Best of Heated Moments Part 1: Ocho CHECKS Cris Carter for DISRESPECTING his football career,

18:58I'll tell you what. Guess what? You had a former coach.

19:01Shannon Sharpe:Your former coach had three Pro Bowls and 62 picks. You taking Dick LeBeau? Oh, hey, what you know about LeBeau? Hey, what you know about LeBeau's, what? What you know about Dave? You just told me numbers. Yeah, I mean, listen, that's what everything is based off of, right? No. Okay, numbers. Okay, let's go all pros. Let's go Pro Bowls. Let's go all decade. Let's go defensive player of the year. Right, right. That's part of numbers also. Just not picks. Okay. Okay. Okay. I got you. See, I look at it like this. I got you. If you get six picks and you give up eight touchdowns, what have you done?

19:43Okay. I see what you're doing. I got it. I like that.

19:46Shannon Sharpe:I thought the job of a corner is to take away more than you give up. Mm-hmm.

19:54Shannon Sharpe:That's a great combo. I'm just waiting on this man to tell me who is he better than than the list I renamed now we're going to have, guess what let's have the conversation, hopefully Lord spare both of our lives we're able to have a conversation another 10 to 15 years I'm going to need to see a gold jacket on his back because all the guys that I've been to now hey, Jalen Ramsey's going to be coming up Richard Sherman's going to be coming up Pat P's going to be coming up you see, what he's trying to do oh it's all about marketing Bro, you played on the Patriots. Ty Law played on the Patriots. Ty Law got a red jacket and a gold jacket.

20:31Shannon Sharpe:So don't do that bull job about marketing. Who was on TV more than the Patriots, Ocho? Oh, during that 20-year run? During that time. Who? Yeah. Oh, so now it's marketing. Time ain't no marketing, bro. Yeah, he marketed himself to know how to parlay that. But that man on the field, you better go check them tapes.

20:56Shannon Sharpe:either you can or you can't. That's a great conversation, bro. That's a good one now. Oh, Willie Brown, Mike Haynes. Mike Haynes got nine like nine Pro Bowls. You better go check.

21:11That's a great convo. Let me grab me a water.

21:13Shannon Sharpe:Asante, go ahead, bro. Asante, you had a great career, bro. You a good player. You just said all I said, you weren't time. And you had to get personal.

21:29Shannon Sharpe:I don't know why. I mean, if you wanted to come on Nightcap to get your name out there, you could have did that. Hey. Hey, listen. That is a great combo, boy. You hear me? It's a great combo. What's a great combo? This one? I like this. Obviously, it's not me as the individual, but I'm just saying. In his prime, is he better than Stephon Gilmore?

21:58Shannon Sharpe:At some point, hey, Chad, don't y 'all want Ocho to chime in instead of just talking about this is a great convo? He ain't said nothing about the man. I'm listening to you. You're telling me. This is Nightcap, Unc and Ocho. We don't listen to each other. We go back and forth. I've been chiming in all the time. No, you ain't saying nothing. I'm listening to you. Now, listen. You see what he said, Chad? He listened to me. He addressed Shannon Sharp. He sent a long message. To Shannon Sharp. So I'm just listening to what you have to say. Hold on. Where did he address Shannon Sharp? What was Shannon Sharp speaking on?

22:29On what? On him.

22:31Shannon Sharpe:On Nightcap. Nightcap. Unc and Ocho. Right. So it's your job to answer back. I get it. Y 'all see, Ocho don't want to chime in. He from Florida. Ocho might bump into him. Y 'all know me. I don't give a damn. I mean, what is bumping into anything? See, here's the problem. Here's the thing with Shannon Sharp. Whatever Shannon Sharp say on Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe, if he bumped into said player, Shannon Sharpe is man enough to stand on that. Bro, you not time. You not Charles Woodson. You not Rod Woodson. You not Darrell Revis. You not Mel Blunt. You not Mike Haynes. You not Darryl Green. You not.

23:10Shannon Sharpe:Facts. Now, of the 10 guys that I named, find a coach, find a receiver that say Asante Samuel is better than any of those guys. Right?

23:27See, the way you make it sound, see you being mean. How am I being mean? Ocho. Ocho. You hear how you make it sound? You make it sound like Buddy was trash or something. I didn't say he was trash. Ocho. I'm just saying the way you talking, like you acting like we just sitting here talking about some just some old bum we i'm just i'm just curious ocho who can i say yeah i mean listen i played the game listen i played the game right wait stay with me stay with me stay with me real quick i played the game on the other side of the ball so i know i played against prime i played against zon i have an understanding of both and how good they were what they oh hold on great as prime was and how good Zant was.

24:21So it's hard for me to sit here and say, you know, the way you do it when I saw it with my own eyes. I understand how great prime is, but then I know what that young bull was doing as well when he was playing.

24:38Shannon Sharpe:All I said, I said he was good. I said he was a very good player, had an unbelievable career. He used He used the technique. He used the technique that time doesn't approve of. Two things can be true. Yes, sir. Okay. Some guys like to play press and open the gate. Some guys like to press and put hands. Whatever technique works for you. But he was talking as if he was the equivalent because he posted his stats and time stats, saying, look at our stats. Right. So he's posting those stats as if he's the equivalent. And I said he's not. I didn't say he wasn't a good player. I said he went to Pro Bowls.

25:28Shannon Sharpe:I think he was an All-Pro. I know he won Super Bowls in New England. That's what I said. Right. He took offense that I didn't co-sign him. I don't need no marketing. I don't need to co-sign. I think everybody's known I didn't have an opportunity to critique time when he played when he went back for those two years because he was mainly a safety and he didn't start the game. Okay, that's fine. But I've never had a problem critiquing any player. I critique Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, you name a player, Ray Lewis, receivers, T.O., Randy. I've never had a problem critiquing because I'm basing it on my not intimate knowledge of the game and film study.

26:18Shannon Sharpe:When I was at CBS, I would watch film. How many times when I was at CBS or Fox, when you ever heard a guy call and tell me about, Shannon Sharp, don't know what the hell he's talking about? No, that ain't going to happen. See what y 'all trying to do. Well, you doing the same. That's not what I said. No, no. I've never said I've never See, the difference is Skip tried to say I said I was better than Tom Brady. I said Tom Brady wasn't playing well. Why would I, as a tight end, compare myself to a quarterback? Okay, right, right, right. I would need to compare myself to Gronk, to Kelsey, or a tight end.

26:55Shannon Sharpe:That's the only way you can get an equivalent.

27:01Shannon Sharpe:I said, I said. Yeah. Asante had a great career. Pro Bowls, Super Bowls. Now, guy, like I said, you want to say, Sheldon, you ain't Trav. You ain't Gronk. You right. You got to live with that. You right. You got me. Right. You got me. But I'm just confused. Hey. But look, bro, I gave you 15 minutes of fame. Fame that you never would have got had you not mentioned me or time. Enjoy it. Now, go back to your solitary life. Nobody's going to... When was the last... I tell you what, Ochoa. When was the last time, prior to last night, when was the last time you heard somebody mention Asante Samuel?

28:02Shannon Sharpe:Take your time. I'm going to go get me some water. Take your time. Hey, Chad. Y 'all keep Ochoa interested. Hey, anyway, chat, we back. Unk, he's a little upset. He's a little upset. Other than that, it's a great conversation. I like it. I like the dialogue. I like the back and forth. I like players also, what we already talk about, having a belief. Not only a belief in what you can do and what you've already done, and bringing it to the forefront. Bringing it to the forefront and supporting what it is you've done in comparison to someone else who is also great. And that's okay. Now, a lot of people won't see it that way, as you can see, including none.

28:44But one thing I've always do, see, is if you were bad at what you do, then I will always come out and say that. But I played against both. And I understand how good both were. I understand how great Prime was. Obviously catching him on the tail end of his career and obviously playing against Asante during his prime and understanding how good he was, how much of a student of the game he was. And what I'm not going to do is diminish what I was able to see for years while I was playing and understanding, watching film I'm here and understanding how good he was and how savvy he was technically. So it's different coming from someone that actually played on the opposite side and understand how good he was.

29:25So it's hard to say, oh, he's not... Whoa, whoa, whoa, I had to go against this. I had to go against that for years. So it's different. It's different. You know, especially in a lot of people in the chat, obviously some of the comments on Twitter, on X, whatever it may be, their feelings are always different as well because it's based off who you know and what they've done. Hey, Unk, that was good.

29:53Shannon Sharpe:I just asked you a simple question. Which one? Prior to last night and today, when was the last time you heard somebody mention Asante Samuel? Unk, I'm supposed to know. I be on nightcap. Every time a tight end break a record, who record they send it there? The most 150-yard game. The most lost this. The most that. Every Sunday in the NFL season when a tight end does something, who name is up there? When they have them named, he just passed this one. Who name is also up there? Ocho?

30:28Ocho?

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34:02Shannon Sharpe:It's a good one.

34:07Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, while we're away, there's some people that have some words for you. For me? Chris Carter had some words for Ocho last week. He said there were points. Oh, yep. He said there were points in Chad's career that you had to go out there and tell him what to do because he couldn't get open to save his life. He couldn't get open against average guys. Chad Johnson scored double-digit touchdowns one time in his 11 years. I think I scored double-digit touchdowns six times. Scoring the football is the number one play as a receiver. No, I was not a burner. I ran 4-6, 4-6-5, but can do it every single day.

34:42Shannon Sharpe:Can do it for four quarters and the consistent at it. Ocho? You know what that get? Child, please. What are we doing? I don't know. I don't. I'm just trying to figure out what. I have a question. Before you even go. What the hell does that matter? What does it matter? Okay, you scored double the touchdowns. Okay, cool. You want a cookie? Right. Okay. Julio Jones. What brought this on? Have you had a conversation with CeCe? No, I don't need to. I have a question. So, right? I heard also he said, well, he only had double-digit touchdowns one season, so he's not a Hall of Famer. But does that mean Julio Jones is not a Hall of Famer either?

35:31Because Julio Jones only had double-digit touchdowns one season. You have dumb that sounds?

35:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Well, sometimes I listen to things, and everyone's situation is different, you know? Everyone's situation is different. Yeah. I mean, so stuff like that, I pay it no mind because everything is predicated off numbers and based on what they did, based on other people's situations were different. Obviously, where I was, I did the best I could with the cards I was dealt. And I did one hell of a goddamn job. I don't care about what you did. I don't care about your numbers. It don't make me none. Why is my name even being brought up? That's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't know why it was brought up.

36:13Shannon Sharpe:I don't. Because like I said, Ocho, me, I don't really listen to anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to, you know, to try to make our podcast better than what it is. And I got Club Shay Shay. So I'm trying to get guests and I'm going with the book. It's like, okay, who do you think we should get? Blah, blah, blah. So I don't really have time to pay attention. But it just kept popping up, not only on, it kept popping up on Twitter. And then I saw it on the internet. I'm like, okay, what brought this about? I said, did Ocho say something about him? Or what transpired? For one, you know I don't talk about people.

36:51We definitely don't talk about people that do what we do. Never. And, you know, I don't talk about nobody, you know. But, you know, congratulations on everything he said. I'm happy for you, Chris Carter, your double-digit touchdowns, and your Hall of Fame and all that other good stuff. I love you. I wish you continued success in whatever it is you got going on, baby. I know what we're doing over here, though. I know where I'm going. I'm going that way

37:19Shannon Sharpe:maybe he wanted you to respond I did respond I just said I love him no but I'm saying I thought I mean I think maybe he wanted you to respond in a different way and it goes back and forth I ain't got time for that okay we done got too grown first of all you got kids I got kids I got grandkids I'm not finna go look what we did we did He can't go back and score no more touchdowns. You can't go back and score no more touchdowns. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who can't? I can't go back and score no more touchdowns. Who can't? We right here. Hey, hold on. I'm still scoring touchdowns right now. Oh, man. Yes, you're doing that.

37:56Shannon Sharpe:You're doing a great job, oh, man. I'm still scoring touchdowns in life. He told me when we played. I don't care about that. I'm scoring double-digit touchdowns right now. Yeah, for sure. Come on, now. You're not hearing where I'm coming from. I hear what you're saying. I know. Come on, now. I know. No, but that's my thing, is that sometimes we get caught up and talk about what we used to do. What you doing that? Talk to me. What you doing that? We were all great at once upon a time in our own right. Okay? You know, you did what you did. I think CeCe played 16 seasons. Wait, how many you played?

38:36Shannon Sharpe:16. How many I played? I don't know. Hell, you played. I think you played 11 or 12, didn't you? 11. How many? Hey, I played 11. He played 16. How many yards you got? Man, look here. I'm just asking. I'm just trying to get a better understanding. How many yards you got? I don't. Ask, ask, ask. How many yards does CeCe have?

39:06Shannon Sharpe:But, okay. Hey, the chat says CeCe snapped because he was pissed at Ocho for saying that he could beat Travis in a one-on matchup 10 out of 10 times. Why is he worried about – Bro, we just be joking when we say stuff. Man, it ain't that serious. Bro, he knew that. He knew that because I do the same thing with everybody. You do. And so I said, Ocho, can you not challenge everybody that come on here? Who? You. Everybody that come on here can get that work. You hear me? And Travis – CeCe had a kick below 14 ,000 yards. He had 13 ,899 yards. So he played 15 season. 16, I think. 16. And he got, what, 13 ,000 yards?

39:46Shannon Sharpe:Almost 14 ,000. Okay. So he plays 15, 16. He only got 3 ,000 more yards than me and played five more seasons. I had 11? I guess, yeah. Okay, okay. I'm just trying to get a better understanding on why. Okay, cool. Anyway, but like I was saying, anybody that come on this show, I had the utmost confidence in my ability and being able to do any and everything. That's something that a lot of people in this world lack. Even if you feel you can't do it, you have to feel you can because everything starts up here in the mind. So everybody that comes over here, regardless of what sport they play or whatever it is that they do, I feel I can beat them.

40:24And if you feel if you feel you can beat me doing it, what you do best, whatever it may be, you don't have to show me. You don't have to show me. Matter of fact, Chris Carter, I'll lock Chris Carter ass up right now. Talk about what he did. You should. He's 60. Huh?

40:41Shannon Sharpe:He's 60. What that mean? He talking like he still got it. Get out here. Get on the field. Line it up. Put your cleats on. I'll lock your ass up too. Hitman Travis on him. We got a pulse. That's what we got. So we breathe it. We walk it. We get up out of bed. We got our right mind. Blood running warm up our veins. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. See, this is the thing about it. one thing about the wide receiver camp, the workshop that I just had, is I'm not just talking. I'm not just saying what it should look like. I'm out there with my cleats and my shoes on. What?

41:13Out there running full speed. I still got it. You hear me? So it's one thing, once you go back in that structured environment, you know, with the X's and O's and you have a receiver coach that actually never really played the game. They just know the game based on paper and what it should look like.

41:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Like, I'm out there running them routes with you. I'm not only just, I'm not telling you what it should look like. I can actually display it and show you. Boy, this is Picasso. Yeah. I'll say this, love. I've known CeCe a long time. His brother and I used to hang when we were to the Super Bowls and stuff. I would just say this. CeCe know when the man joking. It wasn't that serious. No, no, no. No. CeCe, I love you, baby. But put them cleats on. Put them cleats on. I'm going to show you. Double digit touchdown. I put these two hands on your chest, boy. You won't catch shit.

42:06Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, one of the stories that we're about to talk about now is really upsetting to me. Ex-NFL quarterback Trevon Boykin said Thanksgiving at Russell Wilson's mansion felt weird because none of his family was around. Let's take a listen to what Boykin had to say, Ocho. Yes, sir. Russell Wilson, I went to his house for Thanksgiving. The weirdest feeling. he catered. I come from a traditional country-ass black family. If I got as much money as Russell Wilson, my whole family would talk about me so bad if I didn't fly everybody out there for Thanksgiving. And I'm sponsored by an airline. Maybe he's not close to his family.

42:46Shannon Sharpe:Maybe he not. His mama wasn't there. Sisters wasn't there. Even though it still works to me. Even if you don't fool with your family It still works me on Thanksgiving My family gonna do the fool If you the one with the money we coming to your house That part That's what we gonna do So to get over there and catch Russell Wilson Like him It's literally him, Sierra Sierra Daddy Me, Noonie Baby Future The chef And two nannies and three dogs. And Baby Future at that time was bad as hell. Hey, I got a question. I got an answer for you too. Why is he sharing the information anyway? Because. See, that's what...

43:43Shannon Sharpe:Now, Chad, now you see why I don't have a whole lot of mofos at my house. See, he worried about somebody else's family. Your black ass there. He invited you. he looked at you like family and what you do turn around and got dialed him out you think you said it telling something man i went to russell house that mansion it was weird yeah because he had an outsider in there that was the weird part about it that's why you don't let people come to your house uh chat nobody first of all no me and my brother had money guess what thanksgiving wall ways at. Granny's house. Even though we couldn't get back, it was always going to be there.

44:24Shannon Sharpe:When we had a big ass cookout on your, guess where it was? In Granny's backyard. Damn. I don't get it. I'm confused. Why is everybody always looking for a moment? Why is everybody always looking for a moment to go viral or to get your love 15 minutes? He lets you into his home on Thanksgiving, a special date. Okay, if the family wasn't there, maybe they don't get along. Maybe they don't see the eye to eye. I mean, just... I don't... I don't get it. I don't get it either, Ocho. I don't understand. His family wasn't there, but you was there. But you take this opportunity now years later. To talk about it.

45:06Shannon Sharpe:Because Russ ain't been in Seattle for a long period of time. Right. And now you bring this up. Because you try to... Oh, guess who was there? Sierra Daddy Noonie Baby Future The Chef For the most part I have a get together I'm catering it Yeah I just don't get Bro I don't get that Why you put this man This man invited you into his home You tell him what's happening inside this man's home That's why see And people are like man You anti-social should know. I'm anti people running their damn mouth. Ain't nobody that man invited you into his home. Ultra, I guarantee Russ don't invite a whole lot of people into his home.

45:59Shannon Sharpe:For the most part they say Russ was standoffish. He's not. He invited your ass into his home and the things that he get, no good deed, goes unpunished. This is the things he get. I don't blame Russ now I see why Russ don't F with a whole lot of people I'm sorry Russ that you had to find out the hard way that some ninjas ain't ish that's messed up and he think he's saying something on Choke he got his hat caught to the side he swear he's just like oh these nuclear codes let me tell you what's going on let me tell you about the agreement that the Ukraine is about to sign with the Russians he's giving some information like that talking at it.

46:42Shannon Sharpe:Man. That's messed up. Damn. I don't worry about what somebody in somebody's relationship is with their family. That ain't got nothing to do with me. At all. I don't know what his family done to him. I don't know what he's done to them. I don't know. But for whatever reason, they weren't there. It doesn't bother me because guess where I'm at? I'm here. Right. I'm going to eat. I don't worry. If I go somewhere, Ocho, I'll be honest to God's honest truth. I don't worry about who's not there. I concern myself with who's here. Okay. Man, invite me in. Okay. I've been invited to places. Ain't nobody know.

47:33Right.

47:34Shannon Sharpe:I ain't take no pictures. I ain't tell nobody. if they wanted people to know they'd have told who they wanted to know and they'd have been there. It was mentioned they didn't mention nothing about me because I slept in and slept out the back door. But there's some bulljive chat. I don't care. Y 'all can't convince me that this is oh he should oh you know that man just tell it no this man he got no business telling what that man got going on in his house. I don't care if he had four dogs sitting at the table that's his table and he invited your ass in yeah we should know that honestly we shouldn't know anything about that at all that's personal information it's personal and then Ocho guess what he did that time baby future was back now you talking about the baby too They're kids For the most part you get kids They're going to be a certain They don't want to sit down Eat your food That's a part of having a kid Maybe he doesn't have kids He doesn't understand they're all bad They're all bad Ocho I promise you For the most part The more money you have the more likely When you have an event it's going to be catered Right that's just the way it is now some people their mom or their grandma say baby I want to cook okay granted you ain't got to no baby I want to do it I know if I had something big for my family oh it's getting catered I ain't cooking nothing as a matter of fact the only time the oven and stove gonna be turned on is to reheat some ish Well, honestly, you know, the women normally do all the cooking, huh?

49:37Shannon Sharpe:But I'm just saying, Ocho. Oh, in general. Look, it was a mansion. It wasn't nobody there. It should have been one minus one. Your ass shouldn't have been there. Yeah.

49:51Shannon Sharpe:Sierra, ain't nobody ask you that. Oh, that's crazy. I don't know why. Why? that's messed up

50:06Shannon Sharpe:I just don't get it why would he do that Ocho? I don't know the man invited you okay let me ask you a question why you didn't take your podcast to your family? since we talking about family where was your family?

50:25obviously this was on a podcast in order to do a podcast you have to have stories

50:29Shannon Sharpe:He wasn't on no podcast when his ass was at Russell Wilson's house. So he's talking about Russ's family wasn't there. Where was his family? Right. You in the NFL. So clearly you got money. Why didn't you find your family in? You worried about whatever. And he's sponsored by an airline. Why you counting that man's pockets? The hell ain't got to do with anything.

50:57Shannon Sharpe:I still want to know where was your family your mom your dad your aunties your uncles your family your brothers where were they I don't know you talk about what Russell didn't have at his yeah he said so he invited you to his house so clearly they thought you were going to be alone Yeah, and we thought you was cool. Yes! You probably didn't have family to go to for Thanksgiving, and we welcomed you with open arms. I spent a million Thanksgiving by myself when I was in Denver Ocho. Right. I'd go to the 7-Eleven, get them sandwiches that you put in the microwave, and take my black ass home. I'm cool with it.

51:41Shannon Sharpe:Call it a day, huh? I call it a day. One time, I'm trying to think, who else did I went to? I think maybe Burns I think Burns was the only place maybe I think Monica I think Reggie who's a tight end endeavor I think Monica cooked one year and I went over there but for the most part I was by myself and I was cool with that and my teammates would invite me hey Sharp I know you're going to be by yourself you want to come over man I'll let you know you'll never go but I don't go to people house the one time I did I did go to somebody's house and I had to tell you about it that 70 million dollar question but I would never go to somebody's house and talk about what wasn't there man you thought enough of me to invite me into your place and then I'm going to go get on a podcast and try to dump on you yeah that's crazy I'm going to dump on your son talking about oh he was bad that's crazy

52:48Shannon Sharpe:you're looking for that moment I just hate that man I hate that Russ don't bother nobody you can like or dislike but he don't bother nobody he ain't out there talking about nobody the man found somebody that made him happy at the end of the day he and Sierra I'm on the outside Ocho just like everybody else but it seems like they have a really good marriage yeah they have ups and downs yeah they have disagreements that's what a marriage is marriage is work It's just like you don't get the job, Ocho. It's just like, okay, that's it. No, you have to work. A marriage, you get into a relationship, everything is chummy, but you have to work every day.

53:23Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And I get that. But for y 'all, for people to try to take a shot at the man in his house, if you want to say you see me walking down the street and you say, that man, he ain't speak to me. You can say, you know what, he ain't, and I don't, I'm not, you know, I'm on the plane, Ocho. I got my headset on and people trying to talk and I've just, for this very reason. You see, Ocho? Mm-hmm. You see? Yeah. You start carrying on conversation. Yeah, I talked to him. Oh, he told me all this stuff. I talked to him for hours. You see how you, now you see why, Ocho. Now you see why. Yeah.

54:00I've never been able to do that. Anything I do, it always stays in house.

54:06Shannon Sharpe:Yes, it should. It always stays in house. and there is definitely not for the public that's a no no that's a no no you go somebody house I ain't even don't ask me I don't know man what was such and such there I don't even know man I was just there yesterday oh man you don't give up nobody intel like that man the man invited you in if somebody is nice enough to invite you in The last thing you do is to try to paint them in a negative light. Yeah. And what's the point? What's the point?

54:49I don't know. There's nothing to game.

54:52Shannon Sharpe:Maybe they wanted to celebrate on their own. Maybe they didn't want to fly away out of Seattle. Where's Russ? Russ is from Virginia, right? He's from the East Coast, isn't he? Maybe they didn't want to fly away to Seattle and take a six-hour plane ride. Cincinnati

55:13Shannon Sharpe:yeah I thought yeah I don't get it man I am so sorry man I was listening to this old show and the more he talked he wasn't even talking about me the more he talked my grandma used to say boy the more you talk the mad I get I mean it just lets you... Oh, Joe, babe, I swear. That's crazy. How you go to somebody's house? Man, you know who house I was at yesterday? Mm-mm. I wouldn't even let that information out. Thank you. Ain't nobody been in. Thank you. Let alone on the show. Nah, come on now.

55:59Oh, Lord have mercy.

56:01Shannon Sharpe:Man, Russ, I am so sorry.

56:06Shannon Sharpe:I only met Russ a handful of times. I met him in his rookie season. Had a great conversation with him. You could tell that he was serious about football. Asked a bunch of questions. Man, how did you win the Super Bowl? What was John Elway like? What did y 'all do? Y 'all close? What was y 'all this? Asked a bunch of questions. Yeah. Yeah, as a matter of fact,

56:30Shannon Sharpe:it was at the Super Bowl in New Orleans when the 49ers played the Ravens. That was his rookie season. Oh, where everything went out. Remember the lights went out? Lights went out, yeah. That's where it was. Man, Russ, I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry. Taking, he taking. Hey, these guys getting the way they talk.

57:01Shannon Sharpe:Real house husbands. Yeah. But the housewives, you know, these hug be... The real house husbands? Yeah. Ocho, Jackson Dart will start week 13 against the Patriots. He took the podium to share a classy tribute to his former head coach, Brian Dayball. Dart said, obviously, there's been a lot happened since I've been up here. I just want to acknowledge that Coach Dabbs and all he did for me. When I look back on everything, it's really special to come to a place where a coach genuinely cares about you and loves you, and you have that personal relationship on and off the field. I just have all the respect in the world for him.

57:38Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I don't know. Have you ever had a coach fired during the season? No, no. Obviously, no. I was in Cincinnati. I mean, that Mike Brown, and that's not their forte. No, come back. Cheap-ass Mike Brown ain't want to play nobody. That you're not working for me, and I'm going to pay you, and I got a guy asking coach, and I got to pay him too? Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah, I've never had that happen. No. No. I mean, I haven't had coaches fired during the season, but obviously I've had coaches fired after the season. And it's tough. It's tough, especially when you build up a relationship. You go like Coach Reed, Coach Reed drafted me.

58:17Shannon Sharpe:He was really smart to draft me, but he was, I don't know what, he lost his bump in his head because he forgot to cut me. Wade Phillips came in after Coach Reed and brought Jim Fossley, rest his soul who built his offense around a tight end when that was unheard of so when those guys and i kept a relationship with coach reeves right i kept a relationship with wade phillips and i see wade is just like because i owe a lot of my starting to wade because wade was a defensive coordinator in denver and told coach reed to put me in the game wade did that um put him in there Yeah, Coach Reed's drafted me and believed in me.

58:57Shannon Sharpe:And say, son, you can play in this league. He said, I've played in this league. I've coached in this league. You can play. You got what it takes to play in this league. He believed in me. Put a couple of plays in there. Hey, when I got in there, I said, I'm going to call this play. This play is just for you. One time he called a play for me, and I effed it up. He said, how you eff up your play? I get it if you mess up a play that's really not intended for you. But you're going to get the ball. Little by little. Man, I get so happy or I get so amped up on you. I forget everything. I forget everything.

59:37Shannon Sharpe:I did, man. I get so hyped, man. I just panic. Oh, man.

59:47Shannon Sharpe:But it's tough because this is what Jackson Dart knows. Brian Dayball personally selected him. Yeah. He wanted Jackson Dart. As his quarterback. That's the quarterback that he wanted. He wanted Jackson Dart. And Jackson Dart needs to understand one thing, Ocho. I understand you tough and it gets the crowd going and it ignites your team. But you not been to make no living running over no defensive players. Trying to run people over? Yeah, he tripping. Nope. He tripping. somebody somebody gonna somebody gonna get to him well they already got to him he done missed three did he miss three games with a concussion yeah but you know i he hard-headed he young he ain't finna listen it's gonna somebody gonna catch him clean and he'll be like you know what this ain't for me let me stay behind my computer let me stay behind my camera and do what i need to do from there copenhagen spit-free pouches are packed full of american-grown tobacco Made for welders.

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