Best of NFL News Part 2: Tomlin BLASTS Flacco Trade, Dak PAY CUT?, Micah COMPLAINING?!

23:36Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Dak Prescott said he plans to speak with Jerry Jones about the importance of keeping George Pickens with the Cowboys beyond this season. I've been a little busy, but I will when I run into him in that time of privacy. I'll make sure. But here's the thing, though, Jack. Running in, okay, you want to keep him. Are you willing to take less than your 60 mil? Because, okay, you got 60. George Pickens is going to want max dollars. He's like, because this is his first bite of the apple, he's going to say, Dak, you've had three bites at the apple. I've never had a big bite of the apple. And I'm going to take as big a bite as I possibly can.

24:14Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, I might be a horse. I might eat the whole damn apple. Damn, a bite. I want the whole damn apple. So that's the question. You know, you want all these great players. That's what Brady did. You see what Mahomes is doing. The question is, are you willing to take a little haircut? I'm not saying you got to give him$20 million, but I'm saying are you willing to take, say, if you can get$63,$64 million, are you willing to take$57? So George Pickens can get his 30, because he's going to want somewhere between$32 and$36 million. That's what George Pickens is going to want. Because he see what DK got.

24:51Shannon Sharpe:He see what Terry McLaurin got. And I guarantee you, George Pickens believe he's every bit as good as DK Metcalf and Terry McLaurin. He is. He is. And I'm not sure Dak is, depending, I'm not sure Dak has already got his money already. No, Dak got one more year on that contract or is he up? But I think he has a monster cap number. I think he got something like$80 million in cap. Yeah, Dak done got paid. I don't see him doing that. I would like him to allow Pick. So what's his cap number next year, Dak? That's his cap number to$74 million. Oh, yeah, they got to do something with that. His cap here to$74 million, Ocho.

25:39Shannon Sharpe:You got to redo that deal. Damn. You got to redo that. In 68.

25:50What you think?

25:51Shannon Sharpe:Oh, bro, you got to do – oh, you definitely – they definitely – they definitely – they're definitely going to redo that deal. They're not going to let that man play. What? But what do you think, though? Do you think Dak will take less to be able to keep pick? That's what Jerry's going to ask him. You mean Dak going to ask Jerry? Excuse me. Yes. That's what Jerry's going to ask Dak. Are you willing to take less? so we can ensure we can put better players around you. If Patrick Mahomes doesn't do what he does, you're not able to keep Chris Jones. Right. You're not able to keep the Travis Kelsey and keep it together, Caloctas.

26:28Shannon Sharpe:Hey, they're going to have to do something with Trent McDuffie. Ooh, hey, Trent, nice. Yes. So you're able to keep all these pieces together because you got Creed Humphrey on a big deal. You got your right tackle. Now, you hit it out of the park because your left side looks really good. The left tackle, Simmons, even the guy that came, the backup, did an extremely great job the other night. But you have to give up something, Ocho. It's really that simple. Now, the question is, when we had growing up financially, we struggled. My grandma said, boy, what's going to be this month? The phone, the light, or the gas?

27:16Shannon Sharpe:One or the other. I can't pay them all, son. It's really that simple. Hey, you need the phone in case we got to call somebody? The light so you can do your homework? Yeah. Or you and your brother going to have to go down there and chop wood. We pull that heat away from the fireplace? Hey. And we go cut down a tree? we paid. It's really that simple. So that's what you want. You want to be the highest paid quarterback or you want to be sixth or seventh and have talent around you to help you because guess what, Ocho? You're going to need some defensive help too. Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But I think me, honestly, allow Pick to go get his thing.

28:05Allow Pick to go get what he's deserving of. And I don't think Jerry is going to open up his pocketbook like that and cut the check that he's deserving of getting.

28:17Shannon Sharpe:Oh, his agent is the same guy that represented Michael Parsons. Oh, yeah. David Moolagata. Yeah, we're going to let Pitt go. We need to go and get his money over there in Las Vegas. Over there in Las Vegas. They'll pay. Now, the question is, you know, Ocho, normally when you go in free agency, everybody don't have the luxury like A.J. Brown. A.J. went from Tennessee to Philly. So a team that was perennial in the playoffs, you know, he went there. Normally in free agency to go get big bucks, you generally have to go somewhere in Ocho that's – they ain't on the come. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

29:04Shannon Sharpe:But the question is, Ocho, the question again, 35, 36 million, probably 75, 80 million guaranteed. I see you in Vegas. Hey, I see you in Vegas. Everybody got this. It's my turn. But this is what I do hope, Ocho. I'm hoping they don't do this. Tag him. No, come on. No, no, no, no. I just, Ocho, I just got, I've tried to prepare you for everything. Because I already know you're going to flip out. So I'm just going to prepare you. What's the day's date? The day is the 16th, Thursday the 16th. I'm just preparing you for that, Ocho. Damn. Hey, listen, I hear you. I understand you're preparing, but let's not play that game.

29:52Let's not play that game. Because if you tagging me, let me know you don't value me. You don't think I'm worth what I can get on the open market. Don't tag me. Don't do that.

30:02Shannon Sharpe:That's what I, I'm a firm believer in that, Ocho. Hold on. Let's see what I'm worth. You don't think I'm worth what I'm asking for? Let me go. And you know, and Jerry has had that conversation with a lot of players. Here, we're going to let you go on. We're going to let you explore the open market and come back and tell us what they think of you. There are a few times when you let a guy, because the team's going to overbid for him, because they already know what I've got to do. Now, first of all, it might be a little easier because it's going to be harder for them, Dallas, if they let him test the open market, it's going to be harder because Pick doesn't have an attachment to Dallas.

30:39Shannon Sharpe:He's only there for a year. So he might be viewing it as a rental, Ocho. Hey, I'm staying in this rental property. Instead of getting me a house, they got these apartments that's already furnished. Yeah. Hey, listen. So he's not entrenched in the community. He hasn't been there for four or five years. I don't know if he's married or has a fiance or girlfriend or whatever the case may be, but he doesn't, I don't know if he has that there. I don't know if he has kids there. So he's not entrenched like somebody that's been there six or seven years. So it's easier. It's a lease with an option to buy.

31:17It's a lease with an option to buy. And I prefer you're in that lease and going somewhere where you can get what you deserve. Like every other receiver at your position has. Everybody else got theirs. Oh, yeah, for sure. And you deserve to be paid like a number one. Now, the Cowboys already have a number one receiver. And the one thing that they're going to say upstairs over there in Jerry's world is, well, we already paid C.D. Lamb extra amount of dollars. We don't view you as such because we already have a number one. We already have a number one. Okay. You already know the game they're going to play.

31:51Shannon Sharpe:But it would be hard, Ocho, because of what they gave him. What did they give him, a third-round pick for a pick or a fourth? to give that up for him and just basically keep him as a rental for a year. So that's why I think Jerry might be more apt to sign him. Jerry loves offense. So if a player was to get some money, they gave him a third and a fifth. And that's the next year's draft because he was signed. They traded for him after the draft. So he gave him a third and a fifth in 2026. okay then you have to think it all comes to Dak as well what is Dak willing to do how much less is Dak willing to not to take so they can sign pick and then defense you need defensive players you do not a question is Ocho if you go out and fringe you know you got to overpay do you believe you can hit it in the draft market you believe you can draft the guy or because you got two first rounders you're not finna draft no who you gonna draft that gonna make a difference you need a statement piece on that defense listen when you put your clothes on when you put your clothes on this for everybody in the chat when you put your clothes on I know I know some women in there I know some fellas in here too when you put your clothes on you gotta have one thing that stands out that's a statement piece Dallas Cowboys defense needs a statement piece it could be a D tackle it could be a corner It could be a safety, but you got, you need it.

33:26Your statement piece gone over there at the green.

33:29Shannon Sharpe:I don't know about you, Ochoa. When I put my clothes on, I'm the statement. I feel, I'm saying. Yes, I got nice jewelry. I got accessible. Right, right, right, right, right. But it got to be a statement piece. Listen, when a woman gets dressed, right? Yes. When a woman gets dressed, there are two things that make, that for her, that is the statement piece. It's either your bag or your heels. one or the other. You're right, Ocho. Ocho, you ain't wrong when you're right. Yeah, talk to me, man. I'm just saying. I can't talk to you like I want to. 26. I'm going to talk to you in 26. Right now, I'm on probation.

34:07Shannon Sharpe:I'm still on probation, Ocho. 26, y 'all. Up back. Up back. My probation officer, he be checking in. He be watching this show. Okay. I'm going to have to write you up. Yeah. Okay. You good. You good? You good? Yeah. The 26th, you know, I had to do like 12 months. Right. 12? Yeah, I had to do 12 months probation. All right. Well, how long we got? What? Two months we got? What, we in October? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably around, probably like April, May 26th. I'm out like a scout on a new route. But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You ain't got to wait that long, though. You know why you ain't got to wait that long?

34:46Why we ain't got to wait that long? Listen, when that ball drop on New Year's. Ball drop. When the ball drop, you good to go. You know why? What they say? Why ask laughing? What they say? Oh, listen. They letting you off a good time serve. A good time? Yeah, when you behave.

35:02Shannon Sharpe:They say they'll give me three days for every good day. I've been good. It's like the fans. Because the fans give you like 54 days for every year. For every year you serve. I'm just saying. So, hey, January 26th, January 1st, man, you good to go, man. We back to normal. I turned off news altogether. I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little. NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News, reporting for America. Summer is here.

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39:26Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, earlier today, Micah sounded off on how he's officiated and refs in general. Let's take a listen to what Micah had to say. You know, five years of not getting a call, you'll eventually stop worrying about it. You know, but, you know, I think I just got to keep going. That's just, that's the hunt. Yeah, like that's part of the challenges. Like you just got to keep going. And that's bothersome. That worries them. They know that like that's the part of being one of the best. You know, that comes with some territory where the parts that you hate and the parts that the league, let's go. They know, like, I mean, you can tell how they call the games.

40:08They don't call offsides for offense, but they'll call on defense. They won't call offensive pass and affairs, but they'll call defensive pass and affairs. I mean, like, we know what they're trying to do. They want to load the points up so fans can be happy and, you know what I mean? They'll call defensive holding, but they won't call offensive holding. Like, let's just wake up. It's just one of those things that we know what the higher-ups is trying to do. Like, the ref would say, I know that's a hole, but what? Like, you're not going to call it? Like, come on. Like, it's just one of those things that, like, I'm over it, and I would just have to keep going, push through it.

40:46Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, he knows. He's like, you know what? I should stop. I shouldn't say anymore. But he can't help himself. Now, Chad, you tell me the great defensive player, the great defensive player. If you're my age, let's just say you're between the ages of 60 and 25. Tell me the great defensive player, and we believe Michael Parsons is a great defensive player, that you've heard them complain about being hell. The LTs, the Reggie Weiss, the Bruce Smith, the Derrick Thomas, rest your soul, the Vaughn Millers, the Aaron Donalds, the J.J. Watts. tell me the great defensive player that you heard have a microphone get up on the platform and complain that they're not getting calls yeah you you can't do that huh you can't do that as a player i mean i'm thinking about i'm thinking about myself as a receiver i ain't complaining about no holding because i'm getting here that's my fault that's my fault michael parsons is too good he's too great at his position he's too great at what he does and obviously on the on the other thing on the flip side of things, referees are graded.

41:56Those referees want to be able to call that Super Bowl. So the better... Playoff Super Bowl absolutely. Listen, that's a check. That's money for them. So they want to make as many calls as possible based on what they can see with the naked eye. Do they miss some calls sometimes? Of course. It's human error. It happens. But they want to grade as high as possible so they can be in those playoff games. So they can, so their team as a unit can be in the Super Bowl. They're graded. So they're not just missing calls on purpose, but also as a player, a player of your magnitude, man, you shouldn't worry about that.

42:30If you get in hell, that's on you.

42:32Shannon Sharpe:I don't think I've ever, and I could be wrong, and my memory's pretty good, I think I could have great recall. I don't think I've ever publicly complained, man, they was holding all game and they ain't calling. Man, they been holding me all year. I'm going to play through that. You call it, you call it. That ain't my job. Because what's going to happen, I'm going to all of a sudden start worrying about the cause. They're going to throw the ball and go beat me up. Hit me all in the chest, all upside the head. And then what? Then people are going to be like, was he holding on that one or did you just drop it?

43:06Shannon Sharpe:Right. Don't complain, bro. Micah, you too good. Way too good. You're way too good for this. So guess what? Now, Ocho, I'm going to keep my pocket sold in my pocket now. I ain't finna pull it out. Right. You're trying to put us on blast. Michael, you too good. If you want to be thought of as one of these greats, I mean, let's just take your error. Miles Garrett ain't complaining. TJ Watt ain't complaining. These guys ain't complaining. Michael, you're too good. Who cares about what they're doing with the tush push? You're not there. When you have to defend it, then you worry about that. You don't have to defend it.

43:48Shannon Sharpe:They don't listen. First of all, they're not listening to players. First of all, you're not a quarterback. They listen to nothing you got to say. They only listen to quarterbacks. That's why they changed the rules. That's why they let them have the balls. It used to, you get one day, now they get the balls for the whole week. Now you can't hit the quarterback in the head. Now you can't hit the quarterback in the knees. You can't tackle them below the weights in the pocket. They listen to quarterbacks. They don't listen to other players. Because if they did, they wouldn't have the rules that they have that's weighted against the defense.

44:15Shannon Sharpe:But come on, Micah, man. You got to stop this, bro. Right. And the funny thing about it is the game now in this era is changed. It's handicapped. It's handicapped in the way in favor of the offense. Correct. You already know that. It's as deep as a player. Just continue to play. Play through contact. Play through the holes. Those calls are going to come. They're going to come. Don't even worry about it. Just continue to play as well as you always do. That's it. Play to what we know you can do. Being one of the best at your position is the reason why you paid as much as you are. Ocho, what you do is that you have your coach, you have your video department, cut it up, the holding calls, have your head coach to send it in.

44:59Shannon Sharpe:That's what you do. Hey, I'm going to take it out of my hands. But have the video department. That's what everybody else does. I guarantee you that's what the Steelers does. That's what the Cleveland Browns does. Anybody that has a pass rusher, this is what they do. Okay, if I got a good receiver and I believe he's getting help, I'll cut it up and I'll send it to the official. Here are the plays that we believe he was held in this game. These are the plays that we believe the guy got outside. These are the plays. That's what you do. But you, because people are going to look at you like you're complaining.

45:32Shannon Sharpe:Like the reason why, because now I think he got one sack, maybe two sacks, and people are like, oh, you're making$47 million a year and we're all six games in and you got one sack, you got two sacks? Yeah. It's going to look like you're complaining. And I don't think Micah's a complainer. I know he's frustrated because when you get that kind of big money, man, Ocho, you know, you've gotten paid. The one thing you want to do, you want to go show the world why they paid you the big dollars. Mm-hmm. And I ain't tried to like, hey, the moment I get that money, oh, man, Ocho got paid. Well, yeah, let me go on out here and drop me about a 150 and two tubs of it.

46:07Shannon Sharpe:Hey, quick. Let them know why they paid me. Hey, quick and hurry, and don't care who out there, and don't care who holding. If I get here, it's my fault. I ain't doing something like that. Yep. And that's how Micah's going to have to look at it. But I think the thing is that when you do it something like this, people are going to look at you like, man, Micah whining. He's complaining. And the other team's like, hey, hold him. Make him call it. Make him call it. And then all he's going to do is he's going to get more and more frustrated. So just play through it, Micah. You're too good of a player to let stuff like this.

46:43Shannon Sharpe:I get it. I know you're frustrated. First of all, I don't believe Micah. I don't believe this is what this is how you this is why you got to be careful with what you say because when things weren't going his way where he said he tweeted he wanted he wanted to get traded he put on x he wanted to get traded I no longer want to be a cowboy he said he said that Ocho a lot of times we say it all the time Ocho when emotionless high logic is low be careful there's power in the tongue yeah yeah he said he wanted that's not what he really wanted he wanted to put the pressure on the Cowboys. But you had already backed Jerry in the corner.

47:20Shannon Sharpe:Jerry wasn't backing down. Right. You already had backed the man in the corner. He felt he had a handshake deal. And now you come in and I'm just telling you what Jerry felt. Jerry is a, man, first of all, you know how people empower, people in position of power, people that have money. They ain't backing down now. Hold on. You're not finna bully not many owners. On nothing. Not many owners. Absolutely. not. No. No. So, that's what happened. But Micah, just keep playing. You understand, sacks are like bananas and grapes. They come in bunches. Oh, yeah. Hey, you might go a game or two and not get any.

48:03Shannon Sharpe:And then you'll go three games where you'll have six. Yep. And the next day, you know, you look up like, damn, Micah got seven sacks? Uh-huh, that fast. And that's just how it happens. It always happens like that. Yes. It always happens like that. Hell, sometimes you're going to get your, hey, I go two for 35. I go four for 60. Damn, man. Man, in one game, man, shoot, 11, 260. Six for 190. Well, God damn, what happened? There you go. That's what I was on Joe. Every time. Matter of fact, small example. Look at Chase. Two weeks ago, 40 yards. Yep. Look at the past two weeks. It's the nature of the business.

48:53It's the nature of the game. It always happens like that. You're not going to go crazy every week, no matter how great you are.

48:58Shannon Sharpe:No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But they're going to, you know. I mean, but here's the thing. Chase Crazy is 16. His good sense, he get nine. That's the thing. You look at him against Green Bay, he had nine. Like, damn, we slowed him down. Now he popped off with 16. He got 25 catches in two games. So where he was, you're like, man, hey, Chase ain't winning no triple crowd this year. Yeah. You sure about that? Yeah. You sure? Because he done popped off again. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing what happens when you get a quarterback. 40 years old, 50 years old, if you can throw and sling the ball and they can keep you upright so you can deliver said ball, this is what you get.

49:45And it's not easy because we had Jake Browning. No, but. Well, hell, he should be able to do it. No, now you take Joe Flacco, who got benched in Cleveland, and you put him here at a Bengals offense with elite talent around him at the receiver position, a decent running back, an offensive line that everybody's been talking trash about, and they play their part. That's it. If we are going to win, everything starts up front.

50:14Shannon Sharpe:Everything. And look, do your job. Whatever your job is, whatever your job, whatever is required you to do to do your job, that's what you got to do. I'm not worried. Listen, I'm not worried about the offensive line because that ain't my job. Right. Now, when it comes to my time, I got to pass block. Now I got to worry about it. Okay, what we got? Am I Gilligan? Am I on an island? Where am I protected at? Sharpie, I got you inside. So I can sit heavy outside knowing I got help inside. Yeah. If I ain't got no help inside, I got to sit down inside, and then hopefully I can run his ass by the quarterback, the quarterback can step up.

50:51Shannon Sharpe:But you just got to do your job. I can't worry about it. I can't worry about what the safety doing or what the linebacker doing or what the DN doing, Ocho. I got to worry about what A4 doing. That's it. Because at the end of the day, I'm getting graded. I'm getting graded on what I'm doing, not whether or not worried about what somebody else is doing. Yeah.

51:12Shannon Sharpe:Tua apologized for criticizing teammates for being late to a players-only meeting. Let's take a listen to what Tua had to say. Here's his full statement. I made a mistake, and I'm owning up to that right now. I've talked to guys on the team about it, talked to the leaders about it.

51:32They know my heart. they know that the intent was right, but no matter the intent, you know, the intent can be right, but when things get misconstrued or however the media wants to portray it, you know, that leaves a void of silence and a lot of questions for the guys on our team. Now, being one in five, you know, we talk a lot about, all right we we got to get this going we got to get this going come in excited to go to work forget about the noise and I feel like I I just added on to that for for our guys um you know for for myself I got to look at myself as as the leader protecting the team I don't feel like I I did that to the best of my abilities I felt like I let the emotions of the game get to me after the game.

52:26And, you know, that's something that I can learn from as a leader on this team. And what happens in-house should be protected. And none of that should have gotten out. And so want to publicly apologize about that. Want to move forward. And now I want to focus on Cleveland Browns. Hey, I love Tua. I love him to death. You know, I love what he stands for. I love what he represents. Being one in five, you also have to be self-aware. It's all is all about being self-aware. If you have meetings, if you have things that go inside, go on in-house, they have to stay in-house. You should know that, whether you're 5-1 or 1-5.

53:06There are certain things that you don't talk about to the media. As a quarterback, as a leader of that team, as a person with that C on your chest, it is your duty to protect those that are in that locker room. It's your duty. So to put it out there in the media and say what some of the other players are doing or haven't done, that is, you know what? I'm not going to use the word. I'm not going to use that word tonight, but you're throwing people under the bus. You can't do that.

53:35Shannon Sharpe:You just can't. You can't always be truthful. Sometimes it's okay not to tell the truth. Come on, man. Here's the problem that I have. I just had to speak that with it, no joke. I just had to speak that with it. You got me. You got me. You got me. No, but in all honesty. Yes, sir. The only problem I have with this, now the media misconstrued it. Yes. How did the players, okay, if you said what you said, the media didn't say anything. Your teammates heard what you said. Yeah. So if anybody misconstrued it, they misconstrued it. Because the media didn't put no spin on it. All they did was have a bunch of microphones and tape recorders there.

54:16Shannon Sharpe:You said what you said unprompted. Yes. Unprompted. So in the use Ocho term, he drives niche. Ain't nobody asked him. Did players come late for practice? Was when you had a players only meeting, the media didn't know nothing about didn't know anything about that. meeting. You brought that up. And then you also brought up that there are players that were late or didn't arrive on time or maybe didn't even come to the meeting at all. You did that. How would you see that's the problem that I have. Just own up to it. And say you know what? I was wrong. Don't add the media. The media didn't do anything.

54:56Shannon Sharpe:All they did was put the microphones in front of you and you volunteered that. So in other words you dry snitch. unprompted information that no one asked you for. Yeah. Now, with that being said, there was no choice. And I saw in the chat someone said if that was Tom Brady or Troy Aikman, everybody would have been there on time. I told y 'all that the other day. They don't respect him as a leader. But y 'all don't want to... See, because I'm not in the locker room, you don't think I know what I'm talking about, but I've been a leader. And I guarantee you, every time I've called a meeting, which wasn't very many or anytime I had something, guys showed up on time.

55:37Shannon Sharpe:On time. Because there was a respect level there that was earned. Mm-hmm. Not what I deserved based on what I had done. Right. I had earned the right to call a meeting. Based on the way I conducted myself, the way I played, the way I practiced, the way I met, and what I had accomplished. So I had earned their respect. Yeah. You're right. And you know what? Matter of fact, if they did have a meeting that they didn't show up to or they weren't on time, and this could be a tall tale on why they didn't. Yeah, for sure. Look what happens. Look, I mean, so there might be an underlying issue that we don't even know about that has been going on.

56:18Shannon Sharpe:Or two. The fact that. The underlying issue. Oh, well. Let's keep it. As two guys that spent time in locker rooms. Yes. That played the game at an extreme high level. He's it. Yeah. It's unfortunate. And you know what? Even though he came out and apologized, it's too late now. Because how do you think that taste, that bad taste that's in those players' mouths that you talked about, that know they were late or weren't on time to that meeting? How do you think other teammates feel? How do you think they're looking at, even though he's a quarterback, how do you think they're viewing you now? It's not the same, Monk, and it will never be the same.

56:55So this makes everything even worse on top of being 1-5. Yes. Forget the football aspect, because now you open up a whole new can of worms.

57:04Shannon Sharpe:I give you a prime example, Ocho. You're in a courtroom. Yeah. One of the attorneys says something. The other attorney stands up and says, I object. Right. The judge says, sustain. How do I make the jury unhear what they heard? They heard it. Whether it's sustained, doesn't matter. Too late. Or he'll allow it. I've already heard what that man wanted me to get out he or she wanted to say so you can't make me unhear what I heard I get the apology the best apology is change behavior we're going to see moving forward the greater the player the greater the leeway is that's with anything yeah first of all when you say Troy Eggman and Tom Brady first of all Tua is not on that level second of all they've garnered so much respect you see how the players went to bat for Troy Tom Brady, that's a whole different animal.

57:57Shannon Sharpe:Don't ever put Tom Brady, he's reserved. There might have been three or four other guys in the history of the game that garnered the respect of Tom Brady. Tua isn't one of those three or four guys. With that being said, you have to be mindful, Ocho, because, and this is what I tell guys that I think at some point in time will be leaders, you don't know who's actually watching you. what you do, what you say, how you do it. Right. But all I can tell you is this. If they see you behave in a certain type of manner and you make money and you get things, they'll behave that same way because they believe that is acceptable behavior.

58:37Shannon Sharpe:Right. So even though you don't know who's watching, if they're watching or why they're watching, just always try to put your best foot forward. That's all you can do. He will learn from this, hopefully, it's hard for me to believe that a guy that played at Alabama played at such a high level at such a prestigious program wouldn't know that you can't throw teammates under the bus that sometimes, Ocho, sometimes, look, and we talk about this, Ocho, all the time. As a coach, sometimes you got to lie to your players. Even if you don't think they can win, hey, we can beat these teams. We can beat them.

59:11Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we do X, Y, and Z. Sometimes you got to lie because sometimes it caused great hurt, harm, or embarrassment. Yes. and it might have caused all three now like you said how do we get that back

59:29Shannon Sharpe:i'm not so sure so because i'm thinking bro when you go home you'll be pillow talking like a mofo yeah it is it's no it's no way there's no way to get that back huh there's no way to get it back there's only one thing that cures everything there's one thing that cures everything when you think i don't know if they could do that my point exactly winning is the only thing that gonna cure it but i still think they won't view him the same in that same light no matter what you're gonna apologize you can say everything you're gonna you can talk to him quite you know privately but once you leave that locker room and you're out of that space that's supposed to give you to worry about any of the bullshit you got to do it with on the outside world right now i gotta deal with it when i come to work my own quarterback right nah man they never gonna look at it the same.

1:00:12Shannon Sharpe:That's why I say that's what quarterbacks court if you notice the most the great quarterbacks. Yeah, no matter how good they play or how bad they play. They always take responsibility. Yeah, when Peyton Manning, they lost the game. Peyton Manning said I got to play better. It's only Brady says I got to play better. It's John Elway and guys would always say I need to play better. They never said even though they played great a drop pass here. Mr. Simon there the defense gave up points late. They always put the onus on themselves. That's a part of being a leader if you're the leader even though somebody made a mistake i'll take it that's on me now i'll call them and say hey we need to make sure this doesn't happen again make sure we get it corrected but this is on me and that's what tua needs to understand you would like to thank a guy that's been the quarterback for an extended period of time at levels he's a high school quarterback normally the quarterback is is is the leader not always but the majority of the time i I would say 80 % of the time, because a lot of times the best player is the quarterback, Ocho.

1:01:12Shannon Sharpe:So he's normally the leader. In college, it probably kicks up 85%. In the pros, I don't know if I've ever seen a starting quarterback that didn't have the seat since they've been allowed it. Have you? No. I haven't either. So with that being said, he just has to be mindful. It's a minefield of what's going on, and it's easy to get frustrated, especially, like you said, when you're losing. You're one and five. because if they're 5-1 and they're 6-0, ain't nobody. We're not having this conversation. Even if guys are coming late, even if guys are late to practice, ain't nobody saying a word. We're not having this conversation.

1:01:47Shannon Sharpe:You should have nipped this in the bud a year ago or two years ago when you were winning and you were allowing guys to show up late. That's when you nip it in the bud, but you allow things in a win. Now it's a problem when you lose. You see, when you lose, Ocho, it's not how we played on the field. It's all the other things. Right. All the other things. Like I said, you don't win a football game on Sunday. You win a football game Monday through Friday. Yes. That's when you win the games in your how we meet. How do we practice? How do we study? How do we prepare? Did we get treatment like we're supposed to?

1:02:24Shannon Sharpe:If we got a little nagging, did we take care of it before it became a big issue? Right. Hopefully, Tua learned his lesson. Yeah. Hopefully, he does. It is tough because if they don't start winning games, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And look, like I said, the greatest apology is change behavior. We're going to see. Go ahead, Ocho. Well, change behavior. It's not change behavior off the field. It's the change behavior on the field. You know what the best story is for his teammates? Your performance. Yes. And how you play. Being the difference maker. Being that you are the quarterback. Being that you do make the most money on the field, that means your level of play has to be up here.

1:03:09It has to be eons above everybody else, especially when you come out and you do something like this. Well, hold on. You can't be stinging out the joint. No. Then go on in front of the camera and tell him what we got going on behind closed doors and then looking like, you know what, out there on the field. No, you can't. You can't. Yeah. It would have been wrong, Ojo. Now you got the whole locker room looking at you funny, Unc. I'm telling you. And I'm not even telling you. He could fix it, but he could fix it with his play. With his play, it'd be all smiles.

1:03:43Shannon Sharpe:If even if he would have been wrong, even if he had thrown for 400 yards and four touchdowns. Yeah. He exacerbated the term aggravate, which means to make worse. He aggravated the situation. It was already bad, Ocho. but he aggravated the situation. Why, Ocho? Because he threw three picks. So he made a situation that was bad. He made it worse with his plate. Yeah, well listen, it was already a fire, right? It was already a fire? Yep. So it was already a fire and he took the goddamn gasoline and threw it on the fire. Mm-hmm. But shit, all it did was make the fire goddamn bigger. It made it worse.

1:04:24Shannon Sharpe:Made it worse. Now you're gonna have hell putting it out. For sure. For sure. Is that me or you, Ocho? What'd I do? I'm right here. I'm looking at you. Oh, okay. Because for a second, I couldn't hear you. Oh, yeah. I'm good. I'm good. You sure? Yeah. You good. And what has happened, Ocho, is that for a fire to burn, it needs oxygen. Ooh. Come on, man. What he gave the fire was oxygen. A lot of. A fire will not burn. A, you can have the biggest fire robbing of its oxygen. You see a candle? Put a jar over the candle. And it can't get any more oxygen. It'll go out. You gave it oxygen. That's why when people say things, Ocho, we have to be careful how we respond because we give it an oxygen.

1:05:21Shannon Sharpe:And it'll keep burning. See, things will burn as long as it has oxygen. Let it die out. He could have just let it die out. I understand that he's seething. I understand that he's upset. You're losing ball games that you don't think you should have lost. Guys are coming in two minutes, five minutes, ten minutes, however many they're late. They're late to me. They're late to practice. You know, it doesn't seem to be important. They're not as attentive as they need to be. Yes, it can get frustrating, especially, especially. Like I said, I don't know what he's actually like. I've been around players that it was the end-all, be-all.

1:05:58Shannon Sharpe:Everybody is not like that, the end-all, be-all. Right. but it was probably bothering him. He's like, well, this is probably why we're losing. Guys are not taking this as serious as they need to. Okay. But if they held you in such high regard, if they respected you as the leader, they're not coming late. No. They're just not. I mean, little things, don't show, hey, man, check this out, man. We need, hey, let's go to the movies. after a workout on Monday, guess what? 15, 20 of us go to the movies. Hey, man, let's go bowling. 15, 20 of us go bowling. It's things like that. But they got to respect you.

1:06:46Guys don't respect you, they're going to blow you off.

1:06:49Shannon Sharpe:It's really that simple. Tua, you're going to have to play better. You're going to have to be better, not just on the field. because leadership is just not a call and play than in the huddle and you got to see on your jersey. It's off the field, Ocho. It's things like that. You suppress things that Mike McDaniel or upstairs don't even know about.

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