Best of NBA News Part 1: Lakers OFFSEASON moves + Draymond vs Barkley ... Again?! + Building a franchise around one WNBA player

13:28Chad Johnson:That ain't one, boy.

13:31Shannon Sharpe:Think about it. What did they say when they played Luka? We want Luka to guard, so we're going to put him in the pick and roll as great as he is offensively. When you see the clutch situation the last five minutes of the game, what happened? Austin Reed last night, what did they do every time they wanted a basket? A.J. Mitchell or Shea? Whoever he's guarding, bring him to me. I need to see it. Y 'all watch the game? Yeah. It's going to be very, very interesting. You better get some guys that can defend. Whether LeBron is there or not. I'm ready for LeBron to leave. I really am. Because all they do is blame him.

14:11Shannon Sharpe:Because all I know, their last championship was 2010. And the next one they won was 2020 in the pandemic. Nobody. Once Kobe retired, because you've got to realize Kobe was hurt his last couple years. Kobe was shooting under 40 % his last couple years. Nobody was even talking about the Lakers until LeBron went there. And you didn't have to recruit him. He went on his own. Hey. I want him to leave. And I want to see how many championships. Because if you think about it, Joe, let me tell you something you've never heard about the Lakers. The Lakers, how many championships? They won a lot. Now, the Heat had one championship.

14:52Shannon Sharpe:And what do they sell you before they got any more championships? Heat culture. You hear Golden State. You mean to tell me a team that got 17 championships ain't got no culture? I'm looking for something, Joe. Come with that now. Who they developed?

15:16Shannon Sharpe:Kareem wasn't there. Shaq, you didn't drag Shaq. Shaq When last time they developed a player

15:29Chad Johnson:I see where you're going Hey

15:33Shannon Sharpe:But they try Oh boy Rob Rob Think about Okay You wanted Luke So Magic says I'm up out of here The next year later You lose Ty Lue Now you're going to get Vogel Guess who his backcourt was Two of the smartest people to ever play in the NBA. LeBron James and Rajon Rondo.

15:54Chad Johnson:Yeah.

15:54Shannon Sharpe:What y 'all want to run? What y 'all want to run? I ain't ready to get up and get sweaty. My knees hurting tonight. Hey, Bron, Rondo, my knees and my back hurt. I'm sitting down tonight. Handle that. Okay, you know what, Frank Bowles? Frank, they have a dial year. LeBron get hurt. They get swept, I think. The Suns. Did you get Darvin? ham.

16:20Shannon Sharpe:I just want to know what y 'all going to do. I'm anxious to see because I'm a Luka fan. I'm an Austin Reed fan. Austin Reed story should be a documentary. Yes. For a guy to come out that's an undrafted free agent to average 7 points, 9 points, 13 points, I mean 19 points, 23 points, it should be studied. Just go to show you what you can do when you put your mind to it and you put the work in. A lot of it has to do, Joe, sometimes, you know, you got to go to the right situation. He went to the right situation. He spoke in glowing terms how LeBron took him on his wing. He didn't have to. But I'm going to be watching.

16:57Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to be watching. Now I'm going to need to see some championship Lakers fans. I want to see some championships in the next five years. I need to see some championship Lakers. Okay, now you say the next five years. Now that makes much more sense. Because what they need... I'm giving them five. I'm giving them grace. You want me to be more generous? I say 10

17:16Chad Johnson:Nah Hey Hey Hey Man they got They got the They got to take a real look at You know Some roster changes Just in order to get to To what I'm talking about

17:30Shannon Sharpe:In the next five years Will OKC be better or worse Than what they are right now Joe?

17:36Chad Johnson:They gonna be shit They probably gonna be better Or the same

17:39Shannon Sharpe:Okay in the next five years San Antonio They're gonna be better or worse Than what they are right now Joe?

17:44Chad Johnson:Better

17:45Shannon Sharpe:Well, damn. So either they need to move to the Eastern Conference or the Lakers need to step their game up. Now, one of the two need to happen.

17:55Chad Johnson:You better figure it out.

17:58Shannon Sharpe:Oh, wait. The problem was, and I don't know if LeBron really, really factored this in. It's kind of like the situation where you don't fully evaluate the situation. We go in and we drop a couple of bombs on Iran, and what's the worst they can do? where they can shut that thing down and you'll make it hell on you. Hmm. Hmm. LeBron, let's see. I'm not really homegrown. I've been their most beloved and cherished players, Chief Rivalry, for a decade plus.

18:32Chad Johnson:Mm-hmm.

18:33Shannon Sharpe:How am I going to feel? How are they going to feel if I come in? Because people's minds are warped. See, they don't, they like, well, he trying to erase Kobe's legacy. How you erase somebody's legacy? Kobe's already done what he did.

18:48Chad Johnson:Right.

18:51Shannon Sharpe:He's trying to enhance the Lakers, make the Lakers relevant, no matter what you think. Lakers wasn't on TV like they were. When they had all them guys and they were celebrating and doing all kinds of crazy stuff, don't nobody talk about the Lakers. Go back. When last time? We hadn't talked about the Lakers since Kobe's what? That 60-point game. We didn't talk about the Lakers before, and we hadn't talked about them since until 1-23 showed up.

19:20Chad Johnson:Mm-hmm.

19:23Chad Johnson:Yeah.

19:30Shannon Sharpe:Caruso,$9 million a year. That's what the Bulls offered him. Nah, we ain't going to match that. A guy that's 3-and-D. outstanding defender and can knock down shots. Remember, he made three big threes last night. Last night, yeah. And he played outstanding, and he plays outstanding defense. That's what he's known for. I mean, you had him and KCP.

19:58Shannon Sharpe:But you know what? They say, you know what? We don't want to lose Tucker, Taylor Horton Tucker. We don't want to lose him, Joe. So we're going to give him three years, $32 million. Now where is he currently?

20:09Chad Johnson:He overseas somewhere Damn Yeah

20:14Shannon Sharpe:So LeBron James is a free agent Austin Reeves has a player option Rui is a free agent DeAndre Ayton, player option Marcus Smart, player option Luke Kennard, free Jackson Hayes, free Maxi Kleber, free

20:32Chad Johnson:You want to bring a couple of them guys back Try and bring a couple of them guys back

20:36Shannon Sharpe:Well, Rui definitely should be. You definitely should try to bring Rui back. You definitely should bring Rui back. That's it? No, I'm saying that. Look. I mean, I don't know how many guys you can bring back. Austin Reed's going to opt out of that country.

20:50Chad Johnson:I think that's going to determine a lot, A.R. Is he going to get a max deal or is he going to get somewhere close to a max or is he going to take somewhat of a generous discount? because if he take 250, okay, Ocho, yeah, that's a big chunk of the pie.

21:11Shannon Sharpe:Yo. Because if you look at that group, the only guy in that group that can defend is Marcus Smart. Yep. He's the only guy that can defend. I thought he did a great job on Shea. Last night, yeah, he got his buckets, but he made him work for it.

21:27Chad Johnson:Yeah. When you talk about four series, when you talk about four series, I thought he'd done a hell of a job if you ask me. Hey, listen, you guarding arguably the best player in the game right now who's probably going to be the MVP. Listen, out of four games, bro, he had one game to where he was him. He went off. Yeah, you got to live with that.

21:52Shannon Sharpe:Somebody told me you lied. Lakers wasn't on TV. I don't remember Lakers being on TV. when Kobe went cold. I don't remember them going to be on TV because Kobe was hurt. You're a lie. Like it wasn't on TV. But I tell you who was on TV, the Cleveland Cavaliers.

22:05Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah.

22:06Shannon Sharpe:And the Golden State Warriors. The Boston Celtics, when they had them young guys coming up, Tatum and Brown, Smart, Al Horford. I can tell you who was on TV. You see, it's easy to say that now because LeBron's there. They're going to be on TV after LeBron leaves because Luke is there. But you're a lie. You a lie.

22:29Shannon Sharpe:They wasn't on TV. Yeah, they were in the L.A. market, but they weren't broadcast nationally. Don't do that.

22:40The product wasn't the same?

22:43Shannon Sharpe:No, it wasn't. It wasn't. L.A. is predicated on winning. Yep. It's predicated on winning. So if you don't win, what do we say? Ocho, Joe, we know because we have the luxury of being able to go where we want to go. There's too much going on in L.A. for you to go sit in a building. You can sit on rooftops. You can sit on decks. You can go to the beach. And I'm going to go sit somewhere where they're losing, and I can be up in Malibu? I can be on Venice? I can be at Newport? Santa Monica Pier?

23:25Too much to do.

23:29Shannon Sharpe:It takes a lot to...

23:36Shannon Sharpe:Boy. But it's amazing how we remember things. You know, sometimes our memory is what we want it to be. You know. We can go back and look at things. And what's the first thing they say, guys? I don't quite remember it like that. I bet you don't.

24:00Shannon Sharpe:I bet you don't. But we're going to find out.

24:03Chad Johnson:Yeah.

24:04Shannon Sharpe:We're about to find out. We are. Look, Luka, my guy, I'm going to root for him. I rooted for him when he was in Dallas. It was great when he came to the Lakers because LeBron was there. I root for Luka. But I'm a LeBron fan. I didn't make no secret about that. I've been a LeBron fan.

24:22Chad Johnson:Hey, hold on. But do you really feel, you really think it's a great chance he's going somewhere else, though? Yes. You do? I told you, Joe, I said that, what, that last night show? What show that was I said that?

24:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I said, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. It's just hard, Joe and Ocho, man. Come on now. The Warriors. Joe, you've been making 50 million. How long you been making 50 million? And they want to break you off with a little eight piece? You done had 50, you done had been eating 50 nuggets, 50 pieces. Yeah. They try to go and get that little six piece. You're like, man, come on now. Hold on. Hold on. Hey, I got, listen. And I got, I got something that can fix that too now. What's that? What? They want to give him a little six piece. You been getting 50 all this time, right? Yeah. I got one place he can go where they can give him that six piece and he can make up that 50 based on where the environment is in.

25:14Shannon Sharpe:Huh? Go to New York, huh?

25:16Chad Johnson:Ta-da. You can, hey, hey, hey. Huh? I'm not saying New York wouldn't be a great place, but they still playing, and we don't know how they may finish out. So, you know, that's kind of hard to kind of.

25:27Shannon Sharpe:Because they're not going to want to break that. Hey, let's just say for the sake of argument, they go to and they win the championship. They're not going to be foolish. You might have some people break their entire roster up and talk about, oh, we get a big name.

25:38Chad Johnson:No.

25:38Shannon Sharpe:Because you're going to have to get off some of those pieces that make you click. Why would you have to get off them? People are going to want OG. People are going to want Miles Bridges. Well, hold on. McKinsey, excuse me, McKell Bridges. LeBron is free, huh? You don't have to give up nothing. But to make the salaries work, Joe. I just told you he'd take the six piece because he could make more off the court because he's in New York. He said, I can make that anyway.

26:03Chad Johnson:Hey, look, Ojo. I know he would love to win another title, but I don't see that man taking no discount, bro. I don't. I don't. I don't see him taking no discount. That kind of haircut?

26:16Shannon Sharpe:Ojo, I want to like fade. you gave me a ball thing. You balled me. You gave me the Kojak. But listen, I just gave you the only place, maybe the only other place, that's the only place. The only other market. Where if you do take a discount, you're going to make up for it times 10 being in New York anyway. Well, if that's the case, he can make up for it in LA too. All of his projects are out there. His production company is out there. The TV shows, the game shows, the movies, the documentaries. Man. They're not winning nothing. They need too many pieces.

26:48Chad Johnson:No, they just need a couple. They need, like, another piece of equipment. Oh, Joe, come on. And they need these guys to stay healthy, Ocho. You can't. We never seen them full strength for real, bro. And when we did. Hey, look. And I'm going to tell you another thing. I listened to Bron press conference. He didn't really sound like he was too. He didn't sound like he was too happy about that damn. That role he was playing early in the year. No. If you ask me. He sound like, you know, I played it because, you know, that was best for the team. but you know like he said man hell he he hadn't played that role he said since ever he said then

27:21Shannon Sharpe:he said ever yeah then he said ever because he's like hold on i get luca i get luca but how austin reeves just pole vault me he said i get luca that man is is 14 15 years younger he can score the basketball just like i can he can rebound the ball just like i can he can facilitate i just like i can respectfully. How Austin Reeves jumped me though? It's because I was just an all NBA selection last year. I was just in the all-star game last year. Luka was first. If I'm not mistaken, Luka was first team all NBA. So I get Luka. I'm not arguing that, but I just want y 'all to tell me how did AR jump me?

28:04Chad Johnson:Because listen, okay. We didn't think AR was going to come out to shoot blazing like he was the first 20-25 game. The man was unconscious. Hey, hey, listen, listen. We know you big dog over here, man. Hey, we need you to kind of just fit in with the guys because we don't want to pull the reins back on AR. We want him to keep going, but we need you to fit in seamlessly, be that Swiss Army knife, you know, keep the morale of the team up and see what you can add and see if you can be a value of service to what we're trying to build. You know, I don't I thought that, you know, maybe the Lakers thought AR was going to be good, but I don't think they was anticipating that to start the season, fellas.

28:46Chad Johnson:Without Bron on the court, that man was insane them first 20, 25 games. He was. He was cutting up, boy.

28:52Shannon Sharpe:But let me ask you a question. Y 'all keep on talking about Heat 41 and AR and this and that. Who looked the best in the playoffs against the Thunder? Now, be honest. Put your dislike and hate aside. Who looked the best against the Thunder?

29:09Chad Johnson:Well, listen, listen, listen.

29:11Shannon Sharpe:Hello, John. I'm waiting on the chat to respond. Give me a second. Just a second, John.

29:14Chad Johnson:All right, all right, all right.

29:19Shannon Sharpe:Whoa, hold on. Now, just a minute ago, I was talking, and y 'all was just hot. All this, everything with LeBron. It's coming up. Well, damn, why y 'all so slow down? Who led the Lakers in points? Who led the Lakers in rebounds? Who led the Lakers in assists? You mean to tell me a 41-year-old outplayed 25, 26, 27-year-old? Something ain't right, Joe. My grandma should say, boy, something in the milk ain't clean. Oh, yeah, come on down. You know, hey, you know that boy a different breed now.

29:52Chad Johnson:He a different breed. Bron, he a different breed.

29:58Shannon Sharpe:Hey, everybody talk about Rui. Rui, Rui, I told him Rui was the most consistent, but that wasn't one of the questions. You see how they changed it, Ocho? Well, who did I say? I said, who out of Austin Reeves and LeBron? You see, instead of getting LeBron credit, what did they do, Ocho? So you had A or B. They say C, but C wasn't one of the options. You see how they did it, Ocho? They switched the narrative, huh? See, y 'all debate for fun. Y 'all go debate your homeboy. I'm a professional debater.

30:28Chad Johnson:Yeah.

30:29Shannon Sharpe:You see how I boxed them in? They didn't even know I boxed it in. But they did what I wanted them to do, Joe. I wanted him to put Rui to make my point Ocho. You see, that's how you debate. You give them one or two answers, and when they give you something else, bam, drop the hammer. That's how you do it. See, that's how you walk somebody into a trap when you debate.

30:53Chad Johnson:And they didn't even know it.

30:55Shannon Sharpe:They thought they were doing something. Rui, Rui. Walked you into a trap you didn't even know I had set for you. Now, what were you going to say, Joe?

31:07Chad Johnson:Hell, I forgot what we were talking about. Hey, I'm still mad, Joe.

31:11Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all go ahead and talk about yourself. Hold on. I'm going to come back and pour me a drink. All right, go ahead. What you got, Ocho? I'm still mad. You said the goddamn Lakers healthy would have beat the Thunder. You said we don't know. Listen. What you mean we don't know? Joe, Joe, don't do that. Joe, you have elite ball knowledge.

31:29Chad Johnson:Ocho, Ocho. I'm not saying they would have beat them. But I damn sure don't think they would have got swept. And what I'm saying is the fact that OKC is down an all-star player, probably second leading scorer, man, you don't know how things could. Hey, look, if Luka would have been in this series, hot as fish, he averaging 40. Joe, we've seen the Thunder without Shea. They ain't miss a beat. We see Shea go to the bench. They still ain't miss a beat. and they still don't have their second leading score. They're not missing the beat. They have too much depth. It's not happening. I got one for you real quick.

32:11Chad Johnson:What you got? Knock, knock. Who's that? OKC. OKC who? OKC your ass later next year, Lakers.

32:28Chad Johnson:Listen, bro. Look. I think with the Lakers running the OKC, meaning them being the best team in the league, bro. But what they had, I thought they put up a pretty damn good fight. See, the thing is, AR had to catch rhythm throughout the series. Ocho, the man had been out over a damn month with this rib thing. So for you to jump right back in the fire against the best team, okay, not only the best team, but the best defensive team, Come on, bro. It's going to take you a couple games before you really can get back to yourself. If you can get back to yourself. I thought he gave them a couple pretty good games considering, you know, what they was fighting up against.

33:11Chad Johnson:But, man, look, if you got Luka, bro, I just think it would have been a different series. Okay. All right. I think they'll still be playing hell.

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37:10Chad Johnson:I'm doing the playoffs. Like, come on, bro.

37:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, guys. Draymond Green took a shot at Charles Barkley, and that didn't go over well on the inside of the NBA. Dray said the goal is just not look like you in a Houston Rockets uniform. Damn. First is blaming Steve Kerr, then Austin Rivers, not disrespecting Chuck on television. What's going on with Draymond? I don't think... See, people just see Chuck inside the NBA. Right. They don't realize how great he was. They don't. Wait, hold on. You don't think Draymond Green understands how good Chuck was, even though he didn't win the ring? Hell, even I know how good goddamn Barkley was. Ernie said he stuck up for Chuck, telling Draymond he has 43 games with more turnovers than field goal in the playoffs.

38:04Shannon Sharpe:He's tied with Kendrick Perkins for the most since 2003.

38:08Chad Johnson:Who, Draymond in?

38:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

38:12Chad Johnson:I think, because, hey, look, Barkley was a hell of a player. And what he said was he didn't want to look like how Barkley looked in Houston. But, hell, Barkley made the offside team, I think, his first year in Houston.

38:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, look at, pull up Barkley's numbers in Houston. People think Barkley, yeah, he wasn't what he was in Philly. He wasn't what he was in Phoenix. In Phoenix, yeah.

38:32Chad Johnson:But he was still a hell of a player. And it's hard to, I don't like the comparison, because Barkley is more of an offensive presence as opposed to Draymond, so the comparison isn't even there. It makes no sense to even compare the two. But when you look at it, Uncle Ocho, Draymond done won four rings, and Barkley ain't never won no rings.

38:56Shannon Sharpe:But Draymond ain't a better basketball player than Charles Barkley.

38:58Chad Johnson:I agree.

38:58Shannon Sharpe:In that first year, y 'all know what Charles Barkley averaged? 19 points, 13.5 rebounds. Can I interest you in that?

39:07Chad Johnson:13 rebounds is crazy.

39:10Shannon Sharpe:At 6 '4".

39:15Shannon Sharpe:And 5 '6". Like I said, people don't realize. Let me tell you what happened. And I think Draymond, everything that he's been able to do. But what people have done, they've allowed rings to be the end-all, be-all. And you're taking guys with rings and say, well, because he has rings, he's better than X. No. No, no, no, no, no, no.

39:38Chad Johnson:Yeah.

39:40Shannon Sharpe:Barkley would like that, boy.

39:43Chad Johnson:No, sir.

39:45Shannon Sharpe:I mean, like I said, people just, like I said, I know Barkley. I know Chuck. And people take their shots at him. But go look at his numbers for a career.

39:55Chad Johnson:Bad boy.

39:58Shannon Sharpe:Name another guy. No, Barkley wasn't, Barkley was 6 '4".

40:08Shannon Sharpe:How many years he played? Barkley played 16 years. How about this for a career? 22 points and 12 rebounds.

40:17Chad Johnson:For a career?

40:19Shannon Sharpe:We ain't talking about no one season. 16 seasons.

40:24Chad Johnson:It was bad. Is that pretty good, Chad?

40:26Shannon Sharpe:22 and 12?

40:27Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah. I can speak for Chad. I can tell you that. I'm serious, man, because I remember, I remember, I remember arguably when he was the best player in the league. What was that? 93 when they played the Bulls. Yeah. Yes, man. If y 'all don't do nothing else, Chad, if y 'all don't do nothing else, go to YouTube and look up Phoenix Suns versus the Bulls in 93, bro. Now, MJ was a bad boy, you know. Yes. But I think Barkley, did Barkley win MVP that year? Yes, he did. He beat Jordan. Bro, the man was unreal out there. The way, I think, not only did he have game, but it was his attitude and his approach.

41:09Like, he knew, he knew couldn't nobody mess with him.

41:13Chad Johnson:And that's how he went out and played.

41:17Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, man, look, and what we've done, there are guys that doesn't have rings. and then we're taking guys that have rings and say, well, they better. No, they're not. No, sir. No, you're not. We got to stop this. At that point, it's about understanding the game in general, outside of rings, understanding players' skill sets, what they meant during the era that they played in, how good they were, as opposed to just rings in general. Who he's having to guard. Think about who he's having to guard at 6 '4". He guarding guys 6 '9", 6 '10", at 6 '4". Yeah. And holding his own. Yeah.

41:59Chad Johnson:I think in Draymond's defense, though, Uncle Ocho, y 'all know Barkley, he started it. Of course. Yeah, he threw a slight at Draymond.

42:08Shannon Sharpe:He told him, he said, look, it's over for y 'all. Y 'all been got old. Yeah. Yeah.

42:12Chad Johnson:Yeah, he just kept it real.

42:15Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

42:15Chad Johnson:Yeah. And you know, hey.

42:18Shannon Sharpe:Joe, they have gotten old.

42:20Chad Johnson:They have. They have. He not.

42:25Shannon Sharpe:Joe, they talking about basketball reflets talking about he's 6 '6". Charles Barkley ain't no 6 '6". Charles Barkley's 6 '4".

42:32Chad Johnson:Yeah, about 6 '4", 6 '5".

42:34Shannon Sharpe:Maybe. He's not even that nice. He done had that hip replaced and shrunk and you get older, you know, he's straight.

42:40Chad Johnson:Yeah.

42:40Shannon Sharpe:But, man, y 'all got to see. And that's why we get up and said it was Zion. Because Zion is a more explosive Charles Barkley. Yeah.

42:50Chad Johnson:Man, we were just talking about this dude today, bro. Zion how the talent that he has and that's just that's what we were talking about earlier in the show you mix that talent with that damn hard work yes he already can't be guarded bro he could be a top he could easily I'm saying if his mind was made up he could easily be a top 5 player in this league today I'm talking about Zion easy can't nobody guard him but

43:21Shannon Sharpe:But I think the thing is that back then, those guys listened. He said Moses Malone told him. He said, Charles, you got two things wrong with you. You fat and you lazy. He said, Mo, what do I need to do? He said, we're going to lose 10 pounds. Hey, we ain't going to lose it all at once.

43:48Chad Johnson:as a young guy bro coming into a professional sport that's what you need you need a veteran guy who's gonna keep it 100 with you yeah and ain't gonna let you slide with that bs especially when they see how talented you are yeah they like look bro if you drop 10 15 20 pounds you're gonna be a bad mofo yeah i just need you to lock in and when you got guys like that bro that'll take That'll take your career to another level.

44:12Shannon Sharpe:He said he got him down. He said he got him down. He was like 290. He said he got to 280. He said he felt okay. 270 felt good. 260. He said once he got to 250, he just started cutting everybody's ass.

44:28Chad Johnson:Man.

44:29Shannon Sharpe:He wasn't playing. He wasn't. And Charles Barkley was explosive. I'm talking about dunking on everybody.

44:36Chad Johnson:Yeah.

44:36Shannon Sharpe:Ain't no way that man's supposed to be able to do a jump like that. And Zion more explosive than that. Now, he can't shoot like Chuck because Chuck can shoot.

44:44Chad Johnson:Chuck can shoot. But as far as being explosive, having a better handle, he got all that better than Chuck.

44:52Shannon Sharpe:And my problem with Zion, Joe, at that size, he got to get more than five, six rebounds a game. He got to be a double-double. Yeah. He got to be a double-double.

45:02Chad Johnson:Too talented, too athletic, too gifted.

45:07Shannon Sharpe:Check this out. 2026 GM survey results are out. If you were starting a franchise today and you could sign any player in the WNBA, who would it be? In 2025, it was Caitlin Clark got 50%. Asia Wilson got 33%. In 2026, Paige Beckers get 33%. Asia and Caitlin tie for 20%. And Dominique, I think this is the French woman, at 13%. I'm going to say this, Joe. I followed the WNBA since it came out in 1996.

45:39Chad Johnson:Me too.

45:40Shannon Sharpe:I'm not taking a woman over Asia. Asia.

45:43Chad Johnson:No, sir. If you say, okay, we're scoring, Maya Moore can score like Asia. Yeah.

45:50Shannon Sharpe:There might have been women that could score like Asia. Cheryl Swoops, Cynthia Cooper. Yeah. Lauren Jackson. Yeah. Okay. Rebound. Well, could she rebound like Sylvia Fowles? Could she rebound like Leslie? Yes.

46:05Chad Johnson:Yeah.

46:05Shannon Sharpe:Could she play defense? There's not been a woman in the WNBA that has the total package with Asia Wilson has.

46:13Chad Johnson:You absolutely rebound.

46:15Shannon Sharpe:She led the league in scoring. She led the league in rebounding. She's a three-time defensive player of the year. She's a three-time champion, a two-time finals MVP, a four-time. No disrespect and respectfully, Cheryl Swoops, Cynthia Cooper, Lauren Jackson, Lisa Leslie, Simone Augustus, Diana Taurasi, Maya Moore, all of them watched them all play, even in college. I'm taking Asia Wilson.

46:42Chad Johnson:Me too. Hey, because when you look at it, Uncle Ocho, the WNBA, it's not like the NBA to where, you know, the NBA is perimeter oriented. You know, the WNBA, if you got you a girl down there who can get something done like Asia, you play inside out, bro. Yes. You know what I mean? I mean, yeah, there's some girls in the WNBA who can score, But for the most part, if you got her Asia, that's who you starting your offense with. Hell, she been impeccable. I agree with you. I agree with you. I don't know how she tied for second on this. I'm definitely starting my damn team with Asia.

47:16Shannon Sharpe:Now, look, if you're trying to sell tickets, you want endorsements, okay. But if you're trying to win, I ain't taking nobody over Asia.

47:23Chad Johnson:No.

47:23Shannon Sharpe:You crazy?

47:24Chad Johnson:Not right now.

47:24Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, I saw them all play. I voted up in college. Breonna Stewart. I ain't taking nobody over Asia.

47:32Chad Johnson:No.

47:34Shannon Sharpe:And she should be favored to win the MVP again.

47:37Chad Johnson:Yeah.

47:38Shannon Sharpe:And even though she should have won back-to-back MVPs, defensive player of the year, Nafisha Carl, you can feed got her.

47:45Chad Johnson:Yeah.

47:46Shannon Sharpe:Scoring. She can score. She can rebound. She can defend.

47:49Chad Johnson:She can pass. She can do everything. She can do everything.

47:56Shannon Sharpe:All the Paige Beckers is unbelievable. She is. I love y 'all. Hey, I love Kaitlyn Clark. And like I said, Maya Moore, Maya Moore went to Collins Hills in Georgia. Yeah. Knew her career. Lisa Leslie and Coop. Coop was on that, those teams, those USC teams with the...

48:15Chad Johnson:Cheryl.

48:16Shannon Sharpe:Cheryl. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, with Cheryl Miller and McGee. Yeah. Pam and Paula McGee. Yeah. She's on that team.

48:23Chad Johnson:Yeah.

48:24Shannon Sharpe:They won back-to-back 84, and then Clarissa Davis, that great Texas team, went 36-0 in 1986, beat them. So I go wave at all of them. Like I said, Tina Tom, all of them. I'd debate anybody on that.

48:42Chad Johnson:Yeah, I agree.

48:44Shannon Sharpe:Candice Parker. I'm taking – Candice is the only one to come in and win Rookie of the Year and MVP. She was the MVP and Rookie of the Year in the same season. And she's been a defensive player of the year. And she's – Yeah. This girl here is unbelievable.

48:58Chad Johnson:She is, bro.

49:00Shannon Sharpe:And like I said, I haven't seen the other – I saw Taurasi play. But to watch her play – and man, and they got – and they got Chelsea Gray, they got the point guard, and they got Jackie Young. They loaded again.

49:16Chad Johnson:Oh, they got a hell of a team, though. They loaded again. They got a hell of a team.

49:21Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to go see them play, too. I might go see them open at night. When? Drop the ball and get the rings. When is that? Hold on, they get ready to play. They play Saturday. Damn. That's open at night? Yeah. I think they play open at night. Don't they play Saturday open at night?

49:50Open rings tomorrow. Aces play Saturday.

49:54Shannon Sharpe:Aces play Saturday home, right? Damn. I got to do a better play. I'm going to a game, though. I'm going to a game. I'm going to see them. Huh? Overnight starts tomorrow. Yeah. And look, these, hey, and I'm so glad these girls are making, they're making big-time money now. Hey, A's going to be making 1.5. These girls, the money's going to be flowing. Now they're not going to have to go overseas. They can stay right here and make a good living. They still have the unrivaled league. they can make even a little bit more money. Man, Asia Wilson is as good a WNBA player as I've seen.

50:29Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, they trending in the right direction, WNBA is. Bro, it's going to continue to grow. Hey, look. Yeah. I told y 'all, man, I got a 12-year-old. I told her here, by the time she 18, another six years, girl, look. Them girls are going to be making some real money.

50:43Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Which player forces the opposing coaches to make the most adjustments? In 2025, it was Asia Wilson at 33%. 3%, Kaitlyn Clark, and Breonna Stewart for 22. And this year coming up, Asia Wilson got 13, Alyssa Thompson, Phoenix. Who will win the key of WNBA MVP? Feed, Nafisha Collier with 67%, Asia Wilson 25, Kaitlyn Clark. 20 26, Asia 60%, Breonna Stewart 27%. Now you know she would have known to be 5. Hey, Nafisha Chakala Collier, she coming off an injury, ain't she? Yes. Ankle. I think you messed up her ankle.

51:27Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah, she could play, though. She could play, but.

51:29Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

51:30Chad Johnson:I know. She got some game, but Asia, I mean.

51:33Shannon Sharpe:It's different. Which team will win the WNBA Finals in 2025? It was Minnesota going into New York, Indiana, and Las Vegas. And then in 2026, who is it going to be? Las Vegas 40 % New York 33 % Atlanta's been getting a lot of love With Alicia Gray And now they got Angel Reese And they got Ryan Howard So But man Angel like I said man She was Now I used to love the comment But the comment they had Cheryl too Because when they first got there Cheryl was pregnant Cheryl didn't come right away So it was Coop it was Tina Thompson and one lady because they won four straight titles they won the first four and I think might have been the final MVP all of them I think she was the first MVP I think two times but boy you got to think about it she was in her 30s Yeah.

52:49Shannon Sharpe:So just imagine if they'd have had, when she was like fresh out of college. Yeah. But this lefty with Chelsea, Jackie Young, and Asia.

53:02Chad Johnson:Too much. She got it, fella. Man, five MVPs.

53:10Shannon Sharpe:If she was this, she'd be a fifth one. And what, did she just turn 30?

53:15Chad Johnson:Mm. Asia. Hey, hey, hey. And you see she just came out with that A1. Yeah. It's nice, too. She's 29.

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56:42Shannon Sharpe:Woo, Joe, I couldn't wait on this. Miles Turner, he peeled back another layer of Milwaukee's tumultuous 2025-26 season on the Game Recognized Game podcast. Turner says Doc didn't find anybody this season, despite repeated tardiness, and Giannis was most likely the Bucs players to be late. Let's take a listen to what Miles Turner had to say

57:08Chad Johnson:We get fined for all types of stuff now You guys get fined a lot? It depends on the coach So, Doc Rivers, he didn't find anybody Guys were late all the time Guys were, you know, showing up to film whenever they wanted to show up Guys were missing meetings Like, it was one of the craziest things I personally experienced We literally, if the plane took off at 2 o 'clock We weren't leaving until 4.30 I'm being so serious, bro It was crazy, though Guys were an hour late to the plane It got to the point where I just, I knew not to show up until like an hour. It was taken off. It was crazy. So who's the teammate that's most likely to be late?

57:41Well, all of yours, obviously, because nobody gets fined. Giannis. Giannis is going to show up whenever he wants, really.

57:46Shannon Sharpe:You know, I think that it's kind of just came with the territory that. And once I kind of saw it was going down, I was like, hey, man, more power to you. They ain't going to fine you. Do what you do. Except when we were going to Dallas. That's when I was like, all right, come on. Right now we're getting fined for missed free throw box outs. Honestly, that's a good one. I'm not mad at that. I'm actually not mad at that at all.

58:04Chad Johnson:Well, we're a little bit mad about it. Because it's like, all right, well, what if the ball goes out of bounds? There's no possession. What if like, there's always a caveat to it. Yeah, bad bounce.

58:16Shannon Sharpe:Hey, stuff like that supposed to stay in house. Hold on. Hold on. Before you go, Ocho and Joe, they have since deleted this video. I mean, I would. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You have any call? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Talk to me. Talk to me. a lawyer might ask a question and one lawyer in the defense of prosecution says objection and the judge says sustain how do you make the jury unheal what they heard too late sustain now the defendant is not supposed to take that into consideration jury whatever you just heard disregard it pretend you didn't hear it I heard what he said i saw the video the man said yannis was most likely to be late he said that we showed up an hour plus late he's the leader of your team your team yes absolutely go ahead now listen you you right and i'm with you when you're right huh i'm not saying what yannis is doing is okay but i'm saying the things that go on in locker rooms the things that going on on on team functions and and and stuff like that that always stays in house well he gone so i would tell it oh yeah you know how it is when you get to the boy oh when you break up what the girl say yeah you ain't had no meat i wasn't you weren't doing that anyway they say all the things right yeah yeah they they they do that but you don't you rarely hear this from players very very very rarely but all of a sudden now during this era that we're in now where everyone has a voice everyone has a platform you have podcasts and stuff like that everyone likes to tell

59:57Chad Johnson:some of the things that are always kept in-house you know and when you think about it this mile Turner's, it was his first year in Milwaukee. Okay. So listen, probably, that probably had a lot to do why Doc resigned. Because listen, if the animal's running the zoo, fellas, how the hell we gonna keep, how we gonna keep everything in order? Hey, Joe, that's a good one, boy. If the what? The animal's running the zoo. Ooh, that's a bar. That's a bar, Joe. The animal's running the zoo. Meaning, I come and go when I please. I don't get police. I don't get no repercussions. ain't no fines. Man, you two hours late to the damn plane.

1:00:36Chad Johnson:What? Hey, Unc, you know why they able to do that? What kind of money NBA players got? They got guaranteed money. Not that FU money. They got that FU money. They do what they believe. Hey, Unc, can you imagine if we were late to a plane on the NFL game?

1:00:52Shannon Sharpe:After they take your money. Hey, listen. Now, Joe, not only are they going to leave us, we got to get our own flight going to wherever we going, wherever we playing. And matter of fact, not only that, Joe, we probably won't start.

1:01:02Chad Johnson:Okay, Ocho. Normally, your ass get left. I don't care who you are. I done seen the star players get left, bro. And, yes, you had to book your own flight, and you had to meet us there. I'm telling you, that ain't normal, bro. That's not normal.

1:01:19Shannon Sharpe:That's the behavior of a guy that says, F, y 'all. I don't want to be here. I'm ready to go. And I'm going to show you how much I don't want to be here because I'm going to come when I want to. And I'm telling you what's happening. This is a guy I'm showing you. Now, what I'm telling the media, oh, I want to be here. I love it in Milwaukee, my home, yada, yada, yada. But what he's showing the team and the higher-ups, I don't want to be here. I can't make it any more abundantly clear than by not showing up on time. But listen, none of us would have known this, Uncle Joe. See, Giannis is saying one thing publicly.

1:01:57trying to keep a clean face. Miles Turner comes, goes behind his back, and say, let me tell you who Giannis really is. Yes!

1:02:03Chad Johnson:Think about it. Think about it, though, Ojo. Hell, he didn't even play a whole hell of a lot last year, so he's probably missing this plane, and he wasn't even dressing up. Thank you. Oh, okay, okay, okay. He was hurt, you know what I mean? But that still doesn't make it right, though, Joe. Hold up, what I'm saying. If you're not playing, you can't be coming two hours late. Yeah, no, no, no, no. It don't make it right, but what I'm saying is Miles Turner and the crew, they out there grinding night in and night out, practicing their ass off. And you mean to tell me you still traveling with us, but we still got to wait for you.

1:02:33Chad Johnson:We got to wait on you. Come on, bro.

1:02:36Shannon Sharpe:We got to wait on you. But you the leader of the team. It's hard. It's hard because you want your best players to be your hardest workers and your best teams. There you go. Locked in. Because, Ocho, remember when we first started, I said, Ocho, I remember watching the guys, and I watched Steve Atwater, and I watch how Dennis Smith and I watch John Elway, I watch the guys. I say, that's the kind of leader I want to be. Because I know that when I got in that position, the young guy's going to be watching me. If I'm a season meeting and I'm still playing at an elite level, if I'm late, they're going to think that's acceptable.

1:03:12Yep. You see what Giannis has done? That's crazy. You know what? Remember I said I want players. I want coaches. I want to be able to speak their mind. I want to be honest. You don't want that now. I want to say something. No, no, no. I still want it. But this is not what I'm talking about. I ain't talking about snitching. I ain't talking about that. I want to be honest how they feel when it comes to things that involves themselves. Let me tell you how I feel about the situation I'm in. Let me tell you about what I don't feel comfortable with this situation or this organization or my playing time or stuff like that.

1:03:49Not going and sitting on the goddamn platform. talk about what another player did and exposing him. That's snitching.

1:03:58Shannon Sharpe:And most of those things that happen in locker rooms are supposed to be sacred. How about you come to... Hold on. So Miles Ternison said, Giannis is a 10-time greater player, but why is his time more important than mine? But he's telling us we didn't do X, Y, and Z, and he's not doing what he's supposed to do. Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm telling you, guys, they follow what you do, not what you say yes sir you talk your ass off yeah how you gonna talk about you talking about late for me to come on guys well if you for me I would Joe hey it's happened now I've never I've never been late for a team play and I used to hate being a rookie because Ocho you know I'm a rookie you gotta go get donuts or you gotta go get fried chicken and I'm like come on man y 'all know come on man hey hey shop I want this get me a three piece spicy.

1:04:53Shannon Sharpe:Now I want Popeye's. I want KFC. I said, look here. Everybody go to these. Get Popeye's or get KFC. I'm not going no two damn stop. Now y 'all will have to whip my ass or I'm going to whip y 'all ass. But I'm eating what you want.

1:05:05Chad Johnson:We get Popeye's or we get KFC.

1:05:07Shannon Sharpe:But I'm damn sure I'm going to Popeye's way over here and KFC over there. And I still, I got to get, I got to go home, get dressed, get my stuff, go get the stuff. Nah, nah, I'm not doing all that. It's a lot. You know what's funny, Uncle Joe? What's that? I don't know anything about it. As good as I was when I played, especially in my goddamn prime, as crazy I was when it came to my antics and my on the field stuff or the stuff I did in front of the camera, through the media, when it came to my opponents, nothing really malicious. There was one thing I never did that scared me a little bit.

1:05:38Chad Johnson:What's that? I would never be late. Yeah. I was always on time. I didn't fall asleep in meetings. I always conducted myself like the profession I am because I didn't want them to be able to say anything about me anything else because when I touch the field I'm an act of ass I'm an act of ass so everything outside of that unk I did it right and another thing that it tells me about the Milwaukee Bucks players man they ain't respect doc if you respect your head coach bro and you know he He's non-tolerant. Right. Your ass going to be on time. Right. Period, point blank. Now, if you lean in, meaning, okay, I've been late a couple times and there's no repercussions.

1:06:25Chad Johnson:I ain't been punished. I ain't been fine. Why not be late again? Yeah. You got to have a deterrent.

1:06:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:06:33Chad Johnson:Like, I think you have to, if your head coach doesn't command or demand respect, bro, the players will try and run over you. That's just like you being in a relationship with a female. Bro, if you don't put your foot down, homie, she going to do whatever she want to do.

1:06:49Shannon Sharpe:Go out when she want to. Oh, I'm going out with the girls tonight. When were you going to let me know this? Right now? Oh, no. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. You go. I'm not going to tell you what you can't do. But I guarantee you, good luck getting back in here.

1:07:07Hey, Uncle Joe, just think about that. just thinking about what Giannis is able to do obviously the money's different, it's guaranteed they have FU money in the NBA but just showing up late in general, whether it's meetings whether it's the team playing, like there's a certain fear, there's a certain fear in me that would be scared to do that

1:07:27Chad Johnson:I don't know what it is that would scare me

1:07:31Shannon Sharpe:what you had was a respect for your teammates and the coaching staff because you felt that your time wasn't any more important than theirs, Giannis felt because he was the best player, a two-time league MVP, a finals MVP. His time was more important than theirs. And he says, I'm going to come whenever I want to come. And when things start to fall apart. Now, see, he'll tell that. Now, I want to see if he's going to tell that story. I want to see if he's going to get on the platform and say, yeah, guys, I was late. And that's on me. He's going to be pissed. He's going to be pissed. He's going to be pissed.

1:08:04Hey, how about this, Joe? Why do you think they deleted it? other NBA players, how are other NBA players gonna look at Miles Turner?

1:08:13Chad Johnson:Do you mean like - How they gonna view him? Meaning like if you were in our locker room, you gonna be telling stuff that's going on. Yeah, but think about this. What's the situation with Swaggy P? Back in the days with - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. D 'Angelo Russell? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:08:26Shannon Sharpe:You see how that's - Yeah, well that's what the - You had to fire on him, you gotta fire, you gotta whip him. You gotta whip him. I'm just - No, no, no, no, for real though, Joe, you know that.

1:08:36Chad Johnson:You got to whip him. A man put you, a man throw you under the bus like that that told all your little business to your old lady. Ain't no, I whip him every day.

1:08:45Shannon Sharpe:It's the same thing. I whip him every day and I won't make him say, no, I was just, we were just playing. That ain't happen.

1:08:52Chad Johnson:Hey, but here's what I will tell y 'all. Hell, one of them, Miles Turner or Giannis, one of them gonna be gone. I think y 'all can. That's why Giannis did it.

1:09:01Shannon Sharpe:Giannis know he was gone. That's a blame. It's kind of like, we like, you know guys, I love this because we always like to equate a lot of things to relationship. When you know you about to leave a relationship, you go and come as you please. You leave, hey, where you going? Oh, I'm going to see the fellas. And little buddy? Yeah.

1:09:23Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

1:09:26Shannon Sharpe:You walk in the house at four o 'clock, five o 'clock in the morning, like it ain't nothing.

1:09:30Chad Johnson:Hello. Whoa, hold on, hold on.

1:09:32Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Uncle did that before? No, man, you know good and well, I can't come in the house past 12 o 'clock, I'm asleep. Hey, Joe, you ever tried to break up with somebody and came in the house when the sun was coming up?

1:09:45Chad Johnson:I done had, yeah, I done been there. Yeah, to the point to where I was just fed up, like, man, to hell with this. I'm like, yeah. I come home when the hell I come home. You know what I mean? Yeah, what repercussions do I have for this? I'm hoping you say it's over.

1:10:03Shannon Sharpe:I just ain't got the courage enough to say it, but I'm hoping you say it's over. That's the thing. Let me tell you how I am, guys. I'm not coming late. I've always been a guy. Everybody know how I am on time, so there ain't nothing new. But ain't no way in hell. If my coach is my complexion, and I know how hard it is for them to get jobs like that, ain't no way I'll undercut it. No way. if I could show up for Dan Reeves if I could show up for Wade Phillips I could show up for Mike Shanahan Brian Billick I'm damn sure showing up for Herm Edwards I'm damn sure showing up for Mike Tomlin I'm damn sure showing up for Tony Dungy I'm damn sure showing up for rest of your soul Denny Green there is no way in hell because I know how hard it was for them to get in that position and now I'm one of their best players and I'm late now hell nah yeah

1:10:58Chad Johnson:Yeah. That's tough, bro. But I done seen it. I done seen it on several occasions, fellas. You know, basketball and football are a little different. Like I said, it's a lot of leniency when it comes to, you know, basketball. Like, we don't have to sleep in hotels, meaning when we at home and all that, you know, you kind of come and go as you please. We ain't got no curfews. It's a little different. Wait, hold on. Y 'all ain't got no curfew the night before a game? Hell no. Man, we still there. Oh, shit. Man. That's how it was when I was in my first three years. Because Dan Reeves, he was big on family.

1:11:32Shannon Sharpe:Coach Landry was big on families. He felt the players would play better if they were at home with their wives, kids, significant others, come to find out, guess what? They wasn't spending time. They might spend time, but there might be 3 o 'clock.

1:11:53Shannon Sharpe:I just – Boy, this baffles me. But it just goes to show you.

1:12:03Shannon Sharpe:Leadership comes in many. Some people's like, hey, do what I say, don't do what I do. Some people's like, look, I'm going to lead. I'm going to show you how to do the right thing. This is how I eat. This is how I prepare. This is how I study. This is how I make sure I get everything. We'll be on time. It bothers me, man. I hate that. Oh, Joe, you and I were great players. Joe, you were a great player. It would have been nothing for us. the part about being a great player is to have privileges and don't abuse them bingo you took the words right out of my mouth I couldn't find a sentence structure but you just said it I wasn't doing that that's the problem you don't think Tom Brady had privileges you don't think Peyton Manning and John Elway I've been with Ray Ray was the defensive player of the year he was on time he could get on time because he knows guys are watching him yep I just don't I don't get it man I don't get it yeah that's crazy I hope this doesn't call the trickle effect though Joe and you know how many things go on in the locker room you know how many things go on at home in the streets that only we know about because we're all in the same circle when something happens we all know people talk there's certain things that never get out because it stays within that confinement, that fraternity, that brotherhood.

1:13:31Now if we get players deciding to come out and tell things that nobody would know unless they run their mouth, I hope this is not a trickle effect. Another player decides, well, you know what? I got a story too. Let me tell this story about this player. Let me tell this story about this player. And not everybody telling everybody got their secrets.

1:13:49Shannon Sharpe:Now this could have been a situation where Giannis did this. Not only did he do it with Doc, He did it with Bud. He did it with Adrian Griffin. Whomever the coach was, I don't know. Maybe this is who he is. I don't know. I don't know. I just know. I don't care, Chad. You can't convince me because someone is great at something. His time is more important than mine. It's not. If I found a way to get there, he can too because there's a great chance he has a better car than mine. Yeah. Why do I have to? Why do I have to? He's not the only one that's married with kids. I promise you he's not.

1:14:33Chad Johnson:No.

1:14:34Shannon Sharpe:He don't love his kids any more than the next man love he is. I got to get there. I got to be the film study Ocho. I got to be the treatment. I got to get to shoot around. I got to get to the practice. I got to get to the plane. Why can't he? As the best player, that's what you want. You want that response. do you understand how great you have to be to have a certain level of responsibility? Everybody don't have this, that responsibility. Having that level of responsibility is a privilege. Joe. Yeah. You know what you always say to, remember we've had, we've had situations where NFL receivers that come late all the time.

1:15:15And the first thing you say is you think it's the first time they did that? No,

1:15:19Shannon Sharpe:absolutely not. So this is probably not the first time he did this. This is just the first time that someone that was part of that team put it out there publicly. Yes, of course. Hey, listen. Might have been something you've been doing all the time. I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised.

1:15:32Chad Johnson:I think the disheartening thing is that, you know, we hold Giannis to a, you know, we hold him on a high pedestal, bro.

1:15:41Shannon Sharpe:Super high.

1:15:41Chad Johnson:And you just, I'm going to be honest with y 'all, I never would even guess this.

1:15:45Shannon Sharpe:I wouldn't have either, Joe.

1:15:46Chad Johnson:He looks like he's the hardest worker, which he probably is. Yeah. He looks like, you know, he's always on time. I'm just telling you what it looks like. I never would have guessed what Miles Turner said that that's what Giannis was doing. I never would have guessed it. And he was quick, Joe.

1:16:02Shannon Sharpe:That man didn't go through no other names. That man said, who's the most, Brie Stewie said, who's the most habitual offender? Oh, Giannis. I mean, without hesitation. No, I was like, let me think.

1:16:20Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

1:16:24Shannon Sharpe:Giannis?

1:16:29Shannon Sharpe:That's why we love our illusions, because we don't want the truth, because it would destroy our illusions. And Joe said he had this illusion of what Giannis was, hard worker, he couldn't, two things can be true, he can be a hard worker, and a repeat, habitual, tardy guy. Yeah. And think how hard, and Joe, certain players fight to keep that image clean. Of course. Think about it. And then you have people like Miles Turner come out and say things like this. That tarnished that said image that Joe had and who he felt Giannis was. Yeah. But we're smart enough to know. We saw through a lot of Giannis Bull Jive.

1:17:10Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I do what my agent says.

1:17:14Chad Johnson:Child please. Thank you.

1:17:15Shannon Sharpe:I don't know anything about what's going on. So you mean to tell me your agent is having conversations about your future and you don't know nothing about it?

1:17:25Chad Johnson:Man, please.

1:17:26Shannon Sharpe:You know absolutely nothing. Oh, whatever my wife. Bro, you really going to put that on your wife? Right. You really going to put that on your wife? My wife is going to decide where I go. Right. And so he's going to leave that. Okay. Well, you know what? He ain't got to worry about being late no more. where he gonna be down here in Miami and Pat Riley don't play that and Spolster gonna find you he ain't gonna be late a lot of this is on Doc and see but this is how Doc coach Joe because I've heard Doc speak and I've heard a lot of players that play for Doc Doc is a guy he let the players handle it I'm gonna treat you like men I want you to show up I want you to do what you're supposed to do and remove me from the equation y 'all handle that y 'all got an issue going on somebody like each other hey y 'all handle that i don't want nothing to do it i don't need to know about it hey y 'all gonna you you can't everybody is not wired like that some people you got to step on their neck let me take that back yeah apologize can't use that phrase some people you got to you know you got to get on them yeah yeah yeah you just got to get on them because they won't do right joe they will not and the one thing that you don't want to have happen is that your best player developed this type of attitude.

1:18:50Shannon Sharpe:Because, boy, if he develops it, good luck corraling him.

1:18:54Chad Johnson:Yeah. Hey, I'm with you. You got to put your foot down, bro, meaning to where every man on that roster respects you, bro. Especially from top to bottom. I don't give a damn who it is. And when you a head coach, if you super lenient, because I've been on teams like that to where I've seen kind of players doing what they want, and coach is really not saying a whole hell of a lot, I know what it looked like, bro. I do too. And whatever you let a guy get away with, trust me, his ass going to run a thousand miles with it. Yeah. Hmm.

1:19:28Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, and that's the thing, because I saw guys do things with Wade. They didn't even think about doing it with Dan. It didn't even cross their mind. Yeah.

1:19:39Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:19:40Shannon Sharpe:But me, nah, bro, uh-uh, none of them do that. We was at the Super Bowl, and Brian Billick told a story. We ain't have no, Joe, we ain't have no curb day, no room check. The first day, do what you, hey, I'm going to treat, Brian's like, I'm going to treat you guys like men. He said, the only thing that I ask is that you ride to and from practice on the bus.

1:20:01Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:20:02Shannon Sharpe:We ain't got no practice. We ain't got no curfew. Just ride from the hotel to the practice on the bus, go back, and then once you get back to the hotel, if your mom, your girlfriend, somebody want to pick you up and you want to go wherever, take off.

1:20:20Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:20:21Shannon Sharpe:This dude like, man, you know, my mom and them coming, so I'm going to ride back. I say, no, the F you not. I say, no, the F you not. I say, Brian said, we only got one rule. The rule is to and from, and that's it. So, unfortunately, you need to tell your mom and your dad or whomever else, they're not going to be able to take you from here. They can follow the buses back to the hotel and you can get in the car and go with them then. Because you're not going to F this up for nobody else.

1:20:52Chad Johnson:Man.

1:20:52Shannon Sharpe:The end. We lived happily ever after. You're not going to mess it up. Nope, that ain't happening. And he, bro, hold on. You're not even playing.

1:21:07Shannon Sharpe:Boy, I wish I would.

1:21:08Chad Johnson:It'll be the worst one sometime. Okay, Ocho, the ones who don't get no clock, they ain't playing, they feel like they ain't included.

1:21:14Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:21:15Chad Johnson:And please, you gotta be on your bench damn behavior. Absolutely.

1:21:21Cause, uh, Michael send you home.

1:21:24Shannon Sharpe:Cause I know he done sent some of them home. Yeah. And I love it. Nah, bro, I gotta get up. Why you feel your time is more into, that's the way I look at it. You tell her, you say F Shannon. Man, F sharp. Because I got to get up. And I got to get here. But you don't. Who are you?

1:21:49Yeah.

1:21:50Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, I wasn't cut out to be everybody's teammate. Because I had a problem. I was there to win. I wasn't there to make friends. I had already accumulated enough friends in college. And what I didn't have in high school and college, if I didn't make it in the NFL, oh well, so damn be it. Oh well. Money and friends. I was coming to the NFL to make money, not make friends. Now, if in the process, if I got a couple, thank you. But if I didn't, oh, well.

1:22:17Chad Johnson:Right.

1:22:17Shannon Sharpe:I'd be the old man with a damn house full of dogs. Man, I don't play like that. We coming to work. We going to get our work done. We going to have a good time. And Mike would tell him, hey, have a good time. But he would also put me inside. 84, you responsible for him now.

1:22:33Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:22:34Shannon Sharpe:Man, hey, stretch it, Ocho. walking to the field, stretching. Boy, hey, we all, but the moment he blow that whistle, strictly business. You're locked in. Yeah. Strictly business. All that Kiki kid and all that foolery. I ain't about that. I ain't about that. Oh man, you, man, you, you, you, this, no, no, no, no, bro. What are you here for? You trying to win? So what we try to do here, we try to win. It ain't that complicated for me. I come to get better. You come to bulljive. Well, I ain't going to dime you out. But when the man asks me what I think about something, I'm going to keep walking. That's my answer.

1:23:28Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

1:23:33Shannon Sharpe:this is very disheartening for me to have this on Giannis because you got honestly it's hard for me to view him to do this it's hard because like you said Joe we have a perception of people I mean just imagine if you found out that Tom Brady was a jerk or Peyton Manning was a jerk when they're so affable and you see the person, especially Peyton. Peyton's been Saturday Night Live, and he might have had one of the greatest performances for an athlete on Saturday Night Live. And if you've ever been around him, Ocho, like you and I have, Joe, what you see, that's who he is. That's what you get. Yeah.

1:24:16Just like that.

1:24:17Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Peyton, this is my friend, son. Can you sign this autograph? Can you sign this jersey? Can you sign this? No problem.

1:24:25Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:24:25Shannon Sharpe:Anytime. Hey, hey, 84. or anytime you want to come back, hey, come on to the suite, come to the box. Tom is the same. People out, Tom is great. I saw Tom out here. What's that? That was, as a matter of fact, it was last June. It was last June. I went to the thing because he got this exhibit at the Fountain Blue.

1:24:45Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:24:47Shannon Sharpe:Anything you need. Hey, love what you do. I love, I love how you do your homework. You know what the hell you're talking about.

1:24:54Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:24:55Shannon Sharpe:You need anything from me, give me a call.

1:25:00Shannon Sharpe:so I let people I'll let y 'all talk but I know when I talk to them how they same thing with owners I think that's the greatest compliment is that something that a player or owner or gym can give you pull you to the side you do a hell of a job you do your homework now I might not like everything that you say but you know what the hell you're talking about give up the good work

1:25:26Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:25:28Shannon Sharpe:You'd be surprised at some of the teams that I've taken to gave in the sharpest critique. Their owners give you the greatest compliment. Their players give you the greatest compliment. So I'm doing something right. Boy, Asia Wilson had them off the game tonight, Joe. Ooh, you seen that? They beat the Suns 101-94. Asia, 15 of 18 from the field. She made all 13 of her free throws. She made both of her three-point attempt shots. The Aces have responded well after the opening night lost to Phoenix. They were having a hangover. Kennedy Carter, who's been unbelievable coming off the bench for the Aces.

1:26:08Shannon Sharpe:She had 18 points. She returned to the league this year after not signing with the team last year. She's been a godsend. She's been unbelievable. But this is why I said for me, And I go back to 1996 when the NWNBA started, and I know all the great players that's played in the NWNBA, from Candace Parker to Lisa Leslie to Cheryl Swoops to Lauren Jackson to Donna Taurasi, Maya Moore. I know them all. It's going to be hard. If she's not all ready to go at 30 years old and what she's accomplished, it's going to be very, very hard, Ochoa and Joe. When it's all said and done, they say there was a greater woman's basketball player than her.

1:26:57Chad Johnson:Yeah, you're right. You're right. She's been doing a hell of a job. You know they play the Atlanta Dream on Sunday. In Atlanta? I think they do play here in Atlanta.

1:27:11Shannon Sharpe:Are you going to the game?

1:27:13Chad Johnson:Man, I might go. Yeah, I might. Sunday? What's going on? Is there any games on Sunday? Yeah, Cleveland. Cleveland, Detroit. Game seven? Yeah, I probably ain't gonna go. No, it's at 1.30. They play at 1.30. That might go. Might go. Might go check them out. Man, she can do it. You know, Atlanta 2-0, bro. Atlanta 2-0, aces 3-1. I think it'd be a damn good game.

1:27:37Shannon Sharpe:I mean, they got Jackie Young had 13, Chelsea Gray had 12, Asia 45, 15 of 18, two and two from the three. Perfect from the free throw line, three rebounds, three assists, a steal, two blocks. That's what makes her so great is that she can do it on both ends of the court. I can make a case, a strong case. She probably should have five and four, five MVPs, four defensive players a year. Fee beat her two years ago for player of the year. Stewie beat her three years ago for MVP. She could have easily gotten that one. She phenomenal.

1:28:13Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:28:14Shannon Sharpe:So smooth. She is, bro. So smooth.

1:28:16Chad Johnson:Super talent. Oh, man, that lefty. She got a nice jump shot, nice post game, nice mid-range game. She got everything, bro. She does.

1:28:26Shannon Sharpe:She does. She does. I mean, in the women's college game, you look. I would have loved to see the situation. They'd have had a WNBA league when Cheryl Miller came out.

1:28:40Chad Johnson:Oh.

1:28:41Shannon Sharpe:Because she was the greatest basketball player I had ever seen.

1:28:45Chad Johnson:Damn.

1:28:46Shannon Sharpe:You got to see her play, huh? I saw her in college. Yes. When she won back-to-back, they won the national championship back-to-back years in 84, 85. They beat La Tech. Kim Mulkey was the point guard.

1:29:02Chad Johnson:Was she really? The coach for LSU?

1:29:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, used to coach at Baylor. Not coach at LSU. Kim Mulkey was the point guard. They beat. They went back-to-back. They had the McGee. Pam and Paula McGee. Yeah. JaVale McGee's mom. She was on that team. Cynthia Cooper was on that team. Cheryl Miller was on that team. Then in 86, Clarissa Davis, the great Texas team, went undefeated 36-0. So, yeah, I go all the way back with them. Cheryl Swoops had the greatest game I've ever seen a woman's college basketball player had. In the national championship game, I think she dropped 48 on Ohio State and Katie Smith. Y 'all go look at it. Did she really?

1:29:45Shannon Sharpe:That is the greatest women's college basketball game that I've ever seen. I mean, she...

1:29:49Chad Johnson:Cheryl Swoops. Yes! She was the first woman I know to have her own signature. She was right, huh? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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