Best of NFL News Part 1: Giants get BIG MONEY John Harbaugh, & A.J. Brown must GO!

17 Jan 2026 · 1 h 1 min · 20 chapters

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In short

NFL news roundup and debate—Giants hiring John Harbaugh; coaching carousel (Mike McDaniel); Steelers/Mike Tomlin stepping down; plus player/strategy talk (49ers WR Demarcus Robinson; Deshaun Watson contract situation; weather game talk).

Guest backgrounds

The episode features sports commentary from two hosts (referred to as “Unk/Ocho” and “Joe”) plus a guest interview with 49ers wide receiver Demarcus Robinson. Robinson is a 49ers WR who discussed his playoff performance and the offense’s West Coast/“dagger” concepts.

Key claims

  • Eagles GM Howard Roseman says A.J. Brown is hard to replace; he’s a proven Pro Bowl/All-Pro/Super Bowl player.
  • The Athletic reports Steelers coach Mike Tomlin’s final team meeting included emotional reactions (T.J. Watt tears, Joey Porter Jr. hyperventilating, Aaron Rodgers sobbing) and a standing ovation.
  • NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero: Mike McDaniel is a hot candidate and has meetings set with Browns, Ravens, Falcons, Titans.
  • Harbaugh is reported to be nearing a Giants deal worth about $100M over five years with high staff/roster control expectations.
  • Robinson says his big game built trust with Brock Purdy and Kyle Shanahan, and he expects more targeted plays.

Notable examples

  • Robinson’s playoff stat line: 6 catches, 111 yards, 1 touchdown; he scored early on a “dagger” route and emphasized run-after-catch and blocking.
  • Weather segment: discussion of extreme cold for Bears-Rams playoff conditions and Stafford’s poor cold-weather record (1-8, 54.6% completion, 14 TD/11 INT).

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A.J. Brown's Trade Rumors

2:13 to 7:53

Discussion on the potential trade of A.J. Brown and the impact on the Eagles.

“Today's Eagle general manager, Howard Roseman, was asked whether he's open to trading A.J.”

Mike Tomlin's Emotional Farewell

7:54 to 13:19

Insights into Mike Tomlin's last meeting with the Steelers and players' reactions.

“But anyway, and I saw him, and I remember going up to him and saying, Coach, I'm sorry.”

Mike McDaniel's Future Prospects

13:20 to 14:00

Analysis of Mike McDaniel's potential coaching opportunities following his firing.

“Kyle was the offensive coordinator and he was the wide receiver coach.”

Analyzing the Dolphins and Offensive Creativity

14:00 to 16:00

Discussion about Mike McDaniel's offensive creativity and potential job changes.

“but do you think about the goddamn Dolphins?”

Head Coaching Candidates and Team Dynamics

16:00 to 19:00

Exploration of potential head coaching candidates and their impact on team performance.

“Mike McDaniels over there with the Eagles.”

Deshaun Watson's Career Prospects

19:00 to 22:00

A look into Deshaun Watson's injury issues and future with the Browns.

“But I don't really know a whole lot about the Titans.”

Big Decisions Await for NFL Coaches

22:00 to 23:10

Discussion on the implications of John Harbaugh's coaching decision on NFL dynamics.

“All I know for that kind of money, Ocho, I got to try to get something.”

Post-Game Insights from the 49ers

25:39 to 28:00

Insights from a 49ers player's perspective on handling team pressure.

“Complete disclosures available at public.com slash disclosures.”

Building Trust on the Field

28:00 to 31:20

Learn how a strong performance impacts player trust and game strategy.

“Oh, you getting the ball the rest of the day?”

Preparing for the Seahawks Rematch

31:20 to 37:00

Explore the strategies and expectations for facing the Seahawks again.

“You don't know if they're going to play because last week they hit us with the cover two.”
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Darren Waller's Firing Story

37:00 to 37:33

Hear about the surprising circumstances surrounding Mike McDaniel's firing.

“and the San Francisco 49ers advance to the divisional round to take on the arch nemesis, the Seattle Seahawks.”

Harbaugh's Dismissal and Future Candidates

37:33 to 41:26

Discuss the implications of John Harbaugh's firing and possible successors.

“Darren Waller went on Johnny Manziel's Glory Days podcast and told a story about how he and Mike McDaniels was talking one-on-one during the end of their season meeting when owner Stephen Ross walked in.”

Evaluating Offensive Coordinator Prospects

41:26 to 42:00

Analyze the potential of Clint Kubiak as a candidate for the Ravens.

“I remember Clint when he was a kid running and shagging balls and being the ball boy on the field for us.”

Analyzing the Ravens' Roster Needs

42:00 to 44:50

Discuss the Baltimore Ravens' current roster and areas needing improvement.

“They run the football, that West Coast system.”

Weather Impacts on NFL Games

44:50 to 46:50

Explore the effects of extreme weather conditions on NFL gameplay.

“You're not going to – I mean, you gave Andrews, what, three years, $40 million?”

Historic Cold Weather NFL Games

46:50 to 50:50

Reflect on past cold weather NFL games and their implications.

“If it's like that, they're going to be out there.”

John Harbaugh's New Deal with the Giants

50:50 to 55:50

Discuss John Harbaugh's contract with the Giants and its implications.

“Man, under these conditions, man, I don't know how you can get out there and play, man.”

Evaluating Harbaugh's Decision-Making

55:50 to 56:01

Analyze the reasons behind Harbaugh's choice to coach the Giants.

“The question is, the Tennessee Titans, they have Cam Ward.”

Analyzing NFL Teams' Situations

56:01 to 1:01:15

A deep dive into the quarterback situations and team dynamics of various NFL franchises.

“But he, it seems to me, he believed that situation with that roster.”

John Harbaugh's Impact on the Giants

1:01:16 to 1:04:50

Discussion on John Harbaugh's hiring and the implications for the Giants' future.

“The man was just a head coach for the last 18 years.”
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2:01Shannon Sharpe:Hey, guys, it's your favorite Unk here. Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you don't miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports. Stay for the stories.

2:15Shannon Sharpe:Today's Eagle general manager, Howard Roseman, was asked whether he's open to trading A.J. Brown, to which Roseman responded, it's hard to find great players in the NFL and AJ is a great player that's what we're going out looking for when we go out in free agency and the draft is trying to find great players who love football and he's that so that would be my answer

2:39the question is

2:40Shannon Sharpe:they understand it's hard to replace because I know what he is he's a proven commodity he's a pro bowl all pro Super Bowl winning player.

2:53Chad Johnson:Yeah.

2:54Shannon Sharpe:When he wants to be that.

2:55Chad Johnson:Yeah.

2:57Shannon Sharpe:And this year, for whatever reason, look, it's just hard. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know what motivates. I don't know what happened because he's like, when he won the Super Bowl, he's like, it wasn't fulfilling.

3:08Chad Johnson:Right. Well, if you're making money, you've been an all pro,

3:14Shannon Sharpe:you've gone to Pro Bowl, you win the Super Bowl, what is left? If I got a 30 plus million dollar contract, I'm a Pro Bowl player. I'm an all pro player and I'm a Super Bowl. And the Super Bowl isn't fulfilling. But I don't I don't really know what else there is.

3:31Chad Johnson:Yeah.

3:31Shannon Sharpe:If you play a sport, Joe, you Joe, you you an all NBA. Yeah. All star. You win a champ and you like and you make it 40 million dollars a year and you win the championship. And they come to you and say, Joe, how you feel? Like, I'm not. It's not as fulfilling as I thought.

3:49Chad Johnson:Nah, nah, I ain't going to say that. But I think, I ain't going to say that. I ain't going to say that. But I know for some guys, man, when they feel like they ain't balling or doing their thing out there, man, they want their stats over championship. Now, they may not come out and say it, but that's what they want. It's like, man, we want a championship, but, man, they ain't have but 20 yards. That's two catches. Hey, go look at my Super Bowl numbers.

4:19Shannon Sharpe:there ain't nothing but i got three rings and i'm gonna pass down to each of my kids

4:27Shannon Sharpe:hey hey that wasn't the game plan didn't call for shannon sharp to go haywire right i'm okay with that because at the end of the day i was making good money i've been a pro bowl player i was an all pro after you become an all pro after you become a pro bowl player the only thing left is won a championship is to solidify right make sure people know that all those catches and yards and everything that you was doing. Well, yeah, you did that, but how many games did you win? Did your stats go to winning? Look at my numbers. When I caught 400 yards or caught a touchdown, we won. That's all I cared about.

5:00Shannon Sharpe:I want to win. All that other stuff, that's why I didn't get up. Look, and I look back at it. I say, man, I could have easily gone to John and said, hey, bro, hey, I need five yards. But I ain't never asked him to throw me the ball. Right. So they know what I can do. I used to get upset, Joe. You know, they done bull-jotted around all game long. Now here come the fourth quarter. We down 14. You going to ask me what I like. Yeah, now they looking for you. I like for this game to be over, so I get my ass on that bus and get home. You should have asked me this in the first quarter. But y 'all would have spread it around.

5:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah. Let everybody touch it. Okay?

5:36Chad Johnson:Yeah. Keep doing what you're doing. Yeah, hey, look. Like I said, you know, some cats want to bog. Hey, look, I remember it too. are coming down. It's the last five to seven minutes of a game. Now, all of a sudden, everybody looking for you. They looking for Joe to get us up out this rut. What we been doing the whole game. Y 'all could have been giving me the ball. Yeah, so I understand, man.

6:00Shannon Sharpe:I understand. Hey, we going to run this over here with this pin? Hey, we going to run one-fold Joe. You at the top?

6:05Chad Johnson:Yeah.

6:06Shannon Sharpe:Hey, look.

6:07Chad Johnson:We ain't ran all damn games. Why y 'all want to run it now? Yeah. Yeah. I know exactly what you said. Yeah, we should have been reading this in the first, second quarter, man.

6:19Shannon Sharpe:What you looking for? I think your brother on the floor is sweet. He ain't sweet, but he died there. Thanos. Yeah.

6:30Shannon Sharpe:No, this is not Thanos in my lap. This is Teddy Bear in my lap. The Athletic released a story today on Mike Tomlin's final team meeting with the Steelers players and the surreal scene surrounding it. Mike Tomlin told his team, I think it's best for the organization for me to step down. T.J. Watt had tears welling in his eyes and kept repeating, no, no, no, as Tomlin told the team. Joey Porter Jr. was reportedly hyperventilating. Aaron Rodgers was sobbing and repeatedly saying, I'm sorry. The Steelers player gave Tomlin a standing ovation.

7:07Chad Johnson:That's what's up, man. That's when you know your guys respect you, bro.

7:11Shannon Sharpe:Yep.

7:12Chad Johnson:They respect the heck out that man, man, and what he's done for that organization.

7:16Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

7:17Chad Johnson:Yeah, and as a player, it definitely hurts you because, you know, you feel like you was a part of him getting out of there. Yeah, that's why those guys so hurt. They feel like, man, if we would have played at our highest peak, we could have avoided this situation. So, yeah, I can see why God's really taking it hard. I've done that.

7:40Shannon Sharpe:I remember as I got older, I remember seeing Coach Reeves because the gym I used to go to, the church that he attended, was right across the street. And I remember, like I was saying, it didn't close it down. But anyway, and I saw him, and I remember going up to him and saying, Coach, I'm sorry. He said, Shannon, he's the only one that never called me by my last name or called me 84. you'd always call me Shannon. He'd say, Shannon, what do you say? I said, Coach, I said, had I been the player that I became, maybe I could have saved the job.

8:17Chad Johnson:Right.

8:18Shannon Sharpe:And he just told me, he said, son, he said, that's nice of you to say, but you ain't got nothing to apologize for. He said, I'm proud that we drafted you. I'm proud of the player that you became. Same thing with Wade Phillips. I was that player. I had became that player, but I did all I could. I had, you know, 2 ,000 yards receiving, had like 180 catches. Yeah. It just wasn't meant to be. Like 178 catches, 168 catches. It just wasn't meant to be, Joe. And then we hit Mike. But I hate – because that happened on my watch.

8:52Chad Johnson:Yeah.

8:52Shannon Sharpe:What could I have done differently? And I know for certain, I'm not even sure, besides getting injured and having to take – I wasn't 100%. I do believe, had I became the player that I later became that ended up going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, I do believe I could have saved Dan's career. Yeah. I believe I could have saved him in Denver. Now, maybe at a late at any time, Mr. B. Maybe Mr. B. just wanted to go in a completely different direction.

9:17Chad Johnson:Right.

9:17Shannon Sharpe:Maybe so. Because Coach Reeves had been to three Super Bowls, lost the AFC Championship game, so it wasn't like he was losing, but he just wanted to go in a different direction. But it's tough. if you care. Now, if you don't care, some people are like, hey, players get cut all the time. I don't look at it like that.

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9:44Chad Johnson:Hey, look, my first year in Brooklyn, when I got traded to Brooklyn from Atlanta, I played Avery Johnson was our head coach. Great dude. Great dude. Yeah. Accountability. Like, he going to be on you. Like, he going to ride you hard, you know, tell you what the do's and don'ts. But, man, he was a hell of a coach, bro. I loved him as a coach. And for us to get off to such a slow start my first year in Brooklyn, I think it was kind of why he got fired. Because it happened on the off day for us. I'm at home. I'm watching ESPN. Ain't nobody called and been like, oh, we going to get rid of Avery Johnson today.

10:23Chad Johnson:I'm going to watch it on ESPN like everybody else. It come across breaking news. I'm like, damn. So yeah, I understand as a player, bro, you take heart to that because I'm like, yeah, such a dope coach, bro.

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12:57Shannon Sharpe:Former Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel has already become a hot coaching candidate after being fired just a week ago from the Dolphins. McDaniel is set to meet with the Browns, Ravens, Falcons, Titans, according to NFL Network's Tom Pelissero. Cleveland may get the first swing at interviewing McDaniel as their meeting is set for Monday. The team announced on social media. He previously worked for the Browns in 2014 as their wide receiver coach. Kyle was the offensive coordinator and he was the wide receiver coach. Ocho, do you like the idea of Mike McDaniel coaching? Absolutely not. Absolutely not.

13:39All the teams you just named, I don't like it. But I do like one that you didn't name. Now, I saw the report. I don't know if it was false or whether it was real or not, but I saw where he might have an opportunity to be the offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions. Now that I do like. Right. Mike McDaniels with his creative mind, I'm not saying he's Ben Johnson, but do you think about the goddamn Dolphins? What was that? Three years ago? Was it three years ago? Two years ago. Yeah, two years ago?

14:07Shannon Sharpe:When they went to the championship game, that was three years ago. They ended up losing to the 49ers. Listen, that offense and that creativity that he had with those receivers and the stuff that he was able to do with Tyreek Hill. Can you imagine him being able to have a mom around and doing all that, all that stuff? And Jamo. And you got Gibbs. I'm not sure if Montgomery is coming back. I'm not sure, you know, how that's going to work. But I would love I would love Mike McDaniels and that creativity he has offensively over there with the Lions. And obviously, I think, you know, Coach Mr. Campbell, I don't think he wants to.

14:42He's not going to call plays. No, he ain't calling plays. Yeah, he's looking for somebody to relieve him of those duties. But could Mike McDaniel revive Deshaun's career? He don't have the pieces over there, Unc. It'd be too much. So if Mike McDaniel goes to the Lions, his job is that much easier because of what you have at your disposal. I agree. I totally agree. And now your job as an offensive coordinator or head coach, whatever it may be with the Browns, now your job becomes that much more difficult because you have to do more with less. You know, the pendulum is uneven. Yeah. It's uneven.

15:34So now you're putting yourself behind the eight ball, going to a place where, okay, I have to be damn near perfect. Yeah. There's no margin for error. Yeah, man. No, no, no. That line job, yes. Hey, did you mention the Falcons?

15:52Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Also, if I read correctly today, I think John Harbaugh interviewed for the Falcons. Oh, I got another one for you, huh? I got another one for you. Nobody mentioned it. Mike McDaniels over there with the Eagles. Yeah. Hey, come on now. Come on, come on now. And I'm not going to mention that, but yeah, Mike McDaniels with the Eagles. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I think the thing is, look, he has a great offense in mind. And those guys, the McVeigh, the Shanahan's, he came from that system, that school, the LaFleurs, the Kevin O 'Connell.

16:35Shannon Sharpe:so we've seen that with those systems what they andy reed that west coast system the uh or hybrid thereof we've seen it work especially when you got talent um and so as you mentioned detroit has loads of talent um atlanta has talent i don't know would they want him to be the head coach but you know I'm sure he well yeah because he said to meet the Browns, Ravens, Falcons, Titans okay Ravens has a quarterback Titans have a quarterback right now there's kind of uncertainty they still have Cousins on the roster but they got a lot of money and a high draft pick, a top 10 pick tied up in Michael Penis Jr so it would be very very interesting but when you have the creative mind that Mike McDaniel has and we saw what they dialed up when Tyreek was healthy we saw what they dialed up what he was able to do with H.A.

17:32Shannon Sharpe:and so and Waddle and they had I forget what's the tight end on Joe we had him on he just came back this year Talpins? No from Dolphins Oh Darren Waller Darren Waller yeah yeah so I have some nice pieces somebody can go there, but they need a quarterback. And I'm reading today, they said they're looking for the coach and come in, you're not required to try to, well, this is what I can do with Tua. What the reports are being saying, it's like, no, you can, if you want to move on, we'll oblige you in that aspect. But I think from a talent, just pure talent, yeah.

18:27Shannon Sharpe:Falcons you look at their defense over the Lions no no no no no the Lions have a head coach he's interviewing for a head coaching job he's not interviewing for no offensive coordinator now if none of those become available yes yes yes if it's a head coaching job I mean Falcons gotta be knocking down the dope they gotta be knocking down the dope but John Harbaugh is out there I think he's first on everybody's list because he has 18 years experience he's won many divisions and he's gone to and won a Super Bowl so he's probably

19:10Shannon Sharpe:he's Miss America he's gonna get the first date if he wants it that's how they're looking at Nocho I like the Titans I think the Titans got a quarterback I think the Giants have a quarterback. But I don't really know a whole lot about the Titans. All I just know is they got Simmons over there. And he's special. Oh, yeah. He is. He ain't going to be that long, but go ahead. Yeah. You know, they got Calvin Ridley. He's coming back off an injury, the tight end. So they got some pieces. Pollard played well. But all things being equal, he had the interview with the Ravens. The Ravens need a lot of work defensively.

19:49Shannon Sharpe:We know what they got with Lamar. They need to fix that offensive line. Mainly right guard. They got to fix that, Ocho. They got to fix that. And they got to get Zay Flowers. I don't think Zay is going anywhere, Ocho. But Bateman this year was a no-show. He was a no-show.

20:15Damn. Hey, that's tough, man. That's tough. Because just speaking on Bateman's behalf, you can only do so much when the opportunity opens in themselves. You know? I agree. You can only do so much.

20:36Shannon Sharpe:Well, he didn't do that much. I get what you're saying. He didn't do that much, Ojo. So I think the thing is, look, the question is, I mean, are you going to go another year and not have Deshaun get on the field and not do anything? Now, obviously, he couldn't do anything. Last year, Ocho, he had an Achilles injury. They never activated him. He was, you know, he was scheduled to come, but they didn't bring him off the IR list. But what are you going to do? Right. You going to let him sit on the sidelines again for another$50 million? Right. Yeah.

21:11I mean, I think you at least try. Yeah. I'm not saying – I don't know. I hate saying never or always, but it's just I'm not sure that he'll be

21:31Shannon Sharpe:ever what he was when he was in Houston. And that was the thing, Ocho. That's why you gave up what you gave up. That's why you gave up the compensation because you, Ocho, he's 26, not 36. He was 26, but there's no way you could have foreseen. I don't know what they knew or what they didn't know. I mean, everything is speculation. Some say they did, some say they didn't. I don't know what they knew. I don't know what they knew, when they knew, what they, you know, I don't know. All I know for that kind of money, Ocho, I got to try to get something. Yeah. I got to.

22:12Shannon Sharpe:but those are some great choices for McDaniel. Yeah. Very good ones. Very good ones. Falcons loaded with talent. Ravens, the Ravens got the best quarterback out there on the market of the team that, that, you know, that's available. Obviously, you know, about a two time MVP. The Titans have a quarterback that they believe in. And I think, you know, Cam Ward played well. Calvin Ridley comes back maybe add some pieces yeah but it's going to be very interesting to see how this thing, I think somebody's waiting for the big domino to fall and I think that's John Harbaugh I think once Harbaugh decides where he's going to go I think all the other pieces will start to fall in place after he decides what he's going to do, so I think everybody's kind of waiting, you know, because nobody wants to jump the gun, what, man you had a chance of John Harbaugh and you went ahead and you hired this guy.

23:05Shannon Sharpe:So I think once that domino falls on Joe, I think everything else will kind of fall into place from there. Right. And then you'll see you know, but hey, maybe there's some coaches that's still in the postseason. Maybe the Rams DC. Who knows? Maybe the Clint Kubiak. I think gets an opportunity. Obviously they couldn't talk. They couldn't talk. Yeah, they could. I don't know if he interviewed though. Wait, they can't talk to a coach while he's still coaching, huh? They can if you're on the bye week. You could do Zoom interviews. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. But all the teams that's playing, so somebody from, say, the Patriots or, you know, the Steelers or whomever, anybody that played this weekend, no, you're not able to talk to them.

23:49Shannon Sharpe:If you're lost, you're able to talk now. But the teams that were on the bye week, you could have Zoom meetings. Right. So. When people turn to telehealth or weight loss, they're looking for real support. That's why more people are choosing orderlymeds.com. Orderlymeds connects you with real doctors and access to proven GLP-1 medications like semaglutide and terzeptatide. No guessing, just a more supportive experience, and all shipped directly to your door in discreet packaging. Do your research, ask questions, then visit orderlymeds.com slash podcast for an exclusive offer. That's orderlymeds.com slash podcast.

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25:47Shannon Sharpe:He won the Super Bowl with Kansas City in 2019. Sunday had a big game, had probably a career playoff high. I think this was a career playoff high. Six catches, a buck 11, and a touchdown. He got the party started early with the dagger route over the middle. Took that in, and then he delayed. It caught the post route for a touchdown. Had an outstanding game. Demarcus Robinson, wide receiver, San Francisco 49ers. Rob, there's a lot put on your guys' plate. You lose Debo. Ayuk is not there all year long. Kittle goes down. Now, yourself, Jennings, Parasol is out. Now it's time for you guys because a lot has been made.

26:27Shannon Sharpe:Purdy is good, but he's propped up by all these all pros and pro bowlers. So now it's you, it's Jennings, and the backup tight end, and you guys got to go out there and make plays. What was your mindset? because you know you're not going to – Debo's been gone. You knew IU's not coming back, but you thought you would at least have Kittle. What was you guys' mindset going in into a hostile environment and to come away with a victory? I think the guys, man, we knew it was at stake, you feel me? Them boys had to go out and play hard just to get that dub just so we can get another game on the road.

26:59And it's never easy to get a win on the road, but those guys came in, man. We fought all together. As soon as Kittle was down, we knew Jake had to come in, make a couple plays, and them boys showed resiliency. yesterday for real. What did that feel like, having a game like that, letting the 49ers, letting your quarterback know that you can count on me, especially in situations like that, in important games that actually matter for you to have that type of game? What did that feel like? I mean, listen, honestly, as a receiver, I ain't never had no success in the goddamn playoff here. Have I been there?

27:34No. What is that feeling like, man? It felt good, man. to know them boys had trust in me. Purdy and Kyle Shanahan, man. It felt good to feel like they had trust in me. You know, they wouldn't be calling those plays to put me in those positions to get me the ball to know I'm going to do what I can do and go down there and score a touchdown. So it really felt good just for them boys to get some trust in me, for real.

27:57Shannon Sharpe:Oh, I played for his dad. Oh, you make that play early? Oh, you done. Oh, you getting the ball the rest of the day? Yeah, you good. Once you made that play on that dagger? Uh-huh. Do y 'all call it dagger or what y 'all call it over? No, we call it dagger. I know what you're talking about. We call it dagger, too. Okay. I know what you're talking about. And so once you made that play, I said, oh, yeah. Oh, they're going to feed him. Yeah, and coming back. And you know what the funny thing about? When you have a performance like you did in that game, what you think that thing will look like in the next one?

28:24That's what I'm saying. They're coming back to you. They're going to have stuff already drawn up specifically for you to do. They already – let Shanahan already know what you do well. Mm-hmm. So he's going to add that, and he's going to throw something on top of it because Purdy knows you're going to make the play. And subconsciously, when you have a great game like that, the quarterback going to come to you when you least expect it. That's what I'm saying. Just the way the game flows. That's why I needed that type of game, to go and build that trust with him, let him know, hey, man, as we keep going forward, I got you, bro.

28:52If them boys ain't in here, you ain't got nobody to lean on, I'm the guy. Come see me. Yeah. Really?

28:58Shannon Sharpe:I mean, look, he ain't got no choice now. I mean, he's lost Kittle, and you and Jennings are, you know, you're his wide receivers. is you're his most trusted. And so now, hey, and it's not, look, you guys just played them last game of the season. So you know what type of game it's going to be. You know what's out there. They got Spoon and Wollin. For real. Hey, you know what's in front of you. All Troy and I ain't got to tell you nothing. That was some good DBs. This is the first time y 'all played them. Uh-huh. That was some good DBs, man. I ain't going to lie to you. That was some good DBs. We going to go out there and do what we do though.

29:29Shoot. We ain't scared. We ain't backing down. Now it's time, shit. Hey, you one step closer. For real? That's what I'm talking about. Step closer. Hey, you were talking hella shit out there, man. Somebody pitched you off or something? Nah, shit. Hey, Coach O without talking to me. So I'm like, you see what's going on, Coach? These boys can't hold me, for real? Like, oh, you know, ain't no need to yell. You see, it's on the field, Coach. Right.

29:54Shannon Sharpe:Hey, you talking, you see I'm giving your boy that work. That work. Your boy in 2-7, oh, he got that work. They had to get him up You know both of them was on him, right? Yeah, they had to get him up off of me. The first drive. You can't do nothing with it wrong. No, you can't do nothing with it, man. You better call somebody else, call back up. For real. But did you know you were going to have this type of input going into the game? So, like, the plan was to kind of get me the ball. I was way in the playbook this week more than any other week. Because Ricky wasn't up. So I'm like, okay, D-Bug going to be able to feed me a little bit.

30:31So, you know, you go through it in practice. You go all through the routine plays and stuff like that. But I ain't know it was just going to be as fast as it was. Right. Yeah, that was second play of the game. 60-yarder, fourth play of the game. Yeah. Touchdown.

30:43Shannon Sharpe:But here's the thing. What makes me upset is that they feed me all week long, and then we come to the game, and I don't get no honey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, I'm out there bull jiving the ride. You know they ain't throw me no passes, and now y 'all feed me. See, why y 'all do me like this? Y 'all could have had my mind. My mind ain't really where it's supposed to be right now. Yeah, yeah. That's how I felt versus Seattle the first time we played on board, man. I'm like, dog, because we kind of had it drawn up for me to get a couple passes. But you know how the game go and then coach change it up a little bit.

31:11And then, you know, you never know what you're going to get out of that, man. So, shoot, really, you know, you got to stay ready for that moment whenever that ball do come. Yeah, and the fact that you guys are playing the Seahawks again, you're familiar with their defense. Do you see any problems in general for you from an individual standpoint, not a team collectively, but from an individual standpoint, you know, whether it be Witherspoon, whether it be Brother Woolen, is there anyone out there that you would see poses any not threat, but you know where you know, okay, you know what, I got to tie my shoes up tight, I got to come to play Nah, I mean, that's our, that's every game Them boys could have been like 2-7 last week That boy caught two picks, you know what I'm saying So you never know what you're going to get, you never know how they're going to play, if it's going to be them boys coming out being physical, you know, Reed Woolen, that boy he bigger size physical cap, so long, long arms, you know, you never know what you're going to get.

31:59You don't know if they're going to play because last week they hit us with the cover two. I don't think we was really even expecting the cover two. You feel me? So they played cover two. We played them the first time or the last game of the season. But so we got to be ready for whatever they throw at us for real.

32:11Shannon Sharpe:But see, that's what the times, you know, hey, and the run block and see, I got to get physical with y 'all because see, y 'all be trying to get physical in these fans. So I know, I know how Kyle lives. Play for, like I said, play for his dad. He has a lot of his dad's similarities and a lot of that coaching staff, Bobby T, the running back Hey, if you don't do No, if you don't do, and a wide receiver In that offense, if you don't Do no blocking in the run game Get on the sideline

32:40Shannon Sharpe:I don't give a damn who you are For real though You got the blocking in that system Cause CMC gonna get His touches Oh, you already know that Yeah, he getting his touches, so you gotta They making everybody look good right now Now we got to spread that thing around. We just lost Kittle, man. So, trust me, Lee, I'm ready for another one against these boys right here. Good rivalry. Yeah, Kittle, I'm so – hey, man, I'm so sorry you down. Man, for real. You put your boy up. You know what I'm saying? I'm up. I'm here this week again. Don't play with him. But also, I think the thing that really helps, and you have to have this in the West Coast, your receiver's got to be run after the catch.

33:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Because it's all about getting the ball in the receiver's hand And look, ain't a whole lot of deep throws, you know, go by nine balls. It's a lot of shallow crosses. It's a lot of daggers. It's a lot of overs. It's a lot of stuff where digs, end cuts, where they're expecting you to spin out of a tackle. And get up out of there. Yeah, yeah. That's what I did last week, yeah. That's how they was using on deep ball, too. A lot. Get on the ball and get up field. That's all it is right now. Or smoke screen, bubble screen. Mm-hmm. What is, because you're familiar. they probably have different terminology in Kansas City, but this is basically the same system.

33:58Shannon Sharpe:It's the West Coast system. It came out of Coach Walsh. Same thing. Mike Shanahan, all that. So it's been paired. Maybe they call it green. Maybe you call it orange or blue or whatever you call it, but it's pretty much the same principle. Same thing. That's what I was saying about. That's why I came over here from when I was in L.A. last year. Him and Sean got kind of the same kind of route tree and stuff like that. They kind of terminology all the same, so it wasn't really that hard to pick up on the playbook. It's just, you know, a few things here and there. They switch up the verbiage on it.

34:24But it's basically the same type of offenses, for real.

34:29Shannon Sharpe:Man, you seem so excited because, like, it probably caught you off guard. Like, you got to be ready for the moment. Because you don't know when that moment's going to happen. But you got to be ready for it when it does happen. No, for real. I was ready, boy. I was ready. I seen that ball in that alley. I said, oh, it's not what I'm through with that ball. Man, I got up here, cut back, cut back. I see him rallying. Let me go and get out. You ain't finna get that ball off me. Yeah, they tried to get it up out of me. They tried to get it up out of me. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. And then y 'all ready to delay.

34:57Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all ready to play. Actually ready to play. You make it like you go block. You go block. Stock, stock. A cue. Yeah, yeah, I'm a stalker. I'm stalker. Ah, no, I'm going to the post. Let me get that. Need it. He's too late, man. Touchdown, man. Let me do my dance on y 'all. Yeah. Oh, that's dope, man. I'm happy for you, bro. It's one thing about having a game like that, man. man, D-Rod, boy, it gives you so much confidence, bro. For real. So much confidence. It just – it had you walking different. That's real. It had you talking different. Mm-hmm. And you're going to the next game, and you're expecting to have that same type of performance.

35:30So whenever those opportunities do present themselves, and you already got that confidence rolling, man, ain't nothing out there, man. Ain't nothing out there going to be able to stop you. So, man, I'm happy for you. And I'm excited. I'm excited for this game because it's going to be a good one. Well, y 'all going to be it, man. Y 'all popping out. Where y 'all at this weekend? Who y 'all watching? Oh, I'm, I'm, listen, I'm going to be watching. I'm going to be way in Brazil, but I'm going to be watching. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. For sure. For sure. Tune in.

35:54Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Rob, I'm going to tell you, this is what you tell C-Mac, because this is what I used to tell TD. Hey, man, they in cover two. Run their ass out about it. I'm trying to tell you. That's all we got to do. Hey, we can't throw them out of cover two. Hey, online, run their ass out of this cover two. For real, bring no safety down now. Bring no safety down. Yeah. That's what we got to do. That's all we got to do Run them up out of this Cause if you don't run them up out of it They going to play cover too now You ain't getting no pass You ain't getting nothing over the top of that And I ain't really trying to cover The only thing really that's open Is try to fit it in between Try to hold the corner up And then try to run the sail in behind them Or run the square out the deep Nah, nah, nah Run their ass out I don't need a safety down I need it me in here That's all I'm asking for Get that running game going and if they ain't no, put that ball in the air.

36:46I'm going to do what I do. Yeah.

36:48Shannon Sharpe:That's what I'm talking about. Man, congratulations on an unbelievable game. Six catches, 111 yards on the touchdown. He started the game off the second play of the game, goal 60, and then he ends up catching a touchdown. They score a touchdown late in the ball game, and the San Francisco 49ers advance to the divisional round to take on the arch nemesis, the Seattle Seahawks. Yes, sir. That game is going to be played on Sunday. That game is played Saturday, excuse me, Saturday night. So good luck, D-Rob. Yes, sir. And we'll see you down the road, man. Man, I appreciate y 'all, man. Glad y 'all had me on here, man.

37:19I appreciate it. Oh, yeah. Tell Kyle I said what's up. I will do, man, for sure. All right. And Bobby T. All right.

37:25Shannon Sharpe:All right. For sure, y 'all. All right. Appreciate it, man. Thanks for coming on. Mm-hmm.

37:33Shannon Sharpe:Darren Waller went on Johnny Manziel's Glory Days podcast and told a story about how he and Mike McDaniels was talking one-on-one during the end of their season meeting when owner Stephen Ross walked in. McDaniel had literally just told Waller that he wants him back in 2026. Ross joined in the conversation for a bit. Then the conversation got quiet, and Waller got the sense that he should leave the room. He checked his phone 20 minutes later, and Mike McDaniel was fired. I was at the scene of the crime. The NFL is a wild business, Joe. That's how it go? It's cut through like that, huh? I didn't.

38:09Shannon Sharpe:Look.

38:14Shannon Sharpe:Dan Reeves and when Coach Reeves and John was having their issues, Dan was like Coach Landry, run the football. We're not going to put the ball in harm's way. We're going to try to play great defense. And then Roger Stalback was there. Roger would win it. Roger the Dodger. And that's why John had so many comebacks. because we wouldn't do anything for four quarters, for three and a half quarters, and the game would still be close, and John would win it in the end. It is. It's really tough. But I've never seen a situation like this. Normally, hey, the owner calls you to his office. Right. Like the owner walked in to the coach's office when he's doing end-of-season interviews, exit interviews.

39:09he

39:10Shannon Sharpe:yes that's that's really wow normally they call you to their meeting and call you to their office or the general manager you know they had a conversation we're going in a different direction but I've never heard of a situation like this Steve Bajardi had a conversation I think we're talking about Steve no where he called John Harbaugh on the phone he said I thought it would be

39:39Shannon Sharpe:an anatomy move like the man had just left and they turned around and meet me back at the office in an hour. It was just like, hey, you're going to do what you're going to do. It was tough.

39:55Shannon Sharpe:Telling somebody he's fired is not easy. Right. He's had success. He's the winningest coach. The organization is only 30 years of age, but he's winning his coach in their young tenure. You got, look, you got Lamar. So it's a very appealing job. You got Lamar. You got a quarterback. You got a two-time MVP quarterback.

40:21Chad Johnson:Is his contract up? Is he ready?

40:23Shannon Sharpe:Is he feeling sound? No, no, no. His contract's not up, but they got to do something. He's got like a$75,$76 million cap here. And Steve Bishotti has made it abundantly clear he wants Lamar. If Lamar wants that. If not, he'd say, hey, we'll play it out and move on.

40:43Shannon Sharpe:But he wants it because he knows. Steve, look, Steve is very mad at the fact. He laid it on the table. He said, look, I want to do this thing for another 10 years. I'm 65. I said, I'm looking at it from 75. Now, if we had a couple of bad seasons when I'm at that age, I'm probably going to sell the team. If we had a couple of good seasons, I'm probably going to keep holding on. But anyway, he said, I'm looking to move on. He said, I'm not going to get this thing. It's not going to my family. he said it caused too much problems. I've seen it turn families against each other and that's not going to happen.

41:09Shannon Sharpe:I believe that abundantly clear.

41:12Chad Johnson:So who do you think he's going to bring in?

41:18Chad Johnson:What's a good candidate?

41:19Shannon Sharpe:LeBron mentioned the name Clint Kubiak. Clint Kubiak is the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. I played with Clint's dad. I remember Clint when he was a kid running and shagging balls and being the ball boy on the field for us. He couldn't have been no more than like six or seven. Yeah. Maybe eight.

41:47Shannon Sharpe:His dad was my quarterback, was the backup to John, and then he was my offensive coordinator. So I've been knowing them, and he's really good. You see the imagination that he has with Seattle's offense. You saw what JSN did in Jigba. They run the football, that West Coast system. You got to run it. Then they play action pass. And he has a quarterback. His quarterback in Baltimore is better than the quarterback that he has in Seattle. So I can just imagine with his imagination and that quarterback and that running back to be able to run the football like they can run it and play action off of that.

42:26Chad Johnson:Yeah.

42:29Chad Johnson:What did Dick Henry got another year over there? Got two years.

42:33Shannon Sharpe:Two years. And he's 52nd. He was second last year in rushing over 19 – two years ago with over 1 ,900 yards. He was second in the league in rushing this year with like almost 1 ,600 yards. He still got tread on the tire. He still got tread on the tire. Oh, yeah.

42:47Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah.

42:48Shannon Sharpe:And so I'm –

42:53Shannon Sharpe:They got to – but they got – hey, they got to get – the number one thing they got to get, whoever – whatever guard is available in free agency, the Baltimore got to sign it. They got to get that right guard up out of there.

43:05Chad Johnson:He killing Lamar.

43:08Shannon Sharpe:He killing Lamar and the running game.

43:14Shannon Sharpe:And they need some defense, Joe.

43:17Chad Johnson:Yeah, they do. They can put some points over, but boy, they can't stop nothing. They can't stop nobody.

43:22Shannon Sharpe:They can't stop nobody. They can't close games out.

43:25Chad Johnson:It's definitely a Tyson job, though.

43:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah.

43:28Chad Johnson:You know, having Lamar and Henry back there, I'm surprised. You know, ain't no coaches jumped on that situation already.

43:36Shannon Sharpe:Well, I think maybe some of the coaches that they're interested in are still in the playoffs, so you can't interview anybody right now. You had a window, the Broncos and the Seahawks, so you could interview coaches in that window via Zoom, obviously. But if your team was in the playoff, you can't talk until after your season's over. So now there'll be another break in between the NFC, AFC, between the championship games and the Super Bowl. So there's a dead weekend there in which you can interview via Zoom for a job. But, yeah, I'm – you got to get the right coach in this situation because you got too much at stake.

44:21Shannon Sharpe:You got too much riding on it. You got Lamar Wright smack dab in his prime window. You got Derrick Henry that has a couple more years left. You got to get this thing right. Yeah. Get this thing right. Because you look, Drake May. Yeah. You got Josh Allen. You got C.J. Stroud. You got Bo Nix. You got Trevor Lawrence. So it's not getting any easier.

44:45Chad Johnson:No, sir. It's not. But they got some talent, boy. They got some talent over there.

44:51Shannon Sharpe:they got some offensive talent I don't know how much defense talent they got

44:55Chad Johnson:they need some help defensively

44:57Shannon Sharpe:I like State Flowers I like Henry obviously I like Lamar

45:07Shannon Sharpe:I'm surprised that what they did with Andrews because basically they're saying bye to likely yeah yeah Yeah. Man. Yeah. You're not going to – I mean, you gave Andrews, what, three years, $40 million? Isn't that what he signed for? Yeah, it's – you're not bringing him back because somebody's going to pay him big money.

45:34Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah.

45:35Shannon Sharpe:I thought they would let Andrews go and then keep likely. Three years,$40 million. Three years,$40 million, yeah. So I was surprised by that move, but they need defense. They need pass rushers. They need pass rushers. They need them bad, too. Really bad.

45:56Chad Johnson:Yeah, they gave – what they was in defensive – Near the bottom. Defensive rating, they was near the bottom this year? Mm-hmm. The two cornerbacks gave up the most yardage.

46:10Shannon Sharpe:Them boys were getting smoked out there, boy. But when you can't rush the pass, I mean, what are your options? You can't hold up all day, and they couldn't rush the quarterback. They couldn't get the quarterback off his mark. So the quarterback's just back there patting the ball, patting the ball, patting the ball. So it's tough.

46:31Shannon Sharpe:The Bears-Ram playoff game is expected to be one of the coldest games in NFL history. Joe, look at this video of blizzard conditions happening right now coming off Lake Michigan. 60-mile-an-hour winds, heavy snows are leading to nearly no visibility.

46:49Chad Johnson:Man, can't nobody play no football in there, huh? If it's like that, they're going to be out there. They're going to be playing in this? Hell yeah. Man, come on, man.

47:00Shannon Sharpe:The wind chills are expected to relane between 0 and minus 10 degrees throughout the day on Sunday. Wind gusts up to 20 miles an hour. The Rams haven't played in a game below 50 all season. According to NFL stats, Matthew Stafford in bad weather games with the Rams, cold, rain, or snow, 1-8, 54.6 completion percentage, 14 touchdowns, 11 interceptions. Oh, Joe, excuse me. Look at this. We're going to turn the sound. Listen to the sound, Joe.

47:31Chad Johnson:All right.

47:36All right. I'm cold.

47:40Chad Johnson:I'm cold right here.

47:44Chad Johnson:Hey, ain't no way they finna play in that. Hold on, hold on. You think the stands gonna be filled up too? Absolutely. Pat.

47:56Shannon Sharpe:Oh, no. Because fans get a kick out of says, I was at that game. When you played the Ice Bowl, when it was 27-30, you go back and look at Cincinnati-San Diego. I think that was 1981. Windchill was like 59. Go back and look at the Chargers against Cincinnati. I think the wind chill was like 40, 50 degrees below zero. What was the wind chill?

48:20Chad Johnson:Hey, if they playing in anything close to this, what I'm looking at, I got the Bears. I'm taking the Bears this weekend. The wind chill was minus 59.

48:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I remember. Joe, 1981, the Chargers played Cincinnati. Wind chill, minus 59.

48:45Chad Johnson:That man said 1981.

48:47Shannon Sharpe:I remember the game. That's what I told the Chargers. Because the Chargers had just beat the Dolphins. Kellen Winslow had a historic game, unbelievable, end up blocking a field goal. They won. They had to carry him off the field. And for his Herculean effort, go to Cincinnati, 59 below. They got thumped. I think they lost 27-0. 59. What was the final score? Below. 27-7. Okay. Oh, so that's why you don't remember. You was just being born.

49:21Chad Johnson:I was born in 81. I don't know what's going on. Oh, you played in weather like that before?

49:28Shannon Sharpe:I remember that game.

49:30Chad Johnson:I'm saying you done played in something like that?

49:33Shannon Sharpe:I think one of the coldest games I played, we played in Green Bay in 96. It was about 13 degrees, minus 13. And we played the Chiefs in the divisional round in 90. It was in 98, so it was probably January of 98. What was the temperature in 96? It was December of 96.

49:55Chad Johnson:Hey, what is it like getting hit in that type of temperature? What did that ground feel like?

49:59Shannon Sharpe:Man, that thing like on cement. Joe, I ain't going to lie, Joe. I'm glad Mike didn't see me. I had construction gloves on. I wasn't. Oh, but I caught a pass. I caught the well pass. They threw me.

50:17Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Boy, I couldn't even imagine, huh? Minus 17. Minus 17 in Green Bay, right? Yeah. What was the Kansas City one?

50:29Chad Johnson:Hey, how the bands ain't got no dome over there, man? You take away the advantage. Man, man, come on, man. We don't get to see those.

50:38Shannon Sharpe:Minnesota used to play outside before they got the dome. And, boy, it's cold in Minnesota. Yeah. The Chiefs was January of 98. No, it was January of 99. January of 99.

50:54Chad Johnson:Man, under these conditions, man, I don't know how you can get out there and play, man. Not in that type of weather we just seen.

51:01Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe, you got to go out there. We had no sleep. Hey, I had to show them guns. I had that vest lead on the outside and the face. You know what I'm saying?

51:10Chad Johnson:Hey, listen, so why dudes be coming out there with their shirts off and all that warming up before the game when it's like that? I don't know what them fools thinking.

51:17Shannon Sharpe:I ain't going out there until I absolutely have to. I'm not going out there. I ain't trying. I'm competing against my opponent and his weapon. So I am not going out there until I absolutely have to. It's easier to play in it than practice in it. is when it's practice, when you don't have those heated benches and you don't have the adrenaline going. Right, right, right.

51:42Chad Johnson:Oh, my gosh. I can't even imagine, boy. Hey, bud. You say hi. Look at this. What's up, big fella?

51:53Shannon Sharpe:Tell him your name. Tell him my name, Teddy Bear. He, listen.

52:01Chad Johnson:He, hey, look, he have the daddy on.

52:03Shannon Sharpe:Boy, is he? Man, as soon as I came through the door, man. Man, Titus done ripped my Montclair jacket. Oh, man. I said, boy. But, yeah, them jokes here. Once I come home, they ain't got nothing to do with auntie no more.

52:25Shannon Sharpe:He said, I got my pajamas on. He said, daddy, this place, my bedtime. But, oh, yeah, Joe, that's the whole thing. That's the thing why if you're a cold-weather team, you want to get home field. I want the Rams. You play in that dome.

52:41Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

52:42Shannon Sharpe:You played in Carolina. It was a little cold, but you don't know cold yet.

52:46Chad Johnson:Right. Not that Chicago cold.

52:48Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about I want it to be cold. The sun come up with an overcoat on. That's not cold enough, Joe. That's not cold enough. If they're going to be playing in that, that's damn sure what it's going to be. Yeah. You see statues got overcoats and scullies on them.

53:06Chad Johnson:No, man. No, man.

53:13Shannon Sharpe:The breaking news overnight, Joe, that John Harbaugh was in talks and made his decision. It is the New York football Giants. Jordan Schultz reports Harbaugh is expected to be worth five years, a hundred million, yes, five years, a hundred million dollars, $20 million per year. What the reports were, he was looking to get that$20 million per. He was looking to get$10 million for his staff, and he wanted total control of the roster. I don't know what all he got, but the reports are it is a five-year deal worth an estimated$100 million. I don't know if he got the$10 million for his staff support.

53:49Shannon Sharpe:I don't know if he has total control of his roster. But 10 years is, I mean, excuse me,$100 million is a lot of money. I think only Andy Reid is$20 million per year. Eight years ago, John Gruden signed a 10-year,$100 million contract with the Las Vegas Raiders, which raised eyebrows. According to Connor Hughes of SNN, in the days before telling the Giants he was going to take their head coaching job, John Harbaugh sought out and contacted positional coaches from Brian Dayball's staff to pick their brains on the state of the roster. Several of the coaches had never spoken to Harbaugh before, and they told SNY they talked for about 30 minutes about the ins and outs of the team.

54:33Shannon Sharpe:When Harbaugh was fired, well, whatever the case may be, Steve Machado, when he was fired, relieved of his duties, I felt someone of his stature was looking for a team that had a quarterback. That is the quickest way. Look at Chicago. Ben Johnson took that job. What did they have in place? a quarterback. The New England Patriots, when Mike Grable took that job, what did they have in place? The quickest way to get to the playoffs, to get on the winning track, is to have a quarterback. They believe they have their quarterback. John Harbaugh, more importantly, believes they have their quarterback.

55:06Shannon Sharpe:That is why he took this job so quickly. Joe, what do you think? You like the hire?

55:14Chad Johnson:I like the hire, but I'm wondering with Harbaugh, do you think that was the best quarterback situation? Do you think that's the real reason and why he took that job off. I mean, obviously, they paid him what he wanted, but, I mean, it's... Honestly, I think he could have got that from anywhere. But that's, I mean, if he could have got that anywhere, it's a lot of enticing jobs out here, man, with a lot of talent. Versus, you know, he got Scatterboo and the receiver, them dudes coming out with extremely, you know, unfortunate injuries. You know what I mean? Right, yes, yes. I was, I'm wondering from a talent perspective, Do you think that was the best team that he probably could have went to?

55:53Chad Johnson:Okay, here are the teams. Arizona, they don't have a quarterback.

55:57Shannon Sharpe:They're going to move on from Calumard. They have Jacoby Bursette. The question is, the Tennessee Titans, they have Cam Ward. But he, it seems to me, he believed that situation with that roster. You look at the defense, Brian Burns. You look at Dexter Lawrence. You look at Abdul Carter, who they took very high. They had Wondell Robinson that came off a great season. I get what you're saying about Malik Nabors, but he should be up to speed because that injury happened so early in the season. He should have a full recovery. Scatterboot, we don't know about that. We'll see how that thing, it seems like it's progressing.

56:29Shannon Sharpe:Now, they do need some offensive line because the problem is, he took, before Jackson Dart got in there, he was taking a lot. Russ was the quarterback. That sacked a lot. Now, you're going to have to protect Dart, and D 'Arts going to have to protect himself from taking unnecessary hits. You're not a running back. You're not Derrick Henry. So you need to get that thought out your head. You need to be smart. Don't be afraid to run out of bounds. Don't be afraid to get on the turf. Sometimes you have to know when the journey is over. But if you look at the Jets, you like the Jets? They don't have a quarterback.

57:03Chad Johnson:No, no, no.

57:04Shannon Sharpe:And that franchise is dysfunctional. The Giants has been dysfunctional for a period of time. But all things being equal, I trust the Giants in that situation, and I don't know what, maybe it's just, I'm hoping. The Giants situation more than I trust the Jets. Okay, the Falcons. I think, me personally, I think the Falcons have more of the talent, but they still have undecided issues at the quarterback position. So you look at the teams that have openings, I think the Giants have the best quarterback situation. Do they have more talent than Atlanta? I don't believe they do. But they have a quarterback, and it doesn't matter how much talent you got.

57:47Shannon Sharpe:You better have a quarterback that can pull the trigger.

57:51Chad Johnson:Right. Okay. I understand that part. I just feel like it's a lot of other teams, especially when you look from the defensive side. I know you got to have a quarterback. You got to have guys in skilled positions. You got to put points on the board. If you can't stop nobody, man, you're going to be in trouble. I don't know how great the Giants' defense was. So, you know, that's probably what more I'm looking toward. You know, I'm like, okay, what is their defense like?

58:16Shannon Sharpe:Well, if you could predict, the best way if your defense is subpar is to keep them off the field. If you've got a quarterback that's turning the ball over, if you can't run the football, that is the quickest way to put your defense back on the field. Now, you could be just porous and not be scheme schematically or don't have the pieces in place are a lot of Cowboys. Cowboys offense is sensational. What you trying to say? The Cowboys offense is sensational. It's your defense, whether it's schematically. Now, look, you've had a history of this, Joe. For the last decade, you've gone through a ton of different defensive coordinators and with the same results.

58:56Shannon Sharpe:Your offense is in the top five. Your defense is in the bottom five. That's not a good recipe. But I'm looking at just the coach. just now. If Green Bay was available, I would tell him to take his ass to Green Bay. Right, right. Because they're going to get Micah back at some point. Now, I don't know if he's going to start week one, but there's a chance he's going to play at least let's just say for the sake of argument, somewhere between 11 and 12 games if he stays healthy. They might start him on the pup list and then he'll have to miss the first four games. But you look at them defensively, you look at the offensively, their quarterback, they got Jordan Love, they got receivers, they got a running game, they got a nice offensive line, but of the positions that were available.

59:36Shannon Sharpe:Miami, you like Miami? Their defense isn't that good. They don't have no quarterback. They're going to move on from Tua, it seems like. I like Ed Chan. I love him. He's sensational. But they need offensive line help. They got Waddle. So we'll see. I like Darren Waller at tight end. He's shown me enough that he still has juice in the orange, and he should come back. But I'm just looking at it from a standpoint of teams that have available coaching positions. the Giants have the best quarterback situation based on what I saw this year now that could change Cam Ward could come back and have a stellar sophomore season he got hurt yeah yeah and we don't know I don't think it's I don't think it's bad uh maybe if they had five or six more games maybe he missed a game and he comes back but of the the coaching the coaching vacancies that available I like the Giants I like the Falcons overall but I like the Giants quarterback and like I said, I think I laid out pretty good, Chad, if you look at the team, look at where the Patriots were last year.

1:00:39Shannon Sharpe:Now, they're in the division around the playoff. Look at the Bears. In the division around the playoff, both teams playing at home. Now, they did go out. The Patriots signed Stephon Diggs in free agency. They got big Milton Williams. They brought some guys in and so you're like, okay, and you can do some things. I think the Giants are going to do that. Now, I don't know where they are cap-wise, but they definitely need some offensive line help to make sure they can protect Jackson Dart. But I like this hire. It's a proven commodity. Ain't no guesswork. What I wonder if he can do, he's never been a head coach.

1:01:18Shannon Sharpe:The man was just a head coach for the last 18 years. I think he's a proven commodity.

1:01:24Chad Johnson:Yeah, I agree. I think it's a great hire for the Giants. Obviously, you want to be able to keep Jackson Dart on the field. Hopefully, you know, he starts to be a lot smarter going into year two. But, I mean, they got to put – they got to get a defense on that can help the offense. Obviously, like you say, you want the offense to stay on the field so the defense don't have to work as hard. But for the most part, it looked like Harbaugh wanted more control than anything.

1:01:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Look, when you've been in that position, Joe, and you've had some control, it's hard for you to go to another situation and have no control. Right. Especially after you've been at the job for an extended period of time. He's been under task for 18 years. And to go in most coaches, that's the hardest thing. I mean, when you look at Coach Belichick, Coach Belichick has had total control. For me, it's going to be hard for me to see him going somewhere where he has little to no control. Right, absolutely. And so I think that's the thing. And look, the reports are Mike Tomlin's not looking to coach, but I like Mike Tomlin in Atlanta.

1:02:30Chad Johnson:Oh, man. I like Mike Tomlin in Atlanta. Man, you know how these people embrace Mike Tomlin if he came here to Atlanta. Oh, we're going to have to find him a quarterback, though. Yes, for sure. And I think as far as there's no question in my mind of the openings that's available,

1:02:49Shannon Sharpe:they have the best talent. Man. They got better talent than the Cardinals. Now, I like the Cardinals. Now, look, you look at what the Cardinals got. They got McBride, who arguably the best tight end in football. Right, right. They got Wilson, who came on the show like gangbusters. Marvin Harrison Jr., got Nick this year, kind of regressed a little bit, but I think he's talented. You get an offensive line, you plug a few pieces in defensively, but they don't have what Atlanta has. No problem. You look at B. John Robinson, you look at Drake London, you look at Kyle Pitts, you're going to have to sign him back.

1:03:20Shannon Sharpe:You have to bring him back. They have pieces. And defensively, oh, my goodness.

1:03:26Chad Johnson:Yeah, man. That defensive line they got is a monster, man. Yes.

1:03:32Shannon Sharpe:But at the end of the J-J, look at – we're going to talk about this. Look at every quarterback that's in the playoffs. Only one was drafted outside of the first round. You got number one overall pick Matt Stafford. Number one overall pick Caleb Williams. You see? Number three pick – and number two pick is C.J. Stroud. Number three pick is Drake May.

1:03:55Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:03:56Shannon Sharpe:Number three pick is Sam Darnold. you got to have a bad boy back there uh bo nicks josh allen all those number one picks only one quarterback was outside if you don't have that i don't give a damn what your defense look like right because sometimes your defense is going to have to overcome bad play they will now cj stride can't play sunday like he played monday they're going home you for sure because he's gonna put his defense in harm's way. They're not going to have to drive the football very far. And they have more weapons, and they're able to run the football, and they're able to protect better than what the Steelers were able to do.

1:04:37Shannon Sharpe:So he can't have the type of game that he had. But without a quarterback, in today's game, the way they have instruction, the way they set it up, you can't win without a quarterback. And so I like this hire for the Giants.

1:04:50Chad Johnson:Hey, Boop, I like it too. With these coaches, with these vacancies, and let's say you're a head coach going into a situation, don't you kind of have some say-so? Like if you go into a situation like Atlanta, you know you need a quarterback, and they ask you to be the head coach. Don't you kind of got some say-so, some guys who you think you may want to bring in?

1:05:11Shannon Sharpe:If you're Mike Tomlin, yes. If you're John Harbaugh, yes. But sometimes you're a first-year coach. You don't have a whole lot to say. John Harbaugh had to build up to get that. Mike Tomlin had to build up to get that. Coach Belichick had a lot of control, but he built up and got even more. Andy Reid got some control, but he built up and got more as they started winning. You coming in and you haven't been a head coach before or you haven't won, you say what? There's only 32 of those positions available. Right, right. And so you're happy to have one of them. Now, if you win, you'll get more. Just like Ben Johnson, I believe he'll get more say.

1:05:53Shannon Sharpe:Mike Rabel's going to have more say. But Mike was a head coach. He took a team to a championship. He's coached in big games before. And so with this situation, you turn that around, you go from 4-13 to what, 13-4? Ben Johnson, I mean, Chicago, you know what they were over the last several years.

1:06:14Chad Johnson:Yeah, yeah.

1:06:14Shannon Sharpe:But now that you've got that quarterback position solidified, they're going to have a little bit more say. Now, mind you, those quarterbacks were already on staff. It wasn't like Mike Vrabel selected. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It wasn't like Ben Johnson selected Caleb Williams. Absolutely. So it definitely helps if you've got a quarterback already on staff. Yeah. Now you can build out your roster how you want and have some success doing that. So it's going to be very, very interesting. But congratulations, John Harbaugh, on the job. Are you trying to get weight loss support through telehealth, but it feels overwhelming and rushed, check out orderlymeds.com now.

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