In short
NFL preseason Week 2 recap and debate, focusing on rookie/young QB poise and the Bears’ early offensive momentum; plus a guest interview about Giants RB Tyrone Tracy Jr.’s goals, training camp, and personality takes on QBs.
Guests
Tyrone Tracy Jr., New York Giants running back (rookie season: 192 carries, 839 yards, 5 TDs). He discusses training camp recovery, locker-room vibes, a joint-practice scuffle with Will McDonough, and his season goals.
Key claims
- Cam Ward showed calm, patient pocket presence; critics note drops and an “overthrown” but catchable TD pass to Van Jefferson.
- Preseason polish may fade once QBs face real hits; “play fast, but don’t play in a hurry.”
- Bears look “legit” early: Caleb Williams’ 92-yard opening drive, plus improved offensive line and receiver impact (including Luther Burden).
- Bears’ offense improved despite preseason caveats; division toughness makes scoring a priority.
Notable examples
- Bears beat Bills 38-0; Williams went 5-for-6 on the opening drive with a TD to Olamide Zaccheaus.
- Ward: multiple drops, but a dime to Jefferson over the route.
- Tracy: wants 1,500 yards and 10 TDs; says the scuffle happened because hits were outside agreed joint-practice rules.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAnalyzing Cam Ward's Performance
0:00 to 0:34
Discuss the strengths and weaknesses of Cam Ward's preseason game.
“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”
Analyzing Cam Ward's Performance
2:07 to 3:30
Discuss the strengths and weaknesses of Cam Ward's preseason game.
“Should have been 3-7 at the bare minimum, Ocho.”
The Importance of Preseason Reps
3:30 to 5:38
Explore why preseason games are crucial for player development.
“Yeah, but I will say too, Anken Joe, what we have to be cautious about is it is preseason.”
Quarterback Adaptation and Pressure
5:38 to 7:42
Discuss how quarterbacks adapt to pressure and the speed of the game.
“Joe, I had my coach every preseason game.”
Expectations for High-Powered Offenses
7:42 to 9:50
Evaluate the expectations for new offensive lineups in the NFL.
“He's talked a lot, you know, in this past week about how high-powered they are offensively and what he expects out of that Falcons core with that wide receiver core that he has.”
Preview: Bears vs. Bills
9:50 to 12:45
Preview the Bears vs. Bills game and discuss Caleb Williams' performance.
“So I think it's a lot shorter, like five or six games now.”
Preview: Bears vs. Bills
12:51 to 14:14
Preview the Bears vs. Bills game and discuss Caleb Williams' performance.
“And now you're taking a guy's trip that actually matters.”
Preview: Bears vs. Bills
14:18 to 14:50
Preview the Bears vs. Bills game and discuss Caleb Williams' performance.
“Pacific And catch replays Monday on BET Presented by iHeart Oh, yeah, yeah.”
Bears' Impressive Preseason Performance
14:50 to 17:43
Discussion on the Chicago Bears' strong performance and key players.
“Today is the first time the Bears fans can see what Caleb Williams can do in Ben Johnson's offense.”
Dark Horse Teams for the Season
17:43 to 18:42
Exploring potential surprise teams in the upcoming NFL season.
“And I really don't want to, like, get a speeding ticket.”
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Upcoming NFL Season Excitement
18:42 to 19:16
Anticipation for the NFL season and upcoming matchups.
“I just understand how things are going to play out.”
Game Performance and Player Analysis
19:16 to 22:27
Analysis of player performances and team strategies in preseason.
“I can see if I scored zero and we lost, but the point of a team game is the win.”
Division Competition and Team Improvements
22:27 to 28:00
Discussing the competitiveness of the Bears' division and team improvements.
“Well, if it was that easy, so why wasn't Chicago any better than what they were if all it was was about the players?”
Evaluating Player Health and Performance
28:00 to 29:20
Discussion on player injuries and team dynamics in the NFL.
“But, you know, hey, they still got an outstanding offensive line.”
Defensive Strategies and Assignments
29:20 to 31:00
Analysis of defensive assignments and their impact on gameplay.
“Yeah, it's kind of like the situation that Cam Hayward is in.”
Offensive Performance Insights
31:00 to 33:00
Insights into offensive strategy and player performance during games.
“And the guy bounced right outside, and he gone.”
Feedback on Quarterback Performance
33:00 to 35:50
Discussion on quarterback decisions and their consequences in the game.
“Remember on the goal line, and he jumped off sides like five times, four or five times in a row.”
Feedback on Quarterback Performance
36:28 to 36:58
Discussion on quarterback decisions and their consequences in the game.
“And now you're taking a guy's trip that actually matters.”
Guest Introduction: Tyrone Tracy Jr.
36:58 to 37:50
Introduction of Tyrone Tracy Jr. as a guest and discussion of his rookie season.
“ChatGPT can do more than answer questions.”
Guest Introduction: Tyrone Tracy Jr.
37:55 to 38:40
Introduction of Tyrone Tracy Jr. as a guest and discussion of his rookie season.
“Live Sunday, August 9th on CBS at 1 p.m.”
Tyrone Tracy's Training Camp Experience
38:40 to 41:00
Discussion on training camp, team dynamics, and personal goals for the season.
“Joining us in the chat right now is the New York Giants running back.”
Joint Practice Dynamics and Competition
41:00 to 42:00
Insights into joint practice dynamics and the competitive nature of players.
“So I got to continue to speak life into my situation for each and every person I'm around.”
Joint Practice Insights
42:00 to 43:28
Hear about the dynamics of joint practices and what to expect during them.
“It's what because your coach had a conversation with our coach.”
Jackson Dart's Performance
43:28 to 45:47
Discussion on Jackson Dart's calmness and performance as a quarterback.
“But other than that, like, Let me finish my run because I'm just trying to do my job, you know what I'm saying, finish off a run.”
Jameis Winston's Locker Room Antics
45:47 to 48:22
A lighthearted look at Jameis Winston's fun personality and locker room stories.
“And, like, he's just out there hooping now.”
Comparing Leadership Styles: Jameis vs. Russ
48:22 to 50:23
Explore the contrasting leadership styles of Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson.
“And like, I don't know how to explain it.”
Challenges and Goals for the Upcoming Season
50:23 to 52:50
Insights on team performance challenges and goals for the next season.
“You scored the second fewest points in the red zone.”
Transition from Receiver to Running Back
52:50 to 54:43
An exploration of the transition from receiver to running back and its implications.
“It's fun to be around people, fun to be around coaches, fun to be in the locker room, everything.”
Top Five Running Backs Discussion
54:43 to 56:01
Discussion about the all-time top five running backs in NFL history.
“line from my measurements you know I'm saying like I was an average I was an average receiver but then like you switch it to running back, you know, now I'm running a, you know, four, four, seven.”
Top Running Backs Discussion
56:01 to 1:00:45
The hosts debate their top running backs of all time and discuss their unique styles.
“to your game that they can't take away from you?”
Pro Bowl Aspirations
1:00:46 to 1:01:51
The conversation shifts to expectations for player performance and the Pro Bowl selection process.
“I mean, hey, ain't the Pro Bowl like a fan vote?”
Social Media and Madden Ratings
1:01:52 to 1:03:00
Tyrone Tracy Jr. shares his social media handles and discusses his Madden rating.
“Where can the chat find you on social media?”
Social Media and Madden Ratings
1:03:55 to 1:04:09
Tyrone Tracy Jr. shares his social media handles and discusses his Madden rating.
“PrEP can be about 99 % effective when taken as prescribed.”
Social Media and Madden Ratings
1:04:16 to 1:05:15
Tyrone Tracy Jr. shares his social media handles and discusses his Madden rating.
“IceCube's Big 3 season is heating up, and it all comes down to this.”
Transcript
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2:18But from what you saw, what did you like about what you saw from Cam Ward? I mean, listen, a continuation of what he did the first preseason of the game. Obviously, he was only two for seven, but there was a drop of Van Jefferson on that over route that he should have had. That was a beautiful throw. I've seen a lot of people in the comments when I mentioned the throw, being that it was overthrown. I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah, that's a catchable ball. For a professional receiver? Yeah, that's a very catchable ball. And it was a dime. Outside of that, a few drops. He had a few drops.
2:50Other than that, it was good. It was good. People will look at the stat line and say, ah, it doesn't look the same as opposed to how he did in the first game. But still, he was the same, calm, poised, and control of everything. And he made good decisions with the ball. Yeah, I agree with you, Ocho. My thing when I'm watching is his poise and patience in the pocket, him not getting rattled. and he making the right reads, Anken Ocho. I think that's the biggest key. You know, I sit back and watch these young guys come into this league, this grown man league, just to see how they adapt and how they are in the pocket, whether it's, you know, Cam Ward or should do it.
3:27I enjoy watching those guys play, man. They look like they in for a pretty good season. Yeah, but I will say too, Anken Joe, what we have to be cautious about is it is preseason. These defenses are very, very vanilla and the quarterbacks haven't got hit yet. I know that rookie, I know they look polished, you know, based on what we've seen so far. But when you get hit upside the head a few times, you know, and you get the jitters a little bit, will they still be able to have that same calmness, that same relaxness, that same poise under pressure when you've been hit or sacked a couple of times?
4:01You can play fast, but not in a hurry. I think the thing is, is that you have more time than you think. And a lot of times when rookies come in, they speed themselves up. And it's normally their second year, Joe and Ocho. You heard people say this all the time. All of a sudden, the game slowed down for me. Yeah. And that's what you want to have happen. You want the game to slow down. You don't want the game to speed you up. Absolutely. Play fast, but don't play in a hurry. I like Cam Ward's poise. I agree with you, Joe. I like his poise. I thought he was very deliberate. Yeah, he had some very unfortunate situation where the guy dropped the ball.
4:34A professional wide receiver. Got to make that catch. Now, if you're in high school, you don't make that catch. Okay, fine. And bro, you A. But as a professional, a guy that's getting paid to catch the football, those are the type of – that's what you're paying for. Yeah. That's what you're paying for. You're paying, you know, to make the difficult ones. I mean, hey, you're going to make the routine. You've got to make enough of the routine ones. But every once in a while, you've got to come down with a – you've got to help your quarterback out. He's not going to always be able to hit you between the numbers.
5:03Right. And so now this is your opportunity to help him out. But I like what I saw from Cam Ward. I really did. Atlanta fell behind, but, you know, Austin, Eastern, Eastern stick. He came in and threw the ball because, you know, Penix Jr. didn't play at all. That's the only thing, Ocho. I was like, damn, they don't let these guys play at all. Yeah. I mean, Ocho, I couldn't even imagine. Could you imagine standing on the sideline, the first, second preseason game, Ocho, and not even dressed out? Hey, you know how I am. You've heard enough stories about how I was. I'm practicing. I'm not practicing.
5:41I'm playing in the preseason. I don't care. I do not care. Joe, I had my coach every preseason game. I forced Coach Lewis to call timeouts in the preseason, Joe, just to get me out the game. Man, I need these reps. I need to get acclimated to game speed. Game speed. I don't care if we can practice 100 times, Joe. We can practice 100 times. it's different and I wanted my body I wanted my body to get accustomed to that as fast as possible before week one came along go ahead Joe go ahead man I think a lot of the guys especially top guys who don't really play a lot in the preseason okay Ocho is it because they take all the reps and snaps in practice and they don't want to hold them into the game we don't we normally we normally break it down Joe we normally have 50 to 60 plays practice is scripted and of those 10 plays so we go i don't know how y 'all did ocho but we did 10 plays yeah starters the starters would probably take six to seven of those snaps now maybe there's a maybe maybe a repeat something didn't go well and mike would say okay i want to see that again with the starters but you're going to take at least seven of the starters going to take at least at bare minimum seven of those reps and then the other three will get divided up and okay fine yeah So you're going to get the lion's share of the rep.
7:05The reason why it's different, Ocho, is because you got to realize, come game time, your pads are taped down. Now they feel tighter. A lot of guys got all their pads in their pants. They're going to feel tighter. So I needed to get accustomed to that because in practice, ain't nobody taping no jerseys. Right. No. We taping our jerseys down. I mean, come game time, ain't them things tight. Yeah. Tight, tight. Amen. Go ahead. Y 'all know the fans. They're ready to see it. I wanted to see Penis get out there a little bit and spin it, you know, at least for a quarter, Uncle Ocho. But, you know, I know he got some high-power weapons.
7:42He's talked a lot, you know, in this past week about how high-powered they are offensively and what he expects out of that Falcons core with that wide receiver core that he has. And I think a lot is going to determine on how quick he can pick up on things and how soon can he adapt to being, like, one of the top quarterbacks in his league. All I know is this. If I'm going big game hunting, the first time I fire my weapon, ain't going to want to see that big game. I'm going to get some shots off her. Yeah, yeah. I know y 'all don't hunt, so excuse me, but I'm just trying to give you an analogy. You understand what I'm saying.
8:20If I'm going big game hunting, the first time I fire that shot is not going to see when I'm looking at something. I'm going to make sure this thing is capable of firing. Right. In case you have to make some adjustments. Exactly. Exactly. Maybe my aim. Maybe there's some adjustments that I need to make. But I'm not going into the game without having seen these guys do something. OTAs and minicabs and training camp and joint practices, all that's fine and good. But that ain't the game. That ain't the game. Even joint practices are different than the actual game. Your mindset is different than the actual game.
9:08Absolutely. And so that's, and like I said, I think my last year, Mike said, hey, you're not going, but I want you to come in and get some work. So I came in, got my 15, 21, 10s. He said, hey, just warm up. Hey, get your good workout in. And that's it for the evening because I want to take a look at these other guys and see what I got. I already know what I got with you, 84. four okay cool but Ocho I had them play three games hell I played the first game the second game the third game so what the hell is he looking for in the fourth game that I haven't done in the first three that he needed to see in game four so I get that but these guys Ocho they start they don't play game one they don't play game two I'm like and some of them don't play at all oh the the preseason is a lot shorter nowadays right yeah it's only three games it's only three shorter.
9:59We used to play at least 10 games. So I think it's a lot shorter, like five or six games now. Yeah, man. These guys waiting, man. That rhythm and time at Arcan Ocho, you can't substitute that, bro. You can't substitute them game reps, man. You can't substitute that. You can go and practice and run as many drills as you want. It just don't add up. Nah. No, sir.
10:24Woo! Yeah, but that's... That's the difference now, Ocho. That's not what we have. Ocho, we might have been able to get a cup squeeze a couple more years, Ocho. I took some hits in preseason. It was like this? Hey, I played 14 years. I played in the preseason every year at least three to four games. Yeah. Ocho, by your bulljabbing, that's two seasons. Hey. I could have got six feet. No, I was good. I was good. But, uh... I like what I saw with Cam Ward. I think he's going to be fine as long as they can protect him. I like the receivers, but sometimes you've got to make tough catches for your quarterback.
11:06Sometimes you've got to help him out. You ask the quarterback to help you out, like I would always say, John, just protect me. I'm going to make an attempt, even when I'm going over the middle, give me an opportunity because I want to take the shot in my back, not in my face. Because if worse comes to worse, Ocho, I'm going to jump like this here over the middle and take a shot in the back. I ain't really trying to do this like this here. And get that shot. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. So I'll take the shot in the back, Joe. I ain't trying to get that face on. Kind of like what, you remember when Antoine Bolden got hit?
11:41Yeah. Remember that shot he took and he came back? You don't want that shot in the face. You want that shot in the back. So I always tell your quarterback to protect you.
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14:59The opening drive, Williams led on a seven-play 92-yard drive. Williams completed five of six, 97 yards. 36 of those yards came on a touchdown pass to Olamide Zaccheaus. Yeah. Man. I know it's the preseason, Ocho, and I don't want to get too far in front of this, but the Bears look good. Why was I just getting ready to say that? I was getting ready to say the same thing. Listen, I know what Caleb Williams can do. I've seen him at USC. I've seen flashes of him last year without someone like Ben Johnson at the helm to help him develop. Without Ben Johnson's creativity from an offensive standpoint, understanding what he can do and help Caleb get to that next level at the quarterback position, I want to talk about that guy there, Luther Burden.
15:50that goddamn Luther Burden boy look good boy that goddamn rookie at receiver bruh Luther I've never met you before but you look good tonight obviously in the preseason people say oh it's preseason don't get too high don't get too low but you look good boy I've been watching the past two weeks this week I mean it doesn't matter who's throwing the ball I'm not sure why he's running with the twos and threes what you mean so he's going to play in front of Roman Dunze and DJ No, no, no. No, I obviously, I mean, three receivers. Okay, Zaccheaus is in the slot. Ooh, that's A. A. They got some decisions to make over there offensively because he looked good.
16:32Now, maybe when they go five wide and you saw they ran a lot of tight ends that they had Loveland and they had Cole Comet. Now, he is a multiple set. He'll run a lot of different sets. He'll go two tight. He'll go three wide. He'll go five wide. He'll go empty. He'll put his backs out. but this offense looked really I thought overall I thought they played well I thought the defense got after the Bills I thought the offense moved the ball whether it was Williams or Bajet I guess that's how you say his name he came in with 13 or 22 for 196 and a touchdown I thought Williams was unbelievable the opening drive to go 92 yards on five or six passing he had 107 yards they had over 500 yards of offense and like I said I don't want to get too far in front of myself but they look good But they did look good, and they're going to be a lot better because they have a guy that has an offensive mind because you got a quarterback and you need somebody that's imaginative, that has an imagination to put him in position and say, hey, son, I want you to be you.
17:32I'm going to put you in the best position possible. The offensive line is much improved. The offensive line is much improved. Very much. The Bears look good. And like, Chad, y 'all, look, I know it's preseason. It's only the second game of preseason. And I really don't want to, like, get a speeding ticket. But let's just say I'm going 40 in the 35. I ain't going 55-60, but I'm a little over the speed limit. I'm liking what I'm seeing from the Bears. Yeah, and I'm going to say this again. I think I said it on either last night's show or maybe I said it sometime last week. The same teams that are always in contention are going to be in contention this year.
18:13Chad, I'm going out on a limb. I'm going to say it before the season even gets here. The two teams that I think are the dark horses to surprise everybody and make a run and having a playoff appearance. The Chicago Bears and the Carolina Panthers. I'm telling you, people might people might in the chat, you might laugh, but say, yeah, right, whatever, whatever. I'm telling you, watch. And when it happens, don't don't call don't call me Ultradamus. I just know. I just understand how things are going to play out. I'm excited. I'm excited for the football season, man. You don't understand. Yeah, it's right around the corner.
18:51It's right around the corner. We're, what, September 4th? Yeah, Thursday night. Dallas and the Eagles. So we're about three weeks away. Well, we're two weeks from Thursday, right? So two weeks from Thursday. Okay, that's not bad. What the hell are we supposed to do in between that time? we'll find something to talk about. We'll talk about you scoring zero points in the big three. Celebrity game. That's a whole show by itself. I mean, it is a whole show by itself. I can see if I scored zero and we lost, but the point of a team game is the win. First of all, you can't score zero. I mean, you can score whatever you want.
19:31You had zero. If you score, that means you put something on the board. I ain't scored no touchdowns. You understand it. I was, listen, listen, there are so many other aspects to my game outside of just scoring because we already had two prolific scorers on the court. So what did I do? My defensive presence. I was like this. They couldn't even get by me. And then I had them messing up, turning the ball over. You should have saw me. You should have been cross-sized. Why you didn't make Gilly turn it over? He did. You didn't have 21 and 13. I made Gilly turn it over twice. Turn the ball over twice.
20:07They're playing defense. And they tried to pick, and I squeezed right through the pick, like Michael Jackson went right through the pick. Uh-huh. No, no, no, no, sir. I got skinny real quick. I got skinny real quick. No, we didn't go. Oh, you followed over the screen? No, I went. No, I ain't even ball. You followed through it. I went right through it. But I got skinny, so it didn't work. Yeah, listen, man. Listen, so many other aspects of my game was on point where I didn't even need to be a scorer. That's how great I am. Right. That's how great I am. I think in watching the Bears, I think Ibra Flues and his system or whomever he had coaching Caleb Williams, this is the best we've seen the Bears offense look.
20:51Chicago scored zero touchdowns on his opening possessions last year. So in 17 games, they had zero touchdowns on opening possessions. And like I said, I understand this is a preseason game. They had the most drives ending in punts. They were dead last in total offense. So, look, you can't go nowhere but off. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The Bears were dead last in total offense last year? Yes, 32.
21:24I like them to finish in the top 10. I like them to finish in the top 10 with all limb goddamn weapons. Yeah, they got some weapons. they had two I mean they had 43 carries and the thing is that I like about him that he he'll run it and he'll throw it they had 39 pass attempts they had 43 rush attempts first of all that's a lot of that's a lot of damn plays even for a preseason yeah let's get that out of the way but it's the Bill it's the Bill's fault it's the Bill's fault too many goddamn three and outs Trubisky Mike White
22:06Frank Gore Jr. looked good. He had a fumble, but he reminds you of his dad. Yeah, you got to have that thing high and tight, especially when that traffic comes. He didn't see him coming. He saw the guy from the side, and that guy just pulled it out. Little peanut punch. And they are in a tough division. That is a very tough division that the Bears are in. You got Green Bay. You got Detroit. You got Minnesota. so you got to get better you don't have no choice one thing you have to get better on is putting up points because every other team you just named they putting up points and I'm not talking about field goals either but it's going to be interesting to see what Detroit is without Ben Johnson well hey wait a minute you got to understand even without Ben Johnson there the same players are still there so I think even with the creativity regardless if the creativity isn't there, the players that are called, they still have players that can go get it.
23:06Jamison Williams. Yeah. Williams. Oh, God. Why am I talking so fast? Slow down, Ocho. Slow down. J-Mo can go get it. Amon Rossi Brown can go get it. Jameer, you know what you get from David Montgomery and Jameer Gia because, I mean, I think regardless of who's calling the plays, the play calling job is that easy because of the elite talent at his disposal to be able to use. Well, if it was that easy, so why wasn't Chicago any better than what they were if all it was was about the players? Because they got the same players. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's no Amon Ross St. Brown. But you said, we said they look good.
23:43Did we not say the Bears look good? Now, what player that we said looked good that wasn't there last year? You told me it's the players. It doesn't matter who the play caller is. So it shouldn't matter that Ibra Flux was there or whomever the play caller was. Oh, listen, I'm speaking specifically on personnel and skills. Caleb Williams, was he not the quarterback? Let's please. No, no, you're not understanding what you're saying. I'm going by positions. I'll tell you what, how about this here? Who has the better players? And I mean, no disrespect to what the Bears have. I'm just saying. Take the Bears aside.
24:23It's level, right? I'll give you another example. What happened to the Eagles when they lost both of their coordinators after going to the Super Bowl? They had the same players. Jalen Hurst was there. A.J. Brown was there. Devontae Smith was there. What happened the next season? Did they look the same?
24:48It's not a trick question. Hold on. I know it's not a trick question, but I'm trying to think. when they went to the Super Bowl. They lost. They lost both coordinators, the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinators. The same players were there. Did they look... Oh, wait. Hey, is that the year where the defense couldn't tackle a goddamn... Couldn't tackle a soul? You said it didn't matter.
25:15Yeah, I think... Hey, don't wait. Why are you going to put me in there? You're making two different points. Because the Eagles' problem was their defense. They wouldn't tackle no goddamn back. What about their offense? To that point, it looked like they was doing it on goddamn purpose. What about their offense? How'd their offense look? They was all right. They was all right. Jalen Hurts had more turnover in the first half of the season than he had the entire season the year before. But you said they looked the same. Oh, no. Wait, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't blame the offensive wolves on the individual player on the person called that.
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25:48I'm asking you, did their offense look the same as the offense that went to the Super Bowl? Did their defense look the same as the defense that led them to the Super Bowl? That's all I'm asking. No, but listen, I tell you what. I tell you what. I love the points you're trying to make, but I know the makeup of the Detroit Lions offense, that they're still going to look to par regardless of whether Ben Johnson is there or not because of what they have there. What about defense? They lost AG too, though. Ooh, that's nice. They still got Brian Branch. They still got Aiden Hutchinson. He's back. Yeah, he's back.
26:30They got one more dog over there. Terry and Arnold. I'm losing. I'm losing. Are you talking about Kerry Joseph? Yes, the safety. Kerry Joseph. Hell, he had what? I think he had eight or nine picks. Eight interceptions. Terry and Arnold. He got to keep his hands to himself. Why would I just get rid of the state? He just had – yeah, that's it. That's it. I think they're going to be right on both sides of the ball. I know one thing. They're going to put some points out. Yeah, it's always – sometimes you have a, like – it takes you – sometimes it takes a team a year to adjust. Yeah, right. Because Ben has been there so long.
27:07I mean, he's been there, what, four or five years? I mean, that's the only person that Jerry Goff has had in his ear since he's been in Detroit. An AG. He's been to D.C. for, what, three years there? Very good. They're an extremely talented ball club. They're one of the favorites, along with the Eagles. The Eagles, Detroit, the Packers, the Niners, you know, Tampa. Hey, hold on. I got a question. You just said the Niners. You think the Niners still going to look the same? they got Robert they got Robert
27:51Debo didn't give him anything last year Ocho he didn't give him anything last year but here's the thing they also get let's just say they get a healthy Christian McCaffrey back now it's going to be interesting to see how healthy Brandon Ayuk is and how soon because sometimes Ocho it's the year after it's the it's the following year not the not the season right after the surgery, it's the year after. Right. So, we'll see how soon. But, you know, hey, they still got an outstanding offensive line. Big Trent, let's see how healthy he is. Can he get back to being Trent Williams? Kittle is still a top tight end in the league.
28:35Absolutely. Purdy. Now, they did lose some guys. Drake Greenlaw, Ward. They lost some guys. Hafanga. They've lost some guys on the defensive side, but Robert Sala is back. That defense wasn't the same without Robert Sala. Hey, did they ever fix receiver, Jawan Jennings? No, I haven't heard anything else about it. I haven't heard anything else about it. Yeah, he's nice. For the work he put in and stepping up when Ayuk went down and when Debo was hurt and injured, he made some really good plays in the game. made sure they didn't miss a beat offensively. I hope we reward him before the season starts.
29:20Yeah, it's kind of like the situation that Cam Hayward is in. Because remember, they tore up Cam Hayward, gave him a two-year deal, and then he played well and said, well, I can't see myself playing on this number because other guys, he saw other defensive players get pay raises. Get their money. sometimes the worst thing you can do is base your worth on what somebody else got. Ooh, that's a good thing. I like that. Oh, I don't know. They used to do it. I don't know if they still did it when, when you were there. You remember, they used to pass the thing around, the sheet around all the receivers.
30:00They had all the highest paid because you're receiving. So you saw what everybody else made. Plus you got all the guys on your own team. Plus every receiver, what they're making. oh man man that thing come out there hey I get that thing I be looking at somebody like you make that and you giving us that how about them boys tonight boy y 'all defense steals some trash wait a minute wait a minute now let's not do that now we look very bad on the first two's ride that the commanders had the ball they took their starters out but we look better from that point on let's be optimistic Let's be optimistic about the situation.
30:43Ocho, did you see how they ran down the field on y 'all? Yeah. I can tell you who blew the assignment. I can tell you who blew the assignment. Who blew the assignment? The Mike Backer. He didn't scrape over the top? He went underneath? He didn't scrape it underneath. You know you can't get there underneath? He tried to shoot the gap, huh? He tried to pull a Ray Lewis on him. What are we doing? What are we doing? And they did it twice. They did it twice. And the guy bounced right outside, and he gone. We had a conversation last night. I said, Ocho, I want to see their backs, and it'll give us a better understanding why Brian Robinson Jr.
31:17is on the trade block. Well, we see why he's on the trade block. We saw those two backs from Washington. Now it makes sense. I don't know how much you could speak for yourself, but it makes a ton of sense to me. It does make sense, but obviously, Brian Robinson, we've seen what he can do, and I just saw some reports, obviously, doing my little homework, talking about he runs a little bit timid, not hitting the hole. and just stuff like that. I'm not sure if the injury history is probably a cause of that, but obviously they like the young Bulls, especially Bill. He doesn't want to be called Jacob.
31:49His name is Bill. Bill. Bill. Hold on. You got three. Yeah. Rodriguez? No, no, the other one. Oh, Kosky. Because what's his full name? The one that Jay Daniels got the ball back for? Yeah, yes, sir. Yes, sir. If he said he wanted to be called Bill, I'm going to call him Bill. Okay. I mean, 30 rushing attempts, Ocho, for 185 yards and two touchdowns. I mean, you look at it, the two top guys, 17 rushes between the two of them for 108 yards. And y 'all got to look. Lovu, everybody in the stadium, everybody at home knew the Bengals were not going to snap that ball at the 38-yard line on fourth and three.
32:39except you. Yeah. And you jumped off sides.
32:45Everybody, nobody, when they start doing all that motion, when they bring the guy outside, they bring him to the backfield, then they sprint him out there. They're not running no play, bro. They're trying to get you to jump off sides, and you did it. Yeah. I get, Ocho, we get the Eagles last year. Remember on the goal line, and he jumped off sides like five times, four or five times in a row. and the officials say, you know, if you keep doing this, we're just going to award them to score. Okay, fine. They're going to score anyway. But in a situation like this, these kind of plays will get you beat.
33:22Guess what happened, Ocho? Didn't they go right down the field and score a touchdown? Yes, we did. Yes, we did. I want to talk about how good our offense looked, except that second series. That second series with Joe Burrow and the number twos. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why he did that. Joe know better. He pulled back all the running and scramming. Yeah, throw that thing away, Joe, because you don't want to take any unnecessary hits. Unnecessary punishment, yeah. And then he got bailed out again because O 'Brown got beat. And Wise just happened to horse call him. They're going to have to do a better job of protecting Joe.
33:53But Ocho, your offense has to look good because that's where all your money is. So wherever your money is, that's the side of the football you're really going to have to win on. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. In the Broncos, when we played in the 90s, T.D., myself, John, Zim, Rod. Yeah. So that's where the money was. So that's where we had to be. That's where we had to be. Yeah. So, yeah, I thought your offense, you know, Joe was, I mean, Joe was what? 9 of 14, 62 yards. Jake Browning came in. But Jake Browning, you know, he plays well. When asked and given the opportunity, Ocho, he plays well.
34:3116-25, 159, two touchdowns. Desmond Ritter came in there, threw one pass. He was one-on-one for seven yards.
34:41And they were going down the field again, and then Josh Johnson threw a horrible interception. Yeah. Oh, Josh. Boy, that's my dog there, man. Good to see Josh still out there, man, working and working and working. Yeah, yeah. Hey, he don't – I mean, hey, he don't collect – He collect his own jerseys. And he ain't got no other player. He ain't got no other player's jerseys. You know, you trade jerseys, don't you? Hey, I just collect my own. He got my 14. Mm-hmm. I think he's been on 16 of the 32 teams. 16 of the 32. Damn. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like it. So, hey, so if he ever want to coach, he know somebody.
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38:44All right, guys. Joining us in the chat right now is the New York Giants running back. last season as a rookie. He ran 192 times, 839 yards, five TDs, and he's back. Tyrone Tracy Jr. What's up, bro? What's good, man? How you doing? Man, I'm doing great, man. How are you? I'm good. I'm going to call you TT. I'm going to call you TT because I feel like... I appreciate that, man. That's what they call you? You want to be called TT? TT, Trace, TTJ, you know, you can call me too, man. Don't call me Tracy. Don't call me Tracy. I can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I wouldn't do that. So, I have a question.
39:23First off, my first question is, how with training camp going so far? How are your legs holding up and have you hit that ball yet? Have you hit that training camp ball yet? Yeah, I mean, Dave's been taking care of us, to be honest. He's been doing a good job making sure that we putting it in work, but then also giving us a bone here and there and making sure off days, we taking care of the recovery aspect of everything. But I'm good. You know, camp been good. Everything's been good. The vibes in the locker room is high. You got new faces in the locker room. So everything's been smooth. Yeah. So, hold on.
39:58Hold on. Go ahead, Ocho. I'm feeling good tonight. I'm fine for the talk. But listen, I got one more question. Your rookie season. Yeah. Your long season. Five touchdowns, 900-some yards on whatever, however many carries it was. I know you set goals for yourself. You had goals. But obviously, as players going into a season, you had personal goals as well. So what will your goals be if it's OK with you sharing it with us at night? Yeah. Your personal goals for this season? Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you. So my personal goals, first and foremost, you got to win. I feel like if you don't win, nothing else matters.
40:30But obviously, I want to do way better than I did last year. Last year was really just, you know, obviously my first year in the league. Welcome to the league, all that stuff. But now I feel more confident. I feel like, you know, I got the energy behind me, but I also got, you know, the trust behind me as well from the coaching staff and my teammates to go out there and play well. I want, you know, 1 ,500 yards. I want 10 tuts. And, like, I want to be, you know, one of the running backs that people talk about. Like, this is the stuff I pray for. You know what I'm saying? I feel like for me to say it in front of you guys, but then also, like, you know, say it to myself each and every day, you know, that's something that you need to say, you know, the power of life and death lies within the tongue.
41:12So I got to continue to speak life into my situation for each and every person I'm around. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that's that's how that's how I'm that's how I'm moving right now. Like speaking into existence. We were just talking about practice fights when you have, you know, scrimmages, joint joint practice scrimmages. You know, there's a little scuffle yesterday. Well, what what what popped up with you and Will McDonough? they know we pop off man y 'all y 'all been there y 'all yeah i can't get you know it's hot competition yeah you know it's the best against the best you you know i'm saying i had a good little run he was just finishing the play and my offensive line didn't like that right you know i'm saying so that's that's really what happened you know he he threw me to the ground my offensive line didn't like they had my back yeah it really wasn't nothing it wasn't nothing crazy man you know we don't we've seen worse you know y 'all probably seen worse too yeah hey let me ask you this oh go ahead go ahead brian because i was just talking okay we when you have a joint practice okay coaches go overlook nine on seven it's gonna be solid thuds we're not taking anybody to the ground but there's gonna be some thudding going on okay and seven a and a and team they're not gonna take you to the ground but it's gonna be some collisions so just expect it so you go in with a mindset, okay, this is what it's going to be.
42:34X, Y, and Z. I'm good with it. I'm prepared. It's when you do something extra. It's what because your coach had a conversation with our coach. And this is what they agreed to. Now, when you step outside of that scope, I got to check you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's exactly what happened, to be honest with you. Yeah, they told me, like Coach Dave came to me personally. He was like, yo, like, we know it's tag off, but just be prepared in between the tackle box. Yeah, to hit you. So I'm like, okay, okay, cool. Like, you know, I'm cool with that. Like, in between the talk about, you know, that's 10 yards, you know what I'm saying?
43:09They gonna hit you. Okay, cool. But this happened, you know, I'm about to go score. You know, we 15 yards down the line of scrimmage. Like, I'm running. So that's really why, you know, the scuffling started just because, like, that wasn't the rules. The rules is in between the line of scrimmage, boom, you get 15 yards, you can hit. But other than that, like, Let me finish my run because I'm just trying to do my job, you know what I'm saying, finish off a run. But, you know, like I said, man, we just – people had my back and they didn't like that. That's all. Yeah, that's dope. Hey, Jackson Dart.
43:45Oh, yeah. I knew you was going there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew one of y 'all was going to go there, but I knew one of y 'all was going to go there. Listen, listen. I'm asking – my question is Malik Nabors having a very, very, very good year last year. And I view him, and Malik Nabors has the talent to be in the top five conversation. We talk about receivers in the NFL. Yeah. How is Jackson Dart looking so far as far as being able to understand the offense, being in command of the offense, and understanding this is a chance that I can be the future for the next decade for this team? Yeah. Did you watch that last game?
44:21Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, there were three quarterbacks that looked really good because we didn't know what we were going to get from them. Jackson Dart was one of them. The other, George Sanders, and there was one more. Jameis played. All four of them played. Russell started it. He kicked it off to Jameis, then Dart, and then the other guy finished it up. Yeah, but the small sympathize we saw from Jackson Dart, it looked good. He looked very calm. He looked very good, very calm. Most of the time, rookie quarterbacks, when that pressure in those lights are on, they get happy feet.
44:53They rattled. You know, their technique is like, they just, they rushed the ball. But he looked really good. Nah, he did. I mean, to be honest with you, it ain't really nothing crazy. You know, he did out there. He do that stuff every day in practice, to be honest with you. Like, that's just how all the good players that you're around, the great players you're around, they all do that stuff every single day. So it's not like a surprise when they do it on Sundays or Saturdays or whatever. So, like, yeah, I mean, I feel like he's going, he has the potential to be a really good quarterback. that he's taken everything to his game to another level, to be honest.
45:32When he first got there, obviously, it's a lot of information going in. But now, like, you can see that he's settled down. Diled in? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. He dialed in now. Like, you can see some of that college Jackson Dart come out of him because of how calm and relaxed he is in the game. And, like, he's just out there hooping now. He ain't thinking. He's just out there playing. That's the funny thing. When you get to a point, regardless of what position you play, receiver, running back, especially the quarterback position, because you have so much on your plate and at the table coming to the line of scrimmage.
46:03But when you know everything and what everybody's doing around you and you're comfortable and you add comfortability with confidence, it's a done deal. The game starts to slow down to you. And when the game starts to slow down to you, you start to look like some of the better quarterbacks in the NFL that do it consistently, which is key, week to week. I got one more question. John, before you go. I'm feeling good. Hey, man. I got questions for y 'all too. Please tell me, what is it like to be around Jameis crazy-ass Winston in the locker room? I just need one good Jameis Winston story, please.
46:35Hey, he's funny, man. Have y 'all been around him? Yeah. For short spurts in New Orleans, you know. But every day, no. That would be a joy. I ain't going to lie like, what y 'all see online and on Instagram and all these clips y 'all see he really like that like i promise you i promise you like i have a million stories like i've only known a man for about five months now right right he does crazy stuff every day like every day like he does something crazy like i'm i'll tell you this one story um we had a ufc fighter um come to our practice and she gave him some gloves right like, signed him and everything.
47:18Jameis comes in a locker room and starts, like, doing UFC, like, kicks and fights with the gloves on. Like, he's really trying to fight people in the locker room. Like, he's showing us his kicks and everything. Like, I promise you, like, he is, like, I thought I was an outgoing person until, like, I met him. Like, he's, like, literally one of one. Like, he's a great, great person. He's, like, he's a very down-to-earth guy. Yeah, cool as hell. that's dope yeah that's kind of where i was going because i wanted to know the difference between the the personality between russ and and because if you look at them the personalities are very very different but they're both very religious men um seem to be very uh approach their business go about the work the task at hand and get the job done what would you say with it would be the biggest differences between russ uh personality and jamis's personality that's a good question I would probably say Jameis goes about his business More Fluid I guess you can say Russ is more like Not really strict but he just has a certain Way of doing things Jameis is more like Goofy It's business but he also understands That you have to have fun While doing it You have to have fun while doing it Don't get me wrong Russ has fun but like Russ is like on a certain path.
48:46Like he, he does stuff a certain way. And like, I don't know how to explain it. He's like, he's not strict. He's not strict, but he expects things to look a certain way. Very disciplined. Very structured. Yes. If I was, if I was to give an analogy in, in comparison to, to the two, it's like watching fresh prints and watching Will Smith and watching Carlton. Yes. Yeah. That, that's, I see Russell Wilson as Carlton in a sense, very serious, very business oriented. You know, you can have fun when necessary. And I see Jameis Winston as Will Smith in the character comparison to the two. Yeah, don't get me wrong.
49:22They both are cool, like regardless of the situation. But like I said, Jameis is more goofy. Like he's there to like, he's always going to make you laugh, make you feel good. Like even when things are like very tense, he cracks a joke. So like you feel good. Yeah, he breaks the ice. so no one feels like the coach is getting after you or whatever. He makes sure that you understand that at the end of the day, coaches are going to get after you, but you got to move on. The next play is coming up, so just continue to move on. Russ is the same way. Russ is very, like I said, he's strict, but he has a certain way of doing things, very disciplined.
50:03First one in, last one out, every single day he has his routine of what he does, and that's just who Russ is. And if you've been around him, he handles himself, like, professional, like, every single day. So, yeah, they're both very good leaders. Like you said, both very religious men. Like, I really can't say enough good things about each of them. Yeah, that's dope. You guys finished dead last in red zone touchdown percentage. You scored the second fewest points in the red zone. That was a little harsh. I mean, dang. You guys finished last in red zone. Well, y 'all finished second worst in points scored.
50:36So, I mean, you wasn't dead last. The other one, you were last. All right, all right. You know. Make it short. But, okay, when you come back on next year, what are you going to do different to make sure you're not in this same spot again? Man, to be honest with you, when we get down there, we got to score. Three points is not enough. Kick your field goals, get your beat. Yeah, in this league, three points ain't enough. We got to score tuss. And I think that really starts with the O-line. Obviously, protecting the quarterback. Quarterback, you got to do your job. Make better decisions. get the ball to your playmakers running back receivers tight ends get them the ball I think that's the easiest thing in the game get the ball to your playmaker let them go to work and when your playmakers go to work it makes the whole game easy where you come in at?
51:24I didn't hear you mention TT you ain't a playmaker you say run the ball? oh you want to run the ball? we're going to run the ball we're going to turn around and hand it to you you got to put yourself in that description as a playmaker. Because you know what you could be? Hell, you could be the goddamn security blanket. You could be. You want to be one of the better running backs in the league, right? So you want to know when they game plan and they come into a game, well, goddamn, we got to worry about two people. We got to worry about Malik Navels or we got to worry about TT. You come in defenses, you in the backfield, first or second down, all right, we got to drop the safety down in the goddamn box.
52:03They can't do that, though. They dropped the safety down, we're going to throw it over top. Boom. Boom. So if Malik on off, boom, now we got to go too high. Yeah. It's time to work. And now you got to run them out of that too high. Exactly. But that's what I'm saying. Like, when you get the ball to your playmakers, it makes a lot of things easy. Especially for offensive coordinator. We got a lot of good dudes in your locker room, and they all want to win. Obviously, you got your personal stuff that you want to do. But, like, if you all just want to win, like, it makes a lot of stuff easy. because it's easier when you're winning.
52:36When you're losing, it's hard, man. Last year, it was hard last year just because obviously you're losing and we're trying to figure out why we're losing and then you've got a whole bunch of stuff going on. So it was hard, but it's way easier when you win. It's fun. It's fun to be around people, fun to be around coaches, fun to be in the locker room, everything. Fun to be out and about in the city. Yeah. Yeah. Being able to show you, especially, listen, you're playing in the biggest market. You're playing in the biggest market in the world, and when you're winning in that market, oh, the newspapers are a joy to watch.
53:11The headlines are a joy to read. When you lose them, everything is magnified. You don't want to show your face. You don't want to deal with the fans. It's in a market of that magnitude. So, man, listen, I'm hoping y 'all do very, very well. I will. Well, hey, the division you guys are in, it ain't no slap. Oh, yeah. No, it ain't no slap. We ain't no slap either, though. We ain't no slap either, though. Believe that. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm looking for right now. Okay. Okay. Come on, bro. Hey, KT, have you always been a running back? Did you play any other position?
53:46Yeah. I was going to say that earlier. Yeah. I was a receiver, too, my whole career, my whole college career. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I turned switched positions my last year. Because of Coach C. He's the running back coach at Purdue. Okay. Yeah. He came in from Miami of Ohio. He looked at me and he was like, yeah, you're going to be a running back. And I've known Coach C for, like, my entire life. Like, I've known him since I was, like, 15 years old. But I wanted to be a receiver. You know, I was watching you, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? I was watching your fan. I was watching Tavon Austin. Like, I was watching all these cats, you know, go crazy.
54:24you know with the because I was about what five I was about 5 '10", 180 you know I was a slot receiver um and then once I got to college I gained some weight got to about 200 pounds right and they was like yeah you're gonna be a running back yeah so everything if you look at hold on let me say this real quick real quick if you look at everything like from all my my stat line from my measurements you know I'm saying like I was an average I was an average receiver but then like you switch it to running back, you know, now I'm running a, you know, four, four, seven. That's, that's a fast running back.
55:01I got good hands. I can run good routes because I was a receiver. So that you get everything that, you know, you compare it to the league today. Now that's, that's God, God really made all that happen. Like I went through all that, that struggle and that frustration, irritation. And then next thing you know, like all the blessings came out, you know, in 2025, it was, it was crazy. Well, listen, now that you just said that, you just woke me up a little bit. And I want you to understand the importance of not only playing receiver one point, but now playing running back. You understand? That's two things you can do very well.
55:36Because now you don't got to come out on third down. You don't have to come out on third down. So that puts you in the same category. You can get to this in year two and continue to improve on it. But Christian McCaffrey, great running back. What else can you do about the backfield? Catch. Catch. LaDainian Tomlinson. out the backfield and catch. So that makes you a three-down back and that adds value. You know what happens when you add value and another dynamic to your game that they can't take away from you? It also adds dollars. It makes money. Okay, stay with me now. The more you can do. Well, since you're a running back aficionado now, give me your top five running backs of all time.
56:18Oh, of all time? All time. Of all time. Okay. Herschel Walker. What you know about Big Dog? Come on now. I used to watch this film. I ain't going to lie. I used to watch this film. You were held in college, man. Oh, yeah. I'm going to go with – man, I ain't going to lie. There's some dogs. Yeah. There's some dogs. We can talk about running backs. Emmitt Smith. Got to put him in there. is this like rankings? No, just your top five. Just your top five. This is yours. Your main ranking. Yeah, it's your preference. LT, Dan Thompson. I love his game. I love how smooth he was. And I'm going to put Otis Anderson in there only because I've watched this film personally and And I've seen – obviously, I play for the Giants, but I've also watched this film personally.
57:26I like the way he play. He's a big bruising back. He put that wine up on you. Mershawn Lynch. Mershawn Lynch. Hey, hey, hey. B. Beast Mode. Yeah, Beast Mode. You got to put Beast Mode. I was at four. And then my last one.
57:44I'm going to go Bo. Big Bo. Jackson? Yeah. Okay, okay. That's a good one. That's five or six. I think he might have added one. I had one. I think you did. I don't think I did. That was five, huh? That was five. Yeah, he can't. You know, he getting old. He can't. I don't know. Nah. You had Hershel Walker. You had Emmitt Smith. LaDainian Tomlinson. Who else he had? Bo Jackson. Boris Anderson. And Bo Jackson. And Bo Jackson. That's five. You right. You got five. Oh, man. You just named guys. You just named guys that I saw and you didn't see. Yeah. I was surprised I thought you would go a little bit more modern Man, Poe Barry Man, I ain't never seen somebody leave Barry Sanders off their list So I was going to put Barry and I put Emin in there But That just made me personally This is my personal preference Hey, matter of fact You know who my favorite running backs are?
58:45All the time It's not the favorites and I'm not talking about all time I'm talking about running styles. I like running backs in general, but I like runners that are very smooth with no herky-jerky movements. It's just they get the ball, and they just glide as they run. Arian Foster. Yeah, you got, hey, what about Marshawn Lynch? Is he a running back? Oh, that was six. A young man that can't remember. Damn, how you remember your plays? I did say that. I did say that. You did say that, yeah. I did say that. Who told you? I know you got a wristband like a quarterback. Your producer told you that.
59:19nah hey hey Ocho I ain't never feed a running back like the quarterback like oh okay that's the play we running right there no 14 okay that's me hey I ain't get my my three smoothest running backs of all time based on who you got running style running style okay four I'm gonna go with Eric Dickinson first okay just pretty Arian Foster okay I know you've seen Arian Foster run yeah got damn Priest Holmes the Priest Priest Holmes and Amon Green That's a new one. The Priest and Greenies, that's a new one. Hey, Unk, them dudes ran so smooth, and it's like they was gliding. And, like, you know how you see some running back, he's like, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh.
1:00:01Yeah, strong. They run strong. Yeah, strong, dog. Them four I just named right there, man, it was beautiful. I played with Priest one year. It was last year in Baltimore. I played with the Priest. Yeah, man. Amon Green, too. Oh, my goodness. Well, you know, in that West Coast system, you're downhill. in the west coast system if you look at the backs of arian foster he was in the west coast system okay uh you look at those guys like that uh terrell davis it's one cut downhill it ain't a whole lot ain't a whole lot of dancing moving yeah hey say that for friday night when you're at the club but come sunday when you're on the field ain't no dancing get your ass downhill Right, right.
1:00:46So what can we expect from TT? So you said 1 ,500, 10 tubs, Pro Bowl? I mean, hey, ain't the Pro Bowl like a fan vote? It's fans, coaches, and players. Ain't that a fan vote? The fans vote count the most. I think it's 50%, and then players and coaches count 25%. I'm just asking, you know, you can get all these accolades and stuff, but, like, you know, I feel like that's fan vote. I think once you crack at one time, and especially for you, it would be much easier because of the market you play in. You know, the product sells itself based on where you're playing. So if you even get close to the numbers that you're talking about getting as far as your goals for this season, you would definitely make it.
1:01:35And then once you're in, most of the time they think, oh, it's a popular vote, regardless of whether the fans pick it or not. Yeah. Consistently go if you maintain the weekend from a stats perspective. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. But, yeah, that's definitely on my list for sure. Where can the chat find you on social media? Where are you on eggs? Where are you on IG? Oh, sure. On X or Twitter X, it was just Tyrone Tracy. And then on Instagram, I am underscore TTJXI. Both of y 'all, baby, I need y 'all to follow me too. Hey, wait, I got one more question too before you go. How do you feel about your Madden rating and do I need to change anything?
1:02:26I think I'm at like a, I think I'm at 79, I think. What? A 79? Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm not positive. In your rookie year, you might have been a 79. Based on what you did last year, I'm sure it's moving up further than the 79. So if it's not higher than a 79, I need to contact you while I'm hearing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just let me know. Just let me know. Nah, contact us after the first month of the season. Don't contact us after the first game. After the first month of the season, contact us. First month? Okay, first month. I got you. Thank you.
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