BEST OF NFL Week 12 Part 2: Shedeur Sanders SNUBBED of GAME BALL after first Browns win, Mahomes taking shots at Andy Reid?!

21:11Shannon Sharpe:They had a bounce about him. If you think about it, and the defense did their part. They sacked Geno Smith 10 times, Ocho. It was 10? 10. Miles Garrett had three. Miles Garrett has 18 sacks with six games to play. He need five more, right? Five more to break the record. If you keep singling him, he going to get 30. Yep. he's got 13 sacks in his last four games. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah. He gets in that sprinter stance. He get down like a track and get down on all fours. Yeah. He coming to hunt your quarterback. But I like the fact that Shadour was looking to push the ball down the field. Yeah.

21:51Shannon Sharpe:And I think that's what they needed. Guys, because having been a receiver, bro, I want to get down the field. Yeah. I want to, hey, throw the ball. Hey, look, I want to catch the ball. But all this shallow cross and all these bubble screens and all that, But come on, man. It's hard to methodically go down the field, Ocho. We're going to talk about this. The Chiefs going down the field, they had 13, 17, 12, and they're kicking field goals. But it's hard, especially when you've got a young quarterback, and to ask him to be perfect. Tom Brady could play like that. That's Tom Brady. He's not going to make those mistakes.

22:26Shannon Sharpe:But you're asking a first - or second-year guy, young quarterback, to say, okay, we want you to be basically, we'll end up being somewhere of 25 of 33 for a 275-yard three touchdown. Nah, you're asking him to do too much. Let him take some chances. And I thought Shadouard did a great job of getting outside the pocket. On the one they scored on Ocho, he did a great job. He goes back. He's holding the safety just like this there. And then the last second he turns. And so by the time the guy catches and gets up, the safety is like, hold on. if I come downhill I ain't gonna get there so let me try to get him at a nah I ain't gonna be able to get him cause basically when he hit that scene Mocho it was good night Irene it was a wrap yeah it was but level to 20 and he was like hey that's one week of starting imagine when I get an off season imagine when they call plays specifically for me imagine who's that John Lidia said imagine all the people um but i thought he played really well i thought he was really poised i thought i know it was great to see his dad was in attendance and time was like well i don't know man you know goodwill time wasn't missing that one for nothing in the world they could have been playing if colorado had a game today yeah time was like man you know hey i ain't feeling too well it would it would have snuck up snuck out here to vegas to watch his son and that was that was great because you know this is really the first time that his dad's not coaching him his dad's not around picking up the phone is one thing but being able to have a conversation face to face is something entirely different but i was really really pleased with the way he played i thought he threw the ball really really well isaiah bond did a great job uh samson uh what he caught that yeah that long that 66 yarder like you said jerry judy bro did you think he was like Like, I mean, he was just oblivious.

24:23Shannon Sharpe:Like, ain't nobody behind me. Listen, I don't know what Judy would think about. I don't know how you forget about the goddamn backside support. You know they coming now. You know they coming. Hey, listen, I'm not sure. There were three defenders in front of him. Yes. He was getting ready to dead leg somebody. I know the setup. But you got to understand. You got to have self-awareness. Understand your surroundings, man. Get that thing. Get down. Make a business decision. Or take your ass out of bounds. one or the other. Yeah, yeah. They get out of bounds. But look, I know the receivers are happy because he's giving them opportunity to make plays over the top.

25:00Shannon Sharpe:All that shallow cross and bubble screens and all that, as we talked about earlier, Ocho, this gives him an opportunity to push the ball down the field and give them an opportunity to make some big plays. After the game, Kevin Stefanski was noncommittal on the starting quarterback for next Sunday's home game against the 49ers. Ocho, the video has gone viral online. Here's Stefanski. handing out game balls in the locker room after the game. Stayed resilient together like I told you we needed to, right? Stay resilient together, and we fought together. How about Gage's big punt return on special teams?

25:38How about Corey? Every single time you're out there pinning those guys doing your job. Great.

25:46Offense wasn't perfect, wasn't perfect. How about that big play by Sam at the end?

25:54IB, huge play. Q, huge play. Harold making a big play. And then another rookie making his first start. Nice job, Shador. Well done.

26:04With that old saying, save the best for last. How about that f***ing defensive play? Hell yeah.

26:12Holy f***ing. Is what I have to say about that. Ten sacks by our defense. Yay!

26:21Okay.

26:22Shannon Sharpe:I got one ball in my hand. Okay, I got a guy. He's got to get a cold every week. Okay, he had a cold this week. Wasn't feeling himself. Three sacks, which gives him 18 on the season through 11 games, through 11 games, which breaks his own Browns record. Miles Garrett. Come on, man.

26:42So I'll see you guys in tomorrow. Hey, I'll see you Wednesday.

26:49Shannon Sharpe:I remember the days. So hold on. A guy making his first start. A guy that you didn't really want to start. A guy that you didn't even want in your organization. Right, right. And that's all he get. Great job. He don't get no game ball? Nah, he don't get no game ball, Unc. That wasn't his pick. That's not what they want. They don't want him to succeed. You know that. I know no disrespect. The owner told you to himself. Even the head coach. The head coach guy. The head coach's guy is Dylan Gabriel. We all understand that. Listen, didn't you do it make history tonight? Yes. First Browns quarterback as a rookie to start and win after what?

27:24Shannon Sharpe:Since what? 17. I mean, you got to think about Ocho. They've had 42 starting quarterbacks since 1999. Right. No quarterback making his first start. Yeah. The last 17 have said, we didn't get it. They didn't get it done. Yeah. Well, listen. That ain't worth the game ball, Ocho. It's clear as day now. It's clear as day. We've been going back and forth about this over and over, that nitpicking here and there. And people say, oh, they hate it. They're not hating. Oh, Dylan Gaber. Listen, all that, we know what the play is. The writing is on the wall. It's always been on the wall. When the owner came out and said what he said about this not being my pick, this is brother Drew Barry.

28:01Drew Barry, right? Is that how you say his name?

28:02Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Andrew Barry. Andrew Barry, excuse me. Andrew Barry, it was his pick. It was his idea. I mean, we know what it is. You know, the odds are stacked against you. The odds are stacked against you. When an opportunity presents itself, he has to go out there and do what he did. The odds were stacked against him. He went out there, had a good game today. Much, much more room for improvement. But he gave him an opportunity to win. He allows him to have a different style of offensive play calling when he's out there playing. And that's all he can do. Ocho, I ain't say you got to give the man a car.

28:37Shannon Sharpe:I ain't say that. I ain't say you got to pick the man up on you. I ain't saying the team need to pick him up on his shoulders and carry him off the field. But that little bit, oh, you're talking about big-time catch? Hold on. And this is not a knock on you, Harold Fannin, so please don't take it this way. He had four catches for 40 yards.

28:59Shannon Sharpe:I mean, he made two big – I mean, Shadua played his ass off. 11-28 had an interception. I thought he was very good. I thought he was very good with his eyes. I thought he was very good with his feet. Everything was attached. And that's all you got for the man. Miles Garrett deserved five. All the footballs that you brought to El Vegas, give them to him. Say, son, we're going to ship all four of these damn footballs to your house at Cleveland. Miles Garrett, whatever Miles Garrett want. As a matter of fact, Miles, you're underpaid. Take your ass back in there and get more. Hey, you need to get$50 million.

29:32Shannon Sharpe:And he'll get this record as long as the Browns are able to keep the game close where teams can't just run the ball. Excuse me. As long as they're as long. You see they got five last week. Why? Because for a large portion of the game, they had to lead. So if a team got the lead on what you got to do, Ocho, you got to throw the ball to get back in the game. When you see what happened tonight, they jumped out on the 14-0, the 14-3. Now, you got to pass the ball. First of all, your run game is not good enough and your offensive lineman is not good enough to blow people off the ball. So you got to throw it.

30:06Shannon Sharpe:Right. And they got a good enough defensive line that you can't just double. I'm doubling Miles Garrett. Somebody else might get three sacks, but it ain't going to be him. Him, yeah. Because he's the guy that you game plan. Ocho, we go in there on Wednesdays, they got him circled. He got red ink around him. This is the guy that if we don't block, he going to tear our ass up. He will destroy our game plan, run or pass. Yeah. With that being said, that man couldn't flip you doing football, Ocho? You know the man wasn't flipping him no football. You know the man? That is not the individual that they want at the helm.

30:42They made that clear a long time ago. The game that they've been playing in training camp, him not getting reps, we understand that. So therefore, you actually wanting him to give him credit after a game? That ain't happening. So to me, it's not surprising to me because, okay, we already know what it is. We know you're not our guy. I think Shador even knows that as well. He's not tripping. I'm going to prepare myself so when the opportunity presents itself, the end result looks like the day. The most important stat, that W. That's all that matters. Listen, on the next week. I'll see you Wednesday.

31:20Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you and I have both been in situations. And I know y 'all probably the last guy that y 'all want to hear dating advice from, but we've all had we've all had the young lady. Ocho, she was gorgeous. Drop dead gorgeous. Yeah. Come on. Wait, take your time. She I wanted her so bad. Yes. Yes. But when it didn't work out, I realized the other one. She was the best for me and I needed to give her credit. Because the one that I wanted. Right. It didn't work out. I understand Stefanski won't deal in Gabriel. But you got to understand the guy now is the best for you. And it's going to give you the best opportunity to win because he is unafraid to push the ball down the field.

32:09Shannon Sharpe:Right. Because in this league, that's how you win. Big plays. I just, I don't get it. Ocho, sometimes you got to, like Coach used to tell him, sometimes I got to fool him. sometimes you gotta lie to your team even if you don't like Shadour even if you won't Dylan Gabriel you won't commit I get all that and I get the semantics I get the scheme of it Ocho I want them to prepare for both knowing damn well Dylan Gabriel ain't gonna see that field anytime soon I get all of that but this notion that this thing is even close this notion that this was just a ho-hum performance. Right. The guy got no snaps with the guys that he played with the day until Wednesday of last week.

33:04Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And he does that on the road in a hostile environment. Mm-hmm. And all you got for him is that. Yeah. I mean, that's what it is. And one thing about it, listen, you have to understand, coaches have egos too. The owner has an ego too. The owner and the coach, not in cahoots, but they both wanted their quarterback. They got their quarterback in the third round. Things happen. Things didn't work out. Dylan Gabriel is hurt right now. There is no way in hell they're going to sit on their hands and show the world that they made a mistake. Ain't no way in hell. That's not happening. It happens, Ocho.

33:43Shannon Sharpe:We've all made mistakes. The thing is not making a mistake. Do you learn from it? because remember, Ocho, mistakes without consequences, there's no lesson to be learned. You have to understand how many consequences have they had in the last, what, 40-some years? This is the 45th starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns since 19, I don't even know. 1999. This is the 42nd different starting quarterback. That's 40-some quarterbacks. So obviously they haven't learned their lesson regardless of who the owner is, regardless of who the head coach is, and that's how they see fit. we're going to continue to prove that we made the right pick in the third round by doing goddamn Shadour Sanders somewhat of an injustice.

34:28And what they're trying to do is likely the likelihood is probably going to backfire. It's probably going to backfire and not work in their favor.

34:37Shannon Sharpe:All I'm saying is this. I believe the young man played well enough today to earn another start. No matter what you think about him, whether you like him or dislike him, whether you like his brashness, his arrogance, or his cockiness, or whatever the case may be, I don't know. Whether you like or dislike his father, all I know is he played well enough today. And Chad Cleveland Browns fans, at any point in time, did Dylan Gabriel play in his starts as well as Shadour played today? That's all I'm asking. That's what you have to look at. I have a question. Because the way you judge a starter, Ochoa, I'm not saying a starter can lose.

35:11Shannon Sharpe:They said a starter can't lose his job due to injury. Mike Shanahan said a starter can lose his job because if the guy comes in and he's playing better than you at the time you got injured, that is our new starter. Yeah. I have a question. Yes. I have a question. Before Dylan Gabriel had that concussion, he played six games, right? He played in six games? Yes, to the best of my knowledge, yes. Okay, six games. So, I mean, it would be hard to compare the two based on real-time, real NFL games until we have Shadour play six games as well. See, the point is, Will Stefanski and that organization allow Shadour to continue to play their own game because they don't want him to prove them wrong.

35:53That's what they don't want. That's why I think the game that Stefanski's going to play is he's going to find out if Dylan Gabriel, will he be able to go this week so we're not on the wrong side of being right. wait

36:08Shannon Sharpe:instead of him let him play because maybe he proves you right maybe all of a sudden he flops I don't believe he will I believe the kid had two months moxie I believe that he believes in the way he was brought up and what his dad has instilled in him and he wants to be great not because of his father he's like my father did what he did but he can't throw no passes for me he can't slide the line He can't read anything for me. Everything that I'm getting now is my own. I'm doing this. Should do it, Sanders. And I love my father. I love the last name that he bestowed upon me. But at the end of the day, he can't throw no passes.

36:50You do realize that owner and that head coach don't want to be made to look like a fool by putting 12 out there and having 12 continuously win you games? You do realize that, right? Make me look like a fool and help me get to the playoffs.

37:03Shannon Sharpe:Make me look like a fool and make me be a consistent winner. make me look like a damn fool and maybe potentially get me to the... Man, do you know if Shadou were to get that team into the playoffs, get to the AMC Championship game? I'm not talking about this year. I'm talking about, let's just say in the next five years. If he were to do that and take that team to a Super Bowl, they'll build a statue. Yeah. It'll be Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Shadoua Sanders. You do realize the owner would look like a fool. You do realize the fans keep it look like a fool. They do not want young bulls to succeed.

37:39Shannon Sharpe:Well, the fans think they're a damn fool now to begin with, so it don't matter what you look like. They already think you are. Yeah. Now, all you would do by keeping this going, because sometimes you got to keep your mouth closed because people won't know how big a damn fool you are. But y 'all say, boy, keep your mouth closed sometimes. People might think you're a fool, but if you open your mouth, you'll remove all doubt. Yeah. So the Cleveland fans, they don't hold Mr. Haslam and Stefanski in the highest regards. So there's not a whole lot they can do to change that. Now, if you really want to go booing and carrying on, take the young man out of it.

38:18Shannon Sharpe:Take the young man. Don't let him start next week. Hey, now you know the game needs folk play. You understand. Yeah, I do. You've been around long enough. So for him to have the game he had, right, to not only get a game ball, for Stefanski to get in front of the media and still be noncommittal to who's going to be the starter next week. What does that tell you? We in goddamn week 12. We going into week 13. There's no need to be playing these mind games as if we in goddamn training camp. You don't know who the fucking start. I'm sorry. You don't know who the starter is going to be. It's a game.

38:51It's a game at this point because that's not who you actually want at the helm playing quarterback for your franchise because you don't want to look like a goddamn fool.

38:59Shannon Sharpe:There are very few people. There are very, very few people with the first person that razzed their berry. Wait, who? My grandma said... Hey, bring that to me. Say that to me. There are very few people that are with the person that initially razzed their berry. Don't worry about it. You'll be driving tomorrow and you'll be like, damn, I understand. I ain't never heard that one before. you know don't worry about it but anyway hold on hold on no no you don't skip over me like that give it to me in english now ocho a berry right i know what a berry is juice yeah juice yeah yeah yes yes okay a lot how many people that are married are in a serious relationship right that person that they're in that relationship right that is the first person that piqued their curiosity that is the first person that they love that is the first person that they wanted to be with.

39:57Shannon Sharpe:Okay, so why do you just say that? It's probably the second, third, fourth, fifth. That's what I'm saying. Okay, I got you. I get it. Yeah. So in a situation like that, okay, but you know what? Just for GP, just to endure, unbelievable job. Game ball for you. Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, you do that when it's actually the person you actually want. Yes! That's the difference. You understand? That's it. Hold on, you're using that analogy wrong too, Unc. No, because my grandma used to say You said berry, it's cherry No, raspberry You don't razz my berry Which means he don't excite me Don't worry about it Ocho You'll get it That must be some downside Of course it is I'm saying down here It's more like cherry, the first Pop my cherry You don't razz my berry You don't excite me I like that That's different I get it.

40:55Shannon Sharpe:Shador might not have excited them in the beginning. They was more excited about Dylan Gabriel. Right. But at the end of the day, who makes you wholesome? Who makes your house feel like a home? Right. Who, when you get excited, when you need someone to talk to and say, you know what? I'm going to love you through all those scars. And I know you got a lot of them. But come lay your head on me. And I'm going to make it okay. that's what this young man has the potential of doing give him an opportunity that's what we do because a lot of times I get it we visual man we're very visual if you're a sports you're a big what do I see man he can throw the ball 100 that's why they make so many mistakes at the quarterback position Ocho because what can he do he can throw the ball 80 yards I saw him on one knee throw the ball 60 yards and hit the upright how many times he's going to be on one knee because if he's down on one knee that means he down already so the ball gonna be incomplete.

41:52Shannon Sharpe:With all that being said, a lot of times we get in awe about what we see. Sometimes the aesthetic beauty, long hair, complexion, nice body. Oh, she got degrees stacked on top of the grease. Uh-huh. But sometimes it's what's on the inside is what we can't see. Right. That's the determining factor. Tom Brady ain't had no aesthetics. He couldn't run fast. He couldn't jump high. Yes, sir. He didn't have no arm like Mahomes or Josh Allen, but what you couldn't see made him deadly. See, sometimes we look at the Black Mamba. The Black Mamba is not the most dangerous snake in Africa. It's not as dangerous as the Bloomslang or the Common Brown in Australia or the Western or the Coastal Taipan.

42:47Shannon Sharpe:but he has the name you see the black number now he will attack without provocation most snakes that are venomous they won't attack without provocation that's what makes him so deadly because it is one of the few snakes that will attack without provocation man get that man a damn game ball it ain't your game ball any damn way like you buy no footballs Hey. He got me hot up in here. I see. Hey, don't let your emotions get the best of you because you think you mad right now? You think you mad right now? Wait until Wednesday and watch the games they play. Oh, hey. Wait until Wednesday. You remember that song, L 'Ocho?

43:29Shannon Sharpe:Which one? If you think you're lonely now, wait until the night. If you think I'm mad now, like you say, wait until Wednesday. All right. They're talking about Mary Kay Cabot come out there and say, Dylan Gabriel is taking snaps. Boy, I'll break up everything. I'll tell you one thing. You might as well get to breaking right now. You might as well get to breaking right now because you understand. You understand the NFL. You know the games that they play, especially when an owner has come out at the beginning of the season, excuse me, at the beginning of the season, matter of fact, in training camp, and saying a certain individual is not his draft pick.

44:03He did say that, yes. He came out and said it. So that lets you know already what the play is going to be for the four-silvium future as long as 12 is there.

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49:11Shannon Sharpe:The outcome that everybody expected. The Patriots beat the Bengals by the score of 26 to 20. Mike Grable's New England Patriots became the first NFL team to reach 10 wins. Joe Flacco, Ocho, Chad. Y 'all remember I told Ocho? I said, Ocho, Joe Flacco, he going to start out hot. Right. I mean, he going to be hotter than four foxes in a forest fire. Yeah. but he's a turnover machine nah nah he turned it over one time today he turned listen Pete Fitz hey I know hey listen and you know you know what's funny you know what's funny too hey that DB cheated he wasn't where he's supposed to be you know that he cheated up he stayed up much closer how could you not as a quarterback not see that using your peripheral but it was a two shell instead of instead of going back where he's supposed to be at he's sitting down at the line of scrimmage.

50:04I'm like, man, what is he doing?

50:06Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe. Because guess what? What? He got a little pressure and he threw it late. What happens when you throw late to the flat? Oh, it's going the other way. Every time. Okay. Every time. Yeah, but listen, the Patriots had one hell of a game. They had a good game. Drake made through an interception too. You heard me? I got Drake May. I got Jacoby Brissett. I said, what you call him? I'm not going to get no TD. T. Higgins. Oh, I hit that thing, Jay. Y 'all better be on that prize pick. You made it. JSN, I said JSN going to have at least 94. Got it. I said that. Okay, you said that. Okay, I said Jacoby Brissett was going to have, got that.

50:47Shannon Sharpe:Drake May playing the Bengals, got that. I said Tee Higgins wasn't going to get no touchdown, no count away, because Gonzalez had it. That's because he got hurt. No, but his feelings. Hey, but listen. Well, honestly, well, technically, you know, my team won then, basically. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Talk about what you mean your team. Who your team? You know, I played with the Patriots. No, he played with the Patriots. Y 'all hear this? No. Y 'all hear this, Chad? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. I'm just saying. I played there. I played there. Listen, I played there, you know, towards the end of my career.

51:22I was old as hell, but I played there, you know. You know, I had to kick the tires a little bit, but I was there. Chad.

51:31What's up? Did y 'all hear what this man just said? I'm just saying, it is what it is. It's in the books. You the one been telling me, listen, you play with the Patriots. So I mean, I'm just throwing it out there. I'm still a Bangle fan at heart. I never knew. Yeah, I mean, listen. Honestly, I love everybody, Unc. The Patriots fans. Nah, nah. You told me.

51:54Shannon Sharpe:You told me you play with them Bengals and your heart and your team that you grew up watching the Miami Guppies. That was your two teams. I said, what about you went to the Super Bowl with the Patriots? I ain't playing. I ain't playing. You know I say that because I ain't really do nothing when I was there. I was like decoration. Like Christmas time, you know how your little ornament on the tree? No, the ornament on the tree, he really there but he ain't really got no well doing like the star that's at the top. You feel me? Yeah. My days was really over. I was just out there like okay, this is why they went all the time.

52:27and just having a good time enjoying the ride. I ain't really get to be productive or nothing like that. So I don't really want to claim nothing. I ain't really get no work in.

52:36Shannon Sharpe:You feel me? I sure hope y 'all got on that prize pick or that parlay I had. I sent that thing out there nice for y 'all. I got another one coming for you. Hey, you know what I want to see too, Unc? Now we talk about the Bengals too. Hey, that got them Mitchell Tinsley. Yeah. That got them Mitchell Tinsley, man. Every time, every time, young bull in the game, Unc, he making a play, man. He make plays happen. I need to see him, man, since the preseason when he made that one-handed catch in the end zone. Every time he in a game, he making a play. I'm talking about every time. The day he beat Gonzo, he beat Gonzo.

53:09At the line of swimming.

53:11Shannon Sharpe:I'm talking about setting like, eh, eh, eh. I'm like, ooh. Hey, you know at that position, Ocho, if you stop your feet at the corner, it's over. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. It's over. Yeah, you got to keep your feet alive. You got to keep your feet alive. So I would love to see him get a little bit more burn. T Higgins went out today. Chase is coming back. Yeah, because I think it's over for Burton. I think Jermaine Burton, I think it's over Ojo. You think so? And Sensi. I'm not saying it's over for him in the NFL, but I think it's time's up. I mean, he's another healthy scratch again. They're down to receiver Chase, and they don't get it.

53:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what's going on in that area. You know, I think if I'm not mistaken, I think Chase and T did what they could to take him under his wing. I'm really not in the facility. I don't know the personal things that may be going on, but I know he's an extreme talent. He's an extreme talent. I'm not comparing him to Pickens. I'm just speaking on he has a lot of upside, a lot of potential, and I hope he gets on the right track at some point, even if it's not in Cincinnati, because he can be tremendous. He can be tremendous for some team once you get things going. Ocho, the Ravens beat the Jets.

54:22Shannon Sharpe:Yes, the Ravens have gone from 1-5 start to first place tie in the AFC North, despite Lamar not in his MVP form. Lamar has been held on the 200-yard passing for three straight games for the first time in five years. He also has gone back-to-back games without a touchdown pass for the first time in six years. Lamar was asked if he felt fully himself in the recent weeks and if injuries are holding him and the offense back. He said, I can't call it, but I'm out there, so I feel like I should still be able to do what I do. I feel like we just need to execute a lot better. We're getting great field position, but we're not putting points on the board, and that has nothing to do with no injury.

55:01Shannon Sharpe:One of the biggest changes in the game has been the decrease in rushing. He holds the record for the most rushing yards by a quarterback, and he's averaging a career low 29, less than 30 yards rushing per game. And Derek Henry, they can't, Ocho, normally this is, when you see the Ravens run the ball 34 times, it's normally 200-plus yards. Yes, sir. They ran the ball 34 times a day, less than 100 yards. Yeah. I mean, hey, Unk, listen. It's something weird about this season. It's something weird about this season when it comes to certain teams that we're used to seeing be very dominant, especially offensively.

55:36The Chiefs, it looks weird. It looks very weird. The Baltimore Ravens, it looks weird. You know, even when they were healthy, they started out 0-2, Unk. They started out 0-2. So they really haven't been able to get themselves in a groove before Lamar got hurt. But the fact that they've been able to come back and dig themselves out a hole and Lamar being back now, it gives them a chance no matter what. They will always have a winning chance as long as eight is back there. As long as eight is back there, they're going to be all right. At some point, that offense is going to have to hit their stride.

56:12They're going to have to hit their stride because the defense is playing a little better as opposed to how they look at the beginning. this season.

56:19Shannon Sharpe:Ain't no way in here. I don't want to put too much because they played the chance, Ocho. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

56:31Okay, I got you.

56:33Shannon Sharpe:I mean, they had 26 carries for 76 yards. Yeah. But for the Ravens, Lamar was 13-23. Oh, D-Hop ran a stutter goal so sweet and he threw it out the end zone. Yeah. Did you see? I don't know if you saw that, Ocho. He ran a studder so sweet. Yeah. He missed him. And Lamar missed him. Yeah, I didn't see that play. Hold on. Let me get my charger. Go ahead.

57:07Shannon Sharpe:Lamar was 13-23, 153, no touchdowns, no interception. He was sacked once. Derrick Henry had 21 carries for 64 yards. Again, as I mentioned, they had 34 rush attempts for 98 yards, but they did have two touchdowns. Derrick Henry did get the ball in the end zone twice, but offensively, for something, they seem to be off, and I don't know why.

57:31Well, this is Lamar what? It's only a second? No, it's third week back, right?

57:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's probably about his third week back. Yeah, third week back. I mean, as he goes, the rest of the team goes. So when he gets back into rhythm, and he starts feeling that confidence back again, then I think everything will pick up. Well, it's going to have to.

57:59Shannon Sharpe:Keith beat the Colts for two quarters, including overtime. Chris Jones and the rest of the defense dominated the Colts' offense, which allowed the Chiefs to exit Arrowhead with a much-needed 23-20 comeback victory. After the game, it looked like Mahomes took a shot at the Chiefs coaching staff when he praised Lou Amarulo.

58:20Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, take a listen to what Mahone boy had to say. Yeah. They definitely do some of the stuff. I mean, Coach Anarumo is a great defensive coordinator, a great coach, and he has this stuff. But I think what makes him such a great defensive coordinator is he kind of tailors his team, tailors his scheme to the team that he's playing with. And so he wants to go with their strengths. And so getting their guys in the best position to succeed. And even from some of the trades they made, they've adjusted their defense as well. And so I think that's something that makes him a great coach is that he's not stuck in his ways of how he calls it.

58:53He adjusts his scheme to the team that's around him. And obviously they've done a lot of great things this year.

59:00Shannon Sharpe:If you go back and study, Ocho, if you look at them, what defense has given Patrick Mahomes the most trouble? The Cincinnati Bengals. Bengals, yeah. Who was their coordinator? the guy that's at the end. And you know what's funny? As you think about how difficult the Chiefs and the Bengals games are, how difficult they make it for Patrick Mahomes, and look at what he has to work with over there in Indianapolis. Yes. Supporting cast of players he has to be able to pull off making those games even more difficult as opposed to the Bengals defense, which most consider to be bad in a sense. So, I mean, Jadavius Ward, got them sauces out there, Zaire Franklin, they got a really, really good squad.

59:41Really, really good squad. When Buckner coming back?

59:46Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. There's a possibility he might not come back. No. Not this year. Yeah. Oh, man, he the real, he the real. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the disruptor. He's the guy that you circle says, okay, we got to deal with him. Yeah. But Mahomes almost, almost, you know, I think he was trying to do too much. Mahomes were trying to be Superman of the day, huh? He missed some throws. Hollywood Brown had Sauce Beat bad on the go ball. Yeah. And Mahomes missed it. He had Trav on the uncover quick, and he missed it. Yeah. He had Juju on the over route, and he missed it. Overshot, yeah. So there's opportunities that are there that Mahomes normally wouldn't miss.

1:00:34Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Good thing Rasheed Rice showed up today. Kareem Hunt, look, Kareem's going to get you hard-fought yards. He's not what he was like his rookie his first two years, Ocho. He's not that guy. Right, he was nasty. But he's solid. He's going to get you some hard-fought yards, some hard ones, some hard threes. He'll break a tackle. Good on the goal line. But, Ocho, the problem that they're having is that when they get into the red zone. Ocho, they had a 17-play drive. Settle for three. They had a 14-play drive. Settle for three. had a 13-play drive, settle for three. They had a 14-play drive, settle.

1:01:11Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you know this. Yeah. You kick field goals, you get your ass kicked. Yeah, every time. You score a touchdown. Now you really, really put pressure on an opposing team. That is their problem. The problem is they used to be automatic when they got into the red zone, Ocho. Every time. Hold on. Not only automatic when they got into the red zone, the creativity between Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, it was unbelievable. Remember all the tricks they used to do? all the merry-go-round and doing all, you know, dude, that's not working anymore because now the film is out there. Now the film is out there, so it's a little different.

1:01:43Everything is a little bit more difficult. Hey, you don't want three Super Bowls already. It's the same offense. Everybody's seen almost everything you have to date. So, therefore, it becomes that much more difficult. People were talking, okay, the Chiefs are down. They're 5-5. They're 500 for the first time, and who knows how long. But, again, if you put it. Ocho, keep talking.

1:02:04Shannon Sharpe:My computer's messing up. We finna do so. But do keep going. Keep going. Keep talking about the Chiefs. Okay. Anyway, Chad, listen. I think when it comes to the Chiefs, right, as bad as they've been this year, they're 5-5. Obviously, we're not used to them being 5-5, but they're going to be all right. Anytime you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, anytime you have a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes, he can put that team on his back, similar to what he did today. He almost lost the game a little bit because he was trying to do too much. trying to do too much, trying to be too man, trying to carry the load himself.

1:02:36The commentators talked about it. I'm sure he knows as well, but Rasheed Rice had one hell of a goddamn day today. He was 8 foot. He had what? 8 for 141. Kareem Hunt was 30 for 104. And shoot, that's it. So Chad, it's just me and y 'all right now. Welcome to Nightcap with Ocho. Oh, you still there? Are you back? I'm back. Ocho, here it is right here. Hold on. You good? I got it the rest of the way. Go ahead and chill.

1:03:05Shannon Sharpe:The Chiefs had a 17-play drive, 64 yards, three points. They had a 13-play drive that took 8 minutes and 12 seconds, three points. They had a 10-play drive that 81 yards, three points. Then they fumbled. Then they had an 11-play drive that resulted in a touchdown. And then, Ocho, to end the game, they had a 15-play drive for 87 yards. And at that point in time, they were just trying to get the field goal. And then the field goal to end the game, Ocho, another 12 plays. So that's 12, let's see, 27, 30, 41, 46, 51, 54, 64, 77, 94. They had 96 plays. Let me see in my math because I was quick in my head.

1:04:05Shannon Sharpe:You know, I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm speeding through the things. Let me see. The hell? They had 91. So minus the penalty, they had 91 actual plays. That's crazy. Oh, so you don't normally see that many plays in an NFL game. No, not today. 65-70 is the norm. Yeah, 60-65 is norm. Right. 91 actual call plays? Yeah. That's crazy. Damn. him. Well, what do you think the issue is with the Chiefs? Obviously, not being able to score once they get into the red zone as opposed to how they were automatic before. Okay, they won the Wildcat with Travis Kelsey and then, you know, Johnson pulls the guy's helmet, they call it back.

1:05:04So you got to settle

1:05:05Shannon Sharpe:for a field goal. Right. Whereas before, like you said, the creativity, they were able to get the ball into the end zone. Some razzle-dazzle play, flip it here, there, you know, shovel pass to the tight end, shovel pass to the back. They were always quick screens, get the ball into the end zone. Now it's a struggle once they get inside the 20 because now it's condensed. And so, and they're not getting the home run because you remember, Ocho, remember how they used to complete the big play over the top? Yeah. When they had Tyreek. Now, once they got rid of Tyreek, their offense completely changed because they didn't have anybody that can get over the top.

1:05:43The top, yeah.

1:05:44Shannon Sharpe:So now everything was like ding, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping, ping. And the funny thing about it, even though they had the ping it, and I'm going to call it tiki-taka. They had the tiki-taka all the way down the goddamn field. But because you had Patrick Mahomes, you're still able to have success just doing that because he can make the right decision with the ball and not make mistakes. But see what happens when you play that type of game, Ocho, you've got to be perfect. You see, the thing is, I mean, he tried to go with a quick pass. Guy gets his hands up. He picks it off. Now they got the ball in the one-yard line.

1:06:15Shannon Sharpe:Now that's unfortunate. Yeah, and see, but here's the thing. What did they tell the Mocho? The ball's going to come out quick. So get your hands up. Get your hands up, yeah.

1:06:27Shannon Sharpe:Chiefs' upcoming schedule at Cowboys, Texans at home, Chargers at home, at Titans, Broncos at home, at Raiders.

1:06:40Shannon Sharpe:Schedule again. Thanksgiving at Cowboys. Then there's Sunday night football. They get the Texans at home. Then they got Raiders at home. Then they're on the roll Texans. Excuse me, Titans. Then Christmas, they get the Broncos. and then TVD Raiders. Damn. Well, by that time, the Raiders, everybody be living in the hotel because they be done packing their stuff up. They ready to go, Ocho. Hey, well, honestly, listen, Uncle, if you play in Vegas, there ain't no need to really rush back home if you're in Vegas. Yeah, but you just want to get away, Ocho, because you've been in the grind. You've been here.

1:07:27Shannon Sharpe:I just want to get away. I can always come back, but I'm gone. Right. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you.

1:07:38Shannon Sharpe:The 49ers beat the Panthers 20-9. Christian McCaffrey against the old team that he used to play for that drafted him as the top 10 pick out of Stanford. CMC had 142 yards from scrimmage. He had 89 of those yards, 24 carries, 89 yards, long of 17, one touchdown. He had seven catches for 53 yards. So he's on pace, Ocho, to do something that only he, Roger Craig, and Marshall Falk has ever done. Rush and receive 4 ,000 yards in a single season. All those guys did it once. If McCaffrey stays on the pace that he's on, he'll do it for the second time. So something very, very special, something Bears watching.

1:08:19Shannon Sharpe:Oh, here's the 49ers schedule. at Browns, Titans at home, at Colts, Bears, Seahawks at home. Yeah. So they got a pretty nice schedule. They got what is that? 12-22. So that's a Monday night. They got the Colts on Monday night football. And then they followed that up NBC at 5-20 games. So that's a Sunday night game. So but this game, Ocho, ooh, pretty. Purdy was pretty awful listen not only was Purdy awful though he threw interceptions in the first half JC Horn played out his goddamn mind the defense played out his goddamn mind and the Panthers offense it failed us tonight the Panthers offense failed us tonight I'm not sure what was wrong with Bryce Young and T.

1:09:10McMillan and some of the receivers Jimmy Horn but they were off their communication this far into the season you shouldn't be having mental errors like that or mistakes mistakes like that especially in the pass the game because he's throwing the players that are running one route and the players are going a completely different way. So a lot of players would miss down on the goal line. Bryce, there was no need to throw that ball, but you got nothing but green grass in front of you.

1:09:37Shannon Sharpe:But Ocho, even if he throw, the thing is, you know when you roll out, Ocho, you cut half the field off. So now they're flowing. They know first of all, down there, Ocho, you're not going to throw it all the way back, pylon, you're rolling to your right. You've got to release that ball. You don't have to take a full roll because the further you roll, the field gets condensed more and more condensed. That's why the guy at the front side was able to fall off because you brought the bright side tight end to him. You got to throw that ball earlier. Or you're going to run out of real estate. He didn't even have to throw the ball at all.

1:10:09Oh, you wanted to go ahead and run it in, huh? Nothing but green grass in front of him. Nothing but green grass in front of him. Obviously, his eyes were locked in on the receiver and in the back of the end zone. outside of that. This wasn't Panther football tonight. This is not the Carolina Panthers that we've been watching that have won the last five of their last seven games. They lost one tonight, but it wasn't good. The defense did what they needed to do. Offense left a lot of points, a lot of plays out there on the field.

1:10:43Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I thought Carolina got away from the running game a little bit too early. They didn't have the ball a whole lot. What looked like they had the ball, 42 total plays. That's not a whole lot. But when you look at it, Ocho, I think the thing is that, let's talk the 49ers first. Yeah. Jennings, when you run that over route, if you gain ground, you're going to allow that cornerback to jet it or undercut you. And that's what he did. The dig route. The dig route. Yes. Ocho, you can't run that. No. If you run that route like that, if you gain ground, he going to jump right up under you. Especially somebody like J.C.

1:11:23Horn. J.C. Horn. Someone that is as sound as him. He has good eyes, good discipline. And he going to play. He going to stay on your inside hip every time. Yes. Not only did he run. He rounded about damn near four or five yards.

1:11:37Shannon Sharpe:I'm like. You got to keep him. Because once I got him there, Ocho, I got to keep him on my hip. Yeah. Because if I let him up underneath on that square end. That's what it's called. It's a square in. Square out, square in. So on that square in, Ocho, I got to keep him on my hip. Because if I give him any leeway, he's going to undercut it, or he might grab me and slingshot himself. Grab me by my waist, pull himself forward, and now he's right there up underneath the throat. And you know another thing that a lot of receivers need to get out of doing too, Unc? When they get to the top of them routes, they doing all that wiggle.

1:12:13They do that wiggle instead of just getting up to your point and just snapping that thing off. When you play against a good corner, I'm talking about the good ones, and when you do that wiggle, all they do is they stop their feet. So if they stopping their feet and you sitting there wiggling. He going to drive on it.

1:12:29Shannon Sharpe:Let me ask you a question, Ocho. You can't do that with the good DBs. Let me ask you a question. You run a goal ball like that? No. So you get it 10 yards, and now all of a sudden you're doing this on the goal ball. No. It's got to look the same. Every time. Everything got to be. Even if you don't run full speed, give the illusion. Give the illusion that you are running full speed. Get the way you got to and snap that thing of all them tricks and all that. It works on your average corners. But when you go against the best, the better DBs, the JC Horns, the past obtained, the Denzel Awards, you're not pulling that off.

1:13:02They're going to jet that. Any indication you give them, they're stopping their feet and they're driving.

1:13:08Shannon Sharpe:Yes. Because that's the indicator you get. I mean, you know, you're taught to give an indicator to your quarterback, but you're also giving an indicator to the DB also. McMillan, there's a reason why we say you to keep your arms tight. You see how he got his arms out? What did that DB do, Ocho? Tug him. Where he would have been, he hit 27 right in the chest. That's why they tell you to keep your arms tight. Because they grabbing anything, Ocho. Yeah, always. Always. They going to grab. And they're not going to call it every goddamn time. They're not going to call it. They're not going to call it.

1:13:40Shannon Sharpe:But this was a really sloppy game. I was surprised how sloppy the game was. Purdy did not look good tonight. 23 of 32, 193, one touchdown, three interceptions. That was just awful. That was just awful. His defense bailed him out because they got the turnover, and then Bryce Young comes right back and gives it right back to them. Look, Carolina really has very small margin for error because they're such a young team. and they don't have top five talent at any position on the offensive side of the football. So with that being said, you can't do what they did tonight. You can't turn that ball over like that on the road.

1:14:21No, you can't. You can't, especially not with the way the defense is playing. You can't keep putting the defense out there on the field, putting them in harm's way. Obviously, when they're getting stops, you're getting the ball, you had to turn them. They got three points off of three turnovers. They got three points off of three turnovers. You got to get more than that because they give you the ball back and give you the opportunity to not put the game away, but at least extend the lead enough to have a chance on the back end.

1:14:48Shannon Sharpe:And they give you short fields. Very short, yes. You got to get something. You got to get something more than that. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you're only going to get three out of each one. Okay, that's nine points. But you got to come away with three turnovers. You got to come away with more than three points. Something. You got to. It'll be nice if you catch one of those guys in for a tud, but three points. And like I said, I just didn't, I thought they ran, I don't think they ran the ball enough. I mean, you got Dowdle back there. You got Chuba Hubbard. Run the football.

1:15:18Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And I know you're probably thinking about, well, you know, they don't have those pass rushers. They don't have Bosa. You know, Warner's not in there. There's some things that we can take advantage of. They don't have the most outstanding corners. Run the football. Yeah. Run the football. That is your friend when you're on the road. You need to run the football. But the 49ers, look, the 49ers keep their – they got to stay attached to the Rams and the Seahawks. Eight and four right now, so that's when they leap over Detroit. Right. For the seventh seed, now Detroit falls back to the eighth seed.

1:15:57Shannon Sharpe:Damn. But they haven't had their bye yet. I think Detroit's had their bye. Haven't Detroit had their bye?

1:16:05Shannon Sharpe:Because Detroit's 7-4.

1:16:13Shannon Sharpe:So, that means they had a bye already. Because the 49ers haven't had their, that's why they're 12.

1:16:27Shannon Sharpe:They're like, we might as well go ahead and run this thing all the way through. But, yeah, it was a sloppy game, Ochoa. I expected the 49ers to be a lot crisper than what they were. Hell, I thought Bryce Young, considering what he had done, I mean, what, that 4-4, who was that again? The Falcons? Yeah, they were down 14 and came back. Yeah, and so he had started to play really well. I really like McMillan's game. McMillan is really good. He can really, really play Ocho, and he's only going to get better. He's doing this in his rookie season, so I can just imagine in two or three years what he's going to be like.

1:17:00Shannon Sharpe:Hell, who knows? He might even take a leap like JSN did. Now, I'm not saying, look, that's – I'm not saying that's going to happen, but he's on pace to have over 2 ,000 yards on 125 catches. So, he's doing – and he's in that zone right now. I just want to – because, Ochoa, you know when you've got a special season going. Yeah. Everything just seems to go your way. Everything. You catch every deep ball, a carom, you catching. Everything just is just zen. It's just perfect. Yeah.

1:17:35Shannon Sharpe:What happened?

1:17:41Shannon Sharpe:McCaffrey? Oh, that's why they was fighting, huh, at the end of the game. Oh, okay.

1:17:50Shannon Sharpe:Oh, man. What happened? Jennings. That's why they was fighting at the end of the game, but DB punched him in the foul pole. Oh, I missed that. I missed that. Yeah, yeah. That's why at the end of the game? Yeah. I was setting it up. Oh, that's going to cost him a fight. I mean, that's going to probably cost him like$25 ,000,$50 ,000. Well, hold on. What kind of fight? We talking about like a little shoving match? Well, he punched him. Jennings was blocking him, and he bowed. Okay. So at the end of the game, they got into a little tussle. But you know they got cameras, so they see all that. The refs might have not caught it, but them 22 cameras they got, they caught it.

1:18:29Shannon Sharpe:They going to see it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So don't even, hey, save your time. Hey, that Tuesday that you was going to call in to appeal that, go golfing. Don't even waste your time. Yeah, yeah, go golfing because it ain't going to help. But, yeah, this was a game I thought would be a little better. It wasn't clean. I mean, what, you get five total turnovers. Sloppy game. Sloppy game. But the 49ers win, moved to 8-4. Carolina 6-6. San Fran 20. Carolina 9

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