BEST OF NFL Preseason Week 3 Part 2: Jaxson Dart Ready to Start?! + Packers DL Rashan Gary joins the show

27 Aug 2025 · 50 min · 23 chapters

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In short

Best-of NFL preseason Week 3 (Part 2) discussion, centered on rookie QB Jaxson Dart’s preseason performance and what it means for the Giants’ QB competition, plus NFL insider/reporting talk and roster/injury-settlement rules. Later, the show interviews Packers Pro Bowler Rashan Gary about camp health, defensive goals, and the Week 1 matchup vs the Lions.

Guests (backgrounds)

Rashan Gary, Green Bay Packers defensive lineman, Pro Bowler; described as entering year seven and ranked #80 on the NFL Top 100 (after being #50 last year). Other voices are the hosts (including “Ocho” and “Uncle”), former NFL players/commentators, discussing league reporting and roster decisions.

Key claims

  • Dart’s preseason stat line (32/47, 372 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT) suggests he could start sooner than expected if Russell Wilson doesn’t perform.
  • Injury reporting leaks could be strategic, but injured players can’t simply be traded; injury settlements are discussed.
  • Packers defense should stay consistent by everyone doing their “111” and staying on the same page.

Notable examples

  • Preseason QB comparisons: Tommy DeVito (17–20, 93 yards, 3 TD) vs Dart; Jameis Winston (4–8, 47 yards).
  • Packers Week 1 vs Lions; Gary cites OTAs/camp communication and joint-practice understanding of offensive attacks.
  • Gary’s pass-rush “toolbox” idea: multiple moves, reacting to the offensive lineman, with emphasis on third-down impact.

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Mike Vrabel on Jalen Holtz Injury

2:11 to 4:52

Discussion on the implications of Jalen Holtz's season-ending injury.

“Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel was asking about a comment on Jalen Holtz will require season injury shoulder surgery.”

The Role of Sources in NFL Reporting

4:52 to 7:20

Exploration of how information leaks occur in the NFL and fan reactions.

“The shield in the NFL is one that will remind people in any way, shape, form, or fashion, nothing will be bigger than our program.”

Understanding Injury Settlements in Football

7:20 to 10:01

Insight into the rules and implications of injury settlements in the NFL.

“there's people working for you and you don't even know it mmhmm well you don't even know it you don't burn no bridges you can't Everybody talking about do this and do that and I did this and I did that.”

Reflections on a Celebrity Basketball Game

10:01 to 12:29

Light-hearted recount of a celebrity basketball game performance.

“I didn't expect for you to score 30, but I expected at least a double-double.”

Joe's Basketball Journey

12:29 to 14:01

Joe shares his experience and learning process in basketball.

“Y 'all put me talking about the comedian.”

Getting into Basketball

14:01 to 18:01

Learn about the host's journey into basketball and its complexities.

“Watching the game, understanding the game, understanding the plays and just the screens and just all that three-level score, everything, Joe.”

Getting into Basketball

18:58 to 20:20

Learn about the host's journey into basketball and its complexities.

“Choosing On Plus nicotine pouches over rough corners and edges.”

Jackson Dart's Preseason Performance

20:33 to 24:58

Discussing Jackson Dart's impressive performance during the preseason.

“I don't think there's much pressure on Russell Wilson.”

The Challenges Ahead for Rookies

24:58 to 28:00

Understanding the tougher realities rookies face in the NFL regular season.

“it's a different ball game it is, it is, it absolutely is the intensity picks up the urgency picks up The coaches, all that, hey, the coaches, they're explaining things to you in a nice, calm tone.”

NFL Preseason Insights and Player Cuts

28:00 to 36:22

Explore the emotional realities of NFL players facing cuts during preseason.

“I'm just out there like, what the hell are they doing?”
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NFL Preseason Insights and Player Cuts

37:20 to 38:42

Explore the emotional realities of NFL players facing cuts during preseason.

“It's not what you see, it's what you feel.”

Interview with Rashan Gary

38:47 to 42:00

Join Rashan Gary as he discusses his health, expectations, and team dynamics for the upcoming NFL season.

“All right, joining us on the show now, we'll welcome in Pro Bowler.”

Defensive Strategy and Team Goals

42:00 to 43:12

Learn about the defensive strategies and personal goals of a player gearing up for the season.

“tight end, your thought process going into it early so far, what is it that you think you guys need to do to win that game come week one from a defensive standpoint?”

Leadership Evolution in Green Bay

43:12 to 44:36

Discover how leadership styles evolve when transitioning into veteran roles within a sports team.

“Can you share with us, you know, whatever it may be?”

Life in Green Bay and Team Mindset

44:36 to 46:08

Explore what it's like to live in Green Bay and the mindset required to succeed as a Packer.

“Yeah, you know, everybody's background, you know, why everybody's in it.”

Reflections on Career and Regret

46:08 to 47:56

Reflect on the importance of living with no regrets throughout a sports career and maintaining focus.

“Is there a play that you replay, if there's almost sack, if there's almost a ball that was on the ground, that damn, if I could have just got this one, it would have helped.”

Inspiration from Other Players

47:56 to 49:12

Learn about the players Rashawn Gary looks up to and how he incorporates their techniques into his game.

“I walk away with my head held high knowing I couldn't have got anything else out of the talent that God blessed me with.”

Pass Rush Techniques and Strategies

49:12 to 53:44

Dive into the intricacies of pass rushing and the mental game behind approaching a quarterback.

“Let me ask you this, because Ocho and I was talking and how we approach the game of football, how we approach as a wide receiver.”

Building a Legacy Through Sports Agency

53:44 to 54:36

Discover the motivations behind starting a sports agency and the desire to leave a legacy.

“It's only going to get bigger and bigger and keep growing and growing.”

Communication and Team Dynamics

54:36 to 56:01

Understand how players communicate on the field and work to improve each other's performance.

“Hey, Rashawn, you do realize that division you're in.”

Rashan Gary Discusses Team Communication

56:01 to 57:24

Learn about the importance of communication and teamwork from NFL player Rashan Gary.

“I can tell how you're trying to set me up.”

Rashan Gary Discusses Team Communication

58:29 to 59:06

Learn about the importance of communication and teamwork from NFL player Rashan Gary.

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Rashan Gary Discusses Team Communication

59:11 to 59:39

Learn about the importance of communication and teamwork from NFL player Rashan Gary.

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2:02Shannon Sharpe:Available in select areas. Terms apply. Visit Amazon.com slash Prime to find millions of items delivered fast. Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel was asking about a comment on Jalen Holtz will require season injury shoulder surgery. Let's listen to what Vrabel's response was.

2:27Shannon Sharpe:I'm looking forward to today that Jalen Pope will have to have season-ending shoulder surgery. Can you add anything to that? No. I don't know. Other than I'd like to find out where some of these come from. You know, some of these rats around here. So we'll figure that out.

2:46You see, hey, now we see everybody.

2:50Shannon Sharpe:Who said that? Who said that? They don't just be making this stuff up. I know y 'all be trying to name your sores. name your source name your source jordan nah they don't make that up so right owners head coaches general managers player personnel position coaches players that's how adam shepter stay in business that's how shams stay in business the agents that's how they get that information y 'all get mad y 'all y 'all get mad y 'all don't get mad at the people for telling them Y 'all get mad at Schefter and Sean for reporting it. Oh, the first thing they always say, especially the fans, state your source.

3:33State your source. Well, who said it? Well, duh, if they stated a source, they would never be able to get information. No, you're done.

3:40Shannon Sharpe:So just go ahead and turn your pen and say, hey, ESPN, I'm done. I'm no longer in business of doing that. Yeah. You heard what he said. So now, Chad, ain't nothing wrong with it. Now you heard what he said. He would like to know who the rat is. So somebody told a reporter because the reporter stood up there point blank and asked him about season-ending shoulder surgery. That he should know about. The reporter should know about that. As a matter of fact, they'd be reporting. Now, I'm not saying that someone, but like when Sheffton and I be coming nine times out of 10, Ocho, oh, they got that from somewhere.

4:19Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. They got that from somewhere. A close source. Yes. People around the league. No, people in the league. Ain't no round no league. They ain't around it. They in it. Somebody talking. Sources in the NFL. The league office. That's just the way it works. You know what's funny, too, Uncle? I was reading some comments about some of the stuff we talked about last night with the Shadour. I'm not going back on the Shadour thing right now. I'm just saying, Jenna. And some of the comments throughout today. of people on my timeline reacting to what we're saying and what ed said what eric said and people like oh that's impossible why would the nfl care i mean what this i mean they come up with all these different solutions in and it goes back to me and people underestimating how powerful the nfl is in general how they just see it as just a football game and how they don't understand that the shield is one that remind people.

5:24Let me say this again slowly. The shield in the NFL is one that will remind people in any way, shape, form, or fashion, nothing will be bigger than our program. Absolutely. Nothing will be bigger than our program. people that is so blind to it and don't understand the power that those individuals as a whole possess it's ridiculous even when I was playing huh let me let me hey Joe let me tell you let me tell you something Joe huh even when I was playing I understood the power that be of the shield so I understood I know I can play a little bit

6:05Shannon Sharpe:but not too much Joe huh I knew I could play around a little bit Pat, y 'all stay with me. But I understood what lines not to cross. Unc, I understood the game very early. I understood my time in the NFL. It won't be that long. I have a small window of opportunity to have some fun, to make some money. But there are certain lines that cannot cross, but at some point in the long run, I'm going to have to cross that bridge again. Call it in between the lines, Ocho. Call it in between the lines. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe. Joe, listen. Joe, let me tell you something. How well I'm at at playing the game, huh?

6:48And Joe, I can say to chat, stay with me real quick. Some of the things I've got going on right now, all these goddamn jobs and all these goddamn opportunities, there are certain buttons that are being pushed behind closed doors.

7:01Shannon Sharpe:That you can't see. That's a loud... Joe, come on, Joe. there's certain buttons being pushed behind closed doors man come on man no no no I feel you don't make the start tonight I understand man listen I understand about the buttons being pushed behind closed doors there's people working for you and you don't even know it mmhmm well you don't even know it you don't burn no bridges you can't Everybody talking about do this and do that and I did this and I did that. Yeah. Okay. You leave like you came. You came with your dignity. You leave. All that yelling and screaming. Hey, well, nobody was harmed in the making of that movie.

7:48Shannon Sharpe:But at the end of the day, there's been speculation that Pope was going to be cut or trade candidate with all 32 teams needing a set 53-man roster by 4 Eastern on August the 26th. who would benefit from leaking injury of a player more than the player himself who may not want to be leave or traded? Well, you can't trade a player if he's cut. I mean, if he's injured, you have to offer him an injury settlement. So he's straight. So they can't trade him. No, you can't cut an injury. You have to offer him an injury settlement. Right. I know you can't do it in basketball, but I ain't know how football works.

8:29But we've seen players get injured. I could have swore I saw stuff where players have gotten injured, they get cut right away, especially in training camp. I could have swore I saw that. Oh, okay, okay. Well, at least the reports could say a settlement was received instead of a player was cut. Yeah. Okay, okay.

8:47Shannon Sharpe:You get an injured settlement. Hey, I have a question. Is there a certain amount, a set amount for injured settlement? I guess however long it's going to – I mean, that's something the agent it would be we'd work out probably the length of time if it's gone for the season. You're like, right. No, I want my money. But maybe what a million. I think he's like a second year player, right? He's a second year player. So it was his eight hundred thousand, a million dollars. They're like, they probably they probably eat that old show. Yeah. Right. OK, OK, OK, OK. It's when you get into the situation like a Christian Wilkins, You getting guys making 13, 15, 20.

9:31Shannon Sharpe:Now it becomes a problem. Or in basketball, Joe, they do what they call a buyout. Okay, I'll give you 85%. I'll give you 90 % of your money. Right, right. They don't do that in football? Hell no. Hold on, they cut you. They say you're about your way. Yeah, they get you up out there. Unless you got to get like Russ. The Broncos cut Russ. they say okay they gave Russ all his money remember because is that normal yeah but no not a lot of people have that big guaranteed money yeah if you got guaranteed money you don't care Russ had 38 million 35, 36 million coming from the Broncos so it wasn't nothing to go take the 2 million from the Steelers I got 40 million I don't care how you div it out I got it coming but a lot of guys ain't got that guaranteed money

10:30so

10:31Shannon Sharpe:that's just you know football a gladiator sport man yeah you know every play could be damn near career ending play absolutely hey Joe that's why you gotta be built like this okay I see you been in the gym huh hey hey let me pick a bone with him real quick go ahead man Ocho I watched that celebrity game. Yo, Joe. Hold on. I was out there like, hold on, hold on. I didn't expect for you to score 30, but I expected at least a double-double. 10 points, 10 rebounds. Hey, Joe. Hey, listen to me, Joe. Listen to me, Joe. I really wasn't supposed to say this. I wasn't supposed to say this out loud, but I'm going to say it anyway.

11:15Hey, Hesigar, right? I seen it. Hesigar had a bet. He had a bet. Stay with me real quick, Joe. He had a bet, right, with Gilliam. Gilly was supposed to win MVP again I say Hesley well I'm going to shoot I'm going to just give you the ball you just go to work and do what you need to do I seen he was ultra aggressive I seen that did you see the first soon as he got the ball he had it on his mind

11:46Shannon Sharpe:he had to get it off his chest he didn't make every shot you probably the most athletic dude I was expecting you to get the rebound Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I probably am. But Joe. He got what he known for. He known for a double single. Nah, nah. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Joe, I did what I was supposed to do to make sure my team got my win. I was out there rebounding. Hey, I facilitate like magic. Ocho, you a Johnson, man. Hey, you a Johnson, boy. You hear me? Yeah, you supposed to go out there and show up and show out, all right? I got you. Hey, Joe. Joe, next year? they ain't inviting you back Ocho they did not invite you back oh no they definitely want to get me back hey listen you ain't never seen no defense like that I was out there hey I was like Pat Beverly and Bruce Bowen but anyhow I don't know Ocho Jose you had a double single I heard a triple double I ain't never heard of no double single hey hold on hey I did what I was supposed to do.

12:56I told you I was like Rodman out there. The comedian? Rodman? No, Rodman. Y 'all put me talking about the comedian. Hey, what's the dude that played for the Spurs that was really good at defense? Bruce Moore, right?

13:10Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Alvin Robertson was before him. Alvin Robertson? He don't know nothing about him. Was he good? He was outstanding. He got a quadruple double. He got a, yeah, he was good. He's a defensive player. Hell yeah, he was good. Hold on, hold on. He was like Gary Payton defense, like that kind of good? Right. Yeah, yeah, he was good. All right, all right, all right, all right. Joe, I know, Joe, I let you down. Joe, I got you, Joe. Joe, listen, just one game. Oh, you coming back next year? I'm coming back every year. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, Ocho, y 'all see the two teams in the championship game, right?

13:52Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. You before I made a joke with a 30-burger in the back pocket. Stop playing with me, y 'all. Come on now. Hey, Joe. What's up? Hey, I asked Uncle Question too, right? You know, Joe, I don't – let me chat. Y 'all stay with me real quick, chat. I am new to basketball, Joe. Watching the game, understanding the game, understanding the plays and just the screens and just all that three-level score, everything, Joe. I am soccer, football, tennis, boxing. I can see and talk about that for hours. So basketball being new to me in general. So being up close, my first game, Joe, in a long time was going to see last year, maybe the year before last, watching the Philly game, sitting courtside and watching Embiid go for seven.

14:44I don't know. Was that last year? You had that game? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was with Doug. So I went to that game. And before that, I went to a heat game maybe once every three years. So now I'm in the basketball. I ain't got no choice. I got to talk it. I got to watch it. And now I'm really getting into it. So I look at them boys play in the three on three. And I'm like, I came on the show that night with Uncle. I'm like, well, God damn, Uncle. How the hell Lance Stevenson ain't playing? How the hell Michael Beasley's not in the league? and so it's because it's new to me and me not understanding age that what I'm watching those dudes are really good but the people that's playing in NBA right now are that much better

15:33Shannon Sharpe:and when you're in the league there's a way in which you behave absolutely so basically hey Joe the boy was good Nah, they can play, Ocho. They can play. They can play. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, Lance Stevens played like a decade. He played like 10, 11 years. Yeah, he could. Yeah. Hey, Joe. That nigga Lance was taking people off the dribble. Man, Beasley, man, man. Yeah, you done seen them boys play. This is my first time seeing them up close. It's one thing, you know, TV. TV don't do no justice. TV don't do no justice. Why do 6 '9'' movement like that, man? What we doing? No, you know, them boys got some game, man.

16:18Shannon Sharpe:You know what? And it wouldn't have been so bad, Ojo, if you wouldn't have been on here hollering about you, if you were going to score 30 points. I think that's where a chat, if I ain't mistaken, I think that's where a chat was like, man, what Ojo talking about? He's going to score 30. So we was looking. We was looking for a flirt. No, you were looking. I was looking. I was hoping for two points. I said, if he just get on. I just wanted him on the scores. I just wanted him in the book. That's all. I was hoping for two points. But Joe, this is what you have to understand. when it come to me, Joe.

16:47You know me, and you know what I enjoy. You know what I love. You know what I'm passionate about. You know what I play consistently away from the game of football. You know, if it was a soccer game, I would have had 100 goals. If it was tennis, you know I play tennis. Come on, Joe. Don't do that. Don't do that. That's the one thing I can actually do better than goddamn football. Joe, I don't play basketball. That's why they be calling you Big Cap on Nightcap. oh yeah yeah when it comes to basketball that's fine not just basketball

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20:32Shannon Sharpe:Giants Ocho jump right into it the Giants beat the Patriots Jackson Dart shined in his rookie preseason his numbers across all three weeks he was 32 of 47 372 yards four total touchdowns zero interceptions Ocho I told you he's gonna be starting sooner than you think he's gonna learn one thing what is that? get your ass down them guys you try them guys heavy he's going to learn fast he's going to learn very fast you have to understand you say he's going to start sooner rather sooner than later and that's to say if Russell Wilson doesn't play well but I think Russell Wilson is going to be in great command of that offense especially with the weapons he has around him listen you put that ball in Uno's hands everything going to be fine Put that ball in one's hands, everything ain't going to be fine.

21:27I don't think there's much pressure on Russell Wilson. And if they're going to give him the job, I think Russell Wilson makes it through this season and Jackson Dart starts next year. You don't think so? No.

21:42Shannon Sharpe:Not the way this rookie played this preseason. And, Ocho, you see the way he moving the pocket? You see the throw that he's making? He's nice. He's nice. He is. And the one thing you and I are going to do, we're going to give credit where it's due now. If you play bad, we're going to say you play bad. But if you play good, we're going to say, hey, man, get your popcorn and watch this kid. I mean, his command of the offense, I mean, his ability to push the ball down the field, his ability, he's frambling. And then all of a sudden, he's like, oh, I forgot about my back. Wham! Throws it to the back.

22:13Shannon Sharpe:I said, you sure, boy, a rookie? Rookies don't normally play like that. He plays with a lot of points. He plays a big-time arm. He'll push the ball. I like guys that push the ball down the field. All that short fishing, you ain't going to catch no big fish around the edge. The big fish are out deep. Yeah, most of the time, especially for the rookies, you know, to get themselves in rhythm, get themselves in rhythm, they'll start short just to get that confidence going as opposed to taking a deep shot. I remember, I think, what was it, maybe last week. It might have been last week. It was third and short.

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22:48or maybe they went for it on four down and he threw the goddamn deep ball instead of throwing it short for a touchdown.

22:57Shannon Sharpe:And guess what, Ocho? Who else knows that you're a rookie that you're probably not going to push that ball downfield early and you're going to stay around the shore? D coordinators. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're telling the corner, they're telling the crowd. See it, yep. Because they thinking like you thinking. Yeah. Coach, first of all, Coach ain't going to call anything. He don't want to get too exotic. He want to let him warm up. We're going to let him throw a smoke, let him throw an aisle, let him throw a slant. Sit.

23:30Shannon Sharpe:Hey, itch. They're going to go get that ball. But no, I love what I've seen. I don't want to get, but I think Brian Dayball and that staff is very pleased with the production that Jackson Dart displayed in the preseason. How can you not? Four total touchdowns, no picks, basically clean look. Like you said, Ocho, I can teach you that, son. Get your ass down. Get down or get out of bounds. You got two choices. You can get down or you can get your ass out of bounds. One or the other. Or we're going to come put your ass on the car and you're going to go in the tent. Because you see what happened? What happened, Ocho?

24:09Shannon Sharpe:They came and got him, and they took his ass to the 10th. But listen, based on his play this preseason, Bengals – I'm talking about Bengals. I'm just thinking about it. Giants fan, Giants organization, his teammates, they have to be very pleased. Yeah, they are. We'll get this off from Jackson Dart. But also, I want to be very cautious now. Very cautious now. This is – you got to understand who he was going against. now when the regular season starts it's a different ball game out there it's not going to be sweet not going to be it's not going to be they're going to get ain't no vanilla they're going to get you a lot they're going to get you a lot of swirls you go to Baskin Robbins it ain't flavor, there's coverages you're going to get it ain't 31 flavors, there's 31 coverages it's a different ball game it is, it is, it absolutely is the intensity picks up the urgency picks up The coaches, all that, hey, the coaches, they're explaining things to you in a nice, calm tone.

25:13Shannon Sharpe:That is out the window. Hey, and as one of the coaches told me my rookie year, you know we still cut. If it just comes to the season, that don't mean you can't get cut. Sometimes guys relax on your, whoo, man, made it out of training camp. week one all the way through week 17 18 I've seen guys get cut in the post season damn in the post season well look here man we are hey well look here they don't play Ocho you know what it might have not have been the post season practice squad guy but obviously but I'm talking about big guys late in the season. Oh, man. That's tough. Mike Shanahan had that play.

26:09Shannon Sharpe:It wasn't no loafing. It wasn't no walking. When he said, hey, I don't know how y 'all did it, don't you? But when we changed drills, oh, you had to get a move on. Got a little pepper. Got to have a little pepper in your step, huh? Nobody walks but the mailman. That's why he doesn't make what you make. You run. to where you got to go. I like that. Okay. I like that. Okay. All right. Okay. Some people don't understand that. And that's no disrespect to the mailman. Hey, you guys do an unbelievable job. We appreciate your service. Although you don't kind of like with Amazon and all these other carriers.

26:53Shannon Sharpe:They put y 'all out of business. But this kid, Jackson Dart, Ocho. I like what I'm seeing. Now, I'm like you. I want to see him against a real competition. Hey, when you go, you got to make those alignments, those adjustments. Yeah. Defenses, I mean, linemen are stunning. Defense are disguised in what they really want to do. Yeah, yeah. You might think it's cover one. You might think it's cover three. And all of a sudden, it go to two. oh man it's so they go to quarter they go to seven they go to six they go to six kick they go to cover five they're fried yep clouding it yeah them juggles be out there banjoing it banjoing but I I'll be trying to let because that was way they be out there doing this right here that means they banjoing that means they're They're going to double somebody.

27:59Shannon Sharpe:I'm like, it never really dawned on me that what the six, you know, I'm just out there like, what the hell are they doing? Or, you know, you see them do that, locking it. Hey, so I just got a kick out of that when people say, hey, man, it don't matter. It don't matter if you know what they do. The hell you say? You let me know y 'all going to be a couple. Let me know y 'all going to be a quarter. a single high safety a six kick the hell you say

28:34Shannon Sharpe:bad please but Tommy DeVito Tommy DeVito 17 to 20 buck 93 three touchdowns Jackson Dart came in 6 to 12 81 yards a tub Jameis Winston came in 4-8 mop up 47 and a tub this might be the second team we talk about a team carrying four quarterbacks this might be another team that might carry forward. I don't think so, O 'China. Because you know why? Because who's the odd man out? Jameis is making$4 million. Russ is making good money. Russ is making how much money, Ash? $10,$15? See, it's not like Cleveland. Because what you call he's only making$5 million. Kenny Pickett's making what he's making and then you got two rookies.

29:20Shannon Sharpe:So what you're saying? What you're saying? Who's the odd man out then? oh so he got one year 10-5 which is probably as much as Flacco and Pickett making together and then you throw Jameis' 4 million a year because I think he did two years 9 million so 4.5 so you're looking at 15 million between two quarterbacks so who's that I don't think you think they keep Tommy well obviously you know they're not getting rid of Jackson Dark you think they keep Tommy DeVito or they release him and try to sign him back to the practice squad? Probably sign him back to the practice squad, but I see them doing the same thing that the Browns are probably going to do.

30:03For some reason, I just do. And then we talked about Jameis Winston. You heard personnel or was that the owner that came out and said, absolutely not, he's not going nowhere? I talked about Jameis Winston. You talking about Marry, John Marry? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-uh. Great locker room presence. Great team guy. Nah. I knew James wasn't going nowhere.

30:33Absolutely not.

30:38But 42-10, you don't want to go out on a note like that,

30:42Shannon Sharpe:but you know, Ocho, you and I, we talked about this early in this week.

30:47Shannon Sharpe:Unfortunately, a lot of kids' dreams. I say kids, they're old enough to be my kids. Old enough to be, they're young enough. Well, let me take that back. They're young enough to be our kids. I'm pretty sure I'm older than most of their moms and dads. But with that being said, a lot of these young men dreams come to an end tonight. Some will get an opportunity to go be on a practice squad somewhere else. Some might get an opportunity to go to Canada, play in the UFL. but for a lot of them, Mocho, the realization that this is over. Something I've been doing since I was seven, eight years old. Did it at the peewee level, did it at the JV level, high school level, college level.

31:30Shannon Sharpe:My dreams and aspirations did not come to fruition. That's tough. Because this is probably the first time, Mocho, that someone has told these young men, you're not good enough. think about it they've always been the best they were their best on their pop warner they were best on their flag football team their jv football team their high school basketball a football team their college and then it's a numbers game you're not good enough that's the that's the realization of ultra that's the realization of it i mean i I'm not trying to be Chad I'm not trying to be dramatic because I know what it's like to be on pins and needles that last game that last preseason game and your name is on the board to be released matter of fact my name was on the board to be released let me tell you let me tell you what about the last preseason game I'm talking about when we were playing the last preseason game I remember I would be walking in and the person who did the cutting and letting players know as they come in the building was Lippie, Lippincott.

32:43I don't know if he's still with the Bengals or not. And I would always come in early after the preseason game and come in, hit the cold tub, hit the hot tub, get my body back rejuvenated and fresh, and I would see Lippie standing there right at the door and just thinking to myself, man. So he's collecting the playbook and letting me know to go up and see the coach. Before the meetings even start. I'm like, man, that's tough, man. And then hard knocks, hard knocks, hard knocks made it a reality in allowing people to see people actually, you know, get cut. And how that side of it works. And as heartbreaking as sad as it is, it's the reality of the game.

33:31Shannon Sharpe:That's reality. We got to show you both sides. You just see the plug guys making plays, scoring touchdowns, the camaraderie on the field and the meeting rooms and things like that. But there's another side to this, that somebody, some young man, men, their dreams, this dream is not going to come true. And you have to reshift, refocus. A lot of it, you know, you're disciplined because you have to be somewhat disciplined to play football because you got, you know, you got study hall. You got when you work out, you got practice, when you got to be there for the plane ride, when you got to be there for the bus ride, how you have to dress.

34:12Shannon Sharpe:So there's a certain level of structure in a lot of these young men lives. So, you know, some, you know, a structure is is not their strong suit because they do everything they can against it. But most most of these men, they do have structure because you've kind of been in the structured environment for the better part of your life. And so it should be, you know, if you go back and go into the workforce, the actual nine to five, you know, you got to be to work at a certain time. You know the task that you're asked to do. You just go get it done. But that's the unfortunate side of playing a professional sport, that everybody dreams of playing.

34:58Shannon Sharpe:And that's the thing, you know, for every Ocho Cinco and a Shannon Sharp or a Sterling Sharp or somebody that came of the less than favorable or impoverished conditions, there are a lot of people that came from those same conditions that didn't get an opportunity to play in the NFL, Ocho, that got the opportunity that you and I got, and that was as far as they got, was training camp. That's tough, man. It is. I think it's a good thing. I think it's also a good thing for fans to be able to see the entire process, not just the finished product on Sundays. Actually see what players have to go through.

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39:24Yeah, you know, got a great home opener, you know, against the Lions, NFC, you know, rivalry. So it was a nice way to start the season. I just want my work to show. So I have a quick question for you. Camp is over now. Obviously, I'm sure you guys have a week to work on some things. Packers versus Packers before you get into a game plan and scheme for week one. How was camp for you? How is the body holding up? How do you feel? Are you going into camp healthy? Oh, yeah. No, this is – yeah, it's crazy. because I was just talking to my teammate Kenny about it. I'm like, going into year seven, this is one of the healthiest camps that I have.

40:05So I'm feeling good from OTAs all the way through now. I've been putting in a great body at work, and now it's just time to put it on display.

40:13Shannon Sharpe:Yes, sir. You guys don't play a game for another two weeks. Is Coach LaFleur going to give you guys some time off? Are you back on Monday, or do you get Sunday? You get Monday. You guys are back in there Tuesday. or you're going to get a little time off before you have to hit it and start getting ready for the Lions in two weeks? Yeah, you know, we got a couple practices coming up next week, but, you know, we got the weekend off and then back to work on Sunday. Damn, y 'all back to work on Sunday already? Damn, I figured Coach LaFleur would give y 'all a couple days off, y 'all. You're like, well, damn, Coach, we had a good camp.

40:51Shannon Sharpe:The Packers, your defense. I mean, you mentioned Kenny Clark. I'm assuming you're talking about Kenny Clark. now you lost your cornerback, your all-pro cornerback. You released him, and he ends up going to Baltimore. How do you guys, because you guys have shown spots where you guys are dominant. I'm talking about dominant. You attack the quarterback. You stop the run. You turn the team over. You give your offense short fields. How do you stay consistent in doing that, Rashawn? Yeah, just holding up. I stand it. Everybody got to do their 111. And throughout OTAs, especially, you know, being year two, doing a, you know, a coach half system.

41:27It's been crazy watching everybody fly to the ball, attack the ball, and actually being on one accord, you know, talking about first all the way to the fourth down, get back on track downs. We all on the same page, all speaking the same language. And, you know, it's been good seeing it. For you guys, especially the Packers, opening up with a game like this against the Lions is a good test for you guys defensively, obviously, whether it be on the ground, whether it be in the air, because you understand the dynamic and how special the Lions offense is. even with Ben Johnson leaving, they still have all those weapons, you know, Jameer Gibbs and Montgomery, you know, the receivers on the outside, tight end, your thought process going into it early so far, what is it that you think you guys need to do to win that game come week one from a defensive standpoint?

42:14I already know what you guys can do on offense. Defensively, can you be able to hold them? I'm not sure where the Lions finish when it comes to scoring, but you know they can put up points. Yeah, absolutely. Just like I was saying, we've been doing a great job through OTAs and camp of being on the same page, speaking the same language, understanding what teams want to do to us, especially our offense in these last couple of joint practices, really being on the same page of how these offensive teams want to attack us, understanding our weak points. And I'm saying when all 11 know that, we understand how to protect it.

42:44So just basically being on the same page. And when it comes to that game right at 3 o 'clock, we got to be locked in, focused in on one of the core how we've been and just having fun. Okay, one more question. One more question. Go ahead. I know your team goals. You got team goals, obviously, from a defensive perspective. Team goals, offensively and decently. Obviously, the main goal, you want to be in San Francisco at the end of the season, first week of February. But personal goals, your personal goals yourself that you would want to achieve. Can you share with us, you know, whatever it may be?

43:17Yeah, I could just show you my, you know, share a little into my mindset, man. Just trying to be dominant, man. I've been training hard this offseason. Really just trying to take over, like I said, one through fourth downs. Man, that's what I'm playing for. And really just trying to show everybody, you know, how dominant I can be.

43:34Shannon Sharpe:Rashawn, you're the vet now. There is no more Aaron Rodgers. There is no more Jahir Alexander. You're one of the old guards now. So now, how has your leadership style changed? Because guess what? You're one of the senior voices now. Yeah, you know, it's been great, man. It's something that you always pray for and ask for. It's crazy. We got rookies coming in and talking about it. I used to watch you before my high school games. I'm like, man. Yeah, so it's kind of weird. But I've been having fun. And Green Bay has been doing a great job, especially from when I came in with the guys they had ahead of me, being able to keep it real with me, especially a big guy to me was Mercedes Lewis.

44:16So talking to him how to take care of my body, things like that. So when young guys come up to me asking me how to film study, what to look for, things like that. I'm able just to keep it real because I had a good OG. But, man, it's just been fun, man. I'm really a lead by, you know, example. And if I need to speak, I get there. But then also I started to learn that, you know, you can't talk to everybody the same way. You know, you got to understand, you know, everybody's background. You're dealing with. Yeah, you know, everybody's background, you know, why everybody's in it. And I feel like, you know, this offseason, especially through OTAs, camp, you know, I've been able to understand people why.

44:47So when the dude get time, you know, two-minute drill, the fourth quarter when we got a lock in, you know, I could hit those points. hey what's it what's it what's it like there in green bay is there anything to do is it fun uh you know it's chill calm you know yeah play football man and focus man uh but man it's chill calm green bay you know slept on but you know it's a great community and it's well loved

45:11Shannon Sharpe:okay okay yeah yeah i mean you got milwaukee you got chicago that's a couple that's 90 minutes away. You got Milwaukee that's 90 minutes away. So, but it's easy to play. My brother played there for seven years, Rashawn, and going to visit him, you can see why they had success in the 60s. Ain't nothing else to do. There was less to do then than there is now, but you can understand why the Packers have success. There's not a whole lot to get into. There's not a whole lot of trouble. There's not a, look, Appleton is down the way, but that's a college town, like I mentioned. Milwaukee, but hell, Milwaukee closed down at 10 30.

45:46Shannon Sharpe:You ain't really trying to drive way to Chicago. You ain't really trying to drive way to Chicago to have a good time. Hey, when you're there for those months, when you come back for training camp and you're there, hey, bro, let's make the best of this situation. We can get tunnel vision. We can lock in. Let's try to go compete and win a Super Bowl. And that's the mindset. And that's how it's always been being a Green Bay Packer. Let me ask you this. Is there a play that you replay, if there's almost sack, if there's almost a ball that was on the ground, that damn, if I could have just got this one, it would have helped.

46:19Shannon Sharpe:Is there a play that you replay in your mind since you've been in Green Bay that you's like, man, if I'd have made that play, that would have been a difference in the game? To be honest with you, now off the top of my head, but I played too hard to give it up, man. I'm going on year seven and like a lot of guys I talk to, you can't take it for granted. And right now, I'm in some crucial years where I feel like, you know, I could take off and start extending in the right way. Hey, it's flying by, huh? Do you realize you're in year seven already? It went by fast, didn't it? Yeah, it's going by fast.

46:52It's going by fast. Like I said, I'm trying to stay in the moment and, you know, enjoy the ride. Oh, yeah.

46:57Shannon Sharpe:It is because you look up and you're going to be in year 10. And because, you know, you're like, man, let me get five. And you say, well, let me get the 10. And then once you get the 10, you're like, let me take a year at a time. But before you know it, I mean, I woke up one morning. I'm like, damn, I'm in year 10. And the next day you know, hey, calling Mike said, hey, this is it for me, bro. I'm done. It goes fast. And that's why I tell guys, man, enjoy it. Make sure you're training, you're eating, you're prep, everything. Because you don't want to have not one iota of regret. Because regret, when you leave this game, you can't go back.

47:32Shannon Sharpe:And so to have that moment of regret for the rest of your life, it'll eat at you. So when you're done, Rashawn, when you're saying, hey, Green Bay, hey, LaFleur or Gunikin, so whomever you got a call that says I'm done, hopefully you finish your career in Green Bay, you're like, hey, you look back and you're like, man, I gave it everything I had. The way I trained, the way I slept, the way I practiced, the way I met, everything. I walk away with my head held high knowing I couldn't have got anything else out of the talent that God blessed me with. Hey, it's a good one right here too, boy. It's a good one.

48:06So I think about, obviously, during my playing days, some of the players that I looked up to at the same position, obviously, while we're still playing, I would watch their film and study some of the things that they did and steal some of their moves, no matter what, just to be able to add to my game to improve year to year. Who are some players that play the exact same position you do that you look up to and watch their film to see what they do where you can add to your toolbox as well? Yeah, with me, it's funny, but I like going throwback. So, you know, I like throwing on Julius Peppers. Yeah, Julius Peppers.

48:43Yeah, Julius Peppers. I love Tom Olley when he was in the Kansas City Chiefs doing his thing. Yeah, Justin Houston. You know, those are guys that I feel like I rush similar towards. And then nowadays, you know, you throw on, you know, Miles Garrett. You get, you know, been in the edge of, you know, T.J. Watt. But I ain't going to lie to you. He's the power guy. Yeah, speed of power, you know. But, you know, this year I've been doing a lot of watching myself, man. Yeah, I like it. I like it. That's dope.

49:12Shannon Sharpe:Let me ask you this, because Ocho and I was talking and how we approach the game of football, how we approach as a wide receiver. When you go into a game, obviously you're trying to get to the quarterback, but everything leads to something else. I'm showing him one thing, but that's not really what I want to do. I'm giving him this, but I really want to do that. but I'm saving it for a rainy day because I know it's going to come a third down in this fourth quarter. And I know I've been running up the field the whole game. And I know I've been stabbing you the whole game. I've been posted and wiping you away the whole game.

49:47Shannon Sharpe:And I know you finna sit on that because that's what I've given you. I've given you no reason to prepare for anything else. Is that how you approach the rush game? is that, look, I'm doing what I can, but I know I got to have this in my back pocket when I absolutely got to get this quarterback on the ground. Yeah, shoot. You know, thinking about pass rushes and every pass rusher I talk to, man, you know, all the great ones, you really got about four moves in the toolbox. And at the end of the day, it's really about reacting to what the, you know, the offensive lineman wants you to do. But once you get off the ball the same way and you, you know, got him thinking, oh, he about to stab him, about to stab him.

50:25Yeah, I stabbed you the first four or five, Maybe six rushes. But, you know, that third, you know, crucial down, you know, third and 10, third and eight, we got to go off the field. I'm out of the 60 down at the edge. But, yeah, it's a game. It's a game within the lines of y 'all both know that.

50:41Shannon Sharpe:It's a beautiful thing to watch the guys because, you know, I'm a lot older than you. I'm probably the age of your dad. But the pass rushes, to watch DT, how he got off the edge and bent the edge, he reminds me of Vaughn Miller. and then I see Reggie White, how he just had pure power. He just, hey, he's just getting on the edge and he gonna hump you. You already know what's coming. You can sit down as much as you want to. You 330 and try to sit on it. You gonna get humped. He gonna throw a 330 pound man like he's a sack of potatoes. And then you get a guy like a Bruce Smith that's 265, 270, all out like a Miles Garrett playing on a five technique.

51:22Shannon Sharpe:And you're like, bro, how this man bend the edge like that? How can he lean? He's this high off the ground, Rashad. I'm like, how? How does he do that? I'm watching you. You've got a lot of power. I see the way you're built from waist down and the way you can post a guy, wax on, wax him off. You can also bend the edge. As you mentioned, you can convert speed to power because you can. It's all about getting off the ball. Once I get off the ball, you have my mercy, bro. As long as I'm not lazy off the ball.

52:04It's going to be a good night. You're absolutely right.

52:08Shannon Sharpe:So let me ask you a question. A lot of guys will listen to the TV version. They'll get the TV version and they'll try to pick up the quarterback's cadence. how blue 17 blue 17

52:26Shannon Sharpe:ready set do you do things like that trying to pick up the audio copy try to pick up the field copy yeah absolutely um shoot i'm in the you know the quarterback i'm into the quarterback cadence i'm also in the i'm heavy on the office and line talk the office and line will tell you everything all right i'll let you know if it's a run you know how loud they communicate how you're sitting how they sitting, eyes, body language. Yeah, I'm into it all. But especially once I hear the offensive linemen, you know, talking, they kind of be able to, you know, for my reads and everything, I'm kind of able to pick it up and play faster.

52:59Shannon Sharpe:Especially when you're at home because it's hard for them to hear. So they've got to communicate. And as much as he's trying to look at you, he got to look. But now they kind of hold hands a little bit, but he's still got to kind of look inside. And, hey, all you need is a half a step. That's all you need. It ain't no, hey, ain't no, look, these guys are good. You ain't just finna just beat these guys. But that half a step that you get, that you get on the edge, and once you get them shoulders, hey, once he turn. Tell him. Bro, you not finna ride me up the field. I'm finna get skinny and I'm finna get narrow.

53:37Shannon Sharpe:I'm finna get the quarterback on the ground. Yes, sir. so uh and uh before the 2019 draft you funded your own sports agency the rashaun gary sports what inspired you to do something like this um going to michigan um being able to sit in uh you know our ross business school had a couple classes i was blessed and fortunate to have a couple classes in there um and just uh you know actually talk about no business models marketing actually got to you know talk about life after football and it's something that you know i really never thought about it and I'm like, we can be real, football is the biggest thing.

54:12This is not going to stop. It's only going to get bigger and bigger and keep growing and growing. So I'm like, when I get old and then when I do hang my cleats up, how can I stay around the game, give the game to young guys, especially in positions where I wish I would have had growing up. And then also to leave a legacy for my kids, kids and hopefully they kids. So we're just trying to build it, become a powerhouse. I like that. That's dope. That's dope. Hey, Rashawn, you do realize that division you're in.

54:43Shannon Sharpe:You got the Packers. They won 14 games last year. You got the Lions. They won 15 games last year. You got the Bears, and many believe they're much improved with the addition of Ben Johnson as their head coach. They've added pieces on the offensive line to protect Caleb Williams. Defense seemed to be flying around under D.C. Dennis Allen and yourself, the Packers. You guys made the playoff. Jordan Love had the surgery on his left hand, but everybody say he's good to go. What do the Packers need to do to win this division, get a home game, and say, hey, let whatever happens happen after that? We got to go out there and we just got to play Packers ball.

55:22Like I said, we've been growing from OTAs through camp. I'm talking about even finishing the pregame. I mean, preseason on a high note. You know, we just got to keep everything flowing. Like I said, especially on defense, We've been speaking the same way, which I've been seeing offense, you know, do their thing, connecting. Even the special teams, you know, the guys flying down. Understand that's a very crucial part and an important part of the game. So all we got to do is be consistent and have the mindset to go 1-0 every week.

55:50Shannon Sharpe:Let me ask you this. At practice, do you – if you see something from, like, your offensive line, like, bro, that's a tail. I can tell when you run the ball. I tell when you're passing the ball. I can tell how you're trying to set me up. Do you guys communicate like that? Do they tell you, hey, Rashad, bro, hey, you gave this move away. Do you guys communicate like that with one another? Oh, yeah, that's iron, sharp, and iron, especially when I'm trying to work on something. I'm big on that. I'm talking about both my tackles come to me. Like, what bother you? So, of course, I'm going to tell them everything I don't like to do so I can work on it and practice and vice versa.

56:27You know, me working on certain moves, okay, you telegraphed that. man, if you would have sold it up an extra step, you feel me, or oh, you got me on that move. I'm like, all right, you know, keep working things like that. But yeah, it's iron stripe and iron practice. And me with all the information for season, that's not going to better the team. So I'd rather make it hard on me now. So for the guys that do give it away in season, I can play a little bit faster.

56:48Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man, that's great. Man, thank you, Rashawn, for joining us, man. Stay healthy. Best of luck. Hey, this year you was, what? Hold on, let me find out where you were. You was number 80. Man, you drop 50, you down 30 spots. So when we come back and have this conversation next year, you got to be in the top 30. You got to be 30 above. Well, 30 or below. It's going to be great talking to you then. Thank you, bro. Best of luck. Stay healthy. Good luck to the Packers this season. And we're going to talk to you down the road. Appreciate y 'all. Thank you. It's an honor. Appreciate you, bro. Have a good one.

57:23Shannon Sharpe:All right. Rashad Gary, ladies and gentlemen.

57:55We'll be right back.

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest NFL stories of the week on Nightcap! The guys react to Jaxson Dart's entire preseason performance and Packers Pro Bowler, Rashan Gary, joins the show to discuss the Packers upcoming season.

0:00 - Mike Vrabel called out Patriots ‘rats’ after injury report leak
15:19 - Jaxson Dart’s impressive preseason
30:44 - Rashan Gary joins the show

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