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Nightcap Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Information
- Podcast Title: Nightcap
- Episode Title: Best of NFL News Part 1: GOIN' IN on HATERS after Shedeur Sanders makes Pro Bowl, Did the Eagles FUMBLE OC Hire?!
- Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
- Release Date: [Specific date not provided]
- Episode Duration: Approximately 1 hour 30 minutes
Episode Description In this episode, the hosts Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson discuss a variety of current NFL topics and share unfiltered takes on recent headlines, including Shedeur Sanders being named a Pro Bowl replacement and the Philadelphia Eagles' hiring of an offensive coordinator.
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Key Topics Discussed
- Shedeur Sanders Named Pro Bowl Replacement
- Context: Shedeur Sanders replaces Drake May in the Pro Bowl after May's Super Bowl appearance.
- Discussion Points:
- Mixed reactions to Sanders’ selection despite statistical competition from other quarterbacks like Trevor Lawrence.
- The Pro Bowl's significance has diminished over the years, with fewer players taking it seriously.
- Both hosts acknowledge that Sanders will be remembered as a Pro Bowler, regardless of how he got there.
- Injury Updates
- Drake May Injury: Concerns about May's right shoulder as the Super Bowl approaches.
- Josh Allen's Accountability: Allen reflects on his performance affecting head coach Sean McDermott's firing, admitting a need for improvement.
- Eagles Offensive Coordinator Hiring
- Sean Mannion's Appointment:
- Mannion’s brief coaching history and his potential impact on the Eagles.
- Discussion on the need for creativity in the Eagles’ offense and how this hire might help.
- Importance of allowing quarterback Jalen Hurts more freedom in playcalling.
- Contract Year for Keon Coleman
- Head Coach Joe Brady’s Support: Brady expresses confidence in Coleman, emphasizing the importance of performance in a contract year.
- The hosts discuss the significance of having a supportive coach and the pressure to perform.
- Eli Manning’s Hall of Fame Voting
- Voting Results: Manning did not receive enough votes for election in his second year of eligibility.
- Debates surrounding Hall of Fame qualifications and the perception of quarterbacks’ legacies.
- Josh Allen's Reflection on Team Performance
- Allen feels responsible for the team’s struggles and discusses the need for making key plays in critical moments.
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Key Takeaways
- The NFL's Pro Bowl and its relevance have significantly changed, with an emphasis on fan votes and player willingness to participate.
- Coaches and their relationships with players play a crucial role in maximizing player performance, especially in contract years.
- Accountability in sports is a powerful theme, as seen through Josh Allen’s reflections on his performance impacting coaching changes.
- The criteria for Hall of Fame induction remain subjective and often controversial, highlighting the challenges in evaluating a player's complete body of work.
Final Thoughts The episode concludes with humorous banter between the hosts, reflecting their camaraderie and the entertaining nature of the sports talk format. They emphasize the importance of both sports performance and the personal stories that shape athletes' careers beyond the field.
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Additional Information
- Sponsors: The episode features advertisements for Public (an investing platform) and Orderly Meds (a telehealth service).
- Engagement: Listeners are encouraged to subscribe for future episodes and stay engaged with the hosts' commentary on ongoing sports events.
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This summary captures the core discussions and themes of the podcast episode, providing a comprehensive overview for readers interested in the latest NFL news and insights from Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOShadour Sanders: Pro Bowl Discussion
2:16 to 8:00
Analyze the implications of Shadour Sanders being named to the Pro Bowl.
“All right, Ocho, in an unexpected, Shadur Sanders has been named to the Pro Bowl.”
The Evolution of the Pro Bowl
8:08 to 14:01
Discuss the changes in the Pro Bowl's significance and format over the years.
“And now all of a sudden you mean to tell me, and I don't know what year it happened but I remember it happening and I was like, because you remember the hit that Sean Taylor laid on the corner.”
Pro Bowl Memories and Evolution
14:01 to 17:33
Explore the changing significance of the Pro Bowl through personal anecdotes.
“Therefore, as far as the pecking order goes, he was next in line, so therefore he's a Pro Bowler.”
Analyzing Drake May's Condition
19:41 to 23:10
Discuss the implications of Drake May's throwing shoulder injury for the Super Bowl.
“The Patriots held their first practice ahead of Super Bowl today and after with the team's injury report listed May as limited for the second straight day.”
Sean Manning's Hiring as OC
23:10 to 28:00
Delve into the potential impact of Sean Manning's hiring on the Eagles' offense.
“You're going to get the best out of him.”
Confidence in Play Calling and Offensive Adjustments
28:00 to 29:31
Learn how confidence in play calling impacts player performance and offensive strategies.
“I'm going to allow him to be what I believe he can be.”
Evaluating Saquon Barkley's Performance
29:31 to 31:26
Explore the impact of Saquon Barkley's performance on the Eagles' offense and quarterback Jalen Hurts.
“I think the way you help the quarterback the most is run the football.”
Creativity in Offensive Play Design
31:26 to 34:21
Discuss the need for creativity in offensive schemes and player utilization.
“Listen, but I want them to evolve when they're not able to run the ball.”
Coaching Changes and Expectations
34:21 to 35:40
Understand the implications of coaching changes on team dynamics and player expectations.
“Because them Eagles fans, they don't play.”
Josh Allen's Accountability and Team Performance
38:11 to 42:00
Investigate Josh Allen's accountability regarding team performance and playoff outcomes.
“Josh Allen blames himself for Sean McDermott firing and believed that they would be in the Super Bowl right now if he had made one more play.”
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Game-Changing Plays: The Importance of Key Moments
42:00 to 43:20
Discussing how crucial plays can overshadow turnovers in NFL games.
“Not only did he have the four turnovers, All the turnovers would have been forgotten if he makes that one throw.”
Historical NFL Moments: Remembering the Greats
43:20 to 45:39
Reflecting on iconic NFL plays and how they define players' legacies.
“I think he had three interceptions and a fumble.”
AJ Brown's Future: Eagles and Potential Moves
45:39 to 47:51
Analyzing AJ Brown's situation with the Eagles and potential trades.
“That throw, and they went on it, won the Super Bowl.”
Eli Manning's Hall of Fame Journey: A Tough Call
47:51 to 49:42
Debating Eli Manning's legacy and his wait for Hall of Fame induction.
“it ain't going to be better anywhere else, blah, blah, blah.”
Hall of Fame Induction: Perspectives from Legends
49:42 to 52:07
Exploring what Hall of Fame means to former NFL players.
“and a sub-star passing stats to make it tough to judge a Hall of Fame resume.”
Reflecting on Career Achievements and Future Goals
52:07 to 56:00
Talking about career accomplishments and aspirations for the future.
“People, I know people look at Johnny's antics and you know him talking trash and him grunting and doing all that stuff.”
Trash Talk and Golf Games
56:00 to 59:50
Listen as the hosts engage in playful banter and discuss their golf game experiences.
“Okay, hey, Joe, you putting the guy, hey, Joe, you putting the eggs before the chicken now.”
Games and Dice Conversations
59:50 to 1:04:49
The hosts continue their playful exchanges and reminisce about games involving dice and bets.
“For you guys that's in the chat that don't know what Ocho and Joe and myself are talking about, go to Nightcap outside.”
Transcript
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2:16All right, Ocho, in an unexpected, Shadur Sanders has been named to the Pro Bowl. Shadur will replace Drake May, who will be playing in Super Bowl 60. Shadur is part of the AFC quarterbacking group that includes Josh Allen and Justin Herbert, who could also require replacement after getting surgery in December to repair a fractured hand. Only four AFC quarterbacks ranked in the top ten for fan voting. Josh Allen, Drake May, Patrick Mahomes, and Bo Nix. Mahomes and Nix are both out with injuries, so that allows Shadour to get the nod. Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, and Aaron Rodgers, obviously bigger names, didn't make the cut over Shadour.
2:56Ocho, what are you thinking? Obviously, a lot of people are upset. A lot of people are saying that Shadour Sanders didn't deserve this. Obviously, when you look at the stats statistically, there are so many other suitors that could have gone to the Pro Bowl. Honestly, this is one that is a bit confusing to me. As much as I love Shadour Sanders, there are many others that should have gotten that opportunity to go. I am happy that he's been awarded and afforded the opportunity to go to the Pro Bowl in his first year. but maybe you can clarify and give me a little bit a little bit more clarity as to why the other players who had better seasons statistically than ghosts um mainly a Trevor Lawrence is that the name you want to throw out there I was getting ready to say Trevor Lawrence so I mean can you explain to me you might be able to help me understand a little better maybe uh obviously Ocho um maybe it's a situation where the fan vote they's like because you got to think about Ocho they're down to like their sixth or seventh alternate.
3:57The Pro Bowl does not have the same recognition that it once did. It used to mean something to go to the Pro Bowl. Who are you telling? It used to mean something. And when you look at that ball and you see all those names, you saw the Elwes and the Marinos and the Tom Brady and the Peyton Mannings. And the guys, like I said, it wasn't like a regular season game, but guys cared. There was none of this two-hand touch. and I've read some of the comments he didn't deserve to go it happens he's not the first alternate to ever make the Pro Bowl he's not he's not going to be the last alternate to make the Pro Bowl we saw Ocho remember we saw Huntley just a few years ago make it because nobody really wanted to go first of all I don't know where it's going to be is it San Francisco this year because it used to mean something you go to Hawaii You get a vacation.
4:50You get to take your wife to Hawaii, your girlfriend, your family get to tag along. It meant something to go across the water, to break bread. You're drinking the Mai Tais, the blue Hawaiians. It normally meant something. It doesn't have the same cachet. But congratulations to Shadour. And like I said, Patrick Mahomes was hurt. Bo Nix is hurt. I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure the other names would have gone. Not not at that far down as an altar. I don't think Lamar is going. There's a great chance that they reached out to these guys and they're like, nah, I'm good. Aaron Rodgers is like, nah, I don't need that trip.
5:29Lamar is like, nah, I got other things to do. So I think the thing is that the other guys, Lamar, Joe, Aaron Rodgers, probably Trevor Lawrence, they probably have popped it out. I mean, listen, if it was like it was back in the day when we were playing actually and it actually meant much more to go to the Pro Bowl, the achievement of making the Pro Bowl it was unbelievable you understand this is a real trip a real treat that you get to go you got to fly 10 hours I don't care where you live it's a 10 hour flight your family goes and you know you're there all week and you really played there was no bull jib it wasn't no shucking and jibing you enjoy those first three quarters and we get to that fourth quarter it's time to tighten up and we got to play ball It's time to turn up.
6:17It's time to turn up, and we playing ball. It is. So, I mean, it's different now. Obviously, the game has evolved. The players are also trying to protect themselves, especially if you're in a contract here. They don't want to get hurt. But, hey, um. Nope. Man, it was, hey, oh, my goodness. You remember that? What I don't like about it now, Ocho, that was also the time that the team that won the Super Bowl, that got an opportunity to come over to the Pro Bowl, and everybody got them on the back. Man, congratulations. Hell of a job, man. I was rooting for you. X, Y, and Z. Now, I mean, there are some players that's going to, I mean, and I get it.
6:51Like I said, it's not, that's still on your resume. So no matter what you think, Shadour Sanders, whether he makes a number or not, when it's all said and done, he'll be a one-time Pro Bowl player. So how he got there is unimportant. Nobody's going to remember five years, 10 years, 15, 20, 30 years from now that he was an alternate and got selected to the Pro Bowl. But I love the fact that after, you know, I was very fortunate to win a couple of Super Bowls and was a Pro Bowl player at that time and got an opportunity to go over and receive my congratulations and receive that, you know, Darryl Green and a lot of Ray Browns and the guys like, hey, man, sign this champ.
7:25And you got an opportunity to put those Roman numerals up there. It meant something. It really did. And I wish the NFL would go back to that and let these guys that made the Pro Bowl, that are in the Super Bowl, they get an opportunity to go because they get an opportunity to go fraternize and see some of the guys. A lot of the guys you only see in passing, Ochoa, you play against them, and that's it. But you get an opportunity to meet people's family. You take pictures with people's wives and kids and their father-in-laws and things of that nature. So it's a huge honor. But congratulations, Shador.
7:58Look, no matter what, people are going to be upset about it. He didn't deserve to go. But they had to have somebody else, and it seems like these other guys weren't interested in it. So, I mean, what do you want them to do, just send two guys? hey uh uh uh Justin Herbert could have easily opted out because he had surgery on on his non-throwing hand but I I guess for what he's need to do it's not gonna I don't think it's gonna be it's gonna inhibit anything that he's gonna do as far as throwing the football because he's just gonna be throwing running around trying to throw the ball in the hoop or hit hit a mute a moving target so I don't I don't really have a problem with this uh the only thing I wish is that I just wish the guys took it a little bit more serious and it didn't have to come to this, that they ended up cutting it out and then making a skills competition because it used to mean, and don't tell me this, oh well, no, because the guys played for 50 years.
8:5350 years, Ocho, they played. And now all of a sudden you mean to tell me, and I don't know what year it happened but I remember it happening and I was like, because you remember the hit that Sean Taylor laid on the corner. Yeah, yeah. I mean guys wouldn't clean your clock I mean if you go they're going to thud you guys like they let you come down and they tackle you guys wouldn't try you know guys wouldn't try to do level no crack back blocks or anything like that but the NFL did the only thing that they could if that which they had they had to cut it out because guys wouldn't take it serious and so now it's a skills competition I mean they got the they played a flag game and that's that's why I proposed you know my whole thing and obviously aren't there i think there's there's enough of the the older players the the past players that uh there's there's enough of us that that are still in some somewhat shorter sort of shape and i just thought i just thought you know it would be exciting if they knew ahead of time and preparing themselves to go against the younger generation i think it would be fun because you're not out there man ain't but two of y 'all in shape man ain't nobody still but I'm just saying, the fact that they're not playing for real, it's just to enjoy yourselves.
10:07I think it would be cool for the fans, you know, to be able to see the younger generation go against the older generation. Hey, we're not going all out, but we're just out there having a good time. That's all. I just thought. I mean, the only thing you possibly could do is have the quarterbacks to throw, but they would need to give them like six months to throw so their arm don't fall off after that Saturday. I mean, I don't know. I just thought it would be something really dope and something that you would never see a crossover like that unless you played Madden. So to be able to see it in real life, in real time, some of the former legends playing with some of the current stars today, it would be dope to see them share the field.
10:44But, hey. Ocho, you know, I don't know if you got an opportunity to make it, but it used to be the Pro Bowl. Look, the Pro Bowl was an honor, but everybody wanted to make all Madden. They wanted to make the All-Pro, and then they wanted to make the Pro Bowl. because if you made all man, he actually had to see you play. So that means you got the number one team, be it CBS or Fox. So that's what that meant. You got the number one team. So that means John Madden and Pat Summeroff, rest their soul, was seeing you play. And when you got that jacket or you got that trophy, that sweatshirt that they used to give you.
11:22At first, Ocho, they gave you a trophy. The trophy had to weigh like 25 pounds. so they I'm not bulljiving they gave you a trophy they gave you a leather jacket they gave you a sweatsuit they gave you a sweatshirt and they gave you a t-shirt they cut the trophy out and then they gave you a leather jacket a sweatshirt I think I still got I know I gave my last year I made it my last year in Denver I gave the what did I give I gave something I gave I think I gave house the jacket. I gave Chalk the hoodie. But that was an honor. To have John Madden we still got the Madden game. And to have those two call your games.
12:09That's dope now. What? That's dope. But I still got the leather jackets. I still got the biggest honor was me and my brother making it together. I think I got like four sweatshirts because I think I made it five times. I got four jackets and a sweatsuit. I don't know. I think I got a sweatsuit. My sister might have a sweatsuit. But congratulations, you should do it. Look, everybody's not going to be happy. I remember, look, there are some times that hell, I would have gone because I was the first alternate twice. My last year, my first year in Baltimore, no, three times. My first year in Baltimore, I was the first alternate.
12:54And my last two years in Denver, I was first alternate. Now, I definitely should have made it my first year in Baltimore. You can go check the stats. All the tight ends. Gonzo made it. Tony Gonzalez made it, deservedly so. But you look, I should have been the second guy. I should have been there. And then my second year in Denver, behind Gonzo again, I should have made it. But, hey, eight times, I guess there's really nothing to be complaining, but eight times in 14 years, that's pretty good for a guy that went in the seventh round. But, Shadour, congratulations. That's on your resume. Now it gives you something to strive to be one of those first three guys that get selected to the Pro Bowl.
13:35We have the fan vote, the coaches, and the players. It's a huge honor. And, like I said, 25, 30 years from now, everybody – well, nobody remembered that he was an alternate. They'll look like, man, Shadour made the Pro Bowl. Yeah, hey, listen, no matter what, no matter how you feel, you got to put Pro Bowler in front of that name before you say it. No matter whether he deserved it or not, whether the stats were up to par for him to make it, the players before him chose not to go. Therefore, as far as the pecking order goes, he was next in line, so therefore he's a Pro Bowler. Yeah. Actually, I'm trying to think.
14:11I made the Pro Bowl like, let's see, I made it 95. I made it like damn near like five of my times because I think Prime went like eight, nine times. And I think 92, 93, 94. No, I didn't go 94. I made it, but I didn't go. Eric Green. Eric Green was the alternate. I looked at it like, okay, that looked good on his resume. He hit me up. Hey, dog, what's going on? I said, what? Hey, you know, I got this. You good to go. That's dope. That's laugh. That's laugh. Hey, that's very generous for you. Hey, also, that's what we used to do. That's very generous. You called up. Chris Carter told a story. My brother had made it.
14:55And Chris was the alternate. And he's like, man, your brother going to the Pro Bowl? I'm like, I mean, he ain't loving it. I mean, if he go, it's only because I'm going. He hit my brother up. Brother said, hey, all of a sudden, my brother had an injury. Chris sent him a bottle. Right, right, right. That's dope. But that's, but you know, somebody had incentives. Go get that. Most definitely. Most definitely. Yeah, for sure. Sean Merriman said, I have Pro Bowl helmet that I walk past every day. It's signed by some of the best players in NFL history, legends, Hall of Famers, and real ghosts. The Pro Bowl used to be a badge of honor and respected.
15:34Things have changed. Dave said, you sound like a little bee. A little bee. Been hanging around your dad too much. My bad. Who said that? Somebody. Oh, it was a random. Oh, okay, okay. That was Sean Merriman. Then somebody tweeted back at him, and that was Sean's response. I mean, he's right. He's right. I mean, that era of football, obviously, I played against Sean Merriman, made the Pro Bowl with him as well. I mean, it was different. And the game has evolved. I mean, the meaning of the Pro Bowl has changed tremendously. I don't think players in today's era will understand what it meant to fly and take that 10-hour flight with your family and see some of the people and meet some of their kids and their wives and seeing some of the coaches that some of the players bought.
16:20I mean, it was dope. It was dope. I mean, enjoying the island, enjoying the people, enjoying the culture in general throughout the entirety of the week. It was different. It was different. And staying at the Iheilani with that goddamn French toast, I still don't know what – I don't know if it was a French toast or whether it was a syrup at the Iheilani in Hawaii. But, oh, my goodness, to this day, there's only been one place I don't mean to veer off track there's only been one place where I've had French toast as good as the French toast in the Iolani at that hotel and that's at a restaurant in Montreal called La Avenue oh my goodness they got a restaurant in I think I said Ash the thing on IG they got a restaurant in New York that we got to go try to pancakes there it's good yeah i'm a pancakes guy all things being equal i'd rather have pancakes okay but i'd go pancakes french toast yeah waffles for me that would be my choice okay i mean some people like french toast some people like waffles some people like pancakes but i'm a pancakes french toast i like it um but it is but congratulations should do it look everybody ain't gonna be happy but it is what it is support for the show comes from public the investing platform for those who take it seriously.
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19:40Mike Vrabel is not worried about Drake May's right throwing shoulder. The Patriots held their first practice ahead of Super Bowl today and after with the team's injury report listed May as limited for the second straight day. Vrabel said today, I try not to have a whole lot of concern. I just want to prepare the football team and make sure that everybody's ready and that we have a plan. Ocho, are you or should the Patriots be worried about Drake May won't be 100 % for the Super Bowl. Nah, absolutely, Unk. You know, going to the Super Bowl, Joe, this is the end of the season, Unk. Everybody nicked.
20:12Who the hell is 100? Who the hell? Ain't nobody 100%. If you play. Unless you ain't play all season long. But your throwing arm, though? Is it throwing arm or left shoulder? The man, how many passes did he throw? How many passes did he throw Sunday? So when did he hurt this throwing shoulder? Because I don't remember it being on the injury report. So he didn't throw a whole lot. And yeah, he got sacked. but a lot of them would like they landed on top of him. That's a little gamesmanship and all that stuff. It's just like Sam Donald. Remember Sam Donald at oblique? He ain't been practicing. We ain't really worried.
20:44He might not play. He went out. Hey, Sam Donald went out. Hey, that throwing arm, no, you can't shoot that up, though, and go out there because you don't want that arm, right? Hell yeah, you shoot it up. You can shoot anything up, Joe. You can shoot anything up, Joe. I'm thinking because they're motion. with a joint. The only thing that don't really shoot up is knees, but ankles, shoulders, ribs. Yeah. You won't feel the pain, Joe. You don't want to feel the pain when you throw that thing, that motion going forward. But after the game, boy, when that a drilling didn't go down, a well off, boy, may God be with you.
21:23New Buffalo Bills head coach Joe Brady expressed his support for Keon Coleman, stating that Keon is going to be a Buffalo Bill. I told Keon, when I got hired, the best thing to happen to Keon Coleman was me being his head coach. I was the one that stood on the table for Keon Coleman. I believe in Keon Coleman. Brady said that 2025 was a learning year for Coleman, adding that the Bills had put the team first in a lot of the elements. He's going to continue to grow. But the elements that we saw in the draft process, the confidence that I have in him and his ability, And as long as he's handling what he needs to handle off the field, I have no doubt that he's going to be successful on the field.
22:04Yeah. I like it. I like it. And that reassurance from the head coach, I know that got to have Keon feeling good. It got to have him feeling good, despite what he heard just a week or two weeks ago from them other folks. It doesn't matter. Your head coach says he believes in you. Your head coach says he believes in you publicly. Now you got to do your job. Now you got to do what's necessary to make sure when you do go back into that building, you do everything in your power. When you do get back, how do I make everyone else's job around me easy so they don't have to worry about me? Now you're in a position of power where now they can count on you.
22:40Absolutely. When they can count on you, now the rabbit, now you got the gun. Now you got the gun. That's all it comes down to. So I'm going to talk to Keon. We're going to be down here working this offseason. Matter of fact, I ain't even worried about it no more. I ain't even worried about it no more, Joe. I need him for a month, Joe. That's it. Oh, Joe. Hey, oh, Joe. Joe, before you go, you're going into his third year. This is a year. This is a money year. Hey, this is money here, Joe. So you know you're going to get the best out of him. Man, this is money here, Joe. You're going to get the best out of him.
23:13It all start right up here. Yeah. And knowing that the head coach got your back. See, he wowed them folks in his draft meetings. You know what I mean? Like, I seen it everywhere. That's all they were talking about. Yeah. But, yeah, Ocho, I'm with you, man. He got to come back next year, bro. He got to be a whole different player. His demeanor got to be different. He got to come ready to work. Contract year? Try to get some of that money on? Yeah. But, see, the funny thing about it is once you get back, all the work has to be already put in. Right. Work got to be put in the offseason because when you get back, it ain't nothing but X's and O's.
23:51So your game and everything about playing receiver got to be on point. Second nature. Second nature. Yeah. I can't wait.
24:05The Eagles are hiring Sean Manning as the offensive coordinator. Manning has coached the last two, has just coached, has coached for just two years, breaking in as an offensive assistant, the Packers in 2024, before being promoted to the quarterback's coach last season. This past season, he worked with Jordan Love, who completed 66 % of his throws, 3 ,381 yards with 23 touchdowns and six interceptions. A former quarterback out of Oregon State, Manning, spent nine seasons in the NFL with four different teams, including with the Rams, who drafted him in the third round. He learned from coaches such as Sean McVay, Clint Kubiak, and Shane Waldron during his playing days.
24:49Ocho, do you like this hire? You know, I'm going to be honest with you. I like the hiring, but I don't like the fact that I didn't get the opportunity to interview for the offensive coordinator's job for the Eagles. I know what they need. What they need is creativity. Now, where coach is coming from, under that umbrella tree with Kubiak and goddamn Sean McVay, I think it could be good. What the offense needs in Philadelphia is a little bit of creativity, young. I agree. They're too predictable. You know, I mean, we talk about it all the time, Joe, knowing what routes are being run based on receivers alignment.
25:25I mean, just, you know, no creativity at all. I think if he's able to bring some of that and open up what Jalen Hurts is already able to do and add something else to his game, I think they're going to be all right. You like it, Joe?
25:44I don't really know, to be honest with you, Uncle Ocho. I don't really know much about the coach. But I think I want to just see more from the quarterback, Jalen Hurts. just improvising a little more Uncle Ocho, getting outside the pocket, making plays, and throwing dots, bro. I think he got it in him. I think he second guesses himself quite a bit. But the Eagles, they definitely got a nice squad, man. They can get back on track and get back to playing championship ball. But I think it's going to come down to quarterback play, man. Him getting outside his comfort zone and being a playmaker. Yeah.
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26:22I like that too, Unc. Go ahead. You know what? Just to piggyback on what Joe was talking about, I would love to see Jalen be able to do a little bit more. Some of the things that people say he can do, especially when the running game is stifled as it was last year, I would love to see him be a pocket passer. I would love them to see, obviously, the offense wasn't predicated on him having to do anything outside of what they call, but I would love them to add a little bit more on his plate. Give him a little bit more so we can see him develop more as a pocket passer outside of what he normally does.
26:55I like it. I think the thing for me, Ocho, is that you said they need to open up the playbook and allow Jalen Hurst to be more of a quarterback. I think the thing sometimes is that when you call plays, you can – a player knows like, damn, they really don't think I can do but X, Y, and Z. And so by doing that, you like, damn, do they got confidence in me? Because they're calling plays as if they don't have confidence in me. Because somebody that calls plays, they allow me the freedom, the latitude to do a lot of things. And this offense really, I don't know if this offense allows Jalen Hurts to do a lot of the things that he could potentially do.
27:33And especially now at this stage of his career, his sixth or seventh year in the league, Ocho, you got to open the damn playbook up. You got to let him be able to go to the line and change plays on his own. He's not a first or second year quarterback. You don't have to keep the training wheels off on, excuse me, on for perpetuity. Allow him to be a quarterback. He's gone to two Super Bowls. he's won a Super Bowl MVP, that should be enough that should say, you know what, I have faith in this young man. I'm going to take the guardrails off. I'm going to allow him to be what I believe he can be. I just think the thing is when you call plays for a significant amount of time and you don't open it up, the player starts to feel that you don't have confidence in him.
28:17And then when you don't have confidence in him, I don't care. a lot of people say, you just need that one person to believe in you. The one person. And maybe that's this offensive coordinator. Now, he's very new Ocho. He started out as an offensive assistant. He became a quarterback's coach last year. And Jordan Love had a really good season. He got Nick and didn't have the type of season that you would hope. Got out to a great start against Chicago, but they ended up faltering late in that ball game. But I like this hire. Maybe, look, Green Bay and the West Coast system, and I think there's a misnomer, they still want to run the football.
28:59But they do so much more off of it than what the Eagles were doing. And I think the thing is with Jalen Hurts' legs, I think he does a great job. Yeah, he's strong. He can squat 600 pounds, but I think he does a great job of getting out of bounds. I think he does a great job of getting down and not taking unnecessary punishment. Now, look, sometimes you're going to have to, on third and one, Ocho, fourth and one, you're going to have to lower your head. You're going to have to get that extra yard. But for the most part, he does a great job of taking care of himself. I like this hire. I like it.
29:31I do.
29:36Damn. You got it? I done messed up my camera. Hold on.
29:43Lord, I don't know what he's doing.
29:50hey but
29:55Saquon the running back hey man I don't know what happened but it seemed like one year made a huge difference because I think when he's dominant like he was a year ago I think it's a lot easier for Jalen Hurts back there as well yeah but the fact that I think he was decent this year, but he wasn't what he was the year before. No, you're right, Joe. I think the way you help the quarterback the most is run the football. Teams made a conscious effort to stop Saquon Barkley. The offensive line was beat up a lot also. Dickerson had surgery right before the season. Jurgerson had surgery, if I'm not mistaken, in the offseason.
30:38He wasn't totally healthy. The right guard, they didn't really find an adequate replacement for Makai Becton. and you saw Lane Johnson go out. He was in and out, and he was dealing with injury. So the offensive line, as we knew it the previous year, wasn't even close to what it was. Now, you're going to get Lane back. Hopefully Dickerson doesn't have to get surgery. Jurgensen doesn't have to get surgery. They'd be able to not train instead of rehab. So that should help Saquon a lot more. That should help this offense a lot more. Because when Saquon was running crazy, now all Jayla Hurst does is stick the ball out to Saquon and pull it back, now you got Devontae, now you got AJ, you got Goddard, and those guys running scot-free.
31:21So that's definitely a plus when you can run the football. Go ahead, Ocho. Absolutely. Listen, but I want them to evolve when they're not able to run the ball. I need the creativity. I need the schemes. I need the different formations. I need the motions. The basic-ass rounds. Yes, putting AJ Brown in the backfield, putting Devontae Smith in the backfield. or some of the things you see them do with Puka Nakua, some of the things you see them do with JSN, you can bring that same type of creativity, a similar style to West Coast offense, without really taking away from what you actually do, just adding sauce to it.
31:56When you got damn Joe, when you cook food, Joe, you add seasoning to your food, Joe. That's all I'm asking the Eagles offense to do, the new offensive coordinator to do. You already got your recipe, right? Add a little seasoning to it. Change it up a little bit. So when you get in situations where the running game, game's not working, you're still able to operate in other ways. That's all. Hey, Ocho, I think for me, you know, when you look at it as players, it's only so much the coaching staff can do, man. Yeah. You know, when we get in between those lines as athletes, we the ones got to improvise and make plays at the end of the day.
32:32You know what I mean? So as much as the coaches help, when you get out there in between those lines, man, it's got to come out of you. You know what I mean? Like you got to be a playmaker. You got to make things happen. I think the thing is, in last year, they didn't really have a guy that could scheme guys open. Yeah, sometimes it comes down to talent. And sometimes they have to call a play, Ocho. And I just say, Ocho, you got to go beat this guy. I ain't got nothing creative. I ain't got nothing exotic. I'm not stacking anybody. I'm not putting anybody in motion. I'm not doing anything like that.
33:01You see what Clint Kubiak did. He put JSN in the backfield. He slips him out. He runs the seven route. The backers get confused. They go one way, and next thing you know, he's wide open for a touchdown. Or you see what Sean McVay does in that situation where he does it with Puka, and he gets guys open. He gets Devontae open. At some point in time, I can't scheme you open, son. Sometimes we pay you$20 million. You just got to go get the F open. That's what it comes down to. You just got to go get open sometimes. Now, I'm going to always try to put you in the best situation, but sometimes it's you versus him.
33:37Who wanted more? Now, look, I can't make a living, Ocho, running 15 digs and four outs and three goals on the left side. I've got to get more creative than that. I just do. I agree. So I like to hire. I don't know how well he'll do, but I remember him coming out of Oregon State. Ocho, that's your alumni. That's your brethren. Yeah, that's my alum. That's my alum. Yeah, I like him. Listen, when you mention him coming from that umbrella tree with Kubiak and Sean McVay, I'm sure he's going to bring some of that sauce with him. He got to. You got to. Because them Eagles fans, they don't play. Yeah.
34:25They kind of got spoiled. You had Kellen Moore for a year, Ochoa, in his first year there. You go to the Super Bowl. You win the Super Bowl. They look dominant. They look really good. and the only time they seemed to be challenging the postseason was get the Rams, and the Rams had a throw in the end zone, and he kind of dropped it. The guy made a great play on it. But other than that, they ran through everybody else that was in the postseason. Kellen Moore parlayed that, got a head coaching job at the Saints. Best of luck to him. He's done a great job. But you take for granted, and you think just because, well, they got the same talent, but no, Everybody doesn't have the same mindset.
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38:14Josh Allen blames himself for Sean McDermott firing and believed that they would be in the Super Bowl right now if he had made one more play. If I make one more play, that game in Denver, we're probably not having this press conference right now. We're probably not making a change. In all honesty, we're probably getting ready to play another game. Well, the weather in New England was worse than the weather in Denver. And you were going to have to play a lot better, a lot better than what you played in order for you to advance. Now, I'm not saying that they – I mean, this is wishful thinking. Not everybody can say that, Ocho.
38:51You know what, Ocho? If we had beat Pittsburgh, if y 'all had beat Pittsburgh that year, If Carson doesn't get hurt, it's easy to say what would have happened without knowing the actual outcome. It's easy to say this is what would have happened. We don't know what would have happened. We know what did happen. But you're right. You're right. I'm not surprised. I think a lot of people are surprised at Sean McDermott. But Ocho and I was talking about this, Joe, in October. And I told him, I said, he on the hot seat. He's like, man, you think so on them postseason? I said, yeah, but he ain't got to the Super Bowl.
39:21And you got Josh Allen. Many believe he's a top three quarterback, especially now that he has the MVP. Another season in which he had 40-plus touchdowns. That's five, six seasons in a row he's had 40 combined touchdowns. And you haven't gotten to the Super Bowl yet? So I knew the writing was on the wall. Yeah. And it's funny, and Joe, this is probably why I'm not a GM, probably why I'm not an owner, because they were always making it to the playoffs. to me, even though that's not where you want to be, but the fact that they're one of the few teams that would be in contention every year. So if we're not making the Super Bowl, but we're right there, and knowing Coach McDermott is my head coach, one of these years, we're going to get over that hump.
40:09We're going to get over that hump. So now you change the head coach, but obviously you didn't go out and get anybody new. You have Joe Brady, who was already there. So I'm assuming, even still, they're probably going to get there, and it's all going to come down to Josh Allen and what he does in the postseason yet again. Absolutely. And normally it always does. That's why he makes the most money. That's why more times than not, that's the guy that's the face of your franchise. So when that guy plays well, you see Drake May. He made a few more plays than what Jerry Stidham made. You see Sam Darnold.
40:51He made a few more plays, and that's what it comes down to. And those big moments like that, Joe, it comes down to that. Hey, you want the ball in your best player's hand. Basketball, you want the ball in your best player's hand. Now, if we can force it out of your best player's hand, if we can make an auxiliary, your second, third, or fourth best player, take that shot, I can live with it if he makes it. I just can't live with it if your best guy takes and makes that shot. Right. Right, right. I think with Josh Allen, obviously, Uncle Ocho, y 'all know his competitors, man. When you're in the playoffs and you have a game the way he did, what do you have, five turnovers?
41:26He had four turnovers. They had five total. Four turnovers. Yeah, so I like the accountability that he took because you know it hurts going into the summer, Uncle Ocho. You got to deal with that pain and you keep replaying it in your head. Man, if I could have just had maybe one turnover versus four or five, you know, maybe we could still be playing. So I understand that part because you don't get a chance to get that back until you start back playing. You know what I mean? And plus, Ocho, we talk about the turnovers. He missed a throw that would have won him the game. He had to tie it in on the far cross.
42:01Yes, he missed it. In the end zone, yeah, yeah, yeah. He missed it. He missed it. And he rushed it too. Yes. There was no need to rush it. And that's the thing. Not only did he have the four turnovers, All the turnovers would have been forgotten if he makes that one throw. Makes that one throw, yeah. And sometimes we talk about it. It's two or three plays that really determine the outcome of the game. The outcome of the game, yeah. You hit that throw, you turn the ball on four times. Ain't nobody talking about those four turnovers. Mm-hmm. Because you'll be playing next weekend. Everybody talk?
42:35Yeah. I'll give you a prime example. Go back and look up that championship game, the catch by Joe Montana. see how many turnovers he had in that game. Go look it up. What do you have, four or five turnovers? But don't nobody remember Joe had that many. I watched the game. I know how many he had. Go back and see how many he had. Does anybody mention the turnovers that he had in the NFC Championship game? Joe, all they talk about was what? The catch. That throw. And really and truly, he said, I was trying to throw it away because I needed to get it over too tall, who's 6 '8", 6 '9". Yeah. So it doesn't matter how bad you play, all that goes away if you make one play.
43:20What did Joe end up? I think he had three interceptions and a fumble.
43:26It's the 81 championship.
43:35And that was the end of the Cowboys. I'm sorry, Joe. come on chill you gotta chill but and we've seen Tom have a couple of turnovers early we've seen great quarterbacks have turnovers early but we only remember the good right
44:01you find it
44:07it's and so everything Josh said is true. He knows. He knows if he plays well, they win that game and Sean McDermott is still okay. See? Don't nobody remember that though. Unless you watch the game. Right. How many he had? He had three picks. And a fumble. But everybody remember to throw the catch. Who was that tight end, number 87? Dwight Clark was a wide receiver. Rest his soul, he's passed away. I think he had Lou Gehrig. Dwight Clark, oh. Okay. Oh, Dwight Clark. Yeah. They had Dwight Clark, Freddie Solomon.
44:58I think that was the year they ended up playing Cincinnati in 81 in Detroit. Yeah. We should have won that game. Errol Cooper, and then guess what? Y 'all played him again in the 88, Ocho. We should have won that game. Louis Billups had the game won. He dropped the pick. Remember, that was the game Jerry goes for 200. Yeah. Hey, Jerry, what?
45:2649ers as a team, turn the ball over six times. We don't remember that. We don't remember that. and still won the game.
45:38Damn. Because why, Ocho? That throw, and they went on it, won the Super Bowl. So ain't nobody talking about no turnovers. Right.
45:53But Josh, I love the fact that he's like, look, I got to bear a lot of responsibility on this. You know me? I've got to take better care of the football. and when the opportunity presents itself, I've got to make that throw. Josh Allen's too good not to make that throw. That's not a difficult throw. That's not an Eli Manning or Mario Manningham throw, Ocho. That's not that kind of throw. It was simple. It seemed like, I'm not sure why he rested. I don't know either. He didn't have no pressure. And the tight end weren't wide open. I'm talking about, hey Joe, the tight end, he might have been too open.
46:28Too open, he's just sitting there chilling. That would have been an easy six. It's just an up-down. It's not a drop in the bucket because they're the underneath guy. But the bad guy was trailing. Tight end had done came clean. He had in between the both of them. A lot of space. And he overshot him.
46:48Damn. Well. So, we'll see if Joe Brady is the right guy. is the right guy. I think he has a couple of years to get this thing turned around. They need a one. If A.J. Brown is available, you got to go get him. You got to go get him. Ooh. You got to. And you definitely need some defense. Philly going to let him go? Huh? I know it's been a little disgruntled over there in Philly with A.J. Brown, but man, you let him go, what you going to get in return, Uncle Ocho? Pick. You take the draft capital. Because sometimes, Ochoa, look, I think for me, just listening to AJ talk, even after being a second-team All-Pro, even after making a Pro Bowl, winning the Super Bowl, he's like, I don't feel what I thought I would feel.
47:47So I don't know what's going to make him happy. So at that point in time, maybe, hey, he's like, you know what? it ain't going to be better anywhere else, blah, blah, blah. And he says, I want to stay. But I think the thing is now, considering how it ended, I think it's best for the Eagles to go their way and AJ to go his. I told you. See, I told you. I told you. I told you. I can see it now. We're there. You know, AJ on one side, Keon Coleman on the other. You know, AJ, I'm going to get you. Keon Wright this offseason. Come back with a whole different mentality. That's all it'll come down to.
48:32Up here, get that out your way. Man, shoot. Keon Coleman to A.J. Brown, they're going to be like Jamal chasing T. Higgins, boy. All right now. Yeah, I'm telling you. So, we'll see what Buffalo does as far as what they do in the draft to finally
48:56be in a position, hopefully you can get back to that position again. You get back to the playoffs, don't you? Because the thing is, there ain't no guarantee you get back to the playoffs. And if you do, there ain't no guarantee you'll be in a more favored position than what you were. Yeah. And the chances of everybody being out and being hurt like they were this year, that's not likely. This was your best chance. So next year, the year after, you're going to have to run the gauntlet You got to beat them boys.
49:30Eli Manning, Ocho, will have to wait at least one more year. The two-time Super Bowl winning MVP reportedly did not receive enough votes to the election into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It is the second year of eligibility. His career, 117 wins, 117 losses, and a sub-star passing stats to make it tough to judge a Hall of Fame resume. You see? A lot of times people just want to put all the credentials on. Oh, he won an MVP. He was the Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl.
50:04Hold on. So this is the second time he done got skipped?
50:10Wow. Yep. It's tough because, hold on.
50:19Jim Plunkett won two Super Bowls. He ain't in. Number one overall draft pick in 1970 if I'm not mistaken. Look that up. I think Jim Plunkett was 1970. He still not in? No, Jim Plunkett's not in because I think Archie went second. I think Plunkett was one, Archie was second in 1970.
50:41Damn.
50:46What you thinking, Ocho? Right call. Eli should be in. He should have to wait. I think it's the right call. It's the right call. He was drafted first overall. He's going to get in. Yeah. You heard me on? He did. Ashley looking at me talking about, what did he do in 1970? Went first overall. Didn't Archie go second?
51:19He was 71. Right. So 71, him and Archie. Two. Hold on. How many times did Kurt Warner have to wait? Because Kurt is a two-time league MVP, an offensive player of the year, a Super Bowl MVP, and he had the three most passing yards in Super Bowl history before Tom broke him. And he had to wait. yeah yeah I mean they listen they go they go make Eli wait he gonna get he gonna get in hurt head we won't get it regardless three times yeah he gonna he gonna get in it's it Joe I don't know like I said I used to like I said after they made DT wait five times I was like I don't know what a Hall of Famer is I I don't.
52:09I don't. They switch it up. Johnny Randall had to wait. People, I know people look at Johnny's antics and you know him talking trash and him grunting and doing all that stuff. He was hell. Johnny Randall was hell. He was the real deal. Undecided, but Joe, he would kick his ass. He can go. Yo. Yo. Hey, hey, when y 'all got into the league, Uncle Ocho, was being in the Hall of Fame ever on y 'all mind or just playing the game, having fun? Boy, shoot. Joe, you see how I played the game? Yo. I wasn't thinking nothing about that jacket, boy. Uncle, what you thinking about it? Joe, in 1991, we played in the Hall of Fame game.
52:59I went into the Hall of Fame and looked around. had no idea 20 years later I got a bust in there yeah bro I'm a 7th round draft all I'm trying to do is make a team I'm just trying to make the team Joe you don't think about the Hall of Fame the Hall of Fame never came on my radar until Mark Kisner said hey at the rate you go in a couple more years like this you're going to be a Hall of Fame candidate I say you think so he's like I know so that was the first time the Hall of Fame even crossed my mind that was in like 97
53:40I agree because look when I came in I just I wanted to make sure I belong I wanted to show that I belong that I could play in the NBA it wasn't until about 15, 14, 15 years when they was like man look you almost had 20 ,000 points it ain't but a few guys who got that man you might get a chance to get in there. But I never thought about getting in the Hall of Fame. I think since my career has been over, I thought about it. But while I was playing Ocho, man, it never crossed my mind, bro. I was just out there having fun, enjoying the game. Hold on, Joe. You got a nominee for the Hall of Fame, boy?
54:18Yeah, I got a nominee this year. Ooh, that's my job, Joe. That's what I'm talking about, boy. That's what I'm talking about. I'm living right, man. Hey, it's a lot of good things happening for you boy over here. You know what I'm about? Hey, Joe, when you get it, when you get it, boy, I'm finna be there, boy. Hey, boy, say less. Don't threaten me with no good time. Yeah, I ain't never been to Springfield, man. So I gone up there. Yeah. Oh, that's where the basketball hall of fame at? In Springfield? Yeah, Springfield, Massachusetts. Baseball is Coopertown, New York. And obviously, football is Canton, Ohio.
54:50Hey, boy, Joe, I got a suit for that, boy, Joe. I can't wait, boy. You got something for it? Hey, look, look. I got a suit for that, boy. From the looks of it, it look like I'm going to be in the Nightcap Hall of Fame too. Yeah, yeah. With me, you. With me, you. There you go. You see how you do it? You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm talking about? We done created the monster. Don't do that. Hey, listen, listen, listen. Don't do that. What y 'all want from me? What y 'all want from me? Come on, man. Just a little respect. Just a little respect. I'm being respectful. I'm just keeping it 100.
55:18I'm just saying from how things going right now, currently. Okay. yeah hey i'm just saying y 'all know what you're gonna do but i'm gonna put a stop to this next the next the next taping let me let me tell you something let me tell you something joe you getting a little too excited because we we haven't done ping pong we haven't played pool we haven't shot dark and you should hey you we ain't shot dark there's so many things we haven't done yet and you put you got a little too much dip on your chip to be talking all that oh joe oh joe All I want Unc to do when, at the end of the show, when he introduces, I want him to be like, and still.
55:55That ain't what happened, Joe. Hey, oh man, hell no, Joe. But hey, Joe, well, okay. Man, just joking, yeah. Okay, hey, Joe, you putting the guy, hey, Joe, you putting the eggs before the chicken now. You putting the eggs, you putting the carrots before the horse now. The cart. I see what I'm up against. so i what i want before the horse the horse has to pull the cart so he's always gonna be in front now i said he putting the carriage before the horse i know the carriage yes you said the carriage or the cart i said the carriage yes yes you're right oh you got one right okay yeah yeah i know what i'm talking about i'll be using that i mean normally it's the cart i mean people don't see but i we oh what we get what you You Ocho, so we - No, horse and carriage, horse and carriage.
56:45You know the song. Yeah. Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad. My bad. Yeah, Joe. Hey, tighten up, Joe. Your day coming again. I'm locked in, I'm locked in. Don't tell y 'all, y 'all don't worry about nothing else. Hey, the funny thing about it is don't too many people, don't too many people out trash talk me. And the fact that you keep on egging on like you really like that, I don't like that, Joe. Well, at the end of the day, at the end of the day, Hey, Ocho, it can't be but one winner out of all us. It ain't like all us can win and celebrate. So the one who do win, but I ain't doing a whole lot of talking, Joe.
57:21Unc, unc, but you acting a fool on the golf joint. You acting a - Unc, unc, you acting a - Unc, unc, you acting a - Unc, you acting a - Unc, you really set me off. You really set me off because you acting a fool on that golf thing. You acting a fool. Ocho, you could attest to this. Joe the one that talk about, oh yeah, I already know. I already know I got this one. before we even started, Joe. That was you. That was you. You said that. Oh, oh, so now y 'all double-teaming, though. No, we not, no, no. We just going on with D here. Oh, okay. I'm used to that. I'm used to that. I'm used to that. Just know, hey, just know when y 'all see me, man, I'm always have my A game with me.
57:56I'm always be locked in. Don't even worry about it. I said, well, Joe, we just got here. I mean, you don't even know the rules of the game. Oh, oh, once I find out what it's going to be, I know y 'all can't do it. Oh, you got too much muscle. and I know Ocho ain't never been on the golf. I said, well damn, Joe. Yeah, it's all good. It's all good. Hey, I wasn't too far off now. I wasn't too far off. But what did I tell you when he got to sudden death? I said, it's over, Joe. I don't need one putt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Ocho, Ocho, you got to fight back. They don't call me on a palm tree for nothing.
58:32OK, there you go. Joe, you got to understand, Joe. I had on my clothes to go to dinner, Joe. So that's the only reason. That's the only reason. You was spiffed down. I took one putt and laid down. I said, I'm laying, I'm tired. I'm sitting up. Look, look, look.
58:51Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Hey, y 'all, y 'all talking about man, man, Unk looked like it hurt. I won. Michael Jordan had the flu. How did Michael Jordan look during the flu? Did he not drop 37? Yeah, he really did. Hey, you ain't look like you were hurting to me the way you were rolling out on the ground. Yeah, you good. Then look, I ain't do the centipede. Next one, I'm gonna do the centipede. You can't do the centipede. I do centipede. I might break dance.
59:25I got some for y 'all. Hey, I might be turbo and boogaloo shrimp. I got some for y 'all. Colors. What you got, Ocho? You ain't got nothing for nobody. Hey, when we get back out there, when we get back out there, okay? I'm ready. I'm sitting, boy, how y 'all going to out talk me? And I'm the original trash talker. Y 'all got a game final. You can't talk if you ain't winning? Nightcap outside. For you guys that's in the chat that don't know what Ocho and Joe and myself are talking about, go to Nightcap outside. We had some games. We were in New York at the Lawn Club. and you know we had some games and you know everybody you know how everybody get to talk today I could do this I could do that hey and we gonna shoot dice Ocho oh oh baby who you talking to hold on YouTube what we talk about two dice two dice yeah y 'all done y 'all y 'all definitely done cuz that that's what I I do.
1:00:27Hey, Joe, I don't know if you shoot dice. Unk, you shoot dice? Really? I can show you better than I can tell you. Yeah, all right. I'm trying to hit a lick. And bring your, hey, hold on. We ain't shoot no dice without no money. OK, the fuck about it. All right. Bring your money. I need to bring a little bankroll or a big bankroll. We don't need but 1 ,000. Whoever had the most money at the end, that's who win. OK, there we go. Stay last. Y 'all already know. And I get to win some money. I get to win some money, mess with you, boy. Hey, because I already know that Emmitt Smith going to break the game up.
1:01:01What number Emmitt Smith? That 20-1? Okay. Because I know everybody going to jump on that 10-4. Yeah, Lil' Joe. Hey, Lil' Joe, I'm back, though, Lil' Joe all day long. Hey, speed limit. The old speed limit, that 55 will break the game up quick because everybody want to jump on that 10-4 with both feet. Hey. Hey, y 'all doing a whole thing. Hey, boy, you boys in trouble. Y 'all doing a whole lot of talking for people that are amateurs that shooting dice. That nine? How you figure that? Y 'all are amateurs that shooting dice. What Jesse James carry? 45. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Don't nobody move with me.
1:01:40Don't nobody move with me. Joe, stay right where you are. Ocho, don't try to make anything sudden. Let me get this money right quick. Oh, yeah, this ain't going to be a layup, fella. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Y 'all already know my point. My point, nine. Nine, my point. Nine. Nina Rouse. Nina Rouse. Born in 54, died in 63. What's my point, Joe? Yeah, all right. Born in 54, died in 63. I would get that jacket up off you, Ocho. Hey, keep that same energy. Keep that same energy. If I could fit that jacket Ocho head on the other day, boy. You can fit it, Joe. You can fit it. You can fit it.
1:02:27You can fit it. It was the XL. You can fit it. Oh, yeah. I would've got that up off. No, I can't. But that's OK. Your day coming though, Joe. Ocho, he can't win nothing else. You see how he talk? You see how he talk reckless? Hey, you know why he not going to win nothing else? Because he doing too much talking now. Man, listen, listen. That's not what he, Ocho, that's not what you do. You ain't no talker. Ocho, I really did this for bread and meat, man. If I didn't win, I didn't eat. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You won't eat that day.
1:03:00You going to be sitting in the corner. You going to be sitting in the corner, Ocho. Man, let your boy hold something. That's all it takes. It don't take me one little thing just to set me off. And see, Unk set me off and they go. Now y 'all couldn't turn me off then. I was on. Ocho, you see how, uh, uh, uh, uh. Tracee Morgan, that old boy, when Joe said, let me get something, no. Nope. Yeah, all that talking, remember this. Hey, Chad, we got another episode for y 'all coming up. There you go, look at it. Look at it, you see it, Mocho? You see it, Mocho? I mean, I just said they gonna be entertained.
1:03:38They gonna be entertained. That's what they're here today. They want to be entertained, guys. This is what we here for. Yeah, all right. I got hurt. You got hurt? Hey, boy, hey, when I tell you, when I tell you guys from my left, my knee, my glutes almost pulled, my glute pulled it with, y 'all. Hey, hey, hey, Chad, I'm gonna say one thing. I ain't gonna bring it up no more. Uncle Ocho, I'm gonna leave it alone. But that move of the rip, boy, ain't got nothing on what I did to Uncle Ocho earlier that day. Oh, see? There you go. There you go. There you go. You see, Chad? There you go. Hey, you always talking about, man.
1:04:14Hey, man, you need to chill on Ocho and Iso. Man, you need to do this. Nah, look at what he doing now. You see what I'm talking about? Okay. Hey, see what the problem is? We done created a monster. We done created a monster. It's dropping Tuesday after the Super Bowl, Ocho. Okay, okay, okay. What a perfect timing, boy. Hey, make me look good, Nat. Make me look good. That's all right. Your day coming, Ocho. Yeah, no, your day coming, Joe. your date, Ocho, your date been passed. I got another date coming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ocho date been passed. But Joe will get exactly what's coming from him.
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