In short
Heat practice altercation (Bam Adebayo vs. Tyler Herro), NBA contract/pay-cut debate after Victor Wembanyama declines a supermax, and Draymond Green’s beef/UDonis Haslem comments; plus broader discussion of Ja Morant’s “bad boy” image and the NBA’s second-apron CBA effects.
Guests/backgrounds
No specific guest names appear; the episode is hosted by “Unk” and “Ocho” (and “Joe” is referenced as a co-host/participant). They speak from personal pro-sports experience and discuss NBA/NFL contract history.
Key claims
- Bam allegedly punched Herro at practice in Las Vegas after Herro’s social-media comments about Bam’s $60M value.
- Jimmy Butler and Herro were reportedly unhappy after Bam’s max extension; Herro shared a shot graphic on Instagram.
- Wembanyama took a smaller max (about a $50M cut vs. supermax) to help the Spurs keep the roster together; players shouldn’t carry CBA burdens.
- Draymond says Haslem should keep the same energy about Bam punching Herro as Haslem did after Draymond punched Jordan Poole; Haslem replies that he’d “kick his ass” if someone disrespected Spoelstra.
Notable examples
Jordan Poole incident; UD/Heat “culture” comparisons; LeBron contract timing; NFL contract anecdotes; Ja Morant’s “new slate” after being traded to Portland.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBam Adebayo and Tyler Hero's Altercation
0:03 to 0:30
Explore the details surrounding the physical altercation between Bam Adebayo and Tyler Hero during practice.
“And most of the time, those items don't actually get recycled.”
Bam Adebayo and Tyler Hero's Altercation
0:44 to 2:48
Explore the details surrounding the physical altercation between Bam Adebayo and Tyler Hero during practice.
“Uh-oh, ooh, Joe, you're gonna like this.”
Analyzing the Dynamics of Their Relationship
2:48 to 8:04
Discussion on the emotional and professional implications of Bam and Tyler's altercation.
“hey, bro, you go to talking about guys, some of them dudes gonna make you eat them words you talking about.”
Bam's Status and Impact on Miami Heat
8:04 to 12:00
Insights into Bam Adebayo's role and status within the Miami Heat organization.
“To Miami, it's like UD is in Miami what Kobe is to the Lakers.”
The Evolution of NBA Salaries
12:00 to 14:00
A discussion on the increasing salaries in the NBA and their implications for players.
“Every decade player like, God Almighty, no look at the money they make it.”
Rookie Year Reflections
14:00 to 14:58
Listeners will hear personal stories about rookie contracts and motivations.
“My rookie year, Uncle Ocho, Paul Pierce, had just signed for like$96 million.”
Comparing Playing Styles
14:58 to 19:07
A discussion on the playing styles of top NBA players and their effectiveness.
“Joe, my rookie year, Joe, I made$63 ,000.”
Bam Adebayo and Tyler Herro Dynamics
19:07 to 21:22
Insights into the relationship and competitive dynamics between Adebayo and Herro.
“I took less money because I could have got more.”
Wemby Takes a Pay Cut
22:42 to 28:00
Discussion on Victor Wembanyama's decision to take a pay cut and its implications.
“Victor Whitman Yama, size of five-year, $252 million max rookie scale extension.”
NBA Salary Cap Dynamics
28:00 to 29:00
Discussion about the implications of salary caps and player contracts.
“Brunson at 28 comes up, he'll be eligible for a 400.”
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Super Max Contracts and Team Building Challenges
29:00 to 30:40
Exploration of challenges teams face in retaining players with max contracts.
“Well, it's going to be what you call them?”
Understanding Recent CBA Changes
30:40 to 32:30
Insight into the recent collective bargaining agreement and its effects.
“When I sat down with him, he said, sharing a lot of people in Hollywood.”
Contract Negotiations and Team Strategies
32:30 to 34:20
Analysis of contract negotiations and strategies teams might employ.
“Well, clearly they're going to opt out of it.”
Financial Responsibilities of Players
34:20 to 36:10
Discussion on players' financial responsibilities and contract implications.
“You looking at it like, if I get my max money, I don't care where I get it from.”
Owner and Fan Perspectives in NBA Economics
36:10 to 37:50
Exploration of owner and fan perspectives on NBA financial dynamics.
“Because, hey, I got the flaws, you know.”
Player Financial Realities and Market Dynamics
37:50 to 39:40
Insights into player earnings and the financial market of the NBA.
“They don't give these sponsors an advertiser discount because guess what the Super Bowl ad going to be this year?”
Future of International Teams in the NFL
39:40 to 42:00
Discussion on the potential for NFL expansion with international teams.
“She worked two, allegedly she's worth$2 billion.”
Ja Morant's Image and Future
42:00 to 45:32
Explore Ja Morant's reflections on his past controversies and his desire for a fresh start.
“Ja Morant spoke for the first time about the perceived bad boy image since being traded to Portland.”
The Impact of Change on Ja Morant
45:32 to 49:51
Discuss the potential positive impacts of a change of scenery for Ja Morant in his career.
“And it seems like he's lost his joy for the game, Uncle Ocho.”
Draymond Green vs. Udonis Haslem
50:04 to 56:00
Dive into the beef between Draymond Green and Udonis Haslem regarding player accountability and actions during games.
“Draymond Green wants to know if UD, Udonis Haslam, will keep the same energy for BAM punching Tyler Hero that he did when Draymond punched Jordan Poole.”
Exploring Locker Room Dynamics
56:00 to 1:04:51
Learn how disagreements and fights in sports locker rooms differ between football and basketball.
“Yeah, we're going to have disagreements.”
Understanding Team Conflict and Emotions
1:04:51 to 1:09:51
Discover the emotional triggers and complexities behind fights between teammates in professional sports.
“You know, I'm trying to keep peace with everybody, defense, offense.”
Transcript
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0:30Shannon Sharpe:Hey guys, it's your favorite Unk here. Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you don't miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button, right here. Come for the sports, stay for the story.
0:44Shannon Sharpe:Uh-oh, ooh, Joe, you're gonna like this. Borma Heat teammates Bam Adebayo, Tyler Hero, got into a physical altercation at practice court on Las Vegas Friday morning during the Bam allegedly punched Hero in the face. It started when Bam approached Hero about the comments he made on social media after his seven-year run as teammates in Miami ended with Hero being traded to Milwaukee. Here's what Tyler allegedly said about Bam. You should get paid$60 million to be a top-tier defender on some nights. I'm just wondering. I'm just saying, should an elite defender be making$60 million a year? Answer that.
1:21Shannon Sharpe:If I'm healthy, I'm the one who needs help. who did Cleveland prioritize taking away in the playoffs? When I'm healthy, I need help, not the other guy. Damn. Whoa. This doesn't look. Everybody have this nice persona. They see him. He got a nice lady out here in Asia. Great couple. Great couple. Bam. Don't seem to bother anybody. But you kind of knew this would be a problem. Every man has a breaking point, Ocho. I don't care what it is. Every person has a breaking point. What you try to do is not get there. Because here's the thing. I saw an interview that said if someone was to have your back, to ask Tyler Hero, he said, bam.
2:09Shannon Sharpe:Now, I don't know if they crossed paths, but they both went to Kentucky, if I'm not mistaken, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So now we're looking at a situation like you said, if anybody's going to have my back, it's going to be bam. and then you turn around and you say this about BAM. So BAM tried to figure out what's really going on. No, I don't like that answer. Bop! Absolutely. Yeah, ain't no talking. I ain't no they got into physical altercation. Yeah. From what I've heard, it happened at the basketball court at Resorts World. I guess Tyler was there with his AAU team. Does that sound about right, Joe?
2:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Hey, hey, hey. Listen, I like Tyler Hero. I like his swag. I like everything about him. But that's one thing. hey, bro, you go to talking about guys, some of them dudes gonna make you eat them words you talking about.
2:55Shannon Sharpe:And especially talking about his pockets,
2:56Chad Johnson:because you basically talking about like he don't need it. Yeah. So, hey, hey, hey, keep your mouth shut, keep my name out, Jamal. You know what I'm talking about? So, hey, Bam ain't playing that, man. Yeah. Why you think you got the name Bam? Yeah.
3:13Shannon Sharpe:What you think you got the name Bam for? Bam, man. Hey, hey, hey. But also. We got to have a conversation, though. We're talking about it now. I'm good now. I'm just saying. I know they had an altercation, but I'm just saying cool ahead. We're talking about it now. Maybe an apology from Hero saying, listen, I said some things I shouldn't have said. Listen, we're going to have to cross paths for a very long time. Everybody whip your ass every time I see you, too. Hey, hey, hey. They need to squash that, though. They need to squash that.
3:47Chad Johnson:But you got to take into consideration, Uncle Ocho, the man got traded. Emotions are high, so we know his logic going to be pretty low. He probably said some things that he probably shouldn't have said or probably wish he wouldn't have said. But, hell, once you put it out there, ain't no taking it back, bro.
4:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You got to stand on it. You got to be careful sending people stuff in the DM. Because guess what? When they get mad, what are they going to do? Screenshot it for the world to see. Yep. Oh, wait. Oh, he didn't type that publicly? was this public or was it in the DM
4:28oh
4:29Shannon Sharpe:why would he post
4:35Shannon Sharpe:so Tyler Hero posted what he said about BAM and not the guy that he posted not the guy that he was talking to in the DM
4:51Wow
4:52Chad Johnson:What what everybody got burner accounts now What's going on basically Basically I ain't got no I ain't got no burner Joe Everybody got Burner's account and you got a Finsta What's that fake Instagram Why would you need a fake Instagram The same reason you have a burner They got an image to uphold Like, I'm already known for being crazy and saying crazy stuff, so I don't need a fenced or a bird.
5:23Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what old dude was thinking. Who? I don't know why Tyler. Like I said, that's your former teammate, and I get it. You upset because, like Joe said, emotions are high. You're getting traded. You didn't want to leave Miami. I mean, to leave Miami with no state income tax and nice weather year-round, I'm going back to Milwaukee. Hey, yeah, I'm from Milwaukee. I ain't tried to live there. I mean, he's from Wisconsin. I'm not going to say Milwaukee. I guess he grew up about 35, 40 minutes away from Milwaukee.
5:54Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, he can keep his house in Miami and come visit in the summer months.
6:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he got a lady, he got kids. So, hey, you ain't going to chase nothing in Milwaukee. Ain't nothing popping.
6:10Chad Johnson:Nah.
6:11Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nothing popping.
6:12Chad Johnson:But I think he ain't jumped a broom yet. I thought he jumped a broom.
6:16Shannon Sharpe:I don't think they married. I don't think. Don't start me lying. But if I'm not mistaken, I think I saw they had a picture of him at the Summer League, and I think she was here with him. So I don't know, Joe. I don't know if they're married, but I'm just saying, you know, he has two kids.
6:42Shannon Sharpe:But damn, Bam was on some type of time.
6:45Chad Johnson:He probably felt it.
6:46Shannon Sharpe:I know somebody got it. Joe, somebody got it on screen. Somebody got it on camera. GMT will come out with it. GMT will pay somebody$30 ,000,$40 ,000 to get that. You think so? I got to talk to Ben. I got to talk to Ben. I don't know. I don't know, man. You got to simmer down. Ben, you can't be around here just swimming.
7:08Chad Johnson:And they probably just ran into each other, and he probably would just like, you know what I mean? What's that word? Boop, boop.
7:15Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe, it's also reported Jimmy Butler and Tyler Hero were both reportedly unhappy after Bam received a max extension. Jimmy has distanced himself from Bam while Hero talked behind his back and even shared a graphic taking shots at him on Instagram. Mark Stein reported this. Mark Stein says on the report that here's the Heat royalty, Mickey Arison, Nick Arison, Pat Riley. He is a modern-day Udonis Haslam. They consider him the absolute franchise pillar. I've always heard nothing but he's held in high regard by his teammates. He's untouchable. That part of for sure. He's an extension of Pat Riley's Spoles ownership.
7:58Shannon Sharpe:He is. And UD basically took, bam, under his wing. Once UD turned down that money to go to Dallas, UD was golden. UD took less money to stay in Miami. Yep. UD is... To Miami, it's like UD is in Miami what Kobe is to the Lakers.
8:19Chad Johnson:Yep.
8:20Shannon Sharpe:That's how they hold him in that... Yes, they hold him in that high regard.
8:23Chad Johnson:He is heat culture.
8:24Shannon Sharpe:And so, bam, just slid right in. No, I'm not saying, because y 'all know y 'all going to twist my words. I'm not saying UD is the equivalent player. I'm saying the way he's looked at, the way he's thought of. Yes, because you know y 'all, man, I got his mind. I'm talking about, see, he'll do anything to glaze for LeBron. Talking about UD and Kel Kobe, the same guys. They're thought of as what they are, not player-wise, the culture, what they symbolize, what we want you to be. You see how UD showed up every day, worked his ass off? Some days he played, UD might go three, four, five games, 10 games, not play.
9:09Shannon Sharpe:But when they called his name, he was ready to go play. Yes, sir, every time. Every time. Kobe, hey, you play for the Lakers. You put on that purple and gold, you represent Laker Nation. Yes. You play your ass off. Ain't no shortcuts around here. Bam is the exact same way, and I can see it. Yeah.
9:28Chad Johnson:I can see it. But Bam a great player, though, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we talk about timing and guys getting paid. I mean, this is the timing, bro. He's the best player on their team. Obviously, you know, Giannis joining, but he can do everything. He's 6 '9". He can guard. He can rebound. He can score. Yeah, LeMair just scored, what, 75? 83. 83, yeah. 83 damn, man, come on, man.
9:54Shannon Sharpe:But you know what it is, Joe? People got to understand. They paid him. They only pay you what you're worth. That's why I'm saying if they valued him as a max player, whether you believe that he's a max player, it doesn't matter. Yeah. What somebody's willing to pay determines the value of said objects that they're paying for. And I hate to put it that way. I'm just saying. His contract, the Heat valued him as a max player.
10:23Chad Johnson:Yeah.
10:24Shannon Sharpe:They gave him max money. I don't really know what's complicated about that. I don't.
10:30Chad Johnson:Me neither.
10:32Shannon Sharpe:hey and also timing on timing is everything well the thing is Ocho think about it when LeBron LeBron went back to if I think if I'm not mistaken I think LeBron went back to Cleveland LeBron signed a four-year 80 million dollar deal yeah that was in 2012 here we are 14 years later guys are signing extensions for$70 million. It is what it is. You can't get mad at your time you were a high-paid player. I think the thing is, people look at it like, well, if you're not a Michael Jordan or a Kobe or a Shaq or Magic, how you getting that kind of money? It's just a sign of the times. It is what it is.
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11:23Chad Johnson:And the game is growing internationally in a rapid pace, man. So it's going to continue. Hell, it's going to continue to be up there, man. The money these dudes are going to be making, man, by the time a lot of them done, Uncle Ocho, they're going to be over half a billy.
11:41Shannon Sharpe:Oh, no, no, no, no. If Jokic signs this contract next year, five years, 355, his career earnings will be 724. Joe, within 10 years, somebody's going to sign a five-year contract for half a bill. Somebody's going to be making$100 million a year within 10 years.
12:02Chad Johnson:I can see that. I can see that. I can see that. I can see it, man. I'm telling you. That's crazy. Hey, hey, hey.
12:12Shannon Sharpe:It is what it is, and I get it. Every decade player like, God Almighty, no look at the money they make it. I remember when Magic Johnson signed a lifetime contract, a million dollars a year. And that was a lot of money. Yeah! Yeah. A million. Them dudes scratching their butt with that now. Man, guys making a million dollars a game, damn near. For real, though. Yeah. Guys making$750 a game. Yeah. Guys making$750 ,000 every damn game. Game came a long way, Uncle Ochoa. That's just the same thing with football. I remember guys used to get a million-dollar signing bonus and they thought they hit the lottery.
13:02Shannon Sharpe:Why are you offering somebody a million-dollar signing bonus? He better be an undrafted free agent. I mean, think about the first round of what they're getting. The first round of getting their contract fully guaranteed. Yes. So the$60 million fully guaranteed, they cut you a check, 40 million off the rip. Yeesh. It is what it is. I can't get mad at a player. I don't get mad at anybody. I was like, well, hey, well, maybe if I go out here and do my job a little better, they'll pay me too. Yeah. That's the way I look at it. I can't get mad. How do I get mad at the player?
13:40Chad Johnson:It should inspire you.
13:41Shannon Sharpe:He ain't pay his damn self. Now, if he'd have paid his damn self, I'd be like, now, you know you're wrong for that. Yeah. But he didn't. They gave him that money. Yeah. But all I needed to do was see some of the guys that they were playing, that they were paying. That's all I need to see, Ocho. I'm better than you. Motivation. Come up. You make$250? Oh, I can't wait to my contract up. Yeah, motivation. I can't wait to my contract up, Joe. Hey. That's the only way to look at it. How much you got?
14:09Chad Johnson:Oh, okay. Motivation. Hey, facts. Hey, hey, hey, hey. My rookie year, Uncle Ocho, Paul Pierce, had just signed for like$96 million. Woo! It was like his fifth. I think it was more like probably about 6 or 7 years but it was like for 96 million and I was a rookie and boy listen I'm like damn Paul got 96 million damn he out here with this little weak ass jab step you mean tell me he killing people with this little jab step and he I'm talking about he top 3 in the NBA in scoring I'm like shh Boy, I got to steal a little game from him, add to my game, because, hey, when it's my time, I'm coming through, baby.
14:58Shannon Sharpe:Joe, my rookie year, Joe, I made$63 ,000. I made$63 ,000, got$22 ,000 to sign. You was balling. I told Mr. Bowler one time, the owner, he passed away, rest your soul, Mr. B. I said, Mr. B, you paid me. You gave my sign of bonus out your back pocket, didn't you? He ain't talking about Sharpie. I said, you did. I said, but that's okay. He said, I think you made up for it over the years. I said, I did. You were right with me. I said, well, I think you got a pretty good player, too, right? 53 ,000, Ocho. Damn. Hey, Uncle Joe. What's up? You know what I'm thinking about, too? You know how when you watch Russell Westbrook dribble or you watch like a Derrick Rowe dribble and be explosive?
15:47Tell me if I'm tripping on the comparison. I'm not saying they're the same player. I'm saying their mannerisms and the way they play, it looks slow and lethargic. The way Luka plays and Paul Pierce. It look like they're moving in slow motion or am I tripping? You know what I'm trying to say?
16:05Chad Johnson:Nah, you're right. You're right. You're right. They got two. The moves always work. In the moves, they always work. Because it's about, it's not about being faster or quicker than you, Ocho. It's being deceptive and having a quick first step. You know, if you got a quick first step in basketball, bro, you can control the game, meaning you can always get by your defender. You know what I mean? And you can always keep the defense in a huckleball. And you can shoot. See, both of them can shoot. That's what make them dangerous. You know what I mean? Man, I used to watch, hey, my rookie year, bro, I watched Paul Pierce score the easiest, probably 46 points in his life, just off a catch, jab, jump shot.
16:48Chad Johnson:I'm like, damn, man, how they keep falling for this? But you know what I mean? It's like the little simple moves, but you have to perfect them. And, man, when I tell you how he had it down to a science, oh, my God.
17:06Shannon Sharpe:Man. Yeah, but that little bit of money, hey, and you think about it,$53 ,000, I mean$63 ,000 a year, by the time Uncle Sam takes his taxes, I ain't going to bring home about, you know, mid-40s.
17:18Chad Johnson:Damn, you still balling the wing, tell the truth.
17:21Shannon Sharpe:Look here, I was first team all pro, started the Pro Bowl, I went to three pro, oh, Joe, went to one, two, 92, 93, first team all pro, I led the team in receiving two straight years, 92-93, led all tight ends in catches, yards, and touchdowns in 93, made 325. Was a first-team All-Pro and started the Pro Bowl for 325. Damn, that was with incentives and all that? Man, look here. I had incentives from the previous contract, but I started taking incentives out when they didn't let me get that$100 ,000 because I made 325. So check this out. Last game of the season, I think I need like 121 yards. I get six for 116 in the first half.
18:12Shannon Sharpe:So I got 995 and two touchdowns. I don't catch another pass. Why are you telling John? Ocho, Joe, I go back out there the next week, I catch 13 for a buck 53 and a touchdown in a playoff game. I told you, I didn't know it at the time, Ocho. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I wasn't one of them guys. There are a lot of guys probably at half go look at their stats like, oh, man, I got this. Had I known, I probably would have. I'd never done that before, but I probably would have. Because to get a thousand, because receive tight ends didn't get a thousand yards back then. It's still a gold standard for a tight end to get a thousand yards.
18:52Shannon Sharpe:Especially we ran the ball. He was running the ball. That's why so few tight ends had a thousand yards because everybody ran the ball. Man. So I took it out. And then they was like, you know, we want to do a contract extension. Man, I'm so happy. I took less money because I could have got more. But at that time, Joe, I had three kids. I had to be aged.
19:17Chad Johnson:You had to get out of your head.
19:19Shannon Sharpe:I said, what y 'all offering? Because I could have been, I could have, if I had just waited, and my agent was like, you should wait. I said, I can't wait. I said, man, I got three kids. I already know. I said I would love to wait. And I know they wasn't trying to hear that. It's like, look, I might need y 'all to hold. Like, shh, man, please. Yeah. Hey. So I was like, hey. But that's all right. I said, that's all right. I get it. I get back to the table. Oh, yeah. I get back to the table.
19:45Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey. It probably kept you working hard, too. Oh, man. Yeah. Did it? Oh, yeah.
19:51Shannon Sharpe:Joe, I was spending money like I was making a million dollars a year.
19:57Shannon Sharpe:Between the kids' private school. Yeah. Yeah. between kids, private school, Ferrari, big men, sister, hey, buy my sister stuff, you know, hey, because when I first got to Denver, Ocho, the joke, my girlfriend was in school, I was paying for her, you know, I was sending her money so she could pay for, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:16Chad Johnson:Yeah, I was that type of, that's me, Joe. Yeah, yeah, I can see that, man. I know you, I know you a good dude, you know what I mean? Yeah. I can see you, I can see you doing, ain't no wrong with that, man.
20:26Shannon Sharpe:My mom, you know, my mom, my mom, like, hey, baby, you know your mom, Your mom like, I'm like, Mom, look, I don't know what you think. I said, but I ain't making spanky type money. But, hey.
20:36Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, you running through that check you got in a man.
20:39Shannon Sharpe:What? Man, please. Hey. Yo, I had to have a card signing. Man, I think I signed. What's the card? I think, Ocho, my rookie year, back then they used to send the cards to you, Joe. Yeah. But you know how people are, Joe. they let somebody else sign the cards for them and ruin it for everybody. I ain't going to lie, I did that one time, boy.
21:02Chad Johnson:I was a rookie at Arcan Ocho. Boy, they had to send me so many cards, but they had to pay me a nice chunk of change. I'm like, man, I ain't nowhere in hell I'm going to finish all these cards. I had my cousin sign them cards. They sent them cards back so quick. Man, what is this? Yeah.
21:20Shannon Sharpe:But no, man, hey, Bam, hey, I don't condone violence, But I just think the thing is, Tyler, you felt that type of way. I don't know why. You got paid. They were upset at you because every time they turned around, you were hurt, Tyler. And Bam never said a word. Bam never said, well, damn, man, bro. Sure wish you was out here, X, Y, and Z. And that's one of the reasons, and I get it, because your name always came up. They had made it abundantly clear. Really, the only person that was untouchable was Bam. Yep. The only person that's been untouchable for the heat is Bam.
21:56Chad Johnson:yeah right right rightfully so though there's a reason why because he's so dynamic and so versatile uncle ocho you know you put him with the right squad like they put this great team in miami that they got going now and they add a couple more pieces hey man you got a championship caliber team and he'll be he'll be the centerpiece of that with the american express platinum card i can unlock experiences like no other since i'm always booking my next trip i love that i can earn points on travel. Plus, I get a resi benefit, so you know I'm hitting the restaurants everyone's talking about. And you can find out your welcome offer after you apply, which could be as high as 175 ,000 points.
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22:50Shannon Sharpe:Victor Whitman Yama, size of five-year, $252 million max rookie scale extension. Wembley decided to take the 25 % max instead of the 30 % super max. That would have, with escalators, would have been$303 million. So are they going to see that on the screen, Ash? So his salary is$27 ,000, is$43 ,310 ,000. It could have been a tick below$52 million. And then he goes to 46 ,770, and it could have been 56 ,130 ,000. And then he goes to 50 ,240 ,000, and it's a tick under 60.3 million. And 30, 31, it goes 53.7 to 64.45. So basically he took a$51 million,$50,$51 million cut to stake. Woo! Spurs chairman Peter J.
23:45Shannon Sharpe:Holtz, CEO R.C. Buford and Brian Wright, and coach Mitch Johnson travel to Paris to meet him and spend time with Victor and his family and his reps Friday. Wimby Yama essentially locked to earn a 300 Supermax if he plays 65 games next year, but opted to take significant less sacrifice at a flashpoint for the Spurs to rise. NBA PPA is preparing to fight back hard against the second apron, especially now that the news of Wimby passing up the Supermax to help the Spurs try to keep the roster together long term. The CBA should not be put on the player in position where he has to carry the burden in order to keep a team together.
24:23Shannon Sharpe:A system does that. We have a problem. I agree. Don't put that on us. Don't put that on us on the players. They always do that. And I knew this was going to come because we talked about it with Jalen Brunson. Yeah. We're talking, this is what teams are going to expect from their players. Nah, bro.
24:46Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. Everybody's not going to do that, though, especially teams that are not in a position like the Spurs are. The Spurs are in a perfect position where if you do take a discount, there's a good chance that we can get the finals. But you know how teams, players come up, you know, and they are eligible for Supermax, they ain't taking no discount. Because, hey, we very far. You know how they're going to paint the picture, Ocho. You selfish? Yep. You know how they're going to paint the picture. They're going to paint the picture just like that. But I think in Wimby's case, he's going to make so much money off the court.
25:20Chad Johnson:He's going to make up all that.
25:23Shannon Sharpe:Because guess what? I can still get this max contract and still get my money. Because guess what? I guarantee you, them tickets ain't going to get no cheaper. I know. Even though Wimby took a$50 million hit, you think they're going to lower or raise the ticket prices every single year moving forward, Ocho? Are they going up? Concession. Do you think they're going to raise or lower the concession every single year? Moving forward, Joe. Let me ask you a question. NBC, Amazon Prime, ESPN. Tell me which one they gave a discount because these players are taking a discount. Right. You're right. We're going to talk about this in a second, Joe, before you go.
25:59Shannon Sharpe:You see what the Seattle Seahawks just went for, Joe? Ocho? What did they went for? 9.6. He bought the team in 1997 for$194 million. Damn. Man, that's crazy. Now, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was 2023. Washington sold for$6 billion. Three years later, an extra$3.6 billion.
26:29Shannon Sharpe:Now, I want to know. Did they say, you know what? I'm going to give you a discount on this. I know we worth about 9.6, but I'm going to let you have it for 9. Shh. You see how they do? And fans going to eat it up. Fans don't know. Even if the team sacrifices money, you still going to pay full price. Your PSLs ain't going to go down. Your playoff tickets ain't going to go down.
27:06Chad Johnson:You're right. But, hey, I'm not going to tell a player what he should or shouldn't do.
27:13Shannon Sharpe:That's your money. You want to give the team a discount? Give your team a discount.
27:18Chad Johnson:Hey, listen, you got Cat about to get ready to come up. What Cat going to do? Cat said he'd be willing to do it.
27:29Shannon Sharpe:That's what he said. but I'm looking I already got me a ring I would just get rid of
27:36Chad Johnson:but you did in New York you beloved like you I'm gonna be beloved
27:40Shannon Sharpe:in New York too they're gonna pay me all my money
27:49Chad Johnson:hey but what about the squad though if we pay you all that money we're gonna get rid of two guys we might have to let Bridges or OG or Heart or somebody go we want to keep the band together don't
28:00Shannon Sharpe:They just gave OG five years for 206.
28:06Shannon Sharpe:Brunson at 28 comes up, he'll be eligible for a 400.
28:15Shannon Sharpe:I don't tell anybody how to live their life. If that's what you want to do, Cat, if that's what you want to do to keep this thing together, keep it together. But all I'm saying is the owner said he's not going into the second apron. So he ain't willing to sacrifice nothing. but he want the player to sacrifice.
28:30Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see? Hey, y 'all can hear me? People knocking on my door. They saying you too loud? Yeah, probably. Hey, but you got to be able to you got to be able to some way, somehow help teams that do draft pretty well, Ocho. You know what I mean? Like, it's got to be something that can help them because how do I get punished for drafting well and obviously I got to pay all these guys, but damn, it's got to be some type of stipulations to where it's got to be something in our favor.
29:05Shannon Sharpe:Well, it's going to be what you call them? OKC going to be faced with this. Oh, yeah. You think they're going to give them guys a third contract, Joe? Give who a third contract? OKC with Shea and Chad and J-Dub. So you mean to tell me I'm going to have three guys making$300 million? Right. I got three guys there. I'm never going to beat you. So out of them three, one of them got to go. Absolutely. And before you know it, they're going to whittle them down and both of them have to go. I believe Shea is still the only untouchable. Because think about it. Boston only had two guys making that super match money, and they say one of them had to go.
29:48Chad Johnson:Damn. So they're going to mess around and get J-Dub up.
29:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But here's the PA.
30:01Shannon Sharpe:This is what upsets me about player association, don't you? Y 'all agreed to this. You just did this deal. You agreed to it. You got seller's remorse now. You signed up on this because you were so hell bent on making sure teams don't become super teams that you gave this. And you knew the owners, like, I ain't nowhere in hell. I'm paying for all this. But what it does, it punishes players that are in line to get super max contracts. Now teams get up off them. Yeah, that's basically what is happening. You signed this deal. Terry Crews, T. Crews, I've been knowing T. Crews. He played with my brother.
30:48Shannon Sharpe:So I've been knowing T. Crews 30 years. When I sat down with him, he said, sharing a lot of people in Hollywood. He said they nod yes, but they mean no.
31:01Yes, no.
31:03Shannon Sharpe:Joe, they just signed this deal, Joe. Yeah. So unless the owners went back and put these stipulations in there after the fact, what are we complaining about, Ocho? What are we complaining about, Joe? Joe, this is your field. Tell me what we're complaining about. because you got these$1 ,000,$1 ,500,$2 ,000 lawyers that can read better and can comprehend better than what you can. Tell me what was added. So with this second apron, did this just come in this year or was it in the CBA that you negotiated?
31:39Chad Johnson:I'm going to be honest with you, Uncle Ocho. I have no damn idea. I don't. But this second apron, I know it just started. You know what I mean? because now you're having to break these teams up. But I don't know, you know, when it came into a play, whether it's been two or three years. But I'm just seeing the effects of it. Hold on.
32:01Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to tell you when it started.
32:21Shannon Sharpe:However, let's see. Say NBA collective bargain agreement is set to expire at the end of 2930 season. However, the league and the NBA Players Association have an option to opt out of the agreement one year early by declaring their intention to do so by 2028. Well, clearly they're going to opt out of it. Yeah. Clearly they're about to opt out of it.
32:47Chad Johnson:Yeah, but it was put in place to stop them damn super teams.
32:51Shannon Sharpe:Yes.
32:52Chad Johnson:Yeah, so.
32:53Shannon Sharpe:Well, I think the thing is, Joe, and I get it, I get it. But the problem that you run into is that when I draft well and my players perform well, you also prevent me from being able to keep them.
33:05Chad Johnson:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think a team should be penalized for that. If you draft well and your teams do well or your players over-exceed expectations, man, you shouldn't be punished because you can't pay all of them. You know what I mean? There has to be some type of stipulations in there to where, hell, if I draft you, you know, we should be able to some way, somehow keep you and it don't really kill our salary cap like that.
33:32Shannon Sharpe:The current agreement was ratified by the NBAPA membership in April of 2023. It took FEC July 1, 2023. so joe oh joe they signed off on this yeah they signed off on this and what this this uh bargain agreement what 10 years right uh no basically it's from 23 july of 23 it was uh a ratified it was certified ratified in july of 2023 so and it goes until 2030, but you can opt out. If you can opt, you can say, okay, I want to opt out. And so you opt out a year before it ends. And so in 28, it could be the final year of it. So in other words, everything that's in this contract, Joe, was in there in 23 when they signed it.
34:22Chad Johnson:Yeah.
34:23Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But you see what happens, Joe? You looking at it like, if I get my max money, I don't care where I get it from. As long as I get my max money, whether I get it from OKC, whether I get it from Golden State, whether I get it from the Knicks. As long as I get 250, as long as I get 350, I don't care who give it to me until you get on a team that have success. You're like, hold on, wait a minute. We're not going to be able to stay together.
34:49Chad Johnson:Because there's no middle ground. There's no in between. It's either you're getting the max contract or, hell, you almost getting peanuts. You feel me? And that's kind of how it is. So, hey, man, they put them fingers in front of them boys. Ain't no telling, man. I don't know.
35:07Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, we know firsthand. Because guys like everybody, it's the players, Joe. Because you know there's only a certain amount of people that's going to make the Supermax. Just like Ocho and I know there's only a certain amount of people that's going to get the$100 million to$200 million contracts in the NFL. It's those guys that there are more guys that's not going to make that than the guys that are. And those guys that are not, those are the ones that they're like, man, hey, bro, you already got$200 million in the bank. I'm year to year bro I'm signing I'm playing
35:39Chad Johnson:that's how it works and that's how it's been bro
35:43Shannon Sharpe:so you gotta basically say look here Ocho I understand bro but I don't need to tell the wife no expensive gifts don't get no second home don't do X Y Z hey I don't really try to tell y 'all how to do it but you can't have no baby mama cause we about to have to shut this thing down for a year or two that's the last thing you want In order to get what we want. It's hard to get everybody on that same page. It absolutely is. Especially with NFL players. Because, hey, I got the flaws, you know. I got me about four, five. I got me a G-Wagon. I got me a Cullinan. I got me two plowsets. I got my mom 15 ,000, 20 ,000 square feet.
36:30Shannon Sharpe:No, get mom something that she can clean herself. Yeah. Give mom 3 ,000 square feet. You're good. 20 ,000? Woo! 3 ,000. How you gonna get a mom house bigger than yours? Because you gotta realize, Ocho, a lot of times you get mom these big houses, you got to pay to keep it up. Hello. You gotta pay somebody to cut the grass. You gotta pay somebody to come in there and clean. Get mom something they can clean. Hey, my sister can clean this right here. Pick up after yourself. It ain't nobody but two of y 'all, you and Granny.
37:09Chad Johnson:Thanks. Thanks. I'm with you on that one.
37:16Shannon Sharpe:But hopefully, like, they come to some type of resolution, guys, where they can figure this thing out. And because I agree, Joe, this burden should not be placed on the players. The players should not have to have the financial responsibility to say we want to keep a team together. So what does the team do? Just sit back?
37:34Chad Johnson:I think the teams, I think they kind of knew all along this was going to happen. Of course. Yeah, you was going to run into this problem. Look, they want all this money up front. They want these max dollars. But, hell, at some point, some of these max players are going to have to start taking haircuts if they want to continue to play on great teams. These owners knew that. Okay, Ocho. Mm-hmm.
37:55Shannon Sharpe:But guess what? But guess what the owners never do? But they never give these TVs. They never give these partners. They don't give them a discount. They don't give these sponsors an advertiser discount because guess what the Super Bowl ad going to be this year? $8 million. 30 second spot, Joe. And they got 240 of them. Damn.
38:20Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. But they billionaires, huh? They ain't giving no damn. They ain't cutting that. That's my point.
38:27Shannon Sharpe:That's what Ocho and I, we were talking about it from the very beginning. How have billionaires convinced normal fans to turn on the millionaires, which are the players, and side with them? They sharks, man. They smart because they put it out there. You don't care about winning. You selfish. And then you take some of your best players. Because first of all, once Tom Brady did it and they won, the expectation is you see what Tom did. and fans start to believe, well, if you were like Tom Brady, Tom Brady was making more off the field than he was on the field. Tom Brady's wife at the time was doing$30 million a year.
39:09Shannon Sharpe:Hell, if my wife did$30 million a year and I'm doing$15,$20 a year, damn right I give you a$5 million haircut. But my wife ain't making that. As a matter of fact, she costing me money.
39:23Shannon Sharpe:You know your wife making money. if you marry somebody and they make you sign a prenup.
39:28Chad Johnson:Oh, man. Oh, yeah. That mean you probably married into something.
39:38Shannon Sharpe:It's reported that Travis signed a prenup with Taylor. She worked two, allegedly she's worth$2 billion. When you making millions, you make$20 million a year, plus off the field probably another$5,$10, so you make$30 million a year. and your wife's hair slides you this piece of paper and you have your lawyer read it over what's that telling you? There ain't very many situations like that.
40:08Chad Johnson:There ain't very many situations like that. Hey, you gonna feel the way though?
40:13Shannon Sharpe:Hell no. I ain't feeling no way. Because I tell my homeboys all the time they tell my shop I ain't got no money like you man I ain't got nothing. I say good that way you leave with your nothing. all of your nothing. I don't want you to leave with 50 % of your nothing. Hey, the funny thing about it I don't know the percentage I don't know the stat, Chad. You guys can probably find it faster than I can. Think about the wealthiest women in the world, right? Wealthiest women in the world and what percentage of that wealth come from divorce? A large chunk. Or inherited. Yeah, I'm saying outside of inheritance.
40:52Yeah, for sure. Most of it has come from divorce.
41:01Shannon Sharpe:So hopefully they can figure this thing out, players. Figure it out. It's a lot of money to be made now. Because if somebody paid you$300 million, how much are you actually making them? Because they ain't turning a loss now. They never turn a loss. So if they willing to pay you$300 million, Joe, you bringing them half a bill. They don't even know it Especially if you got one of these guys from Overseas you got a Wimby Or you got a Luka Why you think they're trying to get NFL teams over there Ocho They're trying to get two teams over there Because you just saw what they went for right So now a new team coming into the NFL You can't come in less than 10 bill Hold on they're trying to get it over where huh Overseas they're trying to get two NFL teams overseas man that's a long flight obviously they got two teams over team you go over there and you stay you play both teams you stay for two weeks
42:05Shannon Sharpe:but at some point them teams had to come here for sure and then they'll stay two weeks three weeks and then they'll go back over there and stay two three weeks I like that idea that ain't bad but for 20 billion what you think the owner's thinking and they chop that up 30 ways you said how many billions 10 billion you ain't because you're not going to be able to get one for less than 10
42:31Chad Johnson:yeah
42:34Shannon Sharpe:oh yeah the Cincinnati Bengals value just increased I think the Cincinnati I think y 'all and I ain't taking no shot at you I think you guys are the least valuable team but least valuable least valuable now is 5 billion Okay, okay, we rich. Yeah. Five billion.
43:01Shannon Sharpe:Ja Morant spoke for the first time about the perceived bad boy image since being traded to Portland. Let's take a listen to what Ja had to say. I mean, obviously I've done, you know, what I've done in the past, but it's been addressed and handled already. So I don't see why, you know, years later that's still the topic when nothing happened since, you know? And I feel like if I was that guy, y 'all wouldn't be talking to me now. I wouldn't be here, so.
43:34Chad Johnson:You didn't build up a big group family.
43:38Shannon Sharpe:I agree with what he said. He's like, look, bro, give me a chance. What I did there, I did there. Now I'm here. This is a new slate. I'm with a new team. If I run a foul, you have the right to bring that up. Now, we done got it out of the way now, Ocho. Joe, we addressed it. Yeah. I don't need every time that we have a conversation, you talk about what I did in Memphis two years, three years ago.
44:06Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, but we know. We know it's going to follow him, Ocho. I know he don't want to hit. I know he want to move on. I know he want to start over. He can have a new slate. but hey man some of the images that's left in people's head bro they they want to know your thought process what you were thinking at the time what he has to do is just stay focused bro and keep grinding yeah and that's it head down keep chopping wood partner but but along with that too uncle joe obviously chat y 'all listening to me too we have to understand what makes java marron special you know what what makes him as exciting in the polarizing player that he was in Memphis.
44:43Not the off-the-court stuff. I'm talking about him on the court. Still remaining, allowing him to be himself without losing his edge. You know, you can taper it back a little bit, but don't take away what makes him special. There's a certain if factor that he has, and there's a certain presence and aura that he brings and energy, you know, to a team. And we saw that with Memphis. So we don't want to take it all away from him.
45:08Shannon Sharpe:No, we just don't want... How about this here, Ocho? Just keep the guns off social media and keep the guns out of the building where you shouldn't have them. That's all we ask you, Joe. Hey, hold on. I got one more. Okay, can he throw the grenade at least? No, we let the grenade go. Let the grenade go.
45:24Chad Johnson:Hey, listen. I like all the antics because, you know, for one, it lets me know he's enjoying the game and having fun. And it seems like he's lost his joy for the game, Uncle Ocho. And I could be wrong, but just by listening to him talk, Like, I want to see him get back enthused about playing the game. I want to see him get back to being that kid that we enjoy watching, bro, who was box office, star-studded every night, you know, putting on the show. That's what we want to see, man. Like, you know, body language don't lie. You know what I'm saying? So when I see you out there training, working out, playing, like, I want to see that enthusiasm coming from him, bro.
46:05Chad Johnson:Like, I just feel like the past couple years, because he's dealt with so many injuries and so many setbacks, you know, that it's took the love and joy and passion away from him. Even times he has played Arcan Ocho Hill, he's just been, you know, just kind of out there. I want to see him get back to having fun, man. And you know what also, too, though? You know, not only a change of scenery, it can be a good thing for you, but it can also be a wake-up call. Absolutely woke him up. They moved him. He was their franchise player. I was just going to say that. You're the French Rite player. You're the face of Memphis over there.
46:41And they had the nerve to move me.
46:42Shannon Sharpe:And they didn't get a whole lot from you. That lets you know, Joe. Now, the next move you know is going to be because they got little or nothing for an all-NBA player, an all-star player that's 25, 26 years of age. They basically had to give him away.
46:57Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. That ain't normal, bro. So, hey, hey, hey. He another guy. You know, we talk about JB who's going to be motivated. I'm looking forward to Ja, you know, being motivated as well, bro, getting back to enjoying the game, man. I got to see it, bro. He got too much talent. He's phenomenal, man. Too much talent, Uncle Ocho. I got to see it, bro.
47:20Shannon Sharpe:But guys moved to a new start for me. I know it's back there, but okay, change of scenery. Now, he go here cut up. Now, you just lost me. But I'm willing to give the man the benefit of the doubt That he's at a new scenery He has a change of scenery I believe Hopefully he's learned his lesson And he's going to be a model citizen Like I said Just keep the guns off social media Don't take them where you're not supposed to have them And you'll be fine I don't know what made the man put a firearm On social media Joe I still don't understand that
48:01Chad Johnson:Hey hey just...
48:04Shannon Sharpe:You don't be thinking, Joe. You don't.
48:06Chad Johnson:I mean, you get so caught in the moment, bro, from the times that it did happen to him when he was in the little strip joint and riding with his partner. You get so caught up in the moment, bro. I don't know, man. I don't know.
48:19Shannon Sharpe:Joe, I ain't never... Joe, we flew... Look, I ain't never thought about taking that tool with me on the road.
48:28Chad Johnson:I ain't either. I ain't gonna lie to you. And it used to be a lot easier back in the day, boy. Well, you get that thing on there. I'm talking about when nobody know nothing.
48:36Shannon Sharpe:Nothing. Because we pulled right up, got off, ain't had to go through no metal detector. They just rocked your ass right up on the steps of the plane.
48:43Chad Johnson:Nothing. Nothing, bro. I'm talking about.
48:49Shannon Sharpe:And I definitely, I definitely ain't talking about. Barney Portis to tell us all the time, he says, son, if you got to take a weapon somewhere with you, you don't need to go there. Right. Right. You don't need to go there.
49:01Chad Johnson:he learned his lesson man he learned his lesson I believe so yeah I believe so because behind all that hell he lost a lot of M's boy even though even though even though he still has one of the hottest shoes out and the man ain't really played it lets you know bro how how iconic he is and what he means to the culture because these kids love him bro they do they love him
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50:04Shannon Sharpe:Draymond Green wants to know if UD, Udonis Haslam, will keep the same energy for BAM punching Tyler Hero that he did when Draymond punched Jordan Poole. In order to provide a full context of what this beef is brewing, here's Draymond, full quote about UD. Let's take a listen.
50:21Chad Johnson:I remember one person when the Jordan Poole incident happened with me was who was really, really, really outspoken about this, about it, who, like everyone else, didn't have a ton of context because he wasn't there, but was really outspoken about it. and it really bothered me was Udonis Hazem, and the reason it really bothered me is because, man, everybody can have an opinion, and your opinion is what your opinion is, but, you know, I saw Udonis Hazem get into it with guys on teams that was younger than him before, a la Jimmy Butler. I had seen that before, and then he came out, and he's like, that's ridiculous.
51:05Chad Johnson:You get into it with your young guy. I can't believe you did that. And it really bothered me because I was like, damn, man, like, so this dude ain't never been in practice where somebody get into a fight. He never got into a fight in practice. Maybe not even in Miami the whole time. Maybe they don't have fights in their practice, you know, the heat, what is it, heat culture or heat way. Maybe they don't have fights. It's like it really threw me for a loop because, you know, I don't really care what most people say. But when I have respect for certain guys, it does matter when you have respect for God.
51:47Chad Johnson:And so when I saw that, I was just like, damn, man, this dude doing what everybody else doing, acting like he. And so when I first saw this, I was like, damn, this is two young guys you've done as Haslam Rays. and yeah they're not on the same team no more but if you raise this young guy in the light of what you were saying about me and now he punches this young other young guy that y 'all kind of co-raised are you gonna have that same energy and the reality is i don't really want to have the same energy because i love bam that's my brother love bam it's my dog won a gold medalist gold medal together.
52:27Chad Johnson:So I actually wouldn't want someone even had that same energy towards Bam. I just was wondering like, man, I wonder what Udonis Haasim going to say.
52:44Shannon Sharpe:He said something back. Well, here's the thing. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but you detweeted at Money Green. I see things just don't change. You was on some sucker Ish for years when you swung on Jordan Poole and you also sucker ish now I usually don't engage but since you went so far to the left to get my attention here it is If you think your big 32 year old three or four rings at the time have it Asked swinging on a 23 year old Jordan Poole at the same time it's same Then you're even more delusional than I thought as you can see right there. He said look Bama is 28 Tyler Hero is 26
53:23Shannon Sharpe:and he goes on, he says, call it heat culture or whatever you want before I let one player disrespect Spoh in front of the squad. Cut his legs out, disrupt 15 other guys trying to get accomplished. I'll kick his ass. I owe that to Zoe, to Tim, Glenn, and the rest of the OGs. I don't really vibe you and I think you know that unless it's me and Brian talking hoops, I won't mention you at all, but you basically said you brought it to me, so that's what it is, what it is. Me personally, I don't think, look, I see it from both sides of the equation, Joe, but I look at it like this. And the one mistake that Jordan Poole left, Ocho, you know if you got tension.
54:10Shannon Sharpe:Okay, somebody on one end of the field, and y 'all talking, man, F you, Ocho. Ninja, F you. You ain't going to do nothing. All that woofing, all that talking. As long as you over there, I'm over here. We good. What I'm not going to let you do, Ocho and Joe, is close the distance. And you still got that hostility.
54:29Chad Johnson:Hello.
54:31Shannon Sharpe:That was Jordan Poole's mistake. First of all, somebody got that hostility, you don't let them walk up on you. You get off the first one. Now, if he's still standing off that, you might have to take off running. But if you get off a clean shot and he's still standing, you're going to get your ass whooped anyway. Well, two things you got to have, right? I'm not sure where Jordan Poole grew up. I don't know anything about his background. I don't either, Joe. You always have to understand, for one, spatial awareness. Yes. Spatial awareness, you know, and understanding and having self-awareness, especially when you get into it with somebody.
55:03I think maybe Jordan Poole thought, well, we're in a structured environment. You know, we're at practice. I don't expect anything like that to happen here. But that's what most of the time happens in general. It happens. So, I mean, it happens.
55:17Shannon Sharpe:What did they do that at? Joe, what did they do that at? You argue. You don't see pickups. You know all of a sudden if two people, and obviously I'm saying a football field, but in a basketball court, the basketball gym and practice gym is only so big. So you can hear everything he's saying. And that man getting closer and closer. And y 'all still, the elevation is in both of you guys' voice. Yeah. Yeah. And you let that man close the distance to be able to get that shot off on you.
55:45Chad Johnson:Yeah. Because because if you see the video, Jordan Poole kind of pushed him first. And then that's when it came with the, you know. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, you know, I don't really know, bro. I think in certain situations, certain guys, he wasn't thinking that Draymond was going to. He ain't thinking that. Man, this is my damn teammate. Yeah, we're going to have disagreements. We're going to be pissed at each other. But see, basketball and football difference. Do you have fights in the locker rooms? Hell yeah. But I bet you in football, hell, it's 52, 53 on the damn team. It's way more fights in football than it is in basketball, especially doing teammates.
56:20Chad Johnson:Y 'all play a gladiator sport.
56:22Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean? It's just a difference. And you know why, Joe? Because as you said, there's so much testosterone, and ain't nobody willing to let nobody punk them. So somebody might be willing to take an ass-cutting. Just to prove a point, you not finna punk me. Especially when you start when that voice start elevating. You know though Joe we've all done been around. We done been in a fight. I ain't been in no 15. I ain't no professional fighter. But I've been in enough fights and I've seen enough situations I'm like okay let me try to defuse this because I already see where this thing is heading.
56:56Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nobody backing down and ain't nobody going back down unless somebody try to let cool ahead prevail. I'm like hey man come on bro we don't need this. Nah Now, hey, I'm going to see if he really owns what he talking about.
57:08Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah. You really got to have somebody to step in and de-escalate the situation. Because even though we teammates, you know, man, when them emotions get high, boy, you ain't studying all day. You ready to go backyard.
57:18Shannon Sharpe:Damn that teammate. I don't know you. I ain't never seen you before. A day of my damn life. Fact. Fact. Because, hey, you acting reckless. And there are certain key words, all that. Hey, suck my you know what. You a B. Whoa, whoa. As a matter of fact, we have one trigger word down here in Miami. Actually, two trigger words down here in Miami. If you call anybody this, it's time to go. I don't care where you're at. Your church, school, graduation. It's on. You call somebody a fuck, nigga?
57:49Chad Johnson:Yeah. Man, listen, man. Hey, tell your grandma I'll take a church hat off. I'm glad I know your trigger word now. I got you. Hey, listen. Hey, Joe, don't play with yourself like that.
58:03Shannon Sharpe:Oh, this is fucking big. I was like, oh. And I get what Bam said. Draymond, you 32, 33 years old. That's a 23-year-old. He ain't expecting that. He's not expecting this OG. But you have to like, okay, the mere fact that we're in an argument lets me know that, hold on, this ain't normal. Yeah. Have you ever seen Draymond get in an argument with Klay? Have you ever seen him get in an argument with Loon? Have you ever seen him get in an argument with Steph? So you got to, hey, you got to like, okay, I got to maneuver this, man. Hold on. Wait a minute. And he getting close and close. And like you said, Joe, he pushed him.
58:45Shannon Sharpe:Man, that man done walked up on you. Yeah. He done closed the discos. Yeah. No. Yeah. I'm sorry.
58:51Chad Johnson:It's super unfortunate, but I disagree with Draymond because it's a whole total different situation, bro.
58:57Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that man wasn't talking about you. Yeah. I mean, what the story is of the legend is that he was talking about how he was cooking him in practice. Tyler Hero allegedly was saying stuff and somebody took a screenshot of it. Right, right. That's a whole different. I don't believe Bam would have just gotten into an argument. Nothing. All of a sudden, they stay teammates. And all of a sudden, they get into an argument about something. I don't see that happening. I don't know. People get mad and people say things. You know, sometimes, hey, a lot of times when people get upset, they've been dying to tell you that anyway.
59:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. They just did an opportunity that never presented itself, Joe, for them to tell you how they really felt about you. This was the opportunity to really tell you how they really feel. And then there are other reports came out that says, you know, Jimmy Butler allegedly distanced himself from band because they felt band was untouchable, the Heat organization. And I read there are other people in the Heat organization. I don't know. I mean, I'd just be reading it. I'm like, whatever. It is what it is. But I'm just saying, I don't agree with Dre on this one. I understand his point he's trying to make.
1:00:05But it's, the question is, if Tyler Hero doesn't say what he says about Bam,
1:00:15Shannon Sharpe:does Bam have the reaction that he has? I don't believe he does. I don't know Bam. All I know is Bam what I see on television. I don't know the man.
1:00:24Chad Johnson:No. It's certain stuff you can keep in-house, even if there's rumors about you, and maybe you even know them to be true. But when somebody posts something about you, bro, it's different. Hey, when we see each other, at least we got to rap about it. You feel me? Yes, for sure. You know what I mean? I don't know if Bam just fell away and just stole off on him, but damn, bro, this how you been feeling the whole time?
1:00:47Shannon Sharpe:Well, that seems to be the consensus that he walked up and, hey, what's really power? Damn, you didn't even know what's wrong. You didn't get wrong, guy. You just said, what's the pile? But like I said, I don't know, Bam. And that's the thing also, Joe and Ocho, you know this. You've got to know a person's disposition. You've got to know who you can joke with. You've got to know who you can play with. You've got to know who you can like certain things. Like, hey, certain people, you can't make no jokes about their family, about their kids, about anything. You make a joke about guys play and do be ready to fight.
1:01:23Shannon Sharpe:Like, all right, that was? Hell, my grandma could have caught that one. Yeah. Man, wait, hey, let that go. Shit. I'll let it go just like you let that ball go. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But you got to know because everybody don't play like you play. No, no. You got to be aware, honk. It's all about self-awareness, knowing who you can joke with, especially in a locker room with 53 players. You know who to play with and you know who not to play with. I had this problem. You know how I play around. Remember, I don't think he was there yet. When Zeus, Orlando Brown. Orlando Brown. Man, Joe. I had left.
1:02:01Shannon Sharpe:I had retired when he came back to Baltimore. Yeah, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had already retired, Ojo. It's a story, Joe. We had that warming up before the game started. You know how the players warm up? I'm like, golly, man, dude, big as hell. Mind you, me being my funny self, I wouldn't have jumped on his back. You know how people jump on your back? Yeah. On his back. You didn't know him? No, I ain't know him. I ain't know him. But I thought, you know, I thought, you know, when he saw it was me, he was going to be cool. Yeah. Man, Uncle Joe, man, that nigga tried to whoop my ass on the field, boy.
1:02:35I had to run to the locker room just to finish warming up. I had to go get Big Willie. I had that Big Willie come out and talk to him. You know, Orlando Brown Jr., he talk about that story all the time every time I've seen him, man. Rest pop soul, man. Hey, everybody don't play the same, though. I learned the hallway because he was, hey, Hey, Joe, he was dead serious.
1:02:54Shannon Sharpe:No, he wasn't a guy that really messed around like that. Played like that. Hey, I'm like, I'm just playing, man. He said, I don't give a fuck. Who the fuck you think I am? You need to be jumping on my back.
1:03:03Chad Johnson:Yeah. And he squared up with me. And, man, I took off to the locker room, man. Hey, hey, hey, I bet you didn't jump on nobody else down back, did you? Well, yeah, Ray. Ray Lewis. Yeah, you saw what I did? Oh, man, come on. Come on. Hey, hey, but you're right. But you're right, though. You don't know, bro. And you take a guy's demeanor for granted. He may have been thinking like, man, I ain't never seen Bam pissed off. He ain't going to do nothing.
1:03:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, mess around and find out. And what happened if the day that you want to joke, he's having the worst day of his life? Ooh! You going to catch the repercussions of it? You don't know what somebody endured while they were a child. Oh, man. You don't know their background. Because remember now, when you deal with an individual, lady deal with a guy guy deal with a lady you're not just dealing with her you're dealing with her past you're dealing with her trauma yeah so you don't know it might be a situation that somebody has said something to him and he wasn't in a situation where he could defend himself like he can now yeah now you put him right back in a situation that he had hoped he'd never be in but he can defend himself now.
1:04:18Shannon Sharpe:Now you got hell on your hands. Now you got the A. Everybody A. You got to be a hostage negotiator to talk his ass down. I'm just saying. And now you got a black eye. See, plan.
1:04:32Chad Johnson:Plan.
1:04:32Shannon Sharpe:Now it's, it's, it's, cause I like, like you walk around on the team. Y 'all still got to be teammates and this man done whipped you. I mean, how that worked? Oh, how that worked? Hey, I'm just saying, Chad, I don't know. Because I've been on a team when we had fights. And, you know, I ain't know. Everybody know. I was kind of like the voice of reason. You know, I'm trying to keep peace with everybody, defense, offense. But then sometimes, hey, you say something about somebody's mama, and his mama's dead. What's up? What's up? Hey, I have how many fights you've had? You didn't know that. Junk, you ain't never had no fights in training camp?
1:05:14Especially training camp. No. Nah. Hell no, man. Oh, Joe. Man, it's 100 degrees. We're going to be out there two hours. I'm saving that energy. Yeah, I had one fight. I'll never forget. I had one fight with our safety at the time. I think it was – I don't know if you remember. His name was Madu Williams. He was good. He was nice. I do. I know, yeah. Really, really solid safety. And we got into it. I forgot what it was. Maybe he hit me after a play or something like that. But, yeah, it wasn't long. We just, you know, a little scuffle.
1:05:41Chad Johnson:Yeah. That was it. That was the only time I ever had a fight. and I was in training camp at Georgetown. And probably we had that fight because we was tired of playing against each other. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he probably overly aggressive. Yeah. Oh, Joe? Huh? He was overly aggressive. I think so. I think he might have been. And knowing that, okay, we got the pads on, if anything, just thud me up. Of all players that actually hit, don't hit me. Yeah. We need, hey, Joe, don't hit me. We need to hit on Sunday. You know, and I just, you know, well, Marvin said, well, Marvin hit that whistle. Man, two motherfuckers don't get y 'all that.
1:06:21And then that was the end of it right there.
1:06:24Shannon Sharpe:Dang. No, I ain't. Because I already know. Well, we're not practicing hard enough. If you got that kind of energy to fight, we're not practicing hard enough. Let's go. Another 30 minutes. Bro, we out there hour 45 already. Yeah. And in two a day? Oh, man. Nah, bro. Now, if you have a joint practice, Ocho, that's something entirely different. Yeah, now that's always going to be fight, no matter what. I'm tired, man. What you want to do, man? Hey, let's get out of this practice. Every play, Joe. Hey, hey, hey, hey, cut it out. Hey, get his ass out of there. Somebody in there, get in there. Next play, same thing.
1:07:07Same thing. You know what's funny, Joe, Uncle Joe? What's that? Every year on ESPN, they have these long think pieces about joint practices and everybody fighting. Mind you, I've been retired now 13 years, and every joint practice, it's a fight. And they get on ESPN acting like, oh, my goodness. I can't believe they fighting in training camp. I can't. Hello. Have y 'all ever been in an organized activity with two different teams competing with pads on? Hey.
1:07:38Chad Johnson:That's going to always be a fight. And plus, hell, y 'all tired of playing against each other. So once you do play against somebody else, all that testosterone started to come out because y 'all playing a sport that's built off contact. Yeah. Y 'all looking for it. Y 'all looking for the confrontation. Mm-hmm.
1:07:57Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe. Yeah. Joe. We play a sport that was built on intimidation. That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. We're trying to move a man. We're trying to break a man's spirit. Yes. That's what football was founded on. You got a plot of land. I got a plot of land. My job is to try to get as far as I can on your plot of land. Your job is to try to get as far as I can, you can, on my plot of land. I ain't going nowhere. Because I know if you keep setting up shop on my side, pretty soon you're going to own the real estate, and I ain't going to have nothing. Hello. Hello. I like that.
1:08:37And it's so funny. If you think about it, Uncle Joe, I mean, obviously, y 'all see me in person. Joe, you see me, Uncle, you see me, you know, for years is is the intimidating factor is I wasn't able to do it because I'm not imposingly intimidating at all. No joke. I tried to intimidate as well, but I played the mental game. Right. Trash talking. Now, if I get you out your game, I'm gonna get you out your game up here. not with this because I don't have that so I had you talking trash to get you out the game if I can get you angry I got you I got you by this much I just need to get you angry I need to get you to converse with me which is why I never wore a mouth beating joke I ain't wearing a mouth beating on purpose if I can get you in a conversation I got him all game
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