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28:20That being said, it's an eval, an evaluation process every single day. And the hardest thing to do, Ocho, and Joe, you know this, is to keep it here and not do this. I can't let my emotions do that either. Hello. Because guy goes out there and snakes it up. He throws five interceptions with ten incompletions. Ah, this guy can't play. He comes back the next day, Ocho. Now he throws six touchdowns with three incompletions. Oh, yeah, this is our starter. You see how it's done change? Yeah. Hey, we know sports. that thing is, hey, it's going to be helter-skelter. But as it's being helter-skelter, you need to be even keel.

29:04Your process needs to be even keel. So I don't envy that situation because the expectations, I think Jimmy and Dee Haslam, who own the Cleveland Browns, I've said this before, the Browns have some of the best, most loyal fans because ain't no way in hell I'm sticking around for what they've thrown out there on the field for the last three decades. Ain't no way in hell. I'll just say, oh, excuse me, since 1999. Yeah. Ain't no way. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. That's why you got so many people rooting for Shadour, bro. They just want some type of surgeons for the Browns, bro. They just want something to cheer for, hell.

29:48You know, I know we talk about the Browns making it to the playoffs in that division, man, it's going to be tough as all. Man, go 500. Huh? You talking about five, you talking about the playoffs, Joe. Damn, can they go 500? Can they win? Well, you can't go 500 anymore. Can they be nine and eight? I'm saying, you know, it's a lot of teams that come into the season with expectations, talking about whether it's a championship, this, that, and the third. Man, come on, man. Hey, Joe, that's not realistic, Joe. If you look at the landscape of the NFL, Uncle Joe, to be honest with you, you probably got 18.

30:21You talk about maybe you got eight teams that are constructed that have a realistic chance. Realistic. Realistic. Realistic chance of not only making the playoffs, but hoisting that goddamn Embardy trophy. I mean, being realistic based on how they're structured, what you have on offense, what you have on. You definitely got to have a defense. You definitely got to have a defense. You got to have an adequate offense that can compete week in and week out. I will say this. Expectations leads to disappointment. We've all been there. We done went out there. Oh, yeah. I done took it. Got this nice. I brought flowers.

30:57I brought flowers before I came. Because that's what gentlemen, that's what I saw in the movie. That's what they do. Brought me some flowers, Ocho. Yes, sir. Ocho. Went and got that nice meal. You know what I'm saying? I'm young. I can stay up late. Hey, let's go to the movie. I get to the dope.

31:17I had a great time.

31:23I thought I was like, I thought I was going to get you want to come in. That's what I was hoping for. Damn, you talking about a kid? I don't know what I was going to get inside. You see what happened? I had expectations based on what I had done. Yes, sir. Hello. That it was going to pay off in something in the end. Yeah. People think, oh, we had a great training camp. Everybody came in and everybody. I don't guarantee you're going to win. You're going to win a whole bunch of names. up games. Yeah, that don't mean nothing, boy. That don't mean... Hey, another thing that don't mean nothing is the preseason, too.

31:57Absolutely not. I done seen... I done seen... I done seen many a team go forward on the preseason and lay an egg in the regular season. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Absolutely. Hold on. So y 'all telling me if a dude come out, let's say he ain't no quarterback, right? But he plays one of the elite positions. And you say he come out in the preseason, he ball. You mean tell me that ain't going to put no stain on the coach's brain? Like, man, I might need to find some room for some playing time. Yes, yes, yes. But see, now, you see what you've done, Joe? You put expectations on him. You see what you just did, Joe?

32:28Yeah. You said that man done put a state in your mind that he can do this. Now you don't put expectations. Now, we didn't meet that expectation, then what? What we got on you, Joe? Unc, unc. Well, hold on, unc. Hey, hold on, unc, and Joe. Joe, you got to think about it now. We talk about preseason. Let's say not a quarterback. Let's say skill position, right? You got to receive out there cutting up in the preseason. Victor Cruz was the guy that showed his... Oh, hey, hey, hey. And he cut a fool during the rest of the season, too. He was that boy. But this is the thing, Joe. You got to remember, preseason, you're going against two, three, and fours now.

33:01That's not what you're going to see on Sunday. 1 ,100 guys going to get cut, Joe. Damn. 1 ,100 guys going to get cut. A thousand, my bad. So they're going to go from 80 to... They probably got 90 guys in camp at some point in time. You got to whittle that thing down and keep whittling it down, whittling it down. You might have had a hundred guys in camp. You're going to whittle that thing down and whittle it down and whittle it down, whittle it down, whittle it down. With that being said, I think the thing is, is that you hope, I mean, it could look, Ochoa, correct me if I'm wrong. I think with the exception of maybe five guys, coaches and staff know who their guys are going to be going into the season.

33:42You'll get a big crew. You'll get a Rod Smith. you'll get a Terrell Davis, but for the most part, you have a general idea of your starters and your backups. Now, some guys, sometimes guys are going to flash. It's going to be a game. You're like, oh, I got to give this guy, especially if he does it early, because now I got to give him an extra look, Joe. Yeah. I got to make, okay, let me see what he's like with John. Let me see what he's like with the number one defense. Let me see what he's like behind the number one punt return team. So now I can evaluate him a little better. Because if I get him constantly going against twos and threes and going against some guys that potentially might not make the team, I don't know if I'm doing a fair evaluation of him and what he's capable of doing.

34:28Because I know a lot of the guys that he's making plays against, they're not going to be in the league. So now I've got to give him a better look. I've got to give him a more extensive look. Right.

34:42Ocho, you said something earlier that, like, when the guys in camp, they're looking at plays and then you see these guys and you know the guy can't tee off on you. But that guy across the field, he can tee off on your ass. And he's trying to make a club. He's trying to make the club. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

35:03So, he's looking at you as an opportunity for him to make the club. See, in your own team, guys ain't going to hit you like that. They're going to walk up. Every once in a while, you get a guy, you know, and then you're going to get a lot of pushing and shoving. And so I don't do that anymore. Somebody's going to throw the ball and hit you in the head with it, hit you in the back. But across that, when he don't know what you're going to do and you don't know what he's going to do, yeah, he got something for you. It's a different ball game. You got to play honest, Joe. Ain't no cheat then. You got to play honest.

35:30Hey, I understand that. But the many years that I've played in the NBA, it's probably been about three to four times, Uncle Ocho, to where when we invite Caps to training camp and you be like, man, you know, coach may tell you, well, look, Buddy and them ain't going to make the team, but we need some bodies for camp. But it's been a few times, man, I'm talking about about three, four times to where dudes who weren't supposed to make the team, hell, they made the team just by being relentless, working hard, and just out there doing whatever. All the threes. Huh? Austin Reeves. Yeah, he one of them.

36:08He one of them, bro. You know what I mean? And I just feel like I know in football, it's probably a little different, obviously. But, man, I've seen guys who weren't supposed to be that man just have such a high work ethic to where they just wouldn't take no, bro. It's like, if you cut this man, I remember one time here in Atlanta, man, we had a guy named Ivan Johnson. I don't know if y 'all ever heard of him. I'm not going to say, was he a forward? Yeah, he like a power forward. But he probably won by about 6 '4", 6 '5", Ocho. He played overseas. He got banned from overseas. And he came here to the Atlanta Hawks, bro.

36:42He tried out 5 '10". Got a mouthful of goals, Ocho. I'm talking about permanent. Permanent. You hear me? Yeah. Man. Yeah. They didn't think dude was going to make the team. But when I tell you, Ocho, this dude was so relentless in practice, in training camp. Like, it wasn't a way you could get rid of him, bro. I'm like, defensively, he was causing havoc. He in passing lanes. You know what I mean? Just doing anything and everything. Like, if you tell a guy like that no, it's like, damn, bro, that's messed up. So, I don't know how it works. Huh? James Harrison got cut like three, four times. Oh, James Harrison did?

37:14Yeah. I didn't know that. The Ravens cut him. The Steelers cut him. Steelers cut him again. I think the Ravens cut him again. Steelers cut him again. That's why his ass worked so hard. Yep. Yep. Alex Caruso, Rod Smith was an undrafted free agent. Johnny Randall was an undrafted free agent. A defensive tackle weighed 235 pounds, Joe. Damn. Had to put waste in his pocket. And cut ass every Sunday. Oh, he tore their ass up. And talked the whole game. I love hearing stories like that. Oh, man, Johnny Randall. Hey, because Johnny was in my draft. Yeah. Ocho, you talk about, you thought you, this joker talked the whole, I don't even know how he had breath to get off the rock.

38:07He talked the whole game. Talking trash. Yeah. Talking trash. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Big time. I didn't see the clip. Oh, I played against him in what? I played against him in 90. Played against him in 91. Played against him in 93. Played against him in 96. 99

38:31Oh my god Like damn bro Yeah he was like Hey Joe what happened to young bull with the goal He made the team What did you mean what happened That man made the team Ocho he played for the Hawks For like two about two and a half Maybe three years bro Yeah Kurt Warner was an undrafted free agent Yeah Kurt came from Canada too Uh he Arena League. I will burn Starmers. Yeah, Arena League. Yeah, not Canada. Arena League, yep. But sometimes, sometimes guys just need an opportunity. Yeah. And sometimes it might not be where you are that gives you that opportunity. Right. But you got it. I mean, look. And James, like, because you look at James.

39:17James is 5 '11". Yeah. We don't need very many 5 '11 outside linebackers, Joe. Mm-mm. That boy getting it done. It is a, hey, he would not take no for an answer. That's what you want. Them type of dudes you want on your team. He would not take no for an answer. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. And turned himself into a defensive player of the year. Damn. One of the great Steelers linebackers. We know Steelers, if they're long for anything, they're known for linebacker play. From Jack Hamm to Lambert to Mike Merriweather to Gildon to Peasy. they've had them. Woodley, they got them. Andy Russell, you name it, they're known for linebackers.

40:01And he fit that mold.

40:05Intimidating. Scary. He fit right in with the 70 Steelers. 70 Steelers, 80 Steelers. James Harris would have been perfect. He'd have been more perfect for the Raiders. Oh, yeah. Them hard-working dudes, bro, they're going to be the talented dude any day, bro. They going to beat him any day. I don't care what you're doing. Because you don't have one signature thing that he can rely on. It wasn't like he was running 4-4. Yeah. It wasn't like he was 6-4. Yeah. He was undersized. He said, I got to be relentless. Yeah. And his leverage, he used his leverage. Because tackles are high tall. 6-4, 6-6-4 to 6-8.

40:46Yeah. So guess what? They punch. He up underneath you. You got to basically punch down. and guess what he don't fight and once somebody as strong as that once somebody strong and Debo get up underneath you you might as well cancel Christmas it's a wrap but that's what you have to do though guys that's why I mean sometimes when you have success Joe you know look you have success in college and people just automatically when he was so good in college everybody was good in college that's how they got to the league the hell Yeah, everybody was good and how the guys got to college cuz it was good in high school.

41:28Yes, sir But everybody can't make it There's only okay, let's just say for the sake of army. You got 120 guys in college How many they graduate a minute they graduate a million damn kids boys young men every year? Okay of those million how many going to get an opportunity to play in the NFL? They only got 53 damn spots. Right. So what? I just need one. I knew one of the spots was for me. I don't know about everybody else. I don't need but one. Hello. I don't know about everybody else. I don't know what they think is what they thought process was. Oh, Joe. Joe, I don't know what they were thinking.

42:10Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I know what I was thinking. Yeah. And I know I wasn't going back to Glenville. That's what I knew. Hey, I'll win you on that one. Hey. Oh, man. Mike Garofalo spoke today on the Brails Battle quarterback, and he's been hearing about quarterback battle one. It's going to be Deshaun Watson, which is amazing because owner Jimmy Haslam said it before they took a swing and missed that Deshaun and made it seem like it was over.

42:44Look, he's like, I got to get, Joe, I gotta get something Joe I've given this man The most guaranteed money In NFL history I gave him a contract So check this out Joe When they signed Deshaun Deshaun He had not even started On the guaranteed contract He had just signed an extension He hadn't started that yet Cleveland gave him An extension on top of the extension Damn Damn. So he had like one, I think he had$141 million. Please say, you know what? We like you. We really like you. Let's go and give you another 89 on top of that. That's because they had been struggling, bro. Yeah, you got to understand how long they've been struggling, though, Joe.

43:36To be able to do that, to be that desperate for a quarterback that was playing extremely well in Houston, you know, and he was able to do it, but not very many pieces around him. He just had D-Hop. Yeah, he went crazy, Joe. So I understand why the Browns, who've been looking for a quarterback since Bernie Kosar, someone that could steer that ship and keep him afloat. That's why they went at him like that with all that money. And you know what? We're going to guarantee it. To make sure they could get him. Man, listen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to keep it 100, Uncle Ocho. So it ain't worked out. Yeah.

44:13It ain't worked out. No, it hasn't. Look, everybody knows that. Jimmy and D. Knows that. Deshaun knows that. It has not worked out. I guess he said, you know what? The likelihood of me remaining here. He said, I mean, I heard him talk the other day. He said, yeah, I'd love to sign another contract with the Cleveland Browns. I don't know if that's going to happen. I think he's thinking if I play well, I might not sign a contract here. But. Yeah. Exactly. That's what I tell people all the time. Hold on. the team that you play on aren't the only team that play their players hello sometimes i don't know you've seen it guys get so caught up man bro there's 28 other damn teams they pay money yeah go ahead i got i got a question too let's say let's say if things don't work out now i don't mean to be looking ahead not saying that he's gonna have a bad season i'm not sure what's gonna happen but obviously this i'm this very well could be deshaun watson's last season in cleveland what I have a feeling should do.

45:12It will take over for the foreseeable future. And you look at the landscape of the NFL in general and teams that still need a quarterback. If Deshaun Watson does play well this year, what teams are out there that would need a quarterback? What's playing well, though, Ojo? I mean, playing well enough to know we're going to take a chance on him because what we got ain't him. So, okay, let me see. You say he throws somewhere between 3 ,500 and 4 ,000 yards. he has somewhere between say 22 and 30 touchdowns yeah somebody will play him yeah absolutely but I'm just saying but think about what you just said that's a no brainer right it's a no brainer but what team Cleveland might be Ocho I'll give you a prime example look at Tua they paid Tua and I just read the report that Tua looked like he's going to be the starter in Atlanta Yeah, I saw that too.

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50:03Aaron Donald worked out for the Los Angeles Rams in training camp today. According to Adam Schefter, Donald worked out in a football helmet. He did not wear pads during the workout, but used Ram team equipment and did the workout at their facility. That required the Rams to report it to the NFL. Here's McVay on AD tried out today. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. I couldn't help but know it. Like right before we started, so I hope you're even aware of this, like the NFL transaction wire had Aaron Donald working out with the Rams today, which I guess. Did it come across as a tryout? It did come across as a tryout.

50:36Best tryout that we've ever had. Okay. You think he could make the team? Phenomenal. I think he could make the team. The kid's got a shot. Yeah. That was honestly our way of being able to get a workout with him within the, you know, parameters of what's necessary. But Giff Smith said it's the greatest tryout he's ever had. Great.

50:58hey I like it I like it there's a window of opportunity for the Rams there's a window of opportunity for Stafford to get him one more ring including McVay listen Aaron Donald ain't no fool he ain't no fool if there's an opportunity for me to get another ring with an addition of Miles Garrett who's now over here with that offense they have with Puka Devontae and Brother Williams at running back this is it this is it I don't know who wants to deal with that every Sunday man and grab me 30 million while I'm at that Ocho oh come on man stop man stop and honestly it's almost unfair what you mean why you say that it's almost unfair you got you got Miles Garrett on the end you got Aaron Donald I mean man come on man stop playing man what's that the other DNA we had him on Young I think it's Young We had him on, Ocho.

51:55Remember, he's from Georgia, worked in a supermarket, got picked up.

52:04I forgot his name. I think his last name is Young. I know what. Byron Young? Oh, Byron Young. That sounds about right. Hey, Aaron Donald ain't fooling me, Uncle Ocho. His ass coming back. Talk to me, Joe. He coming back. And, man, you ain't doing that. Hey, Joe. Hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course you're coming back, Joe. Ain't showing up the facility for nothing with no hammered on. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Come on, man. You know, hey, hey, hey, hey. I ain't going to lie. It would entice me to hell if I had Miles Garrett over there. You know what I mean? I'm like, what? I can come back.

52:40What? Man, ain't nobody going to see them rims. The thing is that look. I think it's going to take him a little while because you got to realize he's been away from the game for a minute. So it's gonna take him some time for his body senses to see where that wham block coming from See what I pulled that scoop. Yeah, all that stuff Oh, you cut you because yeah, when you get away from it, your spidey senses don't tingle like they once did He would know a that gap that guard open up. He know that way I'm coming He know that tight end coming to that short mode that crack motion He know when they would try to scoop it when they would try to post it.

53:17He knew all that He knew to get skinny. Nope, nope, nope, nope. And the one thing I will say about him, he never give you the whole man. You're only getting half the man. He's like a wide receiver. Hey, if you watch him at a D tackle, his hands are unbelievable. Yeah, his hands and his feet. And the funny thing, too, this might be a good thing, too, Uncle Joe, for Aaron McDonald. Now, I know we say him not having the spidey senses, him taking some time off, but think about what it's been able to do for his body too. Allowing his body to heal. Allowing his body to recover. Coming in camp, fresh camp legs.

53:57No wear and tear on his body. Even though he might be a year or maybe two years old, I'm not sure how much time he had off. But he might be about 33. Go ahead, Joe. And just to kind of piggyback what Ocho was saying, Ocho, you're right. You think about it, man. He's been out for so long. Them wounds are healed up. You know, he feeling good. You know what I mean? He probably in the right mental space. You know, you ain't been getting your ass beat up. You know what I mean? It's a little different, bro. It's different. Hey, think about it. Yeah. Because if you've been out for two years and you done healed up, but you're still working out, staying in shape, man, you're going to always, you're going to always have that itch to come back and play.

54:37You know what I mean? Because he didn't leave the game with no significant injuries. You know what I mean? No, no, no, no. He didn't. Nah. Hell no. That man coming back. What? Yeah, that's dope. That's dope. I mean, listen, I'm happy for Aaron Donald. I'm happy for the Rams. Obviously, the opportunity that they have at their disposal, the window of opportunity, they have to maximize it. They got to maximize it on their neck because it won't be there long. Even just the addition of Aaron Donald in general, along with Miles Garrett, man, come on, man. That's like you're playing Madden, Joe. That's like you're playing Madden.

55:15You know, you're getting your superstars on one team on ultimate team. That's cheating, though, Joe.

55:23Hey, listen, you can't run the ball up the middle. You drop back the throw, you got to deal with Miles Garrett. You run the ball, you got to deal with Aaron Donald clogging up the hole. You got a secondary that's good. He's 35, aren't you? He played well last year. He's 35. He turned 35. Okay, listen, a 35 Aaron Donald is still top three in the NFL, along with Chris Jones and brother Jeffrey Simmons. Oh, yeah, for sure. And the thing, look, I know some guards I hate, like, man, please stay retired.

56:01Where'd you really try to deal with you? Like I say, Byron Young, they got Fisk. Oh, yeah, Fitz from Florida State, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He can play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He can play. Yeah, he nice. They got a linebacker. I forget his name. Stockton? Is it?

56:25Whew. Boy, he. Boy, they. They got something on their head. They got something on their head. That's what, you know, the guy's like, you know what? But the thing I said now, here's the thing, Ocho. He said I walked away because I didn't have the desire to train like I trained year-round. You think he can summons it up for eight months? Absolutely. Absolutely. Because, listen, someone that's retired for two years, he wouldn't summon it up unless he knew the opportunity made sense. It got to make sense, huh? Not the money part. having to get meetings, waking up early in the morning, coming to practice, cold tub, hot tub, rehab, just having to do that after you've done it all these years, there's nothing else for you to accomplish.

57:17You arguably might be one of the best defensive players of all time along with Lawrence Taylor. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so what are you coming back for? Because he understands that window of opportunity is there for another ring. to add more onto a legacy that's already cemented. Whether they lose or whether they win, it's not going to change anything about how great Aaron Donald has been since he's entered the league. It only heightens it. He's coming in to win, though. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, for me, it doesn't change anything for me. I think he's, I think he, I think me personally, I think he's one of the three or four greatest defensive players.

58:02where you want to rank him. Obviously, for me, it's LT is the greatest defensive player that I believe has ever played the game. I like Reggie. Time was, you know, you don't get very many corners that get mentioned as the greatest ever. But I think you have to put time in there for what he was able to do and how he did it. He made you think about him because he wasn't worried about you.

58:32Amen. Anytime you shut off, anytime you cut off a whole side of a damn field, you're a bad boy. You're a bad boy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, AD is, like I said, man, he's phenomenal. He's something special to watch. You watch him, and you're like, wow, yeah. But I think it's just unfair because, like I said, I played an era where the defense, they'd knock hell out you. I could just imagine if they threw the ball back then like they threw it now with the rules the way they are, the way they can knock the hell out the quarterback. Yeah. A lot of these quarterbacks would be out, wouldn't they? What? Absolutely.

59:18Boy, they'd be the hell out of the quarterback. Absolutely. They would knock the quarterback. Boy, they'd knock the quarterback out. I think now with the rules changing that you can't land on the guy when you sack him, that helps a lot too. Yeah, you can't put your weight on it. You can't, basically you can only put and you can't hit it with a cross. Man, you know how many times they put their face mask or their helmet in that quarterback's back or up under his chin? Yeah, chin. Not no more. Go back and look at the hit Wilbur Marshall put on Eric Hipple. Flatlining. If somebody hit a quarterback like that today how many games you think?

59:57Google that right quick. And don't you tell me, Joe, how many games you think the player would get suspended? If he had a quarterback in today's game, like Wilbur Marshall hit Eric Hipple. Wilbur Marshall.

1:00:21Wilbur Marshall. I will tell you.

1:00:31and he was out before he hit the dirt

1:00:39and he was out of the pocket oh yeah the one on Joe Ferguson the one on Joe Ferguson was that Ferguson or Hipple I think hold on 1985 yeah that was Ferguson okay was Ferguson playing with the Lions Lions yeah Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know he's playing with the Lions. I'm looking at it now. Play action. Oh, get out of that thing. Okay, okay. Ooh. Oh, no. How many games do you think he gets suspended? Oh, he's asleep. That might be the whole deal. Hey, he put his helmet on his chin, so I know his helmet hit him. Oh, yeah. Yes. That's going to put you to sleep. Hey, I don't think that's a suspension for indefinite.

1:01:29That's the whole season. Hey, like that, that's the whole season. Hey, go back. The reason why they tried to unabated to the quarterback, go look at Bruce Smith. He knocked Boomer Sison out. He jumped outside and then it blew. He did? Go look at it. Go look at what Bruce Smith did to Boomer Sison. Knocked him out. Hold on, let me find that one. That's why they have unabated to the quarterback now. Bruce Smith. Who was it he hit? Bruce Smith hit Bruma Siser. It's on here.

1:02:07Oh, they playing Buffalo too. Oh my goodness. What is the left tackle doing? Who is that? I don't know what he was doing. But that's the way they used to play the game back then, Joe. Oh, yeah. If you can hunt like that, there ain't no penalties. Hell yeah, I'm hunting like that too. You can't hunt like that nowadays, Ojo. Hey, um, hey, Bruce Smith got such a good jump on the ball on that play, the left tackle didn't even get a chance to move. Hey, boom ain't have a chance right there, boy. You see what Turkey and Turkey Jones, look up Turkey Jones, how he slammed Terry Bradshaw. If you slam the quarterback like this today in the pocket.

1:02:53Oh, I remember that play. Or Charles Martin, he did the same thing to Jim McMahon. Jim McMahon threw the ball. Charles Martin grabbed him. Bop. Oh, yeah. You drop somebody on their head like that 9-8 boys over with. That's the way they used to hit. Can you imagine? and people are like, oh, look at the numbers that these quarterbacks threw before in the 80s. Yeah. Now you see why they threw for those numbers. You think those guys going to be throwing for like 500, 400, 500 yards? Hell, no siree, buddy. No siree. No siree. Yeah. The game is different now, Uncle Joe. It's different. And it allows for, I like to say inflation.

1:03:41It allows for inflation. The numbers are inflated based on, you know, defense are handicapped now based on the rules. So there's really not much. No, they can't. That's why the numbers are there. That's why I say, oh, these guys are so much better than Elway and so much better than Marino. Yeah, let Marino have these rules. Let Elway and them have these rules that these quarterbacks operate under where the defense is receiving. You can't hit the quarterback. You can only hit the quarterback in his numbers. And you can't hit him below his name. man look I'm glad they changed the rules it's for the better because you know better we know you know certain a number of hits they add up over the accumulation they add up guys we understand that we're not we're not I'm not begrudging them but I want you guys to take a look and see what the other guys had to endure right you just could close line a guy you could head slap a guy Yeah, everything goes.

1:04:43It was basically the wild, wild west. It really was. They put a bounty on you. They had to stop it because they put a bounty on you. Buddy Ryan put a bounty on the kicker.

1:04:59I think they sacked Troy like 10 times. The Eagles did. Boy, the Eagles had a hellacious defense back then. Oh, yeah, Buddy was wild. No, they had defenses back then because everybody wanted to be able to run the football and play defense behind it. Yeah. But I still ain't for Gabe, Buddy. Buddy was the only head coach that came to Savannah State and worked me out. He told me to my face. He said, we're going to take about four or five receivers in the draft. He said, we're going to put them in a bag. We're gonna shake them up and whoever she comes out. That's who's gonna play and Chad go back and look and see how many receivers they took in 1990 and not one of was named Shannon sharp

1:05:53He told me to That is the Rex tell me all the time said my dad said the number one mistake he made was not taking you I Ain't say I should have been a first-round pick but you mean to tell me I could you took freaky Fred I think they took Freaky Fred Barnett. They took Mike Bellamy. They took another Calvin Williams. They took three receivers. Hey, I got a question. Do you think they took them receivers? Do you think you didn't go as high because you went to Savannah State? Yes. You didn't go to an FBS? That's probably.

1:06:32Yeah. Yeah. You did. I did. But Joe the thing is that when I went to the bowl games I showed out yeah yeah I showed out the guy couldn't do nothing with me showed up there chills up to my chills what you doing that bowl game see I freaked him into one-on-one when we got practice see that's what I tried that's why I got freaky with it I got jiggy with it sure I got jiggy with it all that press coverage

1:07:12Get out my way.

1:07:35day. AJ Brown says he dislocated his thumb in Monday's practice. It's tough. I tried to get back into the flow state zone really quickly because obviously you're going through some pain. The game is what it is. You're going to get bumps and bruises and you have to keep going. I know it's practice, but I'm not coming out of practice. Thumb out of place. You keep going. AJ dislocated the same thumb back at Ole Miss in 2018. Ocho, what is the biggest concern about a receiver dislocating his thumb? Nah, none at all, especially with dislocated thumb. He'll be fine, Uncle Joe. You just tape from the wrist, from the palm, right around the thumb, and you'll be fine.

1:08:16Take some of that pressure off. They put a little pad in right here in between the thumb area, right on the palm. He'll be fine. He'll be fine. He'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, Joe. From catching the ball and people slapping, sticking their hand in there. That's a nagging injury that you're going to never hear. If they didn't report it, I would have told that because I'm going to slap it. If I'm a DB fan, what do I do with Joe? Joe, you good, Joe. I done played with dislocated pinkies on both hands, Joe. All I did was they taped underneath, taped it together. Once they taped my palm and the finger, I put my glove on and I taped the two fingers.

1:08:54He'll be fine. Oh, you dislocated your thumb or your... Both my pinkies at the same time. You see them things? That thumb make a big difference, bro. Hey, just think about it. If you cut that thumb off, you out there trying to catch a ball. Come on, man. Come on, Ocho. That thumb make a big difference. I dislocated by it, Joe. It hurt. Because if you don't catch that ball right, hey, Joe, Ocho, you know sometimes you catch a ball wrong and it hurt anyway. Yeah, yeah. And your fingers are good. But what I did is I used to wear a thumb guard because mine would slip out easy. So I put a thumb guard to keep it from being bent back or keep it from going like that.

1:09:36But like you said, Ocho, some people do tape it. A lot of D linemen tape their hands like that and get boxers' fists and stuff like that because they're constantly shooting and you get your thumbs bent. But that is painful. Yeah, it is. It is. Man. It is. Woo. Yeah. One thing about it is ain't nobody sitting out for no dislocated. Nah. That ain't happening. Nah. I ain't saying they going to sit out. But it's going to linger a little bit. Hey, man. You don't understand how much you need all your fingers and your toes until one of them get hurt. Hey. Until one of them hurt. You ain't going to tell me nothing.

1:10:14Hey. Joe, I done been there, Joe. This was my right. I had the thumb guard. I ain't got this. It's still in my locker. Well, it's back in Denver. But the thing is, you know what's so hard, Joe Ocho? And this is what I always was afraid of, Joe Ocho, is that going to a new team and get hurt. Dang it. Yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:10:42I ain't getting a word, you know. You know, I keep you on standby, Joe Ocho. Hey, what that is? Hey, Unc, I thought you had on some purple and gold. Hey, Unc, you played your maker? No, hell no. The Wonder Twins. Y 'all remember the Wonder Twins? Activate. Form a glacier. I do. Form a polar bear. Yeah. Nah, I don't remember that. You don't remember the Wonder Twins? Ocho one watching cartoon. I ain't see that one. Chad, I know y 'all remember the Wonder Twins. I thought Unc was Omega, Joe. Nah, nah, nah. Unc don't take me. He don't take me for that type. Shoot, man. Unc number one on this show.

1:11:27What you mean he don't take you for that type? Oh, you saying he number one? Oh, nah, nah, nah. He number one for damn sure. Nah, nah, nah. Don't do that, Joe. Don't do that. Don't flip with me, Joe. Yeah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. He for sure number one. Nah. I just don't see him doing all that wild stuff. You know what I'm saying? We had a great turnout. We had a great turnout. I mean, you know what I'm saying? I'll hook you up. Flip you up. Hook you up to a place. Great food. Great atmosphere. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I ain't going to lie to you. I ain't want to pig out, but them group of bites was jumping.

1:11:56Hey, where y 'all went somewhere without me? My bad. I ain't mean to talk to you. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. Hey, where y 'all went somewhere without me? Hey, Joe, they calling me Creflo No Dollars in the chat.

1:12:14Hey, yeah, y 'all know. I passed the TD fakes. Look at it. Look at it. Yeah. No, but I think that's the frustrating part about AJ is that he got what he wanted. He wanted to be. He wanted out of Philly. Good, bad, indifferent. You can say whatever you want. Hey, it worked out well. He went to Pro Bowl, went to two Super Bowls. They won one. But I told Ocho this. I said, Ocho, if you win the Super Bowl and you go to Pro Bowls and you still not happy, Ocho, it's just time to leave. Yeah, it was time to change. Joe, that's like, okay, Joe, you become an all-star. You go, you win the championship.

1:13:00You go to two NBA finals. You win one. Yeah. And you're like, man, it ain't what I thought it was. I thought it was going to be. Yeah, yeah. That's a slap in somebody's face. Yeah, I know it. You know what he want. on. He want that ball. That's one of the things he complained about a lot, not being able to get the ball as much as he likes. Because you know why, Ocho? Tell him why. You see what Puka doing. You see what JSC is doing. You see what Chase is doing. Wait, hey, hold on. You do remember when we talk about the top five receivers in the league, A.J. Brown name was always in that conversation, right?

1:13:35His name is no longer in that conversation despite the Eagles winning. You know, I mean, listen, I know it's supposed to be a team sport. Yes, it is that. But also, along with it being a team sport, you still want to remain one of the best at a set position when the conversations come up about the position that you do play. And his name was completely out of it. I can tell you one thing. This year, in that offense, where they throw the hell out the goddamn ball, his name is going to be back in that top five conversation. I can tell you that. Because if Stephon did, could do what he did last year, coming off a goddamn ACL, What you think a healthy A.J.

1:14:11Brown finna do? Yeah, but the thing is, even though then, I don't know, Ocho, because you know Puka still got, he still got Matthew Stafford. And Chase still got Joe. Yeah, I understand. I understand. I saw Drake May play last year. Drake May had a hell of a season. JSN, JSN's like, hey, I kind of like being a 99. I don't know how Puka is a 99. How Puka's not a 99? he will be you know I'm in charge of the ratings I know a lot of people complaining a lot of people complaining about the ratings and who is this and who is that everybody is exactly what they're supposed to be some people need some people need a little bit more motivation which is why they're not a 99 now I wish y 'all in the chat that played Madden let me do my job I got people trying exactly what they need to be just to add a little bit of motivation before the season starts I know what I'm doing

1:15:09They need to give me some platinum shoes. Because Joe, I was 100 at one point. In men? Yeah. That's back when they knew it. Don't do that, Ocho. I guess who else was 100? Barry Sanders? Who? Deion Sanders? Hold on, hold on. To be 100 now, you got to be that boy. Oh yeah. I was that boy now. We don't see him playing, act like he would. Oh, that's what you're telling me. That was him. You would like that now. I really was, Joe. I really was.

1:15:49What are you grabbing over there now? No. Probably one of them helmets. I got to take to my guy at BMW. He hooked my car every time I go. What, he gave you some rims? No, no, no. I had a boat in my tire. A who? what the hell is that a boat i had a like it was not a nail it's a boat yeah and it oh i never heard i never heard that before i did how the hell you get a boat in your tire don't start me to lie but it was in there but uh nah but i we're gonna get that but i just i just hate that for aj because i remember when i I went to Baltimore guys and OTAs. I tweaked my hammy.

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