In short
Best-of NFL Week 14 discussion focused on Kansas City’s struggles vs Houston, and Cleveland’s controversial late-game decisions with rookie QB Shedeur Sanders.
Guests/backgrounds
The episode is hosted by two former NFL players/commentators (Ocho and Unk/“Joe” speaking throughout). No guest bios are provided in the transcript.
Key claims
- Chiefs are “descending” after losing 20-10; Patrick Mahomes was 14-of-33 for 160 yards, 3 interceptions, no TDs, and was sacked twice.
- Houston’s defense “won the game,” pressuring Mahomes and exposing the secondary after Trent McDuffie left.
- Kansas City’s offense was one-dimensional because they couldn’t run; the hosts argue KC needs a premium between-the-tackles back (they mention A-Chan, Jamal Charles archetype).
- Cleveland’s QB Shedeur Sanders had a historic game, but Stefanski allegedly removed him and went for two points twice, which the hosts call nonsensical and potentially harmful to winning.
Notable examples
- Texans: forced turnovers (Mahomes picked twice in the second half), 8-5 record, and staying within a game of Jacksonville.
- Browns: Sanders first Browns QB since 1950 with 300+ passing yards, 3 passing TDs, and a rushing TD; Stefanski’s two-point conversion decisions criticized.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOChiefs vs. Texans Game Breakdown
3:59 to 7:52
Analysis of the Texans' victory over the Chiefs and Mahomes' performance.
“The Houston Texans beat the Kansas City Chiefs by the score of 20-10.”
Chiefs' Offensive Struggles
7:55 to 14:00
Discussion on the Chiefs' offensive issues and potential solutions.
“Now you're going with an undrafted left tackle against Daniil Hunter and Will Anderson Jr.”
Discussing Running Back Needs
14:00 to 17:51
The hosts analyze the need for a strong running back in the NFL teams discussed.
“he tore his ACL, but before he tore his ACL, he was fast.”
Discussing Running Back Needs
18:11 to 19:38
The hosts analyze the need for a strong running back in the NFL teams discussed.
“Not all varieties available in all geographies.”
Discussing Running Back Needs
19:46 to 21:41
The hosts analyze the need for a strong running back in the NFL teams discussed.
“She says he's a, quote, very strange man.”
Analyzing Shadour's Performance
22:42 to 28:07
The hosts discuss the impact of Shadour's game performance and coaching decisions.
“Oh, Joe, the Titans beat the Browns, but Shadour joined a very historic club during his third NFL start.”
Analysis of Coaching Decisions in Critical Moments
28:07 to 41:30
Discussion on the questionable coaching decisions during a critical game situation involving Shadour.
“to have him in there and give them that spark to where now, in each game, they're competing.”
Analysis of Coaching Decisions in Critical Moments
42:01 to 43:16
Discussion on the questionable coaching decisions during a critical game situation involving Shadour.
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Analysis of Coaching Decisions in Critical Moments
43:24 to 43:46
Discussion on the questionable coaching decisions during a critical game situation involving Shadour.
Eagles vs Chargers: Game Recap
46:28 to 51:39
Analysis of the Eagles' overtime loss to the Chargers, highlighting Jalen Hurts' performance.
“The Chargers defeat the Eagles by the score of 22 to 19 in overtime.”
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Defensive Breakdown: Eagles' Performance
51:40 to 56:00
Discussion on the Eagles' defensive performance against the Chargers.
“And obviously they would have, being that San Diego got a field goal in the first overtime.”
Eagles' Performance Analysis
56:00 to 1:01:50
Analyzing the Eagles' recent performances and their defensive struggles.
“Remember a couple of years ago, they got off to that great start, and then they crash landed?”
Green Bay vs. Chicago: Game Insights
1:01:50 to 1:07:26
Discussion about the recent Green Bay vs. Chicago game and player performances.
“Green Bay has beaten the Lions twice and the Bears once so far this season.”
Seahawks' Dominance Over Falcons
1:07:26 to 1:10:02
Examining the Seahawks' strong performance against the Falcons and player highlights.
“And when you have that kind of speed, Ocho, you know you're going to normally have hamstring problems.”
Analyzing the Seahawks' Strengths
1:10:02 to 1:11:15
Discussing the quality of the Seahawks' team and their strengths.
“They're going to be a tough out because they can run the football.”
Analyzing the Seahawks' Strengths
1:11:16 to 1:12:49
Discussing the quality of the Seahawks' team and their strengths.
“Not all varieties available in all geographies.”
Transcript
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3:59The Houston Texans beat the Kansas City Chiefs by the score of 20-10.
4:05Shannon Sharpe:Patrick Mahomes threw three interceptions as Kansas City playoffs hopes continue to fade. He was 14-33, under 50 % completion, only 160 yards. No touchdowns. Three interceptions. Was sacked twice. He didn't get much help from his receiving core. Tyquan Thornton dropped a touchdown. Travis Kelsey dropped two plays on that final drive, Ocho, and then one of them got picked. Rasheed Rice dropped a huge fourth down. He got lit up. Petrie, I think that thing kind of jarred him a little bit. I don't think he was all the way back, Ocho, because Petrie dropped the boom on him. He did. He dropped the boom on him.
4:41Shannon Sharpe:He was totally relaxed. But the Texans did an unbelievable job. They got after the quarterback tonight, and they forced him to shut down. I mean, they had 20. But Mahomes was the lead rusher with seven carries for 59 yards. But, Ocho, watching this game and you see the Houston Texans and what they were able to do, they go in the arrowhead, they get this victory, stay attached to the Jacksonville Jaguars who lead that division. They needed this victory in order to try to gain some footing, get into the playoff hunt, and potentially chase down the Jags. But what did you like about what you saw from the Houston Texans?
5:15Listen, the Texans got it done. What I didn't like, obviously, they didn't make enough adjustments for me, especially offensively. Once Trent McDuffie went out, you knew that Spagnola had to bring pressure. Now, with them bringing pressure, I got tired of seeing CJ Stroud run for his life, and they make no adjustments offensively. Obviously, I would think if you know they're blitzing every time, stop running plays where the plays take long to develop. Just go quick game. If anything, do things, you know, misdirection. Get them going one way and come back the opposite way with something else. But just seeing TJ Stroud run for his life, but they were able to make some plays, Unk, even with that pressure, and the back end was exposed.
5:56Obviously, that's going to happen once you do blitz. And outside of that, the defense won that game. The defense for the Houston Texans won that game for them. I'm not sure what's wrong with the Kansas City Chiefs. They lost, what, four of the last fives or something like that. They just don't look the same. Obviously, they have a great run. They've had a great run, and probably even though they have 15, who probably is arguably one of the greatest, if not maybe the second greatest quarterback of all time, this year just hasn't been it for them at all. Everyone is healthy now offensively. Everyone is healthy now offensively, and they let Packham Homes down.
6:32Rasheed Rice, Hollywood Brown, he made some plays. Kelsey, he looks almost like a shell of himself. He does.
6:39Shannon Sharpe:He didn't play well. It's cold, though, Joe. when you're old and it's cold, don't you, man? Nah, that ain't no excuse. You have to adapt to the elements. You got to adapt to the elements. How you doubt to get old?
6:55Shannon Sharpe:There's a reason why old people move to Florida and Arizona. Hold on, hold on. We've been catching footballs all our life. We ain't been 36 all our life. We ain't been 37 all our life. We ain't been 40 all our life. Listen, listen to me. Listen to me real quick. All you need is your eyes and your hands. That's all it comes down to. You could be 60 years old, your eyes and your hands. That don't never fail you, regardless of how old you get. But the Houston Texans, that goddamn defense, boy, they can get after the quarterback. They got their back end. Their back end, man. The boys play very well.
7:28They play very well. So I'm glad to see the Texans win. They've won the last four of their last five games. So it seems like they're ascending right now while the Kansas City Chiefs are descending.
7:37Shannon Sharpe:They are. Like I said, Tyquan Thornton had a touchdown in his hands. He dropped that. Great play to not give up by Lassiter to continue to fight all the way through the catch. Yes. Rasheed Rice had a couple of drops. Travis had a couple of drops. We know that. The offensive line is beat to hell. The left tackle comes in and he gets out. Now you're going with an undrafted left tackle against Daniil Hunter and Will Anderson Jr. That's not a recipe for success, but I thought he played really, really well tonight. The offensive line is not, you know, their best. I mean, think about it. Your starting left tackle is out.
8:14Shannon Sharpe:Your backup left tackle is out. You're starting all pro right guard. He's out. You're starting right tackle. He's out. So think about it. You're down. You're probably down to your backups to your backups. And at some point in time, you keep saying next man, next man up, next man up. Well, the next man up needs to be making the equivalent of the guy that he's replacing. because if you say I got a guy that's making$15 million and then you bring a guy in$400 ,000, there's a reason why one guy's making$15 million, Ocho. There's a reason why one guy's making$400 ,000. So we've got this notion, oh, man, next man up, next man up.
8:47Shannon Sharpe:There's a reason why he was down to begin with. Yeah, yeah. I disagree with the call to Andy May because points are the premium. At this point in time, the score is 10-10. We're late in the ball game, Ocho. I'm going to punt the ball because at that point in time, the Texans hadn't done anything in the second half. I think they might have had 50 yards in the second half. For the longest time, they were negative yards. Kansas City's defense had honed in. Spags had done a great job of dialing it up, stopping the run on first down, getting after C.J. Stroud, getting him off his mark. In that situation, I disagree with Andy, and I don't like to disagree with Andy because I think he's one hell of a coach, and his resume speaks for itself.
9:26Shannon Sharpe:But in a game like this where points are at a premium, I don't want to do an empty – if they do nothing offensively, they're in field goal range. Yeah. I can't make that call, Ocho. I got to punt this ball away. I understand I got Patrick Mahomes, and I understand he wants to go up, go for it, go for it. Every quarterback is going to want to go hell. He's going to want to go for it on fourth and 10, fourth and 12. Right. But sometimes you got to use your better – you got to use your judgment. And like, you know what? Let's punt this ball. Let's make – let's force them to make a mistake. Let's not give them a gift.
9:58Shannon Sharpe:And I felt that's what they did, and that was really the difference in the ball game. But like I said, these guys, I mean, Mahomes was a little off. I mean, he had great – that's a hard play to defend, and you and I talked about it. With a running back, you see Marks, he caught a touchdown. He pretended like he was going to block. He slipped out. CJ flips it to him because that's the guy that has it manning. Well, he's coming on a blitz. I ain't standing there to block him. I'm just going to slip him and get to the flats. You see the guys, a lot of times those tight ends will be on the line they helping, helping.
10:29Shannon Sharpe:Everybody's sinking. Now they drift out. The only thing I would tell North Ray, keep it up the field. Why are you going to get a headache? Did you see that linebacker drifting that way? Now Mahomes threw a terrible pass. I would prefer you leak up the field and give yourself some room so you don't run into that headache that's in that middle linebacker that's waiting on you. To make a long story short, and I know I made a short story long, the Chiefs aren't getting very good this year. No, absolutely. You're not. And honestly, Mahomes, he was 14 for 33. He had three interceptions. He only threw for 160 tonight.
11:04Xavier Worthy had 355. If I'm not mistaken, he might have been their leading receiver. The fact that Patrick Mahomes was a leading rusher, that's not going to win you many games. That's not going to win you many games. You have to have some type of balance. They were one-dimensional tonight for the simple fact that they couldn't run the ball. They haven't been able to run the ball all season long, honestly.
11:21Shannon Sharpe:And that's why, Joe, I felt that they should have gave up the second-round pick or maybe even the first-round pick for A-Chan. Yeah. Because is there a back that's coming out in the draft that you believe that's better than A-Chan that can run the ball between the tackles, can hit his head on the goalpost, can catch the ball out of the backfield? Because, I mean, Pacheco, I mean, Lord, have mercy. He get a hold. He runs right up the lineman's back. I'm like, bro, what are you doing? You look, yeah. And Kareem, he I'm glad to see him back, but he's basically a power back. He's a three yard in the cloud of dust guy.
11:52Shannon Sharpe:He's not a guy that you can consistently give the ball to and you hope to him to break something big. That's not what he is right now. He's a two - to three-yard carry guy. That's what he is, Ocho. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's a place for that guy that you know he can get you very, very tough yards. The initial, the first guy normally doesn't bring him down, but they need playmakers. They need guys that can help Patrick Mahomes out because at this juncture, he can't do – I mean, he can't do any more than what he's doing. He can't. He can't. Yeah, I mean – Guys got to make plays, and when you're quarterbacking – that's the thing.
12:26Shannon Sharpe:when your quarterback isn't playing well, you need guys that can step up and make plays. And he didn't get any help tonight. Yeah. No, he didn't. And the playmaker that we're speaking of, honestly, Unk, I think as far as the receivers are concerned, I think they're set there. But Patrick Mahomes has to stop running the ball so much. They need a premium back. Yeah, they do. I felt that. When I think about Brees Hall, I think Brees Hall might have had a chance to go there before the deadline for trades. that would have been perfect for them. That would have been perfect for them. So a running back like a Jameer Gibbs, I'm saying, I'm not saying there's another Jameer Gibbs out there.
13:03A-Chan. But somebody like that. Yeah, A-Chan. A running back like that that can actually hit his head off the goalpost from anywhere, and every time he does get the ball, you have the chance that something could happen. You know, that takes some of the pressure off of Mahomes, not having to do so much with his arm all the time and always having to be Superman and make the plays that he's making.
13:21Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, because the thing is, Ocho, sometimes, you know, in the West Coast system, the short passing game is an extension of the run. They need the run. They don't need an extension of the run. They need to be able to run the football. And right now they can't. Now the offensive line is beat to hell. And we understand that because, you know, your right tackle is out. Your left tackle went out. The guy that replaced him went out. So now you're down to your third guy at tackle who's an undrafted free agent. Now your right guard is out. Now you're down to your backup at right guard. So it's tough. It's tough.
13:52Shannon Sharpe:It's really tough. Go ahead. Yeah. I have a question. I don't know why his name is slipping my mind right now. The running back that used to play for the Kansas City Chiefs, he tore his ACL, but before he tore his ACL, he was fast. Jamal Charles? Jamal Charles. That's what they need. They need another Jamal Charles or somebody like that. I mean, man, listen, Jamal get that ball. If he hit that edge and get to that second level, the fat lady might as well sing. They need something like that. There's nothing like that in the draft. I don't think so either. So whoever and whatever they do get, it has to be an offseason acquisition.
14:27I have a good one for you right now. I think they need to do whatever they need to do in the offseason. They need to go get Alvin Kamara. Nah. They need to go get him.
14:37Shannon Sharpe:Nah, not at this juncture of his career. Too many catches, too many carries on that body. He's not that guy anymore, Ocho. He's serviceable, but he's not that, Ocho. No. Brees Hall. He's much easier. He's much better than what they have right now. But that ain't saying nothing, Ocho. Joe, you need a guy that you can really depend on. He's breaking down in New Orleans. Do you realize how many touches he has on his body? Yeah, yeah, I know. You realize how many touches Derrick Henry has on his body? Yes. Look what he did last year. He's not the same this year, and maybe that's because he's not getting the same opportunities as he got last year.
15:19Shannon Sharpe:Me personally, Ocho, I think they need a little bigger back. No, they got Kareem Hunt. They don't need a bigger back. Ocho, stop it. Ocho, come on now. We love Kareem. We appreciate him coming on. Okay, wait a minute. You said a bigger back, but a bigger back doesn't do so much. A brief haul. They need that type of back. A guy that's big can run with power and run with speed. Okay, okay, okay. I see you going. Everybody, look, Jameer Gale, but they also have David Montgomery. You look at Green Bay. They got a two-back system. Josh Jacobs and they got a 23. I can't get his name off the top of my head.
15:53Shannon Sharpe:Look at the 49ers. Brian Robinson Jr., Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, Christian McCaffrey, yeah. So the backs need to – they've got to do some soul searching. They really do. And I thought Kansas City defense played really well tonight. They weren't – I mean, there were some times that they got through and they couldn't get CJ on the ground, and he made some plays. But see, that's what happens. When you bring pressure and you sacrifice your back end because, you know, Once McDuffie went out, they're okay back there, but they're not great. No. They make their hay when that pressure can get there. If the pressure don't get there, guys are going to be running open.
16:35Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You know what the bad thing about it is? It's for Spags having to make the adjustments with Trent McDuffie going out. When you do bring that pressure, McDuffie can lock down one side. He doesn't need any help. So you can bring all that pressure from the opposite side of the field knowing that Trent McDuffie's going to take care of his side. But once he goes out, hey, you're backing and basically exposed, which is why C. Dishrao was able to make some of those plays despite him having to run for his life most of the goddamn time. You're right. You're right. But look, it's one of those years.
17:07Shannon Sharpe:This is what the Texans defense did in the second half. They picked Mahomes off twice. I mean, he went like, what, nine straight passes. The passes were either incomplete or they were intercepted. 28.6 completion percent rate, and they had almost a 42 % win rate. And when you look at it, the Houston Texans are now 8-5. They're in the eighth seed behind the Chargers, but they're game back at Jacksonville. And they got three of their last four games are at home. They really do control their own destiny. Copenhagen spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks.
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22:49Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Joe, the Titans beat the Browns, but Shadour joined a very historic club during his third NFL start. He's the first Browns quarterback with 300 pass yards, three touchdowns and a rush touchdown in the same game since 1950. He's also the seventh rookie in the Super Bowl era to throw for 360 yards, have four total touchdowns, rush or pass in the same game, joining C.J. Stroud, Joe Burrow, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Andrew Luck, and Matthew Stafford. But despite got me frustrated because I'm madder than a wet hornet, Stefanski took him out with the game on the line. Ocho, what I don't understand, when you're down 14, you score a touchdown, you're at home, why are you going for two?
23:39Shannon Sharpe:Kick the PAT and guess what, Ocho, you're down seven. Now you score a touchdown and kick the PAT, guess what, Ocho, we tied. Yeah, I mean, honestly, there's no explanation behind what Stefanski is doing. There's none at all. But what I can tell you is I can tell you that his job is secured, which is why he's making the calls that he's making. There's no reason. You got six minutes left in the game. Shadur goes down. Shadur goes down, and he scores. Why go for two, Ocho? Tell me. I need somebody to offer me an explanation. When you're down 14, you're at home. Even if you're on the road, you're down an even number.
24:21Shannon Sharpe:Why would you go for two? because now you're chasing points. You don't need to do that. Hold on. For one, as well as he was playing, look at the numbers he put up today. As well as he was playing all game long, right? You want to put the ball in your best player's hands that has a hot hand at the right time. Who is that? It's your door. So if you are going to go for two, if you're going to make that decision to go for two, you put the ball in your quarterback's hands who just drove you down, not once but twice on back-to-back drives to get you a chance to win the game or at least tie the game.
24:55I think I was so confused by this. I had to make two phone calls. I had to make two phone calls to people who have been head coaches before just to make sure I can get a better understanding and get a better perspective and context on what was being made. But obviously, even though they're not coaching anymore right now, even though they're not a part of the NFL right now, the answers they gave me were PC. so they wouldn't give me what I really want to hear and I'm not going to say any names but Stefanski I can't say anything about him being fired because this is the reason why they didn't want Shadour starting in the first place because now you see what he's capable of because everybody said if he just started
25:35Shannon Sharpe:at the beginning of the season what could we have been I mean this is exactly why they didn't want him starting this is exactly why he wouldn't get any reps because they understood what you would get once he gets in there and he gets acclimated to the system with his players and he gets any kind of chemistry and continuity with that offense. This is what you get. And the stuff you pull in after you score and taking them out, this is not college. You're not running trick plays. You're not going to fool anybody. The Wildcat is not going to work. This is not 2007. Ronnie Brown ain't back there. They're trying to run the Wildcat.
26:10Shannon Sharpe:They're trying to run the Wildcat. Look, the reason why the Dolphins ran the Wildcats is because their quarterback wasn't any good. You got a competent quarterback that's playing his ass off. I felt that he made probably one mistake tonight, Ocho, is that when he threw the ball up down the middle of the field, when he was playing so well that he didn't really need to do that. And that's why I let you do it. You're playing so well, you know you're not supposed to just heed the ball up down the middle of the field. Other than that, Ocho, I thought this young man played extremely well. He was balling his ass off.
26:39Shannon Sharpe:Throw it with touch. Did you see the one he dropped down in the bucket? Oh, man, he dropped it in the bucket. Yeah. The pros that he had that he was giving Fannin Jr., the one he had to touch, the Jerry Judy that he hit for 60, that basically was the same play that he missed that he overshot him the game before. But he hit him this time. And I'm glad him and Judy got on that same page this week. I was happy to see that. But that goddamn Fannin Jr., boy, he's the real deal. He making plays. Every goddamn week, 44 popping up on film. You see that? Every week, 44 popping up on film. I don't know what they got.
27:16I don't know what kind of chemistry. I don't know if they stay after practice and they work together. But every time the ball is in the air, he got to have it. He got to have it.
27:24Shannon Sharpe:I agree. Hey, what about the touch pass that he threw? He was treating and threw the touch pass to Joku. Oh, yeah. I mean, he has things that you just can't teach. No, no, you can't. He has things that you can't teach. And the funny thing about it. Go ahead. Make your point. No, I was going to say what he lacks in mobility, he makes up in so many other areas when it comes to when it comes to being able to extend plays, being able to play off script, being able to being able to be accurate, being able to be accurate, you know, on the run. He's phenomenal at that. And the fact that he looks as good and only his third star, as bad as the Cleveland Browns team is not defense team is offensively.
28:07to have him in there and give them that spark to where now, in each game, they're competing. Yes. They're competing week in and week out.
28:14Shannon Sharpe:And he's playing through his bull-jive coach. Hey, matter of fact, maybe we can ask the chat, even if you don't like Shadour, even if you don't like the Browns, can you please give me an explanation in the chat why you take him out two drives, back-to-back, with opportunity to get closer and put points when points are a premium. in a situation like this where you want to win a game. You would think the fans would want to win the game, but some of the play calls you have in situations like that, you're putting your team in harm's way. Yeah, for me, it's the taking him out, going to the Wildcat when your best player, you know, he needs to be on the field.
28:56Shannon Sharpe:But what I don't understand, I need somebody to explain to me why did he go for two points on the first time they scored a touchdown. That's what I need to understand. Because at that point in time, Ocho, you don't need it. You don't need it. You don't. And then, so let me get this up. So now we're down eight because we were done. I don't know what happened. Maybe Eagle had a rock and he dropped it on Stefanski's head. I don't know what happened. But so now we got to go for two. So we're going to take Shadour out and we're going to run wildcat. And the guy forgetting to pitch the ball.
29:37Shannon Sharpe:I'm thinking he was supposed to pitch it, Ocho. Yeah, he was supposed to pitch it. He was supposed to come around. And I guess he was going to throw it. I guess somebody else was going to go out for a pass. I guess. I guess. I guess. I mean, at this point in time, Ocho, we just like everybody else, we had a loss for words. I'm confused. The only way as a head coach, this is how I know a job isn't in jeopardy. This is how I know a job isn't in jeopardy. because when your job is in jeopardy, you call plays that are conducive for you to look good as a head coach. And with a quarterback playing as well as he was playing, even if it wasn't Shador, a quarterback that has a high hand like he had that game.
30:19You're not taking him out. No, you're not taking him out because your job is on the line.
30:23Shannon Sharpe:You're not taking him out. Your job is on the line. I need to do everything I can to show management and those that are in positions of power who can make the call on whether I stay or go. That's coming from up top, huh? Matter of fact, we can't even blame the coach. This is the same situation. Who's the reason? Who took the fall for Luka getting traded again? Nico. Stefanski is basically Nico. Stefanski is basically Nico Collins. He's taking all the heat. But the call is coming from up above. You gotta. Listen, do whatever you need to do. Do whatever you need to do to make him look bad. Because there's no real.
30:59Why are you not trying to win? Are you trying to tank purposely? Are you trying to make your team look bad purposely? because that's exactly what you're doing because you have every Cleveland Brown fan, every football fan, scratching your head about the decision-making you're making as a head coach.
31:12Shannon Sharpe:I've had people reach out to me and ask me. They don't even really know football like that. Say, why they take Shadua out? Because they say, I'm going to ask you because I know you know you played the game, you watched the game, you studied the game. I say, I don't know. They're like, you know something. I'm like, damn, I ain't in Cleveland. I don't know. Hell, if I do, I tweet it. It needs to be studied. They need a DOJ, Department of Justice. I need y 'all to open up an investigation in what the hell is going on in Cleveland. What the hell is Stefanski doing? It makes no sense. Even if you want to run the wildcat, considering that your quarterback is playing at a heat on fire.
31:58Shannon Sharpe:He's hotter than four foxes in a forest fire. That's how hot he is, Ocho. and you take him out, you take him out to – think about this, Ocho. You take him out to have somebody else throw a pass? Because that's what it looked like. If you was going to flip it to him, what was he going to do? Run it or he was going to run and put up and throw a – pull up and throw a pass? So that's what I did to know. Listen, he was going to throw it to somebody. If Junkers, it flipped the ball like it was supposed to. Obviously, misdirection. You know how well misdirection works. when you're playing against the defense, that's extremely aggressive.
32:32Yes. Extremely aggressive. You're hoping somebody misses assignment and a back or a receiver or a tight end, you know, leaks out and he's wide open. But it didn't happen. It didn't work that way. I want the ball to the door. But the fact that you even –
32:45Shannon Sharpe:I don't care. I'm going to go down and look. Hey, you brought me this far. You brought me this far. Yeah. if this is as far as you can take us well you fought us farther than I was yeah I don't get it I just told you here's what Stefanski said about going for two that last two point conversion let's take a listen to what he had to say yes sir
33:19Shannon Sharpe:what was supposed to happen on that last two point conversion not going to get into all the specifics Jeff but obviously did not go as we thought it would. Did you make that call or did Tommy? Yeah, I make every call. I make every call. Why would you take him off? Again, it's a two-point play. Didn't come through on our first two-point play. Got to the second two-point play. We didn't come through, but that's on me. Was that play call yours or Thomas? I'm responsible for all of it. No, I thought you turned over play calling duties. Now, it's been reported. Mary-Kate, I need you to call. I need you to let us know.
33:54Shannon Sharpe:jump in the chat because it was reported that he turned the play calling over the time he reached right isn't that the oc so i i know everything's on you and you don't want to get into it get into it what went into your thinking that when shador sanders had led you back from 14 down he had led you back what made what went into the decision to take him off the field and potentially have someone else throw a two-point conversion what went into your decision coach hold on hold on not only have someone else throw the two-point conversion, have someone else throw the two-point conversion that wasn't your quarterback that was on fire like he was playing NBA jams.
34:32Hold on, Unc. A play like that in college, I understand it. Yes. I understand it because they don't see it coming. In the NFL, it's not working. That's a play for the movie The Longest Yard. Or maybe on Thanksgiving you're in the goddamn turkey bowl. That's what it's for. Or maybe the movie Waterboy. That's when you run a play like that. Not with a game on the line that you're actually trying to win and compete. Like, what are we doing? I swear for God. On my mama, rest in peace. I had to call two of my former coaches to get a better perspective on what they were doing. Because you've been a head coach.
35:08Please explain to me. You've been in that position before. If that was you, why do you call a play like that? And, of course, they wouldn't give me an answer. They wanted to keep it PC.
35:19Shannon Sharpe:Like, come on, man. First of all, you should have been in that situation because you should have kicked the PAT to begin with. Why the hell you go for two on the first PAT? You're only down 14. You're down an even number. So why the hell are you going for two on the first PAT? If you just kick it, now you're down seven. Now you don't have to chase the second point. That's what makes no sense to me. First of all, it didn't make sense. Who he started, he went with Flacco. Okay, fine. They said Dylan Gabriel, they drafted him in the third round. Okay, whatever the case may be, we can't go back in time, undo what's already done.
35:59Shannon Sharpe:But moving forward, the guy gives you a great opportunity to win. A great opportunity. He's playing his ass off. And you undercut him by taking him off the field. You undercut him by going for two when it's unnecessary. So I'm just trying to figure out, and I don't want to use the word sabotage, but I will say I'm trying to understand your rationale and your thought process. What goes into going for two the first time when you're only down 14, you kick the PAT, you're down seven. OK, now you're down eight because you didn't get the first PAT. I mean, the first two point conversion. So now you're down eight.
36:39Shannon Sharpe:You've got to go for it. What goes into a rationale after you see what your quarterback has done? Why would you take him off the field and ask somebody that doesn't play the position? Do you really, are you really, really trusting someone that hasn't thrown a pass to throw a pass in that situation, in that moment, at that juncture of the game? You really want to do that, Ocho? Is that really what you want to do, Chad? Hell no. They're doing that on purpose. They're doing it on purpose. And it's just not this. Just think about since training camp. Just think about all the games they've continued to play.
37:18Their organization has continued to play with Shador, just in general. They did not want Young Bull to be a starter because they understood if he gets the opportunity to play, the numbers you see him putting up, him getting an opportunity to play, he's going to give them their best chance to win. They don't want to win. Where if they do want to win, they don't want to win with him behind center. That's the only answer I can think of for you to be pulling that kind of bull drive I saw the other day. As a former player, as a football fan, as a fan of the game, for anybody, for any team, for any quarterback, you always want to put your quarterback and your team in the best positions to win.
37:58Because that's the point of playing this game. You want to win. And that shit, I'm sorry. that he pulled today was ridiculous um on the downside i was disappointed in and cleveland's
38:13Shannon Sharpe:defense rush defense tony pollard had 25 carries for a buck 61 had a 65 yard run had another long run um they've got to do a better job of stopping the run and so now we can put more pressure on cam ward but when you're in second when you're second and short you're third and short it's hard to rush the quarterback, Ocho, when you're in short, down, and deep. Because you don't know. They can run it. Now, if we got it second and long, we got it third and long, now we can unleash Miles Garrett. Now we can unleash some of these rushers. But I just need somebody to tell me. I need someone to explain to me.
38:47Shannon Sharpe:And I need you to explain it to me as if I'm a seven-year-old. So it's like a kid going to his father, and he's asking him a question, father. That's what I need somebody to explain it to me. Because it makes no sense. as a guy, also as guys that played the game, as a guy that studied the game, and that's what I do. I don't look at touchdowns. I'm glad they scored. I'm looking at how they scored. I'm looking at why they scored. I'm looking at what did the defense do. I'm looking at what play was called. What personnel were you in? So I can have a better understanding and say, okay, I saw why this worked.
39:23Shannon Sharpe:But to do this, it makes no sense. Yeah. And can I say one thing also? Let's say the Cleveland Brown defense, they've been playing their ass off all season. They've been playing their ass off all season. They've been stopping the run. They've been stopping the pass. So you know what? You come to a game where now we need the offense. When it was down 14, goddammit, the offense showed up. The offense showed up. They showed up. Miles Garrett got to be pissed. Denzel Ward, Dale Pitt, they have to be pissed. because I know they see it. I know if anybody was mic'd up, I know on the sideline, if you could hear the defensive player talking, they'd be like, man, what the hell are we doing?
40:05What the hell are we doing? Okay, they're running the ball on us. Now, this is one of the few games we need our offense to have our back. Long be motherfucking ho. The offense had their back. With a position, twice, two different drives. Drove down the field. We score. We go for two. What? We get the ball back. Go right back down the field again. And we do the same bullshit again. They got to be pissed. But they can't say nothing. They're not going to say nothing. They know it's some bull drive. But players in that locker room, they can't say anything. But they can see. Yeah. They can see. They can see clear as day.
40:45They know what's going on. They know what's going on. But if I can see it, and I'm all the way down here in Miami, a thousand-something miles away, come on. We know who can play and who can't play.
40:58Shannon Sharpe:We know who can play and who can't play. When you're in the locker room, you know exactly who can play, and we know exactly who can't play. I don't care what coach does. I don't care how much money you make. I don't care where you were drafted. I know if you can play or not because I see you every day. They know Shadour Sanders can play. They believe in Shadour. The greatest thing your teammates can do is have a belief in you, can trust you. Copenhagen spit-free pouches are packed full of American-grown tobacco. Made for welders. Stuck behind masks. More mechanics. Stuck on a fused spark plug.
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46:28Shannon Sharpe:The Chargers defeat the Eagles by the score of 22 to 19 in overtime. It looked like the Eagles were going down to win or even tie the game. A win, touchdown, tie, field goal, and then we play on. then the next score wins. Instead, Jalen Hurts threw into heavy traffic. The ball was deflected by Tony Jefferson. That's fourth interception, four interceptions by Hurts. And he had another fumble, turned the ball over twice on one play, Ocho. A new career high for interceptions in a game. Now, for all you guys talking about, they need to let Jalen Hurts throw more. Let Jalen Hurts throw more. Exhibit A.
47:06Hey, hey.
47:07Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead. I was going to say, obviously, most of the time you think about Jalen and his decision-making with the ball, even though he doesn't throw the ball much, he always protects the ball. I think before this game started on the season, I think he maybe had three, maybe four interceptions up to this point in the season. And to have a game like tonight where his decision-making wasn't what it usually is, especially at the end of the game, understanding the circumstances, the flat route is right there. The flat route is right there. Make the guy come up, make a goddamn tackle. Thank you. Thank you, Ocho.
47:42Shannon Sharpe:Thank you. Hold on. Instead of trying to squeeze a corner route, which they're running the corner route to the goddamn short side of the field, so chances are that's not going to be over. He can play both of them. He can play the – So, Ocho, to your point, because he's in between Goddard and the route, you don't have space. You need space because where are you going? You can't run a 20-yard out route because you're going to be out of the damn end zone. So, when Garner goes up five yards and he goes up seven yards, the guy's in between. He can literally play broke. Obviously, if you're going to run that concept, if you're going to run that combination concept, you've got to run that to the wide side.
48:21You've got to run to the wide side. Why run something like that in that situation to the short side of the field? It makes no sense to me. But in that situation, if you do run it, Jalen has to know, boom, as soon as the corner drops off just a little bit, trying to play both, trying to play in between, just take what's in front of you right now. Let him come up and make the tackle.
48:39Shannon Sharpe:That's it. That's all you have to do. You live to see another down. Ocho, even if you run that to the short side of the field, you need to have distance. You got to have separation because he knows where is number two. That's Dawson. I think that's Dawson, right? Isn't that Dawson? Yes, yes, yes. Where is he going, Ocho? He can only run so far with hell. He'll be in Compton. Yeah. Which would be out of bounds. Yeah. So no touchdown. So he knows that. So now I can play. I can soft play it because if you throw it to Goddard, I'm going to come up. It's only a three-yard game. Yeah. I'm hoping you throw it to Goddard so I can tap.
49:17Shannon Sharpe:But guess what? Since you didn't, I get my hand up in the ball carom. He played awful tonight. There's no way around it. One of those picks wasn't his. What do you call him? Brown, AJ. Yeah. AJ saw that. He saw that linebacker. He saw that linebacker. That's the one you got to protect him. You see the guy. You know there's a linebacker coming. You got to protect the guy. That's where you throw it at his waist. That's why you get him down and allow him to protect himself. AJ knows that hit is coming. He's got to make that catch. He's got to make a play. He can't pop it up. Because if you pop it up, the guy that's trailing, you're going to get a pick.
49:58Every time.
49:58Shannon Sharpe:It's as simple as that. But A.J. knows he's got to make that play. But then on the zone, he hit the D-tackle in the damn chest. And then the guy comes. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Listen, that zone blitz and that D-tackle pop out instead of rushing, that's hard to see. That's hard to see for a quarterback. So let me ask you a question. Yeah. The guy that he was trying to throw it to was behind the guy that he hit in the chest. How is that hard to see? No, no, I'm just saying, you know, that's why it's called a zone blitz and they have that D-tackle pop out like that because you're not expecting as a quarterback.
50:32You already, what's that, predetermined. You already predetermined what the ball is going on. I just wanted you to say that. Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
50:38Shannon Sharpe:That's all I just wanted him to say that, Chad. Right, right. He had already made his mind up where he was going with the football. Right, right. That's all I just wanted him to say that, Chad. Yeah. You're absolutely right. Mm-hmm. So here's the thing, Ocho. You make a terrible read. You hit the guy in the chest. The guy comes from behind him, strips him of the football. Okay, the ball pops out. You get it. instead of falling on the ground because guess what, Ocho? Since it's a change in possession, it's your ball and his first down going that way. First down going that way, yeah. Now you try to be hero.
51:07Shannon Sharpe:Jalen want to be a hero because we're going to talk about it on sports and we're going to talk about it tonight if he gets that ball up and gets 10 yards, gets 15 yards. So instead of doing the wise thing, what did he try to do, Ocho? Try to run a little bit. Put a cape on. Guess what happened, Ocho? Ball out again. He fumbled again, yeah. Yeah, it was a weird game tonight. It was a weird game tonight with so many fumbles, whether it was special teams, whether it was both offenses. It was eight turnovers in the game tonight. I'm not sure what the record is for the most turnovers in the game, but this has to be up there with it.
51:37This has to be up there with it. And I really thought the defense would have saved the day for them. And obviously they would have, being that San Diego got a field goal in the first overtime. So I thought, hell, the Eagles were going to go down and score. Yeah, you know what you need. I was actually hoping they were going to score for their sake and with the way they played. but unfortunately the decision making on Jalen at the end of the game it kind of hurt and another thing one of the best throws one of the throws that that threw it I know the throw you talking about that third and 15 where he let that ball go right off the back I knew the play exactly the play you talking about boy that was beautiful boy that's what we call anticipating and letting it go and trusting your receiver.
52:27That was beautiful right there, boy.
52:28Shannon Sharpe:That was art. That's what they ask him to do. That's what he doesn't do well enough. When it's one-on-one, yeah. But see, the really good one, you have to throw in the windows. You have to trust your skill set while also trusting your receiver to be where he's going to be. But you really got to trust yourself. You really have to trust yourself. Yeah. Hey, also, Ocho, when you ran that bang, that bang eight, on that seventh step or that glance, you call it a bang eight, you call it a glance. When that seventh step and that outside foot hit, when I do this, ball there. That ball should be right there.
53:09Shannon Sharpe:I mean, I don't care what that safety does. I don't care. All I know is that corner is on my outside. That ball is going to be there, and the quarterback job is to protect me, is to protect the throw. Don't put it back here and make me do this so he can knock it down. Put it right there. Put it right there and the safety come, I can protect myself. Listen, and don't let the safety take a goddamn bad angle. And I want to keep that thing. I'm out the backside. And dip on it and come out the backside. I got away with it one time. I'll never forget. We were playing the Buffalo Bills at home. Nate Clemons.
53:45Nate Clemons was guarding me. I'm not sure what that safety was thinking about. but when I took that seventh step or like I made my fifth step I was peeking at the safety and oh, he was in the wrong place. He was in the wrong place. He had his feet he had his feet set instead of getting back in that pedal. He wasn't in no trouble. You already in the full sprint. Man, I hugged that I hugged that bitch and went like a damn near U-turn hugged that bitch and came back down here and got up out the back door and scored. Hey,
54:17Shannon Sharpe:we ain't got no Eagle fans tonight They not in here? I know. Because you know they normally whoa, whoa, whoa. What you got to say now? Ocho, what y 'all got to say now about the eagles? What y 'all at? Eagle fans, come on. We need you. Get the chat up. How many we got in the chat right now? Come on, eagle fans. I know y 'all up. They might be asleep. I'm just late. Where the birds at? Ocho, normally eagles fly, eagles fly. All you see is eagles everybody chat. Eagles across the board. Where y 'all at? Oh, there you go. There's one. There's one. There's one. Hey, they in there. They in there. Hey, but if you notice, Ocho, one of the wings broke.
54:58Shannon Sharpe:The eagle like this here. He got one wing. The other one to his side. So we got to get him to a vent. In advance in the house. In advance. Well, that's the good thing. The eagle has landed. Crash landed. Yeah. This is the good thing about it, though. The running game. The running game got going. It got going a little bit. Saquon had a hundred and some chains at night. 122 on 20 carries. Yeah. They got going. Let me see what else. Hell, they still got a chance, huh? They still got a chance. They still have a chance to win the division. They have to play. They have to play. They got the Commanders twice.
55:33Shannon Sharpe:They got the Giants. And who else they got?
55:39The Commanders is winnable. The Commanders is winnable. Jayden Daniels is out for the season. Oh, they got Raiders, Commanders. There's a win. Bills commanders. They ain't beating the Bills. Listen, that's the toughest one right there. Where are they playing the Bills at? They playing the Bills? It don't matter.
55:56Shannon Sharpe:They can play on the moon. You don't got no faith in them? No. They ain't got no faith in themselves. We've seen this movie before. Remember a couple of years ago, they got off to that great start, and then they crash landed? Yes. The Eagle has crashed? Yes. We saw that. Doesn't it feel the exact same way? Right. Matter of fact, this was the year before the Super Bowl run, actually. Yep. Yeah, the year before the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Eagles defense played extremely well. They sacked Justin Herbert seven times. Seven times, yeah. Had he not been as mobile and athletic as he is, they probably would have got him 10 or 11 times.
56:33Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, way more than that. Absolutely. But look, they got to figure this thing out. They really do. I mean, you look at Hunt had two and a half sacks. Bond had a half a sack. Byron Young had a sack and a half. N 'Kobe Dean had a sack. Jordan Davis had a sack and a half. I mean, they was on him. Yeah. And you know what? Let me... For Jalen Hurst, too, on two of those interceptions, one was A.J. Brown's fault. One, the one that Deontay Jackson or Dante Jackson... Deontay Johnson? That wasn't on Jalen Hurst. That was on Smitty. That's Smitty. Smitty, I love you. Oh, yeah, when he slipped out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
57:15Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you got to come out that ball. You got to come out that ball, and you can't stop. You got to come back to it. That was on my dog. He slipped. Yeah. And normally when you slip, when you try to play it on your inside foot and you try to roll in that foot, get out from under you. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Instead of dropping your weight, putting that weight on them quads, I know they small. They small, Smitty, but you got to get back downhill because if you roll off that inside foot, Yeah. It's going to get out from under you. And he's throwing it on anticipation. Yeah. And this is what's going to happen.
57:51Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. Yeah. But it's unfortunate. I mean, Ocho, have you ever seen a turnover, two turnovers on one play by a guy? Yeah. Hold on. A long time ago, the New Orleans Saints was playing, I think, the Redskins. Remember somebody fumbled the ball? Somebody fumbled the ball and then Robert Meacham. I think it was Robert Meacham. The Saints had the ball. It was the interception. Then Robert Meacham. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But hold on. Snap the ball from him. Here's the thing.
58:20Shannon Sharpe:No, but the same guy did it, though. I know the play you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He threw a pick. The guy fumbled. Yeah. Robert Meech and took it from him. Took it from him. And went back the other way with it. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about the same guy. He throws a pick. Oh, no, no, no, no. I've never seen that. I've never seen that. I've never seen it either. And I've seen some wacky, wacky, wacky, wacky plays. outlook. The ball bounces funny. And you see some stuff that you normally wouldn't see. Who is that? I think Jacksonville. She was playing Houston. And you talked to bat it down.
58:55Shannon Sharpe:He bats the ball down, but he bats it right to a Houston Texan. I mean, to a Jacksonville Jaguar who walks in the end zone on a Hail Mary. Yeah. Knock it down. Knock it down. Oh, damn. He right there. Knocked it down right in his arm. He walked right into the end zone. We see Jacksonville run all the... Who is that? Was that Jacksonville or New Orleans? that run all over the field. They ran a lateral. They laddered like 40 times. Trying to score. They scored, and then the guy come on and missed the PAT.
59:28But... Yeah.
59:34Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I mean, I think I saw something they said it's the first time since 78, so I don't know. But it's a rare play. Ain't a whole lot of people have seen that play because the NFL wasn't covered like it is now, and a lot of people weren't born in 78. So somebody might have saw it, but I have never seen it. And I've seen a lot of wacky things because I've been around since 68, been watching football since 77. Well, I've been watching to understand what I remember. The first game I probably remember is that we went over to my great-grandmother's house on a Monday night to watch OJ. For real? Yep, to watch OJ.
1:00:09Shannon Sharpe:OJ then was playing on a Monday night, And we wanted to see OJ. My grandfather wanted to see OJ. And so, but look, this game really, the pressure's starting them out on the Eagles. Because they got up to this great start, Ocho. They were four or five games clear. Oh, yeah, of everybody. They best of right to lose another game. And the Cowboys, hold on. How many games? They've got to win. They've got to win. The Cowboys are what? Five and what? Six, six and one. The Cowboys are six, six and one. So they've got to win. Three of the next five. Yeah. Yeah, three of the next five. Well, chalk it up for the Raiders.
1:00:54Shannon Sharpe:They're going to win, beat the Raiders. So, yeah, both teams got four games. So they're going to have to, the Cowboys can only, most the Cowboys can win is 10. Right. They could be 10-6-1. Mm-hmm. Raiders win the Eagles win three of their last four they get to 11 11 is more than 10
1:01:20Shannon Sharpe:it'd be very interesting to see if they go 2-2 because now the Cowboys win because the Cowboys is 10-6 and y 'all will be 10-7
1:01:35Shannon Sharpe:Green Bay toughed out a home win against the Bears team that had won nine of the past 10 coming in and knocked them off the defending Super Bowl champs on Black Friday. Green Bay hasn't allowed more than 16 points in any of its three losses. Christian Watson looked like a true number one receiver. Green Bay has beaten the Lions twice and the Bears once so far this season. For the winners, Jordan Love, 17-25, 234, three touchdowns, one pick. Josh Jacobs, 20 carries, 86 yards, one touchdown. Christian Watson had four catches, 89 yards, two touchdowns, a long of 41 on four targets. He caught everything.
1:02:16Shannon Sharpe:Bo Melton, one catch, 45 yards. He had two targets. Jane Daniels had four targets, had four catches, 31 yards. They played extremely well. Caleb Williams, he was 19 of 35, 186, two touchdowns, one interception. They ran the ball 32 times for 138 yards.
1:02:42Shannon Sharpe:they made plays. Green Bay defense bowed their back when they need to. I'm sure Kevin Williams wished he could have that throwback, Ocho, because he would just get his hips around fast enough and throw it, and he'll allow the safety to get back in and make a play. But when you watch this game, that's what's the frustrating part. You see Jordan Love and how he just throws the ball, and in some games you just look at him like, Jordan, what are you doing? What was that? What are you seeing? Yeah.
1:03:14Oh, he...
1:03:16Shannon Sharpe:Man, what is... Hey, Elgato. But the Packers, 337 total yards. Really clean game. Nice game. Let's see team stats here.
1:03:40Josh Jacob was 20 20 carries 86 yards in the TD Christian Watson led all the receivers with 4 for 89 and 2 TDs
1:03:50Shannon Sharpe:both teams Green Bay was 8 of 12 on 3rd down Chicago was 8 of 16 on 3rd down 1 of 2 on 4th downs Chicago had 68 total plays Green Bay had 52 Chicago had 315 total yards Packers had 337. Both had nine total drives. Chicago had the ball almost 34 minutes.
1:04:22Shannon Sharpe:Packers had it for 26.
1:04:27They got after Caleb real well. They had him uncomfortable most of the game. They had him uncomfortable most of the game. blitzing, bringing pressure. And the Bears had a good offensive game plan for that, doing a lot of misdirection, rolling them out to get them away from the pressure. But man, that last drive, it was the last drive. I think it was the third or fourth down? The fourth down with the interception? Yeah, that fourth down with the interception. Ah, man. That was a good game. I know the Bears lost, but that was a really, really good game with a very good Packers defense. I mean, ain't really much I can say about that one, but they played well.
1:05:18Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I think, look, I think Chicago is ahead of schedule, Ocho, with how well they're playing, but I think they're going to only get better. I think they have a very, very bright future. They have the quarterback. They got a running game. They got good quality receivers. They got two tight ends. They revamped the offensive line. I like the defense. The defense is really good. But Green Bay just, you know, Green Bay, when they had to dig deep and when they needed to make a stop, they got it. And sometimes that's when it comes... Look, this is a division game. This is the oldest rivalry in the NFL.
1:05:56Shannon Sharpe:They've been playing each other 100 plus years. So without a... They've got over 100 matchups. I think the Packers were the first team in 1919, 1920. I think the Bears were shortly there after that. So they probably got damn near 200 matchups between the two of them. But when you look at the division rival, it doesn't matter if they're good. If one team is good, the other team is bad. You already know what you're going to get. We see each other every year. We've been in the same. It used to be the NFC Central. Now it's the NFC North. We know what to expect. We don't like you. We're about two hours away from each other, Green Bay and Chicago.
1:06:37Shannon Sharpe:You don't like us. We don't like you. Let's get it on. We don't like you.
1:06:44Shannon Sharpe:Ah, damn. But I like what I saw from Green Bay. I like the throws that Jordan Love, man. I mean, his mannerism just reminds you so much of Aaron Rodgers. You're like, damn. Damn, boy. I mean, he throw it off his back foot. But he made plays when they had to have him. His receivers stepped up and made catches when they had to have him. Now, Christian Watson, man, he can play if he can just stay healthy, Ocho. I mean, the guy can fly. He got great hands. He run good routes. It's just his ability to stay healthy. And when you have that kind of speed, Ocho, you know you're going to normally have hamstring problems.
1:07:31Shannon Sharpe:I'm surprised. Hamstring injury, yeah. That's something Tyreek really never faced. Because, you know, most speed guys, Ocho, they have hamstring issues. They have, you know, soft tissue injuries. You know, Joel Galloway was plagued with hamstring issues. But Christian Watson had that. He tore his knee. But he's come back, and he's playing extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely well. But Caleb Williams is going to get better. And look, it's a little setback, and I'm sure he'd love to have that throw. I mean, you don't have to get really all the way outside. I know that's what you like. Try to put pressure on the defense by getting there right now.
1:08:09Shannon Sharpe:But, hey, if that guy is open, pull up and pop it. Pull up and let him at it. Yeah, right now.
1:08:18Shannon Sharpe:Rashid Shahid returned the second half opening kickoff for 100 yards touchdown, and the Seahawks blow out the hapless Falcons 37-9. The Seahawks broke away with a 6-6 tie at halftime with a 31-point beatdown in the second half. And the Falcons, whoo, the Seattle's defense came up with three turnovers that the Seahawks won for the seventh time in eight games. Darnold threw 249 yards, three touchdowns. A pair of scores to Jackson, JSN, Jackson, Smith, and JSN. And another one to Cooper Cup. Hey, JSN balling. Oh, man. Every week. He had a little temporary shutdown last week. They did a great job of, you know, bracketing him and making it tough on him.
1:09:04Shannon Sharpe:But you look at he had seven catches for 92 yards on 10 targets. Shahid had four for 67. Cup had two for 35 on a touchdown on three targets. they look hey that's a nice little trio quietly that's a nice little trio you got Jackson who can do everything intermediate short Cooper Cup who's a tremendous route runner and Rasheed he can take the top off a goddamn building man perfect perfect combination perfect trio I thought the game got away from him looked like Atlanta was going in the score and then Bijan fumbled the football and they really didn't look bad after that. I mean, it kind of broke their back once they fumbled that football because they go down there and they get a score.
1:09:52Shannon Sharpe:Cousins turned the ball over twice with a fumble so they had three turnovers. And it's hard. It is hard to overcome when you have three turnovers. It's hard. And you're playing a good team. The Seahawks are a quality team. They are a quality team. They're going to be a tough out because they can run the football. They got a quarterback. Now look, the question is, will Sam Donald turn back into that pumpkin? If you put pressure on them in the playoffs, because we saw that last year when they went to, I think that was Detroit. In the first round. But they got a defense. They got two corners that can lock it down.
1:10:26Shannon Sharpe:They can bring pressure. DeMarcus Lawrence has found new life. Jaron Reed. I mean, they got Leonard Williams. They got a really solid defense. And they got Wolin and Spoon. The safeties will come up and thump you. They got the gritting coverage. They're good. They're going to be tough out for somebody. It's going to be a tough out for somebody, Ocho.
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