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Nightcap Podcast Episode Summary
Podcast Title: Nightcap Episode Title: Best of NFL Part 1: SMEAR CAMPAIGN on George Pickens, NFL Owners SCARED of player Report Cards! Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson Episode Description: The hosts provide unfiltered takes on recent NFL news, including discussions about players, teams, and various controversies in the league.
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Episode Highlights
Introduction
- Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson set the tone for the episode, discussing the latest NFL headlines and providing their insights.
Key Topics Discussed
- Aaron Rodgers' Potential Return
- Debate on whether Aaron Rodgers will return to the Steelers and the implications of this decision.
- Key Point: Aging quarterbacks can still perform, emphasizing the need for strong quarterbacking in the NFL.
- George Pickens and the Smear Campaign
- Discussion on reports of George Pickens being fined multiple times and implications of a potential smear campaign by the Cowboys.
- Key Point: The hosts express skepticism about the timing and motivations behind the fines being disclosed.
- Jalen Hurts: The Most Hated Player in the NFL
- Analysis of why Jalen Hurts received a “hate score” and the factors contributing to this perception.
- Key Point: Hurts' winning record contrasts the aesthetics of his play style, sparking mixed feelings among fans.
- NFL Report Cards Controversy
- Discussion on the NFL's recent decision to halt the public release of player report cards.
- Key Point: The hosts critique the inconsistency of grading systems and the implications for player feedback.
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Detailed Discussions
Aaron Rodgers
- Timestamp: 0:00
- Discussion Points:
- Potential for Rodgers to remain a viable QB option despite his age.
- Comparisons with other aging QBs in the league and the necessity of competent quarterbacking for team success.
George Pickens
- Timestamp: 17:54
- Discussion Points:
- The peculiar timing of fines levied on Pickens raises questions about motives.
- Emphasis on the idea that a player's on-field performance should define their value.
Jalen Hurts
- Timestamp: 29:52
- Discussion Points:
- The hosts dissect the reasons behind Hurts being labeled as the most hated player, attributing it largely to his winning record and contrasting play style.
- Critique of societal expectations regarding quarterback performance and personal engagement with fans.
NFL Report Cards
- Timestamp: 49:20
- Discussion Points:
- The NFLPA's grievance against the NFL regarding report cards indicates a lack of transparency and accountability.
- The hosts highlight the inconsistency between player evaluations and how they are treated by the league.
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Key Takeaways
- Quarterback Age and Performance: Age does not solely determine a quarterback's effectiveness; teams must prioritize finding a competent leader.
- Perception of Players: Players like Jalen Hurts face scrutiny based on aesthetic preferences in performance, highlighting the subjective nature of sports fandom.
- Transparency in Player Evaluations: The halt of public player report cards signals a broader issue of transparency and accountability within the league.
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Conclusion This episode of Nightcap features in-depth analysis and spirited debates on vital NFL topics, showcasing the hosts' expertise and unique perspectives on the sport's current landscape. The discussions serve to illuminate the complexities of player dynamics, organizational decisions, and fan perceptions in the NFL.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAaron Rodgers' Future: What's Next?
2:24 to 4:27
Discussion on Aaron Rodgers' potential return and the quarterback situation in the NFL.
“said he would welcome his former quarterback back in the foals after the pair won a Super Bowl with the Packers.”
The Importance of Quarterbacks in the NFL
4:27 to 6:40
Exploration of how key quarterbacks impact team success and the current landscape.
“Unless you have one, you don't have a chance, even if he's 42 years old.”
Impatience with Young Quarterbacks
6:40 to 9:00
Examination of the challenges young quarterbacks face in the NFL today.
“be honest I don't but Ocho is the same thing.”
Super Bowl Windows and Team Strategies
9:00 to 11:10
Analyzing which teams have the best chance for Super Bowl success next season.
“Okay, Drake Mace, they go get a Booty was already there, but they go get a Stephon Diggs.”
Addressing Team Weaknesses
11:10 to 14:01
Discussion on the weaknesses of various NFL teams and their offseason strategies.
“The thing is that when you get, I mean, I take my hat off to these older guys because I know as I got older, I just got tired of hearing the same verbiage, the same, and I can just imagine what it is for a quarterback.”
Defensive Needs for the Ravens
14:01 to 14:56
Discussion on the Ravens' defensive requirements and potential improvements.
“There's so many, so many different variables and measures you can take to improve in that area.”
Coaching Changes and Team Evolution
14:56 to 16:39
Exploration of the impact of coaching changes on team performance and dynamics.
“He was so displeased with that, he fired the head coach.”
Quarterback Stability in NFL Teams
16:39 to 17:15
Analysis of NFL teams with quarterback stability and its importance.
“to compete once again and be at the top of the AFC along with my team.”
Decision-Making for the Seahawks
17:15 to 18:24
Discussions on the critical decisions the Seahawks must make regarding player contracts.
“The Bears, quarterback, number one overall draft pick.”
Cowboys' Fines and Smear Campaign against Pickens
22:24 to 23:26
Discussion about fines imposed on George Pickens and implications for his career.
“The Cowboys reportedly fined George Pickens multiple times this season per Todd Archer.”
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Media Narratives and Player Reputation
23:26 to 25:06
Exploration of how media narratives can affect player reputations in the NFL.
“And watch what happens on the open market.”
Franchise Loyalty and Player Relations
25:06 to 27:50
Analysis of player-franchise relations and the importance of loyalty.
“why didn't nobody else come out of the East?”
George Pickens' Value and Team Dynamics
28:00 to 29:20
Exploration of George Pickens' performance and contract implications amidst team challenges.
“But you lived there for the first three years.”
Trust Issues in Player Management
29:20 to 30:44
Discussion on the trust between players and the organization regarding player reputation.
“Again, I don't think he can diminish his value anywhere else, especially if he's able to get onto that market.”
Jerry Jones and Player Relations
30:44 to 32:00
Analysis of Jerry Jones' attitude towards players and the importance of performance.
“So Jerry ain't going to hold that against you if you go out there and ball.”
Winning Cures All: A Football Philosophy
32:00 to 33:10
Discussion on how winning and productivity influence player treatment in the NFL.
“Could have easily been first-team All-Pro.”
Player Mentality and Public Perception
33:10 to 35:08
Examination of Jalen Hurts' public image and the reasons behind his hate score.
“To be involved and be around winning mentality or that winning physicality, when Michael says it, I listen.”
The Complexity of Winning and Personality
36:28 to 42:00
Discussion on how player personalities affect public perception and team dynamics.
“Pro drivers live for race day, but for small business owners, every day is race day.”
Team Dynamics and Personal Relationships
42:00 to 43:20
Exploration of team relationships and the role of personal connections in achieving goals.
“Shady did say people in the locker room don't like Jalen Hurts.”
The Importance of Teambuilding Activities
43:20 to 44:40
Discussing the significance of bonding experiences among teammates for cohesion.
“Sometimes, Ocho, when you head of a company, you got to take them out to dinner.”
Winning Attitude and Team Expectations
44:40 to 46:30
Insights into the mindset required for success and the expectations of teammates.
“All I know is I ordered it and didn't eat none of it.”
Personal Accountability in Team Sports
46:30 to 47:55
The importance of leaving personal issues at home to focus on team goals.
“I didn't want to see you bull-jiving around because, you know, that could cost us a game.”
Dinner and Disagreements: Food Preferences
47:55 to 51:00
Lighthearted discussion about dining experiences and preferences among teammates.
“Man, y 'all, Steph, y 'all full of Jordan.”
Most Hated and Loved Players in NFL
51:00 to 55:20
Analyzing opinions on the most hated and loved players in the NFL and the reasons behind them.
“If ask, can just text that to me so I can really chime in on this.”
NFL Report Cards Controversy
55:20 to 56:48
Discussion around the NFL's decision to stop public release of report cards due to grievances.
“He goes to goddamn Indianapolis and changes the trajectory of that franchise until he got hurt.”
Player Perspectives on Facilities
56:48 to 59:18
Discover players' views on facility upgrades and the challenges they face with NFL owners regarding amenities.
“Moving forward, the report cards as we know them have been stopped.”
Comparisons of NFL Facilities
59:18 to 1:02:40
Explore comparisons of NFL facilities through players' experiences and how they have evolved over time.
“The objective is that I keep costs down while increasing revenue.”
Telehealth and Weight Loss Solutions
1:02:40 to 1:06:36
Understand the innovative telehealth solutions for weight loss and how they can support individuals.
“That's why when I show up, I show up right.”
Transcript
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2:23Jeremy Fowler, first-year coach Mike McCarthy, said he would welcome his former quarterback back in the foals after the pair won a Super Bowl with the Packers. There is a waiting game, however, that could stretch for several months. Similar to last offseason, Rodgers is not rushing his decision, and Fowler reports there is no timeline on Rodgers' decision. Both sides are open to a potential return. Aaron Rodgers tend to take as much time on such matters, so I don't expect this swift resolution, but head coach Mike McCarthy likes Rogers, of course, from his time in green Bay. He's a bridge option for them.
2:59They've looked at hard at quarterbacks in the 2026 draft. So they certainly could draft one. Oh, Joe. What's going on? What's really going on? Well, you know, God damn well, he's coming back on, you know, damn well, he's coming back because there is no answer at the position. Even if not the same, Oh, anything, not the same Aaron Rogers. No McCarthy is familiar with him. They played, I mean, he had him at Green Bay. What answer do you have at that position to say, you know, we can move on for Aaron Rodgers and he doesn't have to come back? I mean, will you rely on a 42, what, 43-year-old quarterback?
3:32I think you'd be 42. You don't have it. Yeah, you don't have a choice. You don't have a choice. Just to even compete in this NFL, obviously we've seen it all season. You need a quarterback. And sometimes age really doesn't matter depending on who it is. Matt Stafford at 37. Then you have Drake May. How the hell do the goddamn Patriots go from 4-13 to 14-3 the following year? It's because of the quarterback play. Obviously, coaching play is a goddamn factor, but you still need a quarterback. I mean, it just is what it is. Sam Darnold, look what he did in Minnesota. He goes to goddamn Seattle. Obviously, there's some other pieces that matter, obviously, organizationally.
4:12They won a Super Bowl. Who gives the Steelers their best chance to compete? I'm not saying win, but just compete. It would be 42, 43-0 Aaron Rodgers. And it's just the way the NFL is. It's just the way it's built. It's the way it's structured. You need a quarterback. Unless you have one, you don't have a chance, even if he's 42 years old. And that's what they say. They're looking for a bridge. They could certainly go draft one in 2026. I don't know. It would strike me as odd to go in the free agent market and get a quarterback when you have Aaron Rodgers. the potential of Aaron Rodgers. Because the guy that comes in free agency, he's looking to start.
4:50He ain't looking to be no bridge. He ain't looking to have, okay, Aaron Rodgers going to start this year and then we'll put you in next year. That's not why a guy comes in free agency to your building. He's coming to be a start. He's coming with the intention, excuse me, the intention, not attention, the intentions of starting. Yes. So they're probably going to have to go into the market. They're going to probably have to go into the draft and draft the quarterback because I don't see a scenario where you go get one in free agency and ask him to sit for a year. I don't think he'll be comfortable.
5:23Me personally, I don't think he'll be comfortable with that. Yeah, and the funny thing about it, too, the way they treat young quarterbacks right now, too, we've heard Tom Brady talk about it. We heard some other players that play quarterback talk about how they're so much impatient and they're not allowing quarterbacks to develop. They're not allowing quarterbacks to develop. There's so much pressure on them. They're going to bad teams, and owners are impatient when they don't have instant success. And that is unfortunate. And I think they're going to continue to have those problems, especially if Aaron Rodgers doesn't come back.
5:53It's going to put them right back in quarterback purgatory. Well, what happens is that you have Jaden Daniels and his first year he goes to the NFC Championship Games. You have Drake May in his second year get all the way to the Super Bowl. You see Bo Nix in his second year have his team in the AFC Championship Game. You see Caleb Williams has his team. So they just – people automatically assume, well, if he did it, why can't I got to do it? but you know that's how people think Ocho yeah but also look at the quarterbacks you named Jaden Daniels ain't no slouch he's good he was able to do it in college Caleb Williams wasn't no slouch he's really good he was able to do it in college so if you look at the quarterback coming out this year in the draft I mean do you see one in the draft this year or one in collegiate football that comes in and changes the direction of your organization I mean let's be honest I don't but Ocho is the same thing.
6:44People see your success and ask, why can't I have that level of success? Because they don't see what you're doing behind the scenes. So you don't know what type of program, what type of organization, and what type of stability that they provided for him. Oh, you're looking at it from the outside, so you're on the outside looking in like, damn, it looked like fun in there. But you don't know what it did to have that kind of fun. But all I see is a first-year and second-year quarterbacks getting to the Super Bowl, getting to AFC championship game, NFC championship game, getting to the division around the playoffs but you want me to sit here and say, okay, we got three years.
7:22Huh? NFL is very impatient. They're very, very impatient. You know why, Ocho? Because the salaries are getting astronomical and I've got to make a decision. See, I've got to make a decision within three years am I going to give this guy$300 million? Right. So you talk about, oh, let them develop. This is Polaroid. I'm going to shake his ass. I need this thing to develop real quick. You know, back in the day, old Joe, when you didn't have the Instacam, you had to send the thing off. You take it to the drugstore. They send it off. Well, I think it'll be back. No, no, hell no. I need this right now.
7:59Let me see. Come on. Yeah. And matter of fact, small example. Small example on organizations that have to make it happen right now. If they want instant success, you got to build around your quarterback. Tennessee. Tennessee with Cam Ward. They're going to have to continue to build and put pieces around their quarterback. Las Vegas Raiders. They got a hell of a job ahead of them, huh? Yeah. They got a hell of a job ahead of them based on the way they looked last year, knowing that they're going to draft Fernando Mendoza with the number one pick. You got to get some pieces. I agree. You got to get some.
8:30And the best way to do that is, for one, you got to let Brother Crosby go. You got to let Brother Crosby go because to be able to get what you need, not only offensively but defensively you're going to need the value that he brings in a trade. You're going to need it. Because you're fooling yourself and you think just bringing Mendoza in, all of a sudden things are going to change. That's not the way it works. But if you go look at what they had or what they put around, go look at Caleb Williams. Look at what they put around him. They got D.J. Moore. They drafted Coastal Loveland. Burton. Roman Dumze.
9:03The running back. They shored up the offensive line. Okay, Drake Mace, they go get a Booty was already there, but they go get a Stephon Diggs. Look at the running back. They had Ramondre Steeves, but they go get Henderson. You see what they did around him. And I think that's the way that you have to, that's the way, you see what they did with CJ. You get a Nico Collins, you get a running back, you get, you bring, you got to bring pieces in. Now, there's still, you know, I think the Texans are going to go back into the offensive line. I saw Tank Dale working out, and he's like, okay. He probably still has a ways to go, but they're probably going to go get another receiver.
9:47I can assure you they're going to get a running back because I don't know if Joe Mixon is going to come back, Ocho. Listening to them talk, and I could be wrong, and maybe I'm reading too much into this situation, but the way they were talking, this didn't seem good. This is not like something that, oh, we expect him to be back this year. Right, right. But like you said, you've got to put great pieces around a quarterback. Because there are very few quarterbacks that can really elevate a team in his first or second year. There have been a few. There's a handful of them, Ocho. There's a handful.
10:19A handful of them. But hold on. Even those quarterbacks that can elevate a team, still look at what they had around them. Look at what they had around them. You know, they just happened to be that good, and then you also had pieces around you. Like it takes a special quarterback to go to a very bad team and elevate everybody else. That means he has to do almost everything else right when nobody else is. Everybody's not as good to me, but I'm so good, I can make up for all our weaknesses. You know how difficult that is at that position? But even when you go back and look at it, even though Kansas City had Tyreek and they had Kelsey, they still brought in Samuel Watkins.
10:59they still brought in you see they still kept adding pieces they had McKinnon and they had we're not satisfied and it's like man we got our ass kicked against Tampa what did they do rebuild the whole offensive line got to and they're going to reshuffle it again and they're going to go out and get some players they got to get better defensively too Ocho they took a step back defensively. Yeah, they're not the same. They're not the same. But I'm not surprised. The thing is that when you get, I mean, I take my hat off to these older guys because I know as I got older, I just got tired of hearing the same verbiage, the same, and I can just imagine what it is for a quarterback.
11:47I don't want to hear it no more, man. Is there any way I could just show up on Friday, practice Friday, leave Saturday, play on Sunday? I need a scenario like that. Bucky Brooks at NFL.com ranked the biggest Super Bowl windows heading into next season. Seahawks were one. Rams were two. Patriots was three. Eagles were four. Excuse me. Broncos five. Bears six. Jags seven. Ocho, what do you agree with? What do you disagree with? Unfortunately, your Bengals were not on there. Hold on. Bring that to me one more time. Seahawks had the biggest window heading into next season. followed by the Rams, followed by the Patriots, followed by the Eagles, followed by the Broncos, followed by the Bears, followed by the Jags.
12:32Hold on, you said the biggest window. Now, the biggest window on what? What, repeating or going back? Super Bowl window heading into the next season. Oh, you know what? I like that list, and I like that list. I'm not even going to base it on the quarterbacks. I'm going to go with that list based on the defenses that they have. Based on the defenses that they have, obviously. But all of them do have quarterbacks. I mean, yeah, and that also plays a part. But because of the defenses, I think I like that list. Obviously, Josh Allen's not listed. Lamar's not listed. Obviously, my Bengals aren't listed.
13:04And what are our weaknesses? What are our weaknesses? What are the weaknesses of the Bills? The defense was. What are one of the weaknesses? They're over the cap right now. They can restructure, probably restructure Josh, restructure James Cook. Bosa only signed a one-year deal. We'll see what they do with Epinesa, Rousseau, some of those guys. We'll see what they do with that. Obviously, Lamar is the biggest question mark. Okay, what are we going to do with him? Steve Bichotte has made it abundantly clear. He would love to have him back. But if that's not the direction that Lamar wants to go in, we'll play it out and we'll go from there.
13:43So Lamar is about$70 million against the cap. They got to get better defensively too, Ocho. They got to get some receivers. Because I don't know what happened to Bateman this year. I don't. I don't, Ocho. I don't know what happened. Yeah. I mean, listen, Lamar getting his deal done this offseason. They got to get him under the cap. He can get a new deal. As far as defense, they need it bad. They need an edge rusher. They need someone. They need an impact player on the edge. I'm not sure who they can go get. There's so many, so many different variables and measures you can take to improve in that area.
14:18And everything starts on defense. they have to get that moniker that they always stood by or always talk about play like a raven they look nothing like that they look nothing like that and on the back end on the back end i'm not sure my marlon humphrey if he's coming back nate wiggins this offseason you got you got to come together you got to come together you have to be that centerpiece in that secondary along with kyle hamilton to lead to lead that goddamn secondary and they need one piece on just one on the edge i don't know who it could be you just need one they'll be very they'll be They'll be very active.
14:51Steve is not very happy with missing the playoffs. He let it be known. He was so displeased with that, he fired the head coach. So I can't give you any clear indication that Steve was upset with how this season played out. And maybe there are a lot of things. I mean, the running back situation, the team, and sometimes it's just best. Sometimes we just need to – Ocho, sometimes your voice and her voice, y 'all just tired of each other. You get with somebody else, she get with somebody else, and everybody's just so happy. Yeah. It's like that sometimes. There's nothing wrong with that. Well, what happened?
15:39We just grew apart. After 19 years, sometimes you're not. it's hard to, I mean, you have to be willing to evolve because nobody's the same. The person that you made the very first day, I don't care if you win them for a year, I don't care if you win them for 50 years. That's not the same person. A year later, 20 years later, 30 years later, 50 years later. They evolved, you evolved, and each party had to be willing to evolve with other parties. Yeah, and that's the hard part. Obviously, in a coaching standpoint, point is when you do evolve, you know, everything has to be in alignment. Most of the time, everything's not in alignment when it comes to coaches and players hear it so much.
16:22It becomes, you regurgitate the same thing over and over. They're tired of hearing the same message from the same voice. And sometimes changing the voice is different. It's different. And so, I mean, listen, even as a Bengal, I'm hoping for the Ravens to have some sort of success and be able to compete once again and be at the top of the AFC along with my team. But until they find somebody to come off that air junk or somebody to help with that D-line, they ain't doing nothing. It ain't going to happen. Like I said, I mean, you're asking your secondary to hold up for that length of time, and they're just not good enough to be able to do that.
16:57And when the guy has five, six, seven seconds, I mean, there are some, like, bro, ain't nobody going to, I mean, Revis and time together wouldn't be able to hold up when the guy's just taking six, seven seconds to throw the football. But you've got to have some pressures. But I like this. But there's no – think about it. The Rams, their quarterback, number one overall draft pick. The Bears, quarterback, number one overall draft pick. The Jags, quarterback, number one overall draft pick. Seahawks, quarterback, third pick in the draft. Patriots, quarterback, third pick in the draft. Eagles, quarterback, what, the first, second pick in the second round.
17:31The Broncos, quarterback, a top 15 pick. It's not an accident. that Bucky listed these teams and each one of these teams has stability at their most important position. Yeah. You're right. That's not an accident. Yeah. Obviously, the Seahawks, they're going to have to, you know, what do we do with Kenneth Walker? Can we do it with Spoon? If I'm them, I trade Wolin. I trade him. I'm not going to believe nothing. I'm not going to pay him Mojo I'm not I think he's a restricted free agent I trade him I got his rights I'm trading him Yeah he's going to get paid I just can't pay him You can't pay both of them You want Spoon or you want Wolin You want Spoon or you want Wolin I'm going to give you a choice You can't keep them both And they got to take care of Mr.
18:32Walker too now What you going to do with JSN seeing? Oh, he finna break the bank. I'm just asking. Hey, hold on. Him and Puka. Yes. Him and Puka. So I just need to tell me what you're going to do. And I get it.
18:53I think in order of importance for the Seahawks, probably Spoon, JSN, Walker at the low end. Yeah, I mean, oh, you know how they true. Unless you're absolutely special. Unless you're one of them special individuals. That's the way the cookie crumbles. There's always a pecking order in everything. Always a pecking order. Hold on. Hold on. Baby. Fat fact. Where Papa? Okay. Can you go up there with Papa so I can hear? I can't hear. You want to stay there? Okay. Can you turn down your can you turn down YouTube? Let me turn this down because I can can you hear her? Can you hear the YouTube? Oh you can't?
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22:33You're not going to like this, Ocho. The Cowboys reportedly fined George Pickens multiple times this season per Todd Archer. It's not necessarily the content of the report, but the timing. Ocho, are the Cowboys trying to launch a smear campaign against George Pickens to try to tank his value? I mean, no, you're not going to be able to tank his value anyway. You know, regardless of whatever fines he did have or whatever fines he received, his value is based on his production on the field. His value is based on his production on the field in between those white lines. Now, whatever sanctioning bodies find him for whatever reason, maybe being late and all that stuff, but they purposely do stuff like this on purpose.
23:14They purposely do stuff like this on purpose to kind of diminish your value. Hey, if he was late and you had to find him, you know what? Let him go. Let him go. And watch what happens on the open market. Let him go. You know, so what's the point of coming out with this now? They always do stuff like this. Always. My thing is, Ocho, why would you just not find out about it? Talk to me nice. If he did that during the season, why would we not find out about it during the season? Oh, you know why. I mean, we didn't find out one. Him and C.D. was late when they was here in Vegas. They missed the bus.
23:52We found out. But why are we finding out that he got fined multiple times? And people don't get why I'm like, people, oh, no, you supporting LeBron. You supporting LeBron. I say, no, if David Griffin felt like that, he should have said that when he was there. The reason why we're getting out of the Eastern Conference, because people, y 'all, when Ocho and I was going back and forth, a lot of you guys sided with Ocho. So, yeah, just tell the truth. I like when people tell the truth. So why didn't David Griffin say that then? That the reason why LeBron James is not as good as y 'all believe he is, the Eastern Conference is just weak.
24:27Why didn't he say that then? Don't wait until you're without a job to try to take your shots at him. That was the time for you to say that. You could have said that. Say, man, look here. I know y 'all like to think that what we're doing is unbelievable, but you got to look at the conference that we're in. It's not very good. Say it then. be that guy. If you want to be that guy, be that guy. Now, you know he wasn't going to stand on business like that. He wasn't going to stand on business and say that why he's a part of that franchise, why LeBron is there. But see, if I want to try to diminish you, what I do.
25:01So now, what LeBron has done, it's not that. Because when you look at the East, why didn't nobody else come out of the East? If it was that weak? So there, hold on. There's 30 teams. So there are 15 other teams. so why didn't nobody else from that stretch that LeBron was in the East why didn't nobody come out of there if they were better than he was just talking just to be talking just talking just to be talking that's all I just want to know I just want to know if it's not that big if it's not that big of a deal Ocho he should have been able to like you know what hey LeBron ain't that and LeBron ain't like that now but no You realize you know what it was.
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25:47The man had eight 40-point games in one playoff run alone. Eight. Average 34 points a game for the entirety of the playoffs. Don't try to demand. All I'm saying is if you want to make a point, I just believe in a situation instead of just saying, look, we had the best player on the planet, and we knew if we had guys that could make timely shots, we had a chance to be successful. There is no guarantee. Yes, sir. But when you say, oh, the conference was weak.
26:25Even if Jerry Krause thought the Eastern Conference, he wasn't going to say that about Mike. Mm-hmm. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. And hold on. I like this because this is good. You mean, wait a minute. You want me to play for a franchise? that's telling my business? Wait, hold on. I knew you were going to say that. Hold on. Hold on. This is something that happened in-house. Not only did you take the fine money from me, you know, and allowed you to take it out of my check, but now you done told the public? Yeah. You done put, you done let, you done let what I considered a family put our personal business out here on blast?
27:08And you want me to come take a home team discount? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did that. Hold on, you want to franchise tag me? Nah, nah, nah. Y 'all got me messed up, man. I'm NFL young boy. I tell you what. I tell you what. Let me go about my business. Let me go about my business. We ain't going to tell nothing else, I promise. Nah, uh-uh. We ain't going to put no more of your business out there, Ocho. Nah. That was just one time. That was a slip. Nah, ain't no slip. You let me know how. You know what? I don't want to be a part of no family where everything that go in the house, it get out the house.
27:47I can't be here. I'm good. I'm good. Y 'all trying to make me look bad? Y 'all trying to embarrass me in public? Okay, I see what it is. Were you not excited to get to work? I was excited to go to work, Ocho. It's different. It's different, though. I lived in the damn stadium. But you lived there for the first three years. You played the first two years. What about the other eight years? Hey, I would try to be the first one there so I could get to the stereo system. Bad damn that stereo system. I would get there. I wouldn't have no special teams. Hey, I remember I had Frank, my special teams coach, I had like with the hands team.
28:29We had Rich Smith. We had Frank Bush. We called him Brother Baines. I was like, man, look here. We're going to go over that edge on the field. Yeah. Mm-mm. to come and be there for five minutes and then they talk about, okay, if you're on the hands team, you can leave. We go with that on the field. Bad please. But all jokes aside, I don't like it. I don't like it. You have a 53-man roster. You have one of your better players that had somewhat of a good season who's had slip-ups in the past. He's had issues in the past, whether it be on the field or off the field. And the fact that he's on a new team, had an exceptional year, Had an exceptional year this year.
29:11Obviously, he's looking to get paid based on his production and the fact that something like this comes out purposely, on purpose to diminish his value. Again, I don't think he can diminish his value anywhere else, especially if he's able to get onto that market. I'm sure maybe if the Cowboys did what's best for them, they let him go and get some pieces and get some other things that they need because there are other questions that need answers on the defense end instead of having everything front-loaded offensively and not being able to stop anybody. That ain't going to get you nowhere. I mean, it's unfortunate.
29:49I promise you he wouldn't have any slip-ups. He had one, you know, and one is good. One is good for a player that's improving, that's working on himself. That ain't what this thing said. This thing said he had multiple. You do realize multiple is more than one. Yeah, yeah, he was just late. He was just late. You know the red light catches him time, huh? You know how them red lights is. This man here, Chad. Y 'all hear this man? Hey, you know how the red lights is, Chad. As long as the blue light don't catch you, you okay. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it. But hell, hey, if I'm David Mulagatta, I like the fact that, I like the fact, see, I can't even trust this organization to do right by my player.
30:30This is someone that you, oh, we can't even trust you. In-house? How you let this get out the house? nah man I don't want nothing to do with this man go ahead let me get my walking papers don't worry about it we good why? you know why it's not going to happen because you understand the value you understand how good he is yeah and the thing is Jerry probably gave him that money back because that's the one thing about Jerry if you play well Jerry ain't looking Jerry like he Jerry like to party in the damn self now he really got a little old now he can't party like he once could but Jerry like to have a good time his damn self.
31:08So Jerry ain't going to hold that against you if you go out there and ball. Hey, that's all he cared about. The man just said playmaker. He got a gold jacket called a playmaker. Did anybody go harder than Mike? And he my dog. Come on now. Hey, I'm picking up what you're putting down. If you're having your business on the field, all is forgiven with Jerry. Hey, hey. Listen, winning and being productive cures all. Winning and being productive. If you can't win, at least be productive. Now, both of them can't be horrible. You can't be losing and non-productive. Correct. No. Ochoa, there's another one.
31:52Production and tolerance. When production is high, so it's tolerance. Hey, you say it all the time. Hey, you saw what George Pickens did. He was second-team All-Pro. Could have easily been first-team All-Pro. So a few missed meetings. Should have been. Or being late to meetings or late to practice or late to whatever, missed the bus. Oh, man. We left a little early anyway.
32:16I'll tell you. But, Pete, get your money, man. Yeah. Don't let them people play with your money. Get your money. Raiders. Huh? I was just scheming Raiders. That's all. Oh, Joe. Hey, I can see. Go ahead. I was just saying, I can see it now. When you're landing in Vegas, huh? Hey, George, hey, Pickens, listen to me. When you're landing in Vegas, right? And as you're landing on the spear, you can see a picture of George Pickens on the spear. That's how they're going to have it when he come in, when he come in, when he signed with the Raiders. You might be right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, go ahead, go ahead.
32:56Ocho, Jared Jones became a Hall of Famer in 2017, but he says it never would have happened without the presence of one key player. Jerry said, I have a gold jacket. I wouldn't have the gold jacket had Michael Irvin not played for the Cowboys, in a matter of speaking. To be involved and be around winning mentality or that winning physicality, when Michael says it, I listen.
33:22Oh, yeah? I like Jerry giving Mike praise for him getting his gold jacket. But hell, if Mike didn't play there, he still would have got that gold jacket regardless. Jerry? Michael was the heartbeat. He was the heartbeat of that team. It's not very often that the leader of your team is a wide receiver.
33:48But Playmaker was it. He was. He was the heartbeat of that. You see him on the sideline. It's Michael that's getting in. Pause. Getting in everybody's ass. It's Mike. I mean, Troy, we're every once in a while. but normally it was Mike. Right. Do your damn job! Right. But she over here knocked out. Can you see her? Hold on. Yeah. Papa!
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37:03Jalen Hurts has been voted the most hated player in the NFL on data analysis by website Vegas Insider. Hurts got a hate score of 10, the highest in the league, and the strongest negative fan reaction. Ocho, why do you think Hurts is the most hated player across the league? I think Hurts is the most hated player across the league because he wins. He's been winning. He's been winning since Alabama. He came to Philly and he's been a winner since he's gotten there. They don't like the way he do things, but he only does what they ask of him. And the results and what they ask of him, even though it's not pretty, even though it's not aesthetically pleasing to the eye, Jalen Hurts wins all the time.
37:42Now, obviously, players, those that play the game will continue to nitpick at what he's not able to do. Obviously, last season, everything coming to a head because the things that everybody complains about. See, this is why we're not winning right now, because he can't do X, Y and Z. But still, he is the most hated to me, obviously, because I think he wins with doing the least at his current position. People are talking about. But it works for them. It has worked. And just last season, it just didn't. People are talking about, what's the context? I hate you, Ocho. What context? I don't need no damn context.
38:15You just hate me for no reason. People are talking about, what's the context? He's the most hated player. And I think a lot of it has to do with Ocho. he wins, but it's not, like you said, it's not aesthetically pleasing. He doesn't win like they want him to win or how they envision he should be winning. They look at how Amar or Josh Allen or this guy or that guy win. Well, he ain't winning like that. The objective is to win. You don't get more or less points for winning pretty. And I think that's what, you know, some people, everybody's like, everybody can't win like Peyton Manning, can't win like Tom Brady.
38:54Some people have to do it a different way. And that's okay. But, what? How is it my fault? What? It's my fault. Oh, yeah. Hold on. Let me tell you the people whose fault it is on why people hate Jalen Hurts. For one, we're going to go with Cam Newton. We're going to go with you two. Let me see who else. Did Shady say anything? I'm not sure if Shady said anything. I think Shady supports him. Yeah, Shady normally, you know, you normally rock with your squad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you heavy on him. Cam heavy on him. Cam really heavy on him, boy. People don't like the tush push. Look, the thing is, Ocho.
39:40If my quarterback squats 600 pounds, that's on you. You got to stop. I think the thing is, Ocho, his interviews, I mean, we don't get a chance to see his personality. I'm sure the guy that we see in front of the camera is not the guy that he is in the locker room. And people like to see personality. I think that's why people look. And Peyton didn't show a whole lot of personality until Peyton retired. Brady, you know, people talk about Brady's sense of humor and things like that, but he didn't really show it. He was really buttoned up. So I think we're holding Jalen Hurts, or I'm not holding it to him.
40:15He is what he is. I don't, it's not. I'm not casting me in a movie or a commercial related thing, so it really doesn't matter to me. But I think the thing is that people really do want to like, is he really this buttoned up? Is he really just this matter of fact and he's not excited like, hey, yeah, I'm happy, but it's on to the next. You're not even going to give yourself an opportunity to celebrate the Super Bowl. You're not going to give yourself an opportunity. And I think that has something to do with it. I do. Yeah, a little bit. But you got to understand, especially the quarterback position, you have to carry yourself a certain way.
40:57I think Jalen Hurst goes to the extreme with it when it comes to being buttoned up, when it comes to strictly about business. Obviously, you heard his comments after winning the Super Bowl, right back to business, right back to work. But off camera, these individuals are nothing like that. Tom Brady, nothing like that. Peyton Manning, nothing like that. until you're able to see them outside of that environment, outside of having to be the franchise quarterback and the leader of said team, you'll never know him. And that's one of the things that I actually hate that people now, obviously when I was playing, I'm like, well, damn, seeing Tom here, being on the same team with him, he's nothing like what I saw on camera.
41:34Seeing Peyton Manning at the Pro Bowl. Wait a minute. This ain't nothing like the dude I see that answers everything like a goddamn presidential candidate in front of the camera. No, I just hate that people can't be themselves. You were yourself, but you were a tight end. You put the camera in front of me, the same person you see on nightcap, the same person you saw on the field in front of the camera. We were. Man, could you imagine? My mind won't let me. Shady did say people in the locker room don't like Jalen Hurts. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're not there to be liked. I'm not part of this team for me to come here every day with you for six months out of the year for you to like me.
42:18I agree. We are supposed to have one goal in mind when we walk in this building. That's to win a championship together. And that doesn't entail me having to like you. Yeah. It doesn't. I agree. It doesn't. Liking me, as long as you respect me, we cool. We ain't got to be best boys. I'm not coming to your house. You're not coming to my house. You're coming to my house. Hey, we cool. Hey. We not hanging out together. Nope. He's married. He seems to be happy in this situation. He seems to be a loner. He seems to be about, hey, I'm here to do a job, the best job I possibly can, and I'm going home to my wife.
42:56I'm going home to my wife. That's where I am. And I don't begrudge that. I just think sometimes you do, as a teammate, have to get outside your comfort zone. because y 'all was like, hey, boy, what y 'all doing tonight? Man, we going to the move, so we going, all right, I'm going. Yeah. Man, what y 'all doing? Man, we playing, we shooting dice. How you play? We explain it to them. Okay, I'm in. Yeah. Sometimes as a quarterback, Ocho, to make, because you already put on a pedestal, whether you like it or not, whether you ask for it or not, the last thing that you want the team to think is, oh, he really thinks it's You bigger than everybody else?
43:36he think he better than us yeah sometimes you just like hey guy sometimes Ocho you throw a dinner sometimes I know he probably don't gamble or anything like that but hey I got a poppy shop machine or a shoe pool hey sometimes you just gotta let your hair down I know I shouldn't have to but it's a different environment it. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes, Ocho, when you head of a company, you got to take them out to dinner. Mm-hmm. That's just the way it works sometimes. Why are you looking at me, Ash? Yeah. And let Ash order all the boojabs that she want. Especially steak housing. Yeah, especially steak housing.
44:27Because you already know, oh, y 'all got skirt? Oh, what comes on this salad? I'm never getting skirt steak. What did you get? Filet and yum or rib eye. Well, you didn't get filet. You got a rib eye? I got filet. Oh. You normally get some bull jive, too. And the calamari. Who got the calamari? You did. I didn't eat not one piece. All I know is I ordered it and didn't eat none of it. But I did see somebody's little fingers keep with that fork, that spoon, just keep. That was me. That was you. I got the picators out of routine. No. I'm talking about the calamari that came out first.
45:08but look
45:12everybody gonna be like no joke you can't make everybody happy nor should you attempt to yeah i mean but listen some some people have energy this kind of energy where you can't help but like yes sometimes some people are infectious no matter what you know so yeah hey um if you can find, Chad, if you can find somebody that don't like me genuinely, that don't like me, I'll pay you $5 ,900. Well, damn. Well, I don't like your ass because you're going to be$5 ,900. So there you go.
45:46I think, you know, regardless of error, regardless of whether it's my error, whether it's the current error, whether it's the error before mine, everyone genuinely likes me. Now, they might not agree with the way I played or some of the answers that I did, but there's There's no way, there is no absolutely way that anybody that dislikes me, if there's anyone that dislikes me, it's something wrong with you. It got to be something wrong with you, and we need to get you help. Chad, I'm sure, Chad, you can agree. Yeah, I 1000 % agree. Yeah, you look, everybody's not going to be, you know, for whatever reason.
46:22I tried to be amenable to everybody. I tried to joke what everybody have, you know. But I took winning serious. I took practice serious. I took meeting serious. I didn't want to see you sleeping. I didn't want to see you bull-jiving around because, you know, that could cost us a game. I mean, we only had 16 of those things, and you bull-jiving around and you're not taking it serious, that probably rubbed me the wrong way, and maybe that rubbed some of my teammates the wrong way. Because obviously you see how I am now. So you could just imagine. Imagine back then. Hey, but you would have been mad at me if I was your teammate, boy.
47:01man stop bullshitting so much Ocho hey you would have been cussing me out I can see you now Ocho what you got for us today what you got for us today if you scope boy I would have had anything jumping as long as you ain't getting no pill today I'm cool with that as long as you take practice serious like we out there we trying to get better because I ain't out here for my help it's cold or it's hot or whatever it be and everybody every day even though I try to put on a brave face there are sometimes I was dealing with stuff that you just got to get through. But that was my own thing. I don't care.
47:36I don't care. You married. You got kids. I don't care about none of that. I don't care about your girlfriend. I don't care about none of that. Leave that at home. When you come here, we come in here to get better. And when you go back home, you got to be able to compartmentalize. When you take your ass back home, you have to deal with mama then. But when you're here. Yeah, separate. the two.
48:02Who? Man, y 'all, Steph, y 'all full of Jordan. I didn't have no... Jordan, did I eat the cup? Yes, you did. I picked up one piece of what? What happened to the rest of the plate? I don't know. I don't know. What y 'all went to dinner? Where y 'all went? Some steakhouse right down the street. Oh, y 'all got money I said, well damn Yeah, you were on the plane though You didn't get in until late You ordered the wagon? Nah, I didn't even I let Ash tell you What happened to my steak It was cooked It was cooked perfect But somebody ate it I had like two bites Did you forget that part? You sent it back?
48:50Somebody ate my steak Hey, you ain't sent it back Nah, I ain't sent it back I did I hate going to dinner with people I will send it back if you effing up I'm sending it back yes come on don't tell me you one of them nah man I don't like that man I feel bad from a waitress I hate them having to run back and forth there are people in the world starving still eating hell nah I don't like that If you're paying$100,$150,$200,$300 for a steak, it better be chef's kiss. It better be delicioso. Yeah. I hate, I don't mean to tell my personal business, boy. I left a chick at a restaurant one time like that, man.
49:38If you send your food back and if you don't, I hate not only when you send your food back, but when you talk to waiters any kind of way. No, I don't do that. You're right. I don't talk to them. Man, I left her there. Oh, you just going to leave? You not going to pay? I ain't paying, man. I'm good, man. I send mine back all the time because I want a dry plate because you know how they put the gravy on the juice on the plate? Oh, they got to send it back. I want a dry plate. Okay. Okay. Okay. Damn. I don't like that. No, I'm sending it back. It needs to be cooked like I ordered it. I ordered it medium.
50:11Don't bring it to me well. Whoa, whoa. Medium. You don't get it medium well? I don't get it medium. No. That's too much pink on the inside. Just right. Just the right amount of pink. She don't say it.
50:28Nah, I asked her. She's like, oh, rare. Rare? Rare. Who eat they food? Nah, come on now. Don't nobody know steak. No, she just playing. She playing. She get a medium rare. Okay, okay, okay. That's still too much for me. Sometimes you get medium plus. What did that mean? I'll tell you in a minute. Ocho, here's the list back to the NFL most hated players. Here's the full list from Vegas Insiders. Can you see it? No, I can't. If ask, can just text that to me so I can really chime in on this. I like this. I want to see who's hated. Josh Allen, he's number 17 for the most hated, but he's number one for most loved.
51:17Kenneth Gant is number two for most loved. Cam Ward, number three. Bo Nix, number four. Ty Robinson is number five. Jaden Daniels, six. Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is number five most hated, but he's the seventh most loved. Russell Wilson, number eight most loved. Justin Fields, number nine. Aaron Rodgers, number 10. Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Trevor Lawrence. I don't know who put this head on Trevor Lawrence, but this ain't Trevor Lawrence. Okay. I got the list in front of me and most hated obviously being Jaina Hurts Jake Moody how in the hell did Jake Moody who the hell voted on this don't start me to lie I can understand Luther Burden he's had some issues obviously on social media a lot of people going back and forth no disrespect but people hate Cole Strange bro I'm saying he's a tight end, right?
52:17Ain't he a tight end? From Jacksonville. He from Jacksonville or Miami? I see Miami. But he's from Jacksonville.
52:29Deshaun Watson. I mean, we're understandable. Oh, he's a guard? Tyreek Stevenson. Oh, okay. I'm trying to figure out how these offensive linemen and some of these players like, bro. You know, some of this really doesn't make sense to me. most of the time players that are hated are those that are always at the forefront are those that are very active so so this is this is confusing me we see Justin Fields on here um we can kind of understand why people hate Justin Fields obviously dread the Jets not having any success um Anthony Richardson uh the ups and downs and that he's had in his career we can get it uh Shamar Stewart uh we can see Bengals fans being upset at him I can understand why he's made this list.
53:10Aaron Rodgers, I mean, he rubs a lot of people the wrong way, obviously. Either you like him or you don't. There's really no in-between with him. Zach Wilson, who doesn't like Zach Wilson? I love Zach Wilson. Anybody that doesn't like Zach Wilson, there's something wrong with you. He don't even play. Again, exactly. Why do people not like Zach Wilson? Cooper Rush. What? I see Joe Burrow on this list. I think people don't like Joe Burrow because, I mean, I mean, for obvious reasons. I mean, Joe Burrow. He has a supermodel as a girlfriend. I mean, he looks like a damn supermodel to his damn self.
53:50And he's the quarterback of the best team with the best dual threat of why he's in the NFL. And I understand why they hate him. This is a cool list. Hold on. Why the hell is Cooper Rush on here? Tell me so we both know. why is Josh Allen all the way at 17 why is Miles Garrett on the most hated list what is there to hate unless you're a Steelers a Steelers fan and you're still holding what happened with him between him and Mason Rudolph against him that's pretty much it and Cam Ward what the hell did Cam Ward do what did Cam Ward do to be on the list of most hated look at him he's number three for most loved yeah this this this this makes absolutely no sense look at Josh Allen he's number one for most love Kenneth Grant yeah I don't know who made this hey who the hell is it that ain't Trevor Lawrence who is that with the dreads don't start they got Travis Hunter and that ain't Travis Hunter either oh it is yeah it is it is that list is weird it's kind of weird You kind of understand why some people hate certain people.
55:06Obviously, Jalen Hurts, his hate is well-renowned because people do it publicly, whether it's players, whether it's analysts, whether it's pundits, and whether it's fans. But some of the people on here, it makes no sense. No. What the hell did Josh Moody do? What did Jake Moody do? Excuse me, Jake Moody. What did Jake Moody do? I mean, Rashawn Slater got hurt. Why you hating him? The man got hurt.
55:35Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones barely even talks. I barely hear him talk. All he does is he leaves New York. He goes to goddamn Indianapolis and changes the trajectory of that franchise until he got hurt.
55:54I don't know. It's a confusing list. Jake Moody was the guy that kept missing those. He missed those kicks for the 49ers. Remember? They released him because he was kicking issue into San Francisco Bay. Okay. It's the 49er fans that hate him then, obviously. I'm assuming it's the fans that voted on this. They didn't get no team vote.
56:25That's messed up.
56:31The report cards have a long fixture of the offseason, with teams being assigned letter grades on various amenities and organization aspects each year by the Players Union. However, the league's memo released Friday. The NFL announced it won a grievance against the NFLPA regarding report cards, with an arbitrator determining that the reports violated the collective bargaining agreement. Moving forward, the report cards as we know them have been stopped. as have public release of the NFLPA's grades. NFLPA later announced in a statement that they will continue to do the report cards with the players, but they'll keep those results away from the public.
57:08J.J. Watt responded, hold on, NFL won't let actual players grade workplace they attend every single day, but they'll allow a third-party grading service to display the rankings of players on national television every Sunday night. Cam Jordan, NFL is upset teams have been graded, judged, and coerced to update the facilities, training staff, weight rooms, necessity to keep the modern athlete top tier. Alvin Kamara, Cam, I think you need to tell everybody how you really feel. Cam Jordan also said, one-third of the time I get upset at the NFL and remind myself a majority of the players accepted or didn't vote during the last CBA.
57:49after we had a resounding no vote in a preliminary polling with the NFLPA shaking my head. Ocho. Yeah, talk to me. I agree. So I don't know how much the PFF pay to be able to grade the players. That's a third party that's grading players. And some teams look at that grade and say, that's the 25th rated guard. That's the 112th rated safety. That's all fine and good. But players saying, you know what? we need our weight room upgraded the training staff is subpar and you know what the the the waiting area where the family is it's a little small and it's really not conducive right that's a problem go ahead Ocho I mean listen you're right you're right they're having a third party do it not the players do it obviously the owners don't really want that because obviously you know the players are going to always have an issue they're always going to have something to say about something in general where it doesn't see fit or conducive to them but you got to think about how the owners think.
58:50Listen, we pay you millions of dollars. We're doing as much as we can to appease you guys and give you the best amenities so you guys can compete on Sundays. But I think as players, I don't think they will ever, ever really, really be happy. So they will always find something wrong or something that can be fixed or something that can be done to improve whatever the situation may be. But owners don't want to do that. They definitely don't want to do that. No, because if I have to upgrade something, Ochoa, what would that cost? More money. The objective is that I keep costs down while increasing revenue.
59:29Ta-da. So if I have to upgrade my wait facility, if I have to hire more staff, if I have to do this waiting area, that's going to cost money. Yep. Now, if I could just keep it as is, and as the salary cap goes up, the TV revenue goes up. I get to pocket more. Ta-da! I get to pocket more. Hey, have you seen the Denver Broncos facility lately? Yep. Hey, the Bengals facility now, locker room and amenities and training room, as opposed to when I was playing, Unc them boys, it looked like goddamn Dubai. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus Christ. That is ridiculous. Hey, I ain't never seen nothing like that.
1:00:17They got red lights, sauna. Yes. What the hell is all this? They got charging ports for all your mobile devices and all that. Yes. Yes. Unbelievable. Hey, Ocho, when I was playing here for the Hawks, we practiced in the arena we played in. Boy, they got a whole big boy practice facility out there. Oh, y 'all got that thing out there by Emory facility. Big boy facility out there. It's nice. I've seen it. What? It's really, that's really, really nice. Yeah, they just spent, they just spent, ooh. They spent a lot of money, Ocho. Yeah. They spent a lot, a lot, a lot of money. I have to take you back there, Ocho.
1:00:56I'm talking about the wealthiest NFL owner. Who? Rob Walton. Oh, Mr. Walton. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, obviously. He got the money to be able to do that. Hey, Joe, you going to take me out there, Joe? Yeah. Yeah, I'll take you out there, man. Hold on. Let's see the facility. Matter of fact. They'll let me in? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, they'll let you in. Hey, who's the Hawks' best player? Right now? Yeah. Jalen Johnson. Jalen Johnson. He made the All-Star game. Yeah, hey, I'm going to be in his ear. Ocho, y 'all did get an A for locker room. A plus. Hey, that locker room is unbelievable. Oh, they really came out with these grades, Uncle Ocho?
1:01:33Oh, yeah, yeah, they do. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So who had one of the worst grades? The Cardinals, the Commanders? What they had? Browns. I'm saying, what was their grade? F-minus for locker room. Hey, the Bengals locker room, Joe? Boy, hey, all the lockers light up. They got, oh, man, it's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Hey, tell Jalen Johnson, man, I want to see him when I come to Atlanta too, Joe. What you want to see him about? Just a little one-on-one to five. Nah, you got to play me first. Joe, you can't do nothing with me, Joe. Sit down somewhere, man. You got to play me first.
1:02:09Don't worry about it, Jalen. Joe, you can't do nothing with me, Joe. I'm telling you now. I done been nice all this time. You going to wake up another animal, Joe. It's like I really do this, Joe. I know how to deal with you. I'm on that type of time, Joe. That's okay. All right. I'm telling you. You think they call you ISO, it's going to be a different story. You're going to be calling for help. Okay. Chill, Joe. Okay, March. In March. What? April. April. April. You ready to go in April, Joe? What? No hoes bars on this boy. Where? Hey, respect is earned. It ain't given. I understand that. You know what I mean?
1:02:51Yeah, I understand that. That's why when I show up, I show up right. I show up correct. Yeah. But the thing is, is that, look, and plus if you get the ownership, the Jeff's got an F for ownership. The Jeff.
1:03:09And so, but you know, everybody, I'm sure every owner, think their facility is top notch. They just do. I don't think every owner. Tell me a frog that's never praised his own pond. Right. I don't think every owner... They do. They fake that. Even though we know that's not the case. Because, Ocho, Joe, the frog on praises on palm. We got the bluest waters. We got the best fishing. We got the greenest. We got the best lilies everywhere. Bro, this clay hole you got is muddy as mud. And you ain't got no mud fish swimming in it anyway. And so, the thing is, like I said, if I can get by skimping, knowing how much the TV revenue that we're generating, knowing how much in regional revenue we're generating, we ain't sold no tickets yet, Ocho.
1:04:01Yeah. We ain't sold no parking. We ain't sold no concession. No hot dogs. Yep. Not yet. Wait. Hot dogs. And you know, Atlanta, they give you that stuff. You get stuff free, Ocho. You buy, you get like hot dogs and you get stuff and then you go get refills and food for free. Refills. Amen. Man, Unc, when last time you been to a game, a house game, honestly? Ooh. Shoot, I ain't never been to a Hulk game. Hey, Boosie really be out there cutting up. You know I used to go. Unc, Unc, Ocho, this thing be like the club, man. They done upgraded this arena. Man, y 'all got to come check it out, bro, for real.
1:04:36You heard me, Joe? What'd you say? Hey, Boosie really be out there cutting up on the court side like that? Well, Boosie be able to act in a fool. Swag, surfing, and everything. Yeah. Yeah. It's a different vibe. Everybody in every arena ain't like that. Nah. You're like, every arena ain't the Mercedes Benz on. They get drunk. Nah. Hey, Ocho. Yeah. They come dressed. They come like they going to the club, partner. You hear me? Oh, so Joe, when we go to the game, we got to be on point. Oh, man. Ocho, they don't be playing. I'm going to wear these pants because I know anybody going to have these, Joe.
1:05:10What pants?
1:05:15My cheetah pants. I sure hope you don't wear them.
1:05:20I sure hope you don't wear them no more. You don't like my pants? You done got your$45 out of them, cuz. No, they cost$25. Oh, yeah, you done got your money worth out of them. Hey, Joe, you shop on Sheen? Boy, I was just gonna say, you shop on Sheen? Sheen? Sheen. Yeah, hey, hey, hey, my girls over here, they shop on Sheen. Hey, I throw me an outfit in or two on that. Yeah, that's what he's from, too, boy. Hey, hey, Unc, I let them get a cart, you know, on sheen. Everything's so dirt cheap. So if they spend$500, boy, they got a gang of clothes. Hey, make sure y 'all put your boy a couple outfits in there for me now.
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