Best of NFL News Part 1: Myles Garrett TURNS DOWN $1M, OSU Draft prospect Kayden McDonald got the trio CRACKING UP

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21:24What's up?

21:24Shannon Sharpe:I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave and then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man.

22:00Shannon Sharpe:You can't be rolling around the city like this the night before games, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. And I'll be like, mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized Game with Stewie and Miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

22:27Shannon Sharpe:All right, we got a very special guest joining us. He's a 6 '2", 326-pound projected first-round pick, a unanimous All-American, a Big Ten Defenses Lineman of the Year, Outland Trophy finalist, a first-team All-Big Ten, two-time academic All-Big Ten. Here he is, Caden McDonald. Caden, what's going on, bro? Oh, man, what do you do? What's happening? Hey, man, thanks for joining us, bro. Caden, what's good, right? Man, we here, man. Ocho, man, the GOAT. Hey, Joe. Hey, what's up? Joe from Arkansas, man. I'm from Arkansas, too, man. Yeah, what's happening, bro? Hey, didn't you grow up here in Atlanta, though?

23:07Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was from Texas, Canada. I was born in Texas, Canada.

23:11Shannon Sharpe:Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wait, I knew something about you, boy. You good people as your man. Oh, yeah. I got one question, Joe, man. Why I couldn't get an NBA championship, man? What you mean? For the Hawks, man. I grew up a Hawks fan. I couldn't get one. Man, come on. Come on. Come on. Don't act like that now. Don't act like that. Hey, I'm going to make sure they get one here soon, though. Don't even worry about that. Yeah. What high school did you go to? I went to North Gwinnett. You know, Sewanee. You know, Gwinnett County got the best football, so all the dogs come out there. Okay. Yeah. They have.

23:50Shannon Sharpe:Gwinnett County has really built up all those schools out there because they've really gotten and now you got Buford out there. You got, you know, all those big-time schools out there. Wait, wait. Because it used to be South. It used to be the Valdostes, the Tiff Counties, the Warner Robins. All those schools were big. Now y 'all just done took – Lyons County. You guys done took over now. Hold on. Hold on. Caden said some dogs come out of there. I need to hear names of some of the dogs that came out of that school. All this. We got – see, we're going to start. We're going to go old school. We're going to go C.J.

24:21Ozuma. Okay, okay, okay. New school. we had Josh Downs, Barrett Carter. Okay, okay. Big bro, Jaden McDonald, man. All America. That my big bro. Wait, all them from L.A.? Yeah, well, the whole Gwinnett County, we got Caleb Downs, Travis Hunter, all them boys. Ooh, okay. I ain't know that. I ain't know that. I like that. I like that.

24:48Shannon Sharpe:All right. What click for you this year? You're All-American. Obviously, 6 '2", 326 pounds. You can do a lot. You're twitchy. You can collapse the pocket. You can rush the quarterback. You can stop the run. What clicked for you this year? What was it about this year? Do you say, you know what? I got all this. You put it together. So, make a long story short. You put it together. What clicked for you? And I'll just say, man, opportunity. You know, I got a chance to make something happen. You know, I had, like, 13 games. You know, like every play I treated like an opportunity. You know, one day I want to be on that cover.

25:27So it's just like, it's that mentality, you know. I'm on the field. You know, I got the black face going. You know, I'm on it. Yeah, yeah. I'm all the way in it. Locked in. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Hey, so far, right, obviously having a great season this year with Ohio State. The process, obviously your childhood dream is wanting to make it to the NFL. How has the process been so far? Has it been everything you dreamed of to date that you thought it would be? before you even made it? But I'll just say, yeah, for sure, man. You know, when you're a kid, especially coming from Arkansas, ain't nothing but one gas station.

26:02You know, growing up, man, just, no, it's a dream come true. You know, I ain't never dream about this when I was a kid. You know, we was just living. No, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, growing up, man, it was just, you know, we played ball. No, I've been playing since I was four. So, man, this has been my life.

26:21Shannon Sharpe:Hey, tell me something. What's your plans for the draft, man? You plan on going down to Pittsburgh for the draft? Hey, man, I'm going to have that big Cuban on. I got my little one on right now, but... Double reset. Popping it. Put that thing on. What kind of watch you going to have on? What kind of watch you going to be wearing? Two-tone AP. Two-tone AP.

26:50Man. Hey, that boy got money. Two-tongue. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

26:54Shannon Sharpe:He said he got the big Cubano. He said he got the big Cubano now. The big Cubano. He said, yeah, they're going to be Cubano with his name. I like it. Listen, I got one more question. I got one more question. Obviously, there are certain players that you watch at the next level. I'm sure there's some players that you aspire to be like or that you look up to. Who do you compare your playing style to? And who are players in the NFL right now that you look up to and say, you know what? I want to make my mark or leave my mark like they did. I like, so I like, I'll be like, you feel me? I like physical defensive tackles, man.

27:27Yes, sir. Like me, I don't really, I look at other NFL players, but no, my game is special. Like you see me on the field making these plays. You know, I had 65 tackles from the head up nose position. Ain't nobody doing that. So I'm like, no, I'm trying to make my own mark. You feel me? Yeah.

27:45Shannon Sharpe:But I'll say like, man, Aaron Donald, Cam Hayward, You know, he came out of PC Ridge. That's who I was going to say. I was going to say probably Cam Hayward. Because he's a guy that plays like, he can play the tilt. He can play the under. Most of the time he lines up. He can be the three. I mean, the head up the nose. He can be the three. He can be the five. He can be the defensive end. He's multiple. But he's physical. Hey, I got a question. Hey, I got a question for you, Ong. Hey, what's your superstition on, like, the game day? Like, what's one thing you got to do on the game day that you ain't changed?

28:20Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. I was very superstitious. And once I started this, even when I went to Baltimore, the trainers, I told the trainers, obviously, I have my pad, you know, double-sided tape on my pad. They're in my locker. I need three packs of Big Red. I need probably like six ad meals. Oh, my God. Burnt up, ain't you? I need three blueberry cake donuts. I need long I need long lineman socks that I'm going to get take out my locker and I'm going to go give them back to the equipment guy and get running back socks I get taped I get a regular routine tape job to go out there and then I come back in and I get retaped again but I get it taped to my skin yeah I do the same thing you know I go standing on the road okay I would go stand I would press the elevator and I would go stand in front of the elevator door that I thought was going to open and I had to do that until I got it right.

29:16Shannon Sharpe:So if it's three, four elevators, I'm going to press it and I'm going to go stand in front of one that I think is going to open. And once that door open that I'm standing in front of, oh, they're in trouble. That team that we played in trouble. I already know what you was on. I'm going to give them that work. Hey, K, you had superstitions? You had a routine that you followed? Yeah, I don't know. I just, no. My superstition, like, no, I was big in my faith. So, like, before every game, no, I just open up the Bible, I'll pray first, and whatever scripture comes up, I'll just read it. It's a different meaning to me when I read.

29:53I read in just words, just words like strength, God got you, things like that. It always comes for tuition in real life. I've just forever been doing that.

30:07Shannon Sharpe:Why Ohio State? Why Ohio State? You got Georgia, you got all them schools, and you leave Georgia. I mean, you leave the A and go way to Ohio. Man, you know, this draft, man, we got five guys in the first round, man. Hold on, I got to give a special shout-out to all the five, man. We got Caleb, man, if you in here, Cardinal, Arvell, Sonny, them boys, man. Them boys some dogs, but we develop, man. It's a real development. Yeah. You know, it prepares you every day. You train like a pro. You know, nutrition, you got to be like a pro. You got to be accountable every day on and off the field. I like that.

30:47Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You said one word. You said, well, I heard a word that I hear all the time. You said nutrition. Now, when it comes to nutrition, what's your diet look like? What you eating? What they telling you to eat? Man, like I said, man, I'm big in that seafood, man. I'm a seafood secret. You know, hey, shout out hunting team, man. Seafood secret, man. I'm a big salmon guy. I love to see salmon. Okay. Especially, I'm superstitious, man. I eat the same thing the whole week, man. On a Tuesday, I go salmon. Wednesday, Chipotle. Thursday, we got to go. Yeah. We got to go big, man.

31:21Shout out McDonald's. Oh, we got to go big, man. We got to go big, man. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, see, you know what? See, just because of that, I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you right now, boy, you're going to be great. You're going to be great for the simple fact. Hey, listen, you eating healthy, but obviously, you go on other places too. Like, you know, McDonald's was me. I wasn't superstitious, but I had McDonald's every game. I still eat it today. And I think that's the reason for my success. You don't get hurt often. You know why you don't get hurt often? It ain't the salmon.

31:54It's not your nutritionist. It's the fact that you eat Big Macs. I'm telling you that's what it is. I know what I'm talking about. Hey, Matt.

32:01Shannon Sharpe:How much you weigh, bro? 3 what? Like 325 right now. Solid. Oh, that's life. That's life for him. But when I watch you on the field, though, you so nimble, so you carry that weight so well. How's your training regimen? Like, how you getting them? Like, is football the only sport you ever played? Bro, man, you got to really look me up. You got to do your research, man. I've been hooping since I was five, man. Yeah. I really wanted to become like you, man. I used to go to the game. I see Joe Johnson. You feel me? Mike Bibby, Jamal Crawford. Yeah. Man, yeah, all that. But, no, I played. I was a multi-sport athlete.

32:40You know, in high school, I played running back. I had, like, 500 yards, 12 touchdowns. Damn. And I was a dog.

32:46Shannon Sharpe:Damn, K. Oh, you was told that. You was told that, Big, huh? Yeah, for sure. But see, you see what happened, K? When you start eating the Big Macs, you grew out of running back position. See, if you'd have gave up the Big Macs and kept eating salmon, you'd have been a running back. You'd have been Jameer Gibbs. But you'd have been Derrick Henry. Hey, what would be my nickname if I was a running back? Bruiser? They call you Big Mac. Bruiser? Big Mac. Yeah. You'd been running over people. Yeah. Your name be Big Mac. What? You'd been running. You'd been running. Hey, so what position you playing basketball?

33:23Shannon Sharpe:Were you the point? You the center? Hey, you the two? I did it. Oh, man. I'm like point guard, man. I got to facilitate the offense, man. They run through me. They got to run through me. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Could you dunk? Could you dunk? No. I was a floater. I'm floaters. There you go. Oh, you J-D-R. You let that part take over. Yeah. I like it. I like it. So, I mean, obviously, as Ocho asked you to say, you know, this was a lifelong dream. You grew up, you know, playing in Texarkana and later moving to Atlanta and then playing the game of football. You played at JV, Pop Warner, JV. high school football, college football.

34:06Shannon Sharpe:Now, everything that you had is right there. We're two weeks. Basically, we're two weeks away. Yeah. We're two weeks away from the draft. Two weeks. And everything that you had hoped for and you dreamed about, you prayed about, you said you're a man of faith, and it's about to happen. Have you thought about in that moment, are you going to get emotional? Are you going to think, you know, like, damn, mom, we did it, bro. So we're here now. week. Man, I think about that every day. It's getting closer. We two weeks away. Just the whole life, my whole life, man, I just felt like the underdog. I finally get to celebrate with the people that's the closest to me.

34:47Mama, I got big bro, sister, auntie, all the fans from Arkansas coming. My best friends from Georgia. It's going to be a good night. Just all the work I put in, You know, it's a lot of sacrifices you got to make. I know as a kid, like back at home, that's looking up to me. So, you know, I got to make that happen so they can do the same thing I'm doing. And that's my motivation.

35:12Shannon Sharpe:That's what's up. Hey, K-May, one thing I'm going to tell you, bro. I know you probably working your butt off right now because, you know, you about to, you know, approach a lifelong dream. The one thing I'm going to tell you, bro, keep that dog mentality. Even when you get drafted, even when you get that, like, never let your foot up. You know what I mean? Keep working hard, bro. And I always remember, you know, never lose that discipline that you have now. You know, the workouts that you got to go through, how you eat. Man, when you get in the NFL, bro, don't let up, bro. Don't let up. For sure.

35:50Shannon Sharpe:You see that hunger? Because a lot of times what happened is that, okay, my lifelong dream was get to the NFL. Yes, sir. because this is not the destination. This is the journey. Your destination is once you're done with your career. So that same drive and determination that you got up and trained for in high school and what you did in college, because the scouting report said you're a striker, which lets me know you're great with your hands and you're like, I'm physical. And the one thing I know about Matt Patricia, he knows how to come up with the run game. You got to be great with your hands.

36:25Shannon Sharpe:Nah, son. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Swoon out. You trying to go somewhere. Get up on my line. You trying to get up on my line back in the middle. You're right here. Shed. Yeah, Coach Matt Patricia, you know, he put a lot on my back this year. And it's one thing he always be telling me. He be strong in the middle. You know, that's where it starts. You know, that's where it's going. That's where it's going in. Everything. And I just took it personal. Each game. You know, now we here. Draft. So, man, it's a blessing. You know? Yeah. You going to be all right. I know you're going to be all right because I asked you who you compare yourself to, who you're inspired to be like.

36:59And you said, nobody do it like you. You said, nobody do it like you. That let me know you're going in with the right mentality, the right mindset, and you can make your own name for yourself. So go in there, cause some goddamn havoc. Talk a little shit too. Don't be scared to talk no shit. Talk a little shit too. Let them know you're here. You know, I've arrived. So, man, I wish you nothing but success, young bull. And maybe, shoot, you might end up in Cincinnati.

37:22Shannon Sharpe:Well, it looks like the Bears, the Vikings, Buffalo, Houston, and Pittsburgh have all been labeled possible ladders. Where you get that from? Their preferences. Where you get that from? My source. But don't worry about it. You say do our homework, do our research. My source? Hey, my source. You tell us to do our homework, we do our homework.

37:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, man. Hey, so you done been to a few of these places? Yeah, I've been to a couple. I met with pretty much every team, you know? Yeah. You met with Cincinnati? On Monday, I am. On Monday, yeah. It's a beautiful place over there. Yeah, I'm in Foxborough right now. Yeah. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. So let me ask you this, okay? They come in and they say, you know what? Hey, Matt, Big Matt, what type of player are we getting? Tell me what. Hey, I'm a GM. I'm in charge of personnel and I'm doing all the draft and I come in and sit down and I say, hey tell me what type of player we get. It's only like three words, man.

38:29Day one impact.

38:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Day one impact. That's all I that's what I really say to the GMs and they know for sure.

38:43Shannon Sharpe:Hey, cut the tape on. That's it. That's another three words. Cut the tape on it. Tell me what you see. Tell me what you see. When you see me, tell me what you see. You know, you don't have to say too much. You don't got to tell them a story. They already know who you is. They already did their background check on you. Right. So you can't lie to them. And then you just tell them straight up. That's how I be, you know. Yeah. They done their homework. They know everything about you. They know your favorite food. They know where you like to hang out at. They know where you like to shop at. They know your dessert.

39:17Shannon Sharpe:They already know. Oh, yeah. Oh, you got your nice little car. You got your little car. Hey, everything. What y 'all drive right now? Joe, what you drive right now, man? I know you got something. Man, I ain't got but a Range Rover, bro. Oh, that's smooth. What about you, Unc? Man, you know, I'm old. I got a 2012 Range Rover and a 20 and a two. I got a 2020 760 BMW. I got an electric BMW and I got that ghost Hellcat. Ocho, what you got, Ocho? Cybertruck, Tesla McLaren 720p Lamborghini my smart car and shoot, that's it. I just Andy owe me a Lem Kate And he got all them cars. He don't pay no debt, K, man.

40:20Nah, I just bought my daughter a Tesla two days ago. So she happy. She hyped. You know what I'm saying?

40:26Shannon Sharpe:He doing all this stuff. Hey, look, K, man, what you do? What you do? I mean, you ever lend somebody some money? And every time you see him, he got on freshness. He got a new chain. He got on a new, he got on new, he got on new clothes. He got on some new kicks. Bro, I be seeing, bro, that just be crazy to me. Like, dang, you owe me that honey. Man, I see you with some new pants. Like, come on now. Man, just give me my honey back, bro. You know what it's going to come back through? Nah, but hey, K-Mac. K-Mac, this is what you don't understand, right? For unks sake, I owe him$11 ,000, right? But that's for emergency purposes only.

41:01So if you need it, just hit the glass and then boom. He been hitting the glass. He been hitting the glass. Yeah. Nah, he good. He good. He good. He got by 70. He can just name 17 cars. What he need by$11 ,000 for?

41:16Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, Mac, he buying Chrome Hearts. You know Chrome Hearts ain't cheap. He buying Chrome Hearts. He buying LV. He got Burberry. He got all that stuff. Hey, see? Hey, K-Mac, this is what he'll understand. I go to the boosters down here in Miami. I don't pay full price for nothing. They said they come to the barbershop. They come to the car shop. They said everything happened. Hey, well, booze my little dick. Hey, K-Mac, look, on Nightcap, bro, we be looking for hidden talents. And I heard that you're supposed to be five. You can make some five pancakes, boy. You can put it down like that? I can put it down, man.

41:56Hey, man, I got that flick of that wrist, man. What? Hey, for real. Hey, so you a chef, too? Man, I do it all, man. Whatever you need.

42:06Shannon Sharpe:What you need me to cook for you, man, when I come see you, man. Oh, you on that grill? Hold on. Hey, Mac, you on the grill like that? What type of steak? How you want to cook? Man, stop playing. I'm not playing. Hey, you know how to cook the wagon steak? That's easy. Easy. Yeah. Okay. You know? Hey, I ain't going to lie. I like going out there. I like Mastro's, man. What's y 'all steak at? Y 'all don't do the steakhouse? Y 'all don't? Oh, what y 'all don't? Oh, you have Mastro's? Butter cake. Butter cake. Every time. That butter cake like that, ain't it? So let me ask you this. You got a lady, man?

42:41No, I don't got no lady right now.

42:43Shannon Sharpe:Nah. I was going to say, if you had... Because, okay, let's just say you meet this lady and you kicking it and you want to bring her over and you want to cook a meal for her. What you cooking? What you dropping on the table? Man, first of all, like I said, I'm going to just go... We're going to go salmon. We're going to go salmon, green beans, and rice, man. We're going to have to keep it, you know, healthy. You got to. You don't want to do too much. Hey, hey, hey, hey. What you doing for dessert though?

43:21Shannon Sharpe:That what's up? That what's up. Well, y 'all shout out, man. Ain't nobody even said nothing. We just don't call the last. Yeah, because we know what's up. Hey, but hold on. K-Mac, check me out, right? Listen, you know, I'm down here in Miami, right? And you know, I know a whole lot of people, right? So if you need looking for a wife, a girlfriend or something, I got some eligible people - Rob Markman - K-Mac, K-Mac. Rob Markman - K-Mac. Rob Markman - That I can really align you. Rob Markman - I was waiting on you to say that, Joe. Rob Markman - We ain't said none of that, Ocho talking about. Look here.

43:52Shannon Sharpe:Hey, man. We finna live the American dream. You hear me? Rob Markman - Right, right, right. Rob Markman - Anything that's here, ton of vision. That's what we got. Everything over here, man, them just distractions, homie. Rob Markman - Don't be anything. Rob Markman - K-Mac. Rob Markman - I hear what he talking about, but listen, what's the American flag without the stars, huh? You hear me? What's the American flag without the stars? What's the American flag without the stripes? He talking about the American dream. Ain't no American dream without someone on your hip. You hear me? Stay locked in, K-Mac.

44:18Shannon Sharpe:Trust me, bro. Trust me. And you know, when they did the original American flag, it only had 13 stars. They added some more. So you could add some girls. Once you get about three, four, five years in the league, you could add some stars.

44:33Hey, I'm listening to Joe right now, man. There you go, man.

44:37Shannon Sharpe:You all right, bro. Stay locked in, homie. For sure. Yeah. I'm locked in, too. Man, hey, congratulations on all the success, man. You got a great personality. You're going to be very successful in this league because you have what it takes. You know what it takes. You have that discipline, that physicality, that desire to be great. Yes, bro. Appreciate you, man. We're going to be watching you at night, Cap. Hey, when you get drafted, call us back up. We want to talk to you. I got y 'all. I got y 'all. Hey, hey, hey, one more thing. One more thing. Whenever you come back to Atlanta, whenever you come to Atlanta, come holler at your boy.

45:10Shannon Sharpe:We do some high yoga. I make sure I keep you right, keep you nimble. Make sure you do it. You feel me? All right. That's cool. That's cool. I'm going to come to you, Joe. I'm going to come to you. That's cool. No. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Matt. Matt, me and Joe will get at you offline. We'll talk to you later. Yeah. Yeah. I got y 'all, man. Hey, man. All right. Hey, man, I got to get some rest, man. I got to get up early, man. Do your things. Hey, hell yeah. Appreciate your stopping by, friend. Hey, you know what I mean? We're going to tap in. All ready. All right. All right, twin. All right, twin.

45:42If you are a founder or a freelancer or the friend who always says, hey, you know what? What if I started that? This is for you. I'm telling you I had nothing to my name. I didn't know a single person in New York.

45:53Shannon Sharpe:And somehow I'm dressed by Oscar de la Renta walking down that red carpet. This month, we sit down with entrepreneurs and creators who actually did it, who turned this scary leap into a business. a paycheck, and a life they are proud of. Direct center of our happiness or our regrets is whether or not we're taking action on the things that matter to us. They're not selfish. They're so important. They actually lead to our greatest contributions because when we're living fulfilled, we actually show up better everywhere. We lead better. We're better friends. We're better relationships and collaborators and all those things because we have passion about the things we're doing.

46:28If you're trying to build something of your own this year, join us in these conversations that will make you braver and smarter with your money. Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault in Our Stars, and now I guess also as the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.

46:52Shannon Sharpe:I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty.

47:29Shannon Sharpe:Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro1021. And I'm Konky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.

48:10Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

48:22Shannon Sharpe:What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave and then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's like definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night.

48:58Shannon Sharpe:You can't be rolling around the city like this the night before games, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. And I'll be like, mommy, why did you miss that? Mommy, do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized Game with Stewie and Miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeart Podcast presents Soccer Moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hip since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip.

49:35Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a BOGO. Well, then you got them. You want a white collar or something? Here, just take it. What are y 'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. I would buy it.

49:58Shannon Sharpe:Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You're lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Oh. Oh. Listen to Soccer Moms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

50:30Shannon Sharpe:Miles Garrett skipped the start of Teams off-season program. That puts him on track to lose$1 million in 2026 compensation. Garrett contracts include a$1 million workout bonus in 2026. To earn it, Garrett must participate in... I can't hear you. We can't eat.

50:57Shannon Sharpe:Hey. What's that? What's up? Hey, Joe. Man, Miles ain't tripping about that. Man, please. A million? What do you mean he ain't tripping? Well, we talking about Miles Garrett, boy. He's not there for a reason. Huh? Sometimes, sometimes the message is clear. The message is always clear. What's the message, Ocho? Man, he don't want to be there, man. Come on, now. Come on, now. He don't want to be there. So you think that's why he ain't showing up for the, for the many camps? Yeah. He ain't never missed before. It's OTAs. Obviously, our OTAs is voluntary. It's in your contract. You don't have to come, but if you don't come, obviously you miss your money.

51:35He ain't never, he ain't never missed before, I'm sure. You know, don't quote me. I'm just saying, why would they make it a story now? If he's always been there, if he's always been there, if he's not showing up this year, you're not showing up for him.

51:45Shannon Sharpe:Hell, he got his money, Ocho. He took the money. If he ain't want to be there, money. He took the money. Come on, Joe. Can you guys hear me? We hear you. But here's the thing, Ocho. What do they have? What's different? A new coach. A new system. Remember we had the same thing with Lamar. We had this conversation about Lamar. New system. I'm like, Joe, if they'd had a million dollars in my contract, I would have been there. But like I said, they was trying to give me$50 a day. I said, to hell with you. I said, I worked my last$50 a day job when I was landscaping back in college. I said, ain't no more$50 a day for me.

52:24I got a question for you. Yes, sir. Think about this. Someone like Myles Garrett, you know. Yes. As well as he played last year, as well as he played in general. Someone like that, that is as valuable as they are, who is the identity, not just that defense, but the identity to that franchise. They still won, what, five games? Four games or whatever it may have been. Why not give him the opportunity to go somewhere else and give him a chance to win? Why not? Because you're losing with probably the greatest defense in that's playing in today's game. Why not give him an opportunity to do that?

53:02Shannon Sharpe:Well, maybe they... And I think the message to me, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm tripping. Chat, you can let me know if I'm tripping. But to not show up to OTAs, which you've always had. and there's a new regime, new coach of staff, new defensive scheme, new offensive scheme, everything being implemented in, and you don't show up? I mean, the message has always been clear. He doesn't have to come out and say it. You're actually going to show, okay, enough is enough? I might be wrong. I mean, I kind of thought that, like, okay, a new – like, a lot of times, like, when a new coach comes, you know, they can have three manic camps.

53:42Shannon Sharpe:You get in. and you want to show your face as a leader, and you're going to learn the defense, and plus a million dollars. I pick up a million dollars while I'm doing that. But, I mean, it would have been tough for me because when I'm there, I'm there. I really didn't go home off weeks and stuff like that. Some guys, we get off, and we wouldn't have to be back until Wednesday, and some guys would go wherever they go. I was never like that. So when I was there in Denver, I was there. Once I left, I wasn't trying to be back until I absolutely positively had to be back. Yeah, I ain't do that. I ain't do that.

54:17Joe, our off-season program was 13 weeks. It was Monday through Thursday. Friday through Sunday was off. Nine times out of ten, that Friday through Sunday, I'm going back to Miami. And I would always do the morning work on a Thursday, and I'd get on a flight Thursday evening, fly to Miami, relax here, don't do anything, probably do some training as well, relax Thursday, then back on the plane Sunday night and then repeat it. It was a 13-week program. It was fun. I really enjoyed it because I'm a gym rat, Joe. Hell, I can't stay out of the gym now. Now I'm playing nothing. So you could imagine back then when I was playing.

54:54So I was excited to go to the off-season program and just see the fellas, man. It was cool to see the fellas.

54:59Shannon Sharpe:I was running no fellas. Hey, I'm just... I remember my rookie early on because Dan, that was a big thing for Dan. You had to be there. I was like, man, I sure hope I can get good enough one day I don't have to come to this issue. As soon as I got good enough I ain't had to come to this issue. Oh, yeah. Hey, you one of our leaders. I'm leading from Atlanta. That's who I'm leading from. I'm leading from Atlanta. No, no, no, no, no, no. Y 'all not paying. Y 'all paying him to lead. He's making the big bucks. Y 'all ain't paying me to lead. I'll be in Atlanta. And besides, and then Mike just came to the realization and said, you know what?

55:39Shannon Sharpe:He's like, I remember in 96, I didn't come back. I didn't do no off-season program. And he was like, we was out there at practice. He said, let me see what you're looking like. So I pulled my shirt up. He's like, you ain't never got to worry about coming back. And you had the nuts in your stomach. What? Joe, shredded like a tax return. Hey, Joe, that's what I look like now, Joe. Yeah. Well, hey, that's that bad. That boy always look like I sent an email. It's gone. Disappearance, Joe. I don't like that. Yeah, man. But I'm like, Joe, you know damn well if the bingos put a million dollars. Yeah.

56:29Shannon Sharpe:No matter how much you, you ain't let that go. Hey, mine was only$250, and I was there. So a million. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I'm there. I'm there. And you know, it's funny too, Uncle. I'm there. When it comes to my craft in general, you don't have to incentivize for me because I love what I do. I love working. I love training. I just, I love being in that environment. But just the fact that to be there, you mean you're going to pay me this to be there? Yeah. And I already like to do it anyway? Well, hell, shoot. Thank you. No, no, no, no. But see, the thing is with that, I did away with the sentence of my contract.

57:02Shannon Sharpe:After they screwed me out of that$100 ,000, I ain't put no more incentive. What do you mean? How they screw you out of that$100 ,000? What happened? Because, man, I'm supposed to get$100 ,000 for 1 ,000 yards. Joe, I had 995 yards at the half. I had 116 yards and two touchdowns. And they ain't throw the ball to you? On six catches. And they ain't catch another pass that's the second half. Hey, Unc, they did that on purpose. I know they did. And guess what? I ain't put another. Tell me, you want incentive? I want nothing. Because y 'all going to pay me what y 'all are supposed to pay me, and I'm supposed to lead the team in catches.

57:32Shannon Sharpe:I'm supposed to lead the team in yards. I'm supposed to be an all pro. I'm supposed to go to the pro bowl. I don't need y 'all to incentivize that. Because y 'all paying me enough, that's what I'm supposed to do. I don't need no extra. Hey, Joe, they play that game like that with a lot of people, Joe. Yeah, I know. Hey, I ain't going to lie, boy, that football cut through. That football. Hey, Joe, they play that game with a lot of people. When you have incentives, you need the catches, you need certain yards as a running back, they will play with you. If you're being on the field, a certain amount of snaps, all that stuff, they keep track of everything.

58:03They keep track of everything. And they will not let you hit it depending on who you are. And they do it on purpose every time. Like that little chunk of change compared to what they have is going to make a big difference.

58:14Shannon Sharpe:Because you got to realize$100 ,000 was a lot of money to me because I was only making$325 ,000. Right. $100 ,000, hey, that's not a little chunk of change in whole shape. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And you know, I had I had three Pampers That got your boy About two, three years of Pampers right there

58:38Shannon Sharpe:Hey, daycare Man, you know daycare was expensive back then I don't know what daycare is now But I know it's expensive on your mind Yes sir I can only imagine I mean, you gonna know what it's like soon I don't know nothing I thought we talked about this fellas no we no no you and Joe talking about it no no no Joe was on my side Joe said he done Joe and me and Jimmy hey hey you know what you know what I just thought about think about this think about how other ethnicities other races they plan having their kids at the same time so they can do everything together can you imagine all us you know with our babies pushing strollers at the park nah I can't I can't imagine that nah pretty soon somebody gonna have to push me that's gonna be my big ass in the chair

59:28Shannon Sharpe:what the hell you talking about hey it's a movie it's a movie like that I can't remember what movie it is I think that would be dope though like that's a movie listen that's a TV series in itself you know Nightcap with the kids I'm already sitting in the third seat in the SUV I'm already sitting at the very back with the thing pulled down with my leg on top of it. I'm done, Ocho. I told you I'm going to practice. I'm going to practice. I'm doing all I can. But I'm a coach. Don't put me in. I don't know no plays. Hey, Ocho. Ocho, your boy over here, I ain't doing nothing but shooting blanks, man.

1:00:07Shannon Sharpe:I cut the line over here. Yeah. Line cut over here, man. Oh, man. God ain't going to be... I ain't got no doggy water. But no, come on, Joe. You did that, Joe? I struck out. Ocho, I got three. Three strikes you out, baby. But Joe, you weren't supposed to cut the line because all numbers is bad luck. Joe, it's in the Bible. Ain't no bad luck. Your boy ain't doing nothing shooting blanks, man. That's all right. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, me and my lady, we just practicing. We just practicing. That's it. Ocho, I ain't got nothing but some pond water in me. This ain't strong at all. Damn, man. I can't believe it.

1:00:47Shannon Sharpe:This water ain't got no bubbles to it. This ain't no sparkling water over here. You know that old fizz? They say, what you want, flat or sparkling? Give me flat. Because that's all I got in me, flat. Hey, man, y 'all done messed up. I just had it. I envisioned us having a TV show as new fathers after 40. I mean, listen, Netflix was going to pick that up. Hey, hey, hey. Now, I can reconnect it. I can reconnect the line now, but it's got to be worth it. You know what I mean? Oh, I'm going to talk to Netflix. Because they approached me about it. I said, listen, I'm going to talk to the fellas and see what they want to do.

1:01:22Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. I ain't going to hold you with that one. You ain't got one more in y 'all. There we go, Joe. There we go, Joe. I ain't got it, Joe. I ain't going to lie to you. I wish I could tell you something, but I ain't got it even though. I ain't going to hold you right. But because of who you are, because the value in which we possess, They were talking north of 400 million. Huh? You're just going to want to be. Boy. Listen, I ain't telling you what I heard. I ain't telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know. Boy, look here. Hey. Hey, I would have to take this sausage out of the case.

1:02:06Shannon Sharpe:I would have to take it out of the case. I just said, hey, man, come on now. That's how the bread. Hey, look. Hey, listen, I'm just telling you what they told me. Now, it was a conversation in vague, you know, and I was visioning. I was giving them the play and the possibility of it happening. And I'm like, man, that would be dope because no one has ever had anything like that. Nobody at the same time, you know, it do wonders. You know what? You know what, guys? I'll be honest with you. If I was close to your age, if I was in my mid-40s, I'd say, you know what, guys? Let's do it. And I'm damnedest 60 years old.

1:02:44Shannon Sharpe:It's all right. Hey. And by the time that thing set in, you know, I had to catch one when she just right about seven days afterwards. Catch her just right. Probably about four, five times a day for like three, four days. Right. You good? You good. That's where they got them roast balls. Man, I'm 75, 76 years old going to a high school graduation. What's wrong with that? They talking about Luke Sterling. because I would name him after my brother, Little Sterling. Your granddaddy out here, that's my daddy, fool.

1:03:19I don't know. I mean, them numbers sounded real good, which is why I keep... They do sound good.

1:03:24Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, hey, mama changing two sets of diapers. His and mine. Hey, pick up some diapers. For me or for him. Oh, man. That's funny, bro. Hey, boy, I know what you mean, boy. I don't know what that... Joe said, I reconnected a lot.

1:03:52Shannon Sharpe:Man, Ocho, I didn't damn, but Ocho, you got eight. I know, I know. I want twins, and I'm done. That'll put you right at a... Not only will you have a starting five, but you got a bench, too. Yeah, and my bench is going to be just like OKC. Damn. I'm saying how many boys you got Ojo damn you only got two yeah my son my youngest son here he play receiver at New Orleans he here with me now damn you only got hold on you got six girls and two boys yeah you don't have a number you don't have twin girls you don't have eight and two I'm doing FBI make sure you have boys ain't no FBI in vitro. I said FBI.

1:04:48Shannon Sharpe:IVF in vitro fertilization. Oh, okay. Yeah. No, FBI, they investigate. You don't need to investigate nothing.

1:05:03Shannon Sharpe:Nah, hell nah. man please and that and you are you don't want that cause you already know man you don't know how much that costs man them things cost what man that's expensive no it ain't IVF come on IVF probably what maybe 2000 hell no it's about 20-25k 20-25 30 ,000 man don't don't let the people rip you off come on now that's a rip off now you you have to you have to go to multiple places and do and do the price comparisons like Boy, they mess around and put a chicken egg in your girl. That boy, hey, he going to somebody's backyard. You be a gay bird to a two-pound hen. Man, you better go to a...

1:05:49Shannon Sharpe:Joe, he better go to a regular... Hey, you be like the people that be suing. All of a sudden, it's a white couple and they got a black baby. Or this black couple, they got an Asian... Man, you better go to somewhere. You're talking about you trying to save money. I'm talking about somebody's backyard. I'm talking about, man, please. Yeah. They got a chicken baster. Like they put gravy on the turkey. Hey, that's funny. Hell no, Ocho. I'm good, man. I got you. The Jacksonville Jaguars expect Travis Hunter to be a full-time corner and a part-time receiver. Rappaport adds Hunter is expected to be a full participant in training camp as he continued to recover from an LCL tear that ended his 2025 rookie season.

1:06:38Shannon Sharpe:Hunter's snap count weighed heavily in favor of the offensive side of the ball last year. Overall, in 2025, Hunter saw 324 snaps on offense, 162 snaps on defense. So, hold on, Joe. what Ian Rappaport is reporting is what you and I have been saying. Yes. Yes. Go ahead. Take it. I want y 'all to take the conversation. I don't want to be one of them guys to say I told you. Go ahead Ocho. I mean Joe and obviously Travis his dream was going to the NFL. He said it to multiple teams is I'm hoping to do exactly what I did at Colorado. I want to be able to play both sides of the ball and be able to impact the game on both sides of the ball.

1:07:21Well, Unk said, and I said as well, and I agree with him, that would be too much because of the level of talent and elite players at certain position. Think about it. Travis Hunter playing DB, then having to cover Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, you know, and some of the elite wide receivers in the league. And then having to turn right back around and go play on goddamn offense and play receiver. and then still be of value and being very, very tactical and technical when it comes to playing a position. So at that point, you could only be just good on both ends. We could focus on one position and be great at defensive back, which you're really good at, and then have packages to play on offense, which can also be impactful where they have special plays designed just for you to get the ball because with the ball in your hands, well, you are special.

1:08:14especially but a full-time TV is perfect it says in the wake of Hunter's injury last season

1:08:22Shannon Sharpe:fans were calling the Jags to choose just one position for Travis though we could see Hunter get some snaps at wide receiver in 2026 it looks like he will be dedicated a dedicated cornerback for the foreseeable future that's what he said it's easier I'll tell you I mean in order for this and I didn't think like I said 130 snaps a game? I said it's easier for him to play corner and build a couple of packages in Ocho. We got a couple of sets like they did for Chandler Bailey like they did for some of the other guys like they did for Time. There have been other guys that played. Charles Woodson Yeah, Woody Roy Green actually started it off as a corner, got some plays at wide receiver, and then he was so good, they ended up moving the wide receiver and took him out of the corner.

1:09:16Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead, Joe. I agree with Ocho. I think him being a DB and then kind of similar with Uncle just saying how the Cowboys use Deion. He was a DB, but they had a package in there for Deion for where he would be on offense from time to time. And I think that's the same way the Jaguars probably going to use Travis Hunter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you say, 130-something snaps a game, hell, that's basically full time on both sides, right? And it takes a toll on you, bro, because you never get a rest. Nah. Nope. Nope. I like it. I like that. I like it too. Jags are doing this so he can focus on one thing, focus on being the best defensive back he can be, depending on where they move them.

1:10:08Listen, and obviously, as great as you are, I hope you become not just a DB, but a traveling DB, a DB that follows the one.

1:10:17Shannon Sharpe:Do that. You want somebody hitting that payday up, hitting another payday? Follow the number one on every team and then have small packages on offense and go impact the game that way. Hey, look, I understand what you guys are saying. Hell, y 'all played the game at a very high level, but I love seeing Travis on offense too on Calocho he's electric when he catches the ball you know what I mean I feel like he's always a big play away you feel what I'm saying so I definitely hope they still keep him on offense you know from time to time it ain't gotta be you know every down but for the most part I want to see that electric side of him too yeah of course and I think the thing is look you got Parker Washington you got Brian Thomas Jr.

1:11:05Shannon Sharpe:that had an offseason so you can plug in men defensively is where like okay we need a little help here guys that can get after the quarterback we can really use travel like you said Ocho, travel take care of it because you got Nico Collins and you got guys in that division that you're going to have to deal with yeah Peace to the planet, Charlamagne the Godhead and listen We are back. The Black Effect Podcast Festival is back in Atlanta on April 25th at Pullman Yard. Yeah. And the full lineup is nuts. We got the Grit Sinead's podcast, Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat. We got Club 520 with Jeff Teague and the gang.

1:11:45Yeah, yeah. Don't call me white, girl. Mona will be there. Keep it positive, sweetie, with Crystal Renee. We got Reality with the King with Carlos King. And yes, Drink Champs will be in the building.

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1:12:18Shannon Sharpe:I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend who's much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far. But I'm John Green, co-host of the podcast The Away End, with my old friend Daniel. On our podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to The Away End with Daniel Alarcón and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This Financial Literacy Month, we are talking about the one investment most people ignore, building a business around the life you actually want.

1:12:56It was just us making happen whatever he said was going to happen, and then it happened. On Dos Amigos, entrepreneurs like Amir Kassam and Joe Huff get real about money, taking risks, and while your dream might be the smartest move. At the end of my life, what am I really going to care about? And the conclusion I came to is what I did to make the world a better place in whatever way. Listen to Dos Amigos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro1021. And I'm Konky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast.

1:13:30I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to The 1021 Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:13:56Shannon Sharpe:I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk tanking. I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA. We talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this the night before games. Check out Game Recognized Game with Stewie and Miles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.