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24:33They got no coping skills. They're going to quit. They're going to quit. There you go. They're going to quit as soon as it gets tough. It's going to eat you up. It's going to eat you up quick. So I wish in a sense we can go back to maybe not how it was when we grew up, but just a little bit of structure, just a little bit of discipline because life ain't gonna be fair once you're out there on your own. It's hard to have discipline now. The kids will tear your ass up. Huh? The way these kids talk back, I mean, you might suck, you might, they call it kissing your teeth, you might suck. Yeah. You might roll your eyes or stomp off or something, but it wasn't nobody blatantly just talking back and cursing at the teacher.

25:07Like we see clips, students fighting teachers. That was... Hey. Well, I done seen... I couldn't be no teacher, man. I couldn't be no teacher. Hey, you see some of the clips? Joe, you see some of the clips, the way the students talk to the teachers? Yeah. They fire on them, they slap them. Yeah. Talk about B, you better get out my face. They be on they phone. Kid might come back and pop you. Hey, I ain't got time for that, man. Could you imagine raising your hand at a teacher back then? No, no. Boy, that teacher called home and told Barney or Mary. Hey, I ain't going home. I ain't going home. No.

25:46You called my grandma. Hold on, my grandma, hold on. My grandma made me, Joe. And I'm supposed to be at Miami Northwestern, you know, with Teddy Bridgewater and all the boys went. I'm in the inner city. My grandma say, baby, listen, once you hit ninth grade, you not going over there. I need to be able to keep an eye on you. She sent me over there to Miami B. Senior High. Why? Because she taught at the middle school, she taught at Nautilus Middle School. Oh yeah. Long behold, I was very smart of her, because my bad ass always skipping class. They took that phone, she able to get over there in 10 minutes to me.

26:17Yeah, she already knew you was a little dumb. Oh, hey, Joe, I was bad, Joe. I ain't gonna lie to you, Joe. I wasn't like in the street bad, I was bad in school bad. In school. Class clown, skipping class. Skipping, talking, excessive talking, yeah. And other people PE class. I'm not. Hey, you got both lunches. You on both lunches. Both lunches, Joe. Hey, I kept an effing conduct. I got A's and B's. I got a effing conduct. Hey, let me tell you how bad I was, Uncle Joe. You know, in high school with us, in order to be outside the class, while class was going on, you had to have a hall pass. You had to have a pass, yeah.

26:58And then I said, I had hall passes in my bag already signed based on what period it was. so if I got caught in the hall, I can show it. Man, I got suspended five days when they found out I had stolen passes and the teacher really didn't sign it. Oh, man. Hey, and your parents, they be pissed if you get suspended, boy, and you got to stay home for more than three days? Oh, yeah. Hey, you got to stay home three days. Hey, don't answer the dough for nobody. Right. Nobody. Nobody. I don't care who it is. Nobody should be coming here doing work hours. That's how O'Shea got up a couple of$100. I've been hearing my aunt, oh y 'all got suspended, huh?

27:37Okay, that gonna cost you. I tell Barney Porter you got suspended, it's gonna be hell it ain't rock full box 385. And what it gonna cost? Hey, hey guys, they get on the bus just like they going to school. Hey, get off the bus and go walk the streets until it's time to get back on the bus and come on. Cause boy, if I'd have told Barney Porter, they were suspended? Oh no. Been on like Donkey Kong, wasn't it, man. What? Man, that man ain't play that fool. Hey, he already told him, he said you ain't gotta go to school, but if you go to school, go to learn. Right. Simple as that. He said, hey, you could quit?

28:13He said you quit, you gotta work. Yeah. But if you go to school, don't be, hey, he did not believe, my grandmother same way, do not believe in wasting people's time. Them people go there, other people wanna learn. Just because you don't wanna learn, that don't mean you go there and interrupt somebody else learning. Right. Man, listen, I never understood how cats would come to school and act a fool knowing their parents didn't play that, bro. I'm like, man, I know your mama and daddy. Boy, they ain't playing none of that. I don't know why you're here acting a clown. Because I know my mom and my grandma weren't having it.

28:47Oh, no. Hey, Joe, you got beans? I got whoopings, Ocho. Well, you weren't that big then, huh? I wasn't. No, I'm saying when I was a young 'un. But I'm saying I wasn't no bad child. Now, you know, if I was in the house with you, you wouldn't even know I was in there. I'd be in there chilling in my room. I'd stay to myself, you know what I mean? But you know Joe quiet. Yeah, I ain't in class. Even if you were big though, Joe, you wouldn't bow up at you. Man, I was bigger than my grandma. I wouldn't bow up at her. Even if I was dead, I knew I was wrong. I knew if I wanted to break loose or do something, I knew my grandma couldn't handle me.

29:23Right, right, right. But come on, man. I had too much respect for my grandma to ever raise my hand, to ever raise my voice. There you go. Or at any adult, even them teachers at school. Yeah, yeah, that's me too. Man, come on, man. You got too much respect for your people, man. Your mom, grandma, your dad. You ain't, man, you ain't finna be acting on food like that. I know I wouldn't. You wouldn't, I mean, even people that weren't your family members. Like I said, it was a community back then. A village, huh? They would correct you if you doing something wrong. They would say, son, you supposed to be doing that?

29:56Right. Ain't you marrying Barney Grandboy? Yes, ma 'am. Do they know you? No, ma 'am. Okay. You want me to tell them? No, I sure don't. Please don't tell them. Hey, you talking about correct? They'd be hell to pay. Correct. Hey, Joe, back then, you get in trouble, depending on where you at, depending on if it's a family member or somebody that is close to your mama, your grandfather, or your pops, they can whoop you. Yeah, absolutely. Depending on what they saw you do. 1 ,000%, old Joe. Not only can they whip you, once they tell your parents, then you get another whooping when you get home. Man.

30:29Absolutely. 1 ,000%, Ocho. 1 ,000%. Hey, let me tell y 'all something. I could take a whooping from anybody in my family, bro. But my auntie, my aunt Sherry, she was a military lady. Yeah. When I tell y 'all, she got twins, Derrick and Debra. When I tell y 'all this lady didn't play, I'm talking about because she coming in there swinging that stinging cord. She ain't damn a belt. She coming in swinging that stinging cord, Ocho. Train track. I'm talking about if you in the way, your ass going to get hit. I'm like this in the corner. I'm like, damn. And you know, back then, they hit you with anything.

31:00They hit you pick up a shoe and throw it. That wooden spoon. So my head was a drum, the way they hit me in my head with that spoon. The first thing they get their hands on, Joe, grandma. Let me tell you, when you get in trouble, I'm just saying for me, I'm not sure how anybody else was raised. When I get in trouble, especially when they came to school, and I came home, the first thing she say is, lay right here on my lap. And it took forever me to get on that knee and lay on her lap. But she put me on one leg, right? And she take the other leg and wrap it around to where it's locked right behind the knee joint.

31:36So I can't move, huh? So it's like I'm stuck in a sense. Man, listen, man. I never forget that. I never forget them whoopings, boy. It's some whoopings that I've seen. I ain't necessarily had. But it's whoopings that I've seen that I'm still scarred to this day. I ain't lying to y 'all. Let me tell y 'all something. It was Christmas, around Christmas. My cousins and them, they pinching the bottom of the presents trying to see what they got. Yeah, my auntie them figured all that out. When I tell y 'all she came in and swinging that stichy cord, boy, I was in the corner. I'm like, I ain't touch nothing.

32:08I'm talking about. Hell yeah. Hey, them was some good days, man. Good days. But look, everybody that I knew in my family, that's how my uncles raised their kids. Yup. That's how my, because that's how they were raised. So I didn't know any different. I thought, hell, I just, everything that I saw, my uncle, they didn't play that. Especially Thurnell, because Thurnell was the oldest, rest his soul, he passed. And then my mom, they were close. Thurnell was born in 40, mama born in 43. So they were the oldest. Because back then, the oldest son, there was a great chance he wasn't going to finish school.

32:48He going to be working with the man in them fields. If they will put wood and they dip in tar, whatever the case may be, he's gonna be doing that. The oldest girl was gonna help the mom raise the kids. She's gonna learn how to cook, she's gonna learn how to clean, she's gonna learn how to wash clothes. Cause that was her job, her responsibility. Cause my grandma was going right back to the field to pick cotton. And as the other kids got older, guess where they are? In the fields with my grandma. They didn't play that. All that talking back, Boy, you couldn't, don't slam no dough, don't stomp your feet, don't suck your teeth, don't roll your eyes.

33:28Nothing. Boy, if Barney part, Lord, I wish my brother could tell y 'all the story. That man didn't play. Not with even his own kid, grown, grown, got kids. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, nobody disrespected that man. I'm talking about nobody. Go to Glenville, Georgia and ask anybody from the ages of 70 on back down. Say tell us about, you know anybody think about Barney Porter? Man, Mr. Barney didn't play. He sure didn't. He didn't play the drums. He damn sure he play with nobody kids. All that kids, that's why I get all that Kiki kid. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you on that. My uncles, my aunties, my grandma, Grump up, man, they ain't play them games, bro.

34:19No, and that's what I've been telling Ocho, I said, I didn't grow up like that. All that playing, cause they would say, stop all that playing before somebody get mad. Yeah. Cause when somebody get mad, I'm gonna get mad and I'm gonna tear both your asses up. Mm-hmm. Me and Spangler sit down. Hey, the funniest thing, I never forget Joe, Joe and Unc, man, as a little kid, you know, my grandma, she singing to the choir. So if she's singing in the choir, that means she all the way up there. I'm out there in the pews. So I know where she can't get to me right now. Man, I'm in there playing around, man, with my little brother in church.

34:58I'll never forget Mount Oliver Baptist Church in Overtown. And they singing. And me and him, we back there touching and playing around in church. And she stopped moving. Choir going back and forth, swaying. And she stopped swaying and just looked. Yeah.

35:19Turn into a ventriloquist. What? My grandma could talk without moving her lips, Ocho. Man. You had to be on the first or the second pew. Benches, pews, whatever you got. You had to be on the first one or the second one. You don't be a spank. You don't take your eyes. Yeah, yeah. My grandma in Deaconess corner. Yeah. Boy, my grandma, hey. I'm gonna play when you get home. I'm like, you cousin in the church! I ain't, I ain't, they ain't. I must've didn't hear that, cause boy, when we got home, Barney and Mary ain't play like that. And so I think, you know what, and I said, I was telling you guys the other day, I think that's a lot of all that playing that keep, cause he didn't do that, he didn't, hey, he wasn't about no cracking, no jokes.

36:09Mm-hmm. Man, we going fishing one day, we pull up there with my grandfather pumping gas, and the dude say, all right, Mr. Barney, don't catch them all. Oh, Lord, you think that man called that man? Oh, Lord, Ocho Joe. Hey. Hey. You know it's everybody said, hey, don't catch them all. Yeah, yeah. Man, my granddad put that truck in part and cussed that man, and called that man everything. He was insane. Mm. You know my grandfather had false teeth also. Oh. He had his teeth, he had his teeth on the dash. In that glass cup. No, they were in Kleenex. He had them in Kleenex. Oh, he had them in Kleenex.

36:51Yeah, he had them in Kleenex. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Mr. Barney, better catch your teeth before they run away. Oh, Lord, that's right. I said, why you? I think me and Spanky, I look at Spanky, Spanky, look at me, I said, why you keep playing with? he said, man, I done told you, I'm a grown ass man and I don't play like that. Stop playing with me before I hurt you. Yeah. He meant that. Yeah. Cause look here, my grandfather was, I think Uncle Willie was the young, was the baby. So Papa probably was like the knee baby. Yeah. That's some older brother and sister. My grandfather, excuse me, my grandfather had a thing.

37:42Don't thump a kid, he would always say, don't thump a kid on his head, you make him thick head. He won't learn. I ain't gonna make it, hey, you ain't gonna learn cause he got a problem, but he ain't gon' learn. But he'd always tell, he didn't play that. Don't thump the kid on the head. My grandfather, we on the front porch. me, Spanky, and his brother. I ain't gonna call his name. He thumped me. Ow! Stop, uncle. I said, I called his name. Papa was in the bed. He thumped me again. I said, ow! Stop thumping me. After a while, my grandfather slept naked. After a while, you could hear the change jiggling.

38:24He putting on them coveralls. I ain't never seen him wear anything but coveralls. The one with the strap, like Junior Sample's wearing on Eeyah, who had the full coveralls. I heard him putting them on. Came out there. He said, I been told you. I said, I told you don't thump these boys on the head. You make them thick-headed, they won't learn. He said, if you thump it one more time, I'ma blow your brains out. He got in his car and left. He never came back. I probably was about five, my grandfather, that was three years. When my grandfather died, he ain't going to church to look at him. He was at the church but he ain't even go in there.

39:09When I say Barney Porter ain't played as a kid, well most of the kids I mean ain't nobody left but the older kids, Thurnell gone BJ gone, Gladys passed Mary Nell passed and Thurman passed. So five of them gone. Ain't nobody left with Jane, Shurmardine, Mama, and James. He did not play. If he told you something, set your clock back. If you at church and he told you he gonna take your ass up when you got home, just know it. If you uptown and you acting a fool,

39:58I got a dude, a kid pushed me. Man, that joker pushed me? I pushed him so hard, man, skin all his knees up. The only difference was they always catch the guy that do something. Yeah. Man, the principal got me and whipped me. Oh, man. Guess what? I went right home. I was, hey, I was cool. I got about halfway home, I started crying. Heee.

40:28And I got off that bus. Heee. Boy, what's wrong with you? He had a deep, he had a deep boy. Boy, what's wrong with you? That boy pushed me down, I pushed him back, papa. And Mr. Sanchez on whipped me. We got in the car. Mm. We got in the car. Went right back up there. So you put your hands on this boy again.

40:56I ain't had no problems. When I say that man didn't play, nope. But that's the discipline. So I was used to like coach, grab your face, man. Son, do you hear me talking to you? Son, do you hear me talking to you? Oh, you know that, you hear me talking to you? Well, damn, I heard you from the sideline. Yeah, I hear you. But if that's what you grew up with, But I just like, man, I sure want to be a good enough player one day, a coach won't yell at me. I can say, nah, don't yell at me like that. Don't coach me like that. That's what I was thinking when I was a little kid. Cause boy, they yell at everybody.

41:36And you just had to take it. Yeah, that's how it was. Hey, Uncle Joe, y 'all ever saw a, matter of fact, chat too? Y 'all ever saw the documentary, Year of the Bull? No, I ain't seen it. You ever saw that? Man, I mean, if you ever get an opportunity, Joe, Joe, I don't give you be busy. Joe, if you ever get opportunity, watch the documentary chat. I'm not sure if y 'all seen it called the year of the bull. And it's a visual reference on how we are coached, regardless of what inner city school you go to, regardless of what Optimist Club you go to down here in Miami. Yeah. It's exactly like that.

42:10Yeah. It ain't pretty. And if you watch it in today's time, in today's era, you'd be like, anyone here, anybody can do that to my child or do it to my kid. but that's the way it was. People kill hell at you about their kid now. You do that to somebody's kid now? Boy, they kill hell at you. Man, what? If you see that uncle, you'd be like, oh, hell nah. But, hey, them coaches, and it obviously is about Miami Northwestern, you know, back in the day, the way they coached, slapping the kids, coaching the kids, fighting on the field, everything on camera. Oh, yeah. Damn. But you know, Coach Hall, who coached my brother, Coach Hall coached my mom.

42:51My mom graduated in 1960. I graduated in 86. Coach Hall coached my mom. My high school coach coached my mom in the city. He coached all my uncles. He taught driver's ed. But he was a, Coach Hall, his whole favorite word, sucker. He called somebody, he called you a sucker quick. But he had the right temperament to be a coach. and everybody knew it. He coached. Everybody that grew up, Coach Hall coached their mom, their dad, and went to school with their grandma and granddad. So they knew Coach Hall. And he from Savannah. Now, mind you, Savannah, Glenville is 65 miles from Savannah. For 50 years, he drove from Savannah to Glenville every day and drove back home.

43:43Sometimes he would drive to Glenville. We'd have a track meet in Savannah, take us to the track meet, drive us back to Glenville, drop everybody off. I was the last one he'd drop off. Drive back, get his car, and drive back to Savannah and be back to Glenville. Damn.

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48:45Because the peewee, the pop water coaches, in the gym, because I started to get good. I started to smell myself. Yeah, I already know it. I already know it. Hey. Hey. I quit. Or at least threatened to.

49:09North Carolina's search for the next head coach has landed in an unexpected place as the Tar Heels intend to hire longtime NBA coach Michael Malone as the school next head coach. Malone is an NBA champion. From his time with the Denver Nuggets, won 510 games in 12 seasons. Uh, he's one of the most respected tacticians in the NBA has spent the past 10 months as an ESPN analyst. Malone hasn't coached college since he was an assistant at Manhattan in 2001. He was also assistant at Providence, uh, from 95 to 98 and Oakland from 94 to 95. According to ESPN, Malone's reputation as a coach is high in NBA circles and having the respect of UNC legends, Michael Jordan and Roy Williams played a role in the hire.

49:54Joe, knowing how Carolina normally hires, they like to keep it in the family. If you think about it, they went from Coach Smith to Guthrie to Matt Doherty. I think they had Peterson, and then they got O 'Roy, and then they turned it over to Hubert Davis. I think that's the succession. Who came in after Matt Doherty? Before you go, Joe.

50:32Okay, so there was no, so it went for, Roy came after Matt Doherty and then it went Huber Davis. So you like this high, Joe? Hey, I love this high, Uncle Ocho. You know, Mike Malone is a proven winner. Obviously, we know he's won an NBA championship on the highest level. he's coached MVP, Nikola Jokic, you know, all-stars like Jamal Murray. And when y 'all look at it now, hey, we know college is a professional sport, bro. This ain't just regular college no more. So you want a coach who's well-respected, you know, who these recruits are going to idolize and look up to and want to, you know, come to North Carolina.

51:16North Carolina is a prestige school, man. So they trying to get back on the winning track. I thought this was a great hire. Hey, look, and another point is the portal opens tomorrow. Yep. The basketball portal opens tomorrow. So now you got a coach who's in the driver's seat, and now he can go out and get some players because y 'all know it's probably about 2 ,000 players in the portal right now. And the thing is, Joe, you got to have a coach on hand when the portal opens. You got to. You can't wait. You can't hire somebody on Wednesday. you can't hire somebody on Thursday. You've got to have somebody in place.

51:53When that portal opens and says, okay, we got our guy. Because you can't go to a kid and say, we're thinking about hiring X, Y, and Z. The kids want to know who they could potentially be playing for. Outside of the money, how much you got for your boy? Okay, now we talking. Outside of that, Ocho, that's the first thing. How much you got? How much and how many minutes? That's what I need to know. Yeah. Okay, go ahead, Ocho. Hey, Joe and Unc, that's the first thing I was going to say, right? Listen, I know Mike Malone, right? Very respected. We're respected in the circles when it comes to NBA. He's won a championship.

52:25He coached one of the greatest, if not one of the greatest big men of all time in the Koliokas, yes? Yes. That has no bearing and no weight. It's not going to pull any strings being the hiring head coach at North Carolina. You got the pay to play. You got the pay to win. You understand the landscape of college basketball right now and football in general. You know to get those players in there? you got to come with the bag. Hello. We respect what you've done in the NBA. We expect y 'all keeping it in the family when it comes to hiring coaches at North Carolina. But you have to understand, open up your checkbook if you want to get the players to come there.

53:01Just because you hired Mike Malone doesn't mean you're going to have success. Yeah. It doesn't mean that. Now, respecting what he's done in the NBA, I respect that. The players probably respect that as well. But how much are you paying me to come here even though it's a prestigious school? We know what you've done. We understand the players that's come there before, but times are different now. Yeah. You got to pay to win. And that's what it come down to. And some of these guys, Joe's like, hey, I'll make me about$4 or$5 million in case I don't make it to the NBA. I got a great head start on life.

53:32Because, you know, sometimes your parents be able to give you like, hey, my kids, they got a head start. They had no college debt and they had a car already taken care of. So they got a head start. Everybody got, you know, within a month or two, They had jobs already lined up, but they had no college debt, and they had a car. So guys are like, hold on. I ain't make the NBA. Now, I can go to the G League or I can go overseas, but if not, I can go ahead and start whatever I got my degree in or whatever the case may be. I got me a nice little nest egg. I got$500. I got a million dollars stashed away.

54:04I can get me a great start if I can just wait until the job that I really want come to fruition. This is how these guys think. You're business people now. Yeah. All that student-athlete, damn that. Yeah, you're right. Y 'all try to do, they talk about student-athletes. Y 'all didn't care about nobody getting no books until they started getting some money. And now y 'all try to put emphasis on student-athletes. Nah, which one of them got an academic scholarship? Walked on to the football team because they already had a degree, already had a college tuition paid for. Nah, the college tuition is paid for because of those academics, because of the football or that basketball or that baseball.

54:39So y 'all keep that student-athlete bull job. I'm an athlete that happens to have to be a student. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. And we know that even though the portal open tomorrow, we know teams are already been working. Oh, yeah, they've been talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They going to act like, you know, tomorrow the first day. But, hell, they've been recruiting since the tournament started. You hear me? Yeah. They don't slid them a little something, Ochoa. They don't slid them a little something. Yeah, y 'all already know what's going on. Yeah. They locked in. Because, look, think about it. We've never seen North Carolina, obviously, you know, they going to have a lottery pick.

55:11They're going to have a top four or five pick this year in Caleb Wilson. But for the most part, they always have great players at North Carolina. You know what I mean? North Carolina, Duke, those blue blood teams always keep great talent. So with Mike Malone at the helm, Uncle Ocho, I'm sure he's going to be looking forward to bringing in some great talent and putting, you know, Chapel Hill, North Carolina back on the map for sure. Yeah. You know, Joe, they're not getting the – Because of the one-and-done and the NIL, the talent is more spread out. You know, before, Joe, they only went to like a handful of schools.

55:46Yeah. North Carolina, Duke, Kansas got first pick. And then another five or ten guys kind of spread out all over the place. But Duke, Carolina, and Kansas, and Kentucky got picked. They got – it was like a summer. If you ain't have no money, you got to wait there if they ain't done scrapped over and people don't try to it show them. And now they're like, man, these shows don't feel like no 30s. They feel more like a 32, 34, because everybody done squeezed their ass in them. And your mommy had no money to put it on layaway, so you get what everybody done picked over. Go ahead, Ojo. Hey, Uncle Joe, just like you said, right?

56:21It's a business, right? And when it comes to business, right? When you got goddamn bees, what's the best way to attract bees? With the goddamn honey. Honey, yeah. So the college landscape is goddamn even now, with players going all over the place. So if you understanding that, now that you understand it's a goddamn business, hell, goddamn supply and demand. The more you open up your pocket, the more players you can get to come to your school. Now, thinking just because it's North Carolina, thinking just because we have the Jordan brand, thinking just because we hired Mike Malone, you know, who's well-respected in the circles in the NBA, that's not going to cut it.

56:57I mean, it ain't cut it for how many coaches they had before Huber Davis. Well, Roy, and that's why, you know, you see a lot of coaches talking about, you know, I want to spend more time with my family. But I guarantee you, if the NIL hadn't come into a place and you still had the upper hand. They'd be coaching. Yeah. They'd be coaching. Y 'all already know what's going on. Hey, but look, they going after these guys that's in the portal that has experience, who's been in college, who are juniors and seniors. You look at Michigan, people going to copy this, man. You know what I mean? You want guys who not scared, who understands what college basketball is like and going to come out and compete.

57:35So, hey, man, if you're a freshman, you got to be a five star and you got to be that boy. You hear me? Yes. You want to come in and play, boy, you go. You're going to be that boy. And the fact of the matter is, Joe, is that a guy that's in the portal, he's already been to college. He already knows he has study hall. He already knows he has to lift weights. He already knows he has to condition. he already knows he has to go to class so I don't have to have I don't have to like boy I sure hope he go to class I sure hope he go to study hall I sure hope he does conditioning that guy's already done that yeah if I'm paying look here if I'm paying you I ain't finna look here ain't no on the job training Ocho nah you come you gotta come ready experience hey when I got my job application experience required don't you bring your ass on here think somebody gonna teach you what to do and get a Hey, okay, I'll teach you what to do, but you're going to be on an hour salary.

58:29You damn sure not going to be salaried. Hey, look, the one thing y 'all know is, you know, it take a while, even the top freshmen, it take them a while to understand how to compete at the highest level, how to play defense, how to play the right way. Hey, bro, it ain't just about you. You know what I mean? Like, we got guys who've been in college three, four years already. You know what I mean? Yep. So it's a learning curve for a lot of these young cats. And, man, it's going to be fun to watch. I'm looking forward to see what Mike Malone, you know, pull out his hat as far as who he's going to get out this portal, what kind of guys he's going to bring in, what type of system he's going to run, and what it's going to be like.

59:09But if you look, what, Arizona coach and the Michigan coach and a lot of these coaches says, I'm not interested. Because, I mean, it used to be, if this job opened up 10, 15 years ago, every coach would have been interested in it. Yeah. Matter of fact. That ain't the case now. Nah. That ain't the case now. As a matter of fact, they probably would have kept it in the family too. Yes. I just think now, like I've said before, with it being a professional sport, you want a guy who's proven, who you know that these cats going to respect. And that's what it was about. Yeah. And you look at – because the coaches now, they're looking at, hold on.

59:52I can go build a program. with the portal, I can go build something like Signetti and become the second highest paid coach and make it almost 12, 13 million dollars a year. I don't have to go to one of these blue buds because you know what? Other schools pay money too now. And with the portal, and we got famous alumni, you got Mark Cuban who went to Indiana. Yeah. So you got these guys like, okay, hey, if you guys want to compete with the big dogs, this is what it's going to take. and everybody loves a winner. Nobody has a problem spending money as long as we're winning. When the winning stops, the funds dry up.

1:00:34Yeah, yeah, you're right. And it's been reported that, you know, his daughter played, Mike Malone's daughter played volleyball at North Carolina too. Yes, see? She on the volleyball team. It's a win-win for him. Yep. You know what I mean? So, man, this is— Now I got to take off scholarship. Your dad's a coach and he can pay for your way. So I get somebody else that's... Yeah, yeah. But that's normally what happens anyway. You know, you got a kid, your son or your daughter is a student out there. Your dad's a coach. Hey, he probably take it a little... I say that tongue-in-cheek. Let me stop. Because everybody goes, man, you hear what Shattersharp's saying?

1:01:17He said that North Carolina should revoke Mike Malone's daughter, and he should have to pay for it out of his pocket. I said that tongue-in-cheek.

1:01:32Again, the Michigan Wolverines take down the UConn Huskies, 69-63. Michigan wins the program's first national championship in 89 and becomes the first team to beat UConn in the Sweet 16 or later since 2009. Dusty May wins it all in only his second year as Michigan head coach. He's just the fifth head coach in NCAA history to become a champion within his first two seasons out of school. Joe, you picked Michigan. Last night you felt they were going to win this ball game. They put three guys in double figures. Neither team shot the ball well from the floor. Neither team shot the well from three. It was an outstanding defensive game.

1:02:13A lot of challenges, a lot of blocked shots, and some steals. How was Michigan able to overcome? Because we know UConn is proven, especially in moments like this. Man, Michigan is a great defensive team, Uncle Ocho. And they showed it tonight. Big Mara down there in the paint. He gave Reed problems tonight. Reed was averaging a double-double, like 20 and 11, something like that. It's just the length that he possessed. That's obviously his offensive paralysis that he has, and he's a great pick and roll. Michigan got a – they got good bigs. They got great bigs, and they got good point guard play tonight from Elliott, which I thought that's what got him over the hump.

1:02:56I thought Elliott being aggressive, getting in the paint, getting in the teeth of their defense, causing havoc, keeping guys in foul trouble, and throwing lobs to the big fellas. Look, neither team shot great tonight. It was an ugly game. I ain't going to lie. It was an ugly game. But the defense that Michigan played, man, they score easy buckets off of, you know, their defense thriving and getting out in transition, getting easy baskets. And they got guys who done been there. I think this is a great win for Michigan considering the fact that I think all these guys, all the starting five come out the transfer portal.

1:03:36Okay, Ojo. Yeah, these guys ain't been to Michigan. This was their first year. So kudos to their coach, man, for getting these guys together and playing championship basketball. It was fun to watch, but this was a defensive game tonight. Yeah, I think, Joe, I think – and I'm going to turn it over to you. I think we can both – I think everybody agreed that both of these teams play outstanding defense. They get up into you. They contest shots. Nothing is easy. You're going to get contested at the rim because if you think you're going to get layups, you got another thing coming. And I think that had a lot to do with the one – UConn shooting 31%.

1:04:09Yep. Michigan shooting 38 % from the floor. Michigan shooting 13 % from the three. UConn shooting 27 % from the three. And I think that has a lot to do because there were not a whole lot of open looks. And even layups were getting contested. I thought the refs did a great job of letting them play also, Ocho. Go ahead, Ocho. No, I'm going to say the refs did a great job of letting them play. Obviously, like Joe said, it was a very, very ugly game. Neither team shot the ball well. Neither team shot the ball well, Joe. but defensively. Defensively, UConn played defense well. Michigan played defense well.

1:04:43But when points needed to be had at the time they needed to be made, Michigan came on the winning end. Towards the end of the game, I thought UConn might get that UConn magic again and somehow come back and maybe make it a little bit closer, maybe have an opportunity to win. But Michigan held on towards the end. I mean, it was an enjoyable game for me. watching it, it was kind of ugly, but it was exciting. I guess if you're a basketball purist, especially a college basketball purist, this is a game that you could enjoy. Yeah, I'm going to be honest with y 'all. I never thought UConn was going to win the game.

1:05:21You know, from the second half, I just thought Michigan, the experience that they have, a lot of juniors and seniors. They had one freshman come off the bench, which was McKinney. But for the most part, man, they controlled the whole game. Also, they got what they wanted. if they wanted to get in the paint and make a play. They did that. They crashed the glass. I just thought collectively, you know, everybody stepped up. Their best player, Lindbergh, he didn't, you know, he didn't play great, but he played great enough for them to win. You know what I mean? He had 13. Huh? He had 13 points. Yeah, due to the injury that he's dealing with, the NCL, for him to come out and play, like, if this was regular season, he probably would have set out.

1:06:01Probably. You know, they showed a lot of toughness tonight, man. I mean, this was a great win for them. Shout out to Michigan. And shout out to Connecticut as well, man. I thought they came ready to play, but for the most part, Michigan just was too overwhelming for them. The thing that started to concern me, Ocho and Joe, is that UConn started crashing the glass in the second half. They started getting second-chance points. And I'm like, damn, Michigan, y 'all right there. You got three guys right there. And somehow the ball, UConn guy has the ball, and he lays it back in. So I started to get a little concerned about the second-chance points as UConn started to get those offensive rebounds.

1:06:35And again, they had this nine-point lead. The next thing you know, it's a four-point lead. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. And if you notice, Michigan had a guy deep. Guys like, I ain't throwing that ball. Damn, damn. Y 'all tie me up. Y 'all get a foul. But I am not throwing this ball. I learned my lesson last time. The last thing I want to do is to have that thing tilt. He had two guys back there. He did. I ain't throwing this ball. I am not. And the funny thing is, he had just missed two free throws. He did. Yeah, so for him not to throw it, I was like, wow, for him to hold that ball and get fouled again, I'm like, shh.

1:07:08I probably would have got up off that day. I just made two – if I just missed two free throws, there ain't a lot of cats who are going to want to go back to that line. Nah, nah, you're absolutely right about that. And then Bear heads up flat at the very end. He got the rebound at the end and threw it down and said, by the time y 'all hustle this down, the clock going to be over with. So don't even worry about it. Don't even waste your time trying to bring it back up. But this was – this is what we expected to see. I'm glad we saw this. I was like, man, please don't let us see what we saw yesterday in the women's game where we get a UCLA, South Carolina, we get a blowout.

1:07:40I said that's the last thing that we need to see. And so I was glad that we were able to see a very intense, very well played. The officials had no bearing on the ball game because you always worry about that. People having a, well, the official called this call and you see a foul here and everybody's slowing it down. I thought the game was officiated very well. I thought the game was officiated very well. I thought he let the kids determine the outcome of the ball game. And in a game of this magnitude, that's all you could ask for. Let the combatants on the field determine the outcome of the game.

1:08:10Now, I understand that sometimes there's going to be a foul. There's going to be things. And you got to call it. Because a lot of times, Ocho, you and I were on there when we had the Kansas City Eagles game. Yes, sir. And Bradford held him. Yeah. I'm like, Bradford is in the locker room telling y 'all. Yeah, I held him. I was hoping they wouldn't call it, though. No, no, he said it. The official, even the referee came out in the pool. He said, hey, the guy went in, and as Juju was trying to uncover back, he tugged his jersey, and the back judge saw it. He saw it. Yeah. Called it. So I like this.

1:08:44You know, sometimes calls have to be made in crucial junctures of the game. Yeah. And everybody's like, well, swallow your whistle, but you can't swallow it. It's too important. You can't. That was too obvious, too egregious of a play to swallow it. But in this game right here, I thought they let the kids play, and Michigan kids played a little bit better than UConn. I agree. I agree. I like that the officials let those guys play. It was a physical game. A lot of missed shots, which calls for a lot of, you know, bodies falling, hitting the ground. I'm glad the refs kept their composure, man. It really didn't dictate the game.

1:09:18I agree with you. It was a great game to watch, man. And if you think about it, guys, Michigan was extremely aggressive. They shot 28 free throw attempts. Yeah. And they cashed. They were 25 or 23. So prior to the guy missing two, Joe, they had only missed one free throw. Yeah. You see guys, five for five, two for two, eight or nine, four for four, four for four, two for four. So that's when the clock is stopped, I got to cash into these. Yeah. I got to get those points. Yeah. And Michigan did an unbelievable job. Congratulations to the Wolverines. Lundenberg said, hey, we think we're the best team.

1:10:01I think they got a case. They have a very compelling case to say they're the greatest Michigan team that came through the University of Michigan. I understand the first team won with Lloyd Vaught and Glenn Rice and Terry Mills, Sean Higgins, Ramil Robinson. But what this team was able to do, 37-3, and who they beat along the way, they beat number one Michigan. They beat number one Arizona. They beat UConn, who had won two of the three last national championships. They were just unbelievable throughout the tourney and a very hard-fought win that they earned, and they are your national championship.

1:10:39The University of Michigan reigns supreme of men's college basketball, 69-63 over the UConn Huskies. The Huskies was trying to do something that only Coach Wooden can say he's done. That's winning three championships in four years. Maybe Coach Rupp done it in the 40s, but no modern coach. When you look at Coach K, you look at Coach Smith and Roy Williams and Bobby Knight, and there have been some really, really good college coaches along the way. Billy Donovan, none of these guys could have said they won three championships in a four-year span. And Michigan took down a very heady team. They're led by a bunch of seniors.

1:11:20Coach Hurley does a great job of coaching these guys. They played. They're well-conditioned. They trap. They get up into people, but tonight belong to the Michigan Wolverines. Check this stat out, Joe. Michigan scored 61 of their 69 points either in the paint or from the free throw line. Hey, Joe, look at that Michigan team, right? With most of those players coming out the portal, coming from other schools. Who do you see that might any lottery picks in there? What would you think? That could make a difference at the next level? Yeah, they got, I don't know if they're going to be lottery picks, Ocho, but they got some first rounders in here.

1:12:00I think Lindenburg probably be a lot of late. Lindenburg, yeah. Mara at 7 '3", you can't teach height. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He going, yeah. Yeah, you can't teach height. He can help any team in the league. I mean, with that presence and he ain't really no big stiff on the block. He got a few moves. No, he can move. Yeah, but defensively, yeah, I've seen him. switching on the pick and roll, guarding guards, but defensively, he can help anybody, man. You're right, Ocho. They got some first-round picks. Yeah. If you think about it, Ocho, remember when they had Big Edie at Purdue, 7 '4". Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:12:37He's more agile than Edie. Joe, in the mock draft, they got Lindenburg going 13 to the Heat. They got Mara going 23rd to the Hawks. Oh, okay. All right, Mara. We might can do something with you down here in the ATL. What? And Johnson Jr. going 27th to the Celtics. Hey, look, this game, though, I ain't going to lie, it was an ugly game. Because for Michigan to shoot 13 % from the three and 38 % from the field, man, it's hard to win games like that. But when you sitting in that chair and you shot blocking, you defending, and you making the game ugly, and UConn shot 32 % and 28 % from three, Hey, this ball game could have went either way, but I feel like UConn, they never caught a rhythm.

1:13:26They never got their shooters. Their shooters never caught a rhythm. If y 'all really watch this game, you'll see how Michigan switched everything. Switched everything. I seen Mara out there guarding Mullins one time, way out there on the perimeter. As soon as they try to hit us with a slip, the guys already pointing, go. Don't even worry about it, go. Hey, that's why we watch film. We know everything they're going to do. They like to run these back picks, these slips. And we ain't giving these dudes nothing. We already know the game plan. We're going to be out there before you even get out there.

1:13:57So I thought it was a great game plan by Michigan, man. Them dudes came to play. They understood what was their state and Michigan national champs, bro. Yep. The Wolverines' 36-point paints were the most allowed by UConn all tournament long. Damn. That's a big team, man. You got 7 '3", Mar. You got Lindenburg. You got guys to age. I like Johnson, too. Johnson Jr.? Huh? I like Johnson, too. Johnson played great. Yeah, he did. Yeah. Yeah. They had a lot of guys step up and play big, score some big baskets, played great defense. I thought they were really in tune tonight. Yeah, I thought Marr early on, Joe, he was on the right block.

1:14:37He couldn't score. He was spinning towards the baseline, throwing it with the left. I said, if you want that shot, go to the other side and spin to the baseline and throw it with your right. Yeah, yeah. So that's the only thing I was like, bro, that's twice that you've had that shot point blank and you've missed it. Go to the other side and throw it with your dominant hand. Unless you Jokic, Jokic is really the only guy that can consistently throw that shot, that little soft baby hook. Because his touch is so phenomenal. He might have some of the best touches I've seen from a big man from about 10 foot and in.

1:15:10Throwing the ball with either. And it looks like, bro, you're just throwing that ish up there. But all I know is it goes in. Yeah, look, I thought Reed battled Mara early. He missed the first couple post-ups that he had Mara did. I thought Reed done a great job. But as the game kind of went on, you know, he started to get to his spots. He caught alive. He got some easy baskets. He was able to put his stamp on the game. So, man, hey, this was a fun game to watch, bro. It was a fun game to watch. Who was an outstanding player? Lindenburg? No, probably Elliott. damn who because if they go because I'm thinking they go by the entire tournament most outstanding player they going by the tournament if it's the tournament it's Lindenburg sometimes sometimes they don't do that though they go by straight the championship game you know what I mean I'm saying because if you look at if you look at Joe you look at Lauren Best yesterday she got it and and and Gabriella Hawkins way outplayed her yeah she went crazy Yeah, so you might be right.

1:16:15Who won it though, Uncle? Do y 'all know? Elliot Cadoe won it. Yeah. Well. This is unbelievable. What's his classification? Is he coming back? You know, he came from Carolina. He came from North Carolina last year. I know. Yeah, he came over here. You got a little cheese come out in the portal? Yeah, he jumped in that portal quick, didn't he, man? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, that little NIL done paid off, huh? Ain't a man. Literally and figurative because I won a national championship and I got a little cheese in my pocket. Right. That's the double.

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