In short
Best of NFL Preseason Week 1 Part 1 discussion focused on Cleveland Browns QB competition and “QB drama,” especially Shadour Sanders’ preseason debut, plus quick takes on the New Orleans Saints’ QB situation (Spencer Rattler vs Tyler Shuck) and a “dark horse” Panthers note.
Guests/backgrounds
Hosts are “Ocho” and “Dan” (sports commentators). They reference NFL experience (Dan says he played at a high level; Ocho also played). They also cite “Jordan Schultz” (AFC North executive text) and “Browns Athletic Insider” reporting.
Key claims
Sanders looked like a starting-caliber passer despite limited reps; he was calm, went through progressions, and handled pressure in the pocket. The hosts argue Browns should give him more quality reps with the ones/twos, not just threes/fours, because his game tape already shows it. They criticize the organization’s quarterback handling and question why Dylan Gabriel is favored in camp.
Notable examples
Sanders stat line (14-23, 138 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT; 2 sacks) and specific throws (timing over the flat, touch pass on the move, lofted TD). Saints: Spencer Rattler 7/11, 53 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT but a lost fumble; Tyler Shuck 15/22, 165 yards, 1 TD, but also a pick-six. Panthers: Bryce Young and receiving core praised; Jalen Coker “went crazy.”
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAnalyzing Shadour Sanders' Performance
0:00 to 0:34
Explore the impressive debut of Shadour Sanders and the challenges he faced.
“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”
Analyzing Shadour Sanders' Performance
2:48 to 8:20
Explore the impressive debut of Shadour Sanders and the challenges he faced.
“So please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho crack.”
Expectations vs. Reality for Rookie QBs
8:20 to 14:01
Discuss the difference between expectations and actual performances of rookie quarterbacks and the implications for their careers.
“I'm going to give credit where it's due.”
Shadour Sanders' Preseason Performance
14:01 to 21:32
Analysis of Shadour Sanders and his potential as a quarterback.
“This is one of the few times, I can't think of the last time, that everyone was excited, excited about wanting to watch a Cleveland Browns game.”
The Competitive Spirit in Football
21:32 to 28:00
Discussion on the mindset and competitive nature of athletes.
“They might be faster than me, but they're not better than me.”
Football Banter and Preparation
28:00 to 28:36
The hosts humorously discuss the physicality of football and their personal experiences with game preparation.
“What the hell you thought was going to happen?”
Football Banter and Preparation
29:25 to 29:54
The hosts humorously discuss the physicality of football and their personal experiences with game preparation.
“Chris Cyborg, one of the greatest in history.”
Football Banter and Preparation
30:24 to 31:17
The hosts humorously discuss the physicality of football and their personal experiences with game preparation.
“ChatGPT can do more than answer questions.”
Quarterback Discussions: Sanders vs. Gabriel
31:22 to 38:22
A deep dive into the quarterback competition between Shadur Sanders and Dylan Gabriel for the Browns.
“NFL Insider says Shadur Sanders still stands behind Dylan Gabriel for the Browns coaches.”
Performance and Opportunities
38:22 to 42:01
The hosts discuss the importance of practice reps and opportunities for quarterbacks in the NFL.
“I'm not saying no names again this time because I don't want to get nobody in no trouble.”
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Analyzing Quarterback Performances
42:01 to 49:11
Discussion on the performance of various quarterbacks during the preseason.
“Let's see if he can replicate some of that, what he did on Friday with the ones today.”
Analyzing Quarterback Performances
49:12 to 50:06
Discussion on the performance of various quarterbacks during the preseason.
“Once it was locked in, I had to be ready to go.”
Analyzing Quarterback Performances
50:12 to 51:12
Discussion on the performance of various quarterbacks during the preseason.
“Chris Cyborg, one of the greatest in history.”
Saints Quarterback Controversy
51:13 to 52:05
Discussion on the challenges faced by the Saints quarterbacks and their performances.
“ChatGPT work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps.”
Saints Quarterback Controversy
52:09 to 56:00
Discussion on the challenges faced by the Saints quarterbacks and their performances.
“That's what y 'all got to look forward to.”
Quarterback Concerns for the Saints
56:00 to 1:06:34
The discussion covers the challenges the Saints face with their current quarterback situation and the implications for their season.
“Because that position gets coaches fired quicker than anything, get general managers terminated quicker than anything.”
Transcript
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2:36Shannon Sharpe:For tickets, visit pfl.info slash Tampa. Hello, it's your favorite sports punk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, nightcap doesn't happen without you. So please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho crack.
3:18Shannon Sharpe:Looking good out there. Shadour Sanders, keep going up, head down, and grind, and head high to the most high. Jordan Schultz, text from a high-ranking AFC North executive on the Browns rookie. Shadour Sanders, it's early, but wow. Actually shocked how good he looks. Nike football, when you get your opportunity, create the next one. Only matter of time. Yeah. Ocho. Ocho. Yeah. We could, look, we could pick two plays, Ocho. Well, damn, he missed the Sam Strong safety blitz. Well, he had a guy ride over to the flat on second and 18, and he skipped the ball to him. But you saw that over route that Brock Purdy throws so well in the San Francisco offense.
4:02Shannon Sharpe:You see him fit the ball into those small windows. Did you see him on the move, throw that touch pass? Now, the receiver made a great one-handed catch, but did you see the touch? Yes. So, take off your hand. Listen. I wanted to see what Shadou would look like in a situation that wasn't advantageous to him. He didn't get any reps, as many reps as he should to prepare himself, to be prepared for a game like this of this magnitude. Dylan Brooks hurt. Kenny Pickett hurt. Joe Flacco not playing. So the card that he was dealt to go into this game, can you be a leader of men? Can you go in? Calm. Show a presence of leadership.
4:48Run the team. Command the team. Show that regardless of who's around you, you can still conduct yourself like quarterback one. He was calm, under pressure, went through his progressions, made some great throws, had some errant throws. you know obviously that's what film is for that's what the precinct is for the fix the fix the nooks and the crannies to get him out he looked like he belonged he looked different he did andrew barry you made the right call there's a reason that you wanted him there's no reason he should have dropped as far as he did you cannot tell me as any scout of those 32 teams that didn't need a starting quarterback, but those that needed a quarterback and were in need of one, watch film on Shador Sanders and what he did at Jackson State and what he did at Colorado and said, you know what?
5:44No, that's not my guy. The quote you just read from the scout in the AFC North, if you watch film, what did you expect him to look like? He looked exactly like he looked in Colorado. He looked exactly like he looked at Jackson State. Calm under pressure. In the pocket. Going through progressions. Making the right throws. That's what
6:10Shannon Sharpe:they expected to see. What they expected to see and what some hope to see might be two entirely different things. Talk to me, Dan. Now, hope. Man, I sure hope, man. I sure hope this happens, man. versus expect to see what I wanted to see. I wanted to see exactly what you wanted to see. I wanted to see, could he play with poise? Could he throw the ball with conviction? Could he be decisive? Could he go through his progressions? The pocket collapses. Could he take off? He showed me some of everything. The over route, threw it on timing. Guy in his face, let him boom, dropped it right in the bucket.
6:53Shannon Sharpe:He fit those balls, hey, pressure in his face, the second touchdown pressure in his face the first touchdown the corner slumps off the flat the safety is hugging him he fits it in yeah gets it in boom on the move the touch pass over the top as i mentioned at the top the receiver did make a great play but shador had a nice loft that's not an easy throw to make he was impressive tonight very um and a lot of people they were in the chat last night let's see what shador does let's see what shador does well hold on you know what they going to say now oh it's the preseason oh he's not playing against their starters oh he's playing against the hell he didn't have the starters either well hello talk to me jerry judy i didn't see in joku i didn't see the starting offensive line no said the tillman so this is what i have to say to those who are going to have another excuse they're going to move the goalpost right they're going to move the goalpost and say well he wasn't going against the panther starters well obviously if he's not going against the panther starters or if he doesn't have his starters as well and what he has at his disposal and look that good with the twos and threes and maybe the fours that are trying to make the team what do you think gonna happen when he has the main characters in there around him right that makes your job a little bit easier that a little bit better at their position than those that he's playing with tonight what you think gonna happen well they can try to move the goal post but i ain't trying to kick a field goal or pat so i'm gonna score anyway and Shadour Sanders scored tonight.
8:21Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to give credit where it's due. 14 to 23, 138 yards, two touchdowns, no interception. He got two sacks. Like I said, we can nitpick a couple of things. Yeah, it's the Sam Strong Safety blitz. Problem like, you know what? But it looked like he was telling the guy, bro, I need you to hook up on that. You're probably not going to be able to outrun the safety. Lamar Jackson, hold on to the ball a little longer because he could outrun the safety. Josh Allen, same thing. That's not Shadour. Shadour is not a mobile quarterback. Right. He's going to do all most the majority of his damage is going to be in the pocket.
8:52Shannon Sharpe:Right. I'm not saying he's Tom Brady, but he has the athleticism. That's not what he's known for. Go ahead. This is the thing. When he lacks in athleticism and inability to get out the pocket, he has he has great pocket presence. Being able to move and being able to not telegraph and understand when that clock is ticking and when it's time to get up out of there. he can move extremely well within the pocket without having to take sacks what about the third down the third down when he scrambled the D-line ran a stunt he was able to get outside of it you know what I like the most he saw the stunt and took off immediately yes that's what I like Ocho that's what I like I don't know who's supposed to go first I don't know who's supposed to E or who's supposed to T and I don't know who's supposed to T and who's going to eat.
9:46Shannon Sharpe:But I tell you what, I'm gone. I'm gone, yeah. Yeah. I tell you what, y 'all figure it out in film study tomorrow. But in the meantime, I'm about to pick up this first down.
10:00Shannon Sharpe:He's played himself. He might have started after four, but after this performance, he can't be number four. Because here's the fact. Ocho. How? It's impossible. Mike Chowhead told us something very, very interesting. He says, you can lose your job because of injury. Because let me tell you what's going to happen. Yeah. If you get injured and you're out and a guy comes in and he's playing better than you before you got injured, it's his job now. Ask yourself, was Dylan Gabriel, before he got hurt, was he playing better than what you saw Shadour Sanders do tonight? Kenny Pickett, ask yourself this question.
10:37Shannon Sharpe:Was he playing better than what Shadour was, than what Shadour played tonight? Yeah. So if you're going to honestly answer those questions, okay. Right. And the thing about it, what people need to understand, for those that are in the chat, it's one thing to have joint practices. It's one thing to practice against yourself and look good against your players. Yes. Everything is scripted, Uncle. Everything is scripted, even defensively, in those joint practices at times because there are certain things they want to work on defensively, and there are certain things that you want to work on offensively.
11:09When you get into the game, nothing, nothing is shared from team to team. No. So it's a green light and everything going as if it's a real game. You're working your scheme, your game plan, and all you have to do is execute it. In its simplest form, as simple as preseason games are from an offensive perspective in the way the players are called. And he did that tonight to a hell of a job. One hell of a job tonight. And this is just something to continue to build off of. Clean up. There were some mistakes, obviously. There are going to always be mistakes and things you can get better at. And you continue to see different looks.
11:49You're not going to get many looks. Obviously, it's the preseason. Everything you see defensively will be very vanilla, you know, cover tool. Sometimes you might throw in, you know, man.
11:58Shannon Sharpe:Don't count the plays, Ocho. Make the plays count. Yeah. Oh, and listen, he made him count tonight, Ocho. That's what you have to do when you're a low-round draft pick, Ocho. Me being a center, no bark. being a low-round draft pick, Ocho, you're not going to get the plays that a high-round draft pick is going to get. So don't go out there thinking that. But when it's your time, shine. Yes. You got to. When it's your time, shine. And that, hey, when you say I don't count time, I make time count. Well, I didn't count plays. As my brother used to say, hey, I know you didn't get that many refs. Keep your head up.
12:32Shannon Sharpe:Because one day John Elway going to call for you. He going to look for you. You need to make sure you're ready. You need to make sure you're where you're supposed to be. Right. Shador didn't get a whole lot of reps. But when opportunity presents itself, that's what luck is. It's when preparation meets opportunity. Amundsen said some call it luck. I'm glad you just said what you just said. You just said Shador didn't get as many reps as he should have in practice. But he got into a game, and what did he do, huh? Right. But the reps that he did get in practice, he made those count. because a lot of times I've seen it.
13:08Shannon Sharpe:I don't know if you've seen it, Ocho. I've seen guys, man, I ain't getting no burn, man. I can't. Right. And then when you get out there, you effing up. You're fucking up. Yep. My bad. Shador says, hey, these one or two reps I might get with the threes and fours. Right. I got to make these counts. These got to be my, this has got to be my best work of the day. Yeah. Because you know why, Ocho? It might be my only work of the day. Yeah. So if it's my only, it's got to be my best because this is the only time they're going to see me on tape. They see me standing behind. And, you know, hey, I'm being part of a good throw, a good catch, good run, good job offensive line, good play call coach.
13:45Shannon Sharpe:But at the end of the day, I need to get an opportunity to show you what I can do. And when the opportunity presents itself, that's what luck is, preparation meeting opportunity. Amundsen said some call it luck. Hey, listen, I'm happy for Young Bull. I'm happy for Young Bull. This is one of the few times, I can't think of the last time, that everyone was excited, excited about wanting to watch a Cleveland Browns game. Did you see all them people in the stands with the 12 and with the signs? Did you see all that old joke? A Cleveland Browns game. On the road. Cleveland don't travel like that, trust me.
14:21Shannon Sharpe:I was in the same division with them Jokers. And guess what? We used to play them. Same. Same. They didn't travel like that. Yeah. And they ain't got no reason to travel because they've been bad a long time. Yeah. So listen, tonight we saw a very small sample size. We saw a very small sample size of what Shadour Sanders can look like. The fact that he played with the twos, with threes, maybe against twos and threes. Yeah, for sure. I say this to say that. What happens when he's with the ones having to run that same offense? Right. And guess what? And you go and you game plan. I'm just calling plays arbitrarily, Ocho.
15:00Shannon Sharpe:That's it. That's all I do tonight. I'm not game planning. I'm not game planning because we normally game plan game three. We go back and now the coaches go back and they look at what they did last season and we script a game plan that's going to be what we think we're going to see on first down, second down, third down, third and short, third and long, down and distance, area of the field, first and goal, second and goal, third and goal. Now we're calling plays not just to arbitrarily call plays. We're calling plays with a purpose, for a purpose. and eventually they're going to get to that. But I was impressed.
15:35Shannon Sharpe:Look, I understand it's the preseason, but for someone that didn't get as many reps, made the reps that he did get, he made them count in practice, and when he got his opportunity, when the opportunity presented itself, he took full advantage. Tom Brady, the opportunity presented itself. Which is, hey, when the rubber meet the what? When the rubber meet the road, man. and so uh should door he should he should be proud of himself yes uh you know him being who he is raised how he was raised you're supposed to say reared i guess you raise livestock and animals but anyway being raised how he was raised he's not gonna be he's not gonna be he's not gonna get he's not gonna get too high ocho because guess what yeah even keel yeah you got to stay even kill.
16:25You know why? Because not only having to deal with the noise on the outside, that's one thing, but now you've got to deal with the noise on the inside, especially with the owner coming out just last week saying, that wasn't my pick. That wasn't my pick. That's not who I wanted.
16:39Shannon Sharpe:Thank you, Mr. Hazlum. How you doing, Mr. Hazlum? Make sure Andrew Barry gets all the credit. Like you said, Brother Hazlum, don't smile. Don't even say anything start with S. Don't even say shh. Don't even say shh. the adaption don't you say the nerve the gall i'm appalled well i'm a david i'm gonna say it one more time and this is for everybody in the chat if even if you don't like your door even if you don't like them how do you watch film college film on chador sanders and every other quarterback that went before him and see what all of them have done and say, you know what? No, I'm a passer for him.
17:23That's not the guy I want. Right. New Orleans Saints, Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't know what other teams that were in need of a quarterback. How do you do it? I'm just asking from a person that played the game of football and understanding I have an eye. I have an eye. I played the game for a very long time at a very high level. I'm not saying I'm a scout, but I know what it's supposed to look like in situations that are not advantageous for you. I just saw a young fella win at Jackson State, turn a Colorado program around that won one game. Regardless of what his record was in his totality, 23 and 12, whatever it may have been, I know what he can do when you got the right pieces around him.
18:09I know what he can do. he's a winner regardless of what situation you put him in and he showed it again tonight yet again tonight with his back up against the wall yeah he just has the demeanor to be a quarterback
18:24Shannon Sharpe:nothing seems to impact him he doesn't get too high he doesn't get too low he has the utmost confidence in himself and most quarter most the good ones really do no matter how bad and we've seen it no matter how bad it might be going the really good ones you know if it's late in the ball game they got a chance to beat you yeah and and and shudder is in the situation where it's like doesn't make any excuses and he always says the right thing it's not it's listen it's not as easy as you think to always say the right thing because you're dealing with the human element of it the human element of it no matter how much you have no matter how little you have no matter how good you've been, no matter how bad you've been, you're dealing with the human element of it.
19:07Shannon Sharpe:And people have emotions. People have feelings. And so sometimes when people lash out and say things like, damn, you take the amount of time. But he hears what's being written about him. Absolutely. He hears. He sees. If he doesn't, he's getting work. It's getting back to him. But I just love the way the man, he kept his head down, closed off his ears and just did what he was supposed to do he went to work yeah and that's how you that's how you have to approach it don't get mad i ain't trying to prove y 'all wrong i'm trying to prove me right and in the process of proving me right i'll prove you wrong it was it was a great job it was his first outing like i said those throws it was the it wasn't so it was it was the throws that he made ocho go back and take a look at that over ball.
20:00Shannon Sharpe:And we see Brock Purdy throw three or four throws a game to IU. He used to hit Debo on those plays. Your kid on the over. Look at how he threw that ball, the timing of it. Do you understand the anticipatory skills you have to have as a quarterback with pressure coming at you? There was one overthrow he couldn't even see. Yeah. Because on the replay, we couldn't even see him. We just saw the ball come out. So he's anticipating where the receiver was going to be. And he just made the throw and put it only where the receiver could catch it. Yep. That first touchdown. I don't think people understand.
20:36What people saw tonight, I don't think they understand how difficult the game is. I don't think they understand how difficult the game is. But he made it look like he's been doing it for a very long time. It's his first time. It's his first time in an NFL game. But he's used to it. Oh, Chad, look at his mannerisms. Look how he walk on the first down. Okay. He almost did the Y celebration. She said, you know what, I'm looking at the time, but it ain't time yet. And just everything about him and being quarterback number one, just the way he carried himself. He was ready for the moment. No matter what they did, no matter what they said, just put me in a situation.
21:16Just hand me the cards. Give me the hand. And I'm going to play it. And he did that just exactly how he should tonight. the hand he was dealt he played the hand very well and it's only going to get better from here it doesn't go backwards you don't degress I'm excited and this is coming from a Bengal fan I'm excited too I'm excited for the Browns to finally maybe
21:45Shannon Sharpe:have to answer at the quarterback position after trying 35 times over the years you know I man listen man I can go on and on about this but go ahead you got it i think the thing is the biggest thing that an athlete can have is the ability to believe that he belongs he or she belongs i was a seventh round draft pick shadul was a five there was 12 rounds when i was a seventh there were seven rounds he's a fifth yeah but there is not one point in time that i didn't feel i belonged on that field because i saw a lot of these guys at the bowl games i saw these guys that combined and i read about them yeah and i remember i remember calling my brother uh at the east west shrine grass and he do not better than me.
22:27Shannon Sharpe:They're not better than me. I don't care what they say. Yeah. I remember going to the combine. I said, man, what you think you read? I said, probably 4 '6", 4 '7". I said, but they're not better than me. They might be faster than me, but they're not better than me. I belong in the NFL. And when I went to Denver, all those guys that went before me, I'm like, ain't no what. I remember asking myself, how in the hell did you get drafted before me? Yeah. I said but don't worry about it don't worry about it I said it won't be long it won't be long it was like the cat boy the cat got his tail caught in the washing machine you know what he said Ocho he said it won't be long now he said she didn't know what he was talking about his tail wouldn't be long anymore or it won't be long for it all be over yeah man and when we put them pads on Ocho I'll never forget because you know the rookies we went to camp before the vets so we would go like a couple of days before the vet so we would already be practicing right at in denver before we headed up to greeley right i saw them they was nervous ocho like a long-tailed dog with a porch full of rocking chairs you know somebody leaning back and gonna be able to take on it up ocho you know what i'm talking about now i saw they were nervous i said oh yeah that's all i need to see just a little fear just a little fear in a man's eyes because That's my greatest ability.
23:53Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Another man's fear. Yeah. I like it. I like it. And listen, I know we've been talking about Shadour, but listen, remember what I told you about the Panthers, right? Yes. Remember what I told you about the Panthers? If there's a dark – hey, Chad, stay with me real quick. If there's a dark horse team that I believe in this year that is going to creep up and maybe make it run into the playoffs, I said it would be the Panthers. They didn't look bad. Bryce Young didn't look bad. Jalen Cobra went crazy tonight. T-Mac, the rookie from Arizona, looked good tonight. I know Xavier Lekin got thrown out, getting into a little tussle.
24:32Listen, I love the passion. It's just preseason. That's fixable. That's fixable. But again, look how the Panthers look early in the game. For those, I know everybody tuned in to watch the door, but I'm telling you right now, and I said it first, someone that's not much of a Panther fan, didn't play for the organization, they owe me nothing. I'm telling you, the dark horse team for this season, the Carolina Panthers, Bryce Young, and their receiving core. I'm telling you.
25:01Shannon Sharpe:Watch. Ocho, I ain't never been that hounded in a preseason game. No? The tussle? They were going at it. I don't really got no tussle in practice. Bro, because I'll tell you what Dan Reed's going to say, you fighting, that means we ain't working hard enough. Mike Shanahan said the same thing. We ain't working hard enough. Bro, it ain't like it is now, bro. Them two-hour, two-and-a-half-hour practice, man, please. With pads? And you had on pads and... Oh, let me take that back, Ocho. You have on... They call it... See, what they call shells with shoulder pads and shorts. It's not shells like they call it now.
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25:40Shannon Sharpe:Basically got those little fitted styrofoam stuff on. That was not shells when I guy in the 90s. Shells with shoulder pads and shorts. Shorts, yeah. And, you know, we hit back then. 9-on-7 was live. Yep. Team was a solid third up. There wasn't no touch the guy on his two-hand touch. Oh, no. You put shoulders on him. You put pads on him. You better come to balance and be ready. I remember Dennis Smith. We call him Kahuna. and Atwater. Man, they come down in that box. Boy, we had thumpers back then. Oh, yeah. Man, please. Atwater ain't played well. Atwater coming down here now. And Atwater wasn't the thumper like Dennis Smith.
26:30Shannon Sharpe:Kahuna was the thumper. Number 49? Whoa, whoa, whoa. More than Atwater? Yes, Lord. Ocho, I saw that joke. Hey, at 205, 210, I saw him sit lineman. sit lineman on their ass. They pulling. He ain't never go low. Right. He put that shoulder in their chest and sit them down. At 210? At 210. Go back. If y 'all can find it, go back and check the tape. He hit Roosevelt Potts. They both ran. Potts come through the hole. He hit him. He was out cold? Marion Butts. hey if you if you're a Charger fan you know who back then Ocho they had a big old big running back they had big Marion Butts they had Rod Bernstein they had a big they had Joe Caravello big Joe Cox I mean they are the tight ends were like 300 pounds offensive line mammoth offensive line yeah Kahuna run through him go back and look at that play it with Dennis Smith hit uh he had Marion Buss and he hit Roosevelt Potts.
27:39Yeah. And you know who else was a thumper too?
27:44Shannon Sharpe:Remember Donovan Darius? Yeah. I played against DD at Jacksonville. But that was back in the 90s. You had Chuck Cecil. You had Mark Carrier from Chicago. Yeah. Boy, back then it wasn't nothing defenseless about that. They said you got him in the shoulder pads. What the hell you thought was going to happen? You come across the middle. Oh yeah. You're going to get that work. What? You're going to get that work. Rodney Harrison Oh Rod coming with all four arms Every time Hey I say hey bro Hey Chuck Just stay on my knees I say hey gotcha But boy we definitely try to hit each other in the mouth Oh yeah Hey that's a hard playing joker When you're moving like I do trips don't always come together weeks in advance Sometimes production shoots, interviews Or something I've got to travel for On a short notice like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver and everything came together fast.
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30:25ChatGPT can do more than answer questions. It can help you get real work done. ChatGPT work is built for bigger projects with multiple steps. You bring the goal along with the information it needs, like briefs, notes, files, feedback, calendars, data sets, or project plans. Then ChatGPT can help turn all of that into something useful. An analysis, a tracker, a deck outline, a prototype, or a workflow you can keep shaping. It can also use approved apps, connected tools, files, and browser contexts to help move the work forward. And you stay in control. You give direction, review drafts, approve actions, redirect the work, and choose the final output.
31:07Shannon Sharpe:So you spend less time sorting through busy work and more time making progress on the work that matters. Put ChatGPT to work on your most ambitious ideas and projects. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting Work Mode. Available on Plus and Pro Plans. NFL Insider says Shadur Sanders still stands behind Dylan Gabriel for the Browns coaches. Gabriel is ahead of Sanders in the eye of the coaching staff, but rarely in training camp has that position matched what we've seen on the field. The quarterback situation remains the story of camp, and Shadur Sanders is settling in to lead three scoring drives in the most extended action of the summer.
31:49Shannon Sharpe:won't make the team's consistent stance that Sanders is fourth in a line any less perplexing. No reasonable person thinks Sanders will be fully ready to lead a team and consistently attack a complicated defense three weeks from now. He's shown enough talent and growth, however, to make anyone believe he should be on the team and have a chance to develop into a starting quality player. Sanders is talented. his throat out of the end zone to wide receiver Greg Labardon in the preseason opener, and it's floated down the sideline to receiver Luke Floria later approved. Until we see Sanders get practice reps with the number one offense, we can't believe the Browns view him as having much of a shot to be the number two when the season begins.
32:35Shannon Sharpe:I agree with what they're saying. But that's my point is, okay, you're saying, have we seen enough? Have you seen enough of Dillon? What have you seen from Dillon Gabriel to make you think he can be number two? Did you hear? Did you? Who wrote that? The Browns Athletic Insider. The Browns Athletic Insider. Right? Yep. So you see Shadour do what he does. Three quarters of football. Three, I think. Maybe he played well into the fourth quarter, right? Yeah, I think so. So in a live game, you saw him play the way he played and still questioned if he can do the same thing when he has the actual starters at his disposal.
33:27I'm confused.
33:31Shannon Sharpe:My thing is, he says, no reasonable person thinks Sanders will be fully ready to lead a team and consistently attack a complicated NFL defense three weeks from now. What about Dylan Gabriel? Has he shown you enough to make them believe that three weeks from now he can lead this team against a complicated defense? I digress even further. Has Kenny Pickett ever shown you that he can lead a team against a complicated defense?
34:04Shannon Sharpe:Because all I know is that what I keep hearing is what you're telling me what he can't do. Like my coach just said, Collie, well, put it, find something that he can do. See, you keep telling me what should do or can't do. Well, your job as a coach is to put players in position and find something that they can do. Wait a minute. But where's the can coming from when we just saw him do it? I know it's a small sample size. It's three quarters of football, but everything you say they can do, he just did. Matter of fact, he just did what we already saw him do at Jackson state. He just did what we saw him do at Colorado.
34:38we just did even though it's a small samosite uncle I played the game for a very long time yeah I played the game for a very long time I'm a receiver I know what it's supposed to look like I know what it looks like when there's a quarterback that's playing in a game and he's confident he's polished his pocket presence his mannerisms I know what it should look like we've seen Kenny Pickett with the Steelers if he was the answer for Cleveland he would have been the answer in Pittsburgh.
35:09Shannon Sharpe:What's the question you're asking? Because if Kenny Pickett is the answer, I need to know the question. Did he play for the University of Pittsburgh? Yes.
35:23I don't know what more. I don't know what more. Listen, when you fill out your resume, right? When you fill out your resume and you go on for that job interview, you want to put your best foot forward. You want to keep a lasting impression. Correct. Well, the lasting impression is what we saw Friday night from the person they claim is the fourth string quarterback. Yeah. Okay, what do we do? We build from that on Saturday.
35:54Shannon Sharpe:Well, you build from that, no. You build from that starting in practice by giving him more reps, more quality reps. You don't leave him in the position that he was in where he's getting a handful of reps with the threes and fours. You give him some opportunities with the ones, with the twos. I'm not saying he has to take five, six reps with the ones, but I'm saying you sprinkle, maybe you give him one or two reps. Maybe you give him three or four reps with the twos. I do agree with this. Until we see Sanders get practice reps with the number one offense, we can't believe the Browns view him as having much of a shot to be number two when the season began.
36:25Shannon Sharpe:True. I do agree with that statement. You're not going from four to two. If you four training camp, then all of a sudden, the season starts, you're number two. They're going to need to see you with the ones and twos to feel comfortable because they got to make a decision. And when you make that decision, you release somebody, ain't no guarantee that you're going to be able to bring them back and put them on your practice squad. Somebody might sign them and put them on the active roster. So that's the case, Ocho. Do I stay on your practice squad for, say,$25 ,000,$30 ,000, or do I go somewhere and get an opportunity to get a real roster spot and make almost a million dollars a year?
37:02Shannon Sharpe:So that's the question that you have. That's the decision that you make when you release these guys. Because I'm sure there are some guys, you know, I would love to have him have another year learning our system. And when we come back next year, having the OTAs, the training camp, the season of working scout team stuff, when we come back for OTAs, Ocho, he should be good to go. He should be fully developing, good to go. So I don't want people thinking that Ocho and I are beating up on Zach Jackson. I agree with what he's saying, but my thing, I'm more talking about the Browns as an organization, as a coaching staff.
37:40Shannon Sharpe:Are you, because the fans are saying, you want us to believe you or our lying eyes? Ooh. I know what my eyes, I saw, I know what I saw. I hear what you're saying, but I see better than I hear. Come on now. Y 'all keep telling us Dylan Gabriel, Dylan Gabriel, but we have yet to see him. Now, everything that I see is that, now he's, you know, she's not better than Shadour. For most of the articles that I've been reading, and hey, people can write whatever they want to write, so I don't want to put too much emphasis, but I haven't seen, I haven't read a whole lot where they say that Dylan Gabriel is better, has played better or is playing better than Shadour.
38:21What did I tell you, Uncle? I know what you told me. What did I tell you not too long ago? Yeah. About how camp looked. Yeah. I'm not saying no names again this time because I don't want to get nobody in no trouble. What did I tell you? Yeah. And then exactly what that individual said, who's in there every day, that plays on the other side of the ball and has to see it, exactly what he said way back then, we saw it show up. The fact that he's not getting first-team reps with the ones and the twos and still went out there and looked the way he did, what does that tell you? He's getting marginal reps to begin with.
38:56Damn, the one and the twos, Ocho.
38:57Shannon Sharpe:He barely getting reps at all. And then strip. Okay. I'll say no more. Again. Say no more. So you're not doing him justice in practice, but still showed up in the game and looked apart and look like that. What does that say? But we're going to see Saturday. And I hope Dylan Gabriel gets his opportunity. Cause I would love to see what he does. And then what he gives that offense and that, that coach or staff that believes in him, I'm hoping he gets a fair shot. I'm hoping he does. I'm hoping he does. I would love to see it. I would love to see it. I know he's a competitor. He was great at Oregon.
39:36He was really good. So I'm all, I'm all, I'm all for it. Yeah. It's let the guy like,
39:51Shannon Sharpe:it's like when you end that situation, the guy flashes. Normally when guys flashes in camp, Ojo, you and I both played the NFL for a long time. We both played at a high level. Yes, sir. Every team that I've been on, when a guy flashes in practice, a guy flashes in the game, he gets to move up and he gets meaningful reps, more meaningful reps, meaning he's no longer on the third or fourth. They'll sneak some reps in with the twos. Maybe they'll give him one or two shots with the ones. That's normally how it works. they're not so set in their ways that it's like oh we just see this guy as it's kind of like TD I give you a prime example TD was a guy TD was a 6th round draft pick TD was probably like the 5th or the 6th running back but every day he made that play on kickoff and every day you saw TD get a little better he gave him a little bit more reps and so all of a sudden he go from 6 to 5 from 5 to 4 4 to 2
40:53Shannon Sharpe:after the first game of the season, TD won. Yeah. Normally, that's how it plays out. Guys show you in the game. Because when guys flash in practice, Ocho, you're thinking to yourself, I wonder if he'd do that in the game. Hell, coach, put his hands in the game. Let's see what he could do. Right. That's normally how it happened. Wade Phillips, our defensive coordinator, that's how I got in the game. He said, Dan, put his ass in the game. Let's see if they can cover him because we can't. Dan's like, okay. They put my ass in the game. Well, Shadour, I think Shadour showed you something that he deserving.
41:38Shannon Sharpe:I'm not saying you need to implement him as the starter, the number one. We didn't say that. That's not what we're saying. But I think he's shown you enough Friday to say, you know what? We might need to give him some more quality reps. with guys that's going to be playing on Sunday. And let's see him facing the number one defense, Miles Garrett, those guys over there. But let's give him Jerry Judy. Let's give him in Joku. Let's see if he can replicate some of that, what he did on Friday with the ones today. That's all we're saying. Can I say one more thing? Go ahead. One thing. If you can do what he did, without getting the practice reps in a game, without the number ones around them, things only get easier when you have the ones at your disposal that are better at the position.
42:38Cedric Tillman and Joku, Jerry Ju. It only becomes easier, Unc. Yes. It doesn't get more difficult. Now, once you're playing against a team that's skiing for you and disguises and does all the stuff, you know, the game planning for you. Okay, that's different. Then you just have to process a little bit faster. Yes. It's vanilla. They line up and they just go.
43:05Shannon Sharpe:That's exactly how it is. But Ocho, you get better at something by doing said thing. Yes. Exactly. You heard what you just said? You get better at something by doing said thing. But he wasn't doing said thing because he wasn't. and still look the way he did. I agree. I agree. They don't view it that way. They, that organization, they don't view it that way. How? I don't know. I don't know. But I'm guessing in the direction in which they're going, I'm hoping they're right. They haven't been right in the 35 quarterback that they tried previously. Or maybe I'm wrong. No. I just think I do believe that he's earned the right to get quality reps with the ones and twos.
44:00Shannon Sharpe:I'm not saying that you implement him that now he's QB one. I'm not saying he's QB two. Maybe. But I think he's earned that opportunity. I know one thing. I know one thing. they better put a statue of Andrew Barry outside that goddamn stadium.
44:27Huh. Tell you that. Listen, I can already foresee how it's going to go. I already know how it's going to go. I can already see it. They're going to continue to play, continue to play, continue to play, put everybody in front of them, continue to play, and then when this opportunity presents itself, like it did because of injury, he looked a certain way. You can't deny it. No. You can't deny it. No matter what you try to do, you can't deny it. You can't.
44:59Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, in Cleveland doing this, sometimes a man can make his destiny on the very road he took to avoid it. Sometimes you might, they might even have their quarterback even though they tried to avoid giving him the opportunity. Come on now.
45:18come on man
45:20Shannon Sharpe:on the very road you took to avoid it you found your destiny
45:29Shannon Sharpe:I just I'm not saying I'm general manager I'm not saying I'm a player personnel director I just know that when guys flash
45:44Shannon Sharpe:go back to Tom Brady they kept four quarterbacks that year. Yeah. Coach Belichick said that he saw something in Tom that said if he got more of an opportunity he might be okay. He didn't know he was going to be this. Hell if he knew he was going to be that somebody would have taken him in the first pick in the draft. Right. But he flashed enough. Guys, you know late round picks. Okay. He's showing something. He just sometimes you just need time. Sometimes you need more opportunity. You know, looking at Trey Lance, Trey Lance, like he needed time, time which the 49ers didn't have. The 49ers are on the clock.
46:31Shannon Sharpe:They got to win now with the roster that they have. They're not in rebuild. Well, the Cleveland, I mean, you just gave a guy$140 million. dollars. He's under the assumption. Now, he played it both ways. You know, I want out. Y 'all not winning. Got the money. Hey. But what are y 'all doing? Are y 'all in rebuild or you're trying to win? Because y 'all see who's in y 'all division. Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. Now, Lamar Jackson is 27, 28. He got another five to ten years in Baltimore. Joe Burrow might be a year younger than Lamar he's got another 5 to 10 years in Cincinnati well while y 'all playing musical chairs with quarterbacks they've identified their guy and he's going to be there for almost a decade
47:29Shannon Sharpe:you're not beating a team that has an established quarterback playing musical chairs with quarterbacks no not at all Not at all. Listen, it's exciting. It's exciting. And listen, even as a Bengal fan, as a Bengal player at heart, it's enjoyable to be talking about the Brown. It's enjoyable. It's exciting. It's exciting for Brown fans. I mean, when's the last time you had a player of this magnitude who was a rookie that has you guys in the national spotlight like this? Right. At all times. Basically, yeah, you got to go back to Johnny football. Oh, hey, boy, Johnny was special, boy. Yeah. And out of Texas A &M, Johnny was special, boy.
48:23Yeah. You were special.
48:26Shannon Sharpe:So it's – we'll see. it'll be interesting to see when they go out to practice today, I mean, excuse me, today tomorrow what comes back? What type of reps did Shadour get? Did he get reps with the ones? Did he get a rep or two with the ones? Did he get anything with the twos? Or was he back relegated to being the fourth quarterback and getting one rep with the fours or no reps? Or just getting side work?
48:58that's going to be the tail that that's going to tell us ocho yeah because what they talking
49:04Shannon Sharpe:and and what's actually happening we'll find out yeah we'll find out and we'll see what they do how they play this thing out on saturday when they play the game when you're moving like i do trips don't always come together weeks in advance sometimes production shoots interviews or something I've got to travel for on a short notice, like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver and everything came together fast. Once it was locked in, I had to be ready to go. That's where Amazon Prime can make a difference. When something comes together quickly, you can get what you need like grooming essentials, neck pillows, eye masks, even snacks for the flights, so you're ready to show up for it.
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51:41It can also use approved apps, connected tools, files, and browser contexts to help move the work forward. And you stay in control. You give direction, review drafts, approve actions, redirect the work, and choose the final output.
51:54Shannon Sharpe:So you spend less time sorting through busy work and more time making progress on the work that matters. Put ChatGPT to work on your most ambitious ideas and projects. Get started at ChatGPT.com by selecting Work Mode. Available on Plus and Pro Plans. Ooh, New Orleans. Boy, y 'all are in heap of trouble. Spencer Rattler. So if you just take that R and put a D. Yeah. Saints fans. That's what y 'all got to look forward to. And the preseason opener, despite throwing a pick six, rookie Tyler Shook comes off the bench and outplays Rattler. If you can believe that, it's kind of like getting bit by a water moccasin or a rattlesnake.
52:42Shannon Sharpe:it's just how close are you to antivenom I mean both are gonna hurt right both are gonna and excruciating pain swelling will be immediately shortness of breath yes that's what you get with these two quarterbacks I don't know why they didn't I hope Kellen Moore who's a Super Bowl winning offensive coordinator I hope he signed a long long long term deal like six years because it's going to be a while with those two quarterbacks. Yes, sir. Before they win. Saints quarterback in the first preseason game, Rattler was 7 of 11, 53 yards, zero touchdowns, zero interception, but he did lose a fumble. Tyler Shuck, 15 of 22, 165, one touchdown, one pick six.
53:29Ocho, go ahead. Listen, while I was watching the game today, before the game started, I threw out a tweet to Saints fans. I have a lot of Saints fans that follow me on Twitter, excuse me, that follow me on X. And the question was, are you guys optimistic about Spencer Rattler as quarterback number one? And all the answers were unanimous in saying that they don't believe in him. And there were a few that said, you know what, I'm optimistic about him. He can improve in his second year. So based on the small sample side, what we're able to see from Spencer Rattler today, it didn't look promising.
54:05But again, it is a preseason. It is a preseason. maybe a little rusty. First time out against competition outside of yourself. So I want to give him a little grace. I want to give him a little grace. But he's not a rookie, Ocho. Yeah, I know what you mean.
54:20Shannon Sharpe:He started real games last year. I would expect him to look a little better the second time around in a vanilla type game plan than a rookie. Than say Jackson Dart. Say Shador Sanders. Say some of these guys. Even Shook. Okay, if Shook's going to struggle, okay, I get that. He's a rookie. First time playing in the NFL. Now the guy that started games in the NFL to play that, ugh. Yeah. I mean, listen, it looked rough, but last year, watching Spencer Rattler, he played bad at times, but at times he showed flashes of what he can do. What we have to find, he has to find that happy medium, that keel of balance, of consistency, where it doesn't drop below the bar.
55:03The standard has to be the standard. of consistency. He hadn't found that yet. Obviously, I'm not going to panic. I'm not saying I'm a Saints fan, but just for his sake, I think quarterback number one is Spencer Rattler. I don't see a rookie beating them out. Obviously, it looked good. Tyler, how do you say pronounce his last name? Shook. Tyler Shook, obviously probably going against the threes and the four. Once he did get into the game, you would look a certain way. You would look a little better in that manner, but I think Spencer Rattler is the answer for them, and it's unfortunate. But again, it's a small sample size I wouldn't panic right now being that everything is so vanilla but the fact that it is vanilla you should look to par you should look to par with it being your your
55:45Shannon Sharpe:your second yeah second year yeah I think the thing is was for me Spencer Rattler's style of play will eventually get him cut and a coach fired how that's what happens when you're not consistent at that position. Yeah, yeah. Because that position gets coaches fired quicker than anything, get general managers terminated quicker than anything. Now, they felt comfortable enough. They was like, okay, we're going to wait until the – I think they got shook in the second round, second or third round. They was like, we like Spencer Rattler. They like him. Right. He was a highly sought-after guy, went to the University of Oklahoma.
56:26Shannon Sharpe:You know, and then Caleb Williams came. he transfers go to the university of south carolina so he has some armed talent but he's he's just a little inconsistent from for my taste and it's hard to win when you don't get consistency out of that position because eventually it will get him cut and it'll get the coach fired yeah because that we had richard smith used to tell us all the time he says that type of play will get you cut and get me fired all right yeah yeah i can't get any better because all i can do is just give you what you should be doing. It's incumbent upon you. He's kind of, you know, loose with the ball, is easily knocked out of his hands.
57:04Shannon Sharpe:He turns it over. But this is what the Saints, you know. What happened was, is that when you have quarterbacks like Breeze and you have quarterbacks like Manning and you have quarterbacks like Brady, you don't want to waste a guy. So you're picking guys in the fourth or fifth round and you're letting them sit with no chance of getting, not doing anything. And so when those guys move on, now you got to rush. They tried Jameis. Jameis tears his knee. They tried Taysom Hill, but I never thought Taysom Hill was a quarterback. He was very good in the role that he was in. As a Jack, he'll play a little quarterback.
57:42Shannon Sharpe:He'll put a fullback. He can play some tight end. He's good on special teams. He's a Jack. Do a multitude of things, but I didn't think he was a specialist or a great quarterback. So I never thought that experiment was going to work. I think Jameis could have been good, but Jameis tore his knee and then they kind of moved on from Jameis. The way I look at it, I think defensively, they might be a little better. They're starting to get a little older. Honey Badger retired. Jordan, Cam Jordan, I think he's going into his what? His 15th season? He was in that 2011 class with Vaughn Miller and JJ Watt, all those guys.
58:21But in that division, you've got to get better
58:26Shannon Sharpe:because Tampa's gotten better. I think Atlanta's gotten better. Yeah, they have. And so I just don't believe that the quarterback that the Saints want or needs that can get them to where they want to be, a consistent team, you know, a team that wins consistently, that can get to the playoffs and maybe win a game or two in the playoffs, I don't believe that quarterback is on their roster. No, I don't think so either. I think heavily. I think for the sake of Spencer Rattler, I think the fact that he has Alvin Kamara that takes some of the pressure off of him. You have Rashid Shahid. You have Chris Olave.
59:00I'm not sure who the number three will be there, obviously, but I think his job will be a little easier because of the talent he has around him. Chris Olave is a very, very good receiver. Rashid Shahid is a burner. He's a very, very good receiver. Now, it's going to be up to Kellen Moore to put those players in positions to be able to make sure Spencer Rattler doesn't get him fired. You know? There's one thing you can do. When you have a quarterback as bad as him based on their play, you have to find a way to hide their weakness. You have to find a way to hide their weaknesses, and it's easy to do when you have players of that magnitude.
59:33Alvin Kamara is still one of the best in the NFL.
59:36Shannon Sharpe:I'm just not going to let Kamara beat me. I'm going to make Spencer Rattler throw the football. Okay. But listen, that's the thing. If you're going to go into a game saying, you know what, I'm going to make Spencer Bradley beat me. I like his chances with Chris Olavi and Rashid Shahid. I like it. I like it. What was their record last year? Oh, shit. Oh, what? Hey, you know who the number three is? Who? Brandon Cooks. Yeah. Come on, now. Come on, now. I don't think he's the – he's not the Brandon Cook that was first in New Orleans or the Brandon Cooks that was in New England or even the Brandon Cooks that was at the Rams.
1:00:16I mean, think, Ocho Dam, he's been like 14th in the last four years. Yeah, I mean, listen, he can still run. Oh, he can still run. He can still get deep. He can still do his thing in the slot. I hate using the word serviceable, but you can put him in position to make plays.
1:00:32Shannon Sharpe:Right. That's it. I know. What was their record last year? The Saints. I mean, offensive line, how good is the offensive line going to be to be able to protect him. Right. I mean, they gave up five sacks today.
1:00:51Shannon Sharpe:They were 5-12 last year, Ocho. That's tough. That's tough. Look, everybody's running vanilla. Vanilla offense, vanilla defense, vanilla special teams, and nobody's showing anything. Nobody's trying to put anything on tape that's going to be extraordinary. Right. Spencer Rattler, having played, I just expect, It's kind of like a second-year guy. A second-year guy makes mistakes. The coaches are going to be harder on him because he's already gone through this the previous year. Bro, you've already – and Spencer Rattler played in real games. Sometimes, Ocho, guys get on the practice squad. They don't get off that, and then they come back and have to go through the thing again.
1:01:29Shannon Sharpe:But Spencer Rattler has been in meaningful ball games. He's actually played in a regular season – and played in regular season games. So I would expect him to look a little sharper than what he did. Now, he was only, I mean, he only threw seven passes, and so he's probably only in their 14, 15 plays. The question is long-term, because that's what we're getting down to. Is he the answer long-term? No. No. Rayfield is Tampa's long-term solution. Atlanta believe Penix Jr. is their long-term solution. Bryce Carolina believe Bryce Young is their long-term solution. The question is, now, based on what they did, Now, maybe they believe Shuck is going to be able to come in and unseat Spencer Rattler and be their long-term solution.
1:02:16Shannon Sharpe:But in order to win at this level, at that level, in today's game, you got to get a quarterback. Because you know why, Ocho? Because he's the one position that you cannot hide. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I got a weak corner, I roll coverage. if I got a weak safety I put his ass down in the box I keep him out of the hole okay if I got an offensive lineman I'll slide protection, I'll chip the back I'll say hey you make sure you chip your way out so I can find ways to protect a weakness if it's something other than the quarterback you can't hide the guy that has the ball every single time yeah you're right but I like that you said that for some reason I'm thinking from an offensive perspective thinking as myself as a receiver yeah the quality the quality of receivers they have you know in in New Orleans I'm thinking Chris Olave, Rashid Shahid, Brandon Cooks they're so good I can't remember the tightest name he's a very good service of tight in this way I can't remember his last name but I'm thinking that they can be put in positions to be able to hide the weakness that Spencer Rattler may have whatever it may be.
1:03:30That's what I'm thinking. That's my thought process. And as an officer coordinator, whoever the officer coordinator is, I'm not sure. Kevin Moore, the head coach.
1:03:38Shannon Sharpe:Remember, he's the officer coordinator for Philly. He's calling the plays too? Yeah. Oh, man, listen, man. I don't want to lose my job. So what do I need to do? I need to use those around me. I need to use those weapons. Right. Put them in advantageous positions because my quarterback is not as good as I'd like. Right. Juwan Johnson and Taysom Hill are the tight ends. Oh, Juwan Johnson. Hey, he nice. A young, young, young, young, young fella. Yeah, he's more of an F. Yeah. More of the H-back type. Got receiving skills. Got more of a move tight end. Taysom Hill is the same thing. You can do a lot of different things with Taysom Hill.
1:04:20Shannon Sharpe:You can put him at fullback. You can, hey, you bring him in and run the tush-push with him. you know you can throw him the football you can do a lot of things with him and Kelly Moore has a very creative mind but you've got to get consistent play from the quarterback position because it's the one position you can't hide eventually I'll figure you out and I'll make him beat me I'll make him beat me and I'll see if he can do it hey that's tough that's tough the fact that I asked that question and 90 % of the Saints fans were like, eh, it's going to be a long year. We might win four games. Hey, we won five last year.
1:05:01We still haven't addressed the position that is the most important that we do need. And obviously, they took Tyler Shuck in, what, second round?
1:05:11Shannon Sharpe:I think it took him in the second round. 40th overall, Ocho. 40th overall. It was the second. Okay, yeah. So I'm assuming. I'm not sure what they saw on film from him as opposed to what we saw on film from 12. But listen, that conversation, it's like beating a dead horse. They saw what they saw. I'm not sure who the scouts were and felt he would answer. So maybe he is. Maybe he is. We'll find out. Yep. Metastatic triple negative breast cancer. It felt like my world stopped. But moments like this. Read it again, mom. Okay, honey. Keep me going. This is why I choose Tridelvy. Tredelvie, sasetuzumab govotecan HCIY, is a prescription medicine for adults with triple negative breast cancer that is spread, or metastatic cancer, and who have received two or more prior treatments, at least one for metastatic disease.
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Recap the top NFL stories with Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson as they react to Shedeur Sanders' preseason debut with the Cleveland Browns, performances from Spencer Rattler and Tyler Shough of the New Orleans Saints and more.
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25:47 - Sanders still behind Dillon Gabriel on Browns depth chart
43:46 - Saints QB1 woes
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