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Nightcap Podcast Episode Notes
Episode Overview
- Podcast Title: Nightcap
- Episode Title: Best of NFL News Part 2: C.J. Stroud's DELUSIONAL!, Ben Johnson IS LEGIT, Titans HIRE Robert Saleh as Head Coach
- Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
- Description: Shannon and Ocho react to NFL headlines, including C.J. Stroud's comments on his season struggles, Ben Johnson's coaching philosophy, and the Titans hiring Robert Saleh.
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Key Topics Discussed
- Ben Johnson's Coaching Philosophy
- Starting from Scratch:
- Johnson emphasizes that each new season requires building from the ground up, regardless of past successes.
- Sharpe and Johnson appreciate his candidness and strong mindset about resetting expectations each year.
- Expectations and Improvement:
- Johnson discusses the need for his team to work harder this upcoming season, comparing it to losing weight—initial progress is easy, but the final push is challenging.
- Emphasizes understanding that previous successes do not guarantee future performance.
- C.J. Stroud's Accountability
- Stroud's Comments:
- Stroud attributes some of his struggles to the Texans' defense, claiming he didn't always need to be "Superman."
- Sharpe and Johnson critique Stroud's lack of accountability, emphasizing that great defense should not excuse turnover issues.
- Debate on NFL Performance:
- Discussion on how Stroud's statement reflects a broader issue in quarterback mentality regarding accountability.
- Johnson questions the logic that a strong defense should correlate with fewer turnovers.
- Titans Hire Robert Saleh
- Analysis of the Hire:
- Saleh, formerly of the 49ers, is seen as a strong hire for the Titans, especially for defensive strategies.
- There is a focus on the importance of finding a quality offensive coordinator to support young quarterback Cam Ward.
- Future of the Titans:
- Johnson and Sharpe speculate on the Titans' potential trajectory under Saleh, emphasizing the need for improved offensive weapons and offensive line protection.
- Head Coach Dynamics
- Discussion on Coaching Relationships:
- The relationship dynamics between coaches and players, including communication issues and expectations.
- Insights on how the success of a coach can depend significantly on the overall talent and execution of the team.
- NFL Player Movements
- Brandon Ayuk's Situation:
- Discussion on Ayuk's absence from the 49ers and speculation around player dissatisfaction.
- Sharpe and Johnson highlight the complexities of player-agent relationships and the impacts of contract negotiations.
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Special Guest Rashid Shaheed (Seattle Seahawks)
- Introduction:
- Shaheed joins the conversation to discuss his experiences transitioning from the Saints to the Seahawks.
- Key Points:
- Shaheed reflects on his role in the Seahawks' success and the excitement of potentially playing in the Super Bowl.
- Discusses the importance of teamwork and adapting to the new offensive system in Seattle.
- Shares insights about his journey, including the emotional aspects of being traded.
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Notable Quotes
- On Coaching Philosophy: "We go back to square one. We got to start from scratch." – Ben Johnson
- Regarding Accountability: "If you don't have to be Superman, you shouldn't struggle." – Shannon Sharpe
- On Player Development: "You still need the players to be able to perform." – Chad Johnson
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Conclusion This episode of Nightcap dives deep into the latest NFL headlines while showcasing the unfiltered banter between Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson. They offer critical insights into coaching philosophies, player accountability, and team dynamics, making it a must-listen for football enthusiasts.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBen Johnson's Coaching Philosophy
1:38 to 2:59
Discussing Ben Johnson's approach to starting from scratch in coaching.
“You guys are going to be able to build off this.”
Chicago Bears Future Prospects
2:59 to 6:11
Analyzing the Chicago Bears' potential for improvement based on team dynamics.
“We got the biggest thing all the way back up again.”
Puka Nakua's Draft Story
6:11 to 8:29
Exploring the Ravens' decision not to draft Puka Nakua and its implications.
“I love the way that's how I want my coach to talk.”
Critique on Media's Focus
8:29 to 11:15
Discussing media bias in covering player performances and team failures.
“with damn, the team that makes it to the Super Bowl, that means Seattle automatically makes it back to the NFC Championship game.”
Brandon Ayuk's Situation in San Francisco
15:04 to 19:06
Discussing the confusion surrounding Brandon Ayuk's absence and potential departure from the 49ers.
“Ocho, the 49ers' John Lynch says it's safe to say Brandon Ayuk will not be back in San Francisco.”
Analyzing NFL Receiver Trades
19:06 to 27:31
Exploring potential trades and teams that might be interested in high-profile receivers.
“money, to give$20 million plus back to the team just so you can get out, let you know how bad it is.”
Pro Bowl Wide Receivers Overview
27:31 to 28:00
Reviewing notable Pro Bowl wide receivers and their impact in the league.
“that will probably be available come free agency.”
Discussion on WR Talent and Contracts
28:00 to 29:50
The hosts discuss the potential of wide receivers entering the market and their future contracts.
“So that might be a situation, like I said, I think there are going to be some pretty good receivers on the market and I think, you know, you got JSN.”
Titans Hire Robert Sala as Head Coach
31:57 to 38:24
The hosts analyze the hiring of Robert Sala by the Titans and its implications for the team.
“The Titans are working on to finalize a deal to hire 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Sala as their next head coach.”
Challenges for the Titans' Offense
38:24 to 42:01
The discussion shifts to the Titans' offensive needs and the importance of player protection and weapons.
“Get some O-line, get some O-line, some O-linemen to protect Cam.”
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Meeting New People and Their Representation
42:01 to 43:01
Discussing how first impressions are often shaped by representation rather than reality.
“Hey, you know, that's how it be when you first meet somebody.”
C.J. Stroud's Reflection on His Season
43:03 to 45:56
C.J. Stroud shares insights on his performance and the impact of the Texans' defense.
“Stryer blamed the Texans' stellar defense for his struggles this season as he no longer has to be Superman on the field.”
Analyzing Stroud's Excuses for Turnovers
45:57 to 48:06
A debate on whether Stroud should attribute his turnovers to the defense's performance.
“I mean, I'm listening to what he's saying, but maybe the way you're regurgitating it to me, I'm expecting to say something like that.”
Critiquing Stroud's Accountability and Performance
48:07 to 54:44
Discussion on the accountability of players and the expectations of quarterbacks.
“No, help me understand who on this defense that's there this year wasn't there last year.”
The Kardashian Curse and C.J. Stroud
54:45 to 56:01
Exploring the idea of the 'Kardashian Curse' and its relevance to C.J. Stroud's career.
“Derrick Lewis, you know who Derrick Lewis is, right?”
Kardashian Curse and Derrick Lewis Banter
56:01 to 58:21
Learn about the humorous discussion surrounding the Kardashian curse and a light-hearted exchange about Derrick Lewis.
“We not going to have no outsiders, whether you're a fan of the team or not, disrespecting my young colleagues.”
Rashid's Transition to Seattle
58:59 to 1:02:21
Discover Rashid's journey from New Orleans to Seattle and how he adapted to his new team.
“God, I knew my cousin could figure it out.”
Game Strategy and Team Dynamics
1:02:21 to 1:04:54
Gain insights into the strategic plays and dynamics that contributed to Rashid's recent successes with the Seahawks.
“What has the transition been like for you from an offensive perspective, being able to transition from New Orleans to Seattle and being able to pick up the system?”
Life in Seattle: Food and Culture
1:04:54 to 1:07:36
Explore Rashid's experiences in Seattle, including local culture and cuisine.
“And he has an expectation for all of us, and that's to go out and dominate, man, and that's what we do.”
Transcript
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1:37Shannon Sharpe:Chicago's Ben Johnson was asked about building off this season. Take a listen to his answer. Yeah. You guys are going to be able to build off this. There is no building off of this. We go back to square one. We're back at the bottom again. And that's really all 32 teams. If you feel otherwise, you're probably missing the missing the big picture. You know, we're back at we got to start from scratch. We got to start from the fundamentals. You know, a lot of guys talked about how difficult this training camp was. I didn't feel like it was anything out of my ordinary. They know what the expectation is.
2:12We they know what the process is that we believe in as a coaching staff. And so I think more than anything else, they're going to know what they're getting themselves into. And yet we got to dig a little bit deeper. We got to work a little bit harder. We got to give a little bit more if we want to take this thing over the top. I mean, it's no different. You're trying to lose weight. You're trying to lose 50 pounds. The first 30 is the easiest 30. You know, the last 20, that's the hard. That's the hard part. And so we did a nice job this year, but it's not enough. We got to do more. I like what he said.
2:46I love what he said.
2:48Shannon Sharpe:I want to play for Ben Johnson now. My new favorite coach is Ben Johnson. Everything he said. But the one thing I like that he said is he told, we're not building off nothing. We starting from scratch. Yeah, build off what? Yeah, we starting from scratch. We got the biggest thing all the way back up again. I like it. I like it. That house don't stay up that you built last year. Absolutely not. They tear that is down. Absolutely not. And you start ground zero, a new foundation. All of it again. Yes, absolutely. But now you see why they've had some success this year. No, I see why. Yes, his thought process, that's why he talks to his team.
3:25Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. Oh, there's something we can build off of. Yeah. Build off what? What? Hey, the bear's in good hands for the next 10, 15 years, man. I totally agree. Ocho, I didn't build off nothing. I had to start all back over. Guess what, Ocho? Every year. Because that's what I did the year before the training. Ain't got nothing to do what I'm going to do to training this year. At all. If that was the case, I could just sit my ass in the house and go, hey, Hey, because I already built up that training. No, I had to start a new foundation again. Yeah. Hey, listen. Start building right back up.
3:58Shannon Sharpe:Okay, you start out gradually and just build up. Speaking of track and field, congratulations to Sydney McLaughlin Barone. She's expecting a child, her and her husband. Expecting a child this year. Okay, congrats, congrats, congrats, congrats. Hey, and Shelly, Mommy Rocket, if she came back and won world titles and can win a gold medal? Sydney can do it. Because I think, what, Sydney's 26? I think she's 26, have the baby this year. She got 27, and she got 28 for the Olympics. We good. Mm-hmm. But y 'all better be glad.
4:38Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all better be glad, because she's about, hey.
4:46Shannon Sharpe:Paulino and what's the lady from Buran? Nasser? Yeah. Ain't nobody else seeing her. Ain't nobody else seeing her. And they better be glad she left the hurdles because that was just like it had just gotten it wasn't even fair. Easy work. Easy work. Yeah. but uh i love the way ben johnson think i love the way he talks that's that's kind of what mike that's how mike was uh that last year ain't got nothing to do with this year bring your ass back in better shape than you came in this year expect to work a little harder than what you worked last year because we want better we want better results that what we did last year won't get the job done this year.
5:30Shannon Sharpe:Teams get better. So I don't know why you think build off what? No, you start at the bottom of the mountain. Even if you end your season on top of the mountain, you don't get to stay there. It ain't like Wimbledon. You know, Wimbledon used to win. If you won Wimbledon way back when, you came back as a champ. Everybody else fought. You just played the final match and you win. If you win, you're the champ again. Nah. You start first round, second round, third round, quarter, Simmons, and finals. No, that's how it's supposed to go. I love Ben Johnson. I love this thought process. Look, yeah, Ben, my new guy.
6:09Shannon Sharpe:Ben, my new guy. I love the way that's how I want my coach to talk. Don't be talking about, hey, we good or we going to build on something. Nah, we ain't finna build on nothing. What we finna do is start all over again and build this back up. ain't no building on, it's building back up. So it's going to be very interesting. And they got pieces, you know, they got their quarterback.
6:43Shannon Sharpe:They got a good running game. They got two good tight ends and Loveland and Cole Komet. I know everybody's upset at DJ Moore right now, but DJ Moore and Roman Dunsay, they got Zacchaeus. They got, look, offensive line is really good. now maybe go get a defensive lineman that can add some pressure on the other side of sweat. Yeah, don't forget Luther Burton there. Yeah, no, no, no. Luther Burton, yeah, they got received. They covered on offense. They covered on the offensive side of football. They did it on their offense, yeah. Jalen Johnson gets another year. You know, he came back, had that core muscle.
7:19Shannon Sharpe:So now he gets to work his way back in shape and get back on the field and get back to the level of playing that he's accustomed to playing at. But yeah, they – look, the one thing that Ben Johnson knows, NFC's not getting easier. Mm-mm. Oh, no. Now, San Francisco doesn't have all those injuries, okay? Doesn't look like the Rams going anywhere. Doesn't look like Seattle's going anywhere. Mm-hmm. Atlanta got two guys up for defensive rookie of the year. B. John Drake London what are they going to do with Kyle Pitts are they going to bring him back quarterback situation hey Tampa being being the mix Carolina look Carolina made the playoffs this year Detroit hired a new offensive coordinator Green Bay so the thing I think that Ben realizes that no, you can't build off.
8:22Shannon Sharpe:You got to start back up because these other teams are doing that. Getting better. Nobody picks up where they left off because if that's the case with damn, the team that makes it to the Super Bowl, that means Seattle automatically makes it back to the NFC Championship game. No. That ain't happening. The Rams make it all the way back. So damn, they picking up where they left off. Where'd that leave us?
8:48Shannon Sharpe:So I'm excited for Chicago. So Chicago is definitely up and coming. Ocho, speaking of Puka, according to Mike Graffalo, John Harbaugh badly wanted the Ravens to draft Puka Nakua back in 2023. But the front office went against his wishes. If he got his way, Puka Nakua would have been a Raven. That was the guy that John Harbaugh wanted badly for the Ravens to draft, and they didn't. Puka was the last pick of the fifth round. The Ravens took instead Caillou Blue Kelly. I guess, how you say it? Caillou, Caillou Blue Kelly. Cornerback. I like exactly where he's at. Yeah, I mean, see, look. I like exactly where he's at.
9:39Shannon Sharpe:The Ravens didn't have a coordinator like Sean McVay that has that kind of imagination. Just because somebody put up numbers over there, that don't mean he's going to put those numbers up in Baltimore. But he's not because the offense is completely different. Exactly. Completely different offense. So it definitely – man, scheme is not even close to being the same. So obviously I like where he's at. I like him. I do too. I mean, look, the one thing we know that Sean McVay can get to receive the ball. Oh, yeah. You remember Cooper Cup, that triple crown season? Now you follow that up. I mean, just think about it, Ocho.
10:13Shannon Sharpe:you get 1 ,700 yards, and that's still not the best season. That's not the best receiving season in the franchise history. That's crazy. You're still 200 yards short. Yeah. You're still almost 20 catches short. Mm-hmm. But no, if y 'all think Puka would have done that in Baltimore, you're high. Because first of all, they didn't have an offensive coordinator that has the imagination and the creativity that Sean McVay has. No.
10:46so no
10:50Shannon Sharpe:no I get it you know and it seems it seems it seems good now oh he wanted he wanted him so has there been anybody that he wanted they drafted that didn't pan out because everybody's willing to report the guys that they want that's panning out for somebody else but they never report the guys that they wanted and they got that didn't pan out. Pan out. That's a good one.
11:24Shannon Sharpe:Man.
11:29Shannon Sharpe:They need to stop, man. They really need to stop this. Man, and what you call him jumping on Keon Coleman like he the first pick in the draft. Like he the owner, Mr. Pagola. Oh, yeah. I'm like, hold on. So now Keon Coleman was the reason y 'all lost this game. It went from Josh Allen turning them all over four times. You having five turnovers to let, hey, let's dump on, you know what? Keon Coleman, low-hanging fruit. Let's pluck his ass. You notice they ain't say nothing about Josh now. No. Now you piss, hey, one thing, you piss that quarterback off if you want to. Nah, you leave that alone. But I don't know.
12:11Shannon Sharpe:you didn't have to say anything about Keon Coleman. Yeah, you did. Okay, hey, yes, we need him to play better. We brought him in to be a number one receiver, and that is the expectation level that we have for him. But to mention him and talk about, oh, Brandon didn't want him, we didn't want him, that was the coach's decision. That's unnecessary. Totally unnecessary. Unnecessary. Stop trying to pile on. We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm going to ask that man for directions. Hi there! We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds. Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road.
12:50Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out.
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15:04Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, the 49ers' John Lynch says it's safe to say Brandon Ayuk will not be back in San Francisco. John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan spoke a little about what happened to Ayuk. Let's take a listen to what they had to say, Ocho. Have you been able to determine why he was so upset, why he wasn't showing up, and just any background you can give on that? I wish I knew. Yeah, can't help you there. Sorry. Yeah. Has there been a line of communication with him? There was, but not anymore. At what point did that snap?
15:40Well, when I'm coaching, I don't hang out in the training room at all. So I don't see guys much that way. But I'd say it officially stopped for me when last time I tried to get a hold of him and couldn't. And then tried a couple more times and still couldn't. and then that matched everyone else that was trying to get a hold of him and couldn't and eventually there's not much of an explanation because it's really hard for us and anyone else to understand and that's why it's something i've never seen in 22 years of coaching so just it's unfortunate and that's it's confusing because it's confusing for all of us so
16:21Shannon Sharpe:but it eventually becomes it is what it is and you try as hard as you can to fix something that you don't understand um but it's not like we understand it very well still but eventually you understand that it's not going to change and you got to move on with your football team which is always the most important thing
16:43Shannon Sharpe:i've never seen it out y 'all i don't know maybe you you maybe in your circle you played uh you know i was in a couple years you know decade before you and you stayed about seven eight years after I left. So maybe you've seen something like this, but I've never seen anything like this. No, I've never seen anything like this either. And obviously we're not going to get the answer from the coaches or the GM. Obviously everything they say is going to be PC. If we want to know what the answer is, if we want to know what the issues were, we'd have to talk to Brandon Aiyuk. And at some point I'm not sure if he's the type that will voice the issues and concerns that he had there.
17:16Obviously he wants to move on. Them saying he's not going to be there. Well, hell, we could have told you that when he decided to give back 24-hour whatever mean he decided to give back by not showing up so he really wants to get out of that situation something went wrong I don't know where it went wrong but whatever it is listen both sides need to move on I'm excited to see where Brandon Ayuk is going I'm excited to also see how well he's recovered from rehab to see how far along he is because he is one hell of a player when he when it's time to go so I'm hoping he's he's not get carried away now he's not a top five
17:49Shannon Sharpe:receiver. I'm not sure he's a top-tier receiver. He's a good receiver. He's a good receiver. That's good enough. I can't compliment the man about being good. You said, hey, I said he's a really good receiver. He's a really good receiver. I didn't say he was Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson. I'm just saying, you know, he nice. But this don't make sense to me, Ocho. Right. Okay. You're injured. All you got to do is go rehab and leave. Okay. The general manager tried to call you. Your position coach try to call you. The head coach you can't find the time to call back. You just stop showing up. There's a reason why.
18:25We just don't know the reason why. He wouldn't just do it for no reason. Of course they're not going to state what that reason is. The only thing he has to do is get treatment. He don't have to come to meetings. You're not listening to me. I am listening. There's more to it than what they're going to say. You're creating a scenario and making it in its simplest form and all he has to do. There are other things that factor in to him not wanting to come back. Him not answering phone calls. Him not answering text messages. Him saying, fuck y 'all, take that$20 million back. I don't want it. I just want out of this situation for an NFL player, as much as we love getting paid, as much as we love money, to give$20 million plus back to the team just so you can get out, let you know how bad it is.
19:15Shannon Sharpe:It's got to be. But I'm trying to figure out how he got bad. He got hurt. Now, maybe, you know what, Ocho? Maybe it was a situation. You know how long they waited to sign the contract because, you know, he wanted to go somewhere else and then at the last second, they ended up doing the deal. And you know what happens, Ocho? A lot of times when you wait for a period of time, the player feels some type of way. Even though you give him his money, he's like, why I had to wait this long? Yeah, yeah. I shouldn't have had to wait. They'll let you know how they really feel about you when it's time to get paid, boy.
19:50Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, like I said, you're right. I will concede this to you. I don't know if we'll ever get the answer. I don't know if Brandon and I could ever speak on it. I'm sure he will. I'm sure he will at some point. You think so? Yeah, absolutely. I'm definitely anxious to see what he has to say. It probably won't be right now because he wants to stay low, keep it quiet until he gets to his next destination. But at some point, he will voice the reasons on why things were so bad. Of course. Yeah, I want to get out too, but I'm going to get that money on the way out. I know Ocho going to get that money on the way out.
20:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Oh, once this thing become guaranteed, y 'all know I won't up out of here, right? But I got that money guaranteed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is. Mm-hmm. irreconcilable differences. Yeah. That's what it always comes down to. It's crazy, man. Yeah. I've never seen nothing like this before, huh? No, never. Yeah, never. Same. Never. Never. And I've seen guys really pissed at an organization. Yeah. I've seen guys get cut for not hustling and things like that. but back then, Ocho, we weren't dealing with the kind of money that these guys are dealing with. You know, back then when we played,$3-4 million was a lot of damn money.
21:17Shannon Sharpe:You're talking about $26 million,$27 million. Man. Man, go ahead. He told him, man, go ahead and take that back, man. I'm good. I'm gone. And remember, Ocho, it was reported that he told the union, nah, don't even fight it. Don't even worry about it. Don't worry about it. Hey, that's when you know you're fed up, boy. Yeah. I'm fed up, but my bank account ain't. Nah, bro. I need to get all that. And then, knowing that there are places that need receivers, I don't know, do you swap him and A.J. Brown? Ooh. Aren't both of them number 11? Yeah. Just to A. I like the way you're thinking now AJ Brown to go crazy over there with God damn with Mr.
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22:14Irrelevant what? what? man him and Purdy are there cook boy ooh that's a good one I like that I like that I like that even better than my idea of him going to the Ravens
22:33Shannon Sharpe:ooh AJ Yeah. Look, I think AJ would be great anywhere other than Philly. But, of course, you know, people being naive as well. Oh, salary cap, dead cap, too much money. Yeah, okay. Y 'all do not understand this business, obviously. Look, Pittsburgh need a receiver. Buffalo definitely need a receiver. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Baltimore could probably lose a guy outside, the Raiders. So I think they'll have some takers. I think both teams, I think the Eagles and the 49ers will have takers. Yeah. I do. You definitely want to see where he is first, though. I mean, teams are going to want to see where Brandon Ayuki is.
23:20At some point, he's going to have to start putting videos out, showing teams that he is okay, that he's able to run and stop.
23:26Shannon Sharpe:No, they're going to bring him in for a physical. All that other stuff. they don't want to see you doing all that they want to test that ankle they want their orthopedics to tug on that knee and shake that knee and see if they have the stability that it needs they're going to want to see all that
23:49Shannon Sharpe:it's just a different time now Ocho it's just a different time it is
23:59Shannon Sharpe:to give up, to give that back. And like I said, something transpired. I don't know what happened. Maybe something was said. Maybe it was, you know, because obviously he was upset. Because remember, we had him on. Yeah. Yeah. We had him on. Yeah. Now that I think about it. He might come back and tell us what happened. well we definitely gonna reach out yeah you know but uh we look at Buffalo you look at Baltimore you look at Pittsburgh you look at the Raiders uh I saw some report that AJ back to the Titans I'm like I don't think AJ want to go back to the Titans uh absolutely not Absolutely not.
24:52I like the same thing.
24:53Shannon Sharpe:Cleveland could use a receiver. No, don't send him over there either. No. But what I'm just saying, I'm just thinking about teams that could use a receiver. Yeah, let's send him somewhere where he's going to be happy, please. Don't do him dirty. But normally the places that go make you happy, Ocho, they got to want you. Because what happens? You got to want the girl that wants you, not the girl that you want. Well, the 49ers are definitely going to want him. That ain't no problem. No. Oh, I thought you was talking about it. I thought you was talking about it. I thought you were talking about IU.
25:20Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, okay, my bad. I was saying, yes, a lot of times they say date the girl that you want. I mean the girl that wants you, not the girl that you want. Yeah, I mean. Because that's probably going to lead to the happiness. So I was saying a lot of times where we actually want to go might not necessarily want us to be there. Uh-uh. So we're going to have to find a place that really want us. it's like oh you really want me well then I want you too
25:53but
25:55Shannon Sharpe:we'll see how that we'll see the Chiefs the Titans
26:11I mean
26:14Shannon Sharpe:I know Calvin Ridley is coming back but is that enough But he's coming back off an injury as well. Correct. And he's a little older than what he was last year. Yeah. Two players coming back off injury? Eh.
26:32Shannon Sharpe:But here, Ocho, you got to understand. Uh-huh. Brandon, I, you rehabbed a whole year. He didn't play. So he should be Gucci. Think about it. He got hurt the year before last. He rehabbed this whole season. I guess what supposedly, allegedly rehabbed, something went wrong. I don't know what he did. But I'm just saying. So he should be good. He really should be good. Yeah. And we're going to find out now. Yeah. But you know, Ocho, man, people think you could just take a whole year off and just pick right up where you left off. It don't work like that for a high-level professional. No. You got to play.
27:15Yeah. I mean, that's the only way to get yourself back in the rhythm is by playing. And not by yourself either.
27:26Shannon Sharpe:So, Chad, we try to list some teams that we think would – that A.J., Brandon Ayuk, some of the big-name receivers that will probably be available come free agency. The trade opened up, I think, March, probably like the first week in March is when the free agency period will hit. the new year starts and that's when you can start. But you know, you have that, what do they call that period? Which one? Yeah, the tampering where you can actually have contact with the guys. Right. So that might be a situation, like I said, I think there are going to be some pretty good receivers on the market and I think, you know, you got JSN.
28:13Shannon Sharpe:It's probably, well, you got JSN. I mean, think about it. You got JSN and you got Puka. And then you got DeBronco. I mean, every team, I mean, JSN is going to the Pro Bowl, first-team All-Pro. Puka, Pro Bowl, first-team All-Pro. Both of those guys are unanimous selections to the All-Pro team. And Cortland Sutton. So three of the four teams got a Pro Bowl wide receiver on their roster. Yeah. and all Tay did was lead the league in touchdown catches. He's the first guy to lead a league in touchdown catches with three different teams. Different teams. And he missed like three games.
28:56Shannon Sharpe:So clearly he still has some juice in the tank and I expect him to be back next year.
29:06Shannon Sharpe:but Puka gonna get a monster contract yeah Puka gonna get a monster contract JSN gonna overlap that but this is only JSN his only second year he'll be next year next year I'm saying he gonna overlap that yeah yeah yeah
29:24Shannon Sharpe:I agree oh the JSN need a wide receiver Man, now don't send nobody. Jazz need a lot of things. Don't send nobody. Wide receiver, some offensive linemen. Don't do it. Some DBs. Don't do it. Yeah, the Jazz need a lot. They need to get my boy Garrett Wilson out of there, man. We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm going to ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds. Well, you're going to take a left at the old oak tree at this here road. Nah, I'm just kidding. Let me get my phone out. How is there signal out here? T-Mobile and U.S. Cellular are coming together, so the network out here is huge.
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32:05Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, we have breaking news. The Titans are working on to finalize a deal to hire 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Sala as their next head coach. Sala spent Monday in Tennessee with the Titans, and the two sides impressed each other enough to move forward. We knew something. It was trending in this direction. When they moved it, they said they pushed it back because he was supposed to do the interview via Zoom on Sunday. They pushed it back to Monday because they wanted to do this in person. That was the first hit. They were kind of leaning towards Robert Sala. So I'm not surprised by this. I think he'll do great defense, but everything is predicated.
32:43Shannon Sharpe:Who's going to be your offensive coordinator? who's going to be in your young quarterbacks there. Because we know he can dial up defense, and he's got a linchpin. He's got a guy that you can build a defense around, and that's Jeffrey Simmons. Yeah. I mean, listen, I've played around with just the thought of Jeffrey Simmons being down in Cincinnati, but I think that shit might have sailed right now. I don't think the Titans are letting Jeffrey go. But Robert Sala is a great addition, a great head coach, a defense of mine, and I'm sure he's going to get those boys playing up to par and up to speed.
33:17On the offensive end, Cam Ward being the future of that organization, Calvin Ridley coming back. I still think they need some more weapons. Pollard is good, but I'm sure they can use someone else, you know, back there in the backfield. But they need another receiver. They need another dog to go along with Calvin Ridley who's coming off of injury. So we're not sure what he's going to look like. They need another security blanket for Cam Ward out there. So, I mean, the Titans are doing what they need to do. I'm sure Robert Sala going to, I'm not sure how much control and say he has in the roster and wants to pick as far as the draft and then offseason acquisitions goes.
33:57But they can make a change. They can make a change. They might be the team similar to this year's Carolina and Bears. You know, Bears, you know, choices that I went before the season started on teams to look out for. it could be Tennessee next year depending on what they do in the offseason and what they do in the draft.
34:16Shannon Sharpe:Robert Sala would now be joining his third AFC South team of his career. His first job was with the Texans from 2005 to 2010 and he also spent time with the Jags from 2014 to 2016 as the linebackers coach and now he's the Tennessee Titans head coach. Texas head coach D 'Amico So, Ryans and New Tennessee Titans head coach Robert Sala, both were former 49ers defensive coordinators, are now head coaches in the same division and will square off twice a year. They came, the Shanahan staff, they were all on staff. I don't know if D 'Amico was on the staff with Kubiak when he was in Houston. because Kuhn was the head coach at Houston, and Kyle was his offensive coordinator.
35:07Shannon Sharpe:But a lot of these guys with Kyle when he was in Washington, Sean McVay, Mike McDaniel, Raheem, all those guys. So I like this. So do you believe Robert Sala is the right hire for the Tennessee Titans? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, he's a defensive mind. And like you did say, they can build defensively. Great, because you have that nucleus down there in Jeffrey Simmons. I'm more focused on what they do offensively. I'm more focused on what they do offensively. Yes, I agree. I'm with you. Yeah, and surrounding Cam Ward with more weapons. More weapons he could work with. With Calvin Ridley coming back off injury, we don't know what Calvin Ridley were going to get.
35:54so I'm hoping with the offseason acquisitions that they do bring in and what they do in the draft is very very important for the growth of Cam Ward defensively I think they're going to be fine especially when you get a coach like Robert Sala coming in coming in that building I think they're
36:08Shannon Sharpe:going to be okay yeah I I agree I think they probably need some offensive line help too because Cam Ward was sacking a lot where did Cam Ward finish as far as sacks because I don't care who your offensive coordinator you can't protect the quarterback you can't win in this league. It's hard. It's really hard when your quarterback getting punished.
36:34Shannon Sharpe:Robert Sala, he was tied for the most sacks in the NFL. So that's where you start, Ocho. He got sacked 55 times. And remember, he missed the game, right? Or he got hurt the last game of the season. Okay. Okay, so 55 sacks, you ain't going to make a living. You ain't going to play long. You keep getting 55 times in the season. You like that. Yeah, I mean, so I was right. I was right. Okay. Solid Jets tenure. He had Zach Wilson. He had Aaron Rodgers. But I think he needed this year to rehab his image. Right. Because it's hard to go from the Jets, head coach, and just go get another job. Yeah. Most of the time when people leave the Jets, they ain't really going to many other places.
37:30Not at all. But I think everyone deserves a second chance if you have to coach at the Jets. If you got to coach at the Jets and that organization that hasn't done anything worth a damn in a very long time, you deserve a second chance.
37:45Shannon Sharpe:I think Parcells left the Jets and ended up going to coach the Cowboys.
37:54This was before he came to Miami.
37:55Shannon Sharpe:Coach Belichick was going to be the head coach because he was supposed to take over for Coach Parcells, but he didn't want to do that because he knows the Jets was on some bull jive, and they ended up having to trade a first-round pick to get Coach Belichick to go to New England, which was the best first-round draft pick the Patriots have ever spent. Mm-hmm. That is the best draft pick that they've used, and it wasn't for a player. It was to get Coach Belichick. And it worked out perfect, boy. Yes. Get some O-line, get some O-line, some O-linemen to protect Cam. I agree. You need another receiver to go opposite of Ridley.
38:34Shannon Sharpe:Hopefully he can come back to what he was. Probably you get your running back, Ocho, probably in the third or the fourth round. Yeah. Got some good ones out there now. And you got to get some defense. You got to get somebody to go along with Simmons. Hey, LeJarrius Sneed should be healthy coming back this year, huh? Yes, yes, yes. You get him to play like he played when he was at Kansas City, you know, get him back right, man, they should be fine. Oh, yeah, Rex Ryan went to the Bills. But Rex has success. Chance Rex went to back-to-back AFC Championship games. Because remember that year, he knocked out Peyton and he knocked out Fatah.
39:18Shannon Sharpe:And they ended up losing to Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship game. That's when they had that crazy defense over there with the Jets. Oh, yeah. They had Crowe and Revis, Bart Scott. I think they had Muhammad Wilkinson. Hey, that front four they had there? I think Calvin Pace was on that team, too. Boy. David, what was that linebacker, David? Was it David Baker? David, how? They had a linebacker, number 52. I don't remember. They had some thumpers. They had some thumpers, and they could get after the quarterback. Quarterback, yeah. They would run the football with Thomas Jones and those guys, and Damian Woody and Mango, rest his soul.
40:04Shannon Sharpe:They did a great job of mauling people.
40:11But the Jets, do we know who the Jets hired?
40:17Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Aaron Glenn is still there. He's still there. He can't have another season like he had last year. No, no, he can't. Because you know the lease is short. You know the lease is short. You see what happened with Raheem. You see what, hell, McDermott, I mean Harbaugh. And they want instant gratification. They want instant success. And that's not what you're going to get. I mean, those owners over there, especially with the Jets, you got to learn patience. You got to learn patience because in order for the head coach to have success, you got to have the product on the field. Right. You think about all these coaches that are having success and winning all these games.
40:55And I mean, you say, oh, it's coaching. But coaching, you can only coach so much. You still need the players to be able to perform. You still need the players to be able to execute the X's and O's. The better the players you got, the easier it is to implement a game plan and when it's time to play somebody. I agree. Now you got players, you got to do certain things to help them get open. You got to hide their weaknesses. That's difficult, man. Yeah. Then you get exposed as a coach because look what I'm working with. And the coach can't say that.
41:32Shannon Sharpe:it's um
41:36Shannon Sharpe:but I think the thing is Ocho is that you oversell to get the job you make all these promises I can coach this guy I can get so much better than this and blah blah blah and then the owner's like what happened you said you could bro I was just saying that I was selling myself to you I really couldn't do it not with what you got. Hey, you know, that's how it be when you first meet somebody. Uh-uh. You know, you're not meeting the actual person. You're meeting their representation. I'm trying to put my, I'm trying to put my best foot forward to make sure I don't lose the opportunity. I want this job as a Jets coach.
42:18Shannon Sharpe:Actually, that's your agent. They're meeting your agent. Oh, yeah. Because that person is telling you everything what's so great about the person that you really haven't met yet. Come on now. we're going to have this conversation at a later date time but I'm just saying when you meet somebody that's the agent because you know how an agent sells whether you in Hollywood whether you are football basketball baseball or whatever the case may be your agent will always tell you great things about said individual that's looking to get this job it's all about representation and anytime you meet someone new you are meeting a representative.
42:57Always.
43:03Shannon Sharpe:In his exit interview this week, C.J. Stryer blamed the Texans' stellar defense for his struggles this season as he no longer has to be Superman on the field. Ocho, take a listen to what this young man had to say. I think just the turnovers. I haven't really been prone to turnovers in my career, especially the timely turnovers You know, where, you know, like I told y 'all before, I've really, you know, been on I've been on some great teams my whole career where a lot of them were, you know, offensive droving, you know, and like, you know, playing for Coach Day where, you know, we're taking shots and all these.
43:36Shannon Sharpe:And then, you know, like being on this team, you know, where, you know, we're more full everywhere, you know, where it's offense, defense and special teams where, you know, defense is, you know, is making a bunch of plays. So, you know, this year was a step for me where, like, I didn't have to be Superman all the time. And I'm still growing in that. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I appreciate my teammates for taking a lot of pressure, you know, off of my plate. But also, you know, they do know that I can make those plays. So, you know, I'm appreciative of them having that perspective.
44:04Shannon Sharpe:And I feel like I've grown, you know, in that way of, like, you know, taking what's there, you know, in ways where, you know, I would have taken a shot there or just, you know, take care of the ball some other ways. But, you know, I just seen some growth in my footwork, you know, in the pocket, you know, trusting my guys, staying in the pocket, not just running around, you know, but, you know, staying strong and firm. So I think I made a step in that area as well. But, you know, always things are improving and I'll do that. Yeah, I mean. This is AI. This has got to be AI. Hey, let's check and see if this is AI.
44:38Shannon Sharpe:Because there ain't no way in hell. Which part? Which part? Which part? The whole thing is AI. I mean, from what I just heard, him reflecting on some of the things where he has room for improvement. He said the turnovers. No, he said the reason why is because of his defense was so great. Okay, I must have missed that part. You want us to replay it for you? Yeah, he must have said that. Can we rewrite that right quick? At the very beginning?
45:10I think just the turnovers.
45:11Shannon Sharpe:You know, like I haven't really been prone to turnovers in my career, especially like, you know, the timely turnovers, you know, where, you know, like I told y 'all before, I've really, you know, been on, I've been on some great teams, you know, my whole career where a lot of them were, you know, offensive droving, you know, and like, you know, playing for Coach Day where, you know, we're taking shots and all these. And then, you know, like being on this team, you know, where, you know, we're more full everywhere, you know, where it's offense, defense and special teams. Well, you know, defense is, you know, is making a bunch of plays.
45:42So, you know, this year was a was a step for me where like I don't have to be Superman all the time. And I'm still growing in that. You know what I'm saying?
45:52Take it away, Ojo. Wait, I'm maybe I'm tripping up or maybe some role in my goddamn ifs. I mean, I'm listening to what he's saying, but maybe the way you're regurgitating it to me, I'm expecting to say something like that. But, I mean, what I got from it is it's one of the few times I didn't have to be Superman this year because my defense is as great as they were. So that's why you turned the ball over? No. Obviously, you heard what he said, huh? I have room for improvement. I have to stop turning the ball over. And I like that he's reflecting on some of the things that he can continue to grow on.
46:28I heard that part. I think the reason why he turned the ball over was because of his defense, because he knew they could get it back for him. Oh, that's a little bit excessive right there, huh?
46:40Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, with that defense, you take risk that you normally wouldn't take. Wouldn't take. Right, right, right, right, right, right. But, oh, wait a minute. Think about how careful Dak Prescott has to be with the football, knowing his defense can't get it back for him. Right. Yeah. Okay, I see what you're saying. I see you going with it. I see you going with it. I like it. I like it. Look, the only season that he really didn't turn the ball over was his rookie season. Yeah. Because his rookie season, he had five picks. The next year, he had 12. Mm-hmm. Now, he had five interceptions in two games in the postseason with five fumbles.
47:11Yeah.
47:11Shannon Sharpe:He had eight picks, but he missed three games and half another one. So, are we sure he doesn't turn the ball? Are we sure? Are you willing to go out and limb, Ochoa? Yeah. I mean, we watched the game, Monk. We saw it. We saw it. We watched the game. I'm saying, are you sure he doesn't turn the ball over? Because that's not what his resume says. His resume says his rookie year, he's absolutely right. He didn't turn the ball over. But I look at his second and third year, I mean, the numbers would disagree. Agree, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. He knows he got a lot of work. Excuse me, my bad.
47:45Young boy knows he got a lot of work to do, huh? He has a lot of work to do, and I like the fact that he can stand up in front of the camera, and he can take accountability for it as well.
47:54Shannon Sharpe:Okay, you don't have to do all that talking. Just say, you know what, I need to do better. Don't blame your defense for you not having to put the Superman cape on. Hold on. Was Danelle Hunter there last year? Was Stingley there last year? Was Will Anderson Jr. there last year?
48:13Shannon Sharpe:Shazier? Tua Tua? Petrie? No, help me understand who on this defense that's there this year wasn't there last year. Yeah. I don't know. What's rankings there? Look and see. I want to see if rankings were there last year. If Tim Settle Jr., Mario Edwards Jr., I want to know. Because I believe those other guys that I mentioned, I believe they were there. So I'm going to find out what guys weren't there on that defense this year that weren't there last year.
48:50Shannon Sharpe:Woo!
49:01you thought it was bad the way he gave the interview though Rankins wasn't there last year
49:10Shannon Sharpe:what about Settle Jr. or Mario Edwards Jr. Mario Edwards Jr. okay he was there hold on Mario Edwards Jr. ain't the former number one pick son, is it?
49:30Mario. No, no, no, no. Oh, but I'm finna say, god damn time flying.
49:35Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. This Mario Edwards is and that was Mario Williams. Williams. Yeah, okay. My bad, my bad, my bad.
49:47Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, if you don't have to be Superman, you shouldn't struggle because I don't need you to take a necessary risk. I don't need you to put that cape on. You see how it doesn't juxtapose? You see. I'm thinking, well, I don't have to be Superman. It should be easy. Hand the ball off, make a few plays here or there, got a defense that can back me up, knowing if I don't turn the ball over, the likelihood of a team driving 70, 80 yards on us, we good. Not good yet, we good. Yeah. I don't get it, but I don't get.
50:29He's reflecting on the entirety of his season in a small clip, more so mentioning some of the things he can do better and some of the areas where he needs work. But what does his defense have to do with him not having to be Superman?
50:43Shannon Sharpe:And how does that equate to him turning? I'm thinking if you don't have to be Superman, you don't have to take the unnecessary risk. Right. I mean, Josh Allen has to be Superman and he had to be. And he guess what he did, Ocho? He turned the ball over. If you're saying you don't have to be Superman, I'm just trying to figure out how turnovers come along with that. Right. Because you don't have to take the risk. You don't have to put the ball in harm's way because you don't have to worry about an offense outscoring you because the likelihood of them, they scoring 28, 31 points on that defense. Not happening.
51:18Shannon Sharpe:without pick six scooping scores or return yeah that ain't happening yeah that ain't happening
51:28Shannon Sharpe:i i just i don't know i i just think the thing sometimes that you we we talk too much yeah just a in that situation uh-huh i'm just disappointed how the season turned out uh there are some things that I need to work on, but don't say you struggled because of the defense was so good and you didn't have to be Superman. You only really Superman one year. Joe, you see, it goes back to that rookie season. I don't, I don't think he meant it in the way, in the, in the way you're, how am I supposed to take it? tell me, I want you to break it. I want you to explain it to me. If I was French fry.
52:09I mean, I mean, I think maybe we're hearing it in two different ways. I think he just, listen, I made mistakes. He made mistakes in the past.
52:18Shannon Sharpe:What does his defense have to do with that, though? Him making mistakes. That's like, Ocho, man, Ocho, well, I did this because Unk made a mistake. What does my mistake have to do with you? What does the defense being great have to do with him turning the ball over? Okay, explain that to me. Him turning the ball over, what does that defense have to do with that? I have no idea. I have no idea. I'm just listening to the part where he said on the things that he needs to work on. That's all. That's all. I understand him mentioning the defense as good as they were. It shouldn't have looked like it did those last two games.
52:56It shouldn't have. Because we said that on the show before they even played the first playoff game. If they keep the ball out of harm's way, they got a superior chance. Absolutely. Superior. and they should be playing this weekend if there were no turnovers, honestly.
53:14Shannon Sharpe:Or one. Just don't give up five, Ocho. Ocho, the man had five fumbles and five picks in two games. Yeah. Now, granted, they jumped on him because he jumped on a couple of them in Pittsburgh. But, Ocho, you can't turn up. What did he have, four picks in the first half? Yeah. Four picks in the first half?
53:42Shannon Sharpe:defense Will Anderson Jr. says you gave it to him I'm going to get it back for you he said I'm going to get it right back to him though
53:55Shannon Sharpe:sometimes when things go good you say little when they go bad you say even less he had to talk he had to talk today so he had to say something You know, most of the time we complain about players not stepping up to the mic and not talking when things don't go well. Disappointing how the season went. And just as it. And I'll be better. And then leave. Your struggles, you don't mention your struggles because of the success of the defense. I mean, Ocho, the man been in the league three years. Name the time that you've heard somebody say C.J. Stryle put on that Superman cape. I've heard it with Lamar.
54:36Shannon Sharpe:I've heard it with Josh Allen. I've heard it with my homeboy. I've heard it with Joe Burrow. Tell me the time you've heard somebody say that about CJ. Back to CJ Stroud. Derrick Lewis, you know who Derrick Lewis is, right? UFC? Black Beast? Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, um, matter of fact, I want to fight him. Oh, shit. Derrick Lewis says CJ Stroud might be cursed. Let's take a listen to the reasons, Ocho, why he says or why he thinks what he thinks. Okay. What moves would you like to see the Texans make for next season? I guess we got to see what's going on with CJ. I think ever since we seen him show up with Amber Rose at the softball game a few years ago and Kim Kardashian and all that, I'm like, man, it might be like a curse for him.
55:25I don't mean, I don't, listen, man, you know, man, man.
55:29Shannon Sharpe:I didn't, I didn't know, I didn't know you were going to say that, Ocho. Yeah, that, that, I don't like that. So just for that, hey, tell Derrick Lewis, man, he got to see me. You hear me, Unc? Like, I'm missing. I mean, his personal life off the field ain't got nothing to do with on the field. There ain't no goddamn curse. Things just didn't go well. He didn't play well. He knows that. He took accountability for that. So now, Derrick Lewis, boy, you got to see me at least three rounds. Three rounds. I don't even know, Ocho, you'll go around. Hey, Unc, let me tell you something. One thing about it, right?
56:04Now, we can talk about NFL players. We can do that. We not going to have no outsiders, whether you're a fan of the team or not, disrespecting my young colleagues.
56:16Shannon Sharpe:He just said he'd think that there might be, Ocho, this is not the first time that you've heard about the Kardashian curse. It's not. Hey, come on. We not doing that. I'm not saying there's any validity to it, but let's not pretend that you haven't heard about it. Yeah, but I don't believe in all them superstitions. Oh, Joe, you got to realize he's a Houstonian. Hey, you know what, Unc? What? You making it worse for Derrick Lewis because the more you talk about it, the more I'm going to beat his ass. I'm for real. Man, we got to go down to Houston, man. Who? Me and you. Shit, me. What the hell you say?
56:55I ain't going nowhere, boy. We ain't going to Houston? That's the devil's playground. I just got saved two months ago. I just got saved.
57:04Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I got my pig fork out back.
57:10Hey, oh, hold on, hold on. So Derek Lewis, he in Houston? Yeah, he from Houston. Yeah, I'm going to have to go see him, boy. I'm going to have to go see him. Hey, they got, where he trained at?
57:23Shannon Sharpe:You know, he got, they fight Saturday here. He fighting Costa. In Vegas? Yes. Okay. Okay, I'm going to let him... Hey, chat, y 'all do me a favor. Tell Derek Lewis I wish him good luck against Costa, Costa, whoever he got to fight. But after that, after he fight Costa, Costa, and win and do whatever he needs to do, you got to see me, boy. Octagon, boxing ring, MMA, wrestling, on the ground, groundwork, pounding, man, whatever you want to do. You ain't finna talk about Stroud like that, boy. Yeah. See, sometimes when the big dudes, You know, they feel safe being able to comment like that. And it ain't no pushback because everybody's scared of them.
58:06So it takes somebody like me to kind of set the record straight. Like you ain't finna just be able to say what you want to say in front of the camera.
58:20Shannon Sharpe:Man, there go my dog right there. She. All right. We got a very special guest joining us. The game against the Rams, he got it started. The punt return got the Seahawks going, and this week he ended the game 13 seconds into the game because the 49ers were never able to recover. He got acquired via trade on November the 4th. It might be the best trade that has happened in a very, very long time. Here he is, the outstanding return guy for the Seattle Seahawks, Rashid Shaheed. Rashid, how you doing, bro? You muted. You muted. You muted, bro. Yeah, yeah. There we go. See? I know my cousin. My cousin.
59:08Shannon Sharpe:God, I knew my cousin could figure it out.
59:14Okay. She was good. She was good. What? Man, I'm here, man, just watching you, man, with a smile on my face every time I see. Hey, tell me what that feeling is like. Obviously, to go from New Orleans, things were, eh, it wasn't what you would like. You get over there, down there to Seattle. Man, what does it feel like to be the reason and part of the reason for the success that y 'all have been having lately? It's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. I've enjoyed my time here in Seattle so far, man. The way the city, the team has embraced me, it made the transition so smooth. And it's been nothing but a great time, man.
59:53So shout out to my coaches and my teammates, man. It's been a hell of a ride so far.
59:59Shannon Sharpe:That's dope. That's live. To go from New Orleans and now you're one game away. I mean, you watched the Super Bowl growing up as a kid. And now you're one game away from being in that game. And as Ochoa said, you jump-started it with that punt return against the Rams. Now, we don't know. You could have gone on the road and still have a level of success. but the road would have probably been a lot more difficult because instead of playing two games and getting to the Super Bowl, you'd have had to play three games. And then as I mentioned in the, in the lead in you ended that game 13 seconds against 49ers because once you returned that kick, it was over game was over.
1:00:39Shannon Sharpe:You could, you saw it on this sideline. You saw it, their body language change. It was over from that point. So now what made, what did the, the coach call you? You had a white return, a middle wedge. What did the coach call? And when did you see, like, I can get this house call? Yeah, that specific return on the Rams, we kind of knew that their left side was kind of their weak side. And we called the left return at a perfect time. Man, shout out to my special teams coach. He's a genius. And we made the play work. And as soon as I broke through, kind of I made the cut of the field. And I knew I could crib it.
1:01:18Shannon Sharpe:and the 49ers also because i mentioned the rams on that thursday night you guys were behind the whole night it was like when you returned that punt it was like it was i mean just like everybody got energized and in the 49ers game the kickoff you know bro i'm like 13 seconds the game's over i mean normally you're like we're gonna play but they never they were never able to recover and you've been doing your thing also. They hand you the ball. They throw you the ball. They're using you like you always envisioned, and they used you early like that in your career in New Orleans. But now to get an opportunity to go to play where you're being used on a team that's really good with a chance to get to the Super Bowl.
1:02:01Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, these are the opportunities that you kind of dream about as a player growing up. I mean, to be in this game coming up, it's going to be like a dream. It's going to step on the field, man. It's going to be all the lights are going to be on. I'm going to be excited. Everybody's going to be excited. These are the games that you worked so hard for. So it's just a blessing to be a part of this team, man. This team has worked so hard to get to this point, and we learned this. Yeah. What has the transition been like for you from an offensive perspective, being able to transition from New Orleans to Seattle and being able to pick up the system?
1:02:35Has it been difficult? Is everything still easy, the terminology? Yeah. How is it? It's been smooth. Thankfully, I came into a system that I'm pretty familiar with with New Orleans last year. I had Coach Coop with him in New Orleans for about seven games. So it took me about a week to kind of hear the language, get the formations right. And once you get the formations, everything kind of just flows. And it's been a smooth transition, yeah.
1:02:59Shannon Sharpe:So where were you when you got the call, Rasheed? Who told you? I mean, did you see it scrolling on the media? So where were you when you got the call that you were no longer going to be a New Orleans Saints and you was headed to the Pacific Northwest to be a Seattle Seahawk? Crazy story. So I was pulling in to the Saints facility. I was on my way to get some body work done, to get them to tubs, you know what I'm saying, on my off day. And I get the call as I'm pulling in. And it was my financial advisor who called me before anybody else. And he kind of said, he said, what did he say? he said uh there's no finance there's no um state tax in seattle i'm like what are you talking about and then he kind of broke the news he's like oh you don't know he told me so that that was my first you know introduction to all this and it was so many emotions it was so many you know so much going on in my head but you know you ain't gonna get no work you're like what hell i'm gonna go this last i'm gonna go get this free last work i'm gonna get the cold tub get me get some pd Yeah.
1:04:01Well, they said I had to have my bags packed and the range of dough in like four hours, so I didn't have no time to say my goodbye. I had to go.
1:04:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, that's dope. Man, that's unbelievable. So now you get there and you mentioned like you had Clint. I've known Clint. His dad was my quarterback and my offensive coordinator in Denver. So I've known him since he's like seven, eight years old. Yeah. And to see how he's able to attack you guys with JSN and yourself and all those guys. You run the football. What's it been like? Because like you said, you had him for a little while. You had him for like seven games when he's calling plays in New Orleans. And now he has complete control of this offense, and he trusts Sam Donald. He trusts you guys implicitly.
1:04:46Yeah, like you just said, he trusts us, and he believes in us, and he lets us know that each and every week, and we come in with the same mindset. And he has an expectation for all of us, and that's to go out and dominate, man, and that's what we do. that's why it's so special to be a part of this group is because we all kind of work together for one goal each and every game, each and every opportunity that we get. You know, we're out there playing for each other and that's what makes it so special.
1:05:10Shannon Sharpe:You do realize that without you, there's a great chance the Seahawks don't have because you guys were just milling around, just milling around, and then all of a sudden the Shahid bomb exploded. Out of there. And then not only did you get the punt return, they handed down, I think they handed it to you on like third down and had a handoff to you and you go 31 yards down the right sideline. Yes, sir. Yeah, no, it was a crazy game. It's an honor to be part of that moment, being able to bring my team to spark that we needed to ultimately be a first seed. Have you been to the market yet? Have you gone to the market where they throw the fish and you get the paper and you catch the fish?
1:05:53Shannon Sharpe:Have you caught any fish yet? I didn't. I got a video. I'm waiting to drop it. You know, I'm going to let everybody know that I've been there. Hey, did you catch the fish, though? The first time? The first time? I caught the fish. First time. Okay. Here's the thing, Ocho. Did you have paper or was it with the bare hands? Because sometimes they'll give you paper, sometimes they'll let you bare hand it. Bare hands. Bare hands. I wasn't with it at first, though. It was really my mom. My mom was the one who wanted me to go up there and do it. Okay. You know what I'm saying? You got to do it. Mom wants you to do it.
1:06:26You got to do it.
1:06:28Shannon Sharpe:So what type of fish was it? Oh, man, salmon. It was a salmon. Okay. Yeah, okay. Man, them things get big. You like seafood? You do eat seafood? I do. I do. Yeah, I'm in the right spot. Sure. You absolutely, because you get it fresh, coming straight out the Bering Sea. Yeah. The Alaskan king crabs. I mean, you name it, they got it. They got fish I ain't even ever heard, because I'm up there like, what the hell is that? Yeah. I ain't never heard of that fish or never seen that fish. Oh, yeah. It's great. Hey, you a healthy eater? Are you, like, big on eating greens and eating healthy and all that?
1:07:03I got the Ocho method going on. I got the Ocho.
1:07:08Shannon Sharpe:There you go, Shee. There you go. No, he said he got the Ocho method going on. Yeah, I try. I've known the method for a minute now. There we go. That's what I'm talking about. Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. Let's go. They cook for y 'all. They give y 'all breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They cook whatever you want. They cook fish. They cook salmon. They cook everything. I mean, nice. I mean, broccoli and rice and Brussels sprouts and green beans. Everything you just named. Man, I ain't talking to you. I'm talking to Rasheed. But everything you just named is why everybody keep getting hurt.
1:07:41Hey, I didn't say that. But we do eat good, though.
1:07:46Shannon Sharpe:We do eat good. You don't be eating that fast food. I mean, okay, if you eating unhealthy, you let the sea out. You're letting the Seahawks dietitians prepare food for you. Hey, schooling, what you be eating sometimes, She? I be eating out. Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes. Yeah, not like you, Ocho, all the time. Nah, he says sometimes. It's called balance, Unc. It's called balance. You definitely got to have balance. Thank you. Got to have balance. Just imagine, Ocho, if I'd have had you, had you eating right, seven, eight-time, first-team, all-pro. I was. And I got you a couple of 120-cast seasons.
1:08:21Shannon Sharpe:Nah, we don't throw the ball that much back then. You would have. If you'd been me, you'd have to get it. I'd say, we got to get Ocho to rock. They won't listen to you. Well, see, man, congratulations, man. Good luck. Stay healthy. Do you like it? Do you like being in Seattle? You want to remain in Seattle? Yeah, I'm loving it. I'm loving it. I feel like they brought me here for a reason, and that's to stay. So that's it. That's it. I'm a Seattle Seahawks. Yeah, yeah. You married? No, no. I'm single, man. Oh, you single? Single. Boy, I got somebody for you too, boy. Hey, let me know. Yeah, she don't speak no English though.
1:08:57That's okay. Yeah, that's good. I told y 'all that my cousin. I told y 'all that my cousin. Y 'all heard what he said? Yeah, I told y 'all that my cousin. Yeah, I got you. I'm going to let you focus. I'm going to let you focus after y 'all win the Super Bowl. And I got you. Yeah, hit me this offseason about that and about training too. Matter of fact, hey, come back. You know, JSN came to the receiver camp, the wide receiver workshop last year, man. Come on down here, man. Let's get a little work in.
1:09:28Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Well, definitely. Well, congratulations, man. The trade, everything has worked out brilliantly. You're one game. You're one win away from me reaching your ultimate team destination, which is getting to the Super Bowl. So congratulations. Stay healthy. Rashid Shahid, the great return man for the Seattle Seahawks. And he plays a little offense also. Thank you, man. Thanks for joining us, bro. Appreciate you guys. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Appreciate you, man. Y 'all take care. Oh, man. All right, fellas. Hey, man.
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