In short
“Best of NFL News Part 1” discussion focused on Browns quarterback struggles, rookie QB Sheduer Sanders getting a start, and Ja’Marr Chase’s one-game suspension; plus brief debate on other NFL news (Justin Fields benched by the Jets) and sports/media culture (continuity, betting/props, viewing windows).
Guests
The episode is hosted by “Ocho” and “Joe” (sports commentators). No other guest identities are provided in the transcript.
Guest backgrounds
Ocho and Joe are former pro athletes who share personal “first start” stories (Ocho mentions playing in the NFL; Joe references basketball/rookie experiences and later football career anecdotes). They speak as football analysts and emphasize quarterback development and offensive continuity.
Key claims
- Browns have never had a QB win their first NFL start in Cleveland since 1999 (0-17).
- Browns’ lack of quarterback/coach/OC continuity is a major reason for turmoil.
- Sheduer Sanders’ start vs the Raiders is a chance to change the narrative; he must protect the ball, avoid sacks, and stay ahead of the sticks.
- Ja’Marr Chase’s suspension stems from a spitting incident; they argue he should apologize/change behavior and that it shouldn’t define him.
Notable examples
- Browns QB list since 1999 (Tim Couch through Dylan Gabriel).
- Chase’s suspension cost estimate: $448,333 game check + $58,824 active roster bonus; appeal planned.
- Betting/prop example: wanting to see specific stat lines (e.g., “CD six catches,” “Chase yards”).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBrowns' Quarterback History
0:30 to 0:58
Discussion on the Browns' struggles with starting quarterbacks since 1999.
“You're locked into a lot of things you can't change.”
Browns' Quarterback History
2:56 to 4:08
Discussion on the Browns' struggles with starting quarterbacks since 1999.
“Hello, it's your favorite sports thunk here.”
Organizational Challenges
4:08 to 5:30
Exploration of the reasons behind the Browns' quarterback issues.
“Maybe they just have bad luck in general.”
Shadour's First Start
5:30 to 6:42
Expectations and strategies for Shadour Sanders's upcoming start.
“Also, and you know what else too, Joe and Unc?”
Game Preparation Insights
6:42 to 9:50
Insights on game preparation and the importance of chemistry in football.
“You have a chance to make history and change the narrative, you know?”
Looking Ahead to the Game
9:50 to 12:18
Final thoughts on Shadour's performance expectations and game strategy.
“I mean, everybody was getting in on action.”
Quarterback Confidence and Game Preparation
14:01 to 20:56
Discussion on the importance of balance in play calling and building confidence in young quarterbacks.
“For one, that's getting the ball down the goddamn field.”
First Game Experiences
20:56 to 21:25
Hosts share personal anecdotes about their first starts in competitive sports.
“You're locked into a lot of things you can't change.”
First Game Experiences
21:28 to 22:29
Hosts share personal anecdotes about their first starts in competitive sports.
“This is Malcolm Glabal from Smart Talks with IBM.”
Building Confidence Through Performance
23:08 to 28:00
Discussion on how performing well builds confidence for athletes and the importance of preparation.
“And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane.”
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Nostalgia for Old Cell Phones
28:00 to 31:00
The hosts reminisce about the early days of mobile phones and their quirks.
“Now, they had the one that you had the pouch.”
Upcoming NFL Games Discussion
31:00 to 32:45
The hosts discuss which upcoming NFL game might attract the most viewers.
“Man, there's a lot of people looking forward to seeing Shadou play.”
The Rise in NFL Franchise Values
32:45 to 34:25
The discussion focuses on how NFL franchise values have skyrocketed due to increased revenue.
“they have, okay, you can watch this game, this game, this game, this game.”
Impact of Fantasy Sports and Betting
34:25 to 37:29
The hosts talk about how fantasy sports and betting affect viewers' engagement with the NFL.
“I can't even watch the game in peace because I got my bets.”
Jamar Chase Suspension Update
37:34 to 38:33
The hosts discuss Jamar Chase's one-game suspension and its implications.
“This is Malcolm Glabal from Smart Talks with IBM.”
Jamar Chase Suspension Update
38:43 to 41:08
The hosts discuss Jamar Chase's one-game suspension and its implications.
“Listen, Hedy, she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon.”
Analyzing Jamar Chase's Response
41:08 to 42:00
The discussion covers Jamar Chase's response to his suspension and public perception.
“Obviously, you know, once you get out of watching film on Mondays, he declined to talk to everybody.”
Jamar Chase's Incident and Character
42:00 to 44:52
Discussion about Jamar Chase's recent behavior and its implications on his character.
“But I mean, I just think you should call Ram and say, bro, I'm sorry.”
Triple Crown and Rare Achievements
44:52 to 47:54
Exploration of the rarity of achieving the Triple Crown in sports and its significance.
“So it doesn't happen often because there's not a whole lot of people that win the triple crown.”
Experiences at the Kentucky Derby
47:54 to 50:30
Personal anecdotes and experiences related to attending the Kentucky Derby.
“At the time, I met, rest his soul, I think, D.”
Daughter's Interest in Horses
50:30 to 52:19
A father's reflections on his daughter's newfound passion for horses and riding.
“Hey, listen, I get my hat ready right now.”
Justin Fields and the Jets' Quarterback Situation
52:19 to 56:00
Analysis of Justin Fields' performance and the Jets' ongoing quarterback struggles.
“But see, and to also, you got to understand, where I live in Miami, out that way, you know, because I'm further up north and west a little bit, ain't nothing out there but horses and stables.”
Discussion on Tyrod Taylor's Impact
56:00 to 57:26
Exploring Tyrod Taylor's ability to elevate the Jets' performance.
“You got to be able to elevate everybody else around you, and he's not that kind of quarterback.”
Jeffrey Simmons on Titans' Struggles
57:27 to 59:34
Analyzing Jeffrey Simmons' comments on the Titans' need for better teamwork.
“Let's take a listen to what Jeffrey Simons had to say.”
Back-to-Back Number One Picks
59:35 to 1:02:10
Debating the history of teams with consecutive number one overall picks.
“Hey, that's tough Well, you know how bad you already had You are in old Colts territory.”
Leadership and Team Performance
1:02:11 to 1:02:58
Discussing the importance of leadership in maintaining team morale.
“But they have back there, LeBron and Curtis Andrews.”
Leadership and Team Performance
1:05:23 to 1:05:34
Discussing the importance of leadership in maintaining team morale.
“T-Mobile is reinventing business internet with Super Broadband.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.
0:07Shannon Sharpe:It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News. Reporting for America. You're locked into a lot of things you can't change. Weather, traffic. Hey, stay in your lane. Your wireless carrier's latest price hike. But you can unlock a better way. Unlock the savings at Boost Mobile and save up to$600 a year. Switch to the$25 a month unlimited wireless plan. No contracts, no price hikes, and you keep your phone. Stop being locked into their games.
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3:15Shannon Sharpe:The Browns quarterback. Wow. The Browns quarterbacks are 0-17 in their first career starts since the team rejoined the NFL. This goes back to 1999. Let that sink in. A quarterback has never won their first NFL start in Cleveland going back to 1999. So basically, that's 27 years. That's crazy work. Look at these names. from Tim Couch to Spurgeon Wynn. Tom Brady's still mad about that Spurgeon Wynn. Luke McCown, Charlie Fry, Derek Anderson, Brady Quinn, Colt McCoy, Brandon Whedon, Thad Lewis, Johnny Manziel, Connor Shaw, Cody Kessler, Deshaun Kaiser, Kevin Hogan, Baker Mayfield, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, and Dylan Gabriel.
4:08That's crazy, Ocho! That's why. Maybe they just have bad luck in general. Maybe it's just organizational bad luck because to not have had a quarterback to have I mean they've had some success but it was short-lived it was short-lived that they're still in search of one that they can call their franchise quarterback and that's why they were so so eager to do what they did with Deshaun Watson because look what they had to deal with for so long huh this is what they had to deal with for so long that's why they were willing to throw whatever it was at Deshaun Watson because he understood the success that he had before, you know, those issues arose.
4:48And even after they arose, we still going to play him because we know what we're getting.
4:53Shannon Sharpe:You see the problem in Dojo? In Ocho, look at the years. 99, they had a starter. 2000, they had a different starter. 04, a different starter. 05, a different starter. 06, a different starter. 08, a different starter. You see a reoccurring theme, Ocho? Yeah, man. Joe, you see the reoccurring theme? Yeah, yeah. No continuity. You ain't just finna keep trotting quarterbacks out there year after year and think you gon' win? Look at that. Think about it. 12. Different quarterback. 14. Different quarterback. 14. Different quarterback. I mean, somebody in the same season. 16. Cody Kessler. 17. Deshaun Kizer.
5:31Shannon Sharpe:17. Kevin Hogan. 18. Baker Mayfield. Hey. Also, and you know what else too, Joe and Unc? not only different quarterbacks, different head coaches, different officer coordinators, different plays, having to continuously learn something new or learn a new system and not getting, like Unc said, any continuity, you know, as an offense, this is what happens. This is what happens. There's always something new. So no one's ever to get acclimated and comfortable to one thing, and this is what it will always look like, turmoil. Hey, I agree. You can't cheat chemistry and continuity, man. You can't cheat that.
6:08Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean? if you coming in every year with a different quarterback or a different OC, a different head coach, I mean. Different system. Yeah, it's a different system, so it's hard to catch rhythm and timing. You know, that stuff takes a while, but I can see why there ain't no quarterback. No, no game one. That's crazy. Yeah, well, I know one thing. Shadour, he gets his chance to start. This is the opportunity he's been waiting on. You know, there's no more excuses. And you couldn't pick the better team to start against. Oh, yeah, yeah. Listen, you have a chance to make history. You have a chance to make history and change the narrative, you know?
6:46And if things go well, the talk's going to be good. If things don't go well, we're going to let it be known. Especially me. I've gotten really good at this Uncle Joe. I've gotten really good at being critical when people aren't playing well. Yeah, we got to talk about what we see. I'm not sugarcoating shit. If you go out there and shit it up, all excuses are out the window. You had a week to prepare. You had a week to get acclimated with the offense.
7:13Shannon Sharpe:And you're playing against the Raiders. Damn, that's insane. Just block 98. If y 'all make a mistake, block 98. Matter of fact, you can scheme him all game. You can scheme a way to stop 98 all game. Chip him, double him, do whatever you need to do to give Shadour time to be able to do what he does best. Throw the ball. Shouldn't be no goddamn excuses. Because, boy, they threw them in against the Ravens. Them boys fighting for their lives over there. Well, I think the thing is, and plus he gets an opportunity. I think the biggest thing, Joe and Nocho, he gets an opportunity to work with those guys.
7:52Shannon Sharpe:So he'll understand how they get in and out of breaks. He'll understand, you know, the tempo and the speed in which they run their routes. Because that's something that you can't, you need to be in there to see. because one guy, he might take a while, he might not get his head around. Ocho was a guy that got his head around real quick. Yes. So you know, hey, I could put this ball out before we come out of his break. I know it soon. Ocho's snapping his head around. Yes, sir. Other guys, he's like, bro, the ball will hit you inside your damn head if you don't get your head around now. You got to get in and out of those breaks.
8:20Shannon Sharpe:And I thought he threw the ball with some time. Yeah, he missed some throws. There was a couple of shallow crosses that he probably should have took, but he's the guy that wants to push the ball down the field. Their problem was they were unwilling to take chances. Gabriel was unwilling to take chances and push the ball down the field. It's hard for you to methodically, three yards here, two yards there, five yards here, five yards, one yard. It's hard to methodically go down the field and win games without at some point in time taking a chance to put the ball down the field. It's just hard to just do that every single down in and down out.
8:55Shannon Sharpe:They got to have some consistency. Obviously, they can't fall behind. and take the running game completely away. But as long as they can keep the game, I'm able to run some. I can play action off of that, Ocho. Give him some stuff where I get down flat. Hey, I get a flat route. I get an over route. I get a comeback. You know, give him stuff like that, stuff that's going to allow him to get the ball out of his hands real quick at times. And there are other times that you're going to have to call plays specifically so he can push the ball down the field. Right. And I think they'll have some success.
9:25Shannon Sharpe:Yes, look. What's it called? Might have another four or five sack game. Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett. That offensive line, did you see the offensive line? You see what the Cowboys do? The Cowboys ain't got two players combined that's as good as Miles Garrett, let alone one. Yeah, you're right. And he ain't. So, I mean, Quinny Williams had a sack and a half. Or Diggy Zua had two. I mean, everybody was getting in on action. So I can just imagine. Hey, you know what? If you think about it, Donk, as good as the defense is, this just might be the game. This just might be the game where that 0-17 losing streak for quarterback starting in their first time, it might be snap.
10:15There's a good chance if he protects the ball, and knowing the defense, the defense can get the ball back for him many of times on Sunday. it's a good chance hey
10:29Shannon Sharpe:the defense should create some great field position for it because Gino is prime Gino is really high up on turning the ball over I don't know if he's leading the league in interception but he damn close put it like this I don't know if he's leading the room but he at the table where the guy that's leading the league in interception Gino at the table having a conversation with him you know I'm right behind you I'm probably going to tie you up this week so don't get too comfortable helping that lead Shadour just needs to be Shadour like I said get the ball out of your hands and don't take listen Shadour I understand like you know you looking to make the big play but it's okay to throw the ball out of bounds you're not going to outrun you weren't blessed with your dad's speed he weren't so that belly and back you're not going to outrun these D ends.
11:23Shannon Sharpe:You're not. You're not. All you're going to do if you're in field goal range, you're going to take your team out of field goal range. Make it manageable. If you take a sack on second down, Ocho, now you put yourself further behind the sticks on third downs. They need to stay in front of the sticks. That's the thing that you want young quarterbacks, Joe, you want them to stay in front of the sticks. You want it second and five, second and six. You want it third and one to three. Third and at the bare maximum, Third and five. You start getting third, eight to 10, 12, 13, you asking for trouble. Yeah.
11:56Shannon Sharpe:You asking for trouble. I believe in him, man. I think he's going to do pretty well this weekend, considering with him having a week with the ones, right? The number ones. He hadn't done that all year. And I think he's just a young, confident dude, bro. I feel like he knows this is his moment. And I feel like he's going to step up and shine. Yeah. Yeah. he waited a long time, what, 12 weeks to get his opportunity. It didn't seem like it was going to come. But, you know, hey, now the opportunity is here. My brother said, hey, man, I ain't getting no run. Man, they ain't giving me. He said, hey, John Elway gonna call your number now.
12:39Shannon Sharpe:Just make sure when he call your number, you pick the phone up. There you go. Okay. It took him 12 weeks for him to call his line, call his number. Mm-hmm. Shadour, answer the phone. Yep, answer the phone. That's going to be a good one. Shadour spoke about getting first team reps. I'm truly excited for that, knowing that I have a piece of the offense to say so and how things fit my eye and place and the players exactly where they need to be, seeing how that come in and out of route, seeing the structure of the old linemen, seeing their set, just having a feeling. I'm more of a field type of a person.
13:16Shannon Sharpe:So that's how I learned. That's how I do everything. I'm not just a, I'm going to watch it. It's just going to happen. No, I got to be out there. Feel it. I got to move around. I like so many details that it takes for me to feel my best and play my best. I'm doing everything in my power, and this team's doing everything in their power to help me get prepared. Yeah. Ocho? Yeah. What you think the stats? What you think the stats going to be? You know what? I don't want to say. I don't want to jinx it. I don't want to jinx it. I just know. You don't want to jinx it? Yeah, I don't want to jinx it.
13:48I just know that Stefanski understands what Shador's strengths are going to be. He's going to understand what Shador does well. So the game plan, going to that game, is going to be dedicated and geared towards what he's able to do well. For one, that's getting the ball down the goddamn field. Having a healthy balance of being able to run the ball so play action works as well when they do want to throw and make sure they cannot, under any circumstances, be one-dimensional. They can't be one-dimensional. So a healthy balance of the run, a healthy balance of the pass, and once that young bull get in the rhythm and get any kind of confidence, Joe, man, shh.
14:30Shannon Sharpe:I think that comes with the prep, you know, throughout the week. Yeah. You know, especially with the ones, getting that under your belt, that's going to create a lot of confidence for that young boy, man. Yeah. You know, going into the game, and I think that's going to help him, Ankenocho. Yeah, and the play calling is going to look completely different because you got a quarterback that can do something different that you couldn't. It can look completely different. Ocho, you remember, Joe, you remember your first start? Ocho, what you remember about your first start? San Diego Chargers. San Diego Chargers in San Diego, obviously, when they had the baseball field.
15:06Rodney Harrison. Jack and Merv, huh? Yeah, yep. Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau, Ryan McNeil, who went to UM, played defensive back. Yeah, went to the U. Yep. I scored my first touchdown on Ryan McNeil in the corner of the end zone, and the scar is still there because I landed on, I don't know if it was third base or home plate and skinned up. The infield. Yeah, the infield and skinned up my whole arm. It's still there. It's still there. That's how deep that cherry was. Yeah, that was dope. That was my first start.
15:41Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you remember your first start? Yeah. My first start was, obviously, it was my rookie year. It was second game of the season, Uncle Ocho. I was playing behind Eric Williams, who was a small forward for the Boston Celtics at the time. Yeah. Well, he injured his knee in the first game. So second game of the season, coach was like, we're going to start you at the two. It was against the Milwaukee Bucks with Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, Big Dog. Oh, man. I came out there and had a time. You hear me? I put up about 23. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, young rookie. I want my little 20. Hey, I want him to 20 years old out there, man, out there getting to it.
16:17Shannon Sharpe:You hear me? Yeah. You dropped a little 20 for a little easy 20 piece on him. What? Hey, look. See, all you need, especially when you're young like that, is to see those type of performances just to let you know, OK, oh, yeah, I belong right here. I can do this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And next thing you know, boy, you be putting on a show. For real. I like it. Man, I just kept saying, man, they need to put me in. They need to put me in. I was just saying, oh, Joe, man, they need to put me in. I can make some plays. I can make some plays. Yeah. Lord and behold. They put you in there? We getting ready to play the Chiefs.
16:53Shannon Sharpe:We getting ready to play the Chiefs. Hey, the Chiefs got Albert Lewis. They got Kevin Ross. They got Deron Cherry. They got Martin Bayless. They got Neil Smith, Derrick Thomas. Ooh. Yeah. Damn. Big Joe Phillips. Oh man, they got Percy Snow. Yeah. Dan Salamu, Ocho. Yeah. I say, put me in, not against them. Let me get somebody that ain't them. They got the number one, number two defense in all the football. So I'm like, yeah, we're going to put you, we're going to start you, and we're going to put you in. I said, oh, OK. I said so you know I'm like so what I'm gonna do so they say hey want you to line up outside yeah and we get into the we get into like five inside the five of the inside we're gonna throw you a fade I'm like Adam Lewis went to the Pro Bowl Kevin Ross went to the Pro Bowl so you mean to tell me y 'all gonna put a rookie in and say go run a fade on one of him?
18:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, just jump up over the top of him. Y 'all say that like that's easy. I ain't know no better. I was like, oh, oh, Joe, so I told my brothers, but your boy gonna get the game, they gotta play for you, boy. What a call. Hey, they say jump ball. Oh, Joe, I'm geek. Jump ball. You know what I'm saying, oh, Joe? Yeah. Okay. Joe, I get out there. They call it rock, because he was compact, but he was strong. He got his hands on you, you call hell getting off him. But anyway, they didn't expect me to shake him like I did. Yeah. Because they thought it was going to be physical, and so this thorn jump off.
18:42Shannon Sharpe:Joe, how about I beat him off the ball clean? I said, OK, he going to lay it over the top. I'm going to kick that thing. Got him. Yeah. He back-shouldered, Ocho. Oh! Oh, man. So I really had to jump up over the top of it to get it. Did you get it? I got it. Oh, you caught it. I got it. I caught it, yeah. Hey, hey, I walk into the line. Oh, Joe, Joe, I walk into the line. I said, Lord, if you help me catch this ball, you ain't got to let me catch no more my whole career. I done made promises. Hey, hey, listen. Hey. Hey, because ain't nothing like them calling the players. I called it Ocho. Yeah.
19:26Shannon Sharpe:And from that moment, that gave me the confidence because I beat a pro bowler for my very first touchdown. So that gave me the confidence that I belonged. Yeah. And I'm like, and I remember getting back, and I remember going to the side, because everybody came and like, man, good job. Hey, that's where they make a play. And Selvin John told me, say, see, that's like you. Yeah. You can do that. Mm-hmm. I said, I can do that? Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, that's me. I don't know why y 'all surprised. I was like, well, that's cool. Hey, I was great. Get what I played cool, though.
20:06Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I tried to play it cool. Get what, Ocho. Hey, I was so good. I said, hey, get in there. They throw me a short cross. Guy hit me in the back, I fumble it.
20:19Shannon Sharpe:I know I can't have no prosperity. I was going to be able to have no prosperity. But then... I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. If we got clear facts, maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America. You're locked into a lot of things you can't change. Weather, traffic. Hey, stay in your lane. Your wireless carrier's latest price hike. But you can unlock a better way. Unlock the savings at Boost Mobile and save up to$600 a year.
21:09Switch to the$25 a month unlimited wireless plan. No contracts, no price hikes, and you keep your phone. Stop being locked into their games. Unlock the savings at BoostMobile.com slash unlock. Based on average annual single line of payment of AT &T, Verizon, and T-Mobile customers, compared to 12 months on the Boost Mobile Unlimited Wireless plan as of January 2026. For full offer details, visit BoostMobile.com. Hello, hello. This is Malcolm Glabal from Smart Talks with IBM. Today we're diving into a fascinating conversation with Stefano Pallard, head of fan development for Scuderia Ferrari HP.
21:41Your pronunciation is strongly American. It's more Scuderia Ferrari. I'm still working on rolling my R's. But what I was able to learn from Stefano was the importance of engaging the Tifosi, the Ferrari superfans in the digital age. Ferrari fans and superfans want to be part of something, want to belong to something. So they want to be part of a community and ultimately they want to be part of a winning team. You've got Ferrari, which has a long history, design history. And now you're interacting in a kind of digital space. I'm curious how you balance those two traditions. When it comes to fan engagement, it's really digital technology and digital channels are being able to create a deeper connection with our fans.
22:29Shannon Sharpe:To learn more about how Ferrari and IBM are using technology to build deeper connections with fans, visit ibm.com slash Ferrari. Hi, it's Karen in Georgia from My Favorite Murder. We cruised around L.A. in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr. Want the full story? Take a listen. Hedy, she starts dating Howard Hughes, the aviation tycoon. Do you know a lot about him? I mean, I watch The Aviator, so I know everything Leonardo DiCaprio has allowed me to know about him. But incredible innovator. Right. She says he's a, quote, very strange man. But they do get along really well.
23:09Give us examples. I know. They do get along intellectually. And in fact, she helps him design a faster plane. She takes a look at what he's designed. It's got these square wings. And she's like, that doesn't make sense. And so she finds the fastest bird and the fastest fish and sketches out a drawing of like what the two would look like as a plane. And that becomes the plane that we know today. And he calls her a genius. Check out our new episode spotlighting groundbreaking innovators like Hedy Lamarr and Billie Jean King. Presented by the Hyundai Ioniq 5. Goodbye.
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24:13Shannon Sharpe:They put me back in. They put me back in. Hey, you just got to hold on to the ball. It's going to happen quick. Oh, yeah. Oh, Joe, I run a goal ball against cover, too. Yeah. Man, I'm talking about, like, soon as the ball hit my hands, safety hit me in the back. Oof. I held on to it, though. Okay. I held on to it, though, Ojo. Okay, okay, okay. I got to have the ball and threw a yeah. Yeah. That was like, man, I really, I really, and come to find out, I would go back and listen to the TV version of it. Yeah. And the announcer said, Coach Reeves is really high on this kid. Think this kid has a lot of potential.
24:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. So he didn't tell me that. Oh, I got potential. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Okay. Hey, one thing about it. But oh man, that was. Hey, Joe, I mean, Joe and Unc and those in the chat that have played sports, one thing about it, when you're not sure yourself, you know, and even if you are confident and you go out there and you perform well and whatever it is that you do, whatever, whatever your respective craft may be, and you, you make a play or you do something good and then you, you do it again and you start to build that confidence. Once you got confidence, it's a wrap. It's a wrap from that point on and you just stack them one on top of another.
25:33and at some point it just becomes it becomes natural, it becomes consistent
25:38Shannon Sharpe:oh yeah, hey look as a rookie, man you play so hard bro I'm talking about so hard because listen, I just remember being out there on the court thinking like man I'm out here playing against Michael Jordan Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter I'm playing with Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce I remember being in so much of all that I was like Like, I'm telling y 'all, bro, I couldn't really sleep as a rookie. Like, I used to be so geek for the moment. Like, I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. So you just wanted to play hard as crap because I never wanted Coach to have a reason to take me out the game. I don't care what it was.
26:14Shannon Sharpe:I was out there playing hard as I don't know and trying to get as many deflections as I can, hands everywhere. I ain't lying. Oh, that's funny. Hey, it's just like when you see, man, I remember the first time we played in Denver was a preseason game. We played the 49ers. Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, all them, Roger Craig, John, all them, I'm like, damn, I'm really on the field, I'm really in the NFL, that's them, that's Jerry, I'm looking at Jerry like, that's Joe Montana, that's Ronnie Lott. Yeah. I was like I caught a touchdown in the preseason Ocho and then hit the hammer on him Hold on, you were dancing in the preseason?
27:08Shannon Sharpe:Boy, look here I'm from an HBCU I just caught a touchdown on the defending Super Bowl chair
27:17Shannon Sharpe:I was going crazy And it was televised It was a Monday night game It was televised Ocho Joe, they saw me. Everybody in Savannah State, I know they watching. My hometown, Glenville, they watching. I already know. Man, I told y 'all, I know Sharp. Man, I told y 'all Sharp like that. Man, I bet I was so happy. Man, I bet my cell phone bill probably$700. Because you know back then, cell phone bill, they charge about a minute. It was like$3 a minute, Joe. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was like$3,$4 a minute. I mean, a phone bill. Hey, quick. High. That old had that big old brick, too. I don't know why I had a brick, bro.
28:01Shannon Sharpe:I was a seventh round draft pick. Yeah. 64 ,000, I got a cell phone bill. Oh, yeah. The Motorola. The Motorola. 8-something. I know you talking about it. Yeah, that big brick. Yeah, they had the big brick. Now, they had the one that you had the pouch. You had to carry like a pouch. You had to carry like a pouch. Yeah. That you can carry on your purse, and you can just hit it. Yeah. And then they came with the portable. What's up, Joe? Was it free on the weekends? Could you call them? That came later. At first, it wasn't like that. You had to pay. And it was all, like, if you go out of the area, it was Roman.
28:34Shannon Sharpe:Roman Chargers. Roman Chargers. Roman Chargers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Man, no Roman Chargers, man, that thing be my f***. It'd be crazy. I ain't know. Hey, let me tell you. I didn't know nothing about no Roman Chargers. I just, hey, they didn't explain it to you back then, Ocho. They don't explain it to you now that this is what you get. and if you go over your data, you got to pay extra. They didn't explain it. Phone, this is what it costs, blah, blah, blah. I ain't know nothing about Roman. I ain't know if you go out and saying Roman with extra like$6 and you get a call. I'm big balling. Ocho, I'm taking my phone on the road.
29:05Shannon Sharpe:That's Roman. You got money, boy. Hey, listen, I forgot what service provider I was with. I ain't got no money. Yeah, I forgot what service provider I was with, Joe and Unc, but I understood. I forgot what I was with, too, Ocho. I had him explain to me about the minutes. And they said, well, if you use a certain amount of minutes and you hold on to it, you don't use your phone that much this month, the minutes going to roll over into the next month. I said, yeah. So I'm going to make sure I don't go over a certain amount of minutes so I got a little bit extra going to the next month. Joe, hey, them were some days back then, boy.
29:42It don't work like that.
29:43Shannon Sharpe:You been to burn through them minutes so quick. Quick. Man, what? You burn through them minutes so quick. And then once they brought that weekend after 7 o 'clock and weekend free, hey, I call y 'all at 7.05. You ain't get no call during the day. On the phone, on the phone all night long. Hey, I call you when it's free. And then the weekend, oh, you burn that thing up. Hey, I'm telling you to that thing get hot on the side of your head. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hold on. Hey, Joe, don't have no girlfriend, though. On the weekend, y 'all be on the phone. You be on the phone all day, all night. Hold on, you wake up, the phone's sitting on your chest.
30:26Hello? Oh, you still there? Yeah. The whole, hey, boy, hey, there was some days. Hey, Joe, I know you did that with you. It was a day, though, OG. It was a day that you ain't gonna lie.
30:37Shannon Sharpe:Man, come on now. Hey, on the phone all night long. Ain't don't be talking about nothing. Ain't talking about nothing. Nothing. Six, seven hours, straight. Man. They made the pause that Spones got smaller and they had a little clip that you have on your side like that Star Tech. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the side kick too. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, them some good memories. Let me ask you this, Joe and Ocho. Which game do you think will have the most views? Browns Raiders or Eagles Cowboys?
31:08Shannon Sharpe:Browns Raiders. Probably the Browns Raiders. That's a lot of people. Man, there's a lot of people looking forward to seeing Shadou play. They are. He got his fingers in the early window, so they're not really going head-to-head because of the Fox game, the Cowboys-Eagles. I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think that's 4 o 'clock game. 425. Is that 425? 425, right. And so what you call him is in that 105 window. Yeah. So all of the – But it's just the Cowboys, man. Hey, did you see all those Cowboys fans Monday night at that stadium? I did. I did. Did you see all those Cowboy fans? I flew out. We flew out.
31:45Shannon Sharpe:Jordan and I flew out on Tuesday morning. Uh-huh. Joe, Ocho, I was like, hold on. They fans weren't going to Dallas. They flying to Atlanta. So I can just imagine the people going back to Dallas. I can imagine the people going elsewhere because there was so many Cowboy fans in that airport. So many Cowboy fans. I'm talking about cowboy hats, cowboy boots, Dak jersey, CD jersey. I'm like, oh, my goodness. You people traveling, man. They travel. Hey, the Steelers. Oh, man, they love the Cowboys. Hey, the Steelers. Hold on. They're both in the late. Oh, actually, they moved them. The Colts Chief is in the early window.
32:27Shannon Sharpe:So the Colts Chief is the 1 o 'clock game. And now the Browns Raiders and the Cowboys Eagle are both in the same 425 window. Oh, shoot. It's going to be interesting. Yeah. I still think the Browns and Raiders are going to have the most views. And the way they do that, see, you can't get, what you call them, like sometimes you can have, they have, okay, you can watch this game, this game, this game, this game. They're not going to do it with these two games. You got to pick one. You got to pick one. Hey, look, why it's so hard to watch the game now, man? You got to download eight apps. You sure do.
33:00Guess what, Joe?
33:03Shannon Sharpe:Guess what? When that new contract come up, you're going to have to download some more. Yeah. Well, you already got Netflix, but Netflix is going to want a package. That's how they get it. That's how these franchises, you see all these franchises, how they skyrocket in prices. I mean, a Broncos owner, he just bought the Broncos for$4.5 million. Now they're worth$6.8 billion. In five, six years, they've increased$2.3 billion. The Cowboys worked, what,$11,$12,$13 billion. Jerry bought it for$135,$140 million. Hey, that's why because the revenue, look, there are a lot of sports. There's baseball, there's basketball, but nothing moves the needle in North America like NFL football.
33:52Shannon Sharpe:NFL loves some football. Especially for two reasons. Fantasy and sports betting. Because you watch it intently. Are they going to cover Ocho? and then now the prop bets, man, sometimes you don't even care about the game. I just want to see if CD get six catches. I just want to see if CD get set to buy a yard. I want to see what Chase, man. Hey, that's why I have to stop betting. That's what I care about. I don't care. All that other stuff, I try to get these props. Hey, look, Ojo, that's why I have to stop betting. I can't even watch the game in peace because I got my bets. I'm trying to hit. I'm like, man.
34:30Shannon Sharpe:And look, it's like when you watching it intensively like that, you ain't never going to hit. But boy, let you mess around, make a bed, and end up falling asleep or something. Boy, you be right on the number. Every time. I have to stop watching. That's how they do when you play the cast three of the cast. Hey, I know you happy. Happy about what? I know you happy. Your birthday came. I said, what? What birthday? That's what my sister called me. Yeah, I know you probably had it. I said, had what? Your birthday. I said, huh? My birthday hit? At 0626, cash flow. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.
35:10Shannon Sharpe:I had it straight in a straight box. Yeah. A little cool$12 ,500. A little$12 ,500 I hit. Yeah. Then the cash three, my aunt's birthday, 7-11. Yeah. I played it. I had it 10 times straight. It came. That's$5 ,000. They tried to run it back past me, Joe, the next day. Because I played it that evening on Sunday. And I played it again. You know what? Y 'all going to try to run it back again. Hey, guess what? They brought it right back. Brought it right back, Joe. And guess what? I was sitting on it again. Another 5 ,000. Yeah, Joe. They can't get on by. Hey, hey. Matter of fact, you know what? I'm going to do that.
35:49Now, you just gave me an idea. You know, I'm going to play my grandma and my mama birthdays. I'm going to play my grandma and my mama birthdays. probably play, you know, maybe due to the year they were born. Yeah, I'm going to go play. I don't play.
36:03Shannon Sharpe:That's normally what I do. You play your bird. If you play it, you can play it straight, combo, straight box. I played it straight. I had it two times straight and one time combo. Combo probably cost you$2 because it's extra because now anywhere it comes, those numbers come. It can come 6-6-2-0. It can come 6-6-0-2. Any combination and you'll get, you know, half of what you normally would get. So, oh yeah, I'll hit a lick on it. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts.
36:46Maybe we can calm down a little.
36:50Shannon Sharpe:NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.
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40:21Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, Jamar Chase, we had this conversation last night. Jamar Chase was suspended one game. The one-game suspension will cost him over half a million dollars, $448 ,333 in a game check, and$58 ,824 in an active roster bonus. Chase plans to appeal and argue this one-game suspension, claiming that if it was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his face and not on the man's jersey, the ground. Ocho. Ocho, that's not, come on, Ram. I mean, come on, Chase. He didn't even talk to the media. Although, that's what M. Rappaport said, is that he said if he was going to spit on Jalen Ramsey, he would have spit in his face and not on the jersey, the ground.
41:08Yeah, I don't think he said that. Because he declined to talk to media. He declined to talk to everybody today. Obviously, you know, once you get out of watching film on Mondays, he declined to talk to everybody. What?
41:23Shannon Sharpe:I guess his team put that out. But anyway, I don't know how – I don't know. But first of all, you said you didn't spit. So whether you were spitting on the ground or you would have did X, Y, and Z, you said you didn't spit. That's what you said. You said that after the game. Yeah. Now, all that, Ocho, you know they shoot everything. Man, you know they shoot everything in 4K? Mm-hmm. And you could actually see it? Yeah. Yeah! Mm-hmm. You could see pimples on an ant booty from the moon. That's how good the cameras are, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Chase. Absolutely. Appeal it. But I mean, I just think you should call Ram and say, bro, I'm sorry.
42:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. My emotions got the best of me. and leave and because this one incident, this is not you. I don't believe this is you. I'm surprised that we're actually having Ocho and I having this conversation and you're the topic of the conversation because you're ensnared in this. I wouldn't have believed it. If you would have been the very last person, they said a receiver, there are some other names I might have would have went to, but I wouldn't have been. I wouldn't have put that on you. So I hope that's what Ian Rappaport said, his team said, or he said. I don't believe it. I'm going to say, let's just say, but for the sake of, but you did spit on him.
42:46Shannon Sharpe:What you would have done, you spit on the man. And it's going to cost you, but you'll learn from it. I don't believe this is the type of person that you are. We've all done things that we're not, it's not our finest moment. and I don't think this moment should define Jamar Chase there are going to be a lot of other moments that we can look back and define Jamar Chase with this is not going to be a defining moment but the best the best apology Ocho is change behavior don't let something like this happen again and we're going to be good bro the funny thing about it when we talk about change behavior of some of the players I'm not just speaking on Jamar Chase in general, to change behavior, most of the time, he's going to make you forget about it on the field.
43:37Shannon Sharpe:Yes. He's going to make you forget about it on the field. And we never have problems out of Chase off the field anyway. No, you don't. Never have problems from him. So when you think of a hypothetical, if this scenario or this situation never happened and you just thought of some players that it would come from, it wouldn't come from him because he's one who causes no problems. The problem he calls is on the field. Correct. Fuck as hell. That's it. That's why I struggle. That's why you struggle. Yeah. Because you know him better than I do, and there was never any indication. He's so laid back.
44:08Shannon Sharpe:He's so... If you watch him when he does an interview, he's sitting back, he chill. He's sitting back like this here. All the time, yeah. So he... And the little bit that I've been around him, I've been around him a couple times doing an autograph signing. I saw him at the Super Bowl. He's a chill guy. Yeah. He's not one of these high, strong guys that, you know, that's liable to go off. He's really mild-mannered. Yeah. So that's why it's so surprising. But.
44:39Shannon Sharpe:You know, look, like I said, you know, this season was supposed to be different. They missed the playoff last year. He had the triple crown. He's the first triple crown, my brother, to win that and not make the playoffs. My brother won the triple crown in 92. They didn't make the playoffs. Yeah. He won the triple crown in 24. They didn't. So almost 30, almost over 30 years. So it doesn't happen often because there's not a whole lot of people that win the triple crown. It's hard. So you've got to have the most catches, yards, and touchdowns versus everybody, not just the NFC, but the AFC as well.
45:15Shannon Sharpe:Sometimes you can have yards. Sometimes you can have catches. And then somebody nips you with touchdowns. He had both. It's kind of like winning the triple crown in baseball. Yeah. Yeah, you could have a.380 batting average, but you got 40 home runs and somebody got 50 or somebody drives in 135. That's why it doesn't happen that often. Mickey Cabrera was the last one. Then you got to go all the way back to Yaz. Call you Skrimski. Okay, okay. Yeah. And they say who? Okay. Yeah. So, or the same thing in horse racing. You know, hey, you might win that first two. But that mile and a half at the Belmonts.
45:56Shannon Sharpe:Woo! That's it. That's hell, boy. Yeah. If you notice, now a lot of horses just like, hey, forget it. They just say, they like, I don't even worry about it. Hey, we win the Kentucky Derby. We'll skip the Preakness. We'll see you at the Belmont. Right. I mean, it was such a long time. And then, I mean, because everybody thought it was easy. You get secretary in 73, and then you get Seattle Salou in a firm. Back-to-back years, 77, 78. And then it's like, well, man, it's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. And then you get American Pharaoh do it. and then you come back with a justified Bob Baffert two horses.
46:30Yeah.
46:31Shannon Sharpe:It's hard. It's hard. You probably had more triple crown winners in baseball than you had in horse racing. Hmm. But. And it's difficult. Oh, yeah, for sure. And you've been to the Kentucky Derby before? I've been, Ocho. We got A. It's all about, Ocho, it's all about the hat. Yes. For a man and a woman, it's all about. I've seen women come with some hat and be barefooted. Be barefooted. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking, cause it normally, I don't know, for some reason it normally rains. Yeah. But these, Elcho, these ladies have these hats. I mean, one lady had a hat. I mean, this hat was way out here like this here.
47:17Shannon Sharpe:And you know your boy, we had the hat. Oh yeah, you was at that shop? Huh? You was shop? If a fly would have landed on my Ocho, I'd have cut his throat. You see, you messing me up. You messing up the ensemble. Yeah, I'm a clean Ocho. Yeah, yeah. I done been there a few times. Obviously, when I was in Cincinnati, it was right down the street. As a matter of fact, hell, I flew into Cincinnati and drove over. Drove down, yeah. Yeah. Right down the street, man. It's a great event. I only did it one time. You know, I'm not in that kind of. That's why I met Bob Baffert. I met him and his son. At the time, I met, rest his soul, I think, D.
48:02Shannon Sharpe:Wayne Lucas. I met a couple of them. Yeah, it's great. It's awesome sports. It's unbelievable, Ocho. Because it was on my bucket list. I've been to a World Series. Obviously, I've been to a Super Bowl, the Kentucky Derby. I want to do Daytona 500. I went to Wimbledon. That's grown up. Huh? Listen, do me a favor. Give yourself some justice so you can understand the experience. When you go to the Daytona 500, do not let them put you in a suite. You need to sit in the stand so you can get the foot. You feel them go around that track? Yes. Yes. You've got to be able to experience it. You've got to feel those cars coming around.
48:42The energy, the aura, the stands. You've got to feel, oh, man. It's un -
48:46Shannon Sharpe:It's crazy, man. It's crazy. I mean, it's something about when you feel 800 horsepower, and there's 42 of those cars and they're going 180, 190 miles an hour and they're this close. They're this close and those cars are damn near upside down. Unbelievable. Hey, boy, hey. Hey, they bump draft. That's a rest of your soul to Terminator. Dale Earnhardt. Sling shot down in the back. Oh, man. I got to see that one. I got to see that. I want to see Wilma because I went to see, I saw the U.S. Open. I saw Serena.
49:28Shannon Sharpe:She just got married to a couple of years ago to David Lee. The Dane, the tennis player. She married David Lee, the basketball player. I saw her and Serena play a semifinal at the U.S. Open on a Saturday night. What's her name? Wolzniaki. Yep. She married David Lee. I think they got a couple of kids. because I saw them in Vegas, maybe for the Super Bowl.
49:57Shannon Sharpe:David Lee, Michael Phelps and his wife, and it was David Lee and Wozniacki, but man. Oh, I got it, I got it. Yeah, you look at your boy. Hey, boy, you clean, eh? Yeah, you feel it, boy? You feel, sucker. I see you, okay, you clean. You clean. Look, I feel something I pulled out. I was in a hurry. Was in a hurry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. Hey, hold on. It's April. Ocho, we might have to jump down there. Club Shay Shay might have to, I mean, a nightcap might have to go on the road at the Derby. Hey, listen, I get my hat ready right now. Don't fail me. Hey, because you know when it come to put them things on, I put that you know what on, now.
50:40I'm ready. Yeah, we might have to go on and do a little something, Ocho.
50:43Shannon Sharpe:We might have to go on and do something on two something. Hey, speaking of horses in Kentucky Derby, my daughter my daughter cha-cha she plays tennis she's phenomenal she's yeah phenomenal and she loves horses that's what I love she said um I'm gonna blame my mama I'm gonna blame my mama we went riding horses this past weekend a weekend before last um she asked me all about types of horses and telling me about saddles and I'm like man where in the world you learn all this stuff I said, she's really into it. So I'm like, okay, okay, cool. Okay. Hey, listen. So as soon as we finish riding, you know the first thing, Christmas coming up.
51:22So the first thing I do, I'm talking to the lady. We on the trail, we riding. Ask the trainer, I say, you know, what horses run? How much they cost? Okay. A thousand, 1500 for something simple? Okay, bet. What, please? No, I ain't getting nothing too expensive now. You know, she young now. So I'm like, okay, what about boarding? What about feeding? Do they have places? Do they have places out here? Yeah. That's where you spend the money. Do they have board? It's like, yeah. Yes. That's what I do for a horse. There's board. So I ask her. I say, well, listen, I'm going to leave my information and send it to me.
51:57And the numbers and what it costs, weekly, monthly, and for the year. And I'm thinking about getting my daughter. I'm thinking about getting a Passofino. I don't want none too big. I want some a little small where the ride is smooth and a Possefino would be perfect for her yeah I'm just curious I'm kind of excited I'm kind of excited for her because she loved him so much and I think that would be one of the best breast surprises for one of one of my 85 on Christmas
52:25Shannon Sharpe:morning the thing is Ocho is that yeah you get a horse for a decent price you probably spend 1500 maybe$5 ,000 on a horse what you got to put into it completely different but to board it and to Yes. Yeah. But see, and to also, you got to understand, where I live in Miami, out that way, you know, because I'm further up north and west a little bit, ain't nothing out there but horses and stables. That's it. And when you think Miami, you think South Beach, you know, all the nice stuff. But I'm out there in a, I don't even know what you want to call it. You know, you go to Walmart, you go to Target, and when you're driving, it's people riding horses up and down the street like we in goddamn Texas.
53:05I'm serious that's how far out I am from everybody
53:13Shannon Sharpe:the New York Jets are benching Justin Fields for backup Tyron Taylor the move comes following the 27-14 loss to Patriots last Thursday night the game in which Fields threw 416 yards on 15 of 26 passing Fields signed a two year 40 million dollar deal with the Jets last spring the contract guarantees him 20 million and 25 and another$10 million in 26. Ocho, does this mention suggest that the Justin Fields experiment is officially over? Yes, it does. And I hate that for Young Bull. I'm just going to be honest. I hate that for him. And not only is the experiment over, it puts the Jets back in the same position that they've been in for a very long time since Joe Namath.
54:00It's in search of a quarterback number one. They're back in search of quarterback number one. I really was pulling for Justin Fields and hoping this would be his season. They have his own team. Things didn't go well with the Bears. He went to Pittsburgh. We saw flashes. We saw flashes of brilliance leading that Pittsburgh Steelers team offensively to a 4-2 record before he was benched for Russell Wilson that Mike Tomlin had said would be the starter once he gets back healthy. Now, Justin Fields, this is your team. You quarterback number one. You have nothing to worry about. You don't have to look over your shoulder.
54:38You can play freely, you know. Just minimize your mistakes, protect the ball, and try to run that offense as efficient as you possibly can. And, Unk, to this point, we're in week 10 damn near, if I'm not mistaken. Week 10, yeah? Yeah, we're about to head into week 12. Oh, shit. Well, we're in week 12. and just no week 13 uh yeah this is week 12 yeah yeah i mean and right here in the week yeah week
55:06Shannon Sharpe:12. yeah at this point based on numbers uh what you've seen we've talked about it all the time you know having games and you got 20 30 yards at the half yeah man come on man 45 yards passing an nfl quarterback yeah you know okay okay once i get that but ocho multiple five back to back Back to back. No, man, no.
55:31And sometimes when I think about it, Uncle, it's like sometimes I think they sabotaging him, you know? But I know that's not the case. I know that's not the case because they can only sabotage you so much, you know, I hurt for Young Bull because he really won the opportunity to be quarterback number one, and it just hasn't panned out or worked out. No. The Jets is probably one of the worst situations to go to because you have to be that much better at the quarterback position than everything around you. You got to be able to elevate everybody else around you, and he's not that kind of quarterback.
56:13Shannon Sharpe:Man. Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams couldn't help him. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one. so you put that that green and white on you already know damn well listen Tyrod you know proven veteran Tyrod gonna get in there and the one thing about him you know he gonna move that oh you gonna let it by now Tyrod will let it go you gonna move that ball too he gonna move that ball I wonder who the Jets got this week who the Jets play
56:57Shannon Sharpe:the Ravens oh hell no shit hey in Baltimore that's where Tyron started remember Tyron was the backup to Joe Flacco yeah the Joe yeah I remember sure was and he started in Buffalo he took Buffalo to the playoffs people forget that that's right yeah that's right yes What is this? Jeffrey Simmons said he's tired of sugarcoating things and is sick of the Titans not playing complimentary football. Let's take a listen to what Jeffrey Simons had to say. Can't open the Foxcars. We need to be better. I mean, we can't keep saying the same thing, trying to sugarcoat it. But immediately, for not anybody. And I said it in the locker room, I said it on the field.
57:43Shannon Sharpe:I'm tired of sugarcoating. I mean, we need to be better. At the end of the day, we need to protect Cam better. Simple. How do you guys feel as a defense when, knowing if you give up two touchdowns or whatever, that it's gonna be hard to win? Man, at the end of the day, it's about complementing the football. We have to play better team football. Game ball, AK. We, sometimes the offense can be playing good. Sometimes the defense, right? How can we play good as a team, pretty face? We not playing good team football right now, and it's showing. And Mike said it in practice Friday. We had freaking four fall starts Friday.
58:18Shannon Sharpe:We playing at home. We shouldn't have any false starts Don't care I'm tired of trading feelings. I'm tired of losing. That's what I'm tired of doing Ooh, he frustrated, boy Yeah, yeah, he talking about the offensive line He said, how we have that many false starts if we playing at home? Yeah, you shouldn't have any because the noise is on your side Or the lack of noise is on your side, especially when the offense is out there on the field Shouldn't be any issues I understand what he's saying and the key word that he kept saying over and over is complimentary. Offense play well. Defense play well.
58:54There has to be some type of balance on both sides. Now, you're not going to execute on every single drive. Not every single drive, but meet me halfway. Meet me halfway. Keep us off the field for a little bit. Don't go three and out 30 goddamn three times. I'm just throwing that number out there. But in general, defense is tired. Give us a chance to rest. Let's put together some drives some consecutive drives together, you know Give us a chance they're not even with the way they're playing They're not even giving themselves a channel win games
59:27Shannon Sharpe:Now the little position to get the number one pick again next this year. I mean in 26. Oh, yeah Am a dog and I'm a dog to get the back-to-back number one pick Hey, that's tough Well, you know how bad you already had You are in old Colts territory. Yeah. Because you know y 'all did that, right, Ocho? Who? The Bengals. Oh, yeah. The Bengals was bad. John O 'Carter, Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson. Hey, the Bengals was bad. I'm talking about back then. Who were you? You do realize I was in the league where y 'all were terrible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y 'all come a long way, Ocho. Yeah, we have.
1:00:11Shannon Sharpe:The Colts was terrible, too. Don't they the Patriots were terrible to terrible. Yeah, a lot of bad. They were bad. Hey, but but Tennessee got a long way to go on. You know how bad you Hey, you heard me, you know, I've had to be or save the team Hold on
1:00:34Shannon Sharpe:We
1:00:37Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to think who the last team to have back to back number one overall picks. So like we said, like the Bengals did with I think it was Kajana Carter and Big Daddy Dan Wilkinson.
1:00:58Shannon Sharpe:Damn! What happened? The same team has done it twice. Who was that?
1:01:10oh they would have
1:01:12Shannon Sharpe:done it twice back to back number one overall oh just the bangles
1:01:21Shannon Sharpe:oh you give me the years I'm probably gonna get it oh yeah with uh uh uh Tim Couch and uh the guy from Penn State oh Cleveland yeah Oh, yeah, Baker Mayfield and Miles Garrett. Oh. What was the defensive lineman? Courtney Brown. If I'm not mistaken, I think Courtney went one, and what you call him, went two. Didn't he? Yeah.
1:01:55Shannon Sharpe:Didn't LeBar go two to Washington after Courtney? Because they were on the same team, I think. Just like the Colts had the first two picks, and they took Steve Entmond, and they took the guy from Texas A &M.
1:02:13Shannon Sharpe:Quentin Corriott.
1:02:21Yeah, Quentin Brown, LeBron.
1:02:24Shannon Sharpe:To Washington, yeah. But they have back there, LeBron and Curtis Andrews. He was three. Wow. Chris Samuel, the offensive lineman. Yeah.
1:02:39Man.
1:02:40Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's tough, Ocho. And that's where you got to have real strong leadership because when one side is pulling their weight and the other side ain't pulling their weight, frustration starts to bubble. You got to have some real, real, real, real strong leadership. Yeah. Tennessee had some chances to win that game. They did. They did. They absolutely did. Yeah. They absolutely did. Hi, it's Karen in Georgia from My Favorite Murder. We cruised around L.A. in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and dove into the fascinating life of actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr. Want the full story? Take a listen. She starts dating Howard Hughes.
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