In short
March Madness “Best of” recap, focusing on the women’s title games—UCLA winning the championship vs South Carolina—and a heated postgame incident between Geno Auriemma and Dawn Staley.
Guests
No podcast guests are named in the provided transcript. The hosts are “Ocho” and “Joe/Uncle Joe” (plus “Ocho” referring to himself), with no external guests appearing.
Guest backgrounds
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Key claims
- Geno Auriemma confronted Dawn Staley after the game, was separated, then later said he waited three minutes for a pregame handshake.
- Geno apologized to South Carolina’s staff/team but did not directly apologize to Staley; hosts call it “fake” and argue he should have apologized personally.
- Hosts claim South Carolina “dominated” defensively and that Geno’s foul/officials comments were unjustified.
Notable examples
- UCLA’s 28-point title win (never trailed), Lauren Betts named most outstanding player.
- UCLA held South Carolina to 29% field and 13% three-point shooting; Betts had 16 points; Gabrielle Hawkins and Kiki Rice contributed key late free throws.
- Discussion of Sarah Strong and A.Z. Fudd performances and South Carolina missing layups/bunnies.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOGeno Auriemma vs. Dawn Staley Controversy
8:20 to 14:01
Dive into the heated exchange between Gino Auriemma and Dawn Staley following the game.
“And that's, anytime, you have to, it has to have, it has to be personal.”
Geno Auriemma's Controversial Comments
14:01 to 19:31
The hosts discuss Geno Auriemma's remarks about Dawn Staley and their implications.
“Cause I know there are some guys that, hey, when they winning, they running around and act like they're on a damn hoverboard.”
Building Winning Programs in Women's Basketball
19:31 to 23:10
Exploration of what it takes to build a successful women's basketball program, focusing on various coaches.
“She played for him and coached with him.”
UCLA vs. Texas: Game Analysis
25:40 to 28:00
Analysis of the recent game between UCLA and Texas, including player performances.
“We've had Kiki on, 11 points, including four key free throws in the final minute to see the win.”
Dating Tall Women: A Playful Debate
28:00 to 29:00
The hosts discuss their experiences and perspectives on dating women taller than them.
“She down there handling business too, boy.”
The Rarity of Tall Couples in Sports
29:00 to 30:30
The conversation shifts to the rarity of tall couples, particularly in the sports world.
“I said, have y 'all dated a girl taller than y 'all?”
Generational Views on Height in Dating
30:30 to 32:10
The hosts share insights from their families about dating norms related to height.
“Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're my people, yeah.”
Finding Proportionality in Tall Relationships
32:10 to 33:50
Discussion about the challenges of finding tall women who also fit traditional beauty standards.
“Nah, let me keep somebody a little, keep me a little five, little five, eight, five, five.”
The Appeal of Athletic Women
33:50 to 36:20
The hosts reminisce about their attraction to athletic women, particularly volleyball players.
“The volleyball girls, different ain't they, huh?”
March Madness Predictions: UConn vs. Michigan
36:20 to 38:00
The hosts make predictions for the upcoming UConn vs. Michigan game in March Madness.
“Hey, ain't nothing wrong with being vulnerable in that position, man, you know, for a change.”
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Bracket Banter and Disagreements
42:01 to 42:40
The hosts discuss their bracket choices and celebrate their wins and losses.
“Yeah, so both of y 'all want to go against the grain.”
UCLA's Historic Championship Victory
46:33 to 53:54
A detailed analysis of UCLA's victory in the Women's NCAA Championship, including standout performances.
“Blow out the Lady Gamecocks to win their very first Women's NCAA Championship.”
Transcript
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3:20Geno Auriemma:The South Carolina Lady Gamecocks beat the UConn Huskies 62-48 in the final seconds. Gino Auriemma approached Don Staley for a post-game handshake and then angrily got in her face before Don started firing back. The two were separated, but Don kept shouting towards the bench before walking away. Geno walked off to the tunnel alone. In his post-game news conference, Geno said he was frustrated because he waited three minutes for a pregame handshake with Don. He also said he did not regret the comments he made to Holly Rowe during the broadcast about the lack of fouls against South Carolina. It said Don rants and raves at the officials and called referees some names you don't want to hear.
3:58Geno Auriemma:Clearly, someone got through to Geno because this morning he issued a statement saying, there are no excuses for how to handle the end of the game versus South Carolina. It's unlike what I do and what our standard is here at Connecticut. I want to apologize to the staff and the team at South Carolina. It was uncalled for how I reacted. The story should have been how well South Carolina played, and I don't want my actions to distract from that. I have a great relationship with their staff, and I sincerely want to apologize to them, Gino Oriyama. Well, I'm glad you apologized because we about to tear your ass up, Gino.
4:31Geno Auriemma:But anyway, Ocho, Joe, we still going to tear his ass up. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he was dead wrong.
4:38Dawn Staley:Yeah, hey, dead wrong. Hey, Uncle Joe, listen, as a coach, especially a winning coach like Gino, you have to be able, you should understand, and you have to learn how to win with grace and lose with grace. When you beat Ms. Staley last time, you was all smiles, all smiles, happy hugs, ready to, you know, whatever it may be. And the fact that you say some things to Hollyro and saying that in the game that Don Staley probably influenced the rest because y 'all guys didn't get the calls necessary. Listen, South Carolina, they didn't just beat y 'all. They dominated in every aspect of the game. They played great defense.
5:15Dawn Staley:They just did. That wasn't getting beat. That was getting your ass whipped. That's all it was. I mean, listen, your team got embarrassed. You got to be able to lose with grace as well. Okay, you didn't get the three-minute handshake or you waited three minutes before pregame. What is that? That had, so you see him. She did take his hand. Yeah.
5:37Geno Auriemma:She shook his hand.
5:39Dawn Staley:In pregame? Well, why'd he say she shook his hand?
5:41Geno Auriemma:Yeah, before the game, she shook his hand, man. Oh, so he's upset and he had to wait three minutes? Why did he even bring that up? He's upset. He was the favorite. They blew South Carolina out last year. They were favorite. They got two All-American, first-team All-American. Yeah. They might have the player of the year in Sarah Strong. Sarah, hey, she nice. But, but, South Carolina beat them. And so this is, I thought I was gonna win, I was supposed to win, and I got beat. Yeah. That's what this was about. This was a sore loser. Yeah. A damn handshake. Yeah. Undefeated season, you know he was softy, bro.
6:20Geno Auriemma:He was softy. And how about not just apologizing to the coaching staff, you know, give a personal apology to Dawn Staley. You know what I mean? Like, bro, for you to get in her face like that and talk stuff to her after the game, man, just congratulate and move on. I understand, you know, in the heat of the battle, you know, we get a little pissed off. You know, like I said, he was on the brink to having an undefeated season, Anke Ocho. Yeah. And like Anke said, he was a heavy favorite, but man, them girls from South Carolina came. They just outplayed him. They outplayed him, bro. They outplayed him.
6:50Geno Auriemma:They dogged him. They dogged him, and he couldn't take it. He couldn't take it. No, no, don't say South Carolina. You didn't do this to South Carolina. You was in Don Staley's face. That's what I'm talking about. Apologize, say, you know what? I want to apologize to the staff and I want to personally apologize to Don Staley. Now you told a lie because you said you had a great relationship with the staff. You don't. You said before, they asked you after the game, do you have a relationship? You said no. So were you lying then or you're lying now? Right, right.
7:17Dawn Staley:Hey. And you know what? Whoever wrote that apology to Uncle Joe for him. Chat GPT, allegedly. That too. And he know if you're going to apologize to someone. Allegedly. Yeah, if you're going to apologize to someone, you apologize to the person you had the altercation with. You didn't have an altercation with the staff.
7:33Geno Auriemma:That's what I'm saying.
7:34Dawn Staley:You didn't have an altercation with the entire entity of South Carolina. That apology has been directed straight to Don Staley and nobody else.
7:42Geno Auriemma:Yeah, and the fact that he was dead wrong, talking about, oh, my player got a ripped jersey. Hell, she ripped her own damn jersey. She ripped her own damn jersey. Yeah, she ripped her own jersey. I've been coaching 40 years and I've never had a player ripped jersey. Well, I guess you never had a plan to get that upset then. Cause she ripped that on her own damn jersey. Like, just dead wrong. Just, you know, you dead wrong like that, bro. Just apologize. Make a personal apology to Don. That's what I felt like it should have been. But I just felt like he was dead wrong, bro. Dead wrong. Don said I beat Gino ass.
8:12Geno Auriemma:I'ma beat Gino ass. Oh, you read her lips? You read her lips too? No, you don't read her lips. You go in the audio. That's what she's saying. Yeah, you hear. OK, OK, OK. Hey, Don from Philly, OK, Ocho, she ain't playing. North Philly. Yeah, she about to get to it. Damn. And that's, anytime, you have to, it has to have, it has to be personal. Yes. Because what you did was personal. Yeah. Okay, you want to apologize to your institution because the way you behave and put them in a negative light? You can say that. I want to apologize to my university also. But you did this to Don. You didn't do this to your entire staff.
8:50Geno Auriemma:You did this to one individual. Now, whatever the case may be, I don't know where it goes back from, but he had a very contentious relationship with Pat Summitt, the University of Tennessee. Yeah. It was very contentious. I know I had the lovely opportunity of meeting Pat in New York at the Sky Club at LaGuardia. Had a great time. I said, Ms. Summitt, how you just call me, Pat? You know, so forth and so on. But, Gino, you was wrong. Yeah, man. Your apology, I appreciate it, but it needs to have a personal touch to it. It needs to say, I apologize to the person that I spoke out of turn to, that I approached, that I probably said something that I shouldn't say.
9:30Geno Auriemma:I don't know what he said. But the way you behave is that you took a lot of the steam out of the sale of South Carolina because what we should be talking about is that South Carolina did what many didn't think they could do, beat an undefeated team, a reigning champion with two All-Americans, and they did it on the defensive end. Yeah. Yeah, there had some ladies that rose to the occasion offensively, but this was a defense. You look at what Sarah Strong shot. You look at what A.Z. Fudd shot. And that'll tell you everything that you need to know. For you to not have a personal touch and say, I'd like to apologize first and foremost to Dawn Staley.
10:07Geno Auriemma:Yeah. She's a hell of a coach. She's reviving. Look here. The Gamecocks, when you think about the Gamecocks, you think about their women's basketball team. You don't think about the football team. And they had a baseball team, had good baseball team. good track program with Sarge Frye. But when you think of South Carolina Gamecocks, you think of Don Staley and the Lady Gamecocks. Absolutely. Absolutely. And so for you not to talk about the staff, you said you do not have a personal relationship with Don Staley. And I'm not saying that you have to. Yeah, yeah. That's fine. But your behavior would suggest that you need to have personally apologized to her.
10:47Geno Auriemma:I appreciate you apologizing to the University of South Carolina and their staff, but they got to have a little more personal touch to it. That's what apology, because apology, in order for you to, for you, an individual, because what you did was to an individual, you need to personally apologize to said individual. Absolutely. Go ahead, don't you? What do you want to say? Honestly, and, you know, excuse my language, man, fuck that apology.
11:17Dawn Staley:Most of the time it takes for somebody to get angry, for them to show their true colors and how they really feel.
11:22Geno Auriemma:Yeah, yeah.
11:23Dawn Staley:Yeah, I mean, that's all it is. And then on top of that, the fact that he didn't apologize directly to her, it lets you know how he really feel. Right, right. When you winning, when you winning all is good. When you winning, you smile.
11:37Geno Auriemma:When he was on the sideline, the clock's running down, he got his hands all up there.
11:41Dawn Staley:Hey, smiling.
11:42Geno Auriemma:Yeah, yeah. New comeback where we supposed to be. Yeah, yeah.
11:47Dawn Staley:Hey, that fake ass apology, man, that wasn't no apology, man.
11:50Geno Auriemma:He didn't even write it. But check this out. Can y 'all imagine what Dawn Staley was like in the locker room after the game? Like, way to kick that mother ? You know what I mean? Of course. You know she was going off like that. Wait a minute. Hey, that's what I would have been like. I'm like, man.
12:05Dawn Staley:Wait. Wait a minute, Joe and Unc. Hold on. You think it's bad because Gino did this. Imagine if the motherfucking roles was flipped. Boy. Yeah. Man, it would have been World War III.
12:18Geno Auriemma:Yeah. They'd have been talking big stuff about Don. Man, listen. You got to be just as gracious in victory as you are in defeat. Now, think about it. Think about Gino. Gino's been coaching 20, 40 years. He's been to 25 Final Fours. He's won 12 championships. So somebody has been on the losing end 12 times. Gino is 12 and 1. in national championship games. Dang him. South Carolina beat him a couple years ago. He's 12-1. So 12 times somebody had to walk across the floor, across the court aisle, and shake his hand after they got their ass tore up. Yeah. You look at the women that he's coached, from Taurasi and Lobo and Maya Moore and Charles and Breonna Stewart, and the list goes on and on.
13:13Geno Auriemma:He's winning three out of four. Breonna Stewart didn't lose a national championship game. So for four straight years, this man, he up there, cheats, kee, kee, kee in the people's face. Yeah. Now, the one time you're supposed to win and you didn't, you behave like this. Remember, you're as gracious in victory as you are in defeat. Nobody likes to lose. Everybody's talking about, man, I'm a sore. I hate when people say, well, I hate to lose. If you had that, once you get to a certain level, everybody hates to lose. You put all that damn time in, all these girls done put all this time in and been away from their families and doing all this stuff.
13:52Geno Auriemma:Nobody wants to lose, but it's a part of it. But when they lose, they don't act like a jackass. Man, that kills me. I hate what guy, oh, I'm a so, yeah. It bothers me, anybody. Cause I know there are some guys that, hey, when they winning, they running around and act like they're on a damn hoverboard. But when they lose Ocho, they can't be found. Well, you know, I didn't want it. No, no, no, no. But they couldn't get you to shut up. Yeah, yeah. Nah, don't do that. Don't do that. Yeah, I just didn't expect that from Gino, bro. I just felt like he was a classy individual, and I thought that he would be much better than that.
14:35Geno Auriemma:Like, blaming Don on how she talked to the ref. Man, come on, man. We're in between the lines. Like he ain't never saying something out of line to the ref. Come on, man. But that ain't your job. That's the ref. You ain't no ref. You a cult. And stop dry snitching.
14:49Dawn Staley:Yeah. And the way he said it, the way he explained it, is as if Dawn screaming or saying whatever she's saying to the referees is influencing the ref's call in the game. Right. Then he follows it up with the fouls. Yeah. What? What are we talking about, baby? You got whooped. You lost. Yes. You don't lose often, but tonight you lost.
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15:15Geno Auriemma:Yeah. What about that, Ocho? The man, the one, he won like 112-something games. He won like three straight years and never lost a game.
15:28Geno Auriemma:Ain't nobody did what he did to him with Don Staley. That's what he did to Don. They didn't do that to him. Don took that ass with it. I think they beat the Carolina last year. They beat them, I think they beat them in South Carolina, beat them by about 30 or 40, and they beat them by another 20, 30 last year, the championship game. Yeah, Dunn got some dogs over there on the Ocho. Oh, yeah. And Chloe Kitts, one of their best rebounding girls, she hurt. Yeah, yeah. But McKeer and Lassen and Raven Johnson, all those, hey, them girls came to play. Yeah. They came to play. They knew what was that state.
16:04Geno Auriemma:They came to play last night, and I just hope they can finish it off. Yeah. It's going to be anticlimactic if they take down Goliath and they don't take care of UCLA. UCLA, they got a big girl down there who ain't playing. Laura Betts.
16:18Dawn Staley:Yeah, she nice.
16:22Geno Auriemma:But Carolina going to play some defense now. They don't do nothing else. They going to play defense. They going to hang to have some defense. Because that's what Dawn was. Dawn was a – hey, she could put the ball in the basket, but Dawn was a hound. Yeah, and she got some girls who can go off the bounce, though. I'm talking about get to that chicken, Uncle Ocho. Yeah. Like, you know, it's different when you got girls who out there moving like dudes. You see what I'm saying? Who handling that rock like a dude. Like, that's when you like, hold on, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah, for real. That's why I be looking up.
16:52Geno Auriemma:Like, hold on, that girl got that thing on a string, don't she? Mm-hmm. So. But Carolina did it. The Lady Gamecocks has an opportunity to win their third national championship in four years. For what she's done to that program, Wow. Man. Basically, that's what you got to do because for the most part, when you get a program, you build it up. Look at Geno. Geno was there for 40 plus. It's been at UConn for 40 years. Pat was there for 35, 40 years. Tom Vanderveer at Stanford, 35, 40 years. You look at these ladies, Kim Mulkey, when she was at Baylor, she built that program up. Yeah. So basically, you got to build a program.
17:34Geno Auriemma:You just got to build it. You got to be a great players coach to where these kids that's coming to your school, they got to really truly believe that you got their back. And I feel like with Dawn, you know, she in TikTok, she in Instagram Reels. You know what I mean? That's relatable to these kids because that's all they want to do. You know what I mean? They want to have fun, do stuff like that at the same time. If you giving me everything that I'm asking for on the court, 100 % on offense and defense, man, I do all the TikToks y 'all want to do. What did she do? She let her team pick out a bag, a Louis Vuitton bag.
18:11Geno Auriemma:I think she let Jackson State and them get sneakers. I think she's just, I've never met Don, but she just strikes me as an all-around good player, a good person. She wants to, hey, look, she a hard worker. You can tell she a hard worker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, and she demands, she demands a certain level of respect. Yeah, yeah. And the women gravitate towards that. They know A. Once a coach establishes what he expects or she expects, and they don't waver. There you go. Yeah, shout out to Dawn, man. She came and hollered at us when I was playing in the big three. This one I was playing with the triplets, and Lisa Leslie was our head coach.
18:59Geno Auriemma:You know, Lisa Leslie played together at USA. You know, they dolls. Yeah. Know what I mean? So she came in there and talked to us, bro. Like, you know, just gave us a little pep talk before the game. And I thought that was cool. So I got much love and respect for her. I like how she handled herself, you know, after that game the other day. Because I'm going to tell you, I would have been the same way. Hell, I wouldn't have been surprised she jumped on Gino's ass. I was like, boy, look. She's like, I can't whip it. I can't whip it in front of all these folks. But hold on. Wasn't Don under Gino at the US team?
19:29Geno Auriemma:Yeah. They coached in the Olympics in 20. So 21. I think she played for him too. She played for him and coached with him. He was a coach? Because I know I think Pat coached for a number of years.
19:54Geno Auriemma:But if I'm not, she might be, is she still the USA basketball, US women's basketball coach, head coach? Yeah. and 21.
20:12Geno Auriemma:Tell you me, I mean, our women have lost a gold medal since, I think, what, 92, 96? We don't want 2004, 8, 12, 16, 21, 24. So we don't want seven straight times. They don't even have no competition, though. No. Nah. They too good. Because we go, I mean, we We bring, I mean, we got Stewie. Our big is Stewie and Asia. And then we got guards out the yin yang. We got Kaitlyn Clark, we got Inescu, we got Chelsea, we got Jackie Young. Yeah. They can't help with us. Them girls. Too many. Them girls. We got Fee. Yeah. They can't fool with us. Them girls in Gold Boy.
21:01in 2021 there. Okay. And then Cheryl Reeves.
21:06Geno Auriemma:Okay, Cheryl Reeves, okay. So who's going to be the coach in 28? Reeves again? Okay. But you know, you better than that, Gino. All the... I mean, it's... Huh? Carol Lawson, okay. Duke, okay. Oh, yeah. She coaching the USA thing? Yeah, she's going to be the coach in 28. I like Carol Lawson. She good. I like her a lot too. But you notice it's always, it's mainly the coaches that win a lot and then when they lose, show they, cause you know who else was like that? You know you play for a mocho. Bill Belichick. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Wanna run off the field and don't talk and be getting short with the answers.
21:56Geno Auriemma:It's always the people that win. Bro, you don't win and coaches have to answer the question and talk about how great that play call was and how you went for it and all of this and that. They got to just allude you with a praise and adulation. Now you lose a game. He give you one win now. Oh, yeah. Big time. Got to play better. Coach better. That's it.
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25:39Geno Auriemma:11 rebounds, three blocks, but a crucial one late in the ballgame. Kiki Rice. We've had Kiki on, 11 points, including four key free throws in the final minute to see the win. And fellow guards, Gabrielle Hawkins, whose brother, Jamie, plays at the Miami Heat, and Gianna Nipikens.
26:04Geno Auriemma:Each had 10. I thought Texas, because Texas got a girl. I think it's Booker. I think Booker, she wears KD number 35. You see what she shot from the field? Boy, they did a number on her. She missed 17 straight shots, Joe and Ocho. Before she hit that last one late, I think you put them within four or three. But she was, oh, she was bad. She got plenty of game, Uncle Ocho. I done seen her play a few times this year. But she won three of 23 for six points, bro. Yeah. And look, they ain't even lose by that many. I thought if she could have just played decent, oh, they beat them. Yeah. If she played, if she played.
26:41Geno Auriemma:and here's another thing. They shot five free throws, Joe. So that tells me they're not aggressive. It tells me they're settling for jumpers. Yeah, yeah. She's 0-4 from the three-point line and then she didn't shoot a free throw. Their starter, only one starter shot a free throw. Let that sink in. Only one starter from the University of Texas shot a free throw. Man. Yeah. Hey, Bits did a number on them, though. 11 boards, 16.7 for 10. She can play, I like her game. Oh, she tall, she's 6 '4". I think she taller than that. It's gonna be a game. It's gonna be a game tomorrow. It's gonna be can, can, can.
27:21Geno Auriemma:How does UCLA handle the pressure of the Lady Gamecocks? Yeah, yeah. When they play, huh? Tomorrow at like 2.30 or something. 2.30? Well, I'm glad, I'm, you know, I'm glad they moved it in front of the men because before Joe and Ocho, you know, So I think they were playing. Wasn't they playing after the men? At one point in time, they were playing like on a Tuesday. Or have they always played on a Sunday? I think they always play a day before the men. Joe, do you remember, Joe, Ocho? In the men's Final Four, they used to play a consolation game. Uh-uh. The two teams that lost, so like Arizona and Illinois would play.
28:03Geno Auriemma:Oh, no, I ain't never. I ain't known that. Yeah, they used to do that, Joe. I'd be pissed off. I wouldn't even want to play.
28:12Geno Auriemma:Oh, they say Bent 6 '7", damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's 6 '7". She down there handling business too, boy. She's 6' what? Damn it. 6 '7". Woo! Hey, hey, the thing is, hey, she can't, hey, she better buy her a Cooper flag because she can't wear nothing but flip flops with a guy. Ain't no way she can put on no, she put on four-inch heels, Joe, she damn damn self-putting tall. Hey, could y 'all date a girl taller, y 'all? Yeah, yeah, I done been there. I done been there before, though. You dated a girl taller? Hey, Joe, in 2017, they moved it from Tuesday to Sunday. I knew they used to come on. I was like, bro, y 'all anticlimactic.
28:49Geno Auriemma:You got guys hitting buzzer beaters. Carolina hitting the, Villanova hitting the buzzer beater. How you top that? Yeah. Go before the men. Damn. Hey, Joe, what'd you ask me, Joe? I said, have y 'all dated a girl taller than y 'all? I have not. Ocho say he have. Yeah, you know, Joe had one by 6 '5". Did you really?
29:12Dawn Staley:Yeah, 6 '6", yeah.
29:13Geno Auriemma:But if you from the south or from the country, you know you can climb a tree.
29:16Dawn Staley:Yeah, I was just getting ready to say that. Joe, you ain't never climbed no tree, nobody taller than you?
29:21Geno Auriemma:Bad Joe firing somebody. She going to be 7 foot tall. Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, you say - The hell you went to the Amazon? Right, Ocho, you say y 'all the same size when you lay down, huh? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, boy. Joe must have got one of the most Sudanese women from the. Nah. I ain't. Hey, I ain't no. Hold on. What's the guy? Luau Deng. Those are the tallest women on average. Is he Sudanese? I think he's Sudanese. They have the tallest women on average, Joe. Yeah, I ain't never date no girl taller than me. I'm 6 '7", 6 '8". I mean, damn. I'm dating somebody 6 '9"?
29:57Dawn Staley:Hold on. But hey, Joe, hold on. Most of the time, Joe, when you was playing ball like in high school and in college, you dated other hoopers, right? No? Yeah, I dated. Yeah, yeah.
30:06Geno Auriemma:You dated hoopers, Joe? Yeah, the girl I dated when I was in high school and college, she played ball. She hooped. How tall she was? She was about 5 '6". 5 '7". I'm talking about somebody like 6 '0". No, man. No, no, no. You know, you don't never really, that's rare. Yeah, you don't never really see two tall people together. Bam, bam and Asia. I said it's rare, Ocho. Oh, my bad. Lisa Leslie and her husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're my people, yeah. Oh, buddy, buddy, buddy. I think Lisa like six, four, six, five, and I think he like six, six, six, seven. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Merton Hanks and his wife, you remember Merton Hanks, Ocho?
30:48Geno Auriemma:Yeah. Yeah, his wife, his wife, hell, his wife might be taller than him. Mert, yeah, Mert one time. Mert like 6 '3". She got a, I think she about 6 '4". Hey, I'll tell you what. No, I've never dated a woman. But Miss Betts, unless she get, unless she get Nicola Jokic or the dude from Florida that's 7 '9", she can't wear no heels. Right. Hey, but that's how you get you a monster though, boy. You get your, because if the woman's tall, the child probably pretty much gonna be tall. It has a lot to do with the woman. Yeah, I tried, I tried, Joe. I tried, bro. You tried?
31:22Dawn Staley:You ain't got no tall kids, Ocho? I mean, yeah, they all tall. They all tall, but I'm just saying at that time, during that time, I was like, hey, listen. And they were like, nah, it ain't the right time. I'll catch you later on in life. I'm like, listen, I ain't got time to waste. Yeah.
31:38Geno Auriemma:I mean, I've dated women my height, six foot. I mean, my height. But not somebody like 6 '3", 6 '4", 6 '5". Yeah, that's an age.
31:46Dawn Staley:If she put on heels, then she taller than you.
31:50Geno Auriemma:Well. Hey, she gotta wear clogs or sandals. But the thing is, you know, my grandma and grandfather used to say, boy, if you date a woman taller than you, the first thing she get mad is she gonna hit you in your head. So I always thought like, you know what? Nah, let me keep somebody a little, keep me a little five, little five, eight, five, five.
32:18Dawn Staley:Damn.
32:18Geno Auriemma:I said, no, I never dated a woman my height. Oh, okay, my bad. I've never dated a woman my height. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I mean, taller than me, my height, 6 '2". I've dated one 6 '2". I've never dated one 6 '3", 6 '4", 6 '5". Definitely not no... Man, 6 '5"? Yeah, 6 '2"? Don't be scared, y 'all. Don't be scared. Hey, I like for them to get on their tiptoes to kiss me. What I look like on my tiptoes kissing a woman? Ain't nothing wrong with that, Unk. Man, you out your damn mind. Ain't nothing wrong with that. 6 '2' kind of tall though, Unk, for a woman. Yeah, I know. It is. Joe, what you think about, see I'm on my tiptoes kissing her.
32:56Geno Auriemma:Ain't nothing wrong with that. Now you know Joe, most of the time, women have been on their tiptoes kissing you. Yeah. You ain't been on your tiptoes kissing no damn woman. Yeah. Hey.
33:06Dawn Staley:Hey. Hey, you never know.
33:08Geno Auriemma:You never know till you try it. I'm good. I'm good. I done got old nine. I'm shrinking. So. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Defying girls that tall, they they far few in between boy hey you got to be in the right place yeah yeah yeah that's i'm talking about that's tall and proportion right i'm talking right y 'all know what i'm talking about i got kids i mean i know what you're talking about joe i'm with you i'm picking up what you're putting down baby that's uh what you say joe i said you know it's hard to find a girl that's tall and she proportion right yeah the right yeah yeah you know what i'm talking about black out black out yeah No, you gotta get a volleyball player then.
33:49Geno Auriemma:You're right, you're right.
33:55Geno Auriemma:The volleyball girls, different ain't they, huh? Are they? Hey. You know who, you know O'Shea? She has some legs on her, she's about five, she's about five eight? Yeah. I'm talking about good, 155. Ooh. Used to go to the games, huh? Nah, hell nah. When you was in college, you didn't go to the volleyball game? I'm trying to think that we have a volleyball team when I was in college. I was in the league. She had a, I think I was like 25. She was 20. No, I was 26. She was 22. Cause she had just got out of school. Right. That boy having tons of fun. Boy, it's something, hey. On average? Yes, sir. I don't know if I've ever seen one that wasn't fine.
34:44Geno Auriemma:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Now, if we'd have a track, now a track, women that throw the disc in the shot, whoo, love. Yeah. Yeah.
34:57Dawn Staley:Yeah, I remember them days, them days over and that old bro.
35:00Geno Auriemma:Man, there you go. Man, we ain't about to know what you like. You gonna have a 12, but you ain't gonna be but five, five.
35:08Dawn Staley:Nah, nah, nah, nah. You know, hey, listen, I've had, you know, all different heights and sizes and, you know, weights and ethnicities. And listen, I'm like Skittles, man. I'm every color, everything getting eight.
35:21Geno Auriemma:Hey, you gonna taste the rainbow. You heard what he said, Joe? You heard what he said, Joe? Everything getting eight. Yeah. You gotta taste the rainbow. He gonna taste the rainbow for sure. I mean, you got to, you know? You got to. Old fella. He just, he just working on, he just, he only, he an eighth degree, ninth degree, tongue-full master. He just keep getting different belts.
35:40Dawn Staley:Hey man, it's only one way to get that black belt. Sometimes, hey listen, sometimes you gotta set the standard, man. You know?
35:47Geno Auriemma:Hell no, Cho. But no, I couldn't imagine that, Joe, honestly. I couldn't, I mean, I wouldn't even feel like a man. I mean, if you're a guy and you're on your tiptoes to kiss the woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Joe, come on, Joe, you 6 '7", 6 '8". You on your tiptoes. No. That means she's 6 '9". I just can't even say that. I can't see it. I'm fine. You go out, she got on heels. You black tie, you got a tux on, she got on heels. I got these hard bottoms on. And they snap a picture, you on your tiptoes.
36:22Dawn Staley:Hey, ain't nothing wrong with being vulnerable in that position, man, you know, for a change. Man, stop it, Ocho. Hey, you and your soft era, ain't nothing wrong with that.
36:30Geno Auriemma:No.
36:31Dawn Staley:No? No, man. Come on, Ocho.
36:34Geno Auriemma:I'm just saying, I'm just saying, don't knock it till you try it. I'm just, look, if you're a short guy, probably if you're 5 '2", 5", there's a great chance if you're 5 '5", or under as a guy, you're probably going to end up marrying somebody taller than you. Yeah. Yeah. Because most of the time, you know, unless you, like, you know, you date a little person, a little person. But, I mean, sometimes they get, as a matter of fact, Brad Williams. You know, he married not a little person. She's taller than he is. but for the most part, if you a small guy, you're gonna probably end up with a tall woman.
37:12Geno Auriemma:I think smaller dudes, they kinda like that. They do. Yeah, they do. I think even when it comes to having an offspring and everything, they think about that. They think about, damn, I'm short, but if I give me a tall woman about 5 '9", 5 '10", and I ain't about to tell 5 '6", I might be all right. Yeah, you know, if they're in between. Yeah. I get somebody 5 '5", I'm 5 '5". Well, hey, we might have a little person.
37:39Dawn Staley:Mm-hmm.
37:41Geno Auriemma:There's nothing wrong with a little person. I'm just saying. Because you look at Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman.
37:49Geno Auriemma:Kanye 5 '5", but Kim 5 '2". Damn. We got our game on Monday night. We got the UConn Huskies taking on the Michigan Wolverines on a Monday night. Who you got? You can start with you, Ocho. Who you got? I got Michigan. I got, I got, I got, yeah, I got Michigan. I got Connecticut since Ocho got Michigan. I ain't got it.
38:12Dawn Staley:Damn, Ocho. Damn, Joe.
38:14Geno Auriemma:I ain't riding with you. I got Michigan. You want bet? You want bet? I mean, you got Michigan. I got Yukon. Let's bet something on it. All right, would you? You know what? Nah, let's not bet. Let's not bet. Let's not bet. Why? Who you got? Who you got? Ooh. Ooh, man, if Lindenburg wasn't hurt, I think I would take Michigan, but I might gotta go UConn, man. I don't know if they can beat UConn without him. Right, without him healthy, 100%.
38:43Dawn Staley:Yeah, I tell you what, I tell you what, since both of y 'all got UConn, right?
38:49Geno Auriemma:Yeah.
38:50Dawn Staley:Let's make a little small wager, a small wager that's feasible for me, where I won't miss it.
38:56Geno Auriemma:500 apiece. Listen, listen, listen Ocho. I already owe you an ass whooping. I just don't want it to get out of hand. You know what I mean? To where you owing me, to where you owing me now. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, Joe, look what he got on the back of it. Man, that's what I, we been talking about this already. You know that's your boy, that's me. I'm going to send it, I'm going to get it to Ash. Let Ash go ahead and send that to you. There you go. What size is it, Uncle? What size is it? Make sure I can. What you going, you going where? Yeah, I'm aware. Say it loud. Large, Joe. Large? I can squeeze in there.
39:31Geno Auriemma:I can get in there. I can get in. I'm going to look good. Hey, tell him, Joe, if you don't do nothing, take a picture in it.
39:38Dawn Staley:Hey. Hey. Come on. Hey, let's stick to business now. Let's stick to business. So we want to bet 500 or what? 500 apiece. What'd you think?
39:49Geno Auriemma:Should we trust him on this? It's only 500. You won't be 5 ,900 for three years. That's an emergency fund.
39:59Dawn Staley:So I guess the 500 is going to go to the emergency fund also. Nah, I'm going to pay. Matter of fact, I'm going to pay y 'all right on the spot on the show Monday night. I'm telling you. And Joe, for your sake, you better hope. You better hope. Because you talk about me owing you. If Michigan wins, if Michigan lose, I might not want to pay you just so you get mad.
40:26Geno Auriemma:See, you going to piss me off. And I'm going to whoop your ass. Like, you going to add to the ass whooping, Ocho. Don't do that. That's all I'm saying. I think you a good dude. I really think you a good dude. I really do. I'm a good dude, Joe. He just don't pay his debt. Unc, I hate for it to go down like this. You know what I mean? It's like a dude with a gun. Like, I got one. I don't really want to use it. But you know what I mean? Don't push me. You feel me? Hey, honestly, I think Joe barking up the wrong tree. Okay.
40:55Dawn Staley:Joe barking up the wrong tree, man.
40:59Geno Auriemma:All that, I think I'm a, damn, I want to pick Michigan so bad. Damn, I hate that Lindenburg got hurt. Hey, come on, you're not, he hurt.
41:08Dawn Staley:He got a little thigh contusion. He gonna be all right by Monday. Shit. Man, please. He gonna be all right by Monday. That man, that blood finna settle in that muscle. Yes, son. Hey, all they gonna do is get that Graston. That's what we call it, Graston, right? Oh, you talking about when they take that thing and - And just, yeah, right. Rub, rub, rub, and using that thing up. Man.
41:28Geno Auriemma:He gonna have to be doped up. Yeah, that thing hurt so bad. That thing hurt so bad. Yeah, it do. You ever had a contusion, Joe? Man, yeah, ain't nothing worse than that. What's it like you trying to chase a dude, and you get kneed in that quad? Woo! Yeah. It's a wrap. Ocho, you out about a week or two here. Hey, you got to get on that fast too, boy.
41:56Geno Auriemma:Who you taking, Joe? You taking Michigan? I don't know, I'm taking Connecticut. You taking UConn? Yeah.
42:01Dawn Staley:Ocho taking Michigan? Yeah, so both of y 'all want to go against the grain. Y 'all did the same thing when it came to making that bracket. And you see y 'all lost.
42:08Geno Auriemma:We all lost, Ocho.
42:10Dawn Staley:No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, listen, I lasted longer than you two. That's all that matters.
42:14Geno Auriemma:It don't matter. I lasted longer than you two.
42:19Dawn Staley:That's the key.
42:20Geno Auriemma:I was happy as hell, Arizona.
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46:43Geno Auriemma:Oh, UCLA, the Lady Bruins. Blow out the Lady Gamecocks to win their very first Women's NCAA Championship. In her 15th season at the helm, Corey Close pulled off what many didn't believe possible. The 28-point margin of victory is the third largest in Division I basketball women's championship history. UCLA never trailed, opened up a double-digit lead at the end of the first quarter en route to his 34th straight win to make history. Lauren Betts was named most outstanding player in the championship. Ooh, they put BTA to them girls today. Man, they did a number on them girls. From the start. It wasn't close.
47:25I mean, look, held them to 29 % shooting from the field,
47:31Geno Auriemma:13 % shooting from the three-point line. It was just too much size. Too much. Nick Kippins and Hawkins and Kiki Rice, they were the better team. It ain't no way around it. And it seemed like to me you could tell early on the Gamecocks was missing layups, missing bunnies. And I called my sister probably about five minutes into the game. I said, it's over. She said, the game just gets started. It's over. Their championship game was to beat UConn. They're not beating this team. They're all too big, making too many shots. They got off to such a slow start. Go ahead, Ocho.
48:07Dawn Staley:No, I was going to say they got off to a slow start, but that goddamn defense, huh? The defense was so suffocating. UCLA was putting, and they were scoring that goddamn well. You can tell there was a difference in understanding why UCLA, if I'm not mistaken, only lost one game this year.
48:23Geno Auriemma:They did.
48:23Dawn Staley:I think. And you can tell the difference in teams. Obviously, South Carolina is good, but UCLA is a much, much better team all the way around.
48:35Geno Auriemma:Yeah, I thought they had... I thought they physicality, them big girls at UCLA, obviously best, but I thought... What's her name? What's her name? Oh, Hawkins. Hawkins. Gabriella Hawkins. Ooh, I don't know how she ain't winning MVP. Did you see the look on Lauren Baird's face when they say she was the most outstanding player? She was shocked. Me too. I'm sorry. Me too. I was more shocked than you.
49:03Dawn Staley:Hawkins, that's young Bull's sister from all the heat, huh? Yeah.
49:07Geno Auriemma:She balled out. She balled out. I think their whole team balled out. Just from watching them, it seemed like they understood what was at stake. They had never, I don't think they ever been to the championship game.
49:18Dawn Staley:Nope. That was their first national championship, huh?
49:20Geno Auriemma:Yeah. Hey, man, them girls came out with their mind made up. Because I thought South Carolina, you know, they got some dogs, obviously, but they just didn't have a size to even compete. I mean, that girl Bits, she was – I mean, she had everybody at her mercy. They couldn't do nothing with her. Nope. Nah. 11 rebounds. I mean, she was sensational today. I mean, the whole team played. They deserved to win. Like you said, the size, they couldn't do anything with the size. They get picked, and then they get them in a pin down, and they just throw the ball over the top. It's a wrap. They just lay up.
49:52Geno Auriemma:Hawkins, the defense. Will you hold a team to 29 % from the field, 13 % from the three? It seemed like South Carolina got a lot of girls that's kind of similar in height. Like they all can kind of go off the bounce. They all can shoot a little bit, but they just don't have enough size in the paint to be able to withstand a bet. So anybody as of such, you know what I mean? Yes. And it showed. It showed today, man. Those girls locked in, bro. Two of them bigs. Chloe Kitts is out. She tore her knee. Watkins is dealing with some other issues. I think she might have tore her knee, but she had some issues going on.
50:27Geno Auriemma:So maybe she's back. But the guys that – Joyce Edwards did not play well. Watson, who was an All-American, she did not play well. Raven Johnson didn't play well. Tessa Johnson was really the only one that played well. McKeer, she shot the ball okay. Yeah. They didn't play well. And that had to do with UCLA and the defense that give them credit. yeah South Carolina didn't shoot the ball well but it went out there by themselves somebody forced them to miss those shots like you said they got behind early and it just grew
51:00Dawn Staley:hey Joe how tall was the 5 from UCLA how tall is she 6 '7
51:06Geno Auriemma:yeah that's the one we were talking about yeah I know I know I wasn't tripping yeah she a big girl she was a low Ocho I'm talking about they couldn't do nothing with her down there. And the thing is, remember, Joe, she had that bell. She was coughing on the sideline like she had an asthma attack or something. Yeah, early. They needed to carve into that lead while she was out. And when they couldn't gain any traction while she was out. Uh-uh. Yeah, because UCLA still built on the lead when she was sitting on the bench. Absolutely. Yeah, you're right. You're right. They didn't play well. They didn't, right.
51:37Geno Auriemma:Congratulations, Gamecocks. I was at their fourth or fifth straight title game. well yeah I think probably a force because they went back to back they won back to back they lost last year and they lost again this year but
51:53Geno Auriemma:ain't nothing you can do Joe the better team won yeah I ain't see this and then the girls dancing at the end I was like go ahead on Miss Benz yeah what y 'all doing I ain't see this though you know you ain't think it was gonna be like this what no I didn't think they lose by not by 28. Mm-mm. I thought the game would be much closer. Yes, I did. Now, don't get me wrong. I ain't seen a lot of UCLA play. I may have seen like a game or two, if that. But I've seen South Carolina play on numerous times. Right. And I just did not see that. After they beat Connecticut, I thought they was almost destined to win it.
52:32Geno Auriemma:Yeah. But I held... Clearly, I hadn't seen... Who beat UCLA? Was it Texas? Was Texas the team I think it was Texas. Yeah. I think they did. I think Texas don't know when they beat them. And they beat Texas in the tournament, didn't they? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. But congratulations to the Lady Bruins winning their first NCAA championship, finished of the season, 37-1. But they got some seniors on that class. I think – I'm trying to think. Raven Johnson is a senior. I think they bring a lot of these girls. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I think Latson, I think she comes back. She a senior?
53:20Geno Auriemma:You think she come back? I don't think she a senior. Is she a senior? Is that the one that transferred from Florida State? Yeah, I think she a senior. Okay. She a senior. I know Raven Johnson is a senior. Yeah. I think UCLA got a lot of seniors too. They do.
53:44Geno Auriemma:Yeah, I saw that. And she hugged the lady, the UCLA coach before the game. Who did? Don. Did she? Don Staley, yeah. Yeah. But, no, it's going to be a situation where, you know, Carolina will be back. Dawn Staley is a very good coach. And she got some good recruits coming in, too. Mm-hmm. Yep. I think she got that girl that won the dunk contest. Isn't the girl that won the dunk contest coming in at McDonald's All-American? I think so. Isn't she going to Carolina? I think so. I think so. But I know she got another girl coming who go to Sierra Canyon out there in L.A. I forgot her name, but she could play.
54:31Geno Auriemma:Yeah, that's where Juju went, Sierra Canyon. Yeah.
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57:26Thank you.
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