000 trip. Just like that. Maybe a million. How far are you going? Oh, man. Okay. Now, here. Well, hold on. Time out, man. If it costs that much, what all these people be doing on Instagrams where they always flying private?

1:12:52Them people ain't making that kind of money. Flossy.

1:12:58Hey, see, I... Listen, I don't know.

1:13:01Shannon Sharpe:I just know my method... And, and, kids, you pay child support. You mess around to get the wrong one and she charge you 20... Oh, yeah. You got a phone. You're in California. is$20 ,000,$25 ,000,$30 ,000,$40 ,000,$50 ,000 a month. $50 ,000 a month times 12 times 18. How much is that, Ocho? I ain't good at math, but it's$8 ,000. So if you're playing$600 ,000, so$50 ,000, let's just say for the sake of argument, let's take a round even number because everybody like round numbers. Yeah. Let's just say you're paying$20 ,000 a month times 12. That's$240 ,000 a year. Okay. Times 10. Uh-huh. That's$2.4 million.

1:13:39Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Now we add eight more to that. Uh-huh. You see where it went to, Ocho? Yeah, I don't like that. So you're about$3.6 million,$3.8 million. That's one child. Ooh. Now imagine you got one, two, three, four. I do. I do. I got a lot of them. The thing that you did there was in Florida. See, in California, they rickety across the coast. But also, I had kids from people that really wasn't on that because they understood. They understood it was about the child. So for those of you that have kids for me, I thank you. You know, I love you because we was on the same page and you weren't vindictive.

1:14:18You understood I was always present. I appreciate y 'all because them numbers you just ran off, I never had to deal with nothing like that. Why damn?

1:14:27Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, what if you got a main girl and we got a side chick and you want to keep that on the hush? Oh, you got to pay hush money. Hey. I know you with me when I'm right. Hey, but hold on. You know the kind of money you got to make to be able to have a woman on the side and be able to keep her quiet and keep her happy? Yes. You got to make a lot of money. And it go fast, huh? But like I said, Ocho, if you got a business, you running a business, business is cost because you have employees. Right. You got to pay for insurance and you got to pay for one case and all that other stuff. So I understand that.

1:15:05Shannon Sharpe:But if your yearly expenses and you ain't got no business and you're spending$4 million, man, you watch it. Look here. You need to be Bezos. I need to be, also, for me to spend$4 million a year, I need to be making$50 million a year. Yeah. $60 million a year. Not no$100 million contract. I need to be making LeBron James type money. $120 million a year. Yeah. God damn. And, you know, you got full-time security. You know, you're like LeBron. He got full-time security for him and Savannah. Right. Or these entertainers like Beyonce and Hov. Okay, you got a full-time security detail. That's a couple of million dollars a year because you got 24-hour security.

1:15:48Hey, hey, you think, hey, when we get famous, famous, you think we going to need security?

1:15:55Shannon Sharpe:I'm not going to need security. I don't, I don't, I'm not, I don't, for me, I can't say I'm not, but I hope I don't because I'm just, I don't really go anywhere. Right. hold on hold on we finna be hanging out though hanging out where me and you like when we get famous famous boy hey people need to see us we finna be in the house man look at Ocho hold on hey you know what you ain't gotta pay none you can take you know what just take it out my check right take it out my check just add me add me 1 % I got my I got my um I got my uh my concealed weapon lights my concealed weapon lights but I ain't trying Ocho I know I'm gonna let somebody else if I'm gonna have security they gonna have that I said added expense.

1:16:36You can use me. Hey, I keep right here. I'm here right here like this. Right here. Hey, they won't play with you.

1:16:48Shannon Sharpe:Most security got two. Huh? They got an ankle holster and a side holster. Oh, yeah. I got a little 22. It be in my ankle. I got a little 22. It be in my boots. Right now, I'm like on a three-year plan. I'm like a two-year plan, two-year plan. Wait, whoa. I'm going to be inside. No, come on. Don't start that now. Hey, I'm like Pucks of Tarny Field. I saw my shadow. I got to go back inside. No, don't do that. Don't do that. Hey, listen, one thing about it. Tomorrow is not promised, Unk. Tomorrow is not promised. So what you need to do is while you're here now, you need to live. You need to live.

1:17:21I'm living, Ocho. You need to enjoy.

1:17:23Shannon Sharpe:But, Ocho, to be honest, Ocho, I've never been one of those guys that like to hang out. I've never been that. Unk, I don't go no way either. I'm never outside. You're always outside, Ocho. Where? Work? Everywhere. You're talking about work? You at games. I'm not like that. I don't go nowhere. I don't go nowhere. I'm going to go eat, and I'm going back home. That's where I want to be. That's me. That's me. Now, I will go to a jazz club. I go to the cigar bar, and that's the extent of where I go. Now, I might go listen to some live music. Now, you know I love me some live music. Yeah, I do. I know that.

1:17:57That's up my alley. but we need god damn it

1:18:04hold on hold on but that's i mean four million dollars a year chat that's a that's a lot of chat that's 400 000 a month i don't think that's hey i think he was just i was i think he was just

1:18:18Shannon Sharpe:giving no he said everything called so if you're spending four million a year but i'm saying ocho do you know how i mean for you to spend four million a year you need to be making you probably need to be making 50 million a year. Yeah. That's why I think he wasn't talking about himself. I think he was just using that as an example of people on how they spend because that's egregious. Yeah. Oh yeah. 60 million liquid? Hey. You got 60 million dollars liquid. Ocho, let's just say if you just invest conservative Ocho, it's going to pay you 5 % to 8%. Yeah. 5 % to 8 % gonna pay you 4 million a year.

1:19:02Shannon Sharpe:And you never lose the principle. No. So you can live out that. Yeah. And you know it's funny a lot of people that always say oh if I had that much money if I had that much money oh I'll last forever. But the devil is a lie. Because you get that kind of money you will be a totally different person. If you don't have discipline with the little that you do have now You're right. You're right. And you get that kind of money You're right. You're right. Man, listen. Hey, I thank my grandma. I thank my grandma and my grandfather. And they're one of the few reasons why I was able to make so much and not live as if I was making millions.

1:19:43And it was easy because it wasn't my identity. It never became my identity. Or I didn't get caught in that image or I'm making millions. So I have to look like it. Now, every so often, one, two, three, you know, one, two, maybe three times. Yeah, you treat yourself.

1:19:58Shannon Sharpe:You get yourself a watch. I'm flex. Yeah, I flex. Yeah, for sure. Hey, people, you know, they love making fun of me, you know. But, you know, listen, man, I'm going 30 years strong, man. Still living the same lifestyle I was before I started playing. Still living the same lifestyle. Every time, you know, every blue moon, you know, I turn up. You got to. You got to. You got to. Because guess what? You leave all that money here. They're going to spend it. They ain't going to hoard it like you do it. I already know about, hey, my kids might stop working and be working in two years. Because everybody's going to be gold.

1:20:35Shannon Sharpe:Because they don't look at money like I do.

1:20:41Shannon Sharpe:But I'm very fortunate. Like my sister, my sister's like, hey. I was like, you know, I tried to get a new car. She's like, nah, ain't nothing wrong with this one. Right. I said, for what I do right around here, I'm good. I got my mom a car. I got my brother a car a couple years ago. Got my son a car. My daughter a car. Yeah. They good. Like I told them, Santa Claus got laid off. Damn. No crimp in this year. No, no. I'm going to see you at$5 ,900. Don't worry about it. You're going to be good. You can get them a little Range Rover, a little Range Rover, you know,$25. I mean, whoever needs a car.

1:21:17No, no, no, no.

1:21:18Shannon Sharpe:They good on cars. You sure? Yeah. My Range Rover. Look, my Range Rover got 40 ,000 miles. Just got this turn, 40 ,000 miles. Right. It's 13 years old. Hey, you need to treat yourself. I did. To what?

1:21:43I told you.

1:21:44Shannon Sharpe:When we take off, I'm going on vacation. Man, that's not treating yourself, man. It is. Hey, you know what you should do, Unc? What? You should get yourself a sports car. Uncho, it's hard enough for me getting in and out with my hips like they are. I ain't getting no sports car. No, I think for my birthday, I think I'm going to get a McLaren.

1:22:15Shannon Sharpe:I mean, if you'd have called me last year, I'd have gotten me a McSharon. I can't get no that's what I would have got me but right now Ocho uh uh uh uh

1:22:27Shannon Sharpe:right now Ocho your boy your boy your boy doing bad your boy doing bad hey um let me tell you something you ain't never doing bad when you wake up and you open them eyes and you allow the opportunity to see another day you doing good always man come on man man?

1:22:52God damn, now. I done paid this man$350 to fix this issue when they're still doing this shit.

1:22:58Shannon Sharpe:Well, clearly he ain't fix it. Well, I need my money back. But, nah, it's tough. Like you said, Ocho, when you get money and then you want to help people, you want to make sure your family's taken care of, but don't get crazy reckless with it. My two homeboys, I always, you know, I always look out for them. Because, you know, in my homeboys, I know if their shoe was on the other foot and I call them, they come through the clutch. It's always been like me and my brother. It's always, it was never I got. We got. When he went to the NFL, hey, bro, we made it. When I went to the Hall of Fame, bro, we in the hall.

1:23:40Shannon Sharpe:So it's always been, it's only been three of us. We're very, very close. Very, very close. and I got, they got. Yeah. I got, they got. And that's how it's always going to be. Yeah. But yeah, man,$4 million a year, you need to be making 50 bands a year to spend that kind of money. That's crazy. I mean,$400 ,000. Think about it. That's$400 ,000 a month. Right. And you know what I think about too, Unk, is Instagram and social media has everybody so fooled. It does. It does. It has, Ocho. They have no understanding of money and they really think people are really living these lifestyles like that.

1:24:21It's impossible. It's impossible to live the lifestyle that the people put up consistently day to day to day. Oh, you know what? I can't even get it out. I can't even get it out because I understand how much it takes to be able to do some of the things that I'm seeing on Instagram. And I'm like, there ain't no fucking way. You ain't going to tell me nothing. I know. There ain't no way. It's impossible. It's impossible. But I mean, and then the fact that it's everybody's identity. It's everybody's image. It's looking like I'm rich or looking like I've got it. Like for what? For what? Because the people that, I'm talking about the ones that really do.

1:25:05I'm talking about really got it for real. Man, you wouldn't be able to tell.

1:25:09Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You wouldn't even be able to tell. Now, Ocho, if you notice now, more people like Tom Brady. Tom is really big into watches. Yeah. Him and Jay-Z. Him and Jay-Z. That seems to be the thing now. LeBron, and you see Harden, and you see a lot of these guys. A lot of these guys in the F.P. Jorns or the Pateks or the APs, the Richard Mill. I mean, the Vacherons. I mean, the watch is like, okay. Because, okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you got that kind of money and you spend 25, 30, 40 million dollars for a house and you got all the cars that you can possibly want I mean what I mean me I don't want a house that big I mean my house is probably too big as it is now considering I'm in two rooms the kitchen and the bedroom how big that you got a palace over there like Joe no hell no What you would like, 15 ,000 square feet?

1:26:09Shannon Sharpe:Man, please. Nah, about 75, 8 ,000. God damn! Boy, you got 12. Hey, you over the A, boy. You E-M-Y? Nah. 75, 8 ,000? What's that, about 12 bedroom? Shh, man. Hey, you got a golf course back there? Nope. Okay. I used to live on a golf course when I was in Baltimore. Ooh. Ooh, but you, hey, you showing off the night, boy. You showing off. Staying on the golf course? I ain't staying on no golf course. I'm just saying, but you did. You said you did. I did, I did, yeah. Yeah, that's risk people. The royal family, they stay on the golf course. It wasn't that developed back then. Right. And so I got it at a good deal, and then I sold it.

1:27:00Shannon Sharpe:The housing market was going right here, so I sold it for like$70 ,000. I mean, when I put in, I sold it for like$70 ,000 over what I was asking. Okay. Okay. But nah. Like I said, I got this. I mean, I'm in two rooms. I mean, I got this entertainment room. You know, it's really nice. Man, I'm like. Yeah. I ain't walking down. Yeah. That would require me to walk downstairs. Yeah. I remember the entertainment room because I had to pass by that. I had to pass by that. To get to the trophy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:27:37Hey, see? That's perfect. You see, this is why I'm trying to get you a partner now. It's perfect right there. Them nights you can't sleep at night, boom. Hey, honey, I wrote a poem for you. Hey, honey, let me write you a love letter. Hold on. Recite some Shakespeare to your girl or something. Hold on, hold on. I thought auntie got somebody saying he should have been married in two years.

1:27:58Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. You heard that joke? Yo live for sure. Yeah. Hey, just because y 'all don't see me, I'm listening and watching now. OK, OK. Yeah. Hey, Joe, you married? Hey, Joe, you married, huh? Close enough. I ain't married. Close enough. OK, but listen. Hold on. Stay with me, Joe. He just ain't got no paperwork. Listen, this is what we can do. We could all make this official and have a trifecta wedding. Hold on. Yeah, we could have a trifecta wedding. I'm official. I just ain't got no whistle. You know what I'm saying? Stop with it.

1:28:33Shannon Sharpe:I'm good. Yeah, we back. We back. I like it. We probably watching. Yeah. OK, OK. All right. Yeah. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I got you. Yeah, you see what I'm saying, Joe? Joe, we know it. Yes. You feel me now? It's time. Ocho, it's time to come home. It's time to come home. Yeah. Yeah. Come home. It's about that time. Hey, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. We not getting no younger. No, I ain't. Hey, Joe, I tried to explain to Unc. I say the older we get, the older we get the chances of getting what we want, it becomes slim. Because what's available out there right now don't nobody else want. Because that's why it's available.

1:29:16You hear me?

1:29:17Shannon Sharpe:You get a certain age, you know. You get what you can, not what you want to. You know what I'm saying? The pickings are slim now. It's a tough time to be dating now, boy. Hey, what? Hey, boy. I waved my white flag long time ago. I remember, hey, we got back to school clothes. It was like a week before school. Everything done been picked over. Right. Hey, Joe. Hey, it wasn't early. Hey, we get the last two weeks. Everything done been picked over. Everybody else that tried the jeans on, that tried the shirt on, that had their feet in the shoe. That's where they came up. Because I remember when I was coming up, Joe, people be trying the shoes on just their bare foot.

1:30:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You ain't have no socks. You know, they just started. You laughing, Ocho. I ain't lying. You people had their breath like, damn. Hey, let me get into what he just had. But that was back in the day. But it's time to come on in, Ocho. It's time to come on home. Man. It is what it is. And listen, I'm at fault, too. I'm at fault, too. Yeah, for sure. As I've gotten older, I've tried. I struck out, huh? I've tried. I've tried. I've struck out. But, you know, I'm back at the plate. That's the one thing I love about baseball is at some point, as much as you strike out, you will get your opportunity to be at the plate again.

1:30:46And right now, boy, I'm about to hit a home run.

1:30:49Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. You know what my problem was, Ocho? Call me, uh, uh, Joey Ohtani. No, not Ohtani. What's up? Aaron Judge. No, play for the Blue Jays. Oh, Vlad Guerrero Jr.? I'm Guerrero Jr. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, man. Hey, the thing was, you know my problem with Ocho? Talk to me. Looking for perfection. Ooh, take your time. It ain't out there. Boy, she the perfect height. She was the perfect complexion. Come on now. She had the perfect build. She had the perfect. Uh-huh. Bro, you not gonna find all that. in one you just listen i've come to the realization i've got to i've got to find a woman that have enough of the qualities that i'm looking for that i'm willing to overlook the ones that she don't have it took me 57 years to realize that there is no such thing as perfection although we constantly try to achieve it talk to them so now i'm like okay that's enough right you're enough yes tall enough you fine enough the complexion is enough everything is enough come on now and it took me a while to realize that because i'm like i'm trying to be perfect hell i want the perfect person yeah yeah that's why i ate the way i ate that's why i trained because i was trying to be perfect shannon and my sister just say shannon you realize you're not be perfect right you realize you you flawed you are flawed i don't know why we all are we yeah i mean i'm like listen i i i i would love i would love to be a therapist i would love to be a counselor uh for for my sisters because they they have expectations and i love i love people having expectations and and and having wants and needs and and wanting requirements for people that they date to meet those qualifications.

1:32:50You hear me? What y 'all laughing at?

1:32:52Shannon Sharpe:I'm listening, bro. Yeah, but here's the thing, Ocho. But stay with me real quick. I want to hear this. What are the chances? If you ask a woman, Joe, if you ask a woman, what is she looking for in a man? You hear me? And she'll run down the list of all the qualities and all the requirements that she wants. And it's almost, it's a Build-A-Bear. it's not it's not real the expectations aren't realistic so everyone is looking for this this not not imaginary but you you'll meet a guy that that'll meet half of what you want and uh you know nah he ain't no good no he where he where he work at sears all he work at macy's i can't do nothing with that oh joe yeah the easiest thing you'll do is to get with a person.

1:33:43Shannon Sharpe:Getting with is the easy part. Staying is what's hard. Man. Basketball came easy to Joe. Football came easy to you and I. But guess what we had to do? We had to practice. We had to study. We had to lift weights. We had to train. All that goes towards work. Working. You see? Everybody gets to the relationship, and then that's it. you've got to work every single day because the person that you met yesterday is not the person the day the person that you go bet the bed with tonight gonna wake up and so now instead of finding a reason to break up can i find a reason to stay in the words of earth when in five can i find a reason just one can i find one reason to stay the reason that we love games been played all of our reason was a...

1:34:36Come on now.

1:34:38Shannon Sharpe:Take your time. Right. So now, it took me a while because I... Ocho, man, you... Damn. Damn. Nah. Shannon. Because at the end of the day, the way she look today, she ain't going to look like that 10 years from now. And that booty that's up on her shoulders, it's going to be down by her knees and you're going to need to pick it up. and walk behind her to care. Because you know what? She walking in a silhouette that you can see. Now, when she get about 55, 60, you're going to be dragging in the sand on the beach. You're going to know where she went. Hey, where my girl? OK, I see a trail. You know what I'm saying?

1:35:20And you got to accept that, Ocho.

1:35:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. Because I really, you know what? I walked by the mirror the other day, and I was like, damn.

1:35:33Shannon Sharpe:I ain't the same guy no more, Ocho. Hold on. You lost it? Ocho, I'm telling you. I used to pee in a boot from 25 feet away. That's how your arm was, Ocho. I ain't that no more. What happened? Hey, you say you ain't got it like you used to. I ain't got it like I used to. I was like, well, damn. I'm like, I'm not terrible. Right. But I'm looking at how I once was. Right. And so if women were to judge me by what I used to be, as opposed to what I currently am, I ain't going to get nobody. Damn. I know I used to walk. I walked around at 235 with 5 % body fat. OK. 3%, 4 % body fat for years. Right.

1:36:28Shannon Sharpe:And so I was like, you know what? I need to give people grace like I'm asking people to give me grace. Hey. Hold on, what you saying? You fat now? Nah. No, I ain't fat. Oh, no, everybody, no stretch of the imagination. OK, OK. Hey, hey. I'm saying his bounce back ain't like it used to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. His bounce back ain't. Yeah, yeah, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. Damn. I'm just saying the baby arm ain't what it used to be. That's all I'm saying, Ocho. That's all. All right, but that's it. We ain't going no further. 26, 26. I'm going to be back. Stay with me till 26. My bad, Thaddo. My bad, Thaddo.

1:37:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But you have to come to the realization, man, and I've come to the realization that, hey, it is what it is. Hey, I ain't 27. I ain't 37. Hey, just got to keep kicking. Hey. Hey. Just put one foot in front of the other and just keep going forward. Well, we back. We all the way back. Nah, nah, nah, nah. We all the way back. But you better believe 26 is going to be all the cracking. All right. That's what I'm talking about. I'm going to be part of some of that cool stuff y 'all got going. Yeah, you know, the reason why y 'all fell in love with Uncle Ocho Nightcap. 26. 26. Yeah, two more months.

1:37:53Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all know. I got these jokes. I ain't in the joke telling business like quick, but I got some. But man, this... Man. You know what I'm saying? You know, you driving, you just spend a lot of time. You know, I've had a lot of time today because, you know, my grandmother say, boy, she say, you either walking into the storm, you in the storm, or you walking out of it. She say somebody, everybody going through something, son. Yeah, come on. Come on, man. Boy, and when you in that storm, when you in the eye of the storm, the eye of the storm dropped down in New Orleans, Katrina, that was the eye. Yeah.

1:38:36Shannon Sharpe:Boy, you don't think, you don't know if it's ever. Ever. Like, when is this going to be over? How much longer? Man, L over. Where do I go? When does it end? What the? Yeah, hey. But I, eh. the eye of a storm could be eye-opening. Ocho, I read a quote many, many years ago. It said, a lesson that's not learned in blood is destined to be repeated.

1:39:06Shannon Sharpe:I had a conversation with my brother probably about two months ago. And he called me. And I said, well, you know, obviously he knew what was going on because I called him and told him or heard a time. and then something else came out then something else came out then ESPN came out he said Shannon there's a lesson in here somewhere for you to be going through what you're going through there is a lesson it's on you to figure it out I said man I sure wish I would he said you know what he said no that's not the plan he said if you knew what it was you would circumvent the lesson right he said no but you'll figure it out yeah he said you'll figure it out and people when y 'all see me i don't i don't want y 'all to have the wrong impression um but i'm just very guarded now i'm very very guarded i was always on alert but I'm on high alert because I really don't know who I can really trust because what I've seen over the last six months, there are very few people that you can actually trust.

1:40:28Shannon Sharpe:Very, very, very few. And there are people that said some things and it's gotten back to me, but I was like, wow. And you remember we had this conversation, Ocho, about being down and then people feel like they can pile on. but I'm just very I'm very matter of fact I'm very hey how you doing it's nice to meet you I'm going about I'm on my way I'm on my way because I don't want people yeah I had a conversation and Jeff because if you stay too long Ocho the more people and this is what I had to learn and somebody told me this they say Shannon the more people you become involved with the more stories there is to be told

1:41:13Shannon Sharpe:circle gotta be crazy small the more people you're involved with shannon the more stories there are to be told

1:41:25okay i like that

1:41:30Shannon Sharpe:i didn't know um what was gonna happen i appreciate you ocho because you're like hey when you text me, Unc, I'm with you. Whatever we got to go through, we going through it. You ain't by yourself. Till the wheels fall the fuck off. Shit, you gave me the opportunity. There are so many people, Ocho and Joe, that used to call, that used to text. I ain't heard from them since this happened. But that's alright, though. That's alright, though. Man, please. Keep it moving, baby. maybe this is what I don't wish this on anybody, but what it did do is it really showed me who's really, really there. Right.

1:42:21Shannon Sharpe:There are a lot of people on the peripheral, when things were going well, when we were at the apex and getting invited to everything. Yeah. I'm talking about ain't called ain't called and I'm talking about we were talking once a month twice a month are we gonna come back but I see I think about too Unc and Joe you had to think about what you had to go through I've been in the eye of that storm too now big time in front of the world yeah so I had to take my legs I had to take my and I had hey Joe with them calls stop ain't hurt nobody my circle was always small so my same circle was right there you know to lift me up but I already knew I was finna sit for a minute for a long time Joe I had a it was quiet up for maybe six years well you know how long six years is nothing coming no nothing you just and then here we go you give me an opportunity you know why everything is back going motion and going is going good yeah and then you think I had a nerd to jump ship just because you going through what I had to go through years ago I know I know what it's like yeah and I'm looking at the chat everybody say Stephen A no I will say this Stephen A has called me and been there every step of the way.

1:44:04Shannon Sharpe:I will say that. I will say Stephen A has reached out. He's called. Asked me anything. Juvie. He's like, man, Juvie just wanted to say, hey, that's his boy. He just wanted to say, hey, you good? You good? I'm good. I'm good. Look, I know a lot of people say a lot of things about Stephen A. All I can attest to is the way Stephen A is with Shannon. And he's been great because when I went through what I was going through with Fox, he was there. When I was going through this, he was calling anything I could do. What can I do? I won't get into private conversations that we have because that's between he and I.

1:44:45Shannon Sharpe:But there are a lot of other people. A lot. Well, I shouldn't say a lot. A lot of the parts of the land. There were a few. Quite a few.

1:44:57Shannon Sharpe:But you know what? I was... I've been down before. This public lashing and ridicule and scorn and humiliation. Been there. Take your lumps. But it took me a while to realize, like, hold on. You call the people that you're closest to. Brother, mom, sister, kids, best friend, Bucket Burns. you explain to them what they say bro we good once I got once I got to that Ocho you and I talked about this man look it is what it is I'm gonna be alright I ain't even wanna hear it we good sunshine follows rain what time the next show hey Joe that's all I wanna know What time is the next show? That is exactly what he said.

1:45:57Shannon Sharpe:He didn't. Merry Christmas. Whatever you celebrate, be it Christmas, be it Hanukkah, be it Kwanzaa, whatever it is you celebrate, may it be joyous, may it be prosperous. Stay safe from the Nightcap family, Uncle Nocho, and everybody involved. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Kwanzaa. Peace.

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