Best of NFL News Part 2: A.J. Brown is NO T.O + Mahomes GETS PAID + & AD Rams RETURN?!

12 Jun 2026 · 44 min · 16 chapters

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Best-of NFL news discussion covering Deshaun Watson and Shador Sanders in Cleveland, A.J. Brown’s “best ever” comments about the Eagles, Patrick Mahomes’ contract extension, and rumors about Aaron Donald returning to the Rams; plus lighter NFC North QB rankings and Rams/defense speculation.

Guests (hosts/regulars)

The episode is a debate-style show with two main hosts: Ocho (Ocho Cinco) and Uncle Joe (Joe). They argue and trade takes throughout; no other named guests appear in the transcript.

Guest backgrounds

Ocho Cinco is a former NFL wide receiver (noted references to his playing career and memorabilia). Uncle Joe is a former NFL player/football personality (repeated references to his playing history, rings, and defensive knowledge).

Key claims

Browns fans will support Watson if wins come; Watson is expected to start and “job to lose,” with Shador as a fallback. A.J. Brown’s confidence is defended; Terrell Owens is still treated as the Eagles’ top receiver. Mahomes’ $504M deal is framed as a “power move” and deserved. Aaron Donald returning depends on “finding the fire,” but would pair with Miles Garrett to elevate the Rams’ defense.

Notable examples

A.J. Brown signing a photo at the Eagles facility (“best to ever play here”). Mahomes’ average $64M/year and guaranteed early years. Lamar Jackson held to harsher standards due to multiple MVPs and lack of a Super Bowl. Aaron Donald/Miles Garrett double-team logic.

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Deshaun Watson's Situation

1:30 to 1:48

Discussing Deshaun Watson’s relationship with Browns fans and expectations for this season.

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Deshaun Watson's Situation

3:03 to 6:28

Discussing Deshaun Watson’s relationship with Browns fans and expectations for this season.

“potentially not supporting him over Shadur Sanders.”

A.J. Brown vs. T.O.

6:30 to 9:10

Analyzing A.J. Brown's comparison to Terrell Owens and their impacts on the game.

“According to Mike Graffalo, NFL Network, when A.J.”

T.O.'s Legacy and Impact

9:12 to 14:00

Debating Terrell Owens' legacy and the perception of his talent in contrast to his personality.

“he was talked about being revered as one of the top five players in the game.”

The Power of Mindset in Sports

14:00 to 14:18

Discussing the significance of mindset in achieving success in sports.

“even if we have a conversation and the people in the chat have a conversation and say, well, actually, no, you're not.”

The Challenges of Media Trust

14:41 to 15:14

Exploring the distrust in media and its implications on public perception.

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The Challenges of Media Trust

15:45 to 16:43

Exploring the distrust in media and its implications on public perception.

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Understanding Patrick Mahomes' Contract

17:44 to 22:45

Analyzing the implications of Mahomes' new contract for the Chiefs.

“According to Adam Schefter, the Chiefs pulled a power move, added two more years to Patrick Mahomes' contract, tying him to Kansas City through the 2033 season at a value at$504 ,075 ,000.”

Lamar Jackson's Unique Position

22:45 to 25:48

Discussing the standards and expectations placed on Lamar Jackson as an MVP.

“Most of the time, quarterbacks are the only position that don't have to fight for it.”

The Burden of Expectations in the NFL

25:48 to 26:25

Examining how high expectations affect players like Lamar Jackson.

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The Burden of Expectations in the NFL

28:00 to 28:19

Examining how high expectations affect players like Lamar Jackson.

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NFC North Quarterback Rankings

29:20 to 36:29

Evaluating the current quarterbacks in the NFC North and their future.

“Unc, Ocho And Steel King Iso How y 'all doing on this Sunday?”

Aaron Donald's Potential Return

36:29 to 37:00

Discussing Aaron Donald's consideration to return to the Rams.

“And the funny thing about it, too, Unk, think about them having a double team Miles.”

Chicago Pizza and Sports Memories

37:00 to 42:00

Light-hearted banter about Chicago food and personal sports stories.

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Memorabilia and Game Memories

42:00 to 55:06

The hosts share stories and memorabilia from their football careers.

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Memorabilia and Game Memories

56:32 to 57:03

The hosts share stories and memorabilia from their football careers.

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3:02Shannon Sharpe:DeSean Watson spoke on the Browns fan base, potentially not supporting him over Shadur Sanders. at the end of the day, I can't control who some people support. Those are their own opinions, and all I can do is be the best person I can be and showcase who I am as a person, player, and a teammate and what I represent as an individual. Outside of that, I can't focus on outside saying anything. Ocho, what are you thinking? You agree or disagree with what Deshaun had to say?

3:33Joe Johnson:Excuse my language, Uncle Joe. Damn that support. They're in that support right now. We brought you here for a reason. You know, the reasons we did bring you here, you haven't lived up to those expectations, but the money you've got, that has been guaranteed. Some things that you do off the field, that upsets some fans. And obviously you understand what Shador brings to the table, looking at what he does off the field and the energy he gives that team. But, Deshaun, you're being paid a hefty ransom and you haven't given the Browns fans anything or the organization to cheer about due to injury.

4:06Joe Johnson:Rightfully so, due to injuries. But this year, it should make it a break of year. You're going to be the starting quarterback. It's not going to be a quarterback competition. I don't care about what the fans say or what the coaches say, who always want to be politically correct when they ask questions about who your starter is going to be. Deshaun Watson is going to be your starter, and it's going to be his job to lose. If he's not playing well by the time you get to game six, they're going to make that switch to Shador. And when that switch happens, it's not going back.

4:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

4:32Joe Johnson:It's not going back.

4:32Shannon Sharpe:Listen, he can't do nothing about what the fans say or think about him and Shador. But all he has to do, man, is come out and play great football at the end of the day. You ain't got to worry about all that other stuff, bro. You just got to come out and handle business. Now, I don't know if it's going to result in the wins, but you got to give him some hope here. If he plays, I guarantee you, they win a game, he throwing touchdowns. Yeah.

5:02Joe Johnson:They're going to support him, absolutely.

5:05Shannon Sharpe:They've been bad for 30 years, and they've supported other quarterbacks. So if they win games, they're going to support it. Not everybody. Not everybody, and that's okay. Your job ain't there to be liked. Your job is to win games. And if they like you in the process of you winning games, oh, well and good. But if they don't, oh, well and good too.

5:24Joe Johnson:Yeah. Hey, if what you're doing on the field as a quarterback is resulting in wins, they're not going to like you. They're going to love you.

5:30Shannon Sharpe:Right.

5:31Joe Johnson:Because they've been starving for that. They've been starving for that consistency in the win card. I don't know how good he can be with what he got to work with.

5:39Shannon Sharpe:Hey.

5:40Joe Johnson:They done bust over there. You got Concep. Concep's young. Yeah. You know, hey, what's the tie? I love that goddamn tight end. I used to say it last the right way.

5:53Shannon Sharpe:Fanny. Fanny.

5:54Joe Johnson:Fanny. Fanny. Hey, Fanny Jr. Yeah. Hey, man. Boy, I like him. He a lot. He tough in the old show. Yeah. another year or two, he's going to be in that conversation with one of the better tight ends, maybe top five with the way he's playing. If he continues to play the way he played last year, Jerry Judy, you got to come in. Hey, Jerry, this year, you got to come in.

6:15Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we talking about best case scenario for Deshaun Watson, but y 'all know damn well, if them wins ain't adding up, Shadur is love. He's beloved, bro. Them folks want to see Shadur now. Hey, they want to see number two.

6:31Joe Johnson:he didn't change his number to two the deuce is loose yeah wait and you see what he made on

6:37Shannon Sharpe:jersey sales that there alone lets you know they want to see that boy out there yeah that boy what we got 17 m's off of jersey sales yeah 17.7 boy of jersey

6:56Joe Johnson:off a team that really wasn't winning just based on last name alone. Imagine if he get in there and change. Man.

7:05Shannon Sharpe:Check this one out. Think about this. According to Mike Graffalo, NFL Network, when A.J. Brown went to pick up his thing at the Eagle facility, he signed a picture of him in the building with the message, the best to ever play here. Always open. I like that. Only eighth of us all-time eagles in receiving yards. Sitting behind Harold Carmichael, fellow pass catchers, Zach Ertz, Pete Retzeloff, Tommy McDonald, Bobby Walsh. Ocho. Yeah. That was a really, really weird interview last week where he says, you know, hey, I did what I did, okay. But then, you know, about leaking stories and trying to get his team motivated.

7:53But, AJ, before even Ojo go, bro, I think you're phenomenal.

8:00Shannon Sharpe:You're not the best receiver to play there. You ain't seeing T.O. ever. I mean, shoot, ain't nobody seeing T.O.

8:10Joe Johnson:I think you're phenomenal.

8:15Shannon Sharpe:T.O. is one of the three best receivers to ever play in the NFL. One of the three best. I ain't got him one, but I ain't got him three either I believe it at that. I think you're phenomenal. Yeah, you did an outstanding job in your tenure there Y 'all went to two Superbowl. You won one you were a thousand yard receiver. You went to the Pro Bowl But T.O. was a different animal

8:40Joe Johnson:Yeah, I mean listen AJ Brown is good for the times that we're in when it comes to playing at the The position of receiver at one at one point when the conversation of the best receivers in the NFL came up Uncle Joe, you know, AJ Brown was top five. Let's not forget that. Him not being coverable, he is right. There's really nothing you can do with him. You can play off, he's going to dice you up. You can play in his face, he's too strong. He's running right through you. You talking about T.O. or you talking about AJ? Okay, okay, okay. Woody's been able to do. When he's been in the conversations, when things were going well in Philly, he was talked about being revered as one of the top five players in the game.

9:21Things kind of fell off a little bit, but he's still extremely good.

9:25Joe Johnson:And I love the fact that he still has this confidence to even say what he said. And he's supposed to believe that. He's supposed to believe he's the best that's played there. Now, when we talk about facts and some of the players that's played before him that's been there, obviously T.O. reigns supreme. So what are we going to do with D-Jack? Are we just going to kick D-Jack out? Why would I I was just getting ready to say Deshaun Jackson, he was there Deshaun Jackson, one of the best One of the two or three greatest

9:52Shannon Sharpe:deep threat receivers that ever played I mean, you can look at him, Bullet Bob Hayes You look at Randy Moss You look at Reek There hasn't been five better receivers at the deep ball better than D-Jack No, no, not at all

10:08Joe Johnson:But in its totality playing the position of receiver I understand what he means. But then when we break it down, you know, in its totality, when it comes to receivers that are playing for the Philadelphia Eagles, a conversation needs to be had. But that doesn't take away how great he is when he was there and how great he has to feel to be able to do what he's done. I just don't know.

10:30Shannon Sharpe:I only know we have a conversation about number one. Because for me, I don't know if he – I mean, T.O. and D. Jack. Yeah. I think the thing is that people allowed some of T.O.'s antics on the sidelines and stuff, you know, Joe. I think they allowed that to overshadow. I don't think people realize just how good T.O. was. And I do.

10:55Joe Johnson:They don't. Well, you got to know football, Uncle. You got to know ball. You got to understand and be able to separate the antics and you not liking them personally and understand how great he was. Hell, man. Yeah. Hold on. This is the funny thing about it, Uncle Joe. Hold on, how great he was on the back end when he came to Cincinnati. Where he was in Buffalo in his short stint there. What he did in Dallas.

11:18Shannon Sharpe:What he did in Philly. Yeah.

11:20Joe Johnson:What he did in Philly. What he did in Cincinnati.

11:23Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, hey, he broke his leg in Philly and came back and played in the – Yes, and got 100. Super upset. Joe, in seven weeks, he had 142. 22. Nine for 122. Seven weeks. A 122. But the mere fact that he had 100 yards of a broken leg in less than three months. Yeah, yeah. Like I said, I think sometimes we allow a person antics. Because even though I'm – look, A.B.'s antics drove me crazy. But that don't take away what type of player that he was. Right. A. Two things can be true. Somebody can be a jerk off the field and have boorish behavior on it. But his talent is undeniable. Yes, sir. No matter what you think of T.O., his talent is undeniable.

12:10Shannon Sharpe:Go look at everywhere he went. There's only been three guys that's ever been a first team all pro on three different teams. Deion Sanders, Ted Hendricks, and Terrell Owens. Think about it. How many guys have played in the NFL? How many guys that have played on multiple, multiple teams? Only three. Yes. Have been first team all pro on three different teams.

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12:41Shannon Sharpe:Go back and look at even when Jerry was still in his prime. Go back and look at T.O. numbers back in 97, back in 98. Go look at his numbers when Jerry was still putting up his numbers. T.O. had 14 touchdowns a year. Jerry was still putting up big-time numbers. Y 'all better stop playing with that man. You might not like some of his antics. You might not like some of the things that he said. but you cannot deny his talent. You cannot, the one thing I've, and the reason why I respected him so much, I always know he gonna give me everything he got. He might get mad because he didn't get no, and I know as a defensive coordinator, I'm gonna double him early because I'm gonna take him out of the game because if he doesn't get the ball early, I already know how it's gonna go, and that's my job.

13:28Yeah, yeah.

13:29Shannon Sharpe:I want it to go sideways. I'm doing everything I possibly can on Joe to make it go sideways.

13:39Joe Johnson:But honestly, Uncle Joe, to get back on context and what we were talking about and to get people that are in the chat, to give you perspective on the mindset of A.J. Brown saying what he said is one of the reasons why he is who he is. It's one of the reasons why he's still one of the better receivers in the league. There's a reason why he was in the conversation for being top five before things soured over in Philly. The mindset alone and actually believing I am the best. even if we have a conversation and the people in the chat have a conversation and say, well, actually, no, you're not. It's the mindset and believing that I am in general.

14:11Joe Johnson:First of all, how we feel about it, this is why he is as good as he is. This is why he was able to get the Philadelphia Eagles to a Super Bowl. Copenhagen's Spit Free packs American-grown tobacco into pouches made from when your elbow's deep in an engine block. They're masked up, torching deep cuts into stubborn pipes. Her helmet's on, riding deep into backcountry. When there's no time or space to spit, grab Copenhagen's spit-free pouches. Find them in stores today. Not all varieties available in all geographies. Warning, this product can cause mouth cancer. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything.

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17:50Joe Johnson:Because of the mindset. Oh yeah, two Super Bowls. I'm sorry, my bad.

17:59Shannon Sharpe:According to Adam Schefter, the Chiefs pulled a power move, added two more years to Patrick Mahomes' contract, tying him to Kansas City through the 2033 season at a value at$504 ,075 ,000. $504 ,075 ,000. This will make Patrick Mahomes the first NFL player to have a deal worth over a half a billion dollars. When the new money kicks in starting in 2027, Patrick Mahomes will earn an average of$64 million a year. And if I'm not mistaken, the first four years of that contract is guaranteed. Ojo, are you surprised the Chiefs gave Mahomes this type of money coming off the serious injury that he suffered just last season?

18:42Joe Johnson:Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You understand the importance and the value of Patrick Mahomes, and you're not paying him for what he's done, what he's already done. You're paying him what he's going to do moving forward. Patrick Mahomes right now arguably still, while active, probably is top five, top three, depending on who you ask quarterbacks to ever play this game. And you know as long as he's healthy, as long as he's there, he always gives you a chance to win. Your Kansas City Chiefs are going to always be in contention. You understand how important your quarterback is, especially that position.

19:10Joe Johnson:If you look at some of the other teams, look at the landscape, some of the other teams that are continuing to struggle year in and year out is because they don't have any – Consist to play at that position. To play at that position. Once you get your quarterback, Joe, especially when you get one this good, and you're able to build around him and put pieces around him and allow things to flow through him, it makes everything most easy. And a quarterback like Mahomes is one you don't have a problem having to make$64 million a year because you know what he gives you in the season and in the postseason.

19:39Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I agree. Go ahead, Joe. I agree. I think Mahomes, he will continue to be one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL. and for Kansas City, there's no way in hell, you know, you let him get out of there, so you take care of him, bro. You know what I mean? And I think, you know, with him at the helm, hell, you're always going to have a great chance. Always. It don't surprise me. Always. And guess what? Remember, Joe, they moving. They going to this new arena. How did that happen?

20:11Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:12Shannon Sharpe:15, 1-5. Yeah. You was in five of the last seven Super Bowls. How did that happen? You do realize they didn't want to, I mean, who did they beat? The Vikings? I think they beat the Vikings at 70. And then it was 50-plus years before they even got back to another one. Yeah. And why was that? 1-5. Yeah, he good. He's as good at advertising. I didn't think it was going to be this. I mean, I watched him. I saw two games. I saw him that night, him and Baker Mayfield lit this guy up, and he threw for a damn near 800 yards. And I saw him in another game. But I remember watching him. I watched him one time.

20:55Shannon Sharpe:He played the Broncos the last game of the season. They rested their starters, and he lit the Broncos up. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, Alex Smith, you gone. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, you gone. You gone. Yeah, you're not going to be there next year. And he's been – they saw something that they like. Andy and Brett say, look, because think about it. Andy says, we're really good. I mean, we're running 10, 11, 12 games a year with Alex Smith. But just imagine if we had a guy that would really push the ball down the field. Yeah. Because Alex Smith didn't really want to push the ball down the field. We called him – well, I gave him the name Checkdown Alex because he was looking to check the ball down.

21:37Shannon Sharpe:He wanted a high completion percentage. Yeah. He ain't throwing a at the end of the half Joe he throwing that ball. He's shaking up all down He ain't gonna cut the incompletion but go get my completion percentage. We'll go get my quarterback rating my home fired Look at the office You don't get when you got that guy that can push it down the field it can make those throws like my homeboy can

21:59Joe Johnson:Was that Joe at mom home give you hell man because you you look at a quarterback and then what he's able to do You look at his strengths and weaknesses, which you always want to play with his strengths. Mahomes don't really have a weakness. He can be on the center. He can play in the gun. You can roll him left. You can roll him right. He can throw in multiple slots when it comes to angles and being able to release the ball. Do anything. And the fact that, okay, he's coming off a torn ACL. Well, hell, he can still do everything else from the pocket. It's not like he was Michael Vick. It's not like he was Lamar Jackson.

22:32Joe Johnson:He can run and still be a dual threat quarterback, but he can do everything else extremely well as well.

22:38Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I'm excited for him, bro. You know, hey, anytime they get these guys their money, man, they deserve it. Hey, man, kudos to you, brother. Most of the time, quarterbacks are the only position that don't have to fight for it. More times than not, they're going to take care of the quarterbacks. Yeah. Well, except for number eight, he had to fight for you. As a matter of fact, he still fought about that.

22:59Joe Johnson:Hey, hey, hey. I don't know what that's about. I ain't going to bring it up. I ain't going to bring it up. I'm just saying he fighting for it right now behind Kobe. Y 'all know what it's about. Y 'all know what it's about.

23:06Shannon Sharpe:What you mean? Yeah, you're right. I mean, I don't know why. I don't know what else he can do. I mean, he hasn't done any less than some of these other quarterbacks, and they ain't got no problem getting any money.

23:21Shannon Sharpe:He said, I know. If y 'all want to compare me to them, okay, I get that. And I get it. Ocho, to agree, I understand. Because what you and I have talked about, Joe, before we joined, I said, tell Ocho, I said, Joe, Ocho, They hold Lamar to a different standard because he has two MVPs. Yeah. All the other quarterbacks that have at least two MVPs have gotten to a Super Bowl. Yeah. Whether they've won or not is something entirely we can discuss that at a later date in time. You talk about Peyton Manning. You talk about Tom Brady. You talk about Brett Favre. You talk about Aaron Rodgers. You talk about Joe Montana.

23:53Shannon Sharpe:You talk about, what's the guy, Kurt Warner, Steve Young. Those are the guys that have multiple MVPs. Think about the guys that I named. Y 'all heard the list. Yeah. That's why they hold Lamar different than what Josh Allen, different than what they hold Joe Burrow, different than what they hold Justin Herbert, because they don't have, he gets compared to those other guys. That's why they don't compare Josh Allen to Steve Young and Joe Montana and Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers, because he doesn't have two MVPs. That's why.

24:31Joe Johnson:Yeah, you know what to enjoy, you know, can you think about it now that now you lumping Josh out in that conversation? He might not have to but he does have one. So now his expectations are held to a different standard with the Trevor Lawrence

24:44Shannon Sharpe:He gets held to a different story standard, but think about it. Oh, Joe I mean, uh, who will Johnny Unitas You talk about a guy you talk about Pantheon guys that have multiple MVPs Lamar Jackson has that and all of those guys have been to a Super Bowl so that's why people are so critical or harsh on Lamar because they see bro they like bro you realize up in a hundred plus years they're probably not but 10 quarterbacks that have multiple MVPs and you're the only one that haven't went to the Super Bowl he gets to a Super Bowl even if he doesn't win it but if he wins it.

25:24Joe Johnson:Oh, it's a wrap. Hey, he could be a play. He could play your play. He could play freely. I call it playing. Yes. You get that monkey back. You ain't got nothing to worry about because I've already with everybody is criticized. Yes.

25:39Shannon Sharpe:I don't know if you guys remember, but when Steve Young won the Super Bowl, when they beat, when they beat the Chargers, he came to the sideline and what did he say? Get that monkey off my back. Yeah. Because he had two MVPs.

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29:27Shannon Sharpe:He couldn't get over. He couldn't get past the Cowboys. Yeah.

29:36Joe Johnson:Unc, Ocho And Steel King Iso How y 'all doing on this Sunday? I got a question for y 'all Y 'all see y 'all repping Packers early Before the season even starts Unc, Ocho Where do y 'all rank the quarterbacks Of the NFC North? My opinion, I'ma go Jared Goff Jordan Love, Caleb Then Kyler and I so my question for you if you were to play in the NFL what position would you play outside of tight end or wide receiver because of your height what position would you play but y 'all boys have a good night

30:13Shannon Sharpe:I love the show y 'all get me through my work day love oh boy I'd be a hell of a tight end I got something nah Joe I think you'd be a deep end yeah Joe who too tall but my hands and my hands and my feet.

30:32Joe Johnson:Oh, you got too much target for you, Joe. They're going to kill you out there at tight end.

30:37Shannon Sharpe:Get me in the red zone. Who's going to stop me? Who's going to check me? Well, you know you got to get to the red zone. So you don't want no passes until you get to the red zone, huh? Joe, Joe, he don't want no passes until you get to the red zone. He want to jump up and catch a touchdown and run off the field. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have been in the end zone dancing here. Nah, Joe, you'd be a great defensive end. Six foot seven that wingspan lockout rip yeah Joe you'll kill him on defense hey Ed 2 Charles Jones was 6 foot 9 what type of money did Ed just make it shoot you see that's the I mean you know I ain't saying I wouldn't be a bad boy but damn hey you gonna make it at 25 probably 25 30 alright all right all right all right tight ends don't make that much they make good but they don't make that

31:38Shannon Sharpe:they don't make that I can see that I don't know how much longer Jared Goff is going to be in the number one slot I mean after this year hell he might be down to three Caleb Williams coming

31:48Joe Johnson:I mean but but as it is right now I'm going to talk about the NFC NFC North quarterbacks obviously Jared Goff is number one I would have Jordan Love third I mean Jordan Love second Caleb Williams and then Kyler Murray after that. Yeah, I agree with that list, yeah, but I'm not so sure after this year it's going to be that. No, probably not. Honestly, I think after this season I wouldn't be surprised if Caleb Williams jumped to number one and then Jordan Love is second.

32:15Shannon Sharpe:I just

32:16Joe Johnson:don't see with the supporting cast that Jerry Goff has, I don't see him sliding down that much to where now it's a conversation based on preference based on the quarterback that you do like.

32:27Shannon Sharpe:based on the maturation that I've seen from Caleb Williams and his second year in this Ben Johnson system, hey, we might be thinking about him and a whole different – damn the NFC North, he going to be one of the top two or three quarterbacks in the damn league. There's not a throw that he can't make. Now, yeah, he holds on to the ball sometimes, you know, a little bit too long, Ocho, but man, his improvisational skills, his ability to throw the football rolling left or rolling right. He nice.

33:02Shannon Sharpe:Yo, what's up? I don't know if you want to hear this. What you got, man? Aaron Donald text reporter Jordan Schultz Tuesday night and said he's considered returning to the Rams. The text read, I'm for sure flirting with the idea. Hell of an opportunity with the Super Bowl and so far this year. If I can find the fire, it's a possibility. Ocho, if A.D. Miles Garrett on the same D line with Fisk and with that great rotation they got, what are you thinking is, could this be the greatest defense ever?

33:32Joe Johnson:I mean, I don't know about the greatest defense ever, but it'd be two of the greatest players to ever lace them up on defense. I don't know about the greatest defense, but what did I say when Miles Garrett, when we talked about this night before last? I said there's a good chance because Miles Garrett is going there, even though Aaron Donald has not played a down in two years, but he's consistently stayed in shape. He consistently worked out, but there's nothing like actually playing football. There's nothing like actually playing football, but knowing Aaron Donald and what he's already accomplished.

34:04Joe Johnson:If there's one reason to have to come back that makes it easy and want to get another Super Bowl championship, it's right now.

34:14Shannon Sharpe:Hey.

34:14Joe Johnson:It's right now. And that window for the Rams, this is the time to do it. If he's going to...

34:20Shannon Sharpe:Hey, listen. I understand it's very intriguing for him to come back, but did you hear the key word? He has to find the fire. Mm-hmm. Hey, hey, that ain't easy, fellas. He been sitting down chilling. Yeah, he been working out. He in great shape. Do I think he can come back and still be effective? Hell, yeah. But you have to want to put your body through that rigorous NFL season, and he knows what it's like, bro. He knows what it's going to be like in week eight. You know what I mean? When you banged up and so as I don't know what. Yeah, he know what that's like, bro. It's just hard when you step away from the game like that, Joe, Ocho.

34:57Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, we know how it is. When we just miss, when you put them pads on, take them off once the season's over, and you don't really put the full pads back onto your training camp, it takes you a while to get everything, get readjusted the way that thing feel and get your body used to carrying those pads again. You get your spidey senses tingling. He's been away for two years. He used to automatically know, oh, man, this guard's sitting light. When somebody hit him somewhere, he knows the trap's coming. He's going to have to relearn all that. His Spidey senses will have to start tingling again. Yeah.

35:34Shannon Sharpe:Could he do it? Yes. But like you said, Joe, to find that fireman, he walked away and said, man, I just didn't have the desire. Yeah. And it wasn't like they were a bad team. No. No, no. Hold on. He walked away with nothing else to prove. That's what I'm saying. What do you want to prove now? What else do you want to prove now? Let me ask you a question. If he comes out of retirement and he plays well, will you think any different of Aaron Donald? Absolutely not. Eight times first-team All-Pro. Three defensive players a year. Defensive rookie of the year. I ain't got nothing. I'm going to make a case.

36:04Shannon Sharpe:If he never comes back, if he comes back, he's a top-five defensive player of all time based on his body of work and the level of play. Even if you just take the awards away, which you can't, cut the tape off. Right. Yeah. Just cut the tape off. That's all you need to see. And a guy like Aaron Donald, y 'all know he want to come back and dominate. He ain't trying to come back. Yes, yes. He can't be average. No, sir. He don't know what that's like. He ain't nowhere in here.

36:31Joe Johnson:And the funny thing about it, too, Unk, think about them having a double team Miles. Think about them having a double team Miles and try to double him. That opens up everything else for other people. Defensively, they can do that much more because of those two on that line.

36:48Shannon Sharpe:Oh, he'll make that defensive line. Hell no. He come back. Oh, yeah. Ooh-wee.

36:52Joe Johnson:Man.

36:53Shannon Sharpe:I don't want him to, though. Stay your ass at home.

37:00Shannon Sharpe:It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q. Hey.

37:05Joe Johnson:I'm leaving already. Hey, anybody in the chat in Chicago? Got a nice old food spot I can eat at tomorrow. A little soulful spot.

37:14Shannon Sharpe:Huh? Man, you better get you some good pizza.

37:18Joe Johnson:In Chicago? Yeah, they're known for pizza. I thought New York was known for pizza. Uh, Joe, Uncle Joe?

37:24Shannon Sharpe:Chicago and New York. Both of them are known for pizza. Chicago known for the deep dish. Okay. Yeah.

37:29Joe Johnson:Okay, but where I go?

37:30Shannon Sharpe:Uh, you go to...

37:31Joe Johnson:I don't live in Chicago! But you just said they're known for pizza, so I'm thinking you probably know where to go.

37:36Shannon Sharpe:I would say Giordano's, but I know it's been around for quite some time. Ask Chet. I'm sure they're geese. Man, I left Chicago in 1970. He's Georgia. I'm a Georgia boy. Oh, you from Chicago?

37:46Joe Johnson:You from Chicago, huh?

37:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I was born in Chicago.

37:49Joe Johnson:Hey, it's so funny. Hey, Joe, you wasn't on here, though, right? It's something you didn't know. You know, when I used to be in Chicago, I used to be in Chicago with Obama. Doing what? You know, me and Obama, we GD. God, dog. You ain't know that?

38:07Shannon Sharpe:Nah, nah, I ain't know that old Joe.

38:10Joe Johnson:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, this throwback, too. What's the GD sign?

38:13Shannon Sharpe:How you throw up GD?

38:15Joe Johnson:I ain't finna do that on here, Joe. I ain't finna do that. I ain't finna do that. Come to me.

38:22Shannon Sharpe:Come to me. Now, pick it up.

38:30Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Joe. Now, if you want to look at this, right here. Them coveys. Put that there. Yeah. And he autographed them. Now, if you really want to put something up to try to get these. Uh-oh. Oh. Oh, listen. Look at him.

38:47Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, he on your head, Joe.

38:49Shannon Sharpe:Can you see that signature, Joe? He on your head, Joe. Yeah, I see that signature, man. Hey. Joke it right off his feet. Go look at the game that he played, that he played the Nuggets. He played at them. I went right back there to the locker room and got them. He signed them, Joe.

39:07Shannon Sharpe:Hey, boy, hey, hey. I got some stuff over there on him, man.

39:09Joe Johnson:Yeah, I'm on it. He got signed, Curry signed, LeBron signed. You got anything signed for LeBron? I do. And you got Kobe too? Yeah, I got a lot of stuff signed.

39:20Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I was told. I just let people talk. You know, somebody was on the camera, he would cry. LeBron won't come on. If you only knew some of the things that I've, I ain't going to say nothing. Right, right, right, right. You know, they're going to be bad. They be bad. They be bad. I'm going to let it go. But don't worry about it. But I got no one from Kobe. Got no one from old Kobe. You know what? I might put those on when I shoot you in the three-point competition. Oh, oh, oh. Don't, don't. Joe, hey, he coming at your neck, Joe. Don't diminish the value on them shoes, okay? Don't, don't, don't do that.

39:53Shannon Sharpe:Don't do that. Please don't do that. Oh, you want me to wage them against you? You want to put something up against them? Yeah, I want. Damn. Since you in the mood of giving, because that's basically. Ain't no giving. That's basically what the hell you going to be doing. You going to be giving them to me. Hey, I got some stuff over here. If we play the Cowboys, Joe. When we play y 'all? I don't know if we play y 'all. But if we do, that's ass cutting for y 'all. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I got, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When we play y 'all, we bet that you got to wear a Cowboy jersey when you.

40:27Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, y 'all did me that bet. Y 'all play the Ravens. Yeah, I'm going to make sure. I got one with your name. What you need, buddy? XL? Two, eight? What you need? Nah, I need more than XL. You need two XL? Yep. I got you. Ocho, just in case you didn't know, what did that say? Shannon Sharp.

40:49Joe Johnson:That say Shannon Sharp.

40:52Shannon Sharpe:What are they, 84-2000s? Yes, established in 2000. I played for the Ravens. So see, what y 'all keep talking about, oh, man.

41:00Joe Johnson:Hey, we didn't doubt you you didn't play for the Ravens. The fact that you was only there for two weeks is the part that we keep talking about.

41:07Shannon Sharpe:And I won the Super Bowl. No. All right. You know what you want me to do? Chad, I go to a team and I win the Super Bowl. He want me to renounce my rights

41:19Joe Johnson:because I wasn't there for 15 years. I didn't say renounce your rights. You were a Denver Bronco. When we talk about Shannon Sharp, we remember Shannon Sharp as a Denver Bronco. That's it.

41:30Shannon Sharpe:They over there? Yeah, I got it. Yeah. Super Bowl one. For Ravens. You know what? See how you do, Ocho? I don't be bothering nobody. I mean, Chad, I was there. I went there. I did what I was supposed to do. As a veteran guy, come in there, practice hard, show the guys how we're going to do this thing, and win a Super Bowl. Damn. Hold on.

41:54Joe Johnson:I practice hard, too. But hell, I didn't have a number one defense in the NFL.

41:58Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what you want me to tell you, Ocho.

42:00Joe Johnson:Hey, it's all good. It's all good. Listen, I won plenty of rings and championships on Madden.

42:06Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man.

42:08Joe Johnson:I'm just saying, Joe, I had to settle for that.

42:11Shannon Sharpe:Oh, that game won. That thing got a little dirt on, got a little grass things on. That's Andrew Jersey from the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. There should be a patch over here, Joe. I see it, yeah. Yeah, I see it. I see it. Because sometimes Ocho don't think I'm playing for the ring. But I need it. Hey, hey, let me get that. No. Hold on. Why you want to get this and you have your own? You don't even wear your own jersey. You don't have your own stuff hanging up.

42:37Joe Johnson:I don't know, man. I do, you know, I'm not in the memorabilia. I don't know why, Joe. But you want my jersey? Why you want my jersey? I just want, I'm going to put it, you know, under my nightcap sign. No, no. You ain't got no damn nightcap, your nightcap sign ain't even up. It's right there. It worked. You see, I got my YouTube plex. Where? Man, that's right there.

42:57Shannon Sharpe:Man, somebody put that up with a ruler. with a uh-oh, uh-oh. You know something like that. Hey, hey, Joe. They ain't use no levels or nothing. Right, right. He just put that up with eyesight. Now, it's even though. Who told you that?

43:17Joe Johnson:Well, yeah, y 'all, wait till I get my room done. Hey, y 'all going to be happy. And I ain't even going to tell you when it's done. I'm just going to come on. Everything will be lit up all nice.

43:27Shannon Sharpe:You going to have that thing where it follow you around

43:30Joe Johnson:so we can see different angles and all that? Yeah, because, you know, I like to get up and demonstrate stuff. So when I get up and demonstrate, my camera going to follow me. Yeah, OK. All right. Yeah.

43:39Shannon Sharpe:No, but I'm saying, Ocho, I mean, you ain't even got your own jerseys hanging up.

43:46Joe Johnson:Oh, you know, I don't be into that stuff, man. I don't be into that stuff.

43:50Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I probably should have had him wash the jersey before. No, it look better like that. It look better dirty, though. I guess they don't have to authenticate it, because they can look at that and say, yeah, that was actually Georgia Ward in the game. Yeah, that was game one. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, they're probably going to be worth a little something now. Well, the kids. Look at it, Ojo. Look at what I got.

44:15Joe Johnson:Damn. Who that?

44:17Shannon Sharpe:Hey, that's Pickens.

44:19Joe Johnson:Who? Carl Pickens. Carl Pickens. Hey, that's probably the nicest helmet y 'all ever had, Ojo. Yeah, I mean, our helmet's still the same. Same stripe, same everything.

44:30Shannon Sharpe:I got a game ball against y 'all too, Ocho. What the score was? I don't know, but I have got my 500. 33-26. Damn, man. I mean, I had some good moments against y 'all. Oh, and this was at y 'all place too, Ocho.

44:47Joe Johnson:Hey, um, listen, I wish I had all my stuff from when I used to douse the Ravens up. Hey, Joe, I used to be getting them boys that business. Yeah, you gave them that work. Man, getting them boys that work, boy. Hey, I got a couple game balls against Cincinnati.

45:02Shannon Sharpe:You got any game balls against Denver? Who, me? Yeah, you.

45:06Joe Johnson:Joe didn't play against Denver. Yeah, yeah, I do. Hey, Chad, tell him what I did against Denver Monday night.

45:12Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Will you pull up there and I don't?

45:15Joe Johnson:Huh? No, no, no, no, no, no. That was the Jets, and I was the postie. I'm talking about what I did to Denver Monday night. What you did to him, Ojo? Man, man, I ain't wanting to brag, but I'm sure the chat know what I did Monday night to Denver. You cut rug? Man, listen, I cut the rug and took it home with me, Joe. Joe, I cut the rug and took it home with me.

45:37Shannon Sharpe:But Joe, when you decide what you want to wager to try to get these Colby's up off me, I mean, I either want you want the Colby's or you want the Steph's. I mean, you show me them Colby's. I ain't going to lie. I kind of want them Colby's now. Them Kobe's and that Louis Vuitton ball. Whatever, we can cornhole it. We can shoot jumpers. Oh, you're not winning that, Joe. I want to give you something that you could possibly win. Like basketball. You can't beat me in no cornhole, Joe. I'm telling you. Listen, if it was just me and you, it would have been a little different story. I had Ojo in my damn way.

46:11Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean?

46:13Joe Johnson:Hey, hey, hey, hey. Listen, you got bigger fish to fry with me, So you might want to start with Ochoa first.

46:18Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I keep telling y 'all, we go bowling. Y 'all, whatever you want to do, Joe, Ochoa? Well, hey, hey, hey, we seen how that turned out. So we ain't got to talk about that. No. I don't want to. I got to get this old knee healthy first. Yeah, no, I don't even want to get you back out there. I did a mean demonstration on you on Ochoa. Nah, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

46:39Joe Johnson:I got my own. But what's that? That's an eight-pound old? That ball looks small.

46:51Shannon Sharpe:I got my - Hey, Ocho, you know what I'm saying? That's how I normally do it right now. Ocho, you don't thump. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn.

46:59Joe Johnson:Hey. Hey. Hey, Joe, that's exactly how you feel.

47:06Shannon Sharpe:Nah, I don't feel you. What you mean?

47:09Joe Johnson:Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

47:12Shannon Sharpe:Nah, nah, nah. All right, don't worry about that. See, Joe, I got a place with my shoes. I see. I see. Hey, Unc, your knees ain't good. You can't get more no more, man. I mean, the gel shots did me a little good. I might need to get me a couple of mow to throw it over. Unc, you look like one of them cats when they come to the gym. I'm talking about they got the Jordan sleeve on. They got the jersey tucked in. Man, I used to go to the bowling tournament all the time. You know, you go to a bowling tournament, and you know, hey, you get your ball, you get a bag. So every time I go, I get a ball. I give me a bag.

47:47Shannon Sharpe:I don't know what happened to that. Now, when I pull out that big play Shea ball, all I do is hold it like this and the pen's fall. They already know what's going to happen, Joe. Come on, come on, come on. I just hold the ball up. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on.

48:03Joe Johnson:I don't believe it. I seen it.

48:05Shannon Sharpe:I don't believe it.

48:06Joe Johnson:Yeah. I saw it too. I still don't believe it.

48:08Shannon Sharpe:I'm the best bowler you ever played against, Ocho. You know it. Joe, you drink wine? The best who? Yeah, I drink wine. The best bowler you ever played again?

48:17Joe Johnson:You know what? The best bowler I played against, I beat him.

48:21Shannon Sharpe:I'm putting this bottle of wine up to you, Joe. What's that? That's red? That's a cap? That's red. Back-to-back championship wine. Damn. Why it's so little? I got the big bottle. I don't know. I think I might have gave the big bottle to my brother. That ain't nothing but a swallow. But that's all right. Joe ain't going to get it. Well, I'm getting all that memorabilia you got over there.

48:44Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe.

48:45Shannon Sharpe:What's up? Hey, Uncle got all that.

48:48Joe Johnson:He ain't got nothing but a no. Oh, let me see what kind of memorabilia I got.

48:53Shannon Sharpe:You ain't got nothing over there.

48:55Joe Johnson:Nothing. I do.

49:00See, we got this.

49:01Shannon Sharpe:We play like a raven. Yeah. That's what we do. We play like a raven. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Hey, Ocho. This is what Ocho gonna like right here.

49:12Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe. What Oh Joe going to like? Yo. What about these, Oh, Joe? There we go.

49:18Joe Johnson:But what do you mean they're what? They're just Van der Rosas. OK. What you know about that? Hey, you ain't even got them in the here at all? Don't worry about why I got them. Hey, they probably still. Hey, Joe? Hey, Joe, I got something. I got these flip flops. Man, what the hell is that? No, hold on. These just ain't any flip flops. These Neymar. Namar wore these. Namar wore them. Yeah, he wore these and he gave them to me. Man, you put your feet.

49:45Shannon Sharpe:Man, I'm cool on them flip flops. Yeah. I saw a dude at the airport with flip flops in the bathroom. I like, really, dude? Yeah. And throwing flip flops, I ain't about to have my feet out like that no way. I'm just going to keep them 100. Yeah, your feet bad, Joe. But I'm just saying. Hold on, hold on. I'm just saying, though. I already know, Joe. The basketball, I don't see them today. You got them hammer toes, toenails probably black. Yeah. Nah, my toenails ain't black no more. I got all that out of there. It's over with. It's gone. You got them pills or you took the shots? Nah, hell nah. I soak my feet in apple cider vinegar, Epsom salt.

50:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do that to get the fungus out of there. I'm good now. Hey, Joe, hold on.

50:33Joe Johnson:So you don't want Neymar sandals? Man, hell, what I'm going to do with that? Hold on, hold on. What about this right here, old Joe? Nah, I got something better than that. You got the little flip phone.

50:43Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you know? Hey, Joe. I got that one in glib, Joe. I got that one and the small one.

50:50Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe, you know who phone this is? Who's that? This is Pablo Escobar phone that he used when he was in Miami. Hello?

50:57Shannon Sharpe:How you get that?

50:59Joe Johnson:What you mean, how I get that? Joe? Oh, who you calling? Listen. Hey, Joe, you want to play this? It's Pablo Escobar.

51:08Shannon Sharpe:I don't want that damn phone. I'm talking about Pablo Escobar. Yeah. Nah, I'm good. You ain't got nothing. Joe, I keep all my phones, Joe. Do you? Hell yeah. I'm saying, you still got the Rolodex in there? You still go? If you... Yeah, OK. I ain't calling nobody. I want that eight. This right here calling me a lot of problems. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. Hey, so if anybody watching this and you know what I was in, and you know when I had this, don't be expecting no calls. Yeah. Because it ain't happening.

51:42Joe Johnson:Hey, my kids must have took my basketball.

51:45Shannon Sharpe:That LeBron James one?

51:46Joe Johnson:OK. Yeah, hey, baby. Man, where my LeBron James basketball at?

51:53Shannon Sharpe:Hey, huh? Huh? OK, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey. I got a life-size bobble here. I'm going to have to bring it down here so y 'all can see it. Hey, Unc. You want to shoot for it, Joe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see you got a little bundle over there. You got a little package over there. Yeah, yeah. I do. I mean, clearly you say you want the COVID. You saw the COVID, so you want the COVID. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's going to look better over here anyway. Hey, Ocho, I'll tell you what I'm going to do for you. We'll get you a real signed ball by LeBron James, OK?

52:27Joe Johnson:Well, hold on. I got his 40 ,000-point ball when he scored 40 ,000.

52:32Shannon Sharpe:You got to cut it out, Ocho.

52:33Joe Johnson:Yeah.

52:34Shannon Sharpe:It's time.

52:35Joe Johnson:Hey, them kids done lost my ball. My ball not even in my closet, man. They probably took my ball to the park. Yeah, time to cut it out.

52:40Shannon Sharpe:We got to get you right. Ocho, you're right, though. But they hard now. Look how big I had, Ocho. Cigars. Some cigars. Yeah. You got to have them in the humidor, man. They ain't no good now. I keep them. I give them to my homeboy. My homeboy will smoke them and get hot. They probably like weed now, Ocho. The thing's so punchy.

53:04Joe Johnson:Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. You don't want that Pablo Escobar phone?

53:07Shannon Sharpe:Nah, I'm cool on that phone, bro.

53:10Joe Johnson:Yeah, I got like 15, 16 in my phones.

53:13Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Damn, huh? I don't give them back. I bet you ain't got no sidekick. I ain't had a sidekick, Ocho. I ain't had a sidekick. I had a sidekick. You ever want, Ocho? Yeah, yeah. I had that flip that thing up real quick. Right. This little right here got me in a lot of trouble. Yeah. Yeah. Hi. Who went through your phone? What do you mean? You couldn't lock it. All you had to do was get somebody to get it. And you open it. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. And what you call it? It's Star 69? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Every time I got the phone, I called my sister.

53:51Boo, boo, boo, boo, boo.

53:53Shannon Sharpe:Star 69 deck.

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