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11:22Shannon Sharpe:Give me a practice off here and there. Yeah. But Max, a cousin say, man, I'm tired of this ish. You hear me? You hear me? Man, stop hitting me. You hear me? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. God's wrath is going to come down on you, buddy. I can hear. Max say, man, get out of my damn face before I hit your ass again. I can hear him now.

11:47Shannon Sharpe:You can hear what?

11:48Joe Johnson:I can hear Kirk Cousins. You know he on Kirk. I didn't know he was a pastor, though. You know he on Kirk. He is? Kirk Cousin here? Man, I don't tell him to. You know, Joe, he heavy now. He heavy into, what, maybe Christianity or whatever it may be. Yeah. He got in trouble. Remember he got fined after the game wearing a hat with the cross on it? Yeah. Yeah, Joe, he heavy. Very religious. Very religious. I bet he don't curse. I could imagine him trying to talk trash.

12:21Shannon Sharpe:Oh, he not let Phil rip. God dog it.

12:24Joe Johnson:Darn it.

12:25Shannon Sharpe:Dang it. Jesus. Give me the crickets.

12:32Shannon Sharpe:Chop shucks. Oh, man. No, hey. It's hard. Do you know how hard it is not to cuss as a professional? A professional athlete?

12:44Joe Johnson:Man. It doesn't even sound right. Listening to... Damn it! Hey, listen to Phillip Rivers. You know, Phillip Rivers don't curse. Listen to it. How you talking? God darn it. It just don't sound right. It just don't sound right. It's funny hearing him talk because he got like a country little accent. It just, I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. I mean, listen, I tell people all the time, you can have an extensive vocabulary and curse as well because I like cursing to me, I call it it's a sentence enhancer. Whatever point I'm trying to get across, like I could tell my kids, man, y 'all get down from there.

13:30Joe Johnson:They ain't gonna listen to that. If I say, man, y 'all get the fuck down. It's different. It's delivery. I don't know what it is about cursing. It just, it makes a sentence sound so much better. And the meaning, it changes the meaning. Hey, Ocho, when you were growing up, is that how your grandma and your mama talked to you? My mama? My grandma? Yeah. Man. But Joe, you ain't met Hurricane Paula, Joe. But just to give you an example, and I'm sure most of the people in the chat, I did a show called Marriage Boot Camp, family edition. The whole point of the show was to find a way to get me and my mama to redeem the relationship as a mother and a son should have, because we were always rocky, Joe.

14:16Joe Johnson:My grandma raised me, things weren't right between me and my mama. Yeah. Joe, when I tell you my mama showed out every episode of the marriage recant, Joe, cursing out the producers, cursing me out, cursing out the other people on the show, my mama was TV gold, and she had no idea about it. She left the show early, told the producers, fuck you and fuck you, mail me my check for the hours I done put in, and left. And left. Damn. No, Joe, my mama, boy, she was a trip. Hey, boy, your mama was a gangster, wasn't you, man? She did not play.

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16:23Joe Johnson:And people won't understand. People say, how you live like that? See, I'm used to it. So your norm is different from my norm. I'm used to that. So y 'all looking at me crazy, but that's what you had to deal with. but it was normal for me. Based on my upbringing and my surroundings, that's normal. For other people, they were like, oh my God. How you live like, what you mean live like that? It wasn't like that in your household? It's normal where I'm from. Joe, hey Joe.

16:53Shannon Sharpe:Joe, you cursed your, I just looked at my kids. Yeah.

17:00Joe Johnson:They start crying?

17:02Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I ain't got to do no person. Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm not finna do all that. But look, their mom had already told them, because what you do over here, you're not going to be able to do that at your dad's house. So all that running through the house and jumping on the bed and doing all that other stuff, you're not going to be that dude over there. So don't go over there trying that, because you know how your dad is.

17:23Chad Johnson:Yep.

17:26Shannon Sharpe:No, I ain't finna get my blood pressure up and all that yelling and screaming. Hey, go down to the basement. Go down to the basement. Y 'all want to do all that yelling and screaming. Go down there. Play them video. You got video games. You got all them video games. You got the big screen TV that you can just, hey, do whatever y 'all want to do. But, hey, don't be running through this house opening, just opening, slamming doors up and down. No. Run up and down in them basement steps. Stay down there.

17:52Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe. I remember, boy. I'll never forget. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, man. We can't be tearing up. Not tonight. But listen, boy, we had a thing all these years. You are not a friend of mine. You're not a friend of mine if you ain't been around long enough. If my mama ain't never cussed you out, you ain't really my friend. Man, your mom cussed your friends out. Everybody that was associated with me from the time I was young to when she passed away, everybody got it. I got it. My kids got it. My grandma got it. Those that have kids from got it. I was so nervous to bring her to certain event, Joe, because I know once she get that lick in her system, ain't no telling what's going to happen.

18:42Joe Johnson:You hear me? What was her drink, old Joe? That goddamn seagram gin. That gin? That bumping thing? Oh, she's drinking that naughty head. She's drinking that naughty head, Joe. She get that seagram gin and mix it with that ruby red, that Tropicana? Grapefruit juice. Joe, boy, she going to give you what you looking for, boy. Ocho. Ocho. Boy, that bumpy face, boy. That's starting to come.

19:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that's what they call it. They call it that bumpy face, that naughty head. Hey. Hey. Hey. Boy, look at the guys. Every guy that drank that secret. Yeah. Look at the head, Ocho. Oh, that tango ray?

19:22Joe Johnson:Yeah. Oh, but what? Ooh. Let me tell you how bad it was. at the funeral. Boy, we got a house full for the funeral, boy. And the pastor up there, the pastor lived right across the street from my grandma's house, right? So the pastor, he up there talking, and he talking about, man, we know we done had some great memories with her old hurricane. And I want to see how many of y 'all can share some of those memories y 'all had with her. So instead of having everybody come up here and talk, I'm going to ask the congregation, I'm going to ask the people, if you have ever been cussed out by Ms. Paula, Please stand up.

19:59Joe Johnson:Boy, the whole church stood up. When I tell you that, it was not one person sitting at that church, man. And that was one of the best moments and one of the best laughs, man, I had, you know, during that time. Oh, man. Boy, the stories. Boy, she on that.

20:17Shannon Sharpe:Ooh, that Seagram. Hey, Joe, you know, back in the day, they said, you get Seagram. Hey, let me get a 50 cent shot. Let me get a dollar shot. and joke, hey, Ocho, that joke of hair, that joke of hair be dragging that right there, they got that beachy back hair. You comb it to the front, it beats you to the back. Yeah! Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey. You got to be an all-man to drag that joke.

20:45Chad Johnson:Boy, hey, if you was off that gin, her ass was in trouble that night, Ocho. Hey. Oh, yes, sir. Oh, yes, sir.

20:52Joe Johnson:It's so funny. This is what I don't like, too. Obviously, there were therapists and there were doctors and counselors on the show. And they purposely, they purposely, they bought us in, different family, they bought us in to get us help, but also had a bar. And every morning, cameras rolling, cameras all through the house, two weeks. We had two weeks locked in the same house together. Every morning - With a bar. ... she'll get that seagram gin and that ruby red and mix it together to start the morning. And boy, when I tell you, boy, she let the producers have it, boy. Hey, Chad, I don't know if y 'all saw that, man.

21:28Joe Johnson:You got to go back. You got to go back and just look at the clips of my mama, man, acting a fool. And that was really her.

21:36Shannon Sharpe:If you from the South, them old heads, they had a pint, that Seagram, that knotty head. That hard little scribble. They have it in their little brown bag. They have it in their little... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They peel that little top off, get you a little bit of... You already know what's in there. Oh, damn. Yeah, man. Them jokes... Hey. Hey. Jokes work all day. Man, what? I'm talking about it could talk up a storm, boy.

22:06Joe Johnson:Hey, um, hey, you ever seen that clip? Hey, Joe, you know, also, right, they put us through little situations, right? So in general, there was a mock funeral, right? So to get my mama to see why we need to mend our relationship. Listen, y 'all need to mend your relationship because what happens if you lose your son? So one of the lessons we went through was a mock funeral, Joe. I was in a real casket. So the whole point is to get my mama to see, listen, you need to do right and fix your relationship because this could be your son. Something might happen to Chad at the end. How would you feel? I'm in the real casket, Joe.

22:48And the lady asking her, now you see your son in the casket,

22:53Joe Johnson:how do you feel? Shit, I don't feel shit. Hold on, Joe. Hold on, Joe. Joe, we on live TV, Joe. I don't feel nothing. Matter of fact, matter of fact, letting baby mamas roll his ass her patio. Oh, man. Man, damn. Damn. Joe, you got to see the clip. Joe, you got to ask. I know your wife might be watching, Joe. You got to tell your wife, seeing the clip of the mock funeral, of my mama telling him, man, let the baby mama roll his ass up out of here. Damn. I can't do it, Joe. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, your mama was a whole thug. I am what? But she did not play. Once she get that liquor in her system, it's a wrap.

23:38Oh, man. It's a wrap. Damn.

23:40Joe Johnson:Damn. Boy, she ain't play, boy. She don't care.

23:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I'm glad I ain't had no drinking problem like that, man.

23:51Chad Johnson:But you seen it, though, coming up. You know some people. Oh, yeah, for sure.

23:54Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. For sure, absolutely. Man, them guys get drunk out there in the field, and, man, we end up leaving. They go out there in the woods somewhere, Joe. We don't see them till the next day. They done be done passed out there to be on that white pole. to be on that wine. They be drinking, they have that Noddy Head, that Seagram's. Somebody talk about Bombay Sapphire. Bombay Sapphire, wasn't nobody drinking no Bombay Sapphire back then. Bombay Sapphire became a thing in the mid-90s, in 2000s. They weren't drinking no Bombay Sapphire back then. I knew something. They drank that moonshine, though.

24:29Shannon Sharpe:Man, look here, moonshine, man. You might as well just drink gasoline. Hey, hey, hey. Oh, hold on. Oh, Joe. My grandma used to make that moonshine, boy. Hey, he used to make that moonshine, that wine. Boy, hey. Hey, you drunk back there in that shed. I had a time for making moonshine. Yeah. Oh, I had a, what you call them? I had my sister to give some. You know, people, they ain't going to tell them about it. Well, this was a long time ago. I don't think they still run and shine now like they used to. That's what they call it, run and shine. But yeah, and had it in a mason jar. Yeah, in that big mason jar.

25:07That big joint. Yeah. Oh, man. I'm telling you. You want some, Joe?

25:13Chad Johnson:Man, my grandpa used to have it. And I ain't going to lie, you know, back in the day, you know, we used to take little swigs here and there. But that ain't nothing to play with, boy.

25:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, we used to do my grandma Morgan David like that because, you know, she was the mother of the church. So she was responsible for communion. Me and my brother be drinking that Morgan David, put some water in that and shake it up a little bit. Yeah. Hey. Hey, look, but that's what I'll be talking about. Man, my grandpa was a deacon. He was an usher. He was all that. But hell, he had it jumping back there in that shed in the backyard. You hear me? Ocho, Ocho. Joe, them the ones. The ones that be in the church, them the ones. I'm talking about having a jump. I'm talking about, look, you had cats pulling up, man.

25:58I'm trying to. He come out there with a gallon.

26:00Chad Johnson:He giving gallons away. Man, got so much back there in that shed. I'm like, damn. So, you know, we had to sneak back there and get us a little taste, just see what's going on. You know, as kids, when we ain't supposed to be back there, you know, we go back there and sip on the little wine and all that. Yeah.

26:15Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. My grandfather, my grandparents, they stopped drinking. So, you know, she said, Barney's like, man, you know what? I want to stop drinking. Barney's like, it didn't make me no different. I wanted to stop anyway. So they ain't really drinking. They ain't really drinking. He smoked cigars, chewed tobacco. She dipped snuff, chewed tobacco. So we used to kill they snuff in tobacco, though. My grandma, she had a honeybee. I was dipping snuff like six, seven years old, dipping snuff. Damn.

26:45Joe Johnson:Snuff, what's that?

26:47Shannon Sharpe:It's crushed up tobacco. Oh, OK, OK, OK, OK. Real fine, yes. Yeah, it's in a can.

26:55Shannon Sharpe:Hold on, you used to have that big knock down there. Yeah, I did that, man. I did that, hey.

27:03Shannon Sharpe:Man, hey, because I usually, I see my grandma, my grandfather. My grandfather had a, he chewed a Levi Garrett or a bullet of wood, the cut, the blocks that you cut off with the knife. Hey, they still do that nowadays? They still dip that little stuff. Yeah, hell yeah, they do. Boy, I mean, hey, ain't going to lie. There used to be some cats back in the day who used to keep that in their back pocket. They come out there flipping that thing like that there. Huh? Oh, yeah. You talking about that skull? Yeah. and that Kodiak. They hit that can right there, and now they got the little pouches. Now, because before they didn't have the pouches, you just had to put the dip.

27:38Shannon Sharpe:Now they got the pouches in there. Oh, yeah, they still do it. Yeah.

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30:47Shannon Sharpe:Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Sean Mannion says he wants to lean into the tush push during the first season. It's going to be a part of what we do. It's been an extremely effective play. We're going to lean into that. It's something that this organization has executed at a high level. So along with many other elements of our offense, certainly it's something that will be a part of it. Since the Eagles fired Kevin Petula, Mannion has began installing the offense style Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay. Jalen Hurts told reporters the Eagles are still working on calibrating to Manion's new offense during training camp.

31:21Shannon Sharpe:We've got a lot of new pieces, entirely new approach, and MO, motor operation, philosophy to our offense, Hurts said. What you think? What you think they're going to look like? Joe, what you think they're going to look like? Because he is an offshoot of Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, all those guys came up under that Mike Shanahan tree. So what you thinking? You like this addition for the Philadelphia Eagles offense? Sean Mannion coming in and installing this offense. Jalen Hurts, Devontae Smith, Saquon Barkley, McCash Lemon, who's nursing a hamstring injury, Dallas Guarded. That offensive line is going to be back intact.

32:04Shannon Sharpe:You like this addition? Yeah, I like it. I want him to open it up, though, Uncle Nocho. Let Jalen Hurts kind of, you know what I mean, have free reigns, let him be able to create, improvise on the fly. You know what I mean? I felt like over the past some odd years, man, even in the years that they won the Super Bowl, I felt like he's kind of been restrained a little bit. You know what I mean? I want to see him be able to improvise, man, and really put him stamp on his offense. Considering the fact that, you know, you just lost A.J. Brown, bro, and I know they brought in a nice young rookie, But at the same time, I want to see the young man flourish, bro.

32:43I want to see him open it up.

32:45Joe Johnson:Listen, I'm curious to see what that offense looks like. You know, new offensive coordinator. They didn't like the last one. A lot of people complained about the passing game. There were a lot of injuries last year. I don't know what it will look like, but I want Jalen Hurst to have a good season. I want him to succeed. I think they're one of the few teams where they can run the ball first to open up the pass because Saquon is so good, because that offensive line is so good. I'm just curious. I'm hoping everybody stays healthy too. Hey, for them to play well, Joe, especially the Eagles, everybody has to stay healthy.

33:25Chad Johnson:Hey, not only they got to stay healthy, but can Saquon get back to being the guy who he was, you know, not last year, but the year before? I think that makes a world of a difference too, aren't you, Ocho?

33:35Joe Johnson:Joe, some of them linemen was hurt last year, boy. Defense took. Oh, yeah? I think some of them linemen was hurt, especially the main one. Lane Johnson was hurt last year.

33:45Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Lane was hurt.

33:49Shannon Sharpe:Dickinson was nicked up. Jurgensen. Jurgens, not Jurgensen. Jurgens. It seems to me, watching, looking at this offense from a distance, is that the defense said, we're not letting Saquon get loose. We're going to make Jalen Hurts beat us throwing the football. Yeah. And we want him to beat us throwing the football from the pocket. Look, every time they get a good offensive coordinator, they go far and somebody signs them as a head coach. We saw that happen when they went to the Super Bowl, even though they lost, they lost their head coach to Indy. And then guess what? They win the Super Bowl and then they lose their head coach.

34:30Shannon Sharpe:they lose the offensive coordinator until he becomes the head coach of New Orleans. So, and that's just the way it goes. You're not keeping good coaches. If you think you're going to get a, oh, man, we can't. No, and you shouldn't. They're leaving. Every time. Somebody's going to take them off your hand. Every time. That's just the way it is. Look at all the guys that was on Kyle Shanahan's staff. All the guys that was on McVay's staff. They got their coaching jobs. LaFleur in Green Bay. They got LaFleur in Arizona. They got O 'Connell. And they got the guy, Zach Taylor. It's just the way it is.

35:16You got in Houston.

35:20Shannon Sharpe:What's his name? He a D coordinator, but I'm saying it. When you got good coaches, when your teams win, And when you're successful, you're going to start losing coaches. You're going to lose coordinators. You're going to lose position coaches because it's a tried and true method. You win. Teams want to win.

35:39Shannon Sharpe:So I think the thing is that Jalen Hurts, they're going to have to, you know, they like to put the ball, be up on the center, take the ball from on the center, and they're going to make Jalen Hurts beat him throwing the football. Yep. We know Saquon. We know what Saquon can do. I'm not going to let him run for 150, 60 yards because we can't beat him. If they're doing that, because now when he sticks that ball in Saquon's belly and pull it out, okay, pause.

36:11Shannon Sharpe:But when he play fake, guys got wide open running down the downfield. Man, you remember how when Saquon first got to Saquon's first year and he almost broke Edie's record? Man, play action pass was wide ass open. Because they had, hey, you got to drop that eighth man down there because if you don't, that offensive line is going to blow your ass off the ball. That's why Jalen Hurts got to open that thing up. If they're going to have eight in the box. They're going to have to. You got to be a playmaker, bro. I mean, I'm excited. Because I only can pay these guys so much, Ocho, for so long. Now, you see, they played 2D linemen.

36:48Shannon Sharpe:Guess what? Quentin Michael and what you call them? Cooper DeJong comes up. What you going to do, JoJo? You can't keep both of them.

36:57Joe Johnson:You can't. Not with the way you paid. Not with the way you paid Cox.

37:03Shannon Sharpe:Jalen Carter.

37:04Joe Johnson:And Mr. Carter. Now, you can't pay Cooper.

37:06Shannon Sharpe:Jordan Davis.

37:07Joe Johnson:I mean, excuse me. Jordan Davis. You can't pay Cooper DeJong and Keon Mitchell. Keon Mitchell, top three right now. He top three. He's not your average defensive back. Like, no, he's one of the elites in the game already.

37:21Shannon Sharpe:Yes. And De 'Juan, he going to want his money. You got to. I mean, it's tough. And the thing is with him is that at least you can put a fifth-year option on Mitchell. Oh, oh, oh. Is that his name, Mitchell? Keon Mitchell, yeah. Keon Mitchell? Keon, okay. Kobe De 'Juan is a second-round pick, so you can't put a fifth-year option on him. He got four years. He going to want to do something. Four-two something. Yeah, I think this might. Jalen Hurts. What are you going to do? Jalen Hurts is going to be looking, hey, he's like, I have a good year. I'm going to be looking for me some more money, too.

37:53Joe Johnson:Yeah. And I hope Jalen Hurts' good year, too, is showing everybody and shutting up all the doubters, all the naysayers that I told y 'all I can throw. I told y 'all I can throw. Now, we don't need, our offense doesn't need me to throw the ball 50, 60 times a game. That's not what we do. We're not structured like that. But when it's time to throw the ball, let me show y 'all I can do just that.

38:16Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Quinyon. but yeah the eagle the the just offense just looked archaic it's just like okay we're gonna run it oh now we can't run it let's throw it third down first down run the ball to saquon hand off to saquon quarterback now let the quarterback throw it man look i understand that your quarterback is is a big powerful guy he squats 600 pounds and all that oh cho man you can't be running that man like that. Let him throw the ball. He was quarterback. Let him throw the ball.

38:47Joe Johnson:But you got to understand, the formula in which they had with that quarterback, with that running back, that squash like that, that's how he was able to get that chip. Running the ball first, then throwing it where they have to. And the players was making those plays in the air. But they rolled that Super Bowl. Man, boy, it was hell, that year, boy. Everything was working. But you know, Ocho, you got to adapt.

39:14Shannon Sharpe:Man, you can't run the same out. Man, them people going to catch on to that issue.

39:17Joe Johnson:Yeah, they going to adapt. Especially once it's out on film, they going to adapt. I can tell you what they're going to do this year. They finna stack by eight, nine in the box. I can tell you that.

39:28Shannon Sharpe:Yes. You're right. We're going to find out. We're going to find out. They got to go. Philly Eagles fans, you got a new offensive coordinator. You say you was Tyler Petula. And so we're about to find out. Yes, sir. We're about to find out.

39:55Shannon Sharpe:Aaron Rodgers says he lost his love for playing football for the Jets, and Mike Tomlin helped him restore his love for the game. Let's take a listen to what Aaron had to say. Damn. There's been times in the last three off seasons where I felt like maybe it is time. But doors open, and I just tried to listen to the signs. I might have even listened to the wrong signs by going to New York, but it was a good learning experience, you know, and I learned a lot during that process. And I am thankful for that time there, and I'm thankful for last year with Coach Tomlin because he helped me get that love back, that deep love back for the game.

40:33Yeah. That, you know, tearing my Achilles and going through a year of rehab and just never feeling like myself, it just kind of beats you up a little bit. And I didn't want that to be my ending in the game that I love so much. And Mike and being around the guys got me that love back. And I was content in walking away. And then they hired Mike McCarthy. And I was like, okay, maybe we need a full circle here. Me and Mike need a full circle here.

41:02Shannon Sharpe:It's tough, man. Oh, man, Joe, you know this. When we age and to come back from an injury, When you young and spry, you bounce back, man. You get in your late 30s. You get in your 40s. And to try to come back from an injury. And guess what? Injuries, there's two things that make a player lose their love for the game. Injuries and losing.

41:27Joe Johnson:And losing, yep. Hey, I was just getting ready to say that. Now, it's one thing, Joe and Unk, to get injured and know you're coming back to a winning environment. It's one thing to come back and to go to an environment like New York, where everything is based on you, on your plate. We want you to be the Aaron Rodgers of O and bring that magic you had with you in Green Bay. At his age, no, it's not happening. You got to understand, no disrespect to the quarterback that the New York Jets have had. Chad Pennington, Mark Sanchez, Geno Smith, Sam Darnold. Nobody's been able to do it, Joe. They've had a merry-go-round of quarterbacks for an extremely long time, and I think they viewed Aaron Rodgers as their savior.

42:09Joe Johnson:I mean, that's the way they viewed him. We expected you to change our franchise around at your age based on what you've done in the past. And it just wasn't a good environment for them in general. It just wasn't.

42:19Chad Johnson:It's hard. It's hard when you go to a losing culture, a losing team, and you have all these great expectations, bro, and you come up short on top of injuries, yeah, that'll help you lose your love for the game. Yeah, you go, hey, hey, man, they're losing, boy. They're losing to try you for real. Sure will. Yeah, so I know what he's talking about.

42:44Shannon Sharpe:It absolutely will. I think the thing is also, Ocho, is that I don't think he got up to the great best start because you go to a new team and then in OTA, the offseason, you're not really there. You know the offense because your offensive coordinator, he was there with you in Green Bay. So you know the offense. If you look at the other two big-name guys that left that he would be comparable to, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, what did they do? They immediately went in and started working with their receivers. They immediately went in and started working with the offense. Now, I don't know kind of what happened in Tampa, but I know they turned it over, Peyton, what do you want to do?

43:16Shannon Sharpe:Peyton ran practice. Oh, yeah. He's like, I want this, I want this, I want this, I want this. The meetings, okay, that's what he did. Tom remember they threw Tom out of the park because he was supposed to be hey they were in Tampa they were at the high school you weren't supposed to what? so you weren't supposed to be you know communicate you weren't supposed to be in close proximity

43:40Chad Johnson:yeah

43:41Shannon Sharpe:so they came back and said nah bro we're not gonna let you do that and plus they needed more than Aaron Rodgers to overcome that funk that stench that is in New York

43:53Joe Johnson:Hey, and Joe, you have to understand Peyton Manning and his success, Tom Brady and success, quarterbacks are only good as a supporting cast. Absolutely. I will always live by that. They are only as good as a supporting cast. It's one thing to be a great quarterback, but you got that supporting cast with you to support. Yeah. It makes a different animal. It makes their job easy, especially when they're already great. I mean, going to New York, I'm not here to have a pissing contest. I'm just saying, hey, what do you got in the work with? What we got? No, no, no, no, no. We got Brees Hall. We got Garrett Wilson.

44:31Joe Johnson:I mean, come on now. I need more than that to work with. Yeah. I'm trying to cook. If I'm trying to cook a full a full course meal, you can't just give me my two sides.

44:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I think I think the thing is, is that we got to look now. Peyton was out for a year. He had that surgery and he wasn't the same Peyton. He was good. He was still – he came back. He was a first-team All-Pro his first year in Denver. The next year he came back, he won the MVP. How he wasn't a unanimous MVP with 55 touchdowns, which is the NFL record, 54 over 5 ,400 yards, which is an NFL record, 13-3, which had the best record in the NFL. How that's not unanimous MVP, you see, again, you put up numbers like that and that's not a unanimous MVP.

45:18Joe Johnson:Yes, sir.

45:18Shannon Sharpe:And you know there's always one voter that's going to hate. But with that being said, I think the thing is, look, there is no denying Aaron Rodgers' greatness. You don't win four MVPs, win a Super Bowl, Super Bowl MVP, the greatest touchdown to interception ratio in NFL history without being great. And he is great. He's historically great. But I think the thing is, is that Peyton and Tom elicit a little bit more belief from their teammates than Aaron. That's not a knock on Aaron. But is there something about those guys and to see how those guys – I've never heard anybody say anything negative about Tom, be it the first guy.

45:59Shannon Sharpe:And I think Tom's situation is a little different, Ocho, because Tom was a lot like me. When we come in, bro, I'm a seventh-round draft pick. He's a sixth-round draft pick. How you going to give people your butt to kiss? You just hope you make it the next day. Yeah, right. Peyton, because of his personality and how he was raised, number one overall pick, he knows everybody. Peyton knows everybody in the damn building. From the security at the door to the lunch lady. He knows everybody by first damn name. Tom is the same way. And it's just something about that. John gave us that. We believe, man, look here.

46:43Shannon Sharpe:Sometimes you go into a game and you hope. Ain't no hope. Man, if we do this and the defense could give us a couple of turnovers, we got seven, we all right. That's a different type of swing. We got seven, we all right. Y 'all don't got seven. We got it. Yeah. And you better be up by more than two touchdowns with five minutes to go because if we got the ball and we score and our defense gets you out the field, oh, we're going to tie the game up. Hello. We're going to tie the game up. It's really that simple. But I think Aaron said, you know, made the decision to go to the Jets. But, bro, once you get to a certain age, Joe, your choices are limited.

47:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Now, Aaron Rodgers at 31, damn near got 15 teams that he can go to. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers at 39-40, ain't got 15 teams he can go to. Right.

47:42Joe Johnson:Hey, I thought he was going to go to Minnesota. Didn't he have an opportunity to go to Minnesota? I thought he was going to go to Minnesota. Yeah, yeah. I thought he was going to follow him in Brett Favre's footsteps, go to Minnesota.

47:52Shannon Sharpe:He did follow Brett Favre's footsteps. He went to the Jets. That's where Brett went. He retired and ended up going to Minnesota. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. So, yeah. Even Peyton. Peyton didn't have 20 teams. First, he's older, coming off the injury. But he only had like four or five, three teams. I think the Broncos, Arizona, San Francisco, and Tennessee. I think those are the only teams that Peyton was willing to consider based on the roster. Yeah. Because, you know, hey, we know San Francisco had a loaded roster. That defense, whoo, Justin Smith, Navarro Bowman, Patrick Willis, They were loaded defensively.

48:40Shannon Sharpe:Frank Gore, they had Vernon Davis. They had a nice crab tree. So they had some weapons. If I'm not mistaken, I think Moss had came back that year, Ocho, and played with the 49ers. So he's looking at that. He looked at it like – and then he looked at the Broncos. He's like, hold on. Demarius Thomas? That man, 24? Yeah. Decker, 25? Eric Decker. Julius Thomas? No Sean Marino? Ooh, they had him. They got Vaughn. They got Chris Harris Jr. They got Bradley Robey. Yeah. Only missing piece was a quarterback. That's all they – Ocho, think about this. They won the division, and Tebow was the quarterback.

49:23Shannon Sharpe:Congratulations. But come on now. Let's be real, fans. This ain't a lot, but let's come on now. I give you a choice. You can have Tebow for another two years, or you can get Peyton Manning even if it's for one year. Who you taking? Manning all day. Everybody knows that. So that was a no-brainer. They's like, hold on. You won the division in Tebow completing 47 % of the passes?

49:45Joe Johnson:Remember that walk-off touchdown when Tebow hit DeMaris Thomas on that bang 8? He hit DT on Ike Taylor.

49:51Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. Hit him on a slant. Mm-hmm.

49:56Chad Johnson:Walked it off. Hey, hey, hey. Hold on. You said something interesting because why them been in this position to where Ocho, I'm sure you probably been in this position too to where you go in games and you're like, damn, boy, I sure hope we get a win tonight. But it's some teams I done been on. Man, we going, no, we finna kick some. You know what I'm talking about?

50:16Shannon Sharpe:We expect a win. Ooh.

50:18Joe Johnson:Yeah.

50:18Chad Johnson:Ain't nothing like that feeling, though. Ain't nothing like that.

50:22Joe Johnson:Joe, that year I was in New England, I knew coming hella high water, no matter who was playing, Joe was coming away with a W, Joe. Joe was coming away with a W no matter what. It didn't matter. And ain't no telling who was going to go crazy. It would have been Aaron Hernandez. It could have been Gronk. It could have been Wes Welker. It could have been Julian Edelman.

50:42Chad Johnson:Damn.

50:42Joe Johnson:You know, it could have been Deion Brett. Man, it was stupid. Well, y 'all had a whip over there. And I ain't even mention the running game.

50:50Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But see, there's a hope, and then there's an expectation to win. Yeah. And then when we got Mike, I mean, we had other coaches. We hoping, man, if everything goes well, you know, man, Man, look here. If the eagle fly down on that flagpole at 1 o 'clock and, you know, I had this for breakfast, we can win this game. Hey, I see Sam sitting in his locker with his back to me. Yeah. Yeah, we going to win. We going to win this game. But, look, it's tough when we start to get older, the injuries start to pile up, and we lose it. Damn, Mocho. Yeah. Joe, damn, can I get one or the other? Either I lose and be healthy, or damn, be into the wind.

51:36Shannon Sharpe:Damn, I can't have two negatives. There's some challenges going with it. I'm in New York. It's cold, Ocho. Man, you know already with that thing cold, you out there, hands in your pocket. Joe, you got your hands in your hoodie. That wind whipping. That wind blowing, you turn your back like.

51:57Damn. Ain't doing nothing out there, boy. Hey, listen.

52:02Chad Johnson:I used to be watching. I'm talking about, man, it be so cold out there. It look like it hurt if you touch somebody, let alone hit him.

52:09Shannon Sharpe:What? It be cold, Joe, the game, but the adrenaline get going. You got hot seats on there. And practice is where it gets you. Yeah. Because ain't no adrenaline going. And you just standing around, man.

52:24Joe Johnson:Y 'all ain't had the heater on the sideline. We had the heater.

52:27Shannon Sharpe:When we got to Baltimore, Brian Billick, We actually ran it like a game. So the offense could be on the sideline on the heaters when the defense was up, and then vice versa, the defense goes on to get on the heaters when the offense up. But Mike, hell no.

52:41Joe Johnson:Yeah, hey, Joe, we had not the heated benches, but during practice, we had the heaters just plugged up. You know, the big, what you call them, blowers? Oh, those blowers? Yeah, we had the blowers on the sideline, so it was good.

52:52Shannon Sharpe:Man, I'm saying burn your ass, man. Yeah, I just. You're smoking it.

52:55Joe Johnson:You caught on fire. And the funny thing about it too, Uncle Joe, is I'm from Miami. me, born and raised all my life, I enjoyed when it got cold. Because every time it was hot, Joe, I had to get me an IV from September to October until it started getting cold in November, December. I couldn't wait until it got cold because that means I could play the whole game. I ain't got to get no IV. So you used to hydrate or something, Ocho? This job, I used to drink as much water as I could without it forcing me to have to use the bathroom during the game. Joe, I cramp up in my left or my right calf every game when it's hot.

53:27Joe Johnson:Only my calf muscle. That's it.

53:30Shannon Sharpe:Them little ass calves you got cramping up.

53:33Joe Johnson:Hey, hey, my calves the size of your head. Boy, look how big my calves are, Joe.

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57:03Shannon Sharpe:Jamar Chase spoke about his one major goal for 2026. The only goal I have for myself is going forward to get 23 touchdowns. I want to break my record. But you mean a Randy's record? That's not my full goal every day. My goal is to get better than I was the last day, trying to get my team better and where we were the last day, and just trying to be better than I was last year. I'm trying to stay more consistent. Technically, he needs 24 touchdowns to break Randy Moss' receiving record. Ocho, is this a realistic goal? Do you think this is possible for Chase to break Randy's record with T on the other side?

57:46Joe Johnson:Yeah, absolutely. With the volume of passes that come his way with the many opportunities that Jamar Chase gets and what he can do with the ball. And they use him in a multitude of ways. You have to understand. They put him in the backfield. They put him in the slot. You know, when they go three receivers to one side, he can be on the inside. He can be in the middle. He can be on the outside. They use him in so many different ways. They can put him in motion. They can condense the splits. And not only is he a deep threat, but what's scary about Jamar Chase is he can take a short pass and go to distance.

58:16Joe Johnson:He can take an intermediate pass and go to distance. So very well, much so, can he break that NFL record or Randy Moss' record of 23 touchdowns and getting 24 in doing so? And the funny thing about it is I know it's a team game. It's a team sport. But the whole point is you got 11 people, 11 on offense and 11 on defense. When each individual has a goal of being their best and then being as consistent as they possibly can within the team dynamic, it makes everyone else around them better. It makes everybody else's job easy when an individual like that has those type of goals.

58:52Shannon Sharpe:Let's phrase it like this. Yes. Because can he? Yeah. I mean, Devontae Adams has 18. Chase, I think his most touchdowns in the season is 17. My brother had 18 one year. I think Duper had 18. Jerry had 22. Randy broke his record. Will he, I think, is a better term. Can he? Yeah, there are several guys we know that touched the ball. JSN, when you get that many targets, Ochoa, when you get 160, 170 targets, the likelihood, but the thing is, is that if you notice, Randy had a lot of bombs. Yes. They hit Randy on a lot of 40 and 50-yard touchdowns. So the question is, can he? Yes. Will he?

59:29Joe Johnson:I think so. That's why the first thing I did is I interjected and saying not just deep passes, it's what he can do after the catch when he gets short in intermediate routes. The fact that he can make people miss. The fact that if you don't wrap him up, he'll bounce off a tackle, which we've seen many a times throughout his career. He'll bounce off a tackle from a linebacker or a safety and take it to the house. So simply because he's so goddamn good with the ball in his hands and in chat, That's G-O-T, not G-O-D. He's so goddamn good with the ball in his hands. Ain't no telling what he could do once he put his mind to it.

1:00:02Joe Johnson:Ain't no Joe. They have such an unbelievable chemistry, you know, throughout the years with transition from college to the NFL. I think that's why they play so well together.

1:00:11Chad Johnson:Hey, Joe, what you thinking? Hey, when you think about it, I love his energy, Uncle Ocho. That's what I'm talking about. That's how I want my receivers to come in thinking. You know what I mean? I want you to chase greatness, bro. Hey, listen, and you said something that was important, Ocho. Yes, sir. The rapport that Burrow and Chase has, hey, man, Burrow already know. He know to get that boy the ball. He ain't going to play no game. So I think the opportunities are there. You just got to stay healthy and, you know, be focused enough every week to know, man, look, I'm trying to put my stamp on the game.

1:00:44Chad Johnson:You know the focus and intensity that you got to come every week, bro. You can't get nothing away. You know what I mean? You got to leave it out there on the field at all times. But I think he got an opportunity to do it, bro. I love his energy.

1:00:56Joe Johnson:Yeah. And you know what else I like about today's game, Unk and Joe? What's that? When it comes to players that are the number one and you have defenses, whenever you line up to play the Cincinnati Bengals, defenses scheme and they make their adjustments based on what Jamar Chase has lined up. And the fact that they move him around so much, it makes it difficult for defenses to key on exactly where he's going to be.

1:01:17Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:01:18Joe Johnson:I mean, it just makes it that much easier, Joe. And I'm just thinking about when I was playing and when the team decided to take me away, Joe, that was it. That was it. You know, I wasn't able to do all that moving around. They didn't use me that way because we had TJ and TJ was much more savvy, you know, in the slot. And being able to understand the man in the zone and the coverage and just being able to manipulate those dudes, you know, in the interior. And if they decided that, you know, the double meet and they wanted to take me out of the game, I had no choice but to just, okay, I'm going to just deal with it.

1:01:51Joe Johnson:My passes come. If I get two or three balls, I got to make the most of them two or three catches.

1:01:56Shannon Sharpe:Right. I think the thing is that there are a couple of games he's going to have to explode because, Ocho, you know the likelihood of him scoring a touchdown every game. He's going to have to have a couple of games where he has three. Because Randy had a game where he had four touchdowns. Yeah. And he had that in the first half. Yes. So he's going to have to have a couple of games, Ocho, like a Miles Garrett sack. You remember Miles had a five. He had a four. He had a three. So over a three-game stretch, he had 12 sacks. He's going to have to do something like that because there are going to be some games where he doesn't score the football.

1:02:27Shannon Sharpe:Right. And so that's how guys do it. Normally when touchdowns, they're kind of like touchdowns, rushing touchdowns, receiving touchdowns, interceptions, sacks. They're like bananas. They come in bunches.

1:02:41Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:02:42Shannon Sharpe:So what you do is that when you're going really good on Joe, when you're that bad cookie, Joe, you could have been heaping of it. Keep feeding me. Keep feeding me. Keep feeding me. Because there are going to be a couple of games, two or three games, Ocho, where you're like, well, damn.

1:02:56Joe Johnson:Yeah.

1:02:57Shannon Sharpe:Man, whoo. It was easy at one point in time, and now I'm struggling.

1:03:01Joe Johnson:And you know what the funny thing about in those games where he doesn't get the ball? What you think Tee Higgins going to be doing on the other side? Eden. I'm talking about going slap-ass crazy.

1:03:11Shannon Sharpe:If you look at it, it's possible because if you look at the season, and Randy had 23. I think Wes Welker had about 12. And plus, you got an additional game. Now, that was also the year Tom Brady threw for 50 touchdowns. He broke Peyton Manning's record of 49 because the record was 48. Peyton threw 49, and then all of a sudden Tom comes behind him and throws 50. So you see where you are. You know you're going to probably have to have 50-plus touchdowns in order you were to get that number. Yeah. Because that's where you are because those are your two main guys. So if T gets 24, that means T – excuse me.

1:03:54Shannon Sharpe:If Chase gets 24, that means T has an opportunity to get somewhere between 9 and 12.

1:03:59Joe Johnson:Yeah, absolutely. And you know what's funny? Yeah. He got to start hard. He got to start hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about, hey, Joe, out the gate when the season starts, you got to hit him out the gate the first four, five games. You got to tell him things up quick. the funny thing about it is think about Chase just said this today you know Joe Burr done saw this already right? The fact that they have such great chemistry and Joe was always going to put in position to be able to get those touchdowns early when they get on the goal line you know you can't double nobody.

1:04:31Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:04:32Joe Johnson:You know you can't.

1:04:33Chad Johnson:Yeah.

1:04:34Joe Johnson:Man them boys finna eat. Listen I know we talk about go ahead go ahead Joe.

1:04:39Chad Johnson:No I just think with Chase putting this out there in the air you know what I mean? Joe Burrow hearing this. Hell, with intent, Uncle Ocho, anything is possible. If Burrow is on the same page with him, you know, knowing that, okay, boom, Chase want to break the record, I'm going to force feed him at times. You know what I mean? But, you know, just to kind of let him know, man, listen, I'm out here, bro. I'm trying to get something done. I just need the quarterback to be on the same page. So I'm glad that he put it out there, man. Hey, hey, hey, Ocho, I'm looking forward to see these bangles, man, because Chase, now he's star-studded now.

1:05:13Chad Johnson:I know he'll go ham. You hear me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I want to see it. And you know what?

1:05:19Shannon Sharpe:When you look at this joke of what he did, in the first 10 games, he had 11 touchdowns. Who that? Chase Moss. Yeah, Moss. Oh, that season? He went 2-2-0, 2-1-0, 4-1-1, 2-1-0, 2-2-2-2-1. Hey.

1:05:36Joe Johnson:Hey. Hey. What? Hey, he can do it, right? He can do it. The thing about it is, what I know Joe Burrow is not going to do, he's not going to do it outside of the scheme of the offense. He's going to do it within the scheme of the offense. Right, right, right. Yes. And the play calling is what's going to justify him being able to get 10, 10, 11 touchdowns within the first 11 games. They ain't doing nothing outside of the offense. That's what's going to be so beautiful about it because they use them in too many different ways.

1:06:02Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, plus, he's going to have to get some touchdowns. Moss caught a lot of fades. You've got to realize you're talking about a guy that's 6 '4", with a 40-plus inch vertical. So now he going – and now you got the back shoulder you got to worry about. You got the fade over the top that you got to worry about because, you know, they call it the term, they call it you got moss. So he could damn the jump over anybody.

1:06:24Chad Johnson:Hey, but Chase got –

1:06:25Shannon Sharpe:I mean, Ocho, I mean, when I look at this thing, Ocho, in 16 games, he had one, two, three. He only had three games in which he did not catch a touchdown. Let that sink in. So in 13 of the 16 – Ocho, that's crazy. That's crazy. I don't know if people realize how ridiculous that is. And you know he's the guy. They run a double coverage at him. They run a lot of different looks. But, hey, Brady said, I don't care.

1:06:52Joe Johnson:Yeah, he letting it go. He letting it go. I don't care. And it also is a testament to how great Randy Moss was. It's a testament to how great he was. We know what the numbers are. I know what the numbers are. But I don't think people understand how good Randy Moss is and why he's a one-of-one as far as being a receiver unless you saw him play in person. Watching on YouTube does you no justice. That Thanksgiving game, Joe, he had three catches for 163 yards and three touchdowns. I think that was against, was that against my Cowboys? Yeah. Joe, that's like video game stuff, Joe. That's not supposed to happen in real life, Joe.

1:07:31Joe Johnson:And just some of the things he was able to do. Hey, um, dude was playing. most of the time you put your heels at seven yards and you backpedal. Most DBs when you're playing against Moss and you got off-carb and Joe they putting their heels at ten yards and they backpedal and he's still running by everybody.

1:07:49Chad Johnson:Hey, hey, hey. But Chase got a little more wiggle than Moss though. Oh, yeah.

1:07:53Joe Johnson:A completely different style of play.

1:07:55Chad Johnson:Oh, yeah. Completely different.

1:07:57Joe Johnson:Hey, but when Chase get going he can move now. He can move.

1:08:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to add up Moss totals. I mean, Moss, I mean, as far as targets, I mean, he had 13, 11. I mean, he had 12, 11, 13, 12, 8, 12, 13, 14, 5, 5, 13, 8, 9, 7, 9, 9.

1:08:20Joe Johnson:Hey, you see those four and fives you put in there?

1:08:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

1:08:25Joe Johnson:That's those games where they say, uh-uh, not today. Nuh-uh, not today.

1:08:30Shannon Sharpe:I mean, and so when you look at it, he's going to need to be around, and this is normal for Chase, because when you have as many catches as he does, that means you're getting a boatload of targets. He's averaging 150 targets. Remember, Ochoa, the year that he was the Triple Crown, I think he had like 170, 180 targets. So it's going to take something around that in order for him to break that record. But I do think based on his quarterback, he's basically been healthy his whole career. And even though that's a lot of targets, he doesn't play a whole lot in the slot. And so he doesn't get up, get beat up, say like Cooper Cup did when Cooper had that one, that season.

1:09:15Joe Johnson:Oh, hey, he would get banged. Pause. Him and Puka. Yes. Edelman. Go ahead, Ocho. I was going to say, hey, Joe, if I played the same style of football like a Cooper Cup did when he was with the Rams or like Puga Nakua, Joe, I'd probably last five weeks, Joe. No, I'm just being honest. Your frame ain't for that. Oh, it ain't built for that, Joe. I'd be done.

1:09:41Shannon Sharpe:You either need to be bigger or you need to be stocking. You need to be like an Edelman or Amendola or Wes Welker. Guys that compact 5 '9", 5 '8", 180, like that. You being 6 '1", and 180. 6 '3".

1:09:59Joe Johnson:6 '3". 6 '3". 6 '3". 6 '3". Hey, Joe, and the funny thing about it is when you see Puka and you see him up close, you don't realize how big he is. Puka or Cooper? Hey, Puka.

1:10:11Shannon Sharpe:Both of them. Hey, Cooper Cup on TV? Cooper Cup, like 6 '3". 6 '2". And he's stocky. Yes, Joe. I know you didn't know that. Yeah, he big like that. He big, what? Damn. And Puka is muscular. Yeah. Because I coached him in the Celebrity Basketball game on ESPN for the All-Star. Yeah, he put together. Puka with 6 '2"? Yeah.

1:10:37Joe Johnson:Yeah, Puka with a good 6 '2". Solid, too. Yeah. He got to be 2 '5". What did you think? About 210, 205?

1:10:42Shannon Sharpe:He probably 2 '0", 205. Yeah. Mm. Maybe a little more. Maybe a little more Ocho. Maybe 210-ish. Probably.

1:10:50Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, I was about 170, Joe. Yeah? Yeah, I would love Joe. I was skinny. I would just cut up. Hey, Joe, when it's time to go. Hey, they were backpacking you. They running around. Hey, Joe, I ain't taking no hits. Hey, Joe, I made business decisions. Quick.

1:11:15Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. I need to get a first down? Okay, yeah. I see the end zone close. Yeah, I'm dropping my shoulders and trying to split the two.

1:11:22Joe Johnson:But other than that, you turn that blink on, get on the body now. Joe, I'm going straight to the ground, boy, in a yoga position.

1:11:31Shannon Sharpe:My coach said, hey, son, learn to live to see another day. Live to see another day.

1:11:37Joe Johnson:All that trying to – think about this, son. Think about Steve Smith and his playing style. Oh, my goodness. He break tackle, Joe, after tackle, after tackle. Man, if I tried, man, I'm talking about I'd be in the ambulance, boy. I can't do it. You down in the fetal position. Boy, who you telling?

1:11:57Shannon Sharpe:Hey, and get up talking cash shit too, Joe. But you see how Steve Smith is built. You talking about 5 '9", 200. Oh, he compact. Yeah. He compact. Yeah. Hey, like a ball of muscle, boy. Man. And see, people are underestimating him. Oh, I'm finna... And as soon as you get right there, you think you about to unload on him, he unloads on you. Hey, that boy, Steve Smith's stiff arm?

1:12:24Joe Johnson:Hey, I ain't never seen no stiff arm. Like, him and Brandon Marshall?

1:12:28Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. But you can understand B. Marshall. B. Marshall, 6 '3", 225. Steve Smith, like, 5 '9", 200. Bro. Hey, he's stiffing everybody off of him.

1:12:38Chad Johnson:It seemed like Steve Smith, it seemed like he took every game personal, like you was talking about his mama or something like that. You know what I mean? Real talk. Real talk. Look, I'm talking about I enjoyed watching him play because he was just so feisty. You know what I mean? Like, hey, that boy wasn't going to play no silly games, man. He'll fight during the game.

1:12:55Shannon Sharpe:He'll fight after the game.

1:12:56Chad Johnson:After the game.

1:12:57Shannon Sharpe:In practice. Whatever you want it. It ain't matter.

1:13:01Joe Johnson:And you know who Steve Smith's comparison is? And I'm talking about this is perfect, and I'm sure the chat would agree with me. Steve Smith and Russell Westbrook are the same people just in two different sports. exact same mentality yep

1:13:16Shannon Sharpe:I'll go period you know in Smitty's game Smitty's game remind you like Anquan Bold and T.O they ran angry

1:13:25Joe Johnson:yeah

1:13:26Shannon Sharpe:T.O was a quarterback at one point in time he was a quarterback in high school T.O look at the violence in which T.O ran with T.O A all you want to do is if they saw man coverage, they going to quick hit you with T.O.? Good luck getting his ass down. You going to put that ball in one hand?

1:13:50Joe Johnson:I'm gone. Hey, remember that game? I know you remember. Remember that game when the Eagles played, I think they played... The Broncos. Yeah, they played the Broncos and they threw T.O. that hits on Champ. Yeah. And he took one step outside and then beat the pursuit and... Yeah. Boy, that A, A, Joe. Boy, that boy was galloping up that sideline, boy. Oh, yeah.

1:14:15Shannon Sharpe:Them boy A. But for me, I'm going to look at his first 10 games. I'm going to see how many touchdowns he had in his first 10 games. Yeah. I think that's going to be the key for him. You got to get off to a hot start. Like I said, you see what he had. I mean, Moss had crazy numbers in his first.

1:14:37Shannon Sharpe:The 10 games? Yeah, like, I mean, he started the season off with, oh, here it is. Started the season, first game against the Giants, two touchdowns. Miami, two touchdowns. Didn't do anything. Well, you know, that's when they had Revers. He had five catches, 13 yards against Revers. That must have been, that's that, yeah, that's that 2 ,000. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You said five catches, 13 yards. No, he had five catches, 13 targets on 79 yards. He had no touchdowns. And then he had 135 against Pittsburgh, two touchdowns. Baltimore, he had 34 yards, but he had a touchdown. He had no touchdowns against Philly.

1:15:17Shannon Sharpe:He had four touchdowns against Buffalo. He had a touchdown against Indy, touchdown against Washington, two touchdowns again against Miami. He had a touchdown against Dallas. No touchdowns against Cleveland, two against Cincinnati, two against Buffalo, two against San Diego, one against the Giants.

1:15:36Chad Johnson:that's Moss right? Yes.

1:15:39Shannon Sharpe:The season in which he broke Jerry's record. Man Brady was slinging that thing. 50 touchdowns over 4 ,800 yards. He was the first unanimous MVP until what you call him came along and got it back in 2018. If I'm not mistaken I think Peyton. L Jack.

1:16:00Wait.

1:16:01Chad Johnson:How many thousand yard receivers was that he had a mouse and who else? And Wes Welker.

1:16:07Joe Johnson:You don't think Gronk won over a thousand that year? Not in seven. I don't even know if Gronk was there. Yeah, Gronk won there yet. I'm tripping.

1:16:19Shannon Sharpe:I think Gronk's first year might have been 2010, the year they lost to the Giants again. Okay. So Gronk might have got there like 2009. Gronk might have been there 2009.

1:16:36Shannon Sharpe:but he's going to have to get off to a great start and that's what when you see these record breaking numbers you go back and look at Miles Garrett look at the number that he had you look at Peyton when he broke the touchdown record the 55 he had 7 the first game

1:16:52Shannon Sharpe:Gronk got there in 2010 so he was a rookie the year they went to the

1:16:55Chad Johnson:so you got to get off to that hot start you got to you want to break any of them damn records you got to get off to a hot start.

1:17:03Shannon Sharpe:Because there are going to be times now, like I said, you see Randy, there are times he didn't score. But he had built up so much, so much, he was so far ahead of the curve. But then think about it. Over the next six games, he got 13 touchdowns.

1:17:22Joe Johnson:Mind you, Joe, this the NFL now. This ain't pop one. This the best of the best, man. Man, most of that, they're just having his way, boy. And because they had so

1:17:32Chad Johnson:Because they had so many weapons, he was able to, you know what I mean, get out there and get loose.

1:17:39Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He was crazy.

1:17:46Joe Johnson:It's so funny, man. I don't think people understand, man. Boss, Moss is just as fast as Tyreek Hill, right? The only problem is, Joe,

1:17:57Shannon Sharpe:he had 15 touchdowns in the first 10 games. Jesus Christ! 15. 2, 2, 4, 2, 6, 1, 7, 11, 12, 13, 15.

1:18:15Joe Johnson:Oh, that's crazy. Hey, Joe, Moss just as fast as Tyreek here, right? But he start, I hate using the word he starts slow, but he's, he has such a, yeah, he has such a long stride in the speed is deceptive if it's right there in front of you and you don't realize how fast he's going until it's too late and he get it right up on your toes.

1:18:38Shannon Sharpe:He a long strider. The thing is, Tyreek Hill, to watch him, Tyreek Hill is right now.

1:18:43Joe Johnson:Right now.

1:18:44Shannon Sharpe:Tyreek Hill is an electric car. You know, an electric car is always going to be a spark car because it don't require that spark. It's just electric. It's gone. That's Tyreek Hill. You're never going to see anybody that accelerates like Tyreek. Unless he played track. A James Jett. Guys that played track. Willie Gault, Ron Brown, Sam Grady. Guys like that that actually ran track in the Olympics and things of that nature. That's how Tyreek is. Tyreek gonna get going in a hurry. And once Tyreek Hill learned how to run routes, it was over for the league. It was a wrap. Because now he can run the route tree.

1:19:22Shannon Sharpe:He wasn't just a gadget guy. When you got 4-2 speed, everybody knows you can go deep. but what happens when you run that speed out? What happens when you run that hitch? When you're on a start right, you're on a dig. Think about it. Ocho, remember that play he caught? They were in cover five against Buffalo. He caught it. He got they let him mess around and get inside. He split them. He split them.

1:19:47He split them

1:19:49Shannon Sharpe:in cover five.

1:19:51Joe Johnson:Yeah, that's crazy. That's not supposed to happen.

1:19:53Shannon Sharpe:Hell no. Not supposed to happen. Hell no, they're supposed to happen. That's why you play cover five. You want to keep everything in front of you. He's in front of you too safe to split him. That's what Moss had that kind of speed. He was just a long strider. And the problem is he scared you because of his speed and so guys wouldn't want to press him. But the worst thing you can do is let him free release and let him build up that speed.

1:20:21Joe Johnson:It's a wrap. And you don't realize how fast he's going. Joe, the man to be at five yards off the line, the DB still at 10 backpedaling. He just throw his hand up. You ain't even closed the cushion yet. Yeah, right. And Brady just let it go, man. He go get it, man, and just go right on by the DB.

1:20:41Shannon Sharpe:You know why Revis gave him so much problem? Because Revis pressed him.

1:20:46Joe Johnson:Yeah. And Revis, boy, Revis so strong, Unk, he get a hand on you, Joe?

1:20:52Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Uh-uh. You know who gave Revis problems? Stevie Johnson. That's the only one. Twitchy receivers. Yeah, yeah. If you were a big receiver and you couldn't do this? No, no, no, no, no, no. That's why Brandon Marshall. That's why Megatron. That's why guys are big guys that want to play physical. You play right into his trap.

1:21:12Joe Johnson:Right into his hands. The only person I've seen give Revis, you know, that work was Stevie Johnson. And he was big to be twitchy. Baby. Stevie by six-fold. Wait for Buffalo? Yeah. I played with Buffalo? Yes. I ain't never seen nobody move like that off the line, Joe. I'm talking about, remember the AM1 mixtapes? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, Stevie moving like that without no basketball, Joe. He the only one getting Revis hair. I kid you not. I'm talking about putting him in a blender. Man, Stevie was special, man. Stevie was special.

1:21:47Shannon Sharpe:As Revis got a little older, he wasn't the same. Yeah. He wasn't the same. I don't know what you think. I think that injury, I think when he tore his ACL, that took some of them too. Now, he still was a very good, but boy, before he tore that knee.

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