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21:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you know how they play. You know how they play. You know how they play with you. So, AJ, all I can say is just, bro, just go out there and just keep playing. Hey, just keep fighting hard. Just keep playing. Just try to stay positive as you possibly can. You know, pick up hurts when you can. Yeah. Hey, Philly fans. Philly fans. Come on, man. I love y 'all, man. Don't do the coach house like that, man. Don't do his house like that. Don't do it like that. Now watch. Watch Petula gonna go out there. Man, Jalen gonna throw for about 500 yards, man. Well, that right tackle better pick it up. Because Khalil Mack ain't bull jobbing.

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25:55Shannon Sharpe:Odell Beckham tweeted, presumably, I guess it said us, Boy, you can't say nothing in the world nowadays. That's why I've been in my own lane, my own world, and put it the way. People love to take ish out of context to rationalize a statement in their own head that makes sense to them. What a world. Video came out today of Odell selling game-worn chrome heart cleats for 50K. Yeah. Yeah. Remember when you were telling me the story, Unk? Yeah. And I said, I thought he was giving perspective and context on how difficult it is to be able to manage money. I didn't really think he was talking about himself.

26:34No, Ocho. If you got...

26:36Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, what's difficult about managing 60 million liquid? Hold on. Whoa, what's difficult? Unk. the number, the percentage of athletes, NBA, NFL, MLB, is damn near 90 % now. So, I mean, it's difficult. That's why I thought, I thought, I thought, because the first thing when he said it and gave context and perspective on how difficult it is, I thought he was meaning in general, not specifically talking about himself. That's all, but go ahead. I get what he's saying. Yes, sir. But you're spending, first of all, spending$4 million in yearly expenses. Yes, sir. Your home, family home, X, Y, and Z. Well, first of all, to spend that, you need to make at least$10 million.

27:21Shannon Sharpe:Right. Depending on where you are. Now, if you're in a state that takes 50%, now, if you're in Nevada, you're in Texas, you're in Florida, I think Ohio has no state income tax. I think Arizona is like 2%. So if you're in one of those states, so it's going to take about$10 million to have that kind of lifestyle. Now, what happens is, Ocho, is that you still try to maintain that lifestyle, Joe, when you're not bringing in 10 million, and you're still spending that money kind of money going out. That's why they go out. That's why you see guys go belly up, Ocho, is that you don't change your spending habits.

27:54Shannon Sharpe:It's the same way if you're an athlete. You eat whatever you want, you work out. Now, all of a sudden, you're not an athlete, and you still eat whatever you want. Now, all of a sudden, DBs look like D linemen. that's what happens with money hey hey um think about what you just said hey joe think about what you just said right think about what i'm just said real quick right is you you live in a lifestyle when the money's coming in fast right you you become accustomed to that lifestyle that lifestyle actually becomes your image and it becomes an identity yeah so once you stop playing the to the transition to be able to stop and have the discipline to be able to cut it off It's a lot harder.

28:32To become a minimalist almost in a sense, it's almost impossible. It's hard. Because you always wanna maintain that lifestyle and that image. That image. Because what's the first thing everybody that you're trying to goddamn impressed on say? Oh, he ain't got it no more. Oh, he broke.

28:48Shannon Sharpe:And the first time on show you ain't got a new car, man, hey, he must be doing bad. Yeah, he doing bad. Right. Man, you don't, hey, you used to see him with a new whip every other year. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, hey, Joe and Unc, one thing about it, boy, I learned early. I learned early. I did not want to try to keep up with the Joneses. I did not want to keep up. And Joe, I did it when I was making the bulk of my money, Joe. Joe, I came in the NFL already cheap as hell. I didn't care about people making fun of me. I didn't care about certain types of women not wanting to date me because they know, yeah, he ain't paying nothing.

29:21He's not, you know, you ain't getting nothing. That's okay. Because I understand dealing with you is nothing but a liability anyway. Right. You know? I got the table and the legs you got ain't gonna hold it up. Hello, hello. You know, so you understand that you play the game, Joe. It's all a game. And the better you learn to play the game, the longer you will be able to be without. It's okay. But so many of us, so many of us are so caught up and looking like we fucking got it. Like I don't, everybody wanna be rich. Everybody wanna look like they, like shit. No, that's not reality. Social media has us fooled.

30:03It has all of us fooled.

30:04Shannon Sharpe:They ain't got me fooled. They ain't got me fooled. Because I know damn well, I do okay. And I ain't living like that. I ain't got it like that. You know what's scary, Joe? Joe, this is scary part. And this is for men and women. When it comes to the people that try to maintain that lifestyle and you know they don't make the kind of money to continue that lifestyle, Now, especially if you don't play sports, if you don't play sports and you and all this flashy shit, that means you're willing to do anything, anything to maintain that image. Well, that in itself is dangerous, Joe. Yeah. If you leave the sport and you get you a gig and you making money like Stephen A, you making money like Strahan, you making money like Tony Romo, you making money like Tom Brady, take off.

30:55Wait, hold on, hold on. Now what you not gonna do is, I don't mean to put the people in our business, but if you making money like Unk and Ocho, shit, girl, you, hey, listen, boy, hey. Unk ain't gonna pay no money like that.

31:09Shannon Sharpe:Huh? Unk done set everybody up, everybody good, mom good, sister good, everybody good. Listen, listen, Unk, I'm gonna say this one more time. I see them numbers at the end of each month. Yeah, just add us to that goddamn equation. I'm gonna tell you what my grandma always told me. Huh? Speaking into existence. Hello. We do okay, Ocho. We do okay. Hey, will you say okay? Add three more whys to it. Okay. Ocho, I saw a guy today. I saw a guy, I read a quote. Yes, sir. The guy was basically saying, he says, as you become more famous and you become more well off, relationships become more transactional.

31:55Shannon Sharpe:understand that understand that I'm learning that do me a favor do me a favor just in case the chat didn't hit you because I got one for you say it one more time say it one more time make sure the more famous you become and the more well up you become the relationships become more transactional y 'all know what transactional is yeah I agree I agree hey let me let me get let me get let me a little deeper for you real quick uncle joe even if you're not wealthy even if you're not making millions even you're making 100 000 or even if you're a thousandaire you know you know you get paid every two weeks the individual that you're dealing with is still dealing with you based on the ability for you to provide and give them stability in a sense of peace always always so it still aligns those those same that same quote and analogy that unc used are still aligns regardless of how much you make based on your partner ask your partner and tell her to be truthful if you lost the opportunity to provide if she'll still be there ask your partner if you being able to make things convenient and the opportunity dealing with you didn't present this didn't present itself in in a good manner if she would still be there and tell her to be honest with you.

33:16And, you know, a lot of women will say, oh, I don't deal with nobody for no money. It ain't about that. Like, come on now, let's stop. And the funny thing about it is you're always paying for who you're dealing with. And the only thing, this is the only thing. Chad, I want you to do me a small favor. Go to my Twitter and read my bio. Now, there's joke at the beginning but i tell the truth towards the end and i'm gonna just leave that just go to my twitter and read my bio and the truth is sitting right there no matter what they try to tell you that's what it all comes down to no matter what they say yeah but i just think the thing is look

33:57Shannon Sharpe:a hundred million dollar contract i think everybody understands a hundred million nobody's getting all hundred million of that you got to pay you got to pay federal income tax i don't give a damn what state you live in. You've got to pay federal income tax and you have something called a jock tax. If you're a professional athlete and you go to certain states, you got to pay for the money that you earn there. If you go to certain states and you work, you have to pay money that you earn in that state. So I think everybody is, nobody is under the assumption anymore that when they see a hundred million, somebody actually got a hundred million.

34:29Shannon Sharpe:But to get 60, to get, basically, if you, like I said, you live in a tax-free state and you only got to pay 30, 30, let's just say on the high end, you're paying 37 % federal income tax. That means of a million dollars, you get 637, you get 630 ,000. So if you bring home, if you got 60 million liquid, theoretically, Ocho, you put, you put that in a fund, you put that in a fund, you're going to get five to 8%. There'll be some years you get 10, 12%. Yeah. So even if you just getting 5 % on 60 million, that's$3 million a year. Man, if you can't live off$3 million a year, you got issues. Yeah, we in trouble.

35:06Shannon Sharpe:I'm not saying like a Jay-Z or somebody that got full-time security and they got all these chefs and they got all these people. Obviously, it requires more than that. But I'm saying for the average person, like myself, Joe, you, I mean, man, if you can't live off$3 million. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, I'm not average. I'm extraordinary. But I'm saying. I'm cheap as hell. No, I'm just bullshit. I'm just bullshit. But I'm saying people like us, because the average person is not going to be in a situation to make that kind of money. Right. I'm not talking about, I'm talking about, look, if you got, if you make a million dollars a year, unless you got extraordinary expenses, that should, you should be good.

35:45Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, absolutely. Get you a nice little house payment, say, you know, five, somewhere between five and seventy-five hundred a month. Get you a nice car, you and your wife get a nice car. She got one, you got one. Kid, because probably if you make that kind of money, Ocho, it's hard. You're gonna probably be sending your kids to private school. It just is what it is. There are very few people that make a million dollars a year and their kids go to public school. I'm just being honest with you. Now I know everybody say I send my kids. It's easy for you to say that when you're not in that situation.

36:18Shannon Sharpe:But most people that make that kind of money, their kids go to private school. And what we were trying to do, we didn't say it was, we were just trying to say how people go belly up. Because when you have kids, multiple kids, and you live in certain states and you pay five, 10, 15,$20 ,000 per child. You got three kids. If you're paying that kind of money for the kids, guess what else you're paying for? Private school. Private schools cost you somewhere between$10 ,000 and$30 ,000 a year. So now compound that. Yeah. So you're paying$100 ,000 a year. Ooh. $100 ,000. Yeah. No, you're paying$100 ,000.

36:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. So if you pay$20 ,000,$20 ,000,$20 ,000, that's$60 ,000 a month. times 18 years. Plus, let's just say, Ocho, you got three kids and they go to private school, and that's another 20 ,000. So that's another 60 ,000 a year, times 18. Well, they're not gonna stay the same, because private schools go up every year. So it might start out at 20, and by the time they get to be seniors, that's probably be 30, 35. So we're just trying to explain to people how it happens. That's why they say, hey, get you one. If I could do it over again, i'd have all my kids from one i'd be married save myself a lot of money likes a lot of attorney fees also hey hey see see that's what that's why i'm thankful hey joe sometimes they gotta get up see that's what i'm gonna do just this conversation in general i'm i'm gonna get on my knees after the show and i'm gonna thank god i'm gonna thank god because unk just ran off from goddamn numbers right and that's just and you think joe i got eight joe i got eight joe and i ain't listen hey hold on listen to me this this let me tell you while i'm joe let me tell you what i'm grateful though, Joe.

37:58Unc just ran off them numbers, right? Boy, I ain't never seen and never had to do nothing like that, Joe. You know? No private school? None of your kids went to private school, none of that? Nah, nah, nah, nah, Joe. Joe, my kid needed character. It's a different time now though, Ocho.

38:13Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, my kid needed character, Joe. It's a different time. Yeah. Even now, Ocho, what you was paying, you probably have to double that. Even just because the cost of living is higher. You're talking about 15, 18, 20 years now. go so you know what the cost is right now yeah obviously the cost of living has gone up so is the cost of raising a child it's going it's high hey hey joe hey some of them numbers aren't was uh ripping off too you know them people them the type of people you know having kids by certain people it ain't really about the child in the first place yeah that's what i mean come on now come on now yeah can you add can you imagine having to pay for a child 50 000 a month 100 ,000 a month?

38:58Yeah. Two years old? What the hell? What we doing? Uh-huh. Boy. The fact that they grant that to some people. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Because it's based off the income.

39:11Shannon Sharpe:It's mind-boggling. I'm like, man, how somebody need 30, 40, 50K a month for a child, bro? I know a guy that was paying in the early 2000s was playing 14 ,000 a month. I know. Yeah, I know a few cats. who paying more than that? 14 ,000 a month. I know a dude paying 17 ,000 a month, 22 ,000 a month. I'm like, man. But you know,$168 ,000 a year. It's where you file it too though. Where they have them kids at. Now there are some states that the map is capped. You can only get X amount. You might only get 3 ,500. You only get 5 ,000. Right. And then some states, they base it on how much the father makes.

39:56Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But I'm saying. And they make you responsible for the private tuition because they say if the child, the child should be afforded a life that if the child was with you, that the child wouldn't enjoy without you. Absolutely. Now I ain't telling you what somebody told me. I'm telling you, see, y 'all can talk about a whole lot. Don't know what he talking about? Yeah. Bull jive. Yeah. I'm with you when you write. Aye, aye, boy, that's aye. I'm glad I'm glad boy those I had kids from boy they wasn't like that man yeah Joe I'm Joe I'm getting on my knee cause I just just it make me cringe hearing the numbers that I'm growing off and also I'm present Joe I'm active Joe and that's my thing Ocho it's like these numbers I'm telling y 'all I done heard about cats paying man they they almost got custody of their kids and they still paying and still paying this amount.

40:50Shannon Sharpe:Absolutely. You get the kids during the summer, you get the kids for one to two months, guess what? You still got to send that same money. Copenhagen Spit Free packs American-grown tobacco into pouches. Made for when your elbow's deep in an engine block. They're masked up, torching deep cuts into stubborn pipes. Her helmet's on, riding deep into backcountry. When there's no time or space to spit, Grab Copenhagen's spit-free pouches. Find them in stores today. Not all varieties available in all geographies. Warning, this product can cause mouth cancer. Do you know the symptoms of moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea or OSA in adults with obesity?

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43:38Shannon Sharpe:Oh, y 'all, we got to come back to this. We got to welcome the game. He led a game-winning drive. He was 19-33, 172 yards of touchdown. And a 27-24 victory over the Falcons added another 44 yards on the ground and a score. Here he is. The best-dressed man in the NFL. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Tyrod Taylor. TT, what's going on? You're muted. You're muted, Tyrod. What's happening? What's happening? What's up? What? We good, man. how you do. Congratulations on the big time. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Bro, tell us what happened. Okay, you backed the pants. They got you. They grabbed you by the sleeve.

44:16Shannon Sharpe:You know you can't wear no loose sleeves like that. They got me tight. It was cold out there, man. Hey, you like, hey, I'm going to come up out of this sleeve. Hey, you can have the sleeve, but I'm gone. Facts, facts. Nah, it was a crazy play. Leonard Floyd, obviously, great reach. But yeah, just try to make a play. Obviously, can't take a sec. On a naked, he did a great job of redirecting and getting his hand on me. But at the same time, I can't go down. So get out of there. I took a shot on that play, but definitely couldn't take the sack, get the ball out of my hands. Yeah, most definitely.

44:48What is that feeling like, T-Man? Obviously, things haven't been going that well for the Jets. You get the opportunity to be at the helm, to be that leader, to be that quarterback of that group despite things going well, everyone talking trash on the outside. What does it feel like to get a win like that today? It felt amazing. One thing I'll say about our team all season, we've kind of ignored the outside noise. We haven't blinked. We've been in just about every game that we played, but we just haven't consistently put something together in all three phases. And I think today we was able to do that.

45:21So definitely proud of the locker room, the guys we've been through a ton, whether it's been injuries, trades here and there, on the wrong sides of certain games. But, yeah, nobody blinked. And it was good to see the outcome the way it did. Nick Falk had a great field goal at the end to seal the deal. And it just was a great feeling overall. Yeah.

45:45Shannon Sharpe:Tyrod, look, you came in. Obviously, they brought Justin Fields in to be the starter. And you've been a backup since you basically – I mean, you did a great job in Buffalo. People don't realize before Josh Allen, you were the last team to take – you were the last quarterback to take Buffalo to the playoffs. You get to the Chargers. You're about to start. You have a rib injury in preseason. You're going to get an injection. They went a little bit too far in, and you get a punch in the lung. And then you're just like, man, am I ever going to get an opportunity to start again? And you get your opportunity.

46:17Shannon Sharpe:But, you know, you came there kind of to mentor Justin Fields, and if your number is called, be ready. Is that difficult understanding that this young man, like, damn, he just can't seem to catch a break, but I still got to do my damn job. It's definitely tough. But at the same time, I think that's just part of being a pro. I tell guys all the time, I was fortunate when I got drafted to Baltimore to walk into a locker room with so many veteran guys. You had Anquan, you had Ed Reed, you had Ray Lewis, Terrell Silver, even Joe was a few years in at the time. And those guys took me under their wings and just told me how to be a pro, how to attack the day, each and every day.

46:57And I think that that ultimately rubbed off on me into how I approach my day-to-day. And 15 years later, being able to walk into a building, like you say, on one hand, mentoring and teaching the guys, but at the same time, being mentally and physically prepared to go out and lead if called upon.

47:19Shannon Sharpe:Damn, Tyrod, I didn't realize it's been 15. Tyrod said, I'm going to get 20. What the hell? What the hell is it? I mean, have you set a goal? Have you set? Is there a set number of years? Or you just want to... Because it's not like you got a whole lot of rear and tear on your body. Yeah, true that. I never set years. I always set as long as I'm enjoying the game. I'm not playing through anything. Like, through an injury. I enjoy the preparation of a season. Yeah, it's still fun. It's still like I'm begging my mama to take me out to the practice field when I was five years old. So, yeah, I never set a year on it.

47:53That's dope. And you know what I wanted to ask? I want to go inside the locker room a little bit and talk about the team, the morale, and what Aaron Glenn has been able to tell his players. When things aren't going well, you're losing back-to-back games. Most of the games being close games where you guys could have won but weren't able to do enough consistently offensively. How did he get the players not to – how did he not lose the locker room? because most of the time I've been on many, many losing seasons during my team. He played in Cincinnati, Tyrod. We understand. Don't do that. My bad, Ocho.

48:30I just want to know, what did Aaron Glenn say to make sure he didn't lose the locker room and have players giving up out there? The main thing is just keeping our standard and our brand of football the same. Obviously, this is a results business game, and you want to win week in and week out. But when you're shifting the culture and the guys are so young in the locker room, It's about creating a standard first. I mean, that's about how you practice and learning how to win. A lot of teams in this league don't know how to win. And I would say Coach Glenn has done a great job over the course this year of just keeping the main thing the main thing, not necessarily being results-based, but coming in and asking a certain standard to us day in and day out.

49:12And guys have responded well. We got a lot of respect for Coach Glenn, and he's a great leader for us.

49:20Shannon Sharpe:Tyrod look the last game you played I think it was a Thursday night game and Mitch had some tough drops he had a couple of plays that he could have made that might have and and and uh A.G. spoke about it after the game but you didn't seem to have a problem today because he made a big catch like a 50 something yarder uh touchdown he split the seam and you felt very comfortable what did you tell him because he had to be down himself because he had kind of fell out of favor in in the Colts, and he was a part of the package that sent sauce to Indy. He came over to you guys. What did you say, like, to keep his spirits up, to have him to come out and have a game like he did?

49:54Yeah, AD is a guy that he knows the type of talent that he has, and he wants to get it right. I mean, he's at the facility to 8 o 'clock on the jugs, catching off the wall. He's always working on his craft. So when you see a guy that put that type of work in, he's intentional about the things he does. And, I mean, everyone has a bad game or off game here and there. But that kid is special. And looking forward to him being a big part of this offense moving forward.

50:22Shannon Sharpe:You guys are 3-9. I don't know if there's a chance that you can sneak into the playoffs. But how do you stay so positive, Tyrod? Because you keep mentioning being professional. The process is the process. The standard is the standard. And there's an expectation that, as a professional, you must be a pro. professional, you're an NFL player. A pro is how you go about doing your business on a daily basis, even when things aren't going well. Yeah, the main thing for us is just staying, like I said, sticking to our process day to day, taking it one game at a time. At three and nine, not necessarily looking at what the rest of the season looks like.

50:59Focus on going out and having a great Wednesday this week and being 1-0 this week, not trying to get five in a row. It starts with one game. You can't get five in a row without starting with the first game. So for us, it's about ignoring the noise, and I think we have a good locker room and the type of guys that can do so. And I mean, at the end of the season, look up and see what we've done. Yeah, I like it. I mean, they got the Dolphins coming up. You know, got the Dolphins coming up. Yeah, Tyron said, we got them.

51:33Shannon Sharpe:We got to start. He said, you can't get the five in a row until we got the first one. So now we got to get the two in a row. So we get the two in a row. We go, hey, we see. Where's that game at? They play out there in New York or New Jersey. One on. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. You know, Dolphins don't like cold water. They don't like the cold. It's not right. They don't like the cold. I'm just saying. Hold on. They like cold water. They don't like cold weather. Hey, no, uh. Ain't no Dolphins in no cold weather. Because if they're cold weather, the water's cold. Okay. They're mammals. My bad. Last I checked, they ain't got no fur.

52:05They ain't got no fur, but they always in cold water. No, they not. Okay, we'll argue about that later. We'll argue about that later.

52:14Shannon Sharpe:Tyron, thanks for joining us, man. Congratulations on a great win, man. Great game-winning drive to get that dub. Jets moved to 3-9 thanks to a 27-24 victory over the Atlanta Falcons, man. Congratulations. Hey, get your boy a ticket to the Met Gala. All right. God damn. Put a word in for me. Just put a word in for me. That's all they put away. So how you going to ask him for a ticket to the Met Gala? And we're supposed to be a team. What? Once they get me the call, I'm going to say, can I get a plus one? No, you're supposed to say that off jump, man. Hey, get one for me and my boy. Ocho, Ocho, I can't see.

52:49Shannon Sharpe:If I say both of us, you're going to want to bring somebody. And I got to bring you. So you're my plus one. I ain't going to bring nobody. That's why I'm saying you're my plus one because I'm not even. You're not even in the fashion like me and our entire. You're not even in the fashion like that. You give me my 5 ,900, I would be. I'd give me some Chromeheart or something. Hey, Ty, what can I get for 5 ,900 from Chromeheart? Nothing. About a pair of socks. Yeah. Yeah, you're okay. Yeah, you're right. I ain't into fashion like that. If that's all I can get, I ain't into fashion. Tyron, congratulations, man.

53:23Shannon Sharpe:Give some rest. Good luck the rest of the season. Stay healthy. And we'll talk to you soon. I appreciate it, man. Love, man. Love. All right, bro.

53:35Shannon Sharpe:Uh, Jerry Judy didn't exactly calm things down over the week when asked by the media about the Shadour sideline exchange. In fact, Cleveland is up in arms over him saying it's the media's fault. He's picking fights with reporters and his own Browns teammates. Let's take a listen, Ocho, to what he had to say. Probably talk to him off camera, you know? That's probably what I would have done differently, you know? Of course, I'm going to speak to my mind and tell me what, and say what I need, what I see out there. but you know it is what it is footballing man just me and Shaddao are good you know stuff like that happens you know y 'all gonna make it bigger than what it is you know cause it's the media you know that's what y 'all feed off of negativity you know but it is what it is this is the life you live so you know we move on from it and I live a real life you know so what happened around in this locker room you know just real not what's going on on social media and everything so me and Shaddao are good everything good Everything is magnified.

54:37Everything is magnified, especially when you're losing. Obviously, all the turmoil, all the questions, all the... Nor they, because everything was magnified.

54:45Shannon Sharpe:Was it magnified because... What about the Eagles? It was magnified. I see. Their situation is magnified because even though they were winning during that time, you had issues. You had certain people, individuals coming out, having their displeasures, posting stuff on social media. So it created a firestorm. So it gave the media something to talk about. Over there, over there in Cleveland, obviously the interaction between Judy, the animated interaction between Judy and goddamn Sanders on the sideline is something not new, but it's new to them. It's new to them. Two players that are not on the same page and their way of communicating, it wasn't the right way to communicate.

55:30It wasn't the right way. Now, if they were winning, and they were playing well all season long, oh, it wouldn't be no problems. Some that they just sweep right up under the rug. But listen, Shadour's second start, two of them, they going at it on the sideline. Oh, we got a motherfucking story now. Yeah, talk to me, baby.

55:52Shannon Sharpe:Why he got to be the media? The media job is to report what it sees. Absolutely. you got these demonstrative antics what do you think they think and I told you it could have been nothing Ocho but when you get animated like this and all Shadour was sitting down and then all of a sudden Shadour stands up and says what do you think just say look guys I could have handled that situation better I'm the vet in this situation I should have handled that situation a lot better than what I did I saw something one way he saw it another way whatever differences we had that could have been resolved behind closed doors I was always conscious of that because I know you know I'm demonstrative because I already know so now you start yelling I start yelling you say something and the one thing I don't ever want to go across a bridge that I can't go back across you say something in the heat of the moment you know drunk kids and angry people will tell you how they truly feel about you.

56:58Shannon Sharpe:So you have to be careful when you're angry about what you say. So I was always conscious of that. If I had something to say to the quarterback, be it John, be it Grease, be it Tony Banks, Trent, Jake Plummer, I always like, man, bro, this is what I was thinking. And so forth and so on. But by the same token, I expected them to, you know, to give me that kind of grace also. because I promise you, you show me up, you're not going to like my response now. Right, right, right. Because if you bring it to me, I got to give it back to you plus if it's handling it because I got to make sure you get it because I don't want anybody to say, well, I didn't get what you was, yeah, you got this here.

57:40Shannon Sharpe:So that's why I was always conscious, knowing the camera was around, even not as many cameras as they have now, Ocho, but I understood people in the stands, you getting animated, they getting animated, ain't nothing going to come with that. I told you, I told you it happened to me one time. Yeah, just like that. But mine was in the field of play. We Monday night football. We playing the Steelers. I'm already frustrated because they're not able to get me the ball. Everything they doing, Ike right in front of me, safety over top. So you already know I'm frustrated. So the ball, when I do get the balls, I mean, the balls that do come to me, it's going to be very few.

58:19And the one, boy, I'm open. I beat the double team. The ball is not supposed to come to me. I told Carson on this, just give me a shot. I'm finna work these boys. And Unk, he overthrew, he overshot it a little bit. And long behold, you know, the camera already on me. Man, you know, I already keep one chin strap already unbuckled. Man, I snapped the other one. I'm mad going back to the huddle. Carson met me. Carson met me halfway. Before you got off the field. Before I get off the field. if you ever motherfucking show me up like that again I won't throw you another motherfucking ball the rest of the game just like that not playing no games but I ain't say nothing the rest of the game I ain't say nothing the rest of the game because I understood who had the control and being able to get that ball to me yeah but one time it took me one time never had an issue again

59:18Shannon Sharpe:because I know how I am Mojo look I understand his job isn't easy it's not but I'm like man I wanted to say some stuff but nah I'm not going to show him up because you know what happens you show the guy up he throw it to you you drop it the ball goes through your hands then it gets picked Not everybody looking at you sideways. You say you wanted it. He threw it to you, you threw it back at him. Or you gave it to the other guy. I was always mindful of that, Ocho. I really am. And even in the – I remember in college I used to like, just throw it. Just throw it out there. And I was just like – Coach Dave would grab me and say, son.

1:00:07I said, coach, we go over this every day in practice.

1:00:11Shannon Sharpe:They can't guard me. that's all I'm saying coach just give me a chance just put it up

1:00:20but

1:00:22Shannon Sharpe:I just like like I said everybody is not as versed as dealing with the media because you understand Ocho

1:00:36it's a skill to that

1:00:38Shannon Sharpe:it is Ocho I was very very fortunate because I remember in college, I'm standing in front of the mirror. I'm talking to myself. They ask me a question. I had a good game. This is how I'm going to respond. If I had a bad game, I had a couple of drops. I missed some assignments. This is how I'm going to do it. So by the time I got there, I'm like, okay. I'm looking at other guys. I see Steve Atwater, how he talked. I see Dennis Smith, how he talked. I hang around a little while and watch Elway, see how he talked to the media. I'm like, okay. Okay, a little bit of, okay. try to stay level, try to stay, you know, even keel, not get, not get, you know, too disappointed.

1:01:17Shannon Sharpe:Obviously. Yeah. Sometimes I'm not going to have a, I'm not going to have a game. I'm going to have a drop or two in a, in a, in a tough spot, but just trying to just like, just to be level, just to be understanding they got a job to do. I understand we all have jobs to do. Even though I didn't do my job to the best of my ability, that doesn't excuse me from not helping you do your job. I always understood that. And I tried to be professional. always tried to be professional in that aspect of it. But it's not easy when you're not playing well and people are like, well, the guy might have played better if such and such would have played better.

1:01:54Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I don't know. It's just – but social media is hard now, Ocho. I don't know. Would I have had fun with social media? Yeah, I probably would have took some shots at some guys I'm playing against. absolutely because that's just my nature I couldn't help it let me see you know what's funny is I didn't need social media I used the media to take my shots but you have to understand see you and I were a little different so my comparison as far as taking shots I would use a comparison with me and Steve Smith Sr Steve Smith Sr he taking shots and he meant that like he meant every word he said if he's talking about somebody now my taking shots I'm taking shots and sending gifts to the secondary as a whole.

1:02:39You already know it's entertainment. You already know it's entertainment. It's more of an invitation as to the competition and making sure, boy, you better be on your P's and Q's come Sunday. Better be on your better behavior. Listen, I already gave you bulletin-to-board material. Now it's up for you to be able to stop it. That's all I mean. But, oh, man, well, if I could do it again, I'd do it the same way and add some more to it. Hey, I done came up with some great ideas. Watching today's game that I wish I was still playing, I can go back and implement it then.

1:03:15Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Man, Smitty, man, Smitty, man, Smitty. I've been watching Smitty because I played a couple years. Like I said, my last year in Baltimore, I went to the Pro Bowl, which was his first year, which was 2001. Smitty's first year was 2001. one. He was at the Pro Bowl. He was at the Pro Bowl as a return of that year. So that was my really first introduction to him. And you know, he was always, he was always, he was always, he's been always cool to me. He's always been respectful. He's always been great. But man, just watching him play, he angry. He played like he's 6 '5". He is, he's literally angry.

1:03:51Shannon Sharpe:Now he'll catch a touchdown. And if it means that if I catch this touchdown and celebrate, I got to whip your ass in the corner of the end though, I'll do that too. If I got to fight you in the middle of the field, hey man, no, he about that. You got to understand, hey chat, I don't know if y 'all know, does the chat know that Steve and I played at Santa Monica Junior College in LA? We played on the same team. So what the people, what the world saw once he got to the NFL, hell, I saw that in 1997 and 1998 in LA. He was the exact same way. He was a pit bull. He was angry. Nobody might not have pissed him off, but his style of play, it was like somebody did something wrong to him.

1:04:31Like somebody pissed him off. Yeah.

1:04:34Shannon Sharpe:And he said, you know, he's dealing with some issues, and, you know, he's gotten counseling, and he got counseling, got better. But he's a lot better now. Man, Smitty used to be like, like, Smitty, damn. All the time, all the time you on 12. Hey, listen, he whooping teammates. He whooping his teammates. He whooping the other team. You know, it don't matter who it is. Yeah. he like sharp man don't play with me hey when he say don't play with him and leave that alone he mean that now don't let that size fool you everybody be talking they talk reckless now he still on that type of time now absolutely he still on that type of time

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