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This episode is a “Best of NFL News Part 2” roundup mixing playoff talk, player/coach perspectives, and media discussion.
Guests
Jaylon Johnson (Chicago Bears CB1) and Woody Marks (Houston Texans RB). Johnson discusses the Bears’ playoff turnaround after being down 21-3 vs Jordan Love, saying halftime video and leaders’ focus on execution changed the sideline tone; he credits QB/coach Ben Johnson’s leadership and tempo-control approach. He highlights Caleb Williams’ 4th-and-11 “dime” throw while rolling/stumbling, and claims the team’s late-game composure comes from repeated defensive stops and offensive execution. Johnson also explains his viral kneel/prayer moment toward Christian Wyland as encouragement, and defends competitive coaching behavior. He notes his own core/adductor injuries and rehab, saying he’s not fully healthy. Marks recounts his Texans wild-card breakout (19 carries, 112 yards, 1 TD) in Pittsburgh, attributing success to Wednesday–Friday practice, physical “bully ball,” and wearing down the Steelers’ front. He contrasts regular season vs playoffs (“no plays off”) and discusses D’Amico Ryans’ message to run the ball regardless of weather. The episode also covers Mike Tomlin stepping down after 19 years with the Steelers, and a debate about a Jacksonville reporter’s empathetic praise after a Jaguars loss.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOHalftime Strategies and Player Leadership
2:06 to 4:08
Jaylon shares insights on halftime adjustments and team leadership during tough games.
“He tackles two passes, defendants, defended, and he's a part of the Cardiac Bears.”
Impact of Coaching Changes
4:08 to 5:28
Discussing how the arrival of Coach Ben Johnson and QB Caleb Williams changed the team's dynamic.
“just executing and playing more aggressive.”
Game-Winning Plays and Confidence
5:28 to 7:22
Jaylon reflects on crucial plays leading to their recent victories and building confidence.
“He's like, oh, they think they got a defense.”
Significant Plays and Team Bonding
7:22 to 8:18
Jaylon recounts memorable moments and his relationship with teammates, including Christian Wyland.
“And somehow you guys make a play on defense, you get a stop, and then when you turn the ball back over to Caleb in that offense, they cash it in.”
The Importance of Competition
8:18 to 10:12
Exploring the competitive nature within the NFL and how it motivates players.
“But really, I think for me, it was just really going back in.”
Defensive Strategies for Upcoming Games
10:12 to 11:24
Discussing game strategies for upcoming matches against tough opponents like the Rams.
“So, I mean, it's not like you can just hide and try to just do all these things.”
Injury Challenges and Recovery
11:24 to 13:02
Jaylon talks about his recovery from a sports hernia and its impact on his performance.
“It is funny because, like, for me, I was, like, I went to school with his brother, Samson.”
Athlete's Resilience and Public Perception
14:02 to 16:07
Discussion on the challenges athletes face and public misconceptions about their performance.
“You see why he's so great at what he do?”
Woody Marks' Breakout Game Analysis
19:18 to 27:49
Insights from Woody Marks on his performance in the AFC wildcard round.
“He had a breakout performance in the Houston 30 to 6 win over the Steelers.”
Mike Tomlin Steps Down
28:00 to 28:30
Discussion on Mike Tomlin's resignation and its implications for the Steelers.
“Y 'all ran so hard we gonna get you out of this though but y 'all you ran so hard man Mike Tomlin stepped down the next day.”
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Empathy in Journalism
31:00 to 39:20
Exploring the concept of empathy in journalism post-playoff loss.
“There's a viral video going around about a reporter having words of encouragement from Liam Cohen following the Jags playoff loss.”
Reflection on the Future of the Jaguars
39:20 to 42:00
Discussion on the Jaguars' potential with a focus on player development.
“Maybe they got a car parked across the street somewhere and they get in their car and change clothes or go home and shower and put on it and do it all over again.”
Analyzing Mike Tomlin's Departure from Steelers
42:00 to 44:11
Discussion on the implications and background of Mike Tomlin stepping down as Steelers coach.
“they're going to owe the Pittsburgh Steelers compensation.”
Coaching Vacancies and Future Prospects
44:12 to 45:43
Exploration of potential coaching vacancies available for Mike Tomlin and others in the NFL.
“I think Mike Tomlin is going to have this choice.”
Pittsburgh's Standard and Fan Expectations
45:44 to 47:38
Analysis of the expectations of Pittsburgh fans and the historical performance of the Steelers.
“The fans becoming, you know, kind of dissatisfied with just mediocrity.”
The Importance of Succession Planning
47:39 to 49:21
Discussion on the need for succession plans in football teams, using examples like Green Bay.
“He was a defensive coordinator when I was in Baltimore, orchestrated a historic defense.”
Trade Dynamics in the NBA
49:22 to 53:01
Conversation about recent trades in the NBA and their implications for teams.
“And if you ain't got it, you know, sometimes fans want you to have more.”
Upcoming NFL Playoff Predictions
53:02 to 55:20
Predictions for upcoming NFL playoff matchups and analysis of team performances.
“I think Luka may get the guys involved more than Trey.”
Super Bowl Predictions and Team Analysis
56:01 to 56:41
Discussion on predictions for the Super Bowl matchups and team performances.
“but you got to win the game to get there but I'm going to go with the young dogs I'm going to go with Houston and I think even Seattle is playing great.”
Closing Remarks and Farewells
56:41 to 58:04
Casual banter and farewells among the hosts before transitioning to ads.
“Nine to nine, nine to put another nine with it.”
Transcript
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2:05Shannon Sharpe:We got a very special guest joining us tonight. Ocho. What's up, Matthew? He tackles two passes, defendants, defended, and he's a part of the Cardiac Bears. Here he is. Hey, corner CB1, JJ, Jayla Johnson. Jay, how you doing, bro? What's up, man? Good to see y 'all again. Good to see you. Hey. And when you come on nightcap, you normally have to get the comeback later this season because you had a pro bowl, all pro season, or you teamed in the playoff. That's just the way it pans out. No doubt. 100%. So that game is not going the way you want it. They're going up and down the field. Jordan Love, three touchdowns in the first half, 21-3.
2:46Shannon Sharpe:I mean, so what's going on? So walk us through the locker room at halftime. What did Ben Johnson say? What were some of the leaders saying? and then the start of that fourth quarter, what was the sideline like? Honestly, it was honestly a crazy turn of events. Like, we, of course, come out, we turned up, we ready to go, and then we go down 21-3, and it's like, man, everybody shut the hell up. Ain't no more talking. Nah, ain't no more hurrah-rah. Yeah, nah, ain't no more hurrah. And I just remember Kevin Byer the whole time, he was like, man, talking ain't going to help us execute. Like, we need to stop talking and doing all this and settle in.
3:20And then really just at halftime, that was the biggest thing. Like, it can't get no worse than this. Like, I mean, at the end of the day, it's 21-3, almost 21-blow. But I think, too, like, Coach showed us a video, like, a whole breakdown during camp of the Falcons and Patriots game when they went up 28-3. Wow. And all that just shows, like, the composure. Yeah, he showed that to us early. So just, like, talking to Joe Tooney, because he was on the winning side of it, and then Jerry was on the losing side of it. So having both of them get their perspectives on it, and then it really just, he brought it back up.
3:50Like, this is that moment. Like think back to the conversation that we had and what it took for, for them to get back into it is one possession at a time. Defense gets stopped often and start putting points on the board. And that was really it. So when we came out on defense, it was like, man, we got to get stopped. If we, we figured it didn't score no more, then we'll win the game. So, but that's all we were focused on really on defense, just executing and playing more aggressive. Hey, what is, what has it been like? That entire culture has shifted because of one man, obviously having, having a, having a quarterback like Caleb Williams and you get someone, a coach, a player-friendly coach, as I like to call it, in Ben Johnson and coming to the area.
4:26Is he the sole reason for the reason you guys are having, the kind of success you guys are having? I mean, it's hard to say the sole reason. I think, for one, just the timing. I would say everything, and the only person to get credit for that is God, of course. But I think really just the timing of when Ben got here, when Caleb got here, when a lot of these pieces all got here. I think it would be different if he got here three, four years ago. The team looked different. Situation is different. But I would definitely say his leadership, his competitiveness has definitely changed the trajectory of how we looked at approaching games.
5:02And again, too, I mean, you can be a good leader all you want, but you dialing it up on offense as well. And he's always been doing that. I think just the way he controls the game, even going into that game, he was like, if we win it, we want to receive, we want to control the tempo, control the ball. And it's like, no, man, I ain't never heard nobody say this. Oh, we want the defense to go out there and set the tone. It's like, nah, let us get the ball. Let us control the tempo. Let us take some of the time off and things like that. So he's definitely ahead of it. He's an offensive-minded coach.
5:29He wants to attack.
5:30Shannon Sharpe:He's an offensive-minded coach. He wants to attack. He's like, oh, they think they got a defense. Now we want the ball. Yeah, no doubt. We want the ball. We're going to show them. We're going to take this ball and go right down to the field. There was a throw. And I know you saw it on the sideline. That one that Caleb – That's your season. That's fourth and 11. If you don't get that, JJ, your season's over. He falls. He's rolling to his left. He backs and stumbles and throws a dime for 15. When you saw that. He's more accurate going that way. That's the crazy part. Like, it's backwards as it sounds.
6:06It's like you don't even want to flush him to his left because he can still get it off accurate. But when he threw it, it was just like, man, what the? Ooh, okay. it was just like one of those was like you think like man it's over he out here doing some crazy stuff and it works so I think I can't even say it works that's just part of his game like at this point it's not even something that you can just say that just happens or imagine Houdini it's like nah he's legit at that and he does it in practice he's clearly been doing this forever so it's just really who he is and it's funny because I think it was yesterday came in I've seen him it might have been a day I've seen him I'm just like hey man sometimes I gotta look a man in the eye and just say say good job You're doing a heck of a job because some of the stuff he does is crazy.
6:47That's not something you'll see every day.
6:48Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I'm looking at you guys. You guys were down with less than two minutes to go to the Raiders 24-19. You win that game. You're down to the Bengals with 19 seconds. You win that game. You're down against the Vikings with four seconds. You win that game. Second and goal, 27-16, Green Bay, 4-18 on the clock, and you win that game. How have you guys been able to maintain your composure when all seems lost? Like, damn, how we find ourselves in that situation? And somehow you guys make a play on defense, you get a stop, and then when you turn the ball back over to Caleb in that offense, they cash it in.
7:31I think execution brings confidence. And I think at the end of the day for us, we've been able to execute it down the stretch over and over. And with that, you naturally have confidence where it's like, Like, all we got to do is give him an opportunity to close the game out or put it in our hands to close the game out. I think that's really the mentality and the mindset. As long as there's time on the clock, we got a way to win. So, I mean, it's just one of those things where it's switch force. I mean, for a long time, it's been the exact opposite where we find ways to lose the damn game. So, I think for us in this building and this culture and what we have now, we find ways to win.
8:04Shannon Sharpe:There's a viral video going on where you're kneeling down, tricking on Christian Wyland on the final play of the game. Walk us through that moment. What was going on? What were you saying to him? And what made you do that? Yeah, I mean, of course, everybody's seen the prayer video when I prayed for him, when he injured his knee. But really, I think for me, it was just really going back in. And I don't even want to say checking on him, but just telling him, like, way to push through, way to battle back and come back from what he injured and all that. And, of course, just competitive. I mean, he's still fast, still runs, still blazing.
8:36I think it's just a blessing to just see him out there. So, I mean, of course, after the second game and we don't – or the second and third game, we don't have to see each other no more. Definitely wanted to take that time and tell them, like, nah, I'm proud of you and how you bounce back. And I feel like that was something I – I don't want to say owed him, but I feel like it's something I had in my heart to do.
8:54Shannon Sharpe:A lot has been made about Ben in the locker room saying, F the Packers after the win. Yeah. I mean, and then you see him – I mean, he almost like – I mean, he ran up their head. You know, normally the coaches, they run up there, they shake each other's hand. They lean in, good luck, hey, wish you the best. Man, Ben read that thing like this here, like, hey. Like, he stole the man's TV earlier that day and didn't want the man to slick him in the line. Yeah. I mean, honestly, it's one of those things where it's like, it's good to see that competitor. I feel like people pick and choose when they want people to be competitive and they want the coach to be aggressive and competitive.
9:28And then when he shows it, it's all, he's this, he's that. It's like, either you want the competitiveness or you don't. I mean, at the end of the day, too, it's a rivalry. Coaches have hidden rivalries. I mean, they've been competing for a long time against each other. I mean, at the end of the day, it is what it is. He's embracing that Chicago nature, too, at the end of the day. Yeah. Hey, you guys obviously have the Rams coming up and obviously not wanting to give a game plan away. But I think what do you guys think defensively to be able not to stop but to contain Devontae Adams, Pugan Akua, and Matt Stafford and those boys offensively?
10:03I think guys like me got to strap up. I think it's kind of just as simple as that. Because, I mean, it's not – it's only so much too high you can play. They're going to run the ball. So, I mean, it's not like you can just hide and try to just do all these things. I mean, at the end of the day, guys who get paid to cover, they're going to go out there and cover. And, shoot, the rush got to hit home as well. So, I mean, hopefully there's some – we're going to have some – I mean, it's Monday, so, I mean, we got some time to figure out how to execute it. But I know, especially for me, this is a pride game.
10:30I go into this game more than excited, more than willing and able to go handle whatever. needs to get handled. So, I mean, for myself, I'm just preparing myself for that. But I know everybody on the back end, we all got to step up and really take pride in this game because, I mean, it's going to go through. It's going to go through Puka. It's going to go through Devontae. And the big boys up front got to handle the running back and the quarterback. So, that's really how I'm looking at it.
10:53Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, because you – I mean, you look at it as like, well, it ain't no, like, well, I follow this guy, you follow that guy because both of the guys can – Hey, you got a line up to go through. And the other guy's had to leave your touchdown. So, hey, either one of these guys you know can go off on a given. And Puka is so physical. People don't realize how big Puka is. People think because he lines up in the slot, Jay, is that he a small guy. No, Puka big as hell. He got them Polynesian bones. Yeah.
11:21Shannon Sharpe:Puka be out there with no tape. Puka be out there just butt rolling. It is funny because, like, for me, I was, like, I went to school with his brother, Samson. so I like know the family been around him talk to him at the pro bowl and it's like if you knew his family you know how like nice he is and like it's almost like he has plenty of like athletic family members they all play basketball super crazy athletic and it's like for him to be the youngest of doing what he's doing it's really no surprise to me because I mean we're trying to get him at Utah yeah look you dealt with a core muscle injury um I think they call it a sports hernia Is that what you, because you don't have insertion?
12:00Shannon Sharpe:That's not what I had. That's not what you have. So what did you have? No, I had tore, so initially I tore my like adductor. So it's like with all those things kind of connected from the adductor going into the pelvic and then the core going into the pelvic. Once you kind of tear one, you kind of more likely going to tear the other one. So in Detroit, I ended up tearing pretty much the core part of that connection. And then naturally I had some damage leaking to my other side. So I really got both sides repaired, growing and core. Wow. So you good now though, huh? Yeah. I mean, as far as like my surgery and injury go, but it's like the rehab is almost never ended almost for about a year.
12:39Cause I mean, all the scar tissue builds up and being in the position that I'm in, sliding, moving lateral. Yeah. You got an aid.
12:45Shannon Sharpe:You got an aid. You got a drive. You even tear. Hey. So it's been tough on me, honestly. Cause it's like, when you know you can't move how you normally move, you start overcompensating. Now your mind is messed up, and now you're like, man, do I got it? Like, what am I? So, no, it's like, for me, that's really what I was fighting, like, the first three, four weeks. I mean, being in pain, taking them, numbing shots, and, like, for the games to be able to go. I mean, it's really been a lot. Are you? See the chat? Hey, it's been some stuff. And people go, oh, man, Jalen's not healthy. You damn right I'm not all the way healthy.
13:14But I think really just for me, just continuing to just continue to attack the rehab. I just got off the massage table a few hours ago. So, just trying to just continue to give myself the best chance to win. but I'm looking forward to a full off season and get really healthy. But you know, Jay, that when people – Hold on. Go ahead, Ocho. Hey, listen, if you talk about getting healthy in the off season, you might – I know where to go for a look. Where? To you. I'm calling you up. Hey, there you go. There you go. I got you. I got you. Listen, on the field, off the field, but I'm also – I have a meal plan that you can hire me next year as your nutritionist.
13:49I had you right. I'm already on it. I just had me and McGrittle, uh, McMuffin the other day. See, that's why. See, I'm trying to tell you. I'll bring it to the facility. Ask the guys about me. I bring McDonald's Chick-fil-A breakfast every Saturday. You see? You see why he's so great at what he do? Huh? I've been taking notes. For sure, for sure. You got to get the people what they want. It ain't nothing but a little soul food.
14:09Shannon Sharpe:See, if he's eating the chicken bread and he was eating the, you know, grill stuff, he wouldn't have had that. Oh, snap. Nah, but, but that's, but that's the, that's the part that people don't see. is that what an athlete does just to be able to go out there. Yeah. And then when you don't put up the numbers, when you don't put up the numbers or you're not playing like you're supposed to play, the first thing they holler, oh, he washed. Bro, that man had surgery. He just came back. He's having to take injections just to get his ass out there. But you know what? All they see is one with Johnson on the back of that jersey.
14:46That's it.
14:46Shannon Sharpe:They don't care how you got there. That's it. You could have drove a bulldozer. to get to the game. You there now. Yeah, nah. And it's funny because it's like, that's why I'm glad, like, I'm not on social media because, like, I don't see it. I just kind of hear it from my people that are on it. But it's just like, for me, it's like, I know what I'm going through. And it's like, realistically, I shouldn't even have came back when I came back. Like, I took every measure to try to push my body, push myself, and it's like, all y 'all see is, oh, yeah, Jalen's not healthy. It's like, yeah, but Jalen's also still giving the team the best chance to win, like, regardless of me being healthy or not.
15:20But, I mean, for me, I ain't worried about it. At the end of the day, I know what I can do, and I know I'm getting better. And you can see it on the tape. So, I mean, at the end of the day, that's all I can ask for.
15:29Shannon Sharpe:Well, we're glad you're back, man. Hopefully you get healthy. But hopefully the offseason, you get to push that back a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I ain't going home. You got some big French to fry right now. Yeah, I ain't going home right now. So, man, congratulations on an unbelievable season. Glad you got an opportunity to come back. Stay healthy. Go out there. Hey, you one step closer. No doubt. One step closer. Man, congratulations. Hey, when y 'all take care to get that win on Sunday, come holler at us. I'll be back. Trust me. All right. Appreciate it, bro. I'll be easy. Jalen Johnson, cornerback, Chicago Bears.
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19:18Shannon Sharpe:He had a breakout performance in the Houston 30 to 6 win over the Steelers. AFC wildcard round. A career best 19 carries, 112 yards and a touchdown. Here he is, the outstanding running back from the Houston Texans, Woody Marks. Woody, how you doing, bro? What's up, Woody? You're muted.
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19:42Shannon Sharpe:I'm doing good. What's up? Okay. We're good. ISO, how you doing, bro? You good? Yeah, I'm good. Just living. Talk to us about that performance. You guys, you. Your best game of your career. And you had it on one of the biggest stages of the NFL. the wild card game. You're in Pittsburgh. You know they do a really good job against the run. Why were you guys able to have such success running the football that night? Everybody started Wednesday. I knew I knew it was going to have a big game. Just Wednesday practice when we first went out there. The guys was linking up and just moving people off the ball.
20:23And then it came on to Thursday. I was like, all right, it's carrying on. Then Friday, it's carrying on. Then we was like, our running back coach, he was like, yeah, we're going to have a good night running the ball. it just came to life right there
20:37Shannon Sharpe:it seemed like you guys wore him down they had D 'Amico on the sideline he was talking about wear him out, wear him down and you guys seemed because that last touchdown you broke like cellmate tackle they were just like what the hell with it, it's over you broke their will you broke their spirit yeah, for sure we was wearing them down you kind of heard it them talking on the back end saying like Man, we running straight at your face. That's what Nick Chubb told us. We got to do. So we coming straight at your face. They play bully ball. We going to play bully ball, too. Hey, Woody, you from the ATM?
21:14Yeah, I'm from the A.
21:16Shannon Sharpe:Hey, what's up, bro? Hey, tell me something. What's the biggest changes from the regular season to the postseason that you notice in this year? Just scrub Chubb. You got to be locked in. No plays off. Every play mattered. I feel like extra points to kick off, what you put in the landmark at, everything matters. Yeah. What high school did you go to in Atlanta? Clover, Atlanta. Oh, okay. Okay. Christian Kirk also had 144 receiving yards. I mean, you guys have your best day on the biggest stage when it's needed the most. I mean, could you – I mean, because your offense struggled a little bit early on.
22:04Shannon Sharpe:I mean, you had three turnovers. Your defense didn't bend, and it didn't concede anything. But you guys got it together. What was it about that week of practice that let you know that you guys had what it took to go on the road and get a very tough, hard-fought victory? But you made it look convincing. Yeah, we didn't replay plays. I think we went – That was our fastest on Fridays, not replay plays. So everybody was locked in. So I knew he was going to have a great game. Yeah. Hey, what is it like playing for DeMarco, Woody, considering him being a former player? And what's that been like? It's good.
22:43Just seeing him, he be over there on the defense side, playing linebacker when we on scout team. So you see how physically he was. He tried to break it. Like, you don't got no pads, so you better move out of the way.
22:56Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Woody, you tell him to, hey, D 'Amico, bro, Oh, if I'd have been playing when you'd have been playing, I'd have ran you. Yeah, for sure. Look, you got a very tough opponent. You got the New England Patriots, and everybody knows what the Patriots represent. Even though Tom Brady's not there, Mike Bray will play a number of years with them. He brings that old school coaching. Kind of like you guys, very physical in the run game. Play outstanding defense. Do not turn the ball over. Do not let them have big plays. and the weather prediction is indicating that it might be snow. You guys play indoors.
23:36Shannon Sharpe:You guys play in it. They play indoors. You play in Jacksonville. It's really nice and sunny. And Tennessee, I don't know when you went to Tennessee. Sometimes Tennessee, it does get cold in Nashville. But this is what you're one step away from being in the AFC championship game. What is your thought process? What is D 'Amico today with your first day of practice, if I'm not mistaken? So, no, yesterday was your first day of practice. What has been D 'Amico's message? We're going to play Houston ball. We're a tough team. No matter the condition, when they place that ball down, we're going to get the rocking.
24:10That's what we live by. Offense, defense, special team, we all going to get the rocking when they place that ball down. We play inside, but we football players. We done played in the rain before. We done played in the snow before. Probably not football, but we done been outside in the snow, just playing around as kids. So we know the feeling of it. When we get there, we'll be used to it.
24:32Shannon Sharpe:You played for Cliff Kingsbury at UFC. D 'Amico, what's the biggest difference between D 'Amico and Cliff? I was with Link most of the time. It's really not a difference. Link kind of did the same thing. Be over there on the scout team. Link and Ryder. Link and Ryder. I meant to say Link and Ryder. I said Cliff. Link and Ryder. Yeah, he was more of an offensive-minded guy. Coach D 'Amico, he more of a defensive guy, so you kind of see the difference in between that. But both of them want to run the ball. Just hearing him say, we want to run the ball. You got to run the ball. That's what people been preaching to me.
25:10You got to run the ball in the playoffs. Yeah.
25:14Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, especially under them conditions y 'all might be under, you know, this weekend. Yeah. And you're going to have your lunch pail ready to go, man. but have the big boy pants on. Let me ask you this. Houston. Man, what's it like living in Houston, Woody? Uh-oh. What's it like living in Houston? Woody, tell me that. Come on up, Woody. Don't come on up. Come on. Hey, Woody, we're going to come down there and hang out, Woody, but tell us what's like. Oh, it's about, you've been in Atlanta before. It's about the same. I live in Atlanta. I said that, man. I said it's like a big Atlanta. It's a big Atlanta.
25:49About the same thing going on. She got good food. everything
25:56Shannon Sharpe:you got in and out that you got out here I don't know I think they got about a little bit more in Houston I ain't lying to you yeah they probably got a little bit more for real yeah a little bit hey you gotta spray it out there cause me Ocho and Joe we need to come out there we need to talk a place to lay our head we good I got y 'all for sure I got y 'all say live that's what I'm talking about that's what I'm talking about that's what I'm talking about That's my homeboy for the crib. You know, homeboys leave us. We go out, grab a cup of drink. That's all. We go Uber everywhere we go. We don't need to have no ride.
26:33Shannon Sharpe:Just Uber. It's going to be good. Black truck. Black truck. Black truck. I'm all for that. It's on you though. Oh, I got to cover that. What a hospitality. I got you out of the crib. Damn. I got you the crib. Okay, you know what? That's good enough. That's all I need. That's all I need. Vegas can't be choosy. Vegas can't be choosy. You know what, Woody? We appreciate that. We're going to have a black car. We'll do that. Hey, man, congratulations, man. Great work on Monday night, man. Carry it over. You guys look good. Tell D 'Amico I said what's up, man. Wish you the best of luck. Thank you. Good luck, bro.
27:19Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. Woody Marks, the outstanding young running back for the Houston Texans, had a breakout game, 19 carries, 112 yards, one touchdown. He ran extremely hard all night long. And at the end, it was that running physical style that the Houston Texans offensive line and running backs played with that finally wore down and the levy burst. And when he broke that long, that touchdown run, you could see that was the Pittsburgh Steelers. You saw something you hadn't seen from a Steelers defense in a very long time. they hung their heads because they know they had thoroughly gotten their ass kicked that night.
27:55Shannon Sharpe:That run game and that defense that's what kept them in it. Y 'all ran so hard we gonna get you out of this though but y 'all you ran so hard man Mike Tomlin stepped down the next day. He said man I don't want no more of this. You saw that young man come in there and the other dude did that? The defense beat us like that? Deuces.
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31:07Shannon Sharpe:There's a viral video going around about a reporter having words of encouragement from Liam Cohen following the Jags playoff loss. Let's take a listen to what the video talks about. How you doing today? Lynn Jones, Jacksonville Free Press News. I just want to tell you congratulations on your success, young man. You hold your head up. All right. You guys have had a most magnificent season. You did a great job out there today. You just hold your head up. OK. Ladies and gentlemen, Duval, you the one. All right. Keep it going. We got another season. OK. I appreciate it. Take care and much continued success to you and the entire team.
31:40Thank you, man.
31:43Shannon Sharpe:Well, I mean, you see the video is very heartwarming. Others have called it out. Now, Lynn Jones said that she's under criticism because she's black. I'm a member of the black press. I'm the editor of the Jacksonville Free Press and one of the more than 230 African-American papers support the black press. Ocho. Talk to me, because you're better. because you're somewhat in that space and understand when it comes to journalism, what you can and what you can't do, what's professional, what's not professional. And for me, on the outside looking in, being that I'm not really in that space, being a player, not being a coach, but being a player and hearing words like that, coming from someone who is supposed to be a journalist and ask questions on maybe why did you lose, what didn't go right, stuff like that.
32:34And hearing something different for a change, to me, it was refreshing.
32:38Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Refreshing to hear. I'm not used to it. That is my first time ever hearing someone approach. Probably the first time. Yeah, my first time hearing something like that. Oh, it is? So I would love to hear your thoughts on what you did. Normally, media members are supposed to be independent. Yes. They're not supposed to support or criticize. I mean, you know, you could criticize the plays here, the plays that but she it's not like she's a columnist a columnist is different than a a beat reporter so from on one hand yes yes that is very out of the ordinary for them for a reporter to say you keep your head up yes sir uh you did a good job we're proud of you whatever whatever all she's saying there's next year normally reporters coach uh obviously with a tough loss for the season but what did you think if you could do it over again, what would you like to have over?
33:35Shannon Sharpe:Things of that nature. So we don't normally that I think a better word is that reporters are supposed to lack empathy. They're not supposed to show compassion. At that moment, she can see that his head was down. She's probably covered him. She's probably been to every press conference this man has had since he's been the head coach of the Jags. Yes, sir. She can see he was hurting. She would see he was down. The empathy that she showed in that moment, most journalists like, I understand, it's nice, but she can't, she's not supposed to do that. She's supposed to be Switzerland. She's supposed to be neutral.
34:19Shannon Sharpe:So she's not supposed to be sad. She's not supposed to be excited. She's not supposed to be disappointed. She's not supposed to be angry. She's supposed to just ask questions. and do her do her job basically that's it matter of fact for her she she is the outlet for what the fans want to hear she's supposed to ask the question to the head coach in that so the fans can get the answers on why things didn't go the way they think it should have that is correct yeah i listen i i understand both sides obviously uh the the notion that it was unprofessional i don't like that part of it because to me it was refreshing to hear a Porter, actually half empathy for head coach in that situation with all the work that they put in, the success that they've had this season and seeing that coach is obviously distraught, you know, in that moment.
35:08So giving him and giving him that praise in that moment, I don't see anything wrong with it. But I can see those that are journalists, that are columnists that are in that space and do their job in a certain manner, in a certain way. and finally seeing someone do it a little bit differently than what they're not used to hearing or seeing, I can see why they're upset. Yeah.
35:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I'm not surprised that she got the criticism that she got. I knew that was coming. I knew that was coming because like you said, like I said, journalists are not supposed to have basically any emotion. You're just asking.
35:48Shannon Sharpe:You're just Right. You're asking questions that you think the fans would want that would want answers to and deserve answers to. So you're not supposed if someone's down, you're not supposed to show compassion. Somebody's feeling so too good. You're not supposed to try and bring them down. You just you're there. You just ask questions. Right. But like you said, it is it is it is it was different. Yeah. And I think I wish personally more people had empathy. I don't think we have enough. No, absolutely not. I don't think we have enough compassion. Right. Especially in those spaces, especially in those spaces.
36:32I'm curious what the chat would think. Chad, I would love to hear your thoughts, you know, on on on her, you know, taking a different approach as opposed to asking questions. but giving coach grace, you know, for the work he had done and telling him to keep his head up. I'm just curious to hear what you guys may think as well.
36:49Shannon Sharpe:Well, I think the thing is, I think for the most part, the chat is going to like,
36:57Shannon Sharpe:most people are level-headed and they,
37:05Shannon Sharpe:it's kind of like, Ocho, I look at it like this.
37:11Shannon Sharpe:when somebody else have surgery is minor when you have surgery is major so people don't as long as if i get empathy i'm cool with no one else getting empathy right or compassion and i think the thing is is that you know we've all been there and we needed to needed to pick me up and i think in that space as a journalist that's one of the things that you're talking journalism you're not supposed to feel one way or another or you're supposed to suppress those and not let people know do i think journalists have a liking to certain players sure do i think journalists have a liking to certain uh coaches sure do i think player do i think journalists have a certain dislike to certain players and coaches absolutely yes at the end of the day a journalist is a human being you might be you might supposed to be able to contain your emotions that doesn't mean your absence of them and I think that's the biggest thing is that people think okay you're this no I still have emotions I still have feelings I still have empathy I still feel sympathy I still have compassion I still have you know I get angry I get upset or whatever the term that you want to use at the end of the day, no matter what my occupation is, what my title is, no matter how much money at the end of the day, when you, if I got$700 billion, if you got Elon Musk money, Elon Musk is still a man.
38:39Shannon Sharpe:He still, maybe the same thing that triggers that makes him get upset doesn't make you get upset. Maybe it's the same thing that makes him happy. Doesn't make you happy, but he still has emotions. Humans are not robots. They're, they're not devoid of feelings. But I thought it was refreshing to hear her say that, but I knew she was going to catch some criticism for saying in that space. Now, if she had pulled him aside, nobody would have ever heard, but she said it in a public forum. Right. And I think, you know, so I'm not surprised of the criticism that she's receiving for what she said, because I knew it was going to happen on show.
39:24Shannon Sharpe:I did. I really did. it's over and done with now I mean I just you know sometimes I do wish we had more compassion in that you know
39:40but
39:41Shannon Sharpe:some people have more than others that's just the way it is don't you know some people just have more compassion than others I mean maybe it's a game but I always give homeless people money. And maybe it's a con. Maybe they're not homeless at all. Maybe they got a car parked across the street somewhere and they get in their car and change clothes or go home and shower and put on it and do it all over again. But hey, it is what it is. They'll have to answer for that. I won't. That's the way I look at it. That's the way I look at it. So I like Liam Cohen. I think the Jags have a very, very bright promising future in front of them.
40:22Shannon Sharpe:They got a good team. They got a good team. The guy they took with the second pick in the draft really didn't give them anything. When he comes back as a wide receiver, you saw Parker Washington step up. They got Jacoby Myers. Brian Thomas Jr. Didn't have the type of season that he had the previous year. Just imagine if he gets back to what he was, Ocho. Man, you know what? And I also look at it where now, with the way Parker Washington played this year, Brian Tomlin Jr. is probably going to be there next year. Jacoby's there now. I can see a role where now Travis Hunter playing. A full-time DB and a part-time wide receiver?
41:06Yeah, full-time DB, part-time wide receiver. Yep. I think that's probably what it's going to be.
41:12Shannon Sharpe:Which I thought was the best case scenario for him anyway. You said that. That'll be something that I'm sure we'll have an opportunity to talk about that once they get back into the OTAs again and once they get to training camp, we'll kind of see where, and I'm sure the reporters that are at practice, they'll be, he's taking this many snaps on the defensive side, this many snaps on the offensive side, and maybe it fluctuates up and down. But I think that's kind of the direction that they're heading in. I think probably where he gets the majority of his snaps on the defensive side and takes a few snaps here and there where he can help them on the offensive side.
41:51Shannon Sharpe:Big news of the day. Mike Tomlin, after 19 years, steps down for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And because he stepped down, that means if he signs with another team, they're going to owe the Pittsburgh Steelers compensation. So it probably was a mutual agreement. Look, you do your thing. We're going to do our thing. We're going to move in a different direction. But to make it look classy, we're not terminating you because that's three coaches in 50 years. Yeah. Chuck Nall took it from 69 to 92. Coach Cowan took it from, what, from 92 until 2006, 2007. And then Mike Tomlin took it over from there. So they've only had three coaches in 50-plus in, what, since 1969.
42:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I mean, so you can't argue the success that the Steelers have had. But I think this was great for both teams because I do not believe the Pittsburgh Steelers were any closer, be it with Mike Tomlin. based on how their roster is assembled, the quarterback situation, the offense, I don't think they were close. And having a non-losing season, that's not what you're really going for, Ocho. That's not the standard. There's never been a standard where it comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are a championship-winning organization, if I'm not mistaken. They have, what, five, six Lombardi's? No, they have six.
43:04So, obviously, with the standard being the standard, you can't be satisfied. We're just saying, okay, at least we don't have a non-lose season. We're above 500 this year. I told I'd be talking about it last night.
43:20And that's I think they're going to allow the walk away. And lo and behold, today, you know, he walks away.
43:26Shannon Sharpe:It's shocking. I didn't think that. What you thinking? Man, I think I think Mike Tomlin took a good hard look at the situation. It was like, you know what? Maybe I should take some time off. But like I said, I think it was a mutual decision. And I think he's going to get a coaching job somewhere because there's so many coaching vacancies. in the NFL right now. And it's a lot of jobs that look pretty good. And I think he'll definitely end up coaching against someone. Me personally, I think he moves to the front of the list. I think he jumps in front of John Harbaugh. I think so. And you look, now what thought was, you know, Harbaugh has his pick of pick.
43:59Shannon Sharpe:Now with Mike Tomlin on the thing, because you're talking about somebody that's been 19 years, that's been to multiple Super Bowls. Yes, he's only won one. He's won more division titles than John Harbaugh. So the Giants, that looks appealing. Atlanta, that looks appealing. Tennessee, that looks appealing. I think Mike Tomlin is going to have this choice. Where he wants to go, where does he want to coach? Does he want to take a year off? Does he do TV? Or does he want to jump right back in it? What if it's not even the NFL? What if he takes a college job? What if there's some vacancies in college?
44:30I'm not sure if he wants to have to deal with the NIL drama. But still, I think Mike Tomlin is going to be able to go anywhere, whether it's college level or whether it's the NFL. But he's going to have to go to a situation that's advantageous for him. But if you don't have a quarterback, you're going to be right back in purgatory like you were with the damn Steelers.
44:45Shannon Sharpe:Right. I agree. I don't see college with Mike Conley. I don't either. I don't see. And first of all, there's no college vacancies open currently. That hiring cycle, I mean, LSU's gotten filled by Lane Kemp and Penn State's been filled. So all the coaching vacancies have been filled. But they have a lot of them in the NFL. Arizona's available. Atlanta's available. Tennessee's available. The Giants are available. I like the Giants. hey, now it's been reported that LaFleur and the Packers are trying to work on a long-term deal. You got one more year left. You got one more year left, and you don't want to be a lame duck.
45:16Shannon Sharpe:You want some security. And you want the team to realize, like, okay. Because a lot of times the players will look like, man, you only got one year. We ain't listening to you. So give him some security. Let the team know that he is in charge. But Mike Thomas, this shocked me. And you said it last night that you thought the Steelers would allow him to step away from it. I didn't see that coming. I did not see that. No, I didn't. I mean, honestly, the right was on the wall. The right was on the wall. And the fire Tomlin stuff, you know, the noise, it got louder and louder, Joe. It got louder and louder.
45:46The fans becoming, you know, kind of dissatisfied with just mediocrity. That's never been a standard for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So at some point, understanding, and the problem is, this is the problem. When you had Ben Roethlisberger, you should have already had someone in place. They didn't have a succession plan. They should have had it in place. They didn't want to step on his toes, though.
46:07Shannon Sharpe:Green Bay gave you the blueprint They had Brett Favre still playing at the elite level They get Aaron Rodgers They get Aaron Rodgers still playing at the elite level They get Jordan Love Now you got a succession plan in place But you wait, well I don't want to step on running Bro, you can't worry about his feelings Because guess what, he's happy Man, they ain't drafting no quarterback Look where he left you So because, you know, Ben started to get older You could tell Ben wasn't the same guy So you in order to be a head coach, and this is, I think, one of the reasons why coaches don't get close to players, because at some point in time, you're going to have to let your best player, you're going to have to let him go.
46:44Shannon Sharpe:You're going to have to make very, very tough decisions. And so that's why I'm really surprised that Mike Tomlin decided to step away. But like you said, it was a situation where the noise, it is starting to get louder and louder. I mean, like, really, fire Mike Tomlin. Yeah. You've never heard. I don't think you heard. I mean, like I said, we didn't have 24 hours coverage of social media. Like with Coach Knoll or Coach Cowher. I know early on when Coach Cowher didn't have. But Coach Cowher went to the Super Bowl in his third year. Mike Tomlin won the Super Bowl in his second year. So he's had success and went back again, I think, three years later, ended up losing to the Packers.
47:26Shannon Sharpe:But since then, we talked about it last night, guys. Joe Ocho and I was talking. seven straight losses in the playoffs. Tied with Marvin Lewis for the longest in NFL history. Look, we love Marvin. He was a defensive coordinator when I was in Baltimore, orchestrated a historic defense. He was your head coach. Seven straight losses in NFL history. As long as the NFL's been going on, that ain't a record. That's not something you want to be a part of. That's not what you want to be a part of. I like Mike Tomlin, though, for a number of reasons. First off, he was a culture changer. Yeah. You know what I mean?
48:01Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. And not only that, y 'all know this because y 'all play the game, but he's going to get the respect. Absolutely. Any of the players, all the players on the team. Yeah, also he walks in instantaneous. So wherever he goes or whatever chance he get, like Unc said, he'll probably jump hardball as far. He jumped in the front of the line, man. Get a job. Yes. Man, they know he'll come change the culture wherever he goes. Okay. I'm looking forward to it. If anything, shoot. We got a special guest joining us for Boys Night Out. Good friend of mine. I've been knowing this dude bad. What's up?
48:32Shannon Sharpe:What are you doing, baby? I took that thousand and hundred. He owe you? Yeah, he know. Wait, Oka, owe you? Remember when we bet that thousand on the show? For real? Oh, he'll develop some amnesia. Yeah. You do all the matter thousand and hundred. I got you. I got you. I promise you. I got you. Thank you, Jordan. I've been knowing this dude. This dude, we used to work out together, run track together, go break bread together. So it's always good to see him, even though every day once in a while we'll text each other, man, you in Atlanta, y 'all in Atlanta, let's go break bread. So it's good to see you.
49:06Shannon Sharpe:Talking about Mike Tomlin stepping down, are you surprised that the Steelers and Mike Tomlin are part ways? I'm surprised. He was there for so long. Him and Harbaugh, the two coaches, two decades. And like you say, you only can coach what you got. Yes. And if you ain't got it, you know, sometimes fans want you to have more. and I think he got a lot out of the team he had. They were still missing some offensive pieces. You know, he tried, made the playoff, and, hey, they ran into a juggard all last night. Houston is the best defense in the league, so you've got a 40-year-old quarterback. Yes. That's going to be hard to beat them young guys.
49:42Shannon Sharpe:It is. But the problem, and you're right, you can only coach what you have, but a part of his job is to make sure they have. Yes. He's in charge of the roster. He chose to go and get a 42-year-old quarterback. I don't know what you're thinking, how far a 42-year-old quarterback is going to take you, especially in the cold. Most quarterbacks, as they start to get older, they like warm weather. They like Miami. They like Tampa. They like to be indoors. Second of all, when he had an opportunity, I think the thing is he allowed his relationship with Ben Roethlisberger to not allow him to draft a successor to Roethlisberger.
50:18Shannon Sharpe:Like Green Bay did, they had a successor for Brett Favre. They had a successor for Aaron Rodgers. You've got to think and you've got to project. You can't think Ben Roethlisberger is going to play there for 30 years. And so I think that's what really happened because in the way the NFL is set up now, it used to be bring your run game, bring your defense, and you can get away with a marginal quarterback. In today's NFL, you've got to have a stud to play that position if you want to go far. You can make the playoffs, but if you talk about going far and winning and challenging for championships, without that piece, it's not happening.
50:55Shannon Sharpe:I heard you and Joe talking earlier. Trey Young got traded. I'm surprised. But I think what happened, and Joe, we talk about this. In his absence, you saw Jalen Johnson go to another level. And you're like, hold on. This kid young, he's 6 '9". He can handle the ball. He can dish out assists. He can rebound. He can score. Trey, we love Trey. But we're talking about a guy that's 6' tall, that really doesn't rebound, that doesn't play defense. Yeah, let's move in a different direction. Let's see what you get as far as that's it. Joe, let's go to you first. Are you surprised that they finally moved on from Trey?
51:31Shannon Sharpe:No, I'm not surprised. I thought the writing was on the wall because they played so great when he wasn't in the lineup. And then you put the ball in the hands of Jalen Johnson. I didn't know he could play the way he does. I didn't even play. Like I told y 'all, I just told Oak, in the month of December, he averages triple-double. Yeah. Like, that's rare for a guy. 6 '9", handling the rock. He can score the ball. He can make guys around him better. And then the guys that surround him, they all lock in, play defense. They gritty, bro. They gritty. So, I think that kind of showed when Trey was absent and out the lineup.
52:03Shannon Sharpe:And, obviously, they was ready to move on from it. That's why you don't let nobody get your father. And that's why when you buy a Bentley, they said when you buy a Bentley, keep little miles on it. When you sell it, you get your money back. Yeah, exactly. So, I guess Atlanta's trying to sell Trey to get his money back and give it to somebody else. But they really didn't get money. They basically got CJ on an expiring contract. That seemed like the way they wanted to go to have some maneuverability this offseason. So, I mean, Trey was the face of the franchise. I don't think Atlanta ever forgave them for swapping.
52:35Shannon Sharpe:You had Luka. You traded Luka for Trey. And I think Trey was perfect for the city because Atlanta. But you look at what Luka's doing, Luka. Right. Neither one will play defense, though. Neither one will play defense. But I think Atlanta didn't go to get the piece to fit with Trey. LA would get the piece that fit with Luka. Correct. But Luka's still a problem, too. He's 6 '6". Trey's 5 '11", 6 '3". But my thing is, both are going to shoot the three. I think Luka may get the guys involved more than Trey. But Trey's small. And Washington, he's going to be okay. Because they need somebody to bring the fans in.
53:13Shannon Sharpe:And then his contract, they're going to pay him for the next three or four years. He's going to get his money. He's going to get his money. But they're going to see what can be involved with the team. That's going to be the thing. I think the biggest thing is also, Joe, is that being a great player on a bad team. They're a bad team. Just get your numbers. That's it. That's what you're going to get. You'll get your numbers. You see that a lot in the NBA now. Guys get their numbers. They're getting paid. Teams, when they pay you that$30,$40 million, they want to see something. Most of the time, a lot of these guys get their$30,$40 million.
53:40Shannon Sharpe:They're game going the other way. Yeah. They're not really. Look, on a really good team, you can't be paying a whole bunch of guys. You've got to settle in. Now, Oklahoma City, you saw what they did. They gave Shea his money. They gave J-Dub his money. They gave Trey his money. At some point in time, you can't pay everybody. Everybody can't bill the max contract. So they're going to start losing some of those auxiliary pieces, kind of like what happened with Golden State. They're retired and these other guys start going different places and start branching off, so it cuts into your depth. But you look at Atlanta.
54:14Shannon Sharpe:I still don't think Atlanta is a contender, Even with CJ and Johnson and Dyson Daniels and Walker, I don't. They probably need about another piece or two. Meaning as far as bigs, another rim protector, a guy who can move, great in pick and roll, things of that nature. But I think they're on the right trajectory as far as where they're trying to go. Are they going to get there? I don't know. But I like the team that they have. Those guys, blue-collar workers, they got some guys who can score. And like I said, big fella, Jalen Johnson, he makes all those guys better. So they're a fun team to watch, though.
54:50Shannon Sharpe:He definitely should be an all-star. Oh, he'll be all NBA, huh? Yeah. All NBA. Yeah, all NBA. Did he keep up what he did in December? Yeah. He had a good chance. Yeah, I didn't know he could come like that. But this brings something else to Atlanta, the ball floor. Yeah, there you go. Guys standing around waiting. What trade going to do to the ball? Trade dominate the ball. Right. So now they're going to have more team chemistry. And when you get more team chemistry, everybody's going to go out and fight. Everybody feel like they're a part of something. They're going to go out and fight every night.
55:14Shannon Sharpe:So now they're going to, like I said, the fans might be mad at training, but they're going to see you on the floor. That's when you're going to see the difference. Yeah, yeah. And ball hopping. Oh, I know you follow football. So what do you think? You see the first game on Saturday, you got the Broncos, Buffalo, and then you got the 49ers who went into Philly and pulled an upset. They take on the Seattle Seahawks. The Seahawks beat them the last game of the season to take over that division. and then you got the Patriots take on the Texans and the Broncos and Buffalo who you like? I don't know, it's going to be tough I'm saying you're seeing some of the best football in years guys going down to last possession and the defenses I don't know I know they want Buffalo to be there but you got to win the game to get there but I'm going to go with the young dogs I'm going to go with Houston and I think even Seattle is playing great.
56:12Shannon Sharpe:But I think New England, Buffalo, I'd probably take New England. New England, New England, Seattle in the Super Bowl. Wow. I like that. I can see that. I like that. A rematch of Super Bowl XLIX. Yeah, there you go. Maybe it'll be a different outcome. You got a baby Tom Brady in New England. And they got that defense in Seattle. Defense in Seattle. Yeah, yeah. Man, Oak, appreciate you joining us for the program. man, thank you guys. Boys, I appreciate you man. All guys. Oka, I'm gonna get that money to you. Nine to nine, nine to put another nine with it. Let me have a warm. He owe me Oaks, so let me go here.
56:48Shannon Sharpe:I'm gonna collect Oaks, man. I'm gonna let you over there. I said it though. I ain't gonna let nobody owe me this long. No, I see. My issue is gonna be triple. Oaks say he a long shark. Tyrone, he'll 10 ,000 to 40 ,000. Damn, man. You got it. He done covered it. That's what I'm telling you. It was hard about that. Yeah, it was hard. I'm saying. Appreciate you, old man. Thank you for stopping by, man. Appreciate y 'all.
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