In short
Best-of NBA offseason moves Part 2, focusing on Ja Morant joining Damian Lillard in Portland, a reported Giannis Antetokounmpo trade to the Miami Heat, and Victor Wembanyama taking a smaller max extension with the Spurs.
Guests
The episode is hosted by “Uncle Joe” and “Ocho” (no clear real names given in the transcript). They also reference “LT” and “Bill” in conversation, but no formal guest bios are provided.
Key claims
- Portland’s roster can’t carry four point guards, so one of the guards (Holiday/Scoot/others) may be moved; the fit requires Ja to play off-ball and improve three-point shooting.
- Ja’s off-court issues and injuries are why Memphis disassembled the roster; Portland is framed as a “fresh start” with Lillard mentoring.
- Giannis to Miami is presented as a major domino, with a package including Tyler Herro, Jaime Jaquez, Kyle Ware, three first-round picks (including pick 13), a pick swap, and a second-round pick.
- Wembanyama chose the 25% max instead of the 30% supermax, described as about a ~$50M–$51M pay cut to help Spurs roster continuity.
Notable examples
- Memphis trading John Morant for Jeremy Grant and Chris Murray.
- Discussion of Ja’s need to “lock in,” plus comparisons to other stars’ off-court discipline.
- Wembanyama’s Paris meeting with Spurs leadership and reps.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAnalyzing the Ja Morant Trade
0:00 to 0:34
Discuss the implications of Ja Morant's trade to the Portland Trail Blazers.
“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”
Analyzing the Ja Morant Trade
0:40 to 1:09
Discuss the implications of Ja Morant's trade to the Portland Trail Blazers.
“All of my professors throughout the entire journey have been nothing but supportive of making me reach my dreams.”
Analyzing the Ja Morant Trade
2:39 to 3:10
Discuss the implications of Ja Morant's trade to the Portland Trail Blazers.
“Bite into a stacked sandwich made with hero bread.”
Analyzing the Ja Morant Trade
3:49 to 4:36
Discuss the implications of Ja Morant's trade to the Portland Trail Blazers.
“The Memphis Grizzlies are trading John Moran to the Portland Trail Blazers for Jeremy Grant and Chris Murray.”
Point Guard Dynamics in Portland
4:36 to 5:24
Explore the dynamics of having multiple point guards on the same team.
“So you got Morant, Dame, Holiday, and Skul.”
Adjusting Playing Styles
5:24 to 6:32
Discuss the need for players to adapt their games to fit alongside elite teammates.
“We need some insurance, Ocho, meaning maybe Scoop come off the bench, Scoop Henderson come off the bench.”
Morant's Career Restart
6:32 to 7:38
Evaluate the potential benefits of Morant's fresh start in Portland.
“get you some floaters, catch a couple lives.”
The Importance of Off-Court Behavior
7:38 to 11:02
Highlight the impact of off-court behavior on Morant's performance and reputation.
“Obviously, Dane being in the game for a very long time, he can take up under his wing and show Young Bull the ropes on how to conduct himself with this fresh start that he's having.”
Role Allocation in Team Dynamics
11:02 to 12:22
Discuss the significance of defined roles within a basketball team for success.
“Ain't nobody looking at Ja the last three years, even though he only played 79 games, and say that's the Ja they remember from four or five years ago.”
Leadership and Accountability
12:22 to 14:00
Explore the need for players to take responsibility for their roles in a team.
“somebody that valued a defensive player.”
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Team Dynamics and Roles in Basketball
14:00 to 16:20
Understanding the importance of defined roles in a basketball team.
“You're asking a guy to do a – that's why you have other guys.”
LT's Impact on Defensive Positions
16:20 to 18:10
Exploring how LT transformed defensive positions in football.
“James Harden getting you 50-point triple doubles.”
Portland Trail Blazers' Roster Changes
18:10 to 21:40
Analyzing the implications of recent trades for the Trail Blazers.
“Ricky Jack are really really cool but bad that Joker there well he was a hit boy look here I I hate, I wish LT could have played in this era.”
Dame Lillard's Shooting Prowess
22:31 to 26:43
Discussing Dame Lillard's unique shooting skills and game impact.
“They just happen to be playing when Tiger played.”
Ja Morant's Future and Career Revival
26:43 to 28:00
Evaluating Ja Morant's career trajectory and potential comeback.
“Meanwhile, Memphis has traded all three of its former franchise cornerstones, John Morant, Desmond Bain, Jaron Jackson Jr., since being swept by OKC, the Thunder, in the first round of the 2025 playoffs.”
Ja Morant's Future
28:00 to 29:15
Discussing Ja Morant's potential pay and challenges ahead.
“His edge has got to be available, and he got to be ready to play, period, point blank.”
Ja Morant's Future
29:57 to 30:39
Discussing Ja Morant's potential pay and challenges ahead.
“Don't take if allergic to it, or if you or someone in your family had medullary thyroid cancer, or if you've had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2.”
Ja Morant's Future
30:46 to 32:26
Discussing Ja Morant's potential pay and challenges ahead.
“Before you ask, they didn't ask for a credit card, credit check, don't worry.”
Healthcare Innovations
32:33 to 33:23
Exploring the role of Amazon Health AI in virtual care.
“because every new season is an opportunity to take the next step forward.”
Giannis Trade Discussions
33:23 to 42:01
Analyzing potential trades involving Giannis Antetokounmpo.
“Miami, Yannis traded in Miami for that package?”
Rumors and Trade Speculation
42:01 to 43:19
Discussion about trade rumors involving NBA players and teams.
“But it seems to me they want draft capital.”
Media Reactions and Player Statements
43:20 to 45:30
Analyzing player comments and media reactions regarding team dynamics.
“someone other than the bucks yeah i'd be damn if they didn't get mad at us the media y 'all keep bringing it up.”
Understanding Sources and Information
45:31 to 49:10
Insights on how sports news is gathered and perceived by the public.
“But if Deshaun Watson is healthy, he's going to be the starter, whether you like it or not, because of the money.”
The Double Standard in Sports Reporting
49:11 to 50:48
Discussing the unfair treatment of their analysis compared to established journalists.
“That's all you're going to do, tell me I don't know what I'm talking about.”
Understanding Sources and Information
52:02 to 53:27
Insights on how sports news is gathered and perceived by the public.
“Are you looking for support in your weight management journey?”
Understanding Sources and Information
53:35 to 55:14
Insights on how sports news is gathered and perceived by the public.
“Before you ask, they didn't ask for a credit card, credit check, don't worry.”
Victor Wembanyama's Contract Details
55:19 to 56:00
Breaking down Victor Wembanyama's rookie scale extension and salary structure.
“Because every new season is an opportunity to take the next step forward.”
Victor Wembanyama's Contract Decisions
56:00 to 57:26
Explore why Victor Wembanyama chose a max contract over a supermax deal.
“Amazon Health AI gets you the right care fast.”
The Burden of Player Sacrifices
57:26 to 1:02:08
Discuss the implications of players taking pay cuts to keep teams competitive.
“NBA PPA is preparing to fight back hard against the second apron, especially now that the news of Wimby passing up the Supermax to help the Spurs try to keep the roster together long term.”
Challenges of Team Management in the NBA
1:02:08 to 1:10:01
Learn about the difficulties teams face when managing player salaries and contracts.
“You think they're going to give them guys a third contract, Joe?”
Financial Responsibility in Team Dynamics
1:10:01 to 1:16:31
Explore the financial responsibilities players and teams share in the NBA.
“How you going to get a mom house bigger than yours?”
Ja Morant's New Chapter
1:16:31 to 1:21:04
Discussion on Ja Morant's image and his transition after the trade.
“I mean, obviously I've done, you know, what I've done in the past, but it's been addressed and handled already.”
Ja Morant's New Chapter
1:21:42 to 1:24:26
Discussion on Ja Morant's image and his transition after the trade.
“Look, I ain't never thought about taking that tool with me on the road.”
Transcript
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3:49Shannon Sharpe:The Memphis Grizzlies are trading John Moran to the Portland Trail Blazers for Jeremy Grant and Chris Murray. John, 26, played only 79 games in the last three seasons because of off-court issues and injuries since his second consecutive All-Star appearance in 2023. He joined the Young Blazer team, fresh off of his first playoff appearance in 2021, headlined by Denny. Yeah, him. Abiyah. Joe, you like that. Is my mic out?
4:22Chad Johnson:No, I hear you.
4:24Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Do you like y 'all going to Portland? Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm going to owe Joe. So, you know, for me, when you think about it, no team carries four point guards. So you got Morant, Dame, Holiday, and Skul.
4:45Chad Johnson:I thought Skul Henderson showed a lot of growth and maturity in his game throughout the postseason, especially in that series against the Spurs. I know they only won one game, but hell, he played a pivotal role in winning that game, too, in San Antonio. Them first two games, he looked like you might have had something that's in Portland. And then after that, he was kind of, you know, non-existent. But I thought he showed flashes that, you know, you'll still continue to take chances on the young man because I think he got potential to be pretty damn good, honestly.
5:16Chad Johnson:But with bringing Ja over there, you got to be thinking that you're going to get rid of one of these guys at least. Because I'm saying, one, you're probably going to carry three because, hey,
5:29Shannon Sharpe:two going to start. And can Scoop play the point? We need some insurance. Holiday is your defender. We need some insurance.
5:35Chad Johnson:We need some insurance, Ocho, meaning maybe Scoop come off the bench, Scoop Henderson come off the bench. Maybe UDL Holiday because he probably has value and can go play for a championship contender team. You know, but, man, the biggest thing is y 'all going to have to learn how to play without that ball, Ocho. You got to. You think so? You're going to have to be. I mean, but Dame don't have no problem playing off the ball. I understand that. Dame don't. Dame is a great catch and shoot guy. He can play off the ball. Yeah. But I think they're going to take turns. But, hell, it's going to be a lot of times I want to see Jot hit that lane, go catch a lob.
6:15Chad Johnson:Hell, hey, hey, hey. I think he can play off the ball as well, meaning being cerebral as far as cutting to the basket. With his elite athleticism, bro, he just can't be a statue when Dame over there running pick and roll or something. You know, you got to be able to mix it up a little bit. You know, be able to cut in there, get you some layups, get you some floaters, catch a couple lives. Got to get that three-ball percentage up. You know, we can say what we want, but shooting 20-something percent from the damn three nine days as a point guard ain't going to cut it, bro. You know, you got to get in the lab.
6:47Chad Johnson:I'm talking about she'll be in there right now tonight. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, like last year. Yeah. Hey, Uncle Joe, I'm happy he's gone. Obviously, you know, I was wanting him down here in Miami. I think as far as leaving Memphis and having a reset, a mental reset, and having a change of scenery, obviously I don't think Miami would have been the right place for Ja, even with the infrastructure that the Heat have as far as, you know, discipline and being able to watch over their players and those inside that organization always knowing where their players are at all times. I think Portland is a good place.
7:25It's a good place. It's not too fast. It's a good city. And for him to have a restart on this career. It ain't fast at all. Yeah. For him to have a restart on this career, I think he's in a good place, and he's around some good people. Obviously, Dane being in the game for a very long time, he can take up under his wing and show Young Bull the ropes on how to conduct himself with this fresh start that he's having. So, I'm excited for Ja. I'm excited to see what he does. He put up a post on his Instagrams about those that have counted him out. So I'm curious to see the bounce back.
8:04Chad Johnson:Yeah, me too.
8:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, hopefully he gets it. Look, if you was around me and I got in trouble, you can't go to Portland.
8:11Chad Johnson:Hello.
8:13Shannon Sharpe:Hello. I'm going to keep it real with JoJo. Mm-hmm. At any point in time. Yeah. You damn sure ain't going with me. you the one that had the damn IG live on when I had the stick out. You definitely can't go.
8:28Chad Johnson:I remember that. You know what's hard, though, Uncle? No, no. Hey, Uncle, Joe, I know what you're going to say. It's very hard to let certain people in your entourage go because the first thing they start saying is, oh, you changed. Oh, you ain't the same. I did. You're supposed to. Hey, hold up. What we just talking about yesterday, assets and liabilities, bro. Come on, Joe. Come on, man. Come on. Come on, hey, hey, hey, hey. You got to understand, Ocho, the man done missed out. He already done missed out on down the 200-something million dollars. You know what I'm saying? You think I'm finna let?
9:03Chad Johnson:No. Boy, I'll probably go to Portland by myself.
9:08Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Ocho, now you just left Memphis. You're going to Portland. You mess right around. Guess where your next stop be? Sump to South Carolina where you're from. You got to realize these teams don't need you. Yeah. They're a billion-dollar entities. Yeah. They're a billion-dollar entity with five guys off the street.
9:32Chad Johnson:Hey, but look, I'll tell y 'all one thing. I'm happy for him. That black and red going to look nice on him. Them black and red jobs going to look good. He's still going to have top three, you know, five shoe out. Look, man, you get a whole nother chance, bro. You got to lock in, twin. You got to lock in and get to it. You got to show them boys what they missing, man. Hey, we been missing. Hey, look, he ain't got to shoot the gun, throw the grenades and all that. But I like to see him active. I like to see him going. You know what I mean? Yeah.
10:05Shannon Sharpe:All right, T. You too.
10:07Chad Johnson:Yeah, Pops. You got to get right, baby. Okay, T. You too. Got to get right. Got to get him right. Hey. Hey, you know what? The NBA basketball needs y 'all. they don't need him but basketball still need ja he agree that that that job that's having fun that job that's playing above the rim you know that that that job that's entertaining and polarizing that job that's putting no butts in the seats giving people a reason to come watch
10:37Shannon Sharpe:watch games we need that job back hey and when you look at it and he can be that but he needs to be that he needs to be off the court so that carries on the court. Court, yeah. Because his life, his world got chaotic off the court. Yeah. And he couldn't do two things at once. And it affected his play on the court. Yeah. Ain't nobody looking at Ja the last three years, even though he only played 79 games, and say that's the Ja they remember from four or five years ago.
11:09Chad Johnson:Right.
11:11Shannon Sharpe:Let's be all the way real. Ain't nobody having that discussion. That's why I was so, think about what he went for. At one point in time, Ja was, people thought about Ja like he was a top 10 player. Yeah, yeah.
11:24Chad Johnson:Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, he was a guy, man. He took those challenges playing against Kyrie and Dame. You know, playing against some of the top point guards back then. Steph Curry, you know, he always held his own. You know, I mean, but I think we all seen this coming because they got rid of all the veteran help, bro. You know, all the guys. Oh, you know where you're going.
11:44Shannon Sharpe:When they traded Desmond Bain and they traded Triple J, you know he was next.
11:48Chad Johnson:Yeah, and Brooks, you traded your dogs, bro.
11:52Shannon Sharpe:They let Brooks walk, and Brooks says, I'm happy to walk because y 'all told me I was the fourth best option. I could never show, yeah, I could play defense. But, hey, don't get upset when I shoot the ball one time and everybody else done shot it 15 times, and y 'all look at me, y 'all side-eyed me. Right. But y 'all got me guarding KD. Y 'all got me guarding Jason Tatum. Y 'all got me guarding LeBron. Y 'all got me chasing Steph damn Curry. But when I take one shot, y 'all looking all crazy. So it was a no-brainer for him to leave and go to Houston, somebody that valued a defensive player. But now he looking at everybody else.
12:27Shannon Sharpe:They're like, hold on. He shoot 25 times. He shoot 20 times. I shoot five times. Y 'all looking at me like I'm crazy.
12:34Chad Johnson:Hey, man. I just want to see the young man have different body language. Body language don't lie, Ocho. You know, you can tell when a guy out there really enjoying himself, having fun, he loving the game. You know, maybe he is going through something that's off the court. But, hell, once you get on the court, bro, all that's supposed to, you know what I mean? Like, you're supposed to be able to lock in to where you just, you block out all that for the next two hours and you tap, you know what I mean? So I just want to see him get back to having fun, man, because you're right, Ocho. He is great for the game.
13:07Chad Johnson:The game needs him. And, listen, you get a chance to play with another elite guard, Him and Dame, yeah, they may be a little small back there, but, man, you got to switch your game up now because, yep, you're going to get to handle the rock. You're going to get to run, pick, and roll. You're going to be able to play, mate. But at the same time, you got to be able to play off the ball. And defensively, because of that long, wiry frame that he has, I think he can be a solid defender, bro. He just has to want to. You know what I mean? He got to be able to affect the game more than just, like, giving you points.
13:38Chad Johnson:Do you feel me? like he one of them guys who probably going to have to change his game a little bit. Yeah.
13:44Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, Joe. Yeah. Defense is all about wanting to. I see when they put a lot on the guy's plate. When you ask a guy to do a ton, it's hard for him to exert that kind of effort offensively and defensively. Run the offense. Go give us 25 points a night. Rebound and facilitate. You're asking a guy to do a – that's why you have other guys. You see Shea? They say, Shea, we need you to score. Hey, you give us five, six rebounds, we'll take it. You give us three, four, five assists, we'll take that too. But I tell you what, Lou Dort, Chet, Wallace, Caruso, Joe, y 'all better defend at any level.
14:25Chad Johnson:Yeah.
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14:27Shannon Sharpe:You understand. You got roles. What business, if you go look at any business, they got a CEO, They got a president, a VP, a COO, a CFO. You got a manager. You got a regional manager. You got a branch manager. You got cashiers. You got guards. Everybody got a role. The problem that you run into when somebody is a branch manager thinking he's a regional manager and they're thinking he's a CFO or the COO, the VP, the president. Whoa, whoa, no, no, no, no. We got those spots to feel, Joe. don't spot the field but this is he gets a new lease old life hey that's behind him move on I don't believe they wanted I don't believe they wanted to get rid of John but he became more problem they were had he been healthy give me your 30 a night Joe yeah okay we can put up with something what is it when production is here tolerance is up here production can't be here and tolerance is up here that ain't gonna work I don't give a damn who you are oh yeah you're gonna be good the production didn't match the tolerance that he was asking from him and we understand that it's not no they didn't dislike Ja and everything and they're just like, bro, it's always something with you.
16:05Shannon Sharpe:First of all, you're doing this crazy stuff off the court, and you hurt. And you hurt. You hear the stories about James Harden. Man, James Harden, hey, Vegas, he's a part. James Harden getting you 35 a night. James Harden getting you 50-point triple doubles. You see the difference? Yeah. LT Well you go out there and win three defense player of the year And you win MVP As a defensive player Yeah you can sleep in the meetings Hey you were crazy Hey man Giant Stadium lit up I wonder what's going on Damn we got a game
16:55Shannon Sharpe:Let LT tell y 'all the story how he running late for the plane. He pull up the valet, flip the guy the keys, hey, pick me up Sunday night at such and such a time.
17:08Man, LT got some stories for you, man. Hey, Bill got the best stories on LT, man. Yes, because Bill was
17:17Shannon Sharpe:in D.C., Ocho. You're right. Go ahead. Oh, man. As he told some of those stories, man, just, you know, in private settings. I don't know if it's in public settings, but LT was a wild joke. Oh, man. Hey, you go to the hall and you get LT, because he normally him and Ricky Jack. Him and Ricky Jack are really, really cool. And man, they get to tell the stories. Oh, man. I'm like, Lord have mercy, LT.
17:48Shannon Sharpe:Because as a matter of fact, Ricky Jack and LT came out the same year. All of them came out in the same in 81 draft LT Singletary Ronnie lot Dennis Smith Ken easily all of them came out in the same all the same guy came out the same came out in that 81 draft oh Joe Joe so he and Ricky Jack are really really cool but bad that Joker there well he was a hit boy look here I I hate, I wish LT could have played in this era. Yeah. And so people could see how, because when you, we think, you see Aaron Donald, you see JJ Watt, you see Miles Garrett. He's all of them. Wrapped in one. In one. But he wouldn't have been able to play.
18:34He would have been suspended.
18:38Hey, Joe, boy, he ain't, man, he ain't play.
18:41Chad Johnson:Yeah. Protect who? Protect what quarterback? Yeah. Okay. Nah.
18:46Shannon Sharpe:Hey, the LT chop. LT was taking the ball. He's the only player. He's the most, when you talk about, he's the only player that made two position famous. He made the left tackle famous, and he made the edge famous because you had to get somebody to block him, and you had to find somebody like him. So the Micah Parsons, the T.J. Watts, the Vaughn Millers, the DeMarcus Wears, all those guys, he did that. And so all these left tackles that you see,
19:20Chad Johnson:the Big Trent Williams and the Garrett Zimmermans
19:22Shannon Sharpe:and all those guys, he did that. He made two positions famous. And look how they get paid. Who made the most money on the offensive line? Left tackle. Who made the most money on the defensive line? The edge rusher. The edge rusher, yeah. Boy, hey, look here. I can make a... He's the greatest defensive player. I can make a case that he's the greatest player. He ain't getting out of the three. So whoever you think, if you like Tom, Jerry, and LT, for me, those are the three. Now, I can make a compelling case for all of them being number one. But when it comes to defensive players, not him. Good deal.
20:11Shannon Sharpe:So that would be the equivalent of somebody coming in. They win defensive rookie of the year and defensive player of the year. In the same draft. In the same year. Remember now, the sack didn't become an official stat until 1982. LT came in and won. So prior to that, they really didn't keep sacks as a stat.
20:40Shannon Sharpe:That ain't none of my business, though. Portland. So, Joe has Portland. They got Ja, Dame Lillard, Holiday, Scoot Henderson, and my cuz, Shaden Sharp.
20:51Chad Johnson:Look, hey, hey, look. They ain't really, if you really think about it, they really had to give up nothing. I like Jeremy Grant. Don't get me wrong. You know, and I like the Chris Murray kid who's a shooter. But you ain't really have to really tap into too much of your youth, meaning like Scoot, Shaden Sharp, who still has the potential to be.
21:10Shannon Sharpe:I don't know why they didn't play him, though, Joe. We need to talk about that a little later.
21:13Chad Johnson:I think that Danny, the Danny kid, Uncle Ocho, who was an all-star this past year, I think he surprised a lot of damn people if you want me to keep it 100. So they got some good problems, I'll probably say, over there in Portland. But, hey, just like Minnesota, I think Portland will be fun to watch. You know, obviously making the eighth seed, I don't, I mean, I don't know how good this is going to make them. You know, you lose a guy like Jeremy Grant, man. He's a prototypical guy who you were on your team. You know, I think he could be a good piece, you know, for a good championship contender team.
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23:00Shannon Sharpe:Tigers era. V.J. Singh was really good. Phil Mickelson is a really good golfer. Ernie Ailes is a really good golfer. They just happen to be playing when Tiger played. Hey, I got a question though. Yes. You said outside of Steph Curry, the greatest shooter is Damon Lillard. So where do we put Clay in that conversation? He ain't better than Dame. Huh? Not to me. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Not to me. I'm taking Dame Lillard because I think the thing is because the way he can shoot off the dribble and the distance in which he can shoot it. Right, okay, I see what you're saying. Only Steph Curry can rival the distance.
23:40Shannon Sharpe:Did you see the shot he hit on? I mean, he's hitting buzzer beaters against Houston, hit a buzzer beater against OKC. OKC?
23:47Chad Johnson:Yeah. I know. And to shoot the ball from where he shot. Hey, hey, hey, real talk, Ocho. He's like one of my favorite guys to watch, bro. I ain't gonna lie. Like, when it comes to guards, like, you know, he take his matchup serious. He take it personal. He compete at the highest level. But like I'm saying, you know, he shoots 20. I mean, he at least another 7 to 10 feet behind the three. You know, it's hard to guard guys like that. Listen, it ain't many guys who are going to pull up that deep. You got to be practicing that, Uncle Ocho. That man practiced those shots. For sure. You know what I mean?
24:20Chad Johnson:To be able to shoot them with confidence in the game, them long, that one step, two steps across half court, and you letting it go. Come on, bro.
24:29Shannon Sharpe:only two guys in the history of the game that you've had to pick up at half court Steph Curry and Dame Lillard you let them see space if you want to from 30 feet do you remember that Saturday night game when Steph pulled up they were down the whole night and he pulled up against the OKC and he started yeah hey remember Dame and Russ was going back yeah yeah them used to be my favorite one whatever game whatever shot he hit and he had that, you did that bye-bye. Yeah, that was the one, yeah. Over PG. I remember that.
25:03Chad Johnson:Yeah, over Paul George, Paul George. Because look, even watching the game, I'm like, damn, man, it's three seconds, that man ain't even making no move yet. So if I was guarding him, I would have been like Paul George too. I'm like, man, we 40 feet out the damn week.
25:16Shannon Sharpe:Thank you. You mean to tell me? I ain't finna do nothing crazy because I know he got handles and can get by me. Hey, you want to sit down here and bulljive around? I'm going to let you.
25:24Chad Johnson:Three seconds on the clock, Ocho. You 40 feet from the basket. I'm like, hell, I'm going to stand there too because I don't think you see the damn clock. And then, man, sidestep you 40 feet out, cash money. Come on, bro. Hey. You take a lot of confidence. You do, bro.
25:44Shannon Sharpe:Working confidence. Hey, I mean, that Joker, man, hey, you remember that? There was a couple of games, like, man, he was going crazy, like in the bubble. He dropped 50-something on the Nuggets. I mean, he got a 70-point game. I think he got that against New York.
26:01Chad Johnson:Hold on. You know what made him cold-blooded to me? Because I remember when Kobe passed away, and the first game the Lakers played, the tribute game, was against Portland in L.A., Ocho. That man came in L.A. and showed his ass. Do you hear me? Man, he put on that. He got a 40-piece on him. I said, they ain't got to be the most disrespectful mofo I know. You know what I'm saying? But when you think about it, on Kobe's night, he would want it no other way. You know what I mean? Bro, he put on a performance, bro. I think he had like 40-something. But he cut a rug on them boys at night. Yeah.
26:40Shannon Sharpe:He did. Meanwhile, Memphis has traded all three of its former franchise cornerstones, John Morant, Desmond Bain, Jaron Jackson Jr., since being swept by OKC, the Thunder, in the first round of the 2025 playoffs. I think it was with the game three. Yeah, they was up. They had a 20-something point lead and jogged his ankle, and they came all the way down, and we know they weren't going to win. It looked like they might have been able to win that game. I don't think, for me, they were going to win that series, but they would have won that game. And then once that – but, you know, hey, they started disassembling it piece by piece.
27:16Shannon Sharpe:You see Jasmine Bain go to Orlando. You see them send Triple J off to Utah, accumulating picks. They probably got, what, seven first-round picks now?
27:25Chad Johnson:Yeah, but I don't think they really initially really wanted to get rid of Ja, I think, but with the injury starting to pile up on him, Ojo, you know, why he still has some pretty good value, maybe we need to go on and get off, or maybe he need a fresh start.
27:44Shannon Sharpe:And he got two years left on that deal. What normally happens with two years left on the deal, Joe? Yeah. They should do it. redo it what that means so he got two years of 87 million so that's 43 and a half he 26 he ain't looking to go under 47 and a half 43 and a half he looking to go above that right so that means you're going to have to pay what 50, 55, maybe 60 he's like nah I can't in good conscience do that given your injury history and your behavior off the court
28:19Chad Johnson:And this is why I say this is a great refreshing start for him because he still can get to that bag on that Ocho. His edge has got to be available, and he got to be ready to play, period, point blank. You come out and show your butt this year, man, hey, next summer, we'll be talking about Jodden got, you know, X, Y, Z. You got the bag. Yes, sir. Revitalize his career. That damn important. 16 years ago, I started working as a CNA in the hospital. I loved it. On the day I decided to enroll in the nursing program at Rasmussen University, it was afternoon, my 35th birthday. I was hanging out with a friend, and they just questioned me what I was going to do with this next chapter of my life.
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33:23Shannon Sharpe:Miami, Yannis traded in Miami for that package?
33:33Three personal picks. One pick, block, and a center number. Wow. What'd I told you? Man, we got to get BP back on here. I can't wait till y 'all say, I can't wait till y 'all say.
33:46Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Ojo, we got to get BP back on here.
33:53Shannon Sharpe:Giannis, so Chad, did you hear that? Hey, I want y 'all to say. Giannis is traded to the Miami Heat. Giannis and Bobby Porters goes to the Heat. Tyler Hero, Kale Ware, Jaime Harkas, three first-round picks, a pick swap, and a second-round pick goes to Milwaukee. Hold on. Oh, so Bobby came to Miami, too? Yeah. That's why I said we got to get BP back on here, man. I told him. Remember what Bobby said about when I told him Giannis was coming here? Yeah. And little did he know he was a part of it. Huh? Okay. Block Shove, the Milwaukee Bucks are trading franchise icon Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bobby Portis to the Miami Heat.
34:33Shannon Sharpe:Tyler Hero, Kale Ware, Jaime Jaquez. I can't even pronounce this other guy's name, so I'm not going to butcher it. Three first-round picks, including number 13, one pick swap, and a second-rounder. Sources tell ESPN.
34:59Shannon Sharpe:Well, there you go.
35:16Shannon Sharpe:Somebody says Mitchell Robinson going to the Bulls. Also, they are going to draft Acuff, Trey Getty. We should make the playoffs. This is why, this we can buy what we want and compete fast. But you just, I guess, I mean, you just traded for Claxton.
35:37Hey, Unc. Yeah. I'm still looking to see where that's at.
35:41Shannon Sharpe:What is it, Giannis? Yeah. Shams. Shams reported it 58 seconds ago. Giannis going to like that, that new deal. Hey, note the taxes. Nice weather. Hey, he get to meet me? Yeah, he get to meet you. So now, okay, we got one big domino fall. Okay, where does Ja go? Hey, Unc, didn't I tell you I say Pat got one more thing up his sleeve? He ain't got nothing to offer. You going to say trade him bam? No. Okay, D. Hey, but I just, it still some up his sleeve. Now give him time.
36:29Wow.
36:31Shannon Sharpe:Giannis is gone.
36:39Shannon Sharpe:Get the shyster.
36:44Shannon Sharpe:Somebody say jaw to Orlando, Ocho. Can't believe Jalen Brown's finals MVP got drafted before Tatum. top three pick in 2016, get traded over blowing a 3-1 lead or over that podcast. Shh, cold world. Look, I think the thing, considering there's so much smoke, is it a situation, Ocho, where you almost damn near like have to trade JB now? Or you cool bringing him back? Because he already know how y 'all feel about him. Because every time a trade scenario comes up with the Celtics. His name? Well, he's the only person to value it. a value to talk about. Who else are we going to talk about trading? We ain't going to talk about nobody else.
37:26But if I was, I mean, they're not going to let him go. They understand how important he is. And obviously, even with JT being a year removed from that Achilles tear, him still having, you know, he was efficient, he was good during his time. You don't want him to have to leave that team again by himself. No. No, they're not letting him go nowhere. So you think he stays at least one more year? Yeah, absolutely. At least one more. At least one more.
37:56Shannon Sharpe:Who said that? That's what they want? I don't know. I don't see that. LeBron and Pat, after that man done took his cookies. Oh, back to... Back to... Oh, I like that. I like that. I bet you do. LeBron back to Miami? I bet you do. With Bobby P and Giannis? Hold on, let me text LeBron. Hold on, hold on. Let me text LeBron. That man busy. He said he ain't fooling with you.
38:38Shannon Sharpe:I need to invite Rich Paul on here one night. Yeah, tell him, boy. Come on.
38:47Shannon Sharpe:No. Who the point guard? I mean, who's the point? I mean, yeah, Giannis and Bam, okay. You got two guys that can protect the paint. Right. But who's the point guard? LeBron. So the question is, what y 'all do? Are y 'all bringing back Norman Powell? Yes.
39:14Hey, Pat got something up his sleeve. I don't want to disclose any more information. You know, I've already done more than I should. And once again, I am right, as I am 98 % of the time. I'm going to just leave it at that. Mickey Harrison and Pat Riley have some up their sleeve, and we're going to see if it works.
39:33Shannon Sharpe:According to Shams, Giannis is expected to be traded before the start of the NBA draft Tuesday, with the Celtics and Heat emerging as finalists to land the Bucs superstar. You don't say. The Bucs are not expected to include a third team in the Giannis trade, according to a source, and are focused solely on negotiating with the Celtics and the Heat. Sources told Shams that if traded the two-mear walking for Giannis, Brown would remain with the Bucs. Ocho, the moment of truth, if you're a betting man, Giannis ends up in Miami, or does he end up in Boston? If you're a betting man, I done told y 'all the past six months where he was going.
40:10I don't know how long I've been saying it. I ain't going to tell you who my source is, but again, everything I say, listen, I might tell a joke or two, but I ain't going to lie to you. Right. I said we was going a long time ago. You know, y 'all laughed it off. Y 'all ain't believe me. But I told you he's down here looking for houses. Boom. Now it comes down to it. And listen, Giannis, Tatum, and Jalen Brown, that ain't happening. We know that's not happening. No. He going to be in Miami. You know, Pat Riley got something else on his sleeve. Obviously, when Giannis get here, he got one more move he's trying to make.
40:45We'll see if that comes into fruition. So we can compete in the East. We don't want to be decoration. We want to be playing, you know, not in the playing, but being a seed.
40:58Shannon Sharpe:Clearly, Boston have the most assets. You get Tyler Hero. You get Jaime Hawkins. You get Kale Ware. And if I'm not mistaken, if I was reading it correctly, you get three first-round picks and you get some pick swaps. Yes, sir. Now, on the flip side, you get Jalen Brown. you get two late round draft picks, two late first round draft picks. I don't know the guy. You can put it up here. Okay. The Miami Heat would send Tyler Hero, Jaime Heikens, Kel Ware, Nicola Hobbit, pick 13, two future first round picks. Boston would send Jalen Brown, Hugo Gonzalez, pick 27, and a future first round pick. Now, the question is, do you trust your scouting department?
41:46Shannon Sharpe:Do you trust your drafting department? Because you got a team that can go play right now with Hero, Hawkeyes, Ware, Havik, considering what you still have there. Jalen Brown is a number one option. He's going to sell tickets. But it seems to me they want draft capital. Remember, they bought Dame Lillard out of his deal. they still owe him like a hundred something million. Damn. So but if you give up all that if you the heat Bam and Giannis ain't winning no championship. They got one more trick up they sleeve huh? I'm gonna see if it work. I sure hope so. Because this happens every time Ocho is that you give up all your assets.
42:37Yes, sir.
42:38Shannon Sharpe:And when the guy get there, the covet is bare. That's what happened. See, just imagine if the Warriors had to trade for Kevin Durant. Now you can't keep all those pieces because he's a free agent and you didn't have to give up anything. Anything, yeah. Made it easy. Made it easy.
43:03Shannon Sharpe:When they mad at us, you see the chat, they mad at us. y 'all keep it's always it's always us when y 'all just says he could see himself playing for someone other than milwaukee out of his own mouth that's what he said i didn't say that joe didn't say that you didn't say that the media didn't say that y 'all just said he could see himself playing for someone other than the bucks yeah i'd be damn if they didn't get mad at us the media y 'all keep bringing it up. Y 'all keep bringing it up. It should have gave you pause for cause when he didn't sign the extension.
43:44Shannon Sharpe:In year five, he didn't mention nothing about playing somebody else. In year eight, he didn't mention about playing somewhere else. In year ten, now all of a sudden he mentions the possibility of playing elsewhere. And he didn't sign the extension that would have kept him there. They think about their heart. They think about their heart, not think about their mind. That's all. No, don't be mad. Ain't no messy. No, y 'all messy. Y 'all get mad at us. All we do is report. How do we have something to report on if there's nothing? Y 'all get mad every time. Ocho and I told you something was brewing in Philly.
44:22Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all got mad. How you know? You ain't in the locker room. All you doing is tabloid. Y 'all really be thinking people nightly? I'm not saying they don't, but 98 % of the time, the sources, the sources is the head coach, the general manager, the owner, the player personnel, the scouting department. That's the source. And guess what? And a sprinkling of players in there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Shoot. I've been getting cussed out all day on Twitter. Talk about the Cleveland Browns and Deshaun Watson. You know, they cussing me out. I don't know what I'm talking about. oh, is Jerry Judy your source? I say, hey, Unc, this had nothing to do with Jerry Judy.
45:07You talk about, oh, we took a picture a few days ago, and all of a sudden now I'm saying what I'm saying. No. But one, Jerry Judy's from Miami. Right. We grew up together. I'm just a little bit older. I mean, you would hope people understand that. But no, I'm using common sense and logic. The money's going to play. There's nothing wrong with Shadour. I love Shadour. I've said it countless times. He played well. He played well last year. He has some ups and downs. He has some growing pains. Yes. But if Deshaun Watson is healthy, he's going to be the starter, whether you like it or not, because of the money.
45:41Yep. It's common sense if you understand the game. That's it. That's not a source. That's me having common sense in how the game goes. So in other words, they mad at the messengers.
45:54Shannon Sharpe:Because when Adam Schefter say that, y 'all don't say Adam Schefter being messy. When Shams say that, y 'all don't say Shams being messy. Right. When Woj used to break story after story after story after story, y 'all didn't say Woj making it up. So why Ocho and I got to be making it up? And y 'all come to the conclusion, well, Jerry, you took a picture. Why does it matter how we got our information? We telling you something you didn't know. And then you turn around and say, oh, wait, we all knew that. No, you didn't. Because you're arguing me and Ocho down. But y 'all knew it now. But I'm just saying, why is it Woj?
46:33Shannon Sharpe:Why is it Jay Glazier? Why is it Shams? Why is it all those other people that give y 'all inside information that they got from sources? Why aren't they messy? I've never heard, and I follow Schefter. I've known Schefter longer than anybody. Anybody that is being, Schefter and I used to go to dinner. His mom and dad used to go to come to town. we would go to an Italian restaurant called Carmine's. Ask him.
47:05Shannon Sharpe:He got to Denver the same time I got to Denver. I've looked up on his comments. Not one time have y 'all ever said the man was messy. I look up on Deshaun's comments. Never you say he's messy. I look up on Deshaun's. So I just need y 'all to tell me why when we give you information from a player's standpoint and we can see things that you can't, We can understand things that you can't. Why is Ocho and Unk being messy? Just answer me that. Go ahead, chat. Take off.
47:37Shannon Sharpe:Nah, ain't no crash out. I'm asking y 'all a simple question. Don't don't crash out. Answer the question. Hey. No, they got to. No, I don't want to relax. I'm fine. I've been asleep all day. You see what they do, Ocho? Instead of answering the question, crash out. Relax. No. Tell me why Ocho and I are messy. Adam Schefter report the same thing. Adam Schefter said things were going on in the locker room. When Ocho and I tried to tell you, you just being messy. Y 'all will never say Adam Schefter starting anything. Y 'all never say Sean starting anything.
48:19Nobody listen to me because I play so much. I'm writing 98 % of the time. I'm writing 98 % of the time anytime I say something.
48:32Shannon Sharpe:You know what, Ocho? I don't say anything because if I were to say stuff, y 'all gonna try to pinpoint who I got it from. So to keep everybody safe, I don't say nothing. I just let it play out.
48:52Shannon Sharpe:Let it play out. Y 'all find out in time. It's like when the levee bust. Man, why didn't you tell me it's going to flood? Y 'all going to find out sooner or later. Yeah. I know a lot. That ain't my job. I'm going to let it play out because all you're going to do is tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Talking about. That's all you're going to do, tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. We've been talking. I was on this OJ, AJ Brown since October. and I say the reason why you don't do that I say because you'll have a game if you're not careful and when they come to you Ocho and you don't make no plays they're going to let you have it and I'll be damned the Rams game the playoffs Ocho it came full it came full circle yes sir there's a lot of things I see y 'all forget that a lot of these coaches a lot of these general managers I know them you ain't get it from me okay call me what you want to but just call me correct say what you want just say I'm correct why is it so hard for people to give people credit especially our people y 'all are getting Adam Schefter y 'all get Adam Schefter credit like it's nothing me and Ocho just a poor hustler trying to grow a channel we can't get no credit you know he got that big that big entity behind him no no no no damn the entity Ocho we've been telling look here we played the game yes sir we telling you what we see we telling you the interactions that's taking place having been a receiver having been a tight end having dealt with the quarterback tell you something all the years experience that we got between us?
50:46Shannon Sharpe:We got 50 years of playing football. Organized football. But now we don't know what we talking about.
51:00Shannon Sharpe:So, I'm crashing the end. Guess what? Y 'all listen to me crash out.
51:06Shannon Sharpe:I love it. All the damn y 'all call it. Y 'all still. I say, well, damn. Me and Ocho can say something. Yeah, this show did. Hold on, man. Ocho said that.
51:24Shannon Sharpe:I said, what's that? Nah, we don't get it. You ain't got it yet. Nope, nope. Now you get it. Now you, damn.
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56:11Shannon Sharpe:Victor Wimby-Yama signs a five-year,$252 million max rookie scale extension. Wimby decided to take the 25 % max instead of the 30 % super max. that with escalators would have been$303 million. So are they going to see that on the screen, Ash? So his salary is$27 ,000, is$43 ,310 ,000. It could have been a tick below$52 million. And then he goes to$46 ,770, and it could have been$56 ,130 ,000. and 30. And then he goes to 50 million, 240 and it's a tick under 60.3 million. In 30, 31, it goes 53.7 to 64.45. So basically he took a 51 million dollar, 50, 51 million dollar cut to state. Spurs chairman Peter J.
57:06Shannon Sharpe:Holt, CEO R.C. Buford and Brian Wright and Coach Mitch Johnson travel to Paris to meet him and spend time with Victor and his family and his reps Friday. Wimby Yama essentially locked to earn a 300 Supermax if he played 65 games next year, but opted to take significant left sacrifice at a flashpoint for the Spurs to rise. NBA PPA is preparing to fight back hard against the second apron, especially now that the news of Wimby passing up the Supermax to help the Spurs try to keep the roster together long term. The CBA should not be put on the player in position where he has to carry the burden in order to keep a team together.
57:45Shannon Sharpe:A system does that. We have a problem. I agree. Don't put that on us. Don't put that on us on the players. They always do that. And I knew this was going to come because we talked about it with Jalen Brunson. Yeah. We talked with him. This is what teams are going to expect from their players. Nah, bro. Yeah.
58:07Chad Johnson:Yeah. Everybody's not going to do that, though, especially teams that are not in a position, like the Spurs are. The Spurs are in a perfect position where if you do take a discount, there's a good chance that we can get the finals. But you know how... Players come up, you know, they are eligible for Supermax. They ain't taking no discount. We're very far. You know how they're going to paint the picture, though, Ojo. You selfish? You know how they're going to paint the picture. They're going to paint the picture just like that. But I think, in Wimby's case here, he's going to make so much money off the court here, He going to make up all that.
58:44Shannon Sharpe:Because guess what? I can still get this max contract and still get my money. Because guess what? I guarantee you them tickets ain't going to get no cheaper. I know. Even though Wemmy took a$50 million hit, you think they're going to lower or raise the ticket prices every single year moving forward, don't you, Joe? Concession. Do you think they're going to raise or lower the concession every single year moving forward, Joe? Let me ask you a question. NBC, Amazon Prime, ESPN. tell me which one they gave a discount because these players are taking a discount right you're right we're going to talk about this in a second Joe before you go you see what the Seattle Seahawks just went for Joe Ocho 9.6 he bought the team in 1997 for 194 million damn man that's crazy if I'm not mistaken I think it was 2023 Washington sold for 6 billion Three years later, an extra$3.6 billion.
59:50Now, I want to know, did they say, you know what?
59:54Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to give you a discount on this. I know we worth about$9.6, but I'm going to let you have it for$9. Shh. You see how they do? And fans going to eat it up. Fans don't know. So even if the team sacrifices money, you still going to pay full price. Your PSLs ain't going to go down. Your playoff tickets ain't going to price, ain't going to go down.
1:00:27You're right. But, hey, I'm not going to tell a player what he should or shouldn't do.
1:00:34Shannon Sharpe:That's your money. You want to give the team a discount? give your team a discount.
1:00:39Chad Johnson:Hey, listen, you got Cat about to get ready to come up. What Cat going to do? Cat said
1:00:48Shannon Sharpe:Cat said he'd be willing to do it. That's what he said. But I'm looking, I already got me a ring. I would just get ready to say that.
1:00:57Chad Johnson:But you did in New York. You beloved.
1:01:00Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to be beloved in New York, too. They're going to pay me all my money.
1:01:10Chad Johnson:Hey, but what about the squad, though? If we pay you all that money, we're going to get rid of two guys. We might have to let Bridges or OG or Hart or somebody go. We want to keep the band together, don't we? We want to run it back, don't we?
1:01:22Shannon Sharpe:They just gave OG five years for 206.
1:01:27Shannon Sharpe:Brunson at 28 comes up. He'll be eligible for a 400.
1:01:36Shannon Sharpe:I don't tell anybody how to live their life. If that's what you want to do, Cat, if that's what you want to do to keep this thing together, keep it together. But all I'm saying is the owner said he's not going into the second apron. So he ain't willing to sacrifice nothing. But he want the player to sacrifice.
1:01:51Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:01:53Shannon Sharpe:You see? Hey, y 'all hear me?
1:01:57Chad Johnson:People knocking on my door. they saying you're too loud yeah probably security but you gotta be able to you gotta be able to some way somehow help teams that do draft pretty well you know what I mean like it's gotta be something that can help them cause how do I get punished for drafting well and obviously I gotta pay all these guys but damn it's gotta be some type of stipulations to where it's gotta be something in our favor
1:02:26Shannon Sharpe:well it's gonna be what you call OKC going to be faced with this. Oh, yeah. You think they're going to give them guys a third contract, Joe? Give who a third contract? OKC with Shea and Chad and J-Dub. So you mean to tell me I'm going to have now, I'm going to have three guys making$300 million? Right. I got three guys there, I'm going to make it a billion. So out of them three, one of them got to go. Absolutely. And before you know it, they're going to whittle them down and both of them have to go. I believe Shea is still the only untouchable. Because think about it. Boston only had two guys making that super match money, and they say one of them had to go.
1:03:09Chad Johnson:Damn, so they going to mess around and get J-Dub up. Yeah.
1:03:17Shannon Sharpe:But here's the PA.
1:03:23Shannon Sharpe:This is what upsets me about player association, don't you? Y 'all agree? to this. You just did this deal. You agreed to it. You got seller's remorse now. You signed off on this because you were so hell bent on making sure teams don't become super teams that you gave this. And you knew the owners like, I ain't nowhere in hell. I'm paying for all this. But what it does, it punishes players that are in line to get super max contracts. Now teams get up off them. Yeah, that's basically what is happening. You signed this deal. Terry Crews, T. Crews, I've been knowing T. Crews. He played with my brother.
1:04:09Shannon Sharpe:So I've been knowing T. Crews 30 years. When I sat down with him, he said, sharing a lot of people in Hollywood, he said they nod yes, but they mean no.
1:04:22Yes, no.
1:04:24Shannon Sharpe:Joe, they just signed this deal, Joe. Yeah. So, unless the owners went back and put these stipulations in there after the fact, what are we complaining about, Ocho? What are we complaining about, Joe? Joe, this is your field. Tell me what we're complaining about. Because you got these$1 ,000,$1 ,500,$2 ,000 lawyers that can read better and can comprehend better than what you can. Tell me what was added. So with this second apron, did it just come in this year? Or was it in the CBA that you negotiated?
1:05:00Chad Johnson:I'm going to be honest with you, Uncle Ocho. I have no damn idea. I don't. But this second apron, I know it just started. You know what I mean? Because now you're having to break these teams up. But I don't know when it came into a play, whether it's been two or three years. But I'm just seeing the effects of it. Hold on.
1:05:22Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to tell you when it started.
1:05:42Shannon Sharpe:However, let's see. Say, NBA collective bargain agreement is set to expire at the end of the 29-30 season. However, the league and the NBA Players Association have an option to opt out of the agreement one year early by declaring their intention to do so by 2028. Well, clearly they're going to opt out of it. Yeah. Clearly they're about to opt out of it.
1:06:08Chad Johnson:Yeah, but it was put in place to stop them damn super teams.
1:06:12Shannon Sharpe:Yes.
1:06:13Chad Johnson:Yeah, so.
1:06:14Shannon Sharpe:Well, I think the thing is, Joe, and I get it. I get it. but the problem that you run into is that when I draft well and my players perform well, you also prevent me from being able to keep them.
1:06:26Chad Johnson:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think a team should be penalized for that. If you draft well and your teams do well or your players over-exceed expectations, man, you shouldn't be punished because you can't pay all of them. You know what I mean? Like, there has to be some type of stipulations in there to where, hell, if I draft you, we should be able to some way, somehow keep you, and it don't really kill our salary cap like that.
1:06:53Shannon Sharpe:The current agreement was ratified by the NBAPA membership in April of 2023. It took Feck July the 1st, 2023. So, Joe, Ocho, they signed off on this. They signed off on this.
1:07:15in what, this bargain agreement, what, 10 years, right?
1:07:19Shannon Sharpe:No, basically it's from 23, July of 23. It was certified, ratified in July of 2023. So, and it goes until 2030, but you can opt out. If you can opt, you can say, okay, I want to opt out. And so you opt out a year before it ends. And so in 28, it could be the final year of it. So in other words, everything that's in this contract, Joe, was in there in 23 when they signed it.
1:07:43Chad Johnson:Yeah.
1:07:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But you see what happens, Joe? You're looking at it like, if I get my max money, I don't care where I get it from. As long as I get my max money, whether I get it from OKC, whether I get it from Golden State, whether I get it from the Knicks, as long as I get$250, as long as I get$350, I don't care who give it to me until you get on a team to have success. You're like, hold on, wait a minute. We're not going to be able to stay together.
1:08:10Chad Johnson:Because there's no middle ground. There's no in-between. It's either you getting the max contract or, hell, you almost getting peanuts. You feel me? And that's kind of how it is. So, hey, man, they put them figures in front of them boys. Ain't no telling, man. I don't know.
1:08:28Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, we know firsthand. Because guys, like, everybody, it's the players, Joe. Because you know there's only a certain amount of people that's going to make the Supermax. Just like Ocho and I know there's only a certain amount of people that's going to get the$100 million, in the$200 million contracts in the NFL. It's those guys that there are more guys that's not going to make that than the guys that are. And those guys that are not, those are the ones that they're like, man, hey, bro, you already got$200 million in the bank. I'm year to year, bro. I'm signing. I'm playing.
1:09:00Chad Johnson:That's how it works. And that's how it's been, bro.
1:09:04Shannon Sharpe:So you got to basically say, look here, Ocho, I understand, bro, but I don't need to, hey, tell the wife, no expensive gifts. don't get no second home don't do X, Y, and Z I don't really try to tell y 'all how to do it but you can't have no baby mama because we about to have to shut this thing down for a year or two that's the last thing you want in order to get what we want
1:09:30it's hard to get everybody on that same page
1:09:32Shannon Sharpe:it absolutely is especially with NFL players because hey I got the flaws I got me about four, five. I got me a G-Wagon. I got me a Cullinan. I got me two plowsets. I got my mom 15 ,000, 20 ,000 square feet. No, get mom something that she can clean herself. Yeah. Get mom 3 ,000 square feet. She could. 20 ,000? 3 ,000. How you going to get a mom house bigger than yours? because you got to realize Ocho a lot of times you get mom these big houses you got to pay to keep it up hello you got to pay somebody to cut the grass you got to pay somebody to come in there and clean get mom something they can clean hey my sister can clean this right here pick up after yourself it ain't nobody but two of y 'all you and granny
1:10:30Chad Johnson:thanks thanks I'm with you on that one
1:10:37Shannon Sharpe:but hopefully like they come to some type of resolution guys where they can figure this thing out. And I, cause I agree, Joe, this burden should not be placed on the players. The players should not have to have the financial responsibility to say, we want to keep a team together. So what is the, what does the team do? Just sit back.
1:10:55Chad Johnson:I think, I think the teams, I think they kind of knew all along this was going to happen. Yeah. You was going to run into this problem. Look, they want all this money up front. They want these max dollars. But hell, at some point, some of these max players are going to have to start taking haircuts if they want to continue to play on great teams. These owners knew that. Okay, Ocho.
1:11:16Shannon Sharpe:But guess what? But guess what the owners never do? But they never give these TVs. They never give these partners. They don't give them a discount. They don't give these sponsors and advertisers discount. Because guess what the Super Bowl ad going to be this year? $8 million. 30 second spot, Joe. and they got 240 of them. Damn.
1:11:41Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. But they billionaires, huh? They ain't giving no damn. They ain't cutting that.
1:11:46Shannon Sharpe:That's my point. That's what Ocho and I, we were talking about it from the very beginning. How have billionaires convinced normal fans to turn on the millionaires, which are the players, and side with them? They sharks, man. They smart because they put it out there. You don't care about winning. You selfish. And then you take some of your best players. Because first of all, once Tom Brady did it and they won, the expectation is you see what Tom did. And fans start to believe, well, if you were like Tom Brady, Tom Brady was making more off the field than he was on the field. Tom Brady's wife at the time was doing$30 million a year.
1:12:30Shannon Sharpe:Hell, if my wife did$30 million a year and I'm doing$15,$20 a year, damn right I give you a$5 million haircut. But my wife ain't making that. As a matter of fact, she costing me money.
1:12:44Shannon Sharpe:You know your wife making money if you marry somebody and they make you sign a prenup.
1:12:49Chad Johnson:Oh, man. Oh, yeah. That mean you probably married into something.
1:12:59Shannon Sharpe:it's reported that Travis signed a prenup with Taylor she worked two allegedly she's worth two billion when you making millions you make 20 million a year plus off the field probably another 510 so you make 30 million a year and your wife said here slide you this piece of paper and you have your lawyer read it over what's that telling you they ain't very many situations like that
1:13:29Chad Johnson:they ain't very many situations like that hey you gonna feel no way though
1:13:34Shannon Sharpe:hell no I ain't feeling no way cause I tell people I tell my homeboys all the time they tell my shop I ain't got no money like you man I ain't got nothing I say good that way you leave with your nothing all of your nothing I don't want you to leave with 50 % of your nothing hey the funny thing about it I don't know the percentage or I don't know the stat chat. You guys can probably find it faster than I can. Think about the wealthiest women in the world, right? Wealthiest women in the world. And what percentage of that wealth come from divorce? A large chunk. Or inherited. Yeah, I'm saying outside of inheritance.
1:14:13Yeah, a large chunk, yeah, for sure. Most of it has come from divorce.
1:14:22Shannon Sharpe:so hopefully they can figure this thing out players figure it out it's a lot of money to be made now because if somebody paid if somebody paid you 300 million how much are you actually making them because they ain't turning they ain't turning a loss now they never turn a loss so if they if they were to pay you 300 million joe you bringing them half a bill you don't even know it especially if you got one of these guys from overseas you got a Wimby or you got a Luka why you think they're trying to get NFL teams over there Ocho they're trying to get two teams over there because you just saw what they went for right so now a new team coming into the NFL you can't come in less than 10 bill hold on they're trying to get it over where huh overseas they're trying to get two NFL teams overseas man that's a long flight obviously they got two teams over team you go over there and you stay you play both teams you stay for two weeks
1:15:26Shannon Sharpe:but at some point them teams had to come here for sure and then they'll stay two weeks three weeks and then they'll go back over there and stay two three weeks I like that idea that ain't bad but for 20 billion what you think the owner's saying And they chopped that up 30 ways. You said how many billions? 10 billion. Because you're not going to be able to get one for less than 10.
1:15:53Chad Johnson:Yeah.
1:15:57Shannon Sharpe:The Cincinnati Bengals value just increased. I think the Cincinnati, I think y 'all, and I ain't taking no shot at you. I think you guys are the least valuable team. But least valuable, least valuable now is 5 billion. Okay, okay, we rich. Yeah. Five billion.
1:16:22Shannon Sharpe:Ja Morant spoke for the first time about the perceived bad boy image since being traded to Portland. Let's take a listen to what Ja had to say. I mean, obviously I've done, you know, what I've done in the past, but it's been addressed and handled already. So I don't see why, you know, years later, that's still the topic when nothing happened since, you know. And I felt like if I was that guy, y 'all wouldn't be talking to me now. I wouldn't be here.
1:17:00Shannon Sharpe:I agree with what he said. He's like, look, bro, give me a chance. What I did there, I did there. Now I'm here. This is a new slate. I'm with a new team. if I run a file, you have the right to bring that up. Now, we done got it out of the way now, Ocho. Joe, we addressed it. Yeah. I don't need every time that we have a conversation, you talk about what I did in Memphis two years, three years ago.
1:17:27Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, but we know it's going to follow him, Uncle Ocho. I know he don't want to hit. I know he want to move on. I know he want to start over. He can have a new slate. But, hey, man, some of the images that's left in people's head, bro, they want to know your thought process, what you were thinking at the time. What he has to do is just stay focused, bro, and keep grinding. Yep. And that's it. Head down. Keep chopping wood, partner. But along with that too, Uncle Joe, obviously, chat, y 'all listening to me too, we have to understand what makes Jabber Moran special. You know, what makes him as exciting in the polarizing player that he was in Memphis.
1:18:04Not the off the court stuff. I'll talk about him on the court. still remaining, allowing him to be himself without losing his edge. You know, you can taper it back a little bit, but don't take away what makes him special. There's a certain if factor that he has, and there's a certain presence and aura that he brings and energy, you know, to a team. And we saw that with Memphis. So we don't want to take it all away from him.
1:18:29Shannon Sharpe:No, we just don't want – how about this here, Ocho? Just keep the guns off social media and keep the guns out of the building where you shouldn't have them. That's all we ask you, Joe. Hey, hold on. I got one more. Can he throw the grenade at least? No, we let the grenade go. Let the grenade go.
1:18:45Chad Johnson:Hey, listen. I like all the antics because, you know, for one, it lets me know he's enjoying the game and having fun. And it seems like he's lost his joy for the game, Uncle Ocho. And I could be wrong, but just by listening to him talk, like I want to see him get back enthused about playing the game. man, I want to see him get back to being that kid that we enjoy watching, bro, who was box office, star-studded every night, you know, putting on the show. That's what we want to see, man. Like, you know, body language don't lie. You know what I'm saying? So when I see you out there training, working out, playing, like I want to see that enthusiasm coming from him, bro.
1:19:26Chad Johnson:Like I just feel like the past couple years, because he's dealt with so many injuries and so many setbacks, you know that it took the love and joy and passion away from him even times he has played uncle ojo hell he's just been you know just kind of out there i want to see him get back to having fun man and you know what also you know not only a change of scenery it can be a good thing for you but it also be a wake-up call absolutely woke him up they moved it he's a franchise player I was just going to say that you're the French right player you're the face of Memphis over there and they had the nerve to move me
1:20:03Shannon Sharpe:and they didn't get a whole lot from you that lets you know Joe now the next move you know it's going to be because they got little or nothing for an all NBA player an all star player that's 25 26 years of age they basically had to give him away yeah
1:20:19Chad Johnson:yeah that ain't normal bro so hey hey hey he another guy you know we talk about JB who's going to be motivated I'm looking forward to Ja, you know, being motivated as well, bro, getting back to enjoying the game, man. I got to see it, bro. He got too much talent. He's phenomenal, man. Too much talent, Uncle Ocho. I got to see it, bro.
1:20:41Shannon Sharpe:But guys moved to a new spot for me. I know it's back there, but okay, change of scenery. Now, he go here cut up. Now, you just lost me. but I'm willing to give the man the benefit of the doubt that he's at a new scenery he has a change of scenery I believe hopefully he's learned his lesson and he's going to be a model citizen like I said just keep the guns off social media don't take them where you're not supposed to have them and you'll be fine I don't know what made the man put a firearm on social media Joe I still don't understand that
1:21:23Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, just...
1:21:25Shannon Sharpe:You don't be thinking, Joe. You don't.
1:21:27Chad Johnson:I mean, you get so caught in the moment, bro, from the times that it did happen to him when he was in the little strip joint and arrived with his partner. Like, you get so caught up in the moment, bro. I don't know, man. I don't know.
1:21:40Shannon Sharpe:Joe, I ain't never... Joe, we flew... Look, I ain't never thought about taking that tool with me on the road.
1:21:49Chad Johnson:I ain't either, I ain't gonna lie to you. And it used to be a lot easier back in the day, boy. You get that thing on there. I'm talking about when nobody know nothing.
1:21:57Shannon Sharpe:Nothing. Because we pulled right up, got off, ain't had to go through no metal detector. They just walked right up on the steps of the plane.
1:22:04Chad Johnson:Nothing. Nothing, bro. I'm talking about.
1:22:10Shannon Sharpe:And I definitely, I definitely ain't talking about. Barney Portis is telling us all the time, he says, son, if you got to take a weapon somewhere with you, you don't need to go there. Right. Right. you don't need to go there.
1:22:22Chad Johnson:He learned his lesson, man. He learned his lesson. I believe so. Yeah. I believe so. Because behind all that hell, he lost a lot of M's, boy. Even though he still has one of the hottest shoes out and the man ain't really played, it lets you know, bro, how iconic he is and what he means to the culture because these kids love him, bro. They do. They love him.
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