Best of NFL Part 2: Is Tyreek Hill WASHED UP after Dolphins release?! Jalen Hurts STUCK UP ways for being ranked MOST HATED in the NFL

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2:36The Dolphins have released Tyreek Hill today. Hill turns 32 on March 1st and was set to carry a$51.1 million cap hit in 2026, which have given him the highest cap number amongst non-quarterbacks coming into the season. The decision leaves Miami$28.2 million in dead money, but also creates almost$23 million in cap space by releasing Hill now. Ocho, which team is the best landing spot for Tyreek? The Chiefs, the Bills, or the Chargers? I think Tyreek's next move has to be his best move. Obviously, coming off an injury, going to a team where he's going to be utilized in the correct way. I think the Bills would be a nice place for him.

3:21Obviously, I mean, you have Shakur, who was somewhat in that same position and being in the slot, but Tyreek being able to play on the outside. I like the Chiefs. The Chiefs also being able to use him, you know, the correct way. And it all comes down to how healthy is he going to be when he's recovered, you know, even once he goes to rehab. Even a Tyreek Hill that's not as fast as he once was is probably still faster than everybody else. I think that's what it's going to come down to. I think the Dolphins might have moved on a little too fast. Honestly, just in my own personal opinion, they could have restructured and found a way to get that salary a little bit lower with him coming off the injury.

3:59But to let a player of his magnitude go, which is the staple of your offense, obviously having A-chan, having Waddell as well, I don't think they should have let him go. That's just my personal opinion. Obviously, being 32 and coming off injury, you know how this business works. Serious, serious injury. Injury, yes. That ain't just no ACL. he tore a lot of ligaments and he broke his tibia. Yeah, I understand. But rehab, the resources, the access to some of the methods he has to get himself back to where he once was, I think that the chances of him coming back and being the Tyreek of old is possible.

4:38Even if he's not the same Tyreek of old, it will still be better than 98 % of the receivers in the NFL if he's used correctly. Well, the writer was on the roll. I'm surprised that it moved on to offseason. After what had transpired the last game, Ocho, we talked about this. The one thing you can't do as a player, players will forgive a lot, but you can't leave them out to dry. You can't quit on them. When things are going bad, that's when your best players, that's when I need Ocho to show up and be his best. I understand, Ocho, we're not going to the playoffs. I understand, Ocho, you're not going to get your customary 90 catches, 1 ,300 yards, but don't quit on me.

5:18don't be a guy that when things are going good they go great and when they go bad they go terribly horribly wrong yes and so i thought they would move on in the off season because i knew he would never have the same trust in that locker room that he once had right go ahead ocho can i can i tell you something i can tell you why they didn't move on they didn't move on because they understood his value they understood his true value despite him giving up despite him quitting in that previous season. We can't let someone like this go. Look at the numbers he's put up. Look what he does for us offensively.

5:51He makes everyone else job around him that much easier because we have to, everyone has to focus on him in game. So it opens up everything else. So of course they were going to let him go, but now that he's injured, now that he's hurt, and it's kind of up in the air, you don't know what you're going to get once he's back healthy. You know what? Now we can let him go. But you'll never find another one. Let me ask you a question. You'll never find another player like that. Did they make the playoffs with him? They can miss the playoffs without him. I mean, we can say that about a lot of players on a lot of teams.

6:19But at$51 million, and I told you that since Ocho— Oh, no, but if you know you wouldn't get 51, you would have restructured that, though. You would have restructured that. I would have moved on, Ocho, because he's not going to be the same guy in the locker room. They're not going to believe in him. The coaching staff don't believe in him. There's a reason they didn't give him the C again. There's a reason, Ocho. You know that. that you've got to do something really, really bad, something really egregious for you to be a captain one year, him being the player that he is, and then all of a sudden he's not the captain.

6:50Because nobody's going to like, bro, how you the captain? You'll quit of all people. If I give Ocho the key, I'll get it. If damn near my leg broke, hey, man, hey, Doc, what you think? It's broke, Ocho. Can you tape it up? Can I still go? Can I run a stop? You're going to do everything you possibly can because you understand the importance of that seat. You understand the importance of that leadership and the guys look to you. Once that transpired, I said, it's never going to be the same. You know that. I know that. Everybody knows that. Now people try to make it all up. You old school. I'm telling you.

7:30Quitting is the worst thing that you can do in a team game. Because if you're by yourself, you're a golfer or a tennis player. Who cares if you quit? You withdraw, you withdraw. Oh, you got an injury and you can't continue? Okay. Who was that? Who was that? Somebody had a... Oh, Djokovic was playing somebody in the semifinals, and the guy, he was up two sets to love, and he had to withdraw because he had an injury. Okay. Injury, yeah. He couldn't continue. But as a team, and the thing was, Ocho, he was healthy. and the one of the guys and and it got out that uh uh waddle asked him hey reek you done you can't the problem is what you have if you restructure at what number because he's going to deem it dis first of all he's going to deem it disrespectful that you're cutting his pay based on what he's done so now what is the number that you and the team that's because you know the team is looking to be here.

8:34Tyreek and his representatives are looking to be here. Can we find somewhere in the middle? Yeah. I mean, obviously at some point I'm not sure when it's going to be. You're going to see Tyreek Hill post videos showing how healthy he is. You're going to see him running routes, lateral movement, being able to accelerate, being able to stop, being able to transition and do some of the things he once was able to do. I think once those videos are posted on social media, then you're going to understand And, okay, he's back. He's back. He might not be Tyreek of old, but even the same Tyreek of old, even if he loses the step, he's still faster and almost better than 98 % of those that play his exact position.

9:15A lot of people, they mistake and allow the off-field stuff to kind of camouflage what he's done on the field. Right now, if he was to try today, he's a Hall of Famer. If Tyreek Hill was to never play another down in the NFL, he is a Hall of Famer. He is a first ballot Hall of Famer. For those who don't know and probably say, oh, Joe, shut the hell up. Nah, we need to get away from that first ballot. After they put T.O. in Coach Belichick in. I understand. I understand because they allow all this stuff to overshadow what players have done on the field. Look at what he's done on the field. Look at his numbers to date.

9:47And obviously knowing Tyreek being 32 as fast as he is, he's probably not going to slow down anytime soon based on the way we've seen players come back from even gruesome injuries like this. I think he's going to be all right. But I feel he's a Hall of Famer based on what he's done thus far to date in the NFL. I think the thing is also, Ocho, I think he should take his time. I think he had this injury. I think he did it in week four. So he's about five months into his surgery. Excuse me, rehab. He should be in no rush. You said his next move should be his best move. It's got to be his best move.

10:21I agree. because the one thing, okay, he left voluntarily, Kansas City to go to Miami. Miami, he doesn't leave under the same circumstances. The last thing you want to happen, Ocho, is you go somewhere and then after a year, they move on. So now what's the thing? He ain't the same player, so you start to bounce. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah. Now they ping pong you. And that's the last thing they want because, like you said, he's coming off a gruesome injury and he's 32. Yeah. I'll tell you what. Y 'all do realize, I mean, he was running 4-3 at 31. So, yeah, I agree with you, Ocho. I don't know if we've ever seen a player this fast have this gruesome of an injury.

11:04So we really don't know what he's going to be when he gets back because that's a lot of downforce. That's a lot of deceleration and acceleration. If he can still excel, can he still get in and out of those breaks with the quickness? Can he still put fear? Hey. Go ahead. Can he still put fear? Hold on. Go ahead. Fat Fat. Come here. All right, go ahead. No, I was just saying, I think that's the biggest thing. We've never seen a player with this kind of speed to have this kind of gruesome injury because the acceleration and the deceleration. Because you may, hey, the faster you go, because normally guys that run really fast, hey, they have to throw that brake on there.

11:47To get it out of the brake. That's not what Tyreek does. He can accelerate and decelerate in the same. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see. But I would take my time. I'm in no rush. I'm Tyreek. My resume speaks for itself. Yes. And they're going to ask him. You know they're going to bring him in. They're going to ask him what happened in that situation. They always do. They always do. I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so. So understanding, knowing what he can do. It's about moving forward. I don't see them rehashing the past because the past is not going to help what you're trying to do and what he can do in helping a team right now in trying to reach their end goal, especially the Kansas City Chiefs.

12:32Based on, yes, based on, huh? Based on, you know, them missing the playoff last year and having struggles at that position, I think they'll be happy to bring him back, especially with Eric Biennemi knowing how to use him the right way. Let me ask you a question. And y 'all can chime in. in a regular job, if you get fired of your regular job and you go to a new job, they ask you what happened in the old job, Ocho?

12:57You know what? I like it, but it's a different environment with different leaders where he doesn't have to be that main one. You got Mahomes, you got some of those other fellas over there. When you got the coach Belichick, what did coach Belichick ask you? Oh, he didn't ask me nothing. I know what he did say when I first met him. Welcome to New England You know you're going to have to change who you are to be here But you don't think If he goes to a new team They're not going to ask him anything about what transpired He's already been there He's already been there He's been where? In Kansas City before I get Kansas City Kansas City saw some of the red flags If he goes somewhere else beyond that But what if he doesn't go to Kansas City?

13:41What if he goes to Buffalo? What if he goes to the Charger? I'm not saying go into a familiar situation. They knew, they took Tyreek knowing what had transpired beforehand. So they have an understanding of who Tyreek is. But San Diego, excuse me, San Diego, LA, the Chargers don't. Buffalo does not. Maybe any other teams does not. So I need to get a sense. I need to get a feel to make sure this situation doesn't arise again. Go ahead, Ocho. Right. Yeah. I don't think we have any issues. Obviously, the off-field stuff, it overshadows what he's done on the field. No, that was on the field. That wasn't off the field.

14:25Look, we understand his wife and the divorce and the kids. I don't care nothing about. Hopefully, the allegations about DV isn't true. I hope the kids, the kids, hey, that happened. I don't care if he got a baby, one baby mama, two baby mama. They ain't got nothing to do. I don't care about that. But what we're, I'm only talking about what transpired the last game of the regular season when he was fully healthy. That's it. And I'm not, Chad, and I don't want you to, oh, no, I'm not trying to minimize it. I'm just saying we're talking about because all that, and they might even ask him about that.

15:07Yeah. But I'm talking about on the field play. That's what Ocho and I are discussing. Yes, DV is bad. And so I'm not trying to – because y 'all know you're going to try to parse words and clip it and say, oh, doesn't care. I do care. But I'm not asking him about that because I can read and I'm going to ask him. Who knows? Maybe they call. Maybe they call her. I don't know. Maybe they get the police report and deduce what they can from that. All I'm saying is what transpired the last game of the regular season a year and a half ago. That's what's going to be the major concern for teams, all the teams, maybe not Kansas City, because they know who Rick is.

15:46Andy's very familiar with him. Brett Beach is familiar with him. Obviously, EB is familiar with him. Kelsey, Mahomes, everybody. I saw Chris Jones, Cheetah, had the clock. Yes. But I'm just saying, I think in a situation like that, Ocho, you get asked those questions. Because it would be, you know, a great person to be had on tonight would be asked T.O. Because T.O. went from San Fran. He went to Philly, from Philly to Dallas, Dallas to – so did they ask you anything about what transpired at the previous stops? Right. I mean, you know, it's possible. It's possible they can. I'm sure it would be an easy question that he won't have a problem answering.

16:32obviously being a player you know how you can get frustrated but there's certain things you really can do especially wearing that seal on your chest and it got to him in the moment he was upset I'm not sure what was going on I can't remember that previous game or who they were playing but he was frustrated especially offensively because he wasn't being used the way he felt he should well I think the thing is Ocho it's the first time and maybe since his rookie year that he didn't get a thousand yards you know you as a wide receiver you measure your success by a thousand yards. Let me get that thousand and then I'll deal with it.

17:08Hey, I might only have 50 catches, but if I got 50 catches for a thousand yards, that's 20 yards. I'm good. I'm Gucci. Yeah, I'm good. Yes. And so I think that might have played a part in it. And when you're at that level, you see all these young guys, you see what Chase doing. You see what Jetta's doing. You see what Puka's doing. You see, Ocho, as we start to get older, we see those young dogs coming. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Damn, man. Pretty soon I'm going to have to get my ass on the damn porch. I can't even run with him no more. Yeah. Yeah. We had an old dog when I was growing up, Ocho. Hey, old Joe Boy.

17:44That was his name, Joe Boy. Joe Boy got old. The other dog be running in the yard. He just bark at him. Basically said, I remember I used to be able to do that, but I got to stay up here now. He can't move. Yeah, he can't move no more. He can get off the porch to go out there and do his business, but that's it. He ain't running with nothing. and he definitely ain't going hunting with those other dogs. But I wish Tyreek the best. I thought for what he's been able to do on the field, the way he turned himself from a gadget guy, a guy's getting some shovel passes, some jet sweeps, flea flickers here and there, a return specialist, and to turn himself into a preeminent receiver, that's dedication, that's hard work.

18:24We all have our balls. We've all made mistakes. but in this situation I commend him on what he's been able to overcome to turn himself into the receiver that he became and so I wish him the best nothing but going forward but I agree with you 1000 % take your time you should be in no rush if this thing doesn't happen I mean it don't have to happen the first week of you know the signing period the second week of March Ocho I ain't got to get one of the team I ain't going to be able to do anything anyway but the one thing about it I think it's going to happen before that. When the time comes, I think teams, especially that need a receiver of his caliber, again, even coming off injury, understanding the value that he can bring once he is healthy, a lot of teams can use that asset.

19:13A lot of teams. And just not to go off topic, I love talking about Tyreek. Speaking of receivers that need to be utilized in the right way, that is another Matthew Golden. Yeah. Matthew Golden had that same type of I don't understand what they're doing over there in Green Bay but I just felt like throwing it out there they need to utilize him the right way too because they're using him as if he's just a gadget player and he can do somewhat of the same thing Tyreek can he just hadn't figured it out yet if that makes sense plus I think the thing that players get caught up in is that teams do not get caught up in this hold on we're about to invest 15-20 million dollars I mean, maybe with incentive they can get to that number.

19:57You have to set aside what a guy once was and actually pay him and value him on what you believe he'll be. We get caught up sometimes in that, Ocho. We get caught up, oh, I remember, I remember, I remember, and we pay for what he was as opposed to what he is. What he is. Everything, some things do increase in value. some things they lose value hey i just saw it when people turn to health care for weight loss they're looking for real support that's why more people are choosing orderlymeds.com orderlymeds connects you with real doctors and access to proven glp1 medications like semaglutide and terzepatide no guessing just a more supportive experience and all shipped directly to your door in discreet packaging do your research ask questions then visit orderlymeds.com slash Podcast for an exclusive offer.

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22:20Sign up for free at Lenovo.com slash pro. Lenovo, Lenovo. Enzo Ferrari, I think it was on Mecham, that went for$16 million. Yeah. Enzo? It was yellow. I think it was one of one. Yeah. But they're skyrocketing. They're skyrocketing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I think for me, that's what teams are going to look at. I think they'll give him decent money, Ocho, but I think a lot of it's going to be incentives. Yeah. And knowing him, I think he's a player that will be able to hit those incentives, especially if he comes back anywhere near like what he once was. Miami traded a first-round pick, a second-round pick, two fourth-round picks, and a sixth-round pick to acquire Cheetah.

23:13in 2022 despite tyreek having two productive seasons in miami in hindsight what do you think ocho you like this trade yeah i like it from a monetary standpoint that's it i mean yeah but it's uh you you would never be able to get that anywhere else huh no you would never get that be able to get that anywhere else this is one of the best receivers not just of this generation he's still one of the best receivers of Of all time. Of all time. I think people need to understand the run that Tyreek was on before his injury. This ain't just no anybody. So, I mean, it was worth it. And they got what they wanted.

23:55Obviously, the end goal is always to win a championship. But there are so many other holes that need to be filling before we can even think about talking about a championship down here in Miami any damn way. So now, I don't know it's going to be hard. because just saying now, Ocho, he has two more Super Bowls with another Super Bowl appearance. Now, maybe he doesn't have 1799 and 1700. Maybe he's around 13, but he has three 1300-yard seasons. Now, Ocho, we're looking like, hold on. Man, Tyreek got like 12 ,000 yards and another bloop, bloop, another two Super Bowl rings. Hey, I don't know. Hey, I don't know, Ocho.

24:37You might be right. Even though we have some issues that, and don't let anybody fool you. They say they're not supposed to look at off-field issues. It all depends on who it is. Yeah, yeah. You know, they move the goalposts for who they want to. You know that. Absolutely. You understand that. And it's unfortunate that they've been given that kind of power to be able to control the narratives and be able to finish your story in their own right. they just have too much power to me and I don't like politics if I wanted to play politics I would have been a politician and everything becomes political and not what you've done on the field which is why it just it is what it is you'd be a great politician just lie just tell people just tell your constituents what they want to hear they'll vote you in and then they get comfortable that's why these people 80 plus years old that's been in office for 40 years yeah but you know that's crazy look they say lady justice because lady justice supposedly have a scale so justice is supposed to be balanced and it's supposed to be blindfolded but every once in a while she be peeking oh I see you yeah oh yeah all the time hey all the time and depending on it when it comes to that too now certain people play by different rules absolutely certain people play by different rules and we can see that's going on right now that's not the kind of talk show that we do have.

26:04But as you can see, there's a huge story going on and there are certain people that play in a whole different ballgame and run their own system where the rules don't apply to them. Ocho, here's the list. Back to the NFL most hated players. Here's the full list from Vegas Insiders. Can you see it? No, I can't. If ask, just text that to me so I can really chime in on this. I like this. I want to see who's hated. Josh Allen, he number 17 for the most hated, but he's number one for most loved. Kenneth Gantt is number two for most loved. Cam Ward, number three. Bo Nix, number four. Ty Robinson is number five.

26:47Jaden Daniels, six. Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is number five most hated, but he's the seventh most loved. Russell Wilson, number eight most loved. Justin Field, number nine. Aaron Rodgers, number 10. Sam Darnley, Baker Mayfield. Trevor Lawrence. I don't know who put this head on Trevor Lawrence, but this ain't Trevor Lawrence. Okay, I got the list in front of me. And most hated obviously being Jayla Hurts. Jake Moody. How in the hell did Jake Moody, how is he the most, who the hell voted on this? Don't start me the line. I mean, listen, I can understand Luther Burden. Luther Burden has had some issues, some issues obviously on social media.