BEST OF NFL Week 10 Part 2: Brian Daboll FIRING is a SHOCKER + Aaron Rodgers is STINKING IT UP in Pittsburgh

23:49Shannon Sharpe:They're going to find a way to get the ball. I thought Green Bay did a great job of Jalen Hurts get the ball, gets going, picks up a big – and the guy comes in, punches it out. I was like, okay, Green Bay, you might be on to something. but you know you've got to protect the ball for four quarters when you play the Eagles because they're very opportunistic. They'll find a way to get the ball out. Ocho, I just need you to help me with one thing, and then I'm going to let you go. Talk to me. It's fourth and one. Why are you trying to go in a hurry when you've already gotten – first of all, they missed the first false start on the quarterback sneaking the first quarter.

24:22Shannon Sharpe:They missed that one. The damn show missed the one on the tush push. I'm trying to figure out how can I see things in real time. the officials at the damn game can't. We'll get to that in a minute. They're not supposed to call it. They're not supposed to call it. You got fourth and one. This is the money down. Take a time out. Give me your best fourth and one. Give me your best fourth. Okay, what do we like on fourth and one? Hey, Jordan, what do you like on fourth and one? We got three options right here. I like this. What one do you like?

24:57Shannon Sharpe:Receivers. when they go double tight, when they go jumbo formation, they got center, guard, tackle, extra offensive lineman. That extra offensive lineman is a tight end. You got to back your ass up. You're the Z receiver. The guy to the open side now, he's the X receiver. Boy, look here. Sometimes, Ocho, what I get upset about, sometimes I'll be watching these guys play. if Dynamite was brain, they couldn't blow their nose. Boy, look at here. This is why, chat. I mean, it's common sense, Ocho. You got an extra lineman. He's on the ball. He's now the tight end. You've got to back off. Yeah. The open side is now the ex-receiver.

25:52Shannon Sharpe:It's just common. It's just so – maybe it's me because some things you just – Ocho, it's just common knowledge. I could just like really think on the fly and just like, okay, I'm supposed to be on the ball. I made the mistake one time and it cost us a big play and I promised I'd never be in that situation again. I know who's supposed to be on the ball. But if he lines up on the ball, Ocho, ain't no harm, no foul. I'll back up off the ball. Instead of having a play where now all of a sudden where we have an illegal formation because me, I'm supposed to be on the ball. You're supposed to be on the...

26:28Shannon Sharpe:No, no, no, no. You get on the ball. I'll get off. A lot of times, guys, I like to be on the ball. A lot of times, guys don't like to be on the ball because you're closer to the defender. I like being on the ball because it's going to give me an opportunity to get my hands on you because I'm going to throw your ass out of the way. I ain't going to beat you. You know what that tells me too, Unc? After one, two, three, three, four, four days to prepare, after two days of real practice, five days of Fast Friday, I mean, one day of Fast Friday, that that actual play that they did call on that fourth and one is one that they didn't go over many times.

27:03One that they didn't rehearse very many times. One that they didn't go through and walk through on Saturday mornings, you know, when we talk about situational football. In case this comes up on four down and these are the plays we choose from, this is the alignment that we need. That's why that happened.

27:19Shannon Sharpe:They rushed it, Ocho. Why are you, Ocho, This is the most important. This is for the game. Oh, yeah. Why would you rush it? I would rather take a timeout because the likelihood of you getting the ball back, and if you do get the ball back, Ocho, you're not going to get it back with a whole bunch of time. So now, and look at the position that you're in. Look where you are. Bro, I'm like, you got to be kidding me. You rushed that on fourth and one? Normally, Ocho If I'm going to invest something And this is my last I ain't just going to put it around right there I'm going to think about this This is my absolute last It's got to be the best It's got to be the best option I mean The Eagles The one thing they're not going to do And you can think about Sirianni Whatever you want They're not going to beat themselves They're not going to beat themselves They're going to line up properly.

28:19Shannon Sharpe:The alignment is going to be where they're supposed to be. If a guy's on the ball, he's going to be on the ball. If the guy's off the ball, he's going to be off the ball. Defensively, they're going to be where they're supposed to be. Man, I watched a situation where they ran what we call cover five, Ocho. 22 man. Yeah. Man, I watched Mitchell. Man, I thought it was a kung fu movie. Romeo Dobbs ain't moved. He's ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ain't moved nowhere, Ocho. I'm like, damn, son. Ocho don't laugh, man. Man, Ocho. What kind of movie? Hey, hey. What kind of movie it was? I thought it was a Cosmo movie.

28:56Shannon Sharpe:Ha, ha, ha, hoo, ha. And he ain't moved. Quit. And Mitchell like stabbed him with one. And he just standing up there like, bro. You got to be. Yeah. All that dancing is fine if you're at the disco. But when you're on the football field, you got to be moving forward. because the quarterback, as he's going back and you're still at the line of scrimmage. Yeah. And remember we had the conversation. Josh Jacobs said, we need a dog. We got some good. And all the receivers got mad and they need a dog. They got good. They got quality receivers. I think Watson is the best, but he can't stay healthy. He got so much speed.

29:43Shannon Sharpe:He got hamstrings. He had his knee. He can't stay healthy. Well, listen, listen. What we're looking for when we talk about a dog, they have such good quality wide receivers that are really good at doing different things. All this is a little fine-tuning, huh? It ain't nothing but a little fine-tuning. Well, they need to come see you so they can fine-tune it. Hey, let me tell you something. Everybody, if you think about it, everybody that came to that wide receiver workshop in July, you see what they're doing this year, right? a j jsn jsn had my eyes wide open being able to see him in person there i saw him at ohio state i seen him at the rosebow you know i saw him i saw him a little a little bit last year but i was not expecting this i didn't expect what i'm seeing now you know and just listen dobs wicks uh jayden reed come on back down here man bring bring them boys with you man let's politic together, continue to work on our craft, continue to work on our game, and get better for situations like today, for nights like today, where plays don't come often, and the ones that you do make, you got to make a difference.

30:53These are the reasons why you get paid the million. These type of games are the reasons why you get paid the big bucks.

30:59Shannon Sharpe:Look, for me, I think the way the Eagles are going to have to win, they're going to have to win the game more on Jalen Hurts' arms than Saquon legs, as opposed to what it was last year. Teams are not going to let him run wild. Last year, it seemed like every game we've come out here and we're like, man, how y 'all keep letting this man hit his head on the goalpost from 60? How y 'all let him hit his head on the goalpost twice from 50 plus? Now they're like, we're going to shut this water off. You're going to have to get water elsewhere. And elsewhere is going to be in the form of Jalen Hurts, his legs and his arms.

31:35Shannon Sharpe:But they do a great job. Jalen is rare that Hurts turns the ball over. They got it out tonight. They got him going down and then boom, dude with the peanut punch. He did a great job of getting it out. But if I'm the Packers, it's a team game. But you know the frustration is starting to get built, Ocho. Bro, we held that team to 10 points. We held that team to 10 points. We held Saquon Barkley to 60 yards. We held the quarterback to under 200 yards passing. That's got to be enough. Well, it wasn't enough. So you're going to have to find ways that, like, you're going to have to create more turnovers.

32:15Shannon Sharpe:You're going to have to put the opposing quarterback under the rest. Now, Gritty, that's a good offensive line. The big right tackle, he got Nick, came out, but you see when the rubber needed to meet the role on that fourth down, he brought his ass back in the game because Lane Johnson, because that's how much it means to it. But this Green Bay Packers team, man, they got to do some soul searching because the Lions, hey, hold on. They play the Lions on Thanksgiving, don't they? I think that's the Thanksgiving Day game. I believe so. Yeah, it's three games that day. The Packers, Packers, they got at Giants.

32:50Shannon Sharpe:They got at Vikings at home, at Lions on Thanksgiving. Hey, and hold on. Just so you know, they got the Bears twice. The Bears ain't no easy winging. Oh, no, not no. No, no, no. No, not no more. And you go to Denver. Well, they're going to beat Denver. Okay. You see that pass rush? Who you think got a better pass rush, us or the Eagles? I mean, you know the Broncos' pass rush is number one right now. Exactly. Hey, forget the pass rush. defense as a whole on all three levels. They got the Ravens. And the Vikings again. The Eagles' remaining schedule, Lions at home, at Cowboys, Bears at home, at Chargers, Raiders at home, at Commanders, at Bills.

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37:28Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, we talked about this last night. We didn't see it coming so soon, but the Giants head coach, Brian Dayball, has been relieved of his duties after blowing another double-digit lead Sunday in Chicago. Giants co-owner John Mayer and Steve Tisch said today, the past few seasons have been nothing short of disappointing, and we have not met our expectations for this franchise. We understand the frustration of our fans, and we will work to deliver significant improved product. Assistant coach, offensive coordinator Mike Kafka will serve as the Giants interim head coach. Dayball, 20-40-1 as Giants head coach.

38:02Shannon Sharpe:His 336 winning percentage puts him behind Ben McAdoo. No, he had a bunch of a cheesecake factory, that big menu he had. And Ray Perkins fired two of the three head coordinators and flip-flop play calling with others. Replaced five of nine position coach, started seven different quarterbacks, had a running record with none of them. He's fired as the Giants because he didn't win. It's really that simple. No, owners, John Maron, Steve Tisch, you fail. How's the general manager still there? Because he hired him. How's he still there? Daniel Jones is gone. Saquon Barkley is gone. He drafted Evan Neal.

38:48Shannon Sharpe:so you think you're going to get an improved product when the general manager the guy that's making all the decisions he's still there I'm not saying Brian Dayball should or should not have been fired we'll discuss that in a minute but I'm trying to figure out how Sean has been able to keep his damn job

39:10hey

39:15honestly regardless of what coach comes in there, they're probably going to get fired. They've gone through multiple coaches.

39:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. They've been going through multiple coaches and for Brian Dayball to get fired is kind of somewhat understandable. He's had leading games in multiple games this season. He had leading games early in the game and they lost on the back end. They lost on the back end. I'm talking about bad. Game that they should have continued to be able to have some type of success after having the leads they've had and they squandered everyone? You mean you didn't win not one of those? I think they've had four double-digit leads going into the fourth quarter, right? Yes. I mean, they had a 26-8, 26-9 lead over the Broncos.

40:00Shannon Sharpe:They had a 2010 lead over the Bears.

40:07Shannon Sharpe:They had the lead with the Cowboys with like 14 seconds. The guy comes on to do a big field goal and they end up winning in an overtime. Yeah. Oh, here it is. Week two, they led 13-3, lost 40-37. At the Saints, they led 14-3, lost 26-14. The Broncos, they led 26-8, lost 33-32. With the Bears, they led 20-10, lost 24-20. Yeah. And one thing about it, we always say coaches, coaches, coaches, coaches, coaches. You can have 100 coaches, 100 different coaches coming there, and all 100 are going to get fired. Yeah. All 100 are going to get fired. And listen, some accountability has to be put on the players as well, but obviously the coaching staff too.

40:57And the one person who oversees all that is Brian. So at this point, it was time.

41:02Shannon Sharpe:No, Brian don't coach the team. He ain't got no say. He probably didn't have any say over the Final 53. He probably had no say in free agency. He probably had no say in the draft. Hell no. He happy to have a job. Hold on. So it sounds like somebody, they running the show over there like that team, they got that stone in the house. Yes, yes, yes. That's why I laugh when Jerry talking about he thought about hiring Sean Payton. Man, you actually think Sean Payton's going to come in there, and the only thing he's going to be is a coach. He ain't going to have no say over the final 53. He's not going to have any say over the draft.

41:34Shannon Sharpe:He's not going to have any say of free agency. He's just going to stand there and coach. And then when things go wrong, they're going to blame him. Just like all the coaches he fired. How many coaches has he had since he fired Jimmy? who took over the year with it he had who's that Dave Campo he had Dave Campo he had Chan Gailey who was my old position coach he had Wade Phillips he had Jason Garrett

42:00Shannon Sharpe:Mike McCarthy he's probably had more than that right until damn you know hey John Merritt you know what I mean you know when you had a lot to say about what the fans what the fans were saying because you was reading all their mail when they was calling in and talking about cap and all that. You read the mail. Let's read some of the mail what they're saying about you. See if they're happy with you and what you've been able to do with this franchise. Yeah. Because y 'all ain't, y 'all, look, y 'all ain't been close. Since y 'all got rid of, since Eli retired, you bungled that. Eli had all those consecutive starts.

42:39Shannon Sharpe:Then you start Geno, and then you start Eli again after you done break the man's streak. and they did that of course they did you know what they doing Barry Switzer came after Jimmy so it was Barry Switzer then I think it was Parcells Campbell oh they had 10 coaches okay so Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer Chan Gailey, Dave Campbell Bill Parcells, Wade Phillips Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy Brian Schott uh

43:13Shannon Sharpe:Jimmy Johnson had a 50 winning percentage. Barry Switzer had 625. Chan Gailey was 18 and 14. Dave Campo was 15 and 33. Bill Parcells was 34 and 30. Wade Phillips was 34 and 22. Jason Garrett was 85 and 67. Mike McCarthy was 49-35. And Brian Schottenheimer right now is 3-5-1. It's not just a shot. Aren't they getting darts? No, but what we're saying is that ownership plays a large part in the success of a team. I'm glad you just said that. Look at all the teams that consistently win. The Chiefs. Look at the Chiefs. The Ravens. Look at the Patriots. yeah the Ravens well obviously I'm going to throw the Packers in there because they're a winning organization not actually getting Lombardi trophies but always being in contention and another thing one thing that can overcome bad ownership is a great quarterback yeah but you got to pick him and sometimes they'll mess that up hey that too but having an elite quarterback can overcome some of the bad decision-making that happens all the way upstairs.

44:36Shannon Sharpe:I think the problem that Coach Dayball ran into, Ocho, is that he realized early on the only guy that can save my job is the quarterback that we drafted in the first round. But in the process of doing that, he put him in harm's way. Because, Ocho, if I'm drowning, I don't give a damn about drowning you to save myself.

44:56Shannon Sharpe:I'm trying to keep my head above water. So if that means you got to go down and I got to stand on your shoulders, so be it. and that's what he did he put this kid in harm's way because he's trying to save his job because at the end of the day right yeah i drafted him hell i want to coach him so and so in the process of putting him in harm's way he subjected him to some hits jackson darton i've said this and now i was early on man let the chat they always want to let somebody live now you got your guy in the blue tent damn near every game because you wanted to let him live. You like that fire. I want my quarterback to have energy.

45:37Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Now look at your quarterback. Y 'all still like that? Because you had a lot to say. I said, you can't run like that. You can't. You can't have your quarterback being susceptible to those kind of hits. That's why they're protecting his ass in the pocket. Once he leaves the pocket, tee off on him. He's a running back. Now look at him. But y 'all have a lot to say. We ain't had that kind of energy in a long time, and you might not have it again. Hey, listen. Honestly, too, and as a fan of the game, but watching Jackson Dart, once he came in, Yes, absolutely. But you got to be smart, though, Ocho.

46:15Yeah, you do. Now, that comes on him, and that's going to come. He's going to get that with experience and understanding. You got to pick and choose your battles. And when you pick me, you got to pick them wisely. Well, I hope they knock some sense into it

46:25Shannon Sharpe:because they damn sure knocked some marbles out of it. Oh, yeah. You got to make business decisions. You got to make business decisions when you got that ball in your hands and you cross that threshold and you become a runner. Man, hey, them boys is not playing with you out there, man. This is not college. Them grown men. They're trying to break you because that's their opportunity because they can't hit your ass in the pocket like they want to. But what they can do is tee off on your ass when you're out of the pocket. Absolutely. They give you something called a protection where you can slide and they can't touch it.

46:57Shannon Sharpe:now you try to be a hero and I get all that you get up and get the first down and you do all this and you get the crowd hyped and all that okay okay Billy Badass

47:12Shannon Sharpe:I've seen it I know what they're going to do yeah quarterbacks are not used to taking hits like that they're not built to take hits like that so why would you subject yourself to taking that kind of punishment, Ocho. You're not going to take that kind of punishment. Hold on. And it's a funny thing about it. And some of the play calling ain't helping. No. Some of the play calling... Didn't I just tell you I'm drowning? Hell yeah. I'm trying to save my damn self. So if you drowning the process, so be it, Ocho. Yeah. As long as you save my ass, huh? Thank you. Why you think he calling those plays, Ocho?

47:51Shannon Sharpe:And I get it. I get it. But Jackson Dart needs to be smarter and they need to put an emphasis on it also. Hey, son, get down. You get the first down, hey, I get it. The crowd gets energized, but the crowd will get you effed up. Yeah. They'll get you effed up. Hey, trying to do what they want, huh? Yeah. You're exactly right. Let me ask you a question, don't you? Who do you think will be a good fit? Who do you think will be a good fit for the Giants?

48:22Shannon Sharpe:Nah. Okay. I see how much money they take from you in New York. On 1.5 million, you bring home 747 ,000. Kick rocks. Yeah, you're right. Can I coach from Vegas? I do have all my meetings from Zoom. I'm trying to think of a collegiate coach that would resonate very well with grown men that are in the NFL. Hell, brother Lane Kiffin, huh? Lane? You like John Gruden? Yeah. Oh, Lane Kiffin and John Gruden? That's the only two I can think of off the top of my head. Mike McCarthy. I heard Mike McCarthy name thrown around. What about, what about... Hey, for that city, though. That city need a coach like a Lane Kiffin and John Gruden.

49:18That's a little bit fiery. You know, a little bit, has a little personality to him. I think they were fit. What's the offensive coordinator for Washington?

49:32Shannon Sharpe:He was the head coach in Arizona. Cliff Kingsbury. What about Cliff Kingsbury? Now, he normally works really well with mobile, athletic quarterbacks. We saw what he did with Kyle. We saw what he did, what he's done for Jalen Daniels. But would he work with a Jackson Dart? A guy that's mobile, he's not quite as athletic as Daniels and Kyler, but that might – hey. What do you think? Do you think Drew would ever make a comeback about NFL? Well, I mean, the thing is, it might be a part – I mean, the question is, his thing is they threw it out because, you know, the commissioner wanted to hear it. It's like, no, you're not going to do that.

50:17Shannon Sharpe:You're not going to be the arbitrator man suing you and you hear your own opinion. No, hell no. So the question is with the NFL, how is that going to play out? Because this thing's going to court. So do they get a settlement and a part of the settlement, he can come back and coach? Or is it a situation where we're going to give you money and you're done, you can cover the league, but you're not going to coach in the league?

50:41I like the John Gruden route. John Gruden and obviously Lane Kevin, who coached him in college. Did you just not hear what I said?

50:50Shannon Sharpe:he has a pending lawsuit against the NFL let me tell you there are certain rules that are bent regardless of stuff like that going on they can make it happen if the NFL says we're going to offer you a settlement but you cannot coach in the NFL oh okay well hell you know who else had a lawsuit against the NFL and is still coaching Brian Flores yeah Yeah, he's coaching. Is he a head coach?

51:25Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Now, the question is, he's had good defenses. You think he's going to get a job with that lawsuit? Who's going to hire him? Because you do realize if he sue the league, who is he suing? One of those owners. One of the owners, yeah. So, it's going to be a very interesting situation to see how this plays out. It's kind of like, Ocho, I got a lawsuit to get you, but I want my job back. Nah, you go ahead and take this money and go head on. You ain't getting no job back. Hey, but honestly, knowing how the NFL works, understanding the ecosystem that they do have, that brotherhood they have amongst each other, I could still see things working itself out in ways that we won't be able to explain.

52:13Shannon Sharpe:Well, if the lawsuit goes away, it'll be explained. but it's just hard for me to see a scenario. This man, he won't $100 million. He said, you ruined my reputation by leaking this stuff. And you cost me$60 million $60,$70 million that was left on my contract. All that's off the table? He signed a 10-year$100 million deal. $100 million deal, yeah, I remember that. But I thought he was still getting paid. No, you don't get paid. they bought and the thing is Mark Davis didn't want to he said he didn't want to he said the NFL forced him to forced him to do it yeah

52:59Shannon Sharpe:who else I hear people talk about Clint Kubiak the offensive coordinator cause Gep he was the offensive coordinator and Minnesota last year. With who was his quarterback in Minnesota? Sam Darnold. He's the offensive coordinator in Seattle. Who's his quarterback? Ooh, Sam Darnold. It's funny how that worked too, right? He's going to get some strong consideration. Mm-hmm. As the head coach. Hey, Clint, let me get a job. You have to understand also, Clint has to look at the landscape of the New York Giants, understand what you're working with, understand what you had when you was out there in Minnesota.

53:40It made things easy. Ocho. You know, understand the weapons you have around you now that you are over there in goddamn Seattle. Yeah, now do you want to come and start all over in New York? You do have Jackson Dart, who is very exciting. Scatterbow will be back next year. Malik Neighbors. But he should be fine by the start of the season. Who?

54:06Shannon Sharpe:Malik. Yeah, he should be. He definitely should be. But here's the thing, Ocho.

54:13Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, that's still a gold standard franchise. And my first head coaching job is going to be with the New York Giants. Who turns that down? Nobody. You just saw, what's the guy that was at Philly last year? The OC? Yeah.

54:35Shannon Sharpe:He was at Dallas OC for a long time. Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore. Tell him more. Ocho, he took New Orleans. He took the New Orleans job. Give it a choice. You take New Orleans or you taking the Giants.

54:55Shannon Sharpe:The Lions beat the Commanders 44-22. Dan Campbell resumed, took over play calling duties from first-year offensive coordinator John Morton this past week, and it ignited a dominant win. Campbell said he met with Morton for an honest conversation to discuss some changes last Monday, a day after a stunning home loss to the Minnesota Vikings. Things look a lot different on the field, Ocho. Detroit racked up a season-high 226 yards rushing, 546 yards total. Jamison Williams benefited from the change. He had six catches for a buck 19 and a touchdown. It's the second time that he's eclipsed 100 yards this year.

55:33Shannon Sharpe:The first time came in week two against the Bears, in which he had 108.

55:40Shannon Sharpe:not so pretty in this ball game. Frustration set in on Deron Payne, who's punched Amon Ross St. Brown. Payne was ejected. I can see a potential one to two game suspension coming. Yeah. Easy. Easy. This is not the first time because there was a situation that he got into it with a former teammate. Remember, he got into it with a former teammate and he got pieced up on the sideline. The other D-tackle. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. Yes. Yes. Yes, but the NFL is not going to take Kylie to this. I'm saying one to two games, two games on the high end. He's getting a minimum of at least one game.

56:19I say one game. I say one game. If it is two, it's because he's a repeat offender in general and just having issues like this on the field. They're going to be all right. Obviously, frustration set, and I'm not sure what Amon Ross said to him, but it was enough to piss him off. It was enough to piss him off.

56:39Shannon Sharpe:Ken Law said Armand Ra punched him first what receiver you know Ocho gonna punch a D tackle me me I done whooped on a few people I had a fight with Sam Adams in the locker room back in Cincinnati when he was with us hey listen to me let me ask you a question how many D tackles on the football field did you put on the field Oh, no, I ain't do it on the field. I did all my fighting in the locker room. Yeah. So, Payne was ejected. Jared Goff, 25-33, 320, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Jameer Gibbs, 15 carries, 142, two tubs. Montgomery, 15 carries, 71 yards, 33 rush attempts, 226. 33 pass attempts, 320.

57:33Shannon Sharpe:J-Mo six catches a buck 19 one touchdown J-Mo had five for 58 Sam Laporta had five for 53 Raymond had four for 49 Mariota was 16-22 213 two touchdowns they didn't run the ball particularly well at all

57:55Shannon Sharpe:listen in order for the commander to even have a chance honestly I'm just going to be honest with you the person that gives them their best chance to win. Mario, he's a good quarterback. He's a decent quarterback. He's a tier two, borderline tier three quarterback. In order for the commanders to have a chance playing against a team like the Lions that can score well and put up crazy amount of points, you got to be able to match that. In some way, shape, form, or fashion, you have to be able to match their output offensively. And if Jaden Daniels is not playing, it's slim to none. Unless your defense got to play all out world.

58:26They got to play out world. The goddamn Lions had 546 goddamn yards of offense today, man. 546 yards of offense. These are video game numbers in real life. And this is happening almost every week. Even sometimes in their losses, they put up crazy numbers. There was five.

58:44Shannon Sharpe:What get them in trouble is when they turn it over. That's it. When the Lions don't turn it over. Remember, that's how they lost against Washington. Right, right, right. And zero turnovers a day. Zero turnovers. Third down, they were five or ten. And on four down, obviously, I don't give a goddamn what analytics say. Forget what analytics say. Dan Campbell is going foot on four down. They were 2-2 on four down today. That's going to break your back every time at the defense because now you're thinking you're going into a game, you want to play well, especially offense like that. You stop them on three downs.

59:15Boom, you're somewhat happy because you're thinking in your mind, goddamn, we can get off the field. Now we got to punt. They got to punt. And here they go, fourth and two, fourth and one, shoot, fourth and four sometimes. they going for it.

59:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, depending on where they are on the field. Yeah, they definitely going for it. Down in distance, position on the field is more determining than down in distance. It used to be down in distance. If it's fourth and short, Ocho, we going to go for it. Now, it could be fourth and fourth. If they plus 50, they going for it. Plus 50 is a good one. I think they're a little bit more cautious fourth than anything further than that. But once they cross that 30 yards, once they cross that 30 yards, and they all in, hey, this is four-down territory for them. Yeah. Anything past the 30, it's a wrap. They're going for it.

59:59Shannon Sharpe:I agree. I agree. But they look good. I don't know how long. I don't know. We've seen this before. He took over the play calling from an ex-teammate of mine, Anthony Lynn, was calling. But I think they had lost a bunch of games. And he took the play calling over. So I don't know if he's going to continue to do that or at some point in time turn it back over. But I don't see him turning it back over when they had this kind of production and the Rams. Rams. And the Lions look like the Lions that we thought they were going to look like. With this arsenal, the two-headed monster they got, Gibbs got speed to burn.

1:00:35Shannon Sharpe:Montgomery run well between the tackle. He can catch the ball. They do a great healthy mix. Both guys got 15 carries. Nobody feels like they're being left out. You know what's funny about that when it comes to the play calling? Remember I told you when Ben Johnson left and we talked about whether the Lions still look the same? I said they still have the same players. They still have the same players. And obviously, the merry-go-round of who's going to call the plays and who's not, I think that really doesn't matter just about whoever's calling the plays, finding a rhythm, and putting those players in position to work.

1:01:03Now, you got to understand, when the Lions do play, the game they play where they didn't look the way they should offensively or based on they didn't look the way we're used to seeing them, well, hell, the other team on the other side of the ball get paid too, huh? The team on the other side of the ball gets paid too. and you look at games where the Eagles have lost and we're used to seeing them seeing them play well or Saquon hasn't been going off today well hell the goddamn the film is out there now we know what to do we know how to stop them so it's not like they're playing against themselves they're all playing against other people that get paid millions of dollars as well that watch film that study that know their tendencies so I think it's sometimes I mean we get caught up in who's calling the plays where they look this way because Dan Campbell was calling I really don't think it really matters much because the personnel they have offensively is so goddamn good.

1:01:53It's so good. They're going to just execute whatever you goddamn call.

1:01:57Shannon Sharpe:But we used to see. But that's the thing, though. I think putting that personnel in position because that was the same personnel they had before they got – what's the guy at New Orleans now calling the plays? Oh, Mr. Moore. Mr. Moore, yeah. The guy before, Kellen Moore, didn't do that with that offense. That was the same players. They didn't go to the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact, they faltered down the stretch. When Shane Steichen had them, they went to the Super Bowl. Shane Steichen has a competent quarterback now. Look at what they're doing. So, yeah, obviously players matter. It's still Jims and Joes.

1:02:37Shannon Sharpe:But somebody got to put those Jims and Joes because, hey, everybody got the same chess pieces on the board, but everybody don't know how to move those chess pieces. Right, right, right. You're right. You're right about that. And the funny thing, this is the good thing about when it comes to your tier one players at certain positions, when you have those chess pieces and some chess pieces are a little better than others, where you lack when it comes to calling plays, the chess piece is so good, they can overcome that bad play calling. They can overcome that bad play calling depending on who the player is.

1:03:08Hell, that's a lot of receivers that can save a quarterback that throws bad balls. You know? Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to say it in that sense.

1:03:16Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, but you're right. It's still the Jills and the Joes, but it definitely helps when people can put people in position to do what they do. Because you look at Kellen Moore. He in New Orleans. How they working out for it? He's running the same offense that he ran in New Orleans. He called the same plays. But he ain't got Jalen Hurts, and he don't got Saquon, and he don't got Devontae, and he don't got AJ. So, therefore, it's not going to look the same. And that offensive line isn't the same. so with that being said you're not going to get the same results it's a combination but at the end of the day the more good players you have the better your chances are winning

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