In short
The episode is a sports talk roundup focused on NFL drama and scheme debates. It opens with a discussion of Shedeur Sanders’ “issue” with Jerry Jeudy, framed as a trust/chemistry problem: the hosts argue Jeudy wants targets and production, but the quarterback is a rookie (only his second start), so timing and route rhythm need time. Key claims include that Jeudy is a “solution” with elite route-running and separation, yet public criticism centers on drops; one host says Jeudy leads the league in drops/targeted-pass drop rate. Notable examples cited: a 35-yard completion knocked out late; comparisons to other receivers’ “number one” status; and the idea that offenses with better QB play and systems change receiver output.
The episode then shifts to Antonio Brown Hall of Fame talk. Terrell Suggs is referenced saying AB likely isn’t first-ballot due to off-field issues, and the hosts debate the Hall’s criteria and “moving goalposts.” Finally, Jason Kelsey comments on Shanahan-tree vs West Coast offenses, claiming West Coast/pro-style systems translate better to Super Bowl wins.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCleveland Browns Drama Unfolds
3:05 to 4:26
Discussing the implications of social media commentary from a player’s fiancée.
“Come for the sports, stay for the stories.”
The Impact of Family Comments
4:26 to 6:02
Exploring how family members' comments can affect players' reputations.
“So even if you were to send and then hit delete, it's gone.”
Navigating Social Media Challenges
6:02 to 7:36
Analyzing how social media influences perceptions in sports.
“Because I don't believe, see, when she said the locker, when she said, hold on, what did she say?”
Responsibility of Significant Others
7:36 to 9:16
Discussing the pressure spouses and partners place on athletes in public.
“that you only know, oh, that's Dylan Gabriel, fiance.”
The Athlete's Perspective on Public Statements
9:16 to 11:06
Understanding how athletes perceive comments made by their partners.
“yeah it's Chad it's just a bad spot to put your significant other in, in the locker room.”
Navigating Fame and Relationships
11:06 to 14:01
Advice for those dating public figures on managing public scrutiny.
“Chad, it's kind of like, Ocho, if somebody in jail and they escape, the first place they go is where?”
Understanding Celebrity Relationships
14:01 to 16:58
Discussing the challenges of dating public figures and the need for discretion.
“So just be, just, just be mindful of that, that your actions going to reflect back on him.”
Understanding Celebrity Relationships
17:59 to 18:52
Discussing the challenges of dating public figures and the need for discretion.
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Shadour Sanders and Jerry Judy's Chemistry
20:01 to 23:04
Analyzing the developing chemistry between rookie QB Shadour Sanders and WR Jerry Judy.
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Evaluating Jerry Judy's Skill Set
23:04 to 28:01
Debating Jerry Judy's performance and potential as a wide receiver in the NFL.
“After practice, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, stay out a little bit longer.”
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Debating NFL Receivers' Status
28:01 to 33:04
A heated discussion on whether various NFL receivers, including Jerry Judy and Drake London, are considered number one receivers.
“Are they building game plans to stop Jerry Judy?”
Importance of Situational Context in Player Evaluation
33:04 to 36:04
Exploring how players' situations, including their quarterbacks and team dynamics, affect their performance and evaluations.
“Well, 90 % of the chat disagree with you.”
Antonio Brown's Hall of Fame Candidacy
37:11 to 42:01
Discussion on Antonio Brown's Pro Football Hall of Fame candidacy and the impact of off-field conduct on player evaluations.
“See nutrition info on Hero.co for sodium and sugar content.”
Antonio Brown's Hall of Fame Chances
42:01 to 43:59
Discussion on Antonio Brown's complicated path to the Hall of Fame.
“Do I think he's going to have a hard time getting in based on his history of his off-the-field activity and the way he conducted himself in Pittsburgh?”
West Coast vs Shanahan Offense
44:00 to 47:37
Exploration of the differences between West Coast and Shanahan offensive systems.
“West Coast offense while it's not as you know as ridiculously interesting as some of the Shanahan principles and things, I think it probably translates when you have great players into more success at the end of the day.”
The Art of Offensive Strategy
47:38 to 49:36
Analyzing the effectiveness of offensive strategies in football.
“They do a lot of – got their own – put their own spin on the no-cho, but that's what it is.”
Clinton Portis: Talent vs. Attitude
49:37 to 51:21
Debate on Clinton Portis's talent compared to his commitment to the game.
“Putting them in position, make those plays, it's a beautiful thing.”
Darius Slay and the Buffalo Bills Situation
51:22 to 55:15
Discussion about Darius Slay's decision regarding the Buffalo Bills.
“If I see who's leaving, who do you think will see him leaving?”
Players' Perspectives on Team Dynamics
55:16 to 56:01
Conversations about players' motivations and team dynamics in the NFL.
“when the playoff drive was broken, he then retired after two weeks before the season began.”
Slade's Potential Move to Philly
56:01 to 58:51
Discussion on Slade's desire to return to the Philadelphia Eagles and team dynamics.
“Or maybe, you know, I just don't see and understand how much Slade loves the game.”
Debate Over Suite Pricing and Costs
58:52 to 1:02:05
A lively debate about the costs of suites at NFL games and personal experiences.
“Man, I mean they try to pay money like that, Ocho.”
Transcript
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3:13Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I bet Hard Knocks wishing they were following the Cleveland Browns around this year. Now, it's Dylan Gabriel, significant other, jumping into the drama. Whoa, what happened? A TikTok saying, my fiancee Dylan is not playing. I have thoughts about that, but I'm not going to share it. She then captioned another with Brown's loss. What's new? But then he got into a disagreement with a commenter on a post and wrote, actually, everyone in the building wants him to play, but you wouldn't know because you've never been into the NFL or coach, right? Well, you know, I mean, listen, we see this all the time.
3:54We see family members display their frustrations, whatever they may be, really not understanding how the game works, you know, the ins and outs of it. And, you know, she wants her fiance to be on the field. You know, he's not on the field. Shador has been chosen to be the quarterback. How would she know everybody in the building wants him to play?
4:12Shannon Sharpe:I mean, they've been on the news for how long? I'm asking you how does she know that unless somebody pillow talking oh come on man I tell you what let Chance let when you in Cincinnati let Chance say man my brother ain't getting the ball they need to throw the brother my ball or trade it right what you tell me what you think the people in Cincinnati and what the Bengals organization gonna think where did that come from oh that that I said something what you be I said something you know that came that came from you even if it didn't that's what they're going to believe that's why I always tell family, friends and loved ones be mindful of what you say because whether they said it or not it's going back to them I mean, that's his wife you know they have those conversations I'm sure he does, of course I want to play of course I want to start you go home and who's the one person you have peace and get vent to when it comes to, oh honey how was your day at work well shit I ain't starting those are conversations that are had between a couple a husband and wife a fiance you know i mean that that's that's normal and she's venting and her frustration is about oh damn here we go what's new we done lost again but you have to be careful now ocho because back then there was no social media that your significant other could go to ah now there's a platform yes called social media that they can go to and disseminate information all across the world and instantaneous.
5:44Shannon Sharpe:So even if you were to send and then hit delete, it's gone. Oh, it's too late. It's gone. It's too late. Once you hit send, it's a wrap. Man, Lord have mercy. I just wish people understood that it put Dylan in a bad spot. Right. Because I don't believe, see, when she said the locker, when she said, hold on, what did she say? actually the building. When she say the building, I don't think, I think it's from locker room up. I don't think it's the locker room down. I don't think it's the locker room. I think it's from above the locker room up. The building, I think that's the executive. I think that's the front office.
6:24Hold on, we already know that though. We already know that. Based on the words, based on things that have been said, you know, you know that part. But down below, where it really matters, the meat and potatoes of the team, I don't need to say no more because I can't throw anybody else under the bus. You know, like I slipped up a long time ago. I don't want to do that again but that's what they want. Just be... That's what they want. Inside that building. The people that's going to war. And I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know.
7:03Shannon Sharpe:What I don't understand is that people need to understand you're not the center of attention. If you weren't dating Dylan Gabriel, how many people you think would know who she is? That's what anybody, unless you're Taylor Swift. Now, Taylor Swift is a different animal. Everybody knows who she is, even if she's not dating Trav. But when you look at it, Sierra Russell, okay, that's a different dynamic. But when we're talking about somebody that doesn't have that name or brand recognition that you only know, oh, that's Dylan Gabriel, fiance. Right. Oh, that's Ocho's wife. Man, that's Ocho's significant other.
7:46Shannon Sharpe:So anything that gets said out of her mouth, that relates back to football, Ocho talking ass. That's how it is. I'm sorry. It's just like stuff at work. When stuff come back to work, oh I told you that I told you that I've seen situations get messy because something got said in the locker room somebody went back and told their wife a girlfriend and it got all over the place all over the place damn and you know where it came from because we talked about it in the locker room it ain't none of the wife, girlfriend, significant others Beyonce's or whatever they want to be within the locker room to hear it.
8:34Shannon Sharpe:So one of you mofos said it. Running your mic. And in that group, it ain't but a small group. It ain't like we talking aloud across the room. Uh-huh. We're talking in a small group, four or five. Yeah. Or we on the practice field. It's easy to pinpoint who says something. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I always ask somebody hey man Sean let me tell you something I be like okay who else you told? man I ain't told nobody because I don't want you to tell somebody else and then they get out and then you tell me I'm a sharp I ain't tell nobody I'm a sharp you a damn lie because if you already told somebody else don't tell me yeah hold on hold on
9:23Shannon Sharpe:yeah it's Chad it's just a bad spot to put your significant other in, in the locker room. Because I'm telling you how athletes think, be it football, basketball, baseball, when something gets out and it's team-related. They're like, what? She must have heard him say that. He's saying that. Even if it's not true, she could have just been going out on a whim on her own and saying how she feels. Dylan might not have said anything, but they're still going to attach it.
9:58Shannon Sharpe:it's just like anything else. If somebody does something, the first place they go look. Yeah. Yeah, hey. You see that? Yes, sir. First of all, why you got my jersey, Ocho? Why you got my jersey? Hey, listen. Hey, when I ate, let me tell you something. When I, hold on, let me tell you how I got the jersey. Hold on. Hey, see, when you was out of town, right, when you were traveling and you were doing them alcohol, hey, listen, you were doing one of them alcohol signings and I had to break in your house, right, and I had to steal my trophies. Dude, I snatched one of these jerseys up off of you. I snatched one of these jerseys, too.
10:42Shannon Sharpe:How about we make a trade? Huh? How about we make a trade? Nah, don't worry about it. I'm going to keep this. I'm going to keep this. I mean, I'm going to keep this for the rest of my trophies. Hey, this is the real deal, too. Look, look at the sleeves. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, Joe, I got the home and the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. The beach high tide. I like that. I tell you what, when you send the rest of my awards, I got you. Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate this. Hey, it's heavy. It's stitched up, too. This is the real deal, right? Oh, yeah. Hold on, hold on. You see what that's doing?
11:17Yeah. Hey, we look about the same. See the guns? Yes, sir. Yeah, I appreciate that.
11:30I just...
11:33Shannon Sharpe:Chad, it's kind of like, Ocho, if somebody in jail and they escape, the first place they go is where? Their mom or their girl. He ain't got no... He got to be going there. Their mom or their girl. So when somebody says something and it has to do with the locker room, even if like I said Ocho even if that's her even if those are her own thoughts and she I like to believe she's smart enough and she can have her own thoughts but that's not what people are going to believe no not at all and I don't think she's thinking about it that way anyway she was just more so expressing her feelings based on how she feels about wanting her husband or husband to be you know to actually be out there actually playing so but she knows she knows better now because she's gonna get the backlash and then it's gonna fall on Dylan Gabriel and he gonna get pissed.
12:26What are you doing? You can't be doing that. They're both new to this. They're both new to this. And she will understand. You gotta be careful before you hit sin, you got to think. Because once you hit it, it's there for life.
12:41Shannon Sharpe:And guess what else, Ocho? Guess who gonna get asked about this? You think they're gonna ask 12 about this? You think they're gonna ask Stefanski about this? Of course. Unnecessary. Look, they should be like, okay, what do you guys need to do to get a win? What do you guys need? Blah, blah, blah. Right. Now I've got to answer questions about something. A lady that ain't going to the game to see Dillon. Yeah. Now I've got to answer questions about what she said. That ain't got nothing to do that's going to help us win a football game, Mocho. Nothing whatsoever. Yeah. Hey, it just adds to the circus.
13:23Shannon Sharpe:adds unnecessary fuel to the fire. So I just, like, Chad, I would just recommend anybody, young ladies, if you're dating a guy in college or high school and you guys might be together, just keep that in mind. Everything you say that's related to football is going to be tied back to him. And you might be your own person. You have your own thoughts. You have your own mind. And I get to talk. I can speak freely. but they're going to tie it back to him. And that's not fair. And that's not fair to him. And you don't want to put that kind of stress. You don't want to put that kind of pressure and you don't want to sign shine that kind of light on him.
14:04Shannon Sharpe:So just be, just, just be mindful of that, that your actions going to reflect back on him. It's going to, it's going to tie back. It's going to tie back to him. Just like if you do something out, Oh man, man, man, you see, man, you heard what happened to Ocho girl. Man, you heard, man, they say shop girl was acting a fool in the mall.
14:29Yeah.
14:30Shannon Sharpe:It's different when you date a celeb, entertainer, actor, actress. It's a different set of rules. Yes. And you have to move differently. You got to abide by it. You can't like, oh, I move how well. You can't do that. Because now you can't just think about you. You have to think about that other person and the possible jeopardy of perils you might put them in. and I don't think enough people do that. No. But you should. I mean, the really ones, Ocho, you ain't never seen Peyton Manning's wife or heard her say anything, have you? No. See, that's a different type of understanding. I had no idea until she walked up to me.
15:08Shannon Sharpe:She said, you don't know who I am. I said, I sure don't. She said, I'm Ashley, man. I said, how you doing? Yeah. Had a great, I mean, so many people that you wouldn't even know. that's their why because they like, hey, stay in the shadows, do what I do. I understand. Well, some understand they have to play the background. Some understand they have to play the background and they're not the main character. I understand I'm not the main character and I know my place and I know my role. They're a lot like that. Then there are some that want to be front and center. Okay, that's my man. I need to be front and center right along with him.
15:44It's different. Everybody's different. It also depends on who you're dating. Yes. Some people date you just because they want to be front and center.
15:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And quarterbacks, first of all, quarterbacks borrow the different level. Yes. You're basically dating the CEO. Yes. You date the CEO. The guy. So you definitely, you definitely have to be willing to take a backseat. Mm-hmm. You got to be like Savannah James. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She ain't going, hey, she going to do a little podcast. She got a little, whatever she got going on. Mm-hmm. Look, they try to beat up Ayesha Curry, but I understand what she's saying. I understand what she's saying. But, man, I just hate it. I just, you know, understand. They're young, though, Joe. Sometimes you have to make a mistake before you understand the gravity of what you're in.
16:39Shannon Sharpe:And then you get a true understanding of what you're dealing with. So hopefully she learned that. Just keep that to yourself. Okay, the building wants him to play. And when that time comes, he gets an opportunity to get back in there. He plays well. He's over the hole down the spot. But don't you go on social media and act. Copenhagen's spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks. More mechanics. Stuck on a fused spark plug. The long-haul trucker is stuck in gridlock. Performing. Working late at the field office. or anytime there's no time or space to spit, there's Copenhagen spit-free pouches.
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20:09Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Tadur Sanders says he's working hard to build trust with Jerry Judy. Tadur says it's going to take some time. That chemistry with guys like Jerry, I'm more of a trust person, so we have to spend some time on the task. It's just, and I told you, Ocho, any time you start doing this right here. Yeah. I mean, listen, Unc, it's a disconnect. You know, it's a disconnect. Once that Wi-Fi get on point, it's going to be all right. You got to understand these two ain't work together, Unc. chemistry is very important. I think people, those that have played the game at any level you understand, it's one thing, when you get to the NFL, right, you have to be able to, you have to work with your receivers.
20:51You got to work with receivers because just because you have a ball in your hand and you have a guy out there running routes doesn't mean you have an instant connection. True. There are certain little nuances that you have to have, certain rhythms and timing that you have to know that over a course of a training camp, over a course of the offseason that you get to know your receivers. I mean, right now, I understand their frustrations. They're not winning. Judy wants to get the ball. Judy wants to be productive in that offense, and things aren't going the way he'd like right now.
21:23Shannon Sharpe:But the problem that people are going to have is that, first of all, Shadour is a rookie quarterback in only his second start, like you said. But what about the previous eight games when Dylan Gabriel was in there and Joe Flacco was in there? So how many times do we see that kind of attitude on the sideline? Right. Because I'm sure Dylan Gabriel sailed a bunch of them. He killed a bunch of worms and knocked a couple of birds out of the sky. And we didn't see this. So people are like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Ju. The man just got in. This is only the second game starting. He's a rookie quarterback.
22:02Shannon Sharpe:If he was a second-year, third-year guy and y 'all still not on the same page, I would get it. But in this scenario, it's hard to get people to be on your side considering, if I'm not mistaken, he lead the league in drops. And you had a 35-yard completion that you let the guy come from behind you and knock the ball out. Yeah. So that's what people see. Now, last year he had an unbelievable season. Jameis did a great job of throwing him the ball. Crazy work last year. Yes. Crazy work. But Ocho, now we can't take one season and forget about the year that was in Denver before and what's going on right now.
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22:49Shannon Sharpe:We're not going to do that. I just want Jerry to understand that this is a rookie quarterback in only his second start. How about, I mean, maybe y 'all spend some extra time working. After practice, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, stay out a little bit longer. Listen, hell, me and Carson used to do that. And I'm not talking about when he first got there. from when he first got there, third year, fourth year, fifth year, we got in that extra timing just to know, boy, we can have a goddamn blindfold on, he can throw that ball and know exactly where I'm going to be at. Every time, on rhythm, regardless of a rush, regardless of whoever's in front of me, regardless of a defense.
23:38So when we were out there, it was like it was damn near 707. That's how sharp and on point and precise we were. it was like it was damn near like seven on seven but it but it but it takes time to build that
23:51Shannon Sharpe:relationship you just don't go you just don't go in like okay yeah we got it no it doesn't happen like that you've got to put time in y 'all need to sit in a meeting room okay tell me what you're thinking on this route tell me what you're thinking on this play right here that's how that's how i was with john i'm like okay tell me what you're thinking well if the guy's playing you like this expect it on the outside right but like this i'm gonna put it on your back shoulder or you know Like we were talking about when that guy's running and I can't beat him over the top, Ocho. He said, I'm going to back shoulder you.
24:19Shannon Sharpe:So just know that the ball is going to come and you're going to have to open your hips and catch it on your back shoulder. You know what's funny? I like that we talk about this too. And I want to talk about the way I view Jerry Judy and the type of receiver he is. They're having problems. They're having problems and issues offensively over there in Cleveland. but I've always seen Jerry Judy is not a problem but a solution to the problem especially with the skill set that he has as a receiver regardless of the drops regardless of of the issues he's may have had understanding what he can do when it comes to putting people in the goddamn blender being able to define the mismatches for him offensively knowing that he can beat he can beat whoever is out there at DB he can beat like let me say this again he can beat whoever there is out there at DB.
25:08He's a mismatch for damn anybody unless we talk about one of the top two better DBs in the NFL. His route run is tremendous. His ability to separate is tremendous. So I don't even understand where the issues are coming from. Especially seeing them with the animations and theatrics on the sideline. Yeah, it's goddamn easy. The fact that he's one of those few players, there's only a handful of them. I don't got to worry about you, here, I need you to just get open. Just do that for me. Just get open.
25:40Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you look at Judy as a number one? Yeah. Not even close. You don't think so? No, sir. Hey, listen, can I say something real quick? Yes. I know some, maybe people in the chat, maybe you might not be fond of him, but... No, hang on, I like him. I thought he should have been. I said when they came out, he came out that draft with CD, with Jetta with Wills. I said he should have been the number one receiver. Take it. So I, hey, and I was happy that he went, but Ocho. Hey, simply this, simply this. Being able to get open, beat man to man and create separation, that's all I need. Because the ones that are number twos can't do that consistently.
26:25The people that are number twos cannot do that consistently. Those all receivers that are number one receivers, my officer coordinator doesn't have to hide me. It's third down. We need you to get open. Man to man, I don't give a fuck. Oh, I almost curse. I don't care what it is. Get open. Jerry Judy can do that.
26:46Shannon Sharpe:He can do that. I'm just saying. You can name 20 receivers, 25 receivers better than that. I mean, he is number one on that team because you got to have, look, if you're talking about a number one because he has to be a number one on that team, but you'll go 25 deep receivers before you take him. So are we basing things off skill set or are you basing it off numbers? What are we talking about? His skills are not conducive. Look at his numbers in Denver. Look at his numbers now. That's what I just said. Are you talking about his skill set or are we talking about numbers? Well, everybody's the number one if you just look at skill set because everybody can get open.
27:20Shannon Sharpe:I can stack up a bunch of them. Yes, they can. No, I'm not – look, let me take that back. Everybody can't get open. But how many – if we were to have a draft right now, and you start taking receivers, how long before Judy gets selected? No. You throwing in different scenarios that I'm not talking about. I'm talking about. He's not a one, Ocho. Ocho, he's a two. He's a solid two. A solid two. He's not a one receiver. Um, what is. Let me ask you a question. Hold on. What is your criteria? What's your criteria for being a number one receiver? I'm curious. They build a game plan to stop you. Are they building game plans to stop Jerry Judy?
28:11Shannon Sharpe:You know damn well they're not building no game plan. They built a game plan to stop Ocho Cinco. They built game plans to stop Shannon Sharp. He is not a number one because you know why? Chad, if he was the number one, Ocho would have said, hell yeah. No, I'm, wait, hold on. Are they building, are the defensive building game plans to stop him? Yes or no? Hold on. So let's go. We got 32 NFL teams, right? I asked you a simple question. No, no, no, no. You can't do that. No, let me finish. You got 32 NFL teams. So every time every team plays that has a number one receiver, the defense is game playing to stop their number one?
28:48Absolutely not.
28:49Shannon Sharpe:When we come in. Absolutely not. Or when we come in on Wednesday, if he's circled as a guy that we got to stop, If we don't stop him, that's what a number one is. I'm not saying that every week he's going to get that, but we got to focus on him. If we don't stop him, it's going to be hard for us to beat him. It's only five receivers in the NFL that teams have to do that to. Ocho, he's not a number one. Ocho, I get he's from Miami. It's only five. Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, A.J. Brown, CeeDee Lamb, Pickens. It's only a few receivers. Nico Collins is a number one. Tyreek Hill is a number one.
29:29Shannon Sharpe:Brian Thomas Jr. is a number one. The guy at the Giants is a number one. Pickens, CD, is a number one. Terry McLaurin is a number one. The guys, they got two guys. Drake London is a number one. Stop this notion. Oh, don't do that. Come on, man. Come on. You're just throwing anybody's name out there. Are they number ones? Yes or no? Who? Are they number ones? Yes or no? Yeah. Oh, so hold on. So when you play the Atlanta Falcons, the focal point is stopping Drake London? Is Drake London the number one? Is that what you're telling me? Yes. He's their best receiver. Okay. He's not their best receiver?
30:08Shannon Sharpe:Okay. JSN. JSN is not the number one. Okay. Now we talking. No, no, no. He's not the number one. Now we talking. Now we talking. Now we talking. I like that. Now we talking. Come on, Ojo. Nah. I'm basing it off what you're able to do. I need skill set. How do we know he's had one year? So what about those years that he didn't do nothing?
30:42Shannon Sharpe:So all of a sudden, so he just acquired this skill set last year. The previous three years, he lost it and he's lost it now, but he had it last year. Nah. Mm-mm. I'll tell you what, you take Jared Judy or Devontae Smith. You take Jared Judy or Jalen Waddle. I'm just asking. Those are guys that play too. So would you take them, would you take Jared Judy or would you take Devontae Smith? Would you take Jared Judy or Jalen Waddle? Would you take him or you take Pierce? Would you take Pierce in Indy? or would you take Michael Pittman Jr. over Judy? Which one are you taking? I'm going to give you every chance to take Judy.
31:32So listen, you hear everything, all the comparison and the teams and how you're doing that, right? You see what you're doing? What? You talk about players that are all on competent offenses that get balls with quarterbacks. You see what you're doing? Let me ask you question. Are you trying? No, no, no. You try to compare the goddamn shit circus he got to fucking deal with at Cleveland and you're naming the Dolphins. You're naming Daniel Jones over there throwing the ball looking like goddamn Tom Brady reincarnated. Like, come on, man.
32:07Shannon Sharpe:What about Malik Neighbors? How was he? What was the Giants last year? Oh, he was gangster. Oh, what do you mean he was gangster? He was gangster. You mean that rummage sale that they had up at the Giants last year? That he had a hundred and something catches? Yeah. Yeah. They threw that thing to him like crazy.
32:33I'm just... Hey, listen. This is a great... I like this conversation. I like this conversation. But let me tell you something. Also, situations matter. Where you are matters. Quarterback matters. It's so many factors that come into play, especially when you start naming other receivers on other teams that are in totally different offenses with good quarterbacks and great offensive systems. That's all. So it's like it's almost unfair to have that conversation in comparison. But let's move on.
33:09Shannon Sharpe:Well, 90 % of the chat disagree with you. 90 % of the chat say he's not on one. Hey, 90 % of the chat can't cover me. 90 % – no matter of fact, hold on. 100 % of the chat can't cover me and tell me nothing about playing receiver. Maybe 15 years ago, you had a very compelling argument. Now –
33:32Shannon Sharpe:Jerry Judy leads the NFL in drops, and job percentage with qualified on-target passes dropped by a receiver. Judy has dropped almost 19%, 6 % higher than any other receiver.
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37:21Shannon Sharpe:Speaking of Hall of Fame, Terrell Suggs went on Johnny's Glory Days podcast and talked about Antonio Brown's upcoming Pro Football Hall of Fame candidacy. Suggs said, is he a first ballot? I wouldn't think so. The off the field stuff, they're going to shy away from that probably until it gets resolved. They let another murderer in the 90s. Hold on. They let another murderer in the 90s. I bet you if they could, they would have waited. Like, we might not want to put this guy in this fraternity just yet. A-Un? I don't think, I don't think, because you got to think about it. T.O. had, look, should A.B.
38:00Shannon Sharpe:be a, first of all, let me say this, should he be a first ballot based on what he did on T.O.? Ray Charles, you see that. Yes. Yes. But with T.O., they changed the bylaws. they said what you did off the field and what you did in the locker room or on the sidelines could be weighed against you. So you see how they did that, huh? You see how they were able to move the goalposts? You see how they were able to move the goalposts and having the power to control? Having the power to be able to control when and who not let in when the criteria for making the Pro Football Hall of Fame is conducted and based off what you do in between the goddamn lines.
38:42So now we're making it personal. They changed it. Yeah, they changed it. They changed it in their favor. So if you don't conduct yourselves in the manner in which we see fit away from the game of football, now we can chastise you for it. We can chastise you for it. I mean, listen, A.B. is a bona fide Hall of Famer, no matter what. I understand what he's done off the field. I even understand some of the stuff he's done on the field. But when it was time to go, when you talk about the story and you talk about some of the greatest NFL receivers that ever played this mother—I almost curse—greatest receivers that ever played this game, you can't tell a story without mentioning Antonio goddamn Brown.
39:24Shannon Sharpe:You're right. I think he's talking about OJ, but OJ was already in. That's the one thing about that fraternity. Once you're in, they can't take you out. You're there for perpetuity. so so i think he's talking about oj but oj was already in so there's nothing you can do now maybe uh at usc they removed some of his paraphernalia or they took him i don't know but in the nfl you once you go into that building you're in that building um i just think the thing is ocho i just think he's gonna have to wait they made to wait three rounds to if to is not a first ballot hall of famer the man had the third had the third most catches i think at the time of retirement, he had the second most receiving yards, over 1 ,000 yards.
40:07There's only been three men that's been a first-team All-Pro
40:10Shannon Sharpe:with three different teams. Deion Sanders, Ted Hendricks, and one T.O. So three men in the history of the game has been a first-team All-Pro with three different teams. T.O. led San Francisco in yards. He led Buffalo in yards. He led Philly in yards. He led Dallas in yards. He led Cincinnati. Five teams. Five. Yeah. You know what I don't like? I don't like the fact that they hold so much power. They control everything. Yeah. They're able to control everything. And you have players. You have players that played extremely well at a very high level, consistently for a very long time. And you have people that are able to control, you know.
40:57and and if it affects a lot of players that want to be a part of that fraternity so bad you want to be so you have to you have to pander to it you know you and you it's out of your control so if you you can't even almost you can't even be yourself you have to be something different you have to conform to what they want you to be like why you're playing the game in order to be a part of this over here because of what it means one of the greatest if not the greatest achievement as an NFL player.
41:27Shannon Sharpe:But, boy. And the thing is, I mean, I don't know if he's talking about OJ, but OJ was acquitted. Now, you might think he did it or he know who did it or he has something to do, but he went before 12 men and women and they said not guilty. After that, we can come up with conjecture and speculation and innuendo all we want. But at the end of the day, he went before a jury of his peers and they heard all the evidence and they said not guilty. But like I said, is A.B. a Hall of Famer? Yes. Do I think he's going to have a hard time getting in based on his history of his off-the-field activity and the way he conducted himself in Pittsburgh?
42:10Shannon Sharpe:Because you've got to realize, Ocho, when you go before the board, somebody, Ed Bouchette, would probably have to be his presenter. So he would have to get up there and say, okay, Antonio Brown had this many catches, had this, this, this, and this. But also, uh, uh, uh, uh. So you see how that goes? Now, some guys like, hey, Tom Brady guy gonna say, Peyton Manning, the guy just, ain't say a word, Peyton Manning. Sit back down. Tom Brady, gonna be the same thing, sit back down. Some guys, you know, offered Jerry Rice, sit back down. Emmitt Smith, you know, some things like that. But I think he's going to have a hard time getting in base because, like you said, it's 50 men and women and every man and woman knows A.B.'s story.
43:00Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. It is what it is. Jason Kelsey made some interesting comments about the difference between Shanahan offense and the West Coast offenses. Let's take a listen to what Kelsey had to say. I do think there's a reason while there has been a lot of great offensive coaches that have come from the Shanahan tree and the McVay trees, not a lot of those has transitioned to the Super Bowls. And I think that if you look at the largely the teams that have won Super Bowls over the last decade, most of them have been West Coast offenses that are pretty much grounded on a lot of the Bill Walsh and Andy Reid like lineages or pro style offenses.
43:37Shannon Sharpe:and I think part of that is like the scheme can be great but it's going to be really hard to win a Super Bowl with the coach out scheming at the end of the day most of the Super Bowls are won with quarterbacks and players on the field teams that operate on a drop back pass more tend to win Super Bowls more because drop back pass is more important in close games and at end of game situations and that's why I think the West Coast offense while it's not as you know as ridiculously interesting as some of the Shanahan principles and things, I think it probably translates when you have great players into more success at the end of the day.
44:14Hey, Unc, I like that a little bit. I like what he's saying. Obviously, Shanahan's system and the West Coast system, I think it all comes down to obviously having a combination of both, having a combination of great players with a great quarterback. Because if you have a great quarterback, regardless of the offense that you are running, whether it's Shanahan-like or if it's West Coast system, being able to manipulate that offense and knowing exactly what you're doing and having the right supporting cast hell anything is possible anything is possible it all comes down to the person at the helm who has the ball in his hands the most in his decision making that's what it comes down to at the end of the day scheme is great you know tactics is great the system you're running is great whether it be a shatterhand style offense or whether it be the west coast system offense.
45:03Hell, we've seen the West Coast system offense be successful. Think about how many teams that have a West Coast system that have won the Super Bowl.
45:15Shannon Sharpe:The thing, look, in Mike's system, the West Coast system, they really use the short passing game as their running game. The true West Coast system, the way Bill Walsh ran it, they never had a Terrell Davis. They never had a guy that could hit his head, that could run the ball like that. And if you go back and study you look at Green Bay Green Bay they had Dorsey Levins if you go back and look at the West Coast very few teams have had a guy that could run the ball like we had with TD and even though you go back and you look at the Broncos even after TD they had Mike Anderson and they had Ruben Drones and we had Clinton Portis and they had a number of guys they weren't TD and so if you look at now McCaffrey you see how he what they're able to scheme and how they're able to run the ball with McCaffrey.
46:07Shannon Sharpe:And still, they still throw a lot. We didn't throw the ball that much to the running backs. That was my job, Ed's job, and Rod's, foot's job, to do the leg work as far as the passing game. Yeah, we threw a couple screens, but we weren't a great screen team like the 49ers are with Kyle, like they are with Ms. Vey. We were not a good screen team. We were a toss-it, hand-it, weak-side zone team. Stop it if you can. And then we're going to play action off of that. We're going to run boot. We're going to run fullback slide, drag slide. We're going to run over. And we dare you to stop. You know what I do like, too, about the West Coast system, Monk?
46:46And for those that are in the chat, to give you a different perspective, especially when it comes to soccer, I want you to think about the Barcelona teams, you know, the early days of Messi, when obviously they kill you with 100 passes, you know, ticky-togger, ticky-togger, ticky-togger, ticky. that's what I think about the West Coast system, you know, being able to have 14, 15, 17, 18 play goddamn drives. And it's damn demoralizing for a defense because there's no way to stop you because you always able to find the mismatch based on whoever it is at the helm, controlling the ball and having the ball in their hands the most.
47:18And when it's done the right way, when it's done the right way, it's the most beautiful thing in the world. The most beautiful thing in the world to watch.
47:29Shannon Sharpe:but if you look at it you look at Andy Reid was in that system Andy Reid uh uh you look at every because he came from Mike Holmgren uh uh John Gruden all those guys uh uh Mariucci all those guys within the Holmgren who came up on that system Mike went directly to San Francisco and got that from Bill Walsh himself and so you see all the guys that came from Shanahan Kyle Shanahan and McVay, all those guys, LaFleur, O 'Connell, all those guys. And so you see a variation of it. They do a lot of – got their own – put their own spin on the no-cho, but that's what it is. But none of them has really had a guy that can run the football like a TD.
48:15Shannon Sharpe:And so that's the only thing that's missing from the West Coast that I was in compared to what we see now. They throw a lot more – they throw a wave of – the game has changed now. the game has changed now so they're going to throw the ball more than we ran it we ran more than we threw it what is Mr. Campbell in the Detroit Lions is that not west coast a little bit I don't know he's under parcells so he got most of his tutelage under parcells because they kill you with those damn crossing routes over and over they run a lot of shallows they run a lot of in cuts they do a lot of 3x1s a lot of bunches they do a lot of motion.
48:58But hey, think about the 49ers, huh? Think about the 49ers, especially that year they went to the Super Bowl when they faced the Chiefs. That is beautiful football in every sense of the word because they can start at their five-yard line and dink and dunk and dink and dunk and dink and dunk and screen play the goddamn McCaffrey. Chunk play the McCaffrey, you know, running off tackle, running through the A-gap. It's just a continuous, and when it's done the right way, when you have a quarterback that's making all the right decisions, and as great as Shanahan is, it's finding the mismatches and making sure you play to your player's strengths.
49:37Putting them in position, make those plays, it's a beautiful thing. I know you don't know anything about soccer, but I could just show you a clip. I could just show you a clip of Barcelona playing, and it's like the death of 1 ,000 passes, and they're just going back to back and they're almost lulling the defense to sleep. Lulling the defense to sleep until the right time. And it's just before you know it, the goddamn goal in the back of the net, you don't know what the hell happened.
50:07Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Tell me too much. Clint Portis. Clint Portis was unbelievable. He had way more talent. He had way more talent than TD. but he didn't take it as serious as TD. Clint Porter should be in the Hall of Fame. That boy would. Clint Porter's had 3 ,100 yards and 31 touchdowns in two seasons. Shit. Two seasons. Porter was nice, boy. Yes. Hey, y 'all used to run. Porter's want to do man. Y 'all used to run that stretch. That stretch with Porter. Yes. I think Peyton used to run that a lot too. I mean, we look like quarterback almost falling. Did he get that stretch out there? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Yes.
50:52Portis will hold it, hold it, hold it.
50:54Shannon Sharpe:And then we play pass off of it and throw the ball over your head. Portis will hold that stretch long and cut back across that green. Boy. Good night, Irene. And once Portis hit that second level, Unc. Oh, you're getting good luck getting him down. Good luck. If Portis would have taken it serious, Ocho, Do you know how many times on a Saturday night I sit up in my room at the bed check?
51:29Shannon Sharpe:I see who's leaving. If I see who's leaving, who do you think will see him leaving? Coach? That's why he traded him. Who's going to trade a running back? Think about it. He's offensive rookie of the year. He goes to the Pro Bowl. the guy that he beats out for a Pro Bowl spot is LaDainian Thomason. LaDainian Thomason has 1 ,600 rush yards and 100 catches in a season and Portis beat him out for the Pro Bowl. Mike traded him because of that.
52:07Shannon Sharpe:I have a question. He wouldn't want to work out. He was lazy? Hold on. Coming from a program like the University of Miami where everything is predicated. I don't know where he came from. I'm telling you what he was when he got to them. I'm telling you what he was with them. Wait, the way them boys were coming out to you? I just thought that that transition would have stuck, especially going into the league. Man, man, Portis came to the game one time, hung over to my offensive. Man, I can't play today. But get your ass out there and run that lick out and get your ass and do a contrast. They ain't got nothing to do with Mike.
52:43Shannon Sharpe:Mike ain't no portal looking out of your throat. I bet he had one hell of a game, too. A monster. A monster game. Man, Poe, I say, Poe, man, why you won't do right? He'll tell you. He'll tell you himself. I mean, I got it. I mean, I thought it was just going to be a matter of time. I didn't think he was going to trade him because I did all I could, you know, being a veteran presence there, trying to do all I could. Come on, Poe, man. Damn, just do right. hey matter of fact wait who was the replacement Polk come to practice and wouldn't even have his shoes tied and they couldn't tackle hey matter of fact you know what if coach made that decision to let Portis go that mean there had to be somebody behind him that they trusted or that maybe not as good but we can do just by they are who's that I think it was maybe maybe Ruben Drones I think it was I remember Ruben.
53:46I remember.
53:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. He ended up rushing for 1 ,200. Hey, what's the running back? Did you play with the running back? You didn't play with – Travis Henry played in Denver too, didn't he? No, I was long gone. Yeah, Trav was gone. I was gone when Trav got there. I don't know why I'm thinking about running backs. I wonder what Travis Henry doing. You know, he did some time, Ocho. No, I'm talking about the running back play for the Bills. Travis Henry? He did some time, Ocho. I didn't know that. Yeah. Damn.
54:22Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, one day after being claimed by the Buffalo Bill on waivers from the Steelers, cornerback Darius Slay has informed the Bills he will not be reporting to the team. Slay had been a healthy scratch in week 13 and seemingly fallen out of favor in Pittsburgh, so the two sides have mutually agreed to part ways. Adam Schefter reported that Slade wants to continue to play. Since Slade was released between the trade deadline and the end of the season, NFL rules require him clear waivers before he can become a free agent. That did not happen as the Buffalo Bill put in a claim on a 34-year-old. Slade does not want to play in Buffalo.
55:01Shannon Sharpe:However, Tom Pellicero reported that Slade has informed the Bills he will not report to the team and is contemplating retirement. The Bills are likely to let Slay manipulate his way out of the situation. When Anquan Bowden signed with the team before the 2017 season, when the playoff drive was broken, he then retired after two weeks before the season began. He later asked the Bills to release him so he could play elsewhere. Bean refused to grant Bowden's request and retained his rights. Ocho? Well, I think players don't want to go to the Bills. What's wrong with Buffalo? They got Josh Allen. Ain't nothing wrong with Josh Allen.
55:40Going to a team like that, you have a quarterback, but there's a chance you're going to be in contention. Defense is decent. You know, I would love to go play with Superman if I was a defensive back, but I think Slay might be chilling. Slay might want to make a move and go back to Philly. He might want to be able to, you know, have a chance to go back to Philly and help him out in some way, shape, form, or fashion. That might be it. Or maybe, you know, I just don't see and understand how much Slade loves the game. That has to be his move. I think it's a chess move. Obviously, we both have the same agent.
56:16I don't play anymore, but still, we both have the same agent in Drew Rosenhaus. And I know Drew is going to give him the right information that he needs if that's what he's trying to do. And Drew will do due diligence behind the scenes, behind closed doors, so Slade can get exactly what he wants. And I personally think if it was going to be a move, I think he would love to go back to Philly as opposed to Buffalo.
56:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, they know that. That's why they're not going to release him. You think they're going to play hardball? Yeah, for sure. For sure. That's why they claimed him. A lot of times people would claim players. They get released. They would claim players. So I want to make sure you don't go to a competitor, somebody that we might have to play. what if we release it what if we let him go then he goes to Philly we end up seeing Philly in the Super Bowl and now we got to deal with Slade now we got to deal with so no I don't no I don't because all they're going to be on the hook for is the last what whatever prorated of a 1.3 million dollars left because I think he signed an eight nine million dollar deal he got seven and a half of it up front so the rest of him so it's really nothing so yeah I agree with you I think that's what he wants.
57:28Shannon Sharpe:He wants to go back to Philly. I don't think he ever wanted to leave Philly. But, you know, they you know, Cooper DeGene, and Mitchell. You heard me? They went young. They did, of course. It's the nature of the business. I think Slay is still a very, very good quality corner. Very good quality corner. And having that veteran presence in that locker room, honestly, for me, I wouldn't want to leave either. I wouldn't want him to leave. But defense has been playing well. Hopefully. You can only play so many people. You got a quarterback on a big contract. You got two, both the receivers making big time money.
58:08Shannon Sharpe:Look at your offensive line. Look at how much Lane Johnson, Milata, Dickerson. Look how much money they're making. Hold on. He has a team-friendly contract, though. He didn't at first. They released it. That's why they released it. Yeah. And so now we got guys coming. And they had to re-sign Bond? Yeah, they did. you got Jalen Carter coming up. You got Mitchell coming up. You got Jordan Davis coming up. You know what I'm saying? You got Mitchell. You got DeJun. Also, you can't keep everybody. As good as you draft, I don't care how much money you got and how much you want to keep everybody. You're not going to be able to keep them.
58:46Shannon Sharpe:You're not going to be able to afford them. That's my dog. Hey, wait a minute. Well, maybe Slay might come back next week. He might come back next week because the Bills do have to play the Bengals.
58:58I wouldn't I personally I wouldn't want to come back a new team and have to deal with Chase and Higgins no you don't think so
59:09Shannon Sharpe:it's really cold up there that's football weather man not for not for no significant other having to sit outside they got they got sweets man please you don't like the sweets in Buffalo the sweets in Buffalo nice Nice. Man, I mean they try to pay money like that, Ocho. You don't think so? You know how much sweets cost? Not that much. But a sweet ain't number 10 ,000. Clearly you didn't have one. I had a sweet? No, you didn't. Not for no 10 ,000. Yeah, yeah. How much did it cost? Not even in Cincinnati can you get a sweet for 10 ,000. I'd probably say the cheapest suite would probably be a couple hundred thousand.
59:58Shannon Sharpe:What?
1:00:02Ain't no suite cost$100 ,000 now. Come on now.
1:00:05Shannon Sharpe:Boy, the suite, the closer you get to midfield, they cost a million dollars. What the hell you talking about? What kind of suite, y 'all? What? Man, what are you talking? Ocho, you do realize most suites, they come 12, 16, 18, 24, 30. That's what suites come in. You know what's funny, aunt? You know what's funny? Is I actually had a suite, and I don't remember how much it cost. But I guarantee you, because as fiscally responsible as I was, if it was anything like the numbers you said, I would have told my homeboys and family, y 'all got to sit y 'all ass in the stands when they get to November.
1:00:41Shannon Sharpe:How many, first of all, how many people fit the suite? Let me see. It's two rows at the front You got all the food Then you got the bar stool You have to pay for the food The food don't come with the sweet You have to pay for the food Everything comes I mean it's part of the package No it's not Yes it is You get the sweet And then you have to pay extra for the food Nah I got a discount I think that's what it was I got a discount You got to understand What's the average price? Let me tell you something Listen Listen, I'm... You can't get it for a game. No, you got to get it for the season. All eight games.
1:01:25You got to get it for all eight games. You got to understand, for me, they might have gave me a discount because I wasn't just a player. You hear me? I wasn't just a player for the Bengals. I was a part of the Brown family. You hear me? I was so integrated and a part of the family. I'm not saying I was adopted, but that was the point where I'm going to change my name to Chad Brown Johnson. Like that's the kind of relationship I had with ownership.
1:02:06I can't wait to hear these numbers.
1:02:17Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, closer to center field. Because I remember me and Ray had one. This was in 2000. And we were next to the owner's box. And we played a quarter of a million. Why? Damn! A quarter of a million? And the food did not come free. Oh, hell. Hey, hey. I like this. I like this topic right here, boy. Hold on. I like this topic. It's a good topic.
1:02:44Oh, this is a good topic.
1:02:48Shannon Sharpe:We got to put a call in to see how much... I'm calling right now. Hold on.
1:02:57Come on, answer the phone. Don't embarrass me in front of people. Come company.
1:03:08Oh, he embarrassing me in front of the company. God damn, TJ. Because...
1:03:19Damn, he answered the phone. Now you got me curious. A quarter of a million for a suite?
1:03:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, because we... Obviously, the owner's on the 50-yard line. The owner's on the 50-yard line. So we had the suite right next to him. so probably Ocho in between the 20s is where you're going to pay the most obviously you start getting the corner and then the end zone because you see what they call at the Super Bowl the Super Bowl would be 2-3 million dollars that's crazy and honestly at the Super Bowl those aren't the actual fans it's basically a corporate event Ocho that's all it is and the thing is Ocho you have to give your suite up. If the Super Bowl is in your state, let's just say for the sake of argument, you got a suite in Cincinnati.
1:04:10Shannon Sharpe:And the Super Bowl in Cincinnati, that's not your suite. That belongs to the NFL. Yeah, you're right. You're right. They got to make their money. They got to make their money. They not playing about that. Yeah. Hold on. Wait a minute. I mean, I... I'm just like... God damn. A quarter of a million. What? Oh, heck? Oh, yeah. Oh, Joe, it's expensive. man. But look, most of the time you know who had them. The suites, the quarterbacks, the really high dollar guys. Yeah, the big boys. And you know, you don't want your wives, you know. Because when I was there, the only guy that had a suite was John.
1:04:49Shannon Sharpe:When I was in Denver, the only guy that had a suite was John. Man, everybody didn't play that high. I mean, that's not high. Everybody had to sit outside to have family members? Yeah. Because it wasn't nobody. Bro, he was the only one making big money like that, man. You came before I don't pay no$100 ,000. You got to realize$100 ,000 in the 90s, Ocho, was a lot of damn money. Yeah. I mean, it's a lot of money now. But I'm saying back then, when you have people not making$100 ,000, my first two years, I didn't even make$100 ,000 a year. I made$63 and$73. Damn. So, hey, give me them$125 tickets.
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