Best of NFL News Part 1: Lamar Jackson voted OVERRATED?!?! + Derek Stingley Jr. on being one of the NFL’s top corners

25:38Look, I get it. Yes. And Ocho, we talked about this. This is the only, this is the albatross. This is the elephant in the room. You see the names that are on this list that have won multiple MVPs. Lamar is the only one that hasn't been to a Super Bowl. That's not to say, Ocho, his career is not ending tomorrow. No, absolutely not. But everybody jumped on me when I said his career will be looked at as a disappointment if he doesn't get to a Super Bowl considering what he had accomplished. You base it on what these other guys. So you can't just look, well, he won two MVPs. You got to look at the company that he's in that's won two MVPs.

26:24Now you start looking at it. you're like well damn he has to get to one Aaron Rodgers went to one he has to get to at least one and then we look at him totally different he gets to one and he wins it we look at him differently Ocho we just do yeah absolutely but yeah listen I understand the company that he keeps the fact that he's won two MVPs the fact that he's won those MVPs those that in the chat that are listening that are watching you have to understand that he's in a different cleats in a class of his own, in a different class for that matter. So when it comes to judging him, he judged based off his what is not compadres?

27:03What's the word I'm looking for? His peers. His peers. He judged based on his other peers that have won MVPs as well. And most of them, if not all, have been to a Super Bowl whether they won a Super Bowl or not. So he judged off of that. But the whole overrated part is the part I don't like. That's the part I don't like. Saying that he's overrated because he hadn't gotten there yet when he still playing in only a seventh, maybe eighth year. I'm not sure which one it is. It's ridiculous for that matter. I think 18 was Lamar's first year. Yeah. Okay, but nothing about Lamar Jackson. What he bring to the table, what he bring to the NFL, what he bring to the Baltimore Ravens in general in giving them a chance and having them in contention every goddamn year, nothing about that is overrated.

27:47That's the part I don't like. Now, that is more, to me, is more clickbait. There should be a different title when it comes to talk about the quarterback that have won MVPs and have been or won a Super Bowl, the title should be goddamn different. Overrated my goddamn ass. Now, that's a bunch of bullshit. Let me ask you a question. But when you're looking at him, here's the thing. See, you're looking at him against his peers. They're looking at him against his peers that have won two MVPs. So when you look at him, look at the class that he's in. You compare them to my homeboy. Two MVPs, five Super Bowl appearances, three wins.

28:25You're looking at Peyton Manning, five MVPs, three Super Bowl appearances, two wins. You're looking at Tom Bright, move on. You're looking at Brett Favre. How about this? Everybody on that list, everybody on that list except one person is already done and not playing anymore. Correct. Everybody on that list is done and not playing. So how about we wait until he's done playing and then we justify whether he belongs in that company or not or whether he's overrated or not. And even if he doesn't go to a goddamn Super Bowl, what he's going to continue to do, the resume that he's going to put together, whether he wins three more MVPs and doesn't make a goddamn Super Bowl or not, nothing about Lamar Jackson is overrated.

29:08I know the fact the way we judge quarterbacks is based on wins and losses and rings and hardware and all that. But when it comes down to the nitty gritty, when you're talking to people that played the game, forget the media, forget the pundits, forget those that never played the game. Nothing about young Bull out of goddamn Pompano who played for Boynton Beach High School is overrated. whether he has a goddamn ring or not, he will still go down as one of the best, the best quarterbacks to ever play this goddamn game. How do we judge Dan Marino? Do we say Dan Marino's not one of the greats because he didn't win a ring?

29:47Yes, but see, here's the thing, Ocho. G-R-E-A-T, great. Now, if we add E-S-T, one of the greatest, that's what he's going for. You see, you said something very interesting, and this is actually true. Only quarterbacks get measured by wins and Super Bowls. No other position, Super Bowls matter. Okay, right. Not like they do for a quarterback, because, Ocho, even when Brady wasn't putting up numbers like Peyton Manning, they said he was better than Manning because what did he have that Manning didn't? Championships. Think about it now. Now, Peyton Manning had won multiple, multiple MVPs. Brady had three Super Bowls.

30:38Manning had three regular season MVPs. They said, well, Brady's better. Right. Because Brady has, as you was pointing to your fingers, that's how they, I don't sit the rules. You see what happened with ring culture? You see. What has it done? It'll make people jump around and go and try to find the best situation where they can win a ring and then they shut you up. And it's like, okay, I've already done what I needed to do now. No more argument. No more argument. At that point, especially when it comes to basketball, you have those that have to chase the ring because of ring culture and the rules, the unwritten rules, matter of fact.

31:16How about that? The unwritten rules. Who the hell came up with it? I don't know. Because they were saying Jordan was better than Magic and Magic had five rings. They were saying Jordan was better than Bird, and Bird had three MVPs in three rings. He's the last guy to win three consecutive MVPs. You got to go all the way back to Wilt. So what has happened is that now I give you another one. The next couple of years, people are going to say Shea Huayatani is the greatest baseball player we've ever seen. He's got four MVPs. He's got them unanimously. He's got two World Series wings, Ocho. He had one of the great postseason performers where he struck out 10 and hit three home runs.

32:04Now, he mess around and get another one and win another World Series. Who, what, we going to compare him to? Because we – Yeah, there's nobody to compare him to. Four MVPs unanimously? Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. So you see, once you start, and Barry Barnes was so great, even everybody that played against him said that is the greatest player that I've ever seen. Greg Maddox said, well, it was really easy to pitch to Barry. If it mattered, you walked him. He said his job was to get 27 outs. You ain't going to get them on him. So pick the other eight guys to get and figure it out. so when you look at it Ocho look it's hard to say a man a man like Lamar and maybe you're right maybe overrated is a harsh turn but I think if we they're looking they're looking at it as the 10 guys that have something that no other guys have and that is think about the NFL how long has been going on hold on stay with me real quick now so if we talk about hardware Yes.

33:14And hardware puts quarterbacks in a different tier. Where not just great, great is. So are we saying like Ben Roethlisberger belongs in that tier too? Are we saying Russell Wilson also belongs in that tier too? When we talk about quarterbacks that are the greatest because they have rings? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But here's the thing, Ocho. None of those guys have regular season MVPs. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. There's a... So we can't move to the old post now. No, no, no, no, no, let me ask you a question. Has anybody ever said Ben Roethlisberger was greater than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning?

33:55No. So when you look at it, and so when you look at it, you have to have regular season MVPs. Those matter. Now when you start getting postseason MVPs, that means you won the Super Bowl. See, you see Brady, the reason why Brady has three regular season MVPs, he has seven Super Bowls, and five Super Bowl MVPs. So no matter what criteria you use, it's going to be hard for somebody to overtake him unless my homeboy gets five MVPs. Let's just say for the sake of argument. We have a compelling case if my homeboy is not even 30. I think he just turned 30. He got a long way to go. Yes. He got a long way to go.

34:43And the thing, he just turned 30. So when you look at it, Ocho, I think that is the thing. They're comparing him in this elite category. Elite, which is guys that have won multiple MVPs. It ain't that many quarterbacks that's won two. What is it? Unitas, Manning, Rodgers, Brady, Favre, Montana, Young, Warner, Mahomes. It's nine. Lamar makes 10. Yeah. He's the only one that's never been to a Super Bowl. Now, if he doesn't get to a Super Bowl, what are they going to say, Ocho? Be honest. You know what they're going to say. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We know what they're going to say. We know what they're going to say.

35:22But listen, I know what they're going to say, but I know my eye hasn't seen all the years I've seen him play. Let me do you one better. They say guys that got Super Bowl rings at the receiver position better than Ocho because Ocho ain't got no rings. but you run circles around them on the field. You see how they did? You see? You see how they did that? Yeah, I got you. Listen, I'm with you when you're writing. I'm picking up what you're putting down. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So now, so just imagine, they do that for the receiver. So imagine if a quarterback, and that's what I said. Oh, yeah.

35:59It's even worse. It's even worse. Now, I hate that it's like that. I hate that it's like that. It's somewhat of an unwritten rule, just like the unwritten rule of hockey when it comes to fighting, just like the unwritten rule in baseball. Like, I understand it. I hate that it's like that. Hey, ring culture when it comes to talking basketball, huh? It matters. It just does. It matters, but that's just the way it is. But, I mean, it is what it is. I think with the way, obviously, they didn't have a good year, a good start to the year. They still can come. Oh, you're talking to Ravens. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

36:36I think they're going to win the division. I think they're going to get a home game I think they're going to win the division I don't know about winning the division So what you think we're going to do? So I don't think y 'all can do nothing Hold on, hold on, I'll tell you what I'm very serious tonight I'm very serious tonight, but I'll tell you this I will give you guys a division If we lose to the Steelers, which I doubt we do If we lose to the Steelers I say you guys are probably going to win the division At that point, but if we go in there and we beat the Steelers, that momentum, I tell you what, that momentum the rest of the season is going to be hell.

37:13I don't give two, you know what, two drop the dried up pigeon, you know what, on concrete, how bad our defense is. That momentum offensively, man, listen, man, I don't know. It's going to be tough. Now, if we lose to the Steelers, I mean, that's it. It's a wrap. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, our season is over. Yeah, and so that's the thing because, you know, you look at Lamar and it's tough because in his era, he got Mahomes. There are a lot of people that's going to get overlooked just like they got overlooked. Ben didn't get the credit that he deserves. Drew Brees didn't get the credit that they deserve because why?

37:59They played in the era with SmackDown, with Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady. And you're talking about guys that got eight regular season MVPs and 10. No, hell not. Tom is nine and 12 Super Bowl appearances with nine wins. Yeah. God, that's crazy, man. It's so crazy. And you know what's so funny, too, is we've been spoiled. We've been spoiled by the Peyton Mannings and the Tom Brady's and the Patrick Mahomes and the Joe Montana. And people don't understand how difficult. The Aaron Rodgers, the Brent Farr, they don't understand. Brent Rodgers, all these quarterbacks. And it's 32 teams, huh? It's 32 teams, and it's only a handful of quarterbacks in each hand.

38:52Yeah. Almost over 30 years that are tier one quarterbacks. Yeah. That just lets people know how difficult that position is and how special those are that are in those conversations that we're talking about. And the fact that Lamar's name is in those conversations and winning two MVPs and those unwritten rules kind of give you like a, he's not really there yet until he does this. So he got to get there. I'm not sure when it's going to happen, but it's going to happen before his career. Yes. My bad. Tom has 10 Super Bowl appearances. god damn he has 10

39:32oh that's crit lost to eli twice and lost to a nick foals yes on the trick yeah the philly special yeah yeah the philly special uh oh cho now here's the next five They had Lamar number one, had Jordan Love number two, Justin Herbert number three, Dak Prescott number four, Trevor Lawrence number five. Now, Trevor Lawrence need to be where Lamar is. I'm going to put Lamar down. If you're going to put Lamar on this list, I'm going to put him down at five. Right. Man, Trevor Lawrence, man, I don't think Justin Herbert's overrated. Let's see now that he has Jim Harbaugh. The one thing we know about Jim Harbaugh, yeah he gonna win they're gonna play like stay out defense and he gets he gonna get to a Super Bowl I'm not gonna say it's gonna be this year yeah he definitely gonna get there listen and the way Justin Herbert is playing this year too man Justin Herbert is throwing that ball absolutely hey Quentin Johnson it is Quentin Johnston Quentin Johnston young Bull got his confidence playing extremely well Ladaris McConkie playing extremely well Keenan Allen that veteran presence in that locker room playing extremely well so there really are no the second now I forgot about Rondé Gasson the second catching hell of that ball being a Marion Hampton I think he's coming back he's coming back on the back end of the season I think he's going to be back off injury.

41:22They're going to make a nice little run. They're going to make a nice little run. They absolutely will. Jordan Love, he's going to have to get better, man. Jordan Love is going to have to be better. I don't know if somebody hasn't gotten his ear and talking about, bro, you've got to push the ball down the field, man. You make too much money. You make too much money to be missing these throws. And I'm not saying you're going to make every – you're not going to make every throw. I get that. I understand. And I'm not trying to minimize playing that position because that's a position I couldn't play.

41:51Very difficult. But come on, bro. That's why they play. The more you get paid, the more expectation and a burn that is placed on you. That's just the rules of engagement. Hey, can you imagine that? Can you imagine being responsible, not only for a team, but playing the most important position on the field, the ball is in your hands the most, they paying you 50 55 million dollars a year matter of fact forget a year they pay you 50 55 million dollars in six months six months and i need i need you to carry this franchise yeah man you talk about pressure i know it's the game of football it's what we all done since we were four years old but man man yeah but look i i'm with you ocho i believe uh lebar jackson is going to get to a Super Bowl.

42:46And once he gets there and he wins it, it's over. Hey, get that monkey off my back so I can go play freely, please. Thank you. You see, think about it. I'll give you a prime example. LeBron James had two MVPs, but he had never gotten to the finals. He had two, lost two. And then all of a sudden, he won and got that monkey off his back. Yeah, it was a wrap. The problem is you must rather let Lamar get this monkey off his back. He might double you up. Go back to back, Jack. Yeah. Hey, I got one question, too. Now that we're talking about those unwritten rules, especially in this conversation when it comes to quarterbacks and MVPs, it was just on my – well, it's kind of different because Jalen Hurts has a Super Bowl MVP in a ring, so he's not in that conversation, correct?

43:42Okay. These are only guys in the Super Bowl era that have at least two regular season MVPs. Right. Okay, okay. There are nine guys Lamar makes the 10th. Lamar is the only one that hasn't appeared in the Super Bowl. Right. Okay. And think about it. Peyton Manning never went back-to-back. Tom, Joe, and Mahomes are the only ones to go back-to-back of the group. Right. Peyton didn't go to back-to-back Super Bowls. yeah Kurt didn't Kurt went 99 we won 2000 they went in 2001 and then he went again with Arizona I think in what was that 2008 I think it was 2008 because 2009 was New Orleans 2000 what you call them because 7 was the Giants 8 was the Steelers 9 9 was Yeah, nine was New Orleans.

44:42Ten was the Giants again. Yeah, 11 was the Packers. Yeah. Yeah. 11 was the Packers. 12 was the Seahawks. Oh, my man, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm just, you know, just going. But like I said, Ocho, once he gets that monkey off his back, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, he's going to be fine. And that shit's hard. I'm going to let's go. We've been on this thing about 30 minutes. You know why it's hard? Because they say there's nothing like a game seven. Well, in the NFL, every game is a game seven. Every game. Wild card game is game seven. Divisional round, game seven. Conference final, game seven. Super Bowl, game seven.

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49:27We got a very special guest joining us. We got Texans, all-world cornerback. Man, he had an unbelievable one-handed interception that really started to come back. They came back from 19 down in the fourth quarter to win the ball game against the Jacksonville Jaguars, a division opponent. Here he is, a Pro Bowler, All-Pro three picks this season, including one against Trevor Lawrence. Here he is, Derek Stingley Jr. Sting, what's going on, bro? Nothing much, man. Have a good day. Man, thank you for joining us, man. We really, really appreciate it. Go ahead, Ocho. What's good? What's up? I'm always good.

50:08OK, I like that energy. I like that energy. I see you in the offseason. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We got to run it. We got to run it. Bro, watching you play, and I think the thing is about any great corner, the one thing that they all have is patience. They ain't really biting that first move. Look, bro, all that head stuff. Let me ask you a question. What are you looking at? You looking at his breastplate, you looking at his hips, cause all this head doing all this and all that right there, and these hips still coming straight at me. So when you lock in and you're playing press coverage, what are you watching?

50:41I'm looking more at the mid thigh, the back leg. Okay. Like I start low, so then when your eyes go up a little bit, I ended up running hoops and try to stay in that range right there. Yeah. How did you learn to be patient? Because a lot of times, you know, these receivers are really good at round running, getting in and out of breaks. And I think the thing is that you can't be overreactive, always biting the first move. Now, you know, sometimes they really are running a go. And sometimes they're going to run, you know, they're trying to run you off and do this comeback or do this dig or do this over route.

51:17So how are you playing? I mean, obviously you study Taylor. You see formation. You're like, okay. You think y 'all slick. Y 'all think y 'all got a three by one. You think you're going to fool me with this split. Man, get out of here. Yeah, I mean, it's really because, I mean, I'm also fast. I feel like people don't think that I'm fast, but like I'm. They don't think you're fast, huh? Yeah, but I can run with pretty much anybody. So knowing that in my mind, like you're not going to run away from me. So I play like low hip most of the time. I can, if we get down the field, a quarterback, you know, all quarterbacks don't throw accurate deep passes.

51:54So, you know, I can look back at a certain time knowing that the ball sometimes would be underthrown or inside or something like that. Then it's just going to make a play off of that. You know, you ain't going to have much time to throw it. Y 'all got those two edge guys coming off the edge. So you're like, hey, I ain't got to come along. And that's every snap. like they they and it's not even just them like it's the whole like the interior like they they push yeah you got rankings you got those guys yeah they pushing up the middle and then you got the two on the outside and then they all rotate so like we got three people deep in every position on the d-line so every snap but you you want you wanted a few obviously i i i'm i'm an enthusiast when it comes to you know some of the better db just db play in general you know and and being able to watch all and study a game and study how you guys play you have tremendous patience you have tremendous patience similar to to to like the real revis in a sense uh you're very good in bump and run uh watching film you can tell you watch film a lot and you understand the tendencies and and what's coming and what's not and your ball skills are second to none your ball skills are second now because you're one of the few few dbs that when when the ball is in the air you actually You look back for it, and you don't panic.

53:13Most of the time, you already know, most of the time, everybody always panic once the ball in the air. And the first thing you do, you pull your tug, and you get a flag thrown. But your ball skills, man, is elite. You know, I haven't had a chance to give you your flowers. But just now, I got a chance to. But you wanted the best. You know, we talk about top two. You're right up there. So it depends on who you like based on preferences. is that you and brother P2 dying in Denver. I appreciate you, man. I appreciate that. Yes, sir. Hey, D. Sting, what's up, bro? Hey, tell me something. What have you learned from your father, your grandfather, coaching and mentorship as you came into this league?

53:57What had they taught you growing up? My dad, he coached in the Arena Football League for a long time. He played in the arena. And since I was a little kid, like as far back as I can remember, I'm doing DB drills with like his players and like with full pads on as a little kid or like running routes against his DBs as a little kid, like double moves or, you know, whatever. like that so being in that type of environment it kind of taught me for one like the brotherhood that goes along with a football team because one they was they was I guess you could say like they was those older figures that I saw as like superstars like it was just like a family environment and so that taught me brotherhood and then and then like seeing them go out there and play together, knowing that they was close, like off the field, whether that was dealing with me or, you know, doing their own thing or whatever.

55:05And then for my dad, like, well, and then adding on to that, like my dad, he taught me how to deal with like energy levels on the field. So, you know, you know, big talker. he tried to he's getting you're trying to get your hair stained oh yeah you know like he'll talk and he'll do all that but me personally like if i make a good play like i you probably won't see me do anything like like whether if it's like pbu or something like that like i'll just walk off because for one i'd be tired so like i don't have to do that and then like um and some if something is too bad then you know like it's on to the next play and i feel like as a as a defensive player like that's just how you got to live life and it's really like that for offense too like a receiver tight end like you drop the ball drop a pass you got to move on to you can't think about it because then you start thinking about catching the football you're going to keep on dropping the rest of it you know like stuff like that like just regulating emotions and you know still playing with a passion and being fierce with it but everybody don't need to know that like Like if you want to try to play me on the field, I'll just show you by just playing the game.

56:26Like I don't need to talk because I don't know how to talk. Oh, you don't talk? You said what? I said you don't talk. So somebody started yapping, oh yeah. Oh, I'm about to get this one today. I'm about to get me a hundred today. Get me about a couple of tubs on me. I'll probably just look. Well, because I don't know how to talk trash talk. So like I'll just look and I'll either laugh or I'll just be like, OK, like, all right. Like, oh, no. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe, I'mma get it out of him. Oh, yeah, oh. Hey, I'mma get it out of him. I'm walking by just like this here, Ocho. He like, man, what you doing?

56:59So you about to smell the deodorant. Talk now, that's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. Don't worry about it. Hey, hey, hey, DC telling y 'all, look, that's going to motivate him. He ain't got to say nothing. Yeah, but he going to be like, OK, it's a quiet confidence, bro. Like, it's not. It doesn't matter who it is. Like, Ocho said, like, I know you say that you'll be able to get me to talk on the field, but I honestly would look at you crazy, and you're going to be like, what? Like, is something wrong with him? Like, why is he not talking? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, I'm going to get at work.

57:31Listen, I'm not going to talk on the field. I'm going to talk during the play. I'm going to talk during the route. Like, I'm different, Sting. Like, I'm different. Got to let him know, Ocho. We got to let you know, Sting. Hey, the whole time. We got two quiet dudes versus two talkers. Hey Sting, that first down on you, first down! Hey Sting, you know what they hit you with? Every time I catch a ball, I'm hitting with they own thing. Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't. Hey, hey, Ojo. That don't affect, I don't do that, so that don't affect me. No, Sting, you're right, you're right. I'm saying, like, you don't, my mind is, like, this is a feel, like just, I don't know, cage or whatever.

58:14Like, he's not. Uh-oh, but I tell you what y 'all do, dude. You let, when you got the interception, y 'all ran to the end zone. So I give me a touchdown, I'm calling on my teammate. Come on, let go to the end zone. Let go, Ocho, let go. Look. Yeah. Hey, Sting, you know who Sting remind me of too, and that's the way he carry himself, and he's always, always even keeled no matter what. It's really hard to get him out of character. Andre Johnson. Yeah. Exactly the same. Don't talk. Yeah, great. Don't say nothing. No, at all. Let me ask you a question. Who do you kind of pattern your game after? Because I mean, like you kind of built like like Revis, but I mean, there's Charles Woodson.

58:53There's Rod Wilson. There's time. There's Revis. There's Darrell Green. There's the Niels Williams. There have been a lot of great corners. Like, so did you study film when you watch it? Like, OK, this is the direction I'm going in. And I think this is what I'm going to be at in college is what I'm going to be at the next level. who do you kind of pattern your game after is there any similarities that you see between yourself and anybody that I mentioned maybe somebody I didn't yeah nobody that you mentioned but I've always it's always been Tim Bailey for me he's always the you know he get the ball he's locked down he's interchangeable if he need to go play somewhere else like in different positions he can do it like just cause he know the defenses or know football he ages always been anywhere number 24 like that yeah that's He's always been the first testing guy.

59:39So you like, you like, because I measure corners and there's not a knock on the corners that don't, but I like to see you get frequent flying miles. I like to see you travel. I mean, if you got a bad dude and he normally, he the X, I'm going to do that. If he the Z, I'm following him there. If he in the slot, I'm going to follow him there. If he in the backfield, I'm lining up like a linebacker. Wherever you go, just know I'm going to get him. I mean, and that's a part of it. Like, that's a mindset. like I just want to cover the best like if you're allowed to do it you're allowed to do it if you're not allowed to do it then you know the people that aren't allowed to do it I guarantee they wish that they can do it like so that's something you can't knock somebody for I don't know no no no some people just like they got the defenses and you play left he played right whatever the case and that's how it was with Revis and Crow normally Revis and Crow they stay Pro stayed on one side, restayed on the other side.

1:00:35And so wherever you went, Sherman, and when they were in Seattle, he was on one side and Brandon Brown was on the other side. So let me ask you a question. You got the big contract, and you know what comes along with big contracts, even more expectations. You've gone to the Pro Bowl. You've been an all-pro. What are the expectations that Sting puts on himself? Down to outside pressure, what you put on yourself? Well, really, on myself, like, it's more about, like, technique. It's sometimes like, well, we kind of mentioned earlier patience. We were talking about patience, right? So sometimes and then you also said kind of falling for the first move or wanting to react to the first move.

1:01:19Yes, people know I'm a patient defensive back at the line of scrimmage so I'll get harder moves like first steps thinking that okay, yeah, they're going. It's just a game within the game. So I'm part of myself trying to make sure that I'm sticking true to who I am and controlling the game myself. Not being reactive, but controlling the game. And then another thing is yeah, I got all the picks, the ball skills, whatever. I've said this before, last year I had however many I had interceptions. I could have had double that. Same thing for right now. I got however many I have right now. I should have double that.

1:02:06And those are the type of things that bug me because I know my pops is sitting in the stands somewhere just mad at me. Like frowning or something. And I can feel them just being mad at me. But I'm also mad too. Those are the main things for me because I know how to catch a football. So why am I not catching the pass on this or Or that or why is this person getting like an inch of separation when they're when they're not supposed to like Like, you know, like stuff like that like normal. I mean, I feel like that's normal like football stuff whatever Thing let me ask you this. Do you think we're gonna see somebody Dick night train Lane his rookie season.

1:02:50Yeah, I think in 1980 left the Hayes uh uh had 13 picks and we haven't seen anybody we've seen a 10 you saw we just saw he's had 11. he had 10 and we've seen a lot of 10 champ bailey one year had 10 but we really haven't seen somebody get that 12 13 to really challenge that 14. we do have an extra game now and i think uh train got here if they have to have 12 games i think if i'm not mistaken could have been i think it was 12 game. Nitro? Who? Diggs? Diggs had 11. Do you think we'll see somebody ever get 15 picks in a season? 15? I mean, you could. You got to have to break the record. Like, let's say, what's his name?

1:03:36Some Paul, he played for Washington for... Yeah, he had four in one game. So, I feel like if somebody... or this was either last year or two years ago, Darius Slate going against Justin Jefferson. And I think he had two, or yeah, I think he had two, but he could have had like six that game. So like those type of games where you just catch all the ones you're supposed to catch. Yeah, you got to catch all the balls. And then just play like your normal game. Like, you know, you get one every nine then or whatever. Then I think it's possible. But if you don't. I think it's probably going to come from a safety.

1:04:16somebody that's roaming yeah um but you're right because normally they targeted but once he start catching them they start going away from you yeah but you know you covering you covering the best receiver like they they gotta throw them all oh they're gonna feed him now but then that then they're gonna start they're gonna start stacking him start running you start running you off picks and everything and doing all that other stuff trying to run a bunch of shallow crawls then they're gonna whip you they're gonna start him in hard do zaro do everything to try to get you off his tail. Still opportunities though, like regardless whether they try to hide the receiver or not, like if you're on them, you own them.

1:04:54So that's the opportunity right there. Right now, look, we know they only take seven teams to the playoffs. Right now, you guys are four and five and you're third in your own division. You lost a couple of games that you're looking at. I mean, I'm sure when you went back and watched the film, like that team shouldn't have beat us. That team should not have beat us. What are you guys going to do? You're 4-9, 4-5 with eight games to play. What do you guys need to do to position yourself to make sure if you're not challenging for the division, you get one of those remaining three playoff spots? Well, I mean, you know, going into every week, you wash away the week before and you don't look past the week that you're on.

1:05:37But one of the things that my position, Coach Dino, So he always says just do your job. Like, take care of what you got to take care of. And then, like, don't go out there chasing plays. Don't go out there, like, just doing your own thing. Like, just do what you're supposed to do. And then if everybody do that, then, you know, the result will be what you would want it to be. So I think everybody just got to do that. And that's with every sport. That's with every job. That's with life. That's with everything. Just do what you're supposed to do. And, you know, the results still come. Well, you're going to get some opportunities to get some picks.

1:06:19You got the Titans coming up. You got Calvin Ridley. Buffalo, they got a bunch of guys. And then the Colts, they got Pearson Pittman Jr. And then you got the Chiefs. You got Worthy. And you got Rasheed Rice. And you got Juju. So you're going to get some. And then you got the Cardinals, Marvin Harrison Jr. The Chargers got what they got. So you got some opportunities. So I'm expecting we have this conversation again in about eight weeks, I'm gonna be looking like, okay, Sting, last I talked to you, you had three. I need to see my six or seven, we talk again. Easy. Yeah, I mean, you know it is what it is.

1:06:53I don't know. Nah, it is what I need. I need six or seven, I mean. Hey, D-Sting, stay locked in. Don't let them try to hang you out here trying to jump on anything. Yeah. Yeah, stay locked in, bro. Hey, Sting, I got one more question. I got one more question. A lot of times, especially when a player is active, they're in their prime, they're playing extremely well, and they play DB, they never get an opportunity to give receivers their flowers or receivers that really, not saying beat them, but you've got to really be on your A game. You've got to dot your eyes and cross your T's when you're playing against a certain person that really have you out there thinking you've got to bring your A game.

1:07:32Is there anybody that comes to mind for you since you've been in the league where you just know, okay, when I'm playing so-and-so, I got to be on the field. Well, yeah. Yeah. Actually, it's a lot of people. We're in the NFL. Everybody's... I've always said Garrett Wilson with the Jets. I remember the first time I went against him, we was at some high school camp. It was an opening or something like that. Ryan Clark was actually my coach. Garrett, he ran like a slant rock or whatever with the hoop. And I'm playing like a deep third or something. And the ball is thrown so high. And I'm like 20 yards behind, like 15, 20 yards behind him.

1:08:23I'm thinking the ball coming right to me. And he jumps up so high. He jumps up so high, catches the ball, just runs. And I'm just looking at you like, yeah, that's good. But since I've been in the league, going against him, I think I played against him twice already. He's nice. It's a lot of people. It's so many people. Devontae Adams always. Tyreek. Mike Evans. Nobody talked about Mike Evans for some strange reason. He's Mike Evans. I don't know. It's a lot of people. I can't think of everybody, but yeah. Right. Derek, you and your dad, Derek Senior, run Cover One Elite. Tell us about that. What is Cover One Elite?

1:09:12So it's really just like a DB camp, like a couple years. Well, we went to Hawaii for a couple years, get some people like all throughout the league. Whether it's people I played like in college with or just know like throughout the league. So they'll go down there. Last year, we had it in Puerto Rico. Oh, actually, we was just talking about it. Like, maybe we can get this in Greece next year. Like, you know, like just going. Damn. What about safety? Y 'all invite 57 on safety? I mean, hey, look. It don't matter. If you want to come, just know you're going to work. But. All right. Damn, y 'all working on a granddaddy?

1:09:53Sting, damn, I'm a granddaddy. It don't matter. If you want to come, you going to have to work. Like, it ain't. You ain't getting a free trip. Like, come on. right oh damn i thought i was gonna be able to go to mykonos or santerini you know get some olive oil ocho some cheese damn you know look you can work all right so the way the way it's set up is we we normally go out there for like uh i think it's like five days or something or six days um the first day travel day next day work day then you're off the next day then you got another the work day, then off the next. So you know, you can do whatever.

1:10:29Oh, OK, OK, OK, OK. Yeah, you can do. Your business is your business. And then, and then. I ain't really no cover safety, though, Sting. You said what? You know, Sting, I hate it. They call me graveyard, because when I leave the field, it bodies everywhere. So you know what I'm saying? All I want you to do is funnel it to me. Hey, Sting, just funnel it to me. Don't even worry about that slam. I got that. It's all good. I got that slam. We got a lot. I'll put that soup on them. We bring like four linebackers or two to four linebackers, safeties. Like it's everybody. So come on. I like that. I like that.

1:11:08Then you got to look, you got to look. You was on that 2019 national championship team. That great team, probably the greatest team, one of the greatest teams ever assembled in college. Arguably one of the greatest, you can make a case it's the greatest offensive team. But what you guys were able to do, Joe Burrow was the quarterback and Jetta and Chase and Marshall and Thad Maltz and Clyde Edwards-Alaire and all those great offensive linemen, the DBs like yourself. They fired Brian Kelly. How do you guys get back to something similar to that where LSU, their alums and everybody in Boosters are proud to show up to Death Valley and know we couldn't somebody ask tonight?

1:11:47Well, honestly, I mean, it really just comes down to whoever they bring in, whoever it doesn't it doesn't matter who they bring in like as long as the the players like they really buy into being at lsu like you know you can you can go to a certain school you can you can be from here and be from there but once you get to where you're at like you got to know what the goal is and mom like like yeah you're at this university yeah you're doing all this and that but the goal should be to get to the next level so once everybody come get in the tune with that like and really break down like how can we be great like that's that's what it's going to take so i don't think it matters like who who it is or or what it takes from the i'm just saying from a coaching standpoint like that that doesn't matter like it's the players buying into themselves first and then the coach like just adding on to that.

1:12:48Because you got great facilities, tremendous fan base, stadium is electric, Death Valley at night, there's nothing like playing in Death Valley at night. Man, that's Derek Stingley Jr., the great all pro cornerback from Houston, Texas. D Sting, thanks for some time tonight. I appreciate that. Continue success. Stay healthy. Look, when we talk to you in January, I'm going to be looking at the stats because I know you got three now I'm like okay hey Ocho we got to call him back up you done got seven oh yeah I appreciate y 'all though man we appreciate you man congratulations on all the success continued success we'll see you down the road bro all right bro Derek Stingley Jr.

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