BEST OF NFL Week 18 Part 2: Pete Carroll & Raheem Morris FIRED, Steelers SNEAK AWAY with AFC North Crown!

22:56if that makes sense. Yes.

22:58Shannon Sharpe:He is. To the Steelers' side, Aaron Rodgers, 31-47, 294. They ran the ball 24 times, basically a little over four yards of carry. Gainwell had a big catch. Calvin Austin with the sluggo.

23:18Shannon Sharpe:Phelan had a big catch. Valdez Scanlon had some big catches. Look, Frymuth had a big catch to set him up, get him down, to like the five-yard line. They played well. You know the Steelers was going to play well. Cam Haywood, I thought Cam Haywood had a well of a ball game. I thought the D lineman played really, really well. I thought there were some lanes that had the backside been able to get cut off that Derrick Henry could have hit those and maybe popped it instead of getting two, three yards. He probably could have got 10, 12 yards. But I credit the Steelers. They did a great job of disengaging.

23:56Shannon Sharpe:and getting to the ball carrier. Give those guys credit for that. I thought the Steelers' D-line played extremely well. Yeah, and you're like, well, how do you say they play well? They gave up 120, 126 to Derrick Henry. But that could have easily been, against Green Bay, that 120 was 180. That was the difference. Cam Hayward played extremely, extremely well. I love the way I look. He might not run fast, but from point A to point B, which is from end to end, he gets there. I was very impressed. I mean, Harry is in year, what's the year, year 14? This year 14, he was in that 2012 draft, Ocho, with Cam and Von Miller and all those guys, Justin Houston, Richard Sherman, all those guys, the greatest draft, that's the greatest draft.

24:55Shannon Sharpe:That is the greatest. The greatest? If you look at the players in that draft, you know Julio was in that draft, right? AJ Green was in that draft, right? Pat Peterson was in that draft, right? Yeah, I got you. Cam Haywood, Cam Jordan, all of them was in that draft, Ocho. Hey, the grading draft is 2001, huh? What? The grading draft is in 2001. I just want to throw that out there just in case. Y 'all ain't even close. Y 'all might not be better than 90. With me, Emmitt, Seau, rest his soul, Ted, rest his soul, y 'all might not be better than us. Listen, can you hear me? When Chad Javon Johnson was drafted into the NFL, that was the greatest draft.

25:45Ocho, you're only one person. I don't care.

25:47Shannon Sharpe:Who else was in your draft class? Michael Vick. Okay, who else? I can't remember the rest of the people. Cam, Von Miller, Pat Peterson, A.J. Green, Julio Jones, Tyron Smith, Cam Jordan, Cam Hayward, Richard Sherman, Justin Houston.

26:10Shannon Sharpe:Pull up that night, put out a 2011 draft. It ain't even close. Ain't nobody close to that draft. When you go back and look at the players in that draft, in that first round, just the first round. Sherman was, I think Sherman was what, second, third, fourth? when you look at that draft Ocho that is the greatest you talking about Richard Sherman Sherman was 5th round yes what what he was 5th round oh J.J. Watt was in that draft okay hey them some nice boys hey everybody you name is nice but Ocho was drafted in 2001 I was drafted in 2001 the greatest entertainer of all time was drafted in 2001. That's me.

26:56That's me. But you only one player. You got to have 27 mothers. I know. I know. But it's one player that is more entertaining and fun than everybody you just named. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give the Steelers credit.

27:08Shannon Sharpe:They get an extra day. This is not an accident that they put the team that played the last game on Monday night to give them a rest. They didn't want to cheat them. Don't make them play on Saturday. Hey, let them play Monday night. So this year, Ocho, we got a Monday night playoff game, something we've never had before. I'm ready. Hey, matter of fact, since we never had it before, why don't we make a presence? Let's make our presence felt. You want me to go to the game? Cause. Hey, how come every time I act? Now I got to be in Baltimore, then we got to be in New York. Hey, how come... Hey, y 'all don't be telling me nothing, man.

27:53Y 'all don't be telling me nothing. I don't be knowing what's going on.

27:55Shannon Sharpe:Well, I think you find out sooner or later. But how you know before me? How know what? We going to New York. You knew that. I didn't know that until you told me your last... We on the red carpet with Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Tiana Taylor. What we doing with them? What do you do on the red carpet, Ocho? Oh, we finna walk the red carpet? Ocho, we working. No, we not. Yeah, we gon walk the red carpet. We live streaming from the red carpet, Ocho. Hold on. I get to wear a suit? You can wear whatever you wanna wear. Hey, hey, one thing you know about it. When it's time to put on some thread, it's time to look good.

28:34Boy, you know who comes to the party, Ocho. Let me tell you. Hey, I'm gonna be some European.

28:38Shannon Sharpe:You need to communicate with Ocho.

28:44Hey, I'm finna be sharp, bro. What we goin' to? Hey, we goin' to the what?

28:48Shannon Sharpe:The Golden Globes? We got Netflix premiere The Rip with Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Tiana Taylor. All those. Okay. Okay. Hey, I know me and Ben Affleck go way back. Well, good. I'm sure you have some very interesting questions to ask them, Ben. Hey, yeah. I got some good ones. But hey, I'm finna be so clean, boy. I'm going to be clean as a boy of health. You hear me? Ocho, for the first time since 2021 and for the first time since leaving the Packers after the 2022 season, Aaron Rodgers is back in the playoff. Aaron Rodgers in the post-game interview, it's been a grinding year and the two years before that was tough as well.

29:26Shannon Sharpe:But, he's back. He's back. He's back in the postseason. It's been a while since he's been in the postseason. This is what, look, it's a tough year on him. He's playing with I think a broken bone in his non-throwing hand. It's been tough. Yeah, in his left hand. It's really tough when you've been as great as he is and all of a sudden some of the things that you took for granted that you could do with your eyes. You can't do it no more. You can't do it no more, Ocho. You can't do it no more. But he played well tonight. When they needed a big throw, he came up with it. They needed a big run. You know, he scrambled for 20 yards.

30:06Shannon Sharpe:I thought Jalen Warren ran tough. The guys made plays. Now, next week, they get DK back. They get DK back. Hey, and that's a good thing because look what Aaron was able to do without him tonight. Listen, it was done by committee tonight. Everybody was a part of the offense. Fryer move, balling. Calvin Austin getting throws, getting throws. Normally he wouldn't get before because now we ain't got no choice. We got the counting because we don't have DK Metcalf. They got my dog Adam Thielen involved in the game. I wish they would use him a little bit more. Obviously, he's a veteran presence. He's good.

30:43He's a route runner. I don't care how long he's been playing. I don't care how old he is. If you brought him in, goddamn use him. Outside of that, I mean, it's going to get interesting come Monday night in that playoff game. Yes. And anytime you have Aaron Rodgers, someone who's used to being in the playoffs. Oh, Joe. Used to being in the playoffs.

31:03Shannon Sharpe:But you know one thing the Texans can do? They can heat your ass up with more. Yeah, yes, sir. I mean, you ain't got to tell me twice. You ain't got to tell me twice. Listen, Will Anderson, Daniel Hunter. They got Seattle Jr. They got Mario Edwards. They got Rankins. They got Shazir. They got Tutu Adola. The DBs that they got, they can come. They can come. Now, the problem that concerns me is that the Houston Texans don't have a run game. it's hard, it's hard, it's hard, Ochoa, to win when you don't have no resemblance of a run. And you know the Steelers. The Steelers like to make you one-dimensional and just try to go hunt your quarterback.

31:46And you know what? When I think about it too, Unk, Nico didn't play the game. Stingley, some of them boys, a lot of them rested the day, Unk. Even without a run, They've been able to still run their offense. They don't need a Saquon type of back. They don't need a Devon H. hand, a back that's going to go for 150, 180, you know, but still just someone that can keep it going, keep it going and keep our offense balanced. Keep our offense balanced. We don't need you breaking a run for 80, 50 yards. That's never been the Texans. That's really never been the Texans if you think about it. Obviously, the last time I can think of an efficient running back doing extremely well in the run game was when Joe Mixon was helping.

32:33Correct. I mean, before that, it was that.

32:37Shannon Sharpe:It's been – before Joe Mixon, it was Arian Foster. I think they had Pierce. Why would they just – They had a guy named Pierce that ran really well. I don't know what happened to him. I don't know where he is now. Chat, maybe y 'all can help us out.

32:52Shannon Sharpe:But they got their work cut out for them. The Steelers got their work cut out for them, I think, both teams. have their work cut out for them. The one thing that we do know is that they can get after your quarterback. They can get after your quarterback, Coach O. Yeah, they can. They can. I don't really think – listen, I don't have no horse in this race. I don't have a horse in this race. But if I'm betting on a team to win this game, even as great as that goddamn Texan defense is, I'm not betting against two players, a coach and a player that have been in the postseason multiple times. that are used to it.

33:29I'm not bad. That's me. And, you know, I'm not a betting man, so I'm just saying based on who's been there the most in those type of situations where they're not rattled. There is no pressure. They've been there so much they just go out there. As a quarterback, I'm going to just go play ball. Well. I'm going to just play ball. Okay, they got a great pass rush. How do we counter that? How do we counter them having a great pass rush? Hell, motherfucking misdirection. Quick throws. The quick game.

33:55Shannon Sharpe:What Cincinnati do to try to keep miles off? Bingo. And they did it the entire game. They did it all four quarters. Congratulations to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They win the AFC North and get a matchup with the number five seed, the Houston Texans, on Monday night. They beat the Baltimore Ravens by the score of 26-24. The Ravens rookie missed a Tyler Loop, misses a 44-yard field goal, and the Ravens go home. What started? Look, all the games that they lost early, Ocho, they probably kicked themselves. They lost to the Buffalo, had a game in hand. They lose to Buffalo. They lost some games that they probably should have won.

34:38Shannon Sharpe:They probably shouldn't even been in this situation. But you are what your record says you are. All this where they should have been this or they should have been that, what does their record say? Their record say they're under 500 teams. that's what they are, an under 500 team. So, Stevens, congratulations. You win the AFC North 26-24 over the Baltimore Ravens. DK gets a chance with 14 seconds at a timeout. John Harbaugh went to the rookie kick. Ocho, you got a timeout in hand. You don't want to try to get no more yards? nah I don't think so not in that situation you know why they did why but one he didn't because he trusts his kicker a rookie in that situation yeah yeah he's not even looking at it like that you can't look at it like that okay nah yeah I trust my kicker I want to end this now I want to end this now and win this game I'm putting our season on my rookie kicker's leg he's a rookie there's a reason we got him if we didn't trust we wouldn't have him wow only two things can happen either you gonna make it or you gonna miss it's unfortunate that he missed he ain't got no time with the clock so I season over and it might have cost me my job hey listen I'm with you when you're right eczema isn't always obvious but it's real and so is the relief from ebglyss after an initial dosing phase about four in ten people taking ebglyss achieved itch relief and clear or almost clear skin at 16 weeks and most of those people maintain skin that's still more clear at one year with monthly dosing ebglyss librikizumab lbkz a 250 milligram per two milliliter injection is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kilograms with moderate to severe eczema.

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39:53Shannon Sharpe:The Panthers squeeze into the playoffs. Wait, the who? The Panthers. The who? The Carolina Panthers squeeze into the playoffs thanks to the help from the Atlanta Falcons who beat the New Orleans Saints by the score of 19-17. A Falcons win was enough to send the Panthers to the postseason and send Tampa Bay home. Carolina Panthers haven't made an NFL playoff since 2017, and they haven't hosted a playoff game in nearly a decade. This also marks the owner's, David Tepper's, first trip to the postseason since he purchased the team in July of 2018. Hours after the game, Ocho, Falcons fired head coach Raheem Morris and GM Terry Fontenot after two straight disappointing seasons.

40:39Shannon Sharpe:The Atlanta Falcons wrapped up an 8-9 campaign. Fontenot has been the Falcons' general manager since 2021. Morris was hired in 2024. I thought Terry Fontenot did a good job. You look at who he drafted. Yeah. Kyle Pitts. B. John Robinson. Michael Penis Jr., Piers, Johnson. They got some talent, Ocho. They got some talent. Listen, they got some talent. It's unfortunate that they won't be there to see that talent continue to flourish over there in Atlanta. Obviously, Arthur Blank, very short of patience, only allowing Raheem three years, Fontenot allowing him three years, and he sees fit. They're going in other directions for his team.

41:25Fontenot's been there for five. Oh, he's been there for five?

41:28Shannon Sharpe:Since 2021. Raheem been there for three. Since 2024. He's been there two years. Damn. They let him go already? I wouldn't be surprised. We're going to talk about this matchup a little later. I would not be surprised if they let Aaron Ganglo go. Ocho, remember? After one? Did they let Gerard Mayo go after one? Did they let Steve Wills go after one?

41:58Shannon Sharpe:when you feel you got talent. Hey, hold on. Hey, it's sure it's a short leash, huh?

42:07It's sure it's short. You know what? You know what? I'm not. You know what? Jalen Walker. That's the first round pick? He was the first round pick. Jalen Walker.

42:13Shannon Sharpe:Okay. Yeah, and Pierce Jr. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Hey, you see how God continued to open doors and you're acting like you're blind to it, huh? What do you have open doors for? As a matter of fact, I'm about to sell my house in Atlanta. I ain't trying to go face it. Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, I'm close with Arthur Blank. Now, I could put your name in the hat if you want to get your call. I got his number. I can call it myself. Okay. Well, you might want to shoot him a text. If I do, I want to ask him how he's doing. Make sure, you know, he's doing okay. That's it. That's all I want.

42:53Shannon Sharpe:No, you don't. Kirk Cousins, 18 of 32, one touchdown, one interception. B. John Robinson, 15 for 33. They had 25 carries, 49 yards. Tyler Shook was 23 of 35, 259, one touchdown, one interception. They ran the ball 26 times for 108 yards. Jawan Johnson, three for 61. Dante Pettis, five for 60. Adric Estimi, five for 43. Yeah. That interception, that killed the Saints. That interception killed the Saints. The timing of when it actually happened, it killed all momentum and their chances to actually win this game once the Falcons got the ball back in that situation. I mean, the Saints didn't play bad.

43:39They was able to hold Bijan only 33 yards. Drake London only had 78. Outside of that, it was a good game. It was a very good divisional game where the team that made the few mistakes Stakes was going to win the game, and that's exactly what happened.

43:53Shannon Sharpe:I think Jay Glazier is reporting that Matt Ryan is in line to be a senior something at the Falcon. Didn't he report that? What? For real? Hey, that's nice. Can you imagine? Let's say Ryan. A high-profile fun office role. Well, the only role that's high profile is general manager BGM. he ain't about to be the owner so those are the two high profile roles you get to be BP or you get to be the GM so there's a good chance Matt Ryan going to be the new GM and being able to oversee and building that team into what it is they may need you know that's dope for the future that's dope does that happen often or more players should be afforded the opportunity to be in those positions.

44:52Shannon Sharpe:Well, you see, look, Tom Brady has a role in the Raiders. Yeah. Who is that? Troy is getting advice, has the ear of your team, the Guppies. Right. So it's starting to happen more. Mm-hmm. Well, maybe I wonder if the opportunity would present itself for me to have some type of front office role in Cincinnati. No, that's a family-run business. That ain't happening. You know that. And I'm a part of the family. I'm not sure if you knew. First of all, you know the Cincinnati Bengals more than anybody. Yeah, yeah. So you know it's Mike Brown, his daughter, his son-in-law. Katie, yeah, Troy, yeah. And listen, hold on.

45:44And right up under there is me. Yeah, right up under there. But if I need anything, you know how you can call the Broncos? Huh? If you need anything. But if I need anything, and I'm not even talking about football related. I'm talking about if I was down to my last. You hear me? Hey, Chad, listen to me real quick. If I was down to my last. Oh, Dan Morgan. Dan Morgan's in the role at the Carolina. At the Carolina, that's right.

46:10Shannon Sharpe:Doesn't Keeley, is Keeley doing anything for the? I don't think Keeley's doing anything for the. Yeah. Monk, you're not hearing what I'm saying though, huh? Monk, if I were down to my last, what? And I'm about to be homeless. And I need a little help. Okay. I can make that call, but everybody can't do that. What? Yeah, I'm talking about you. I need some cash. I am, hey, listen to me. I am of no value to you anymore. But you know what? I'm in a bad position. Can you loan me something? Yeah, well, look. Yeah. Now, if the Bowling was in a situation, I had that kind of relationship with the Bowling.

46:50Shannon Sharpe:I don't know. Right. I have a great – the time that I've spoken to Rob and the Penners, they've been great to me. So I don't want people to come out like, well, Shannon can't go back to the Broncos. They opened up the facilities and let me sit down and interview John just last week, two weeks ago. Yeah. So the Ravens – excuse me. The Broncos have been great to Shannon Sharp. but I didn't play for them. It's a different type of relationship. I played for Mr. B. I had a personal relationship with Mr. B. I think they're going to release a documentary and his daughters reached out and asked me what I taught because of the relationship that I had with Mr.

47:30Shannon Sharpe:B. It was next to John. It's hard to say that his favorite player wasn't 84, Sharpie. but no the Ravens I keep saying the Ravens because we just talked about them the Broncos have been great most of the time I just call Chip, Chip I need something I'm getting some more of these cups I need some more of these cups if I need hat if I need gear, I need paraphernalia something like that I'll just call, I'll reach out to Chip or I'll reach out to Flip I need a helmet I need some tees. Hey, what you need, Sharpie? So, but no, the Broncos have been great to Shannon Sharp. The Broncos have been great.

48:17Shannon Sharpe:The Broncos helped put Shannon Sharp's kids through college, through private school, hey, take care of his family. The Broncos first and the Ravens. The Broncos started it. The Ravens made it like, okay, if I want to work after my career, I can. But if I don't, I can shut it down. Cleveland Browns. They have fired Kevin Stefanski after six years. He's a two-time coach of the year and he won Cleveland's first playoff game in more than 25 years. Despite those accolades, Stefanski exit with a 45-56 record and went 8-26 in his last two seasons. The majority of Stefanski's success came with Baker Mayfield, but the Browns have since traded him away.

48:59Shannon Sharpe:This is the list of passes in no particular order that has come along since Baker. Deshaun Watson, Jacoby Brissett, Joe Flacco, Jameis Winston, Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, P.J. Walker, Jeff Driscoll, and Bailey Zappi. That's a lot of quarterbacks. Now, it was reported today, and I don't know, Pete Prisco, who writes for CBSSports.com, he's reported that Stefanski never wanted Deshaun Watson. Ocho, I don't know if you saw it, but I was talking to John, and I asked him one of the reasons why I asked him, you know, one of his biggest regrets is that he didn't take Josh Allen.

49:36Shannon Sharpe:And I said, well, why didn't you take him? He said, Sharpe, I just couldn't get the coaches to buy in. He was really, really raw, and it was going to take some time for him to develop. You know, he didn't throw – he turned the ball over, and he didn't throw with a high completion. But I just couldn't get the coaches to buy in. And when you're talking about, you know, taking somebody with the fifth pick of the draft or you're taking a big-time fridge at the quarterback position like a Deshaun Watson, Ocho, you need everybody bought in. Can't nobody. There can't be any lukewarm feeling. Yeah, I'll cope.

50:07Shannon Sharpe:No, we got to be all bought in. Now, that's what Pete Prisco say. We don't know that to be true. But what it did, because it hadn't worked out so far, Ocho, it kind of doomed the franchise. Because think about what you gave up. Three first rounders. You gave up a second round. I think you gave up a third round. Find me all what they all gave up. And when it doesn't work out, Ocho. Yes. well um well listen to you ain't joe and i mean this didn't doom the franchise the franchise has been doomed before that situation even happened um they've been through 37 000 quarterbacks they haven't been able to find the one now obviously if josh allen if they've gotten josh allen despite what they might have seen on tape listen um when you when your draft regardless to what round regardless of what pick it's still hit or miss no matter what you can get somebody in the first round that played great in college and it might it might not translate over into in the NFL.

50:57It just happens like that. Sometime this year's draft, we're talking about some of the players that are coming to the draft, they're going to very bad teams. When they go to the bad teams, some of these players that are going to go early aren't transcending talents. They're not generational talents, but they have a superior supporting cast around them in college, and therefore they're going to go high to a very bad team. You're going to wonder why they struggle. They struggle because of them having, I mean, them not having the tools and the supporting cast around them when they get to these NFL teams.

51:31And it's a different ballgame. If you're not a transcending talent, which I really haven't seen, I'm talking about a generational talent, that would show up right now in college. There is not that coming into the draft. It's not. I'm just being honest. And I'm not sure, people in the chat, I'm not sure what you're watching. Even those college players that have played well, those college quarterbacks ain't no lamar jacksons ain't no josh allen's ain't no joe burrows ain't no patrick mahomes now that there's a chance they could pan out to be that but teams don't have

52:03Shannon Sharpe:the patience for that to happen or the culture because if you go back and think about ocho josh allen's rookie year was a turnover machine it wasn't until he got brian dayball that he turned into the jaw of the josh allen that we see now and the uh the guy that's that's taken over has even taken him to a higher height and got him to an MVP. So that's the thing. They're going to be some rough spots. And the question is, are we built to withstand those rough spots until he gets this thing figured out? And Joe, this is another thing, Joe and Unc. If you're not built, which you aren't going to be, the Raiders aren't built.

52:44No. And whoever they pick, they're going to get a quarterback, Joe. They got to. They're going to get a quarterback, Unc. Do you trust Mark Davis and all the people that are in that building, that are in positions of power, to build a team around him to make sure he can be competent, a good quarterback for the future? Because if you don't, what's going to happen, that shit can be demoralizing, Joe. Joe, you go into the wrong situation like that, and you ain't got no help around you?

53:11Shannon Sharpe:I can imagine. You come from a winning program where you've won everything, and then you come to the NFL and it's a different ball game. Joe, this is the best of the best. But it's levels to everything. It's the best of the best and you're going early, but the team you're on is just not good. The players you're playing with, even though they're part of the 1%, they're just not good. What you think of Joe? Man, what team y 'all talking about right now? Uncle Ocho. He's just talking about top quarterbacks go into a bad situation because that's the way it's supposed to be. I know we're talking about the best players.

53:52Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I know we're talking about the worst teams and help them all of a sudden. They're not the worst teams anymore. Yeah, I know you had said something about, you know, these coaches getting fired. Yeah, even when I look at the Cleveland situation, man, you got a pretty good quarterback, Ocho. Why not just, like, beef up your offensive line, get some more weapons, whoever you're going to have back there throwing the ball. So at the end of the day, man, you got to protect the quarterback and you got to give him some more weapons from what I've been saying. They definitely need a wide receiver.

54:22Shannon Sharpe:You got Jenkins. We'll see how soon he can come back. Will he come? I mean, is he going to miss time, Ocho? You know, he had a serious injury. Will he miss time? Will he be back for OTAs? Will he be ready for training camp? How soon will he be back? I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, but see, when you get a 26-year-old, that's proven it's supposed to be can't miss. We're not talking about a guy out of college, Ocho. We're talking about a guy that at the time that they signed him, he was a top five quarterback. Everybody had Deshaun Watson in their top five. So that's not a situation where we're getting a guy that's never played, never thrown an NFL football, never doesn't know what it's like to go to NFL meetings and lead a huddle and command and be the voice of men among men.

55:07Shannon Sharpe:That's Deshaun Watson. 26 years of age. He had just led the league in passing, had been a pro-goal player, so he was supposed to be can't miss. You get Tom Brady going to Tampa, he can't miss. You get Peyton Manning, granted now, Peyton Manning, he had the elbow, the nerve in his neck, Ocho. But based on that, if everything checked out, if he could throw the ball 40 yards, Peyton Manning was supposed to be can't miss. That was Deshaun Watson. 26 years of age, fully healthy, just led the league in passing, and he gets to Cleveland, and for whatever reason, I'm like, I don't know this guy. I don't know this guy.

55:51Shannon Sharpe:This is not the guy that came from Houston, Ocho. I don't know him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're right. Cleveland, you need wide receivers. You got a great tight end, but it doesn't hurt to have another one. Yeah. Knox and Kincaid. Did you see how they got that in Buffalo, Ocho? Hold on. What about the Bears? Loveland and Komet. Loveland. Yeah, Loveland. You got Warren. You got Mo Alley Cox and the Colts. You got two tight ends. You got Strange and the other guy at Jacksonville. So they need weapons. They need to beef up that offensive line. The offensive line is just not good enough right now.

56:33Shannon Sharpe:Man. They're not good enough right now. But you need weapons. But you You can't keep shuttling quarterbacks in and out. Yeah. You mentioned Mark Davis. I ain't got no problem with Mark Davis because Mark Davis, he's not like his dad. He's not meddlesome like his dad. He trusts the people that he hired. The people that he hired just effed it up because he didn't want to fire John Gruden. The NFL made him. Yeah. and he's one of those he's one of those owners he's not like his dad they'd have never made his dad fire anybody he's like fire him he'd have went and hired some more of his family just that's not Joe you didn't catch it see I called the real ass he's like that that's not how his son is his son is like okay I'll tow the company line I'll do everything Jerry has replaced his dad as the outlaw man I'm gonna do what the hell I say right I paid for this team.

57:34Shannon Sharpe:I'm not going to let you tell me what to do or boss me around. But, Ocho, here's what Jimmy Haslam had to say about the state of the Browns. And I want you to hear this, okay? First of all, ownership takes full responsibility for where we are. To win eight games in two years is horrible. It's totally unacceptable, okay? And it's not going to continue, okay? And I want the fans to know we are as frustrated as you are. hey there's one thing about it right hey listen ownership ownership hey this is the funny thing about it ownership takes full responsibility they have only the a owners can't get fired joe i know hey the people hey the people that own they can't get fired 400 probably 400 425 coming Ocho in March.

58:26What'd that mean?

58:27Shannon Sharpe:The TV contract, every NFL's team cut. Oh, yeah. Hey, so, wait, 425 million for every team? How much we getting out of that? We don't own no team. And, Ocho, now, that's the TV cut. Now, we didn't say nothing about you selling tickets. We didn't say nothing about the local advertising. We didn't say nothing about local TV, local sponsorship. We didn't say nothing about parking. and we ain't say nothing by concession. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It add up. You ain't got to tell me twice. I understand the business side of things. I just don't like to talk about it. Okay. Browns general manager Andrew Barry said today that he was noncommittal on the team's starting quarterback for 2026 and that a new head coach will have a say in the decision.

59:12Shannon Sharpe:Barry said we're going to do our work on the quarterback market. It's too important of a position, and it's something that has to be solidified. I can't sit here and tell you today whether the starter in 2026 is internal or external. But it's something that we're going to work through over the next several weeks. And quite honestly, the new head coach will also have a lot of input into that. Ocho, you see what he's saying? Yes, talk to me. He said, it's too important a position. He said, I can't sit here today and tell you an internal left corner. Oh, Andrew Barry said today that he was noncommittal on the starting quarterback for the 2026 season.

59:52Shannon Sharpe:Right. And the new head coach will have a say. He should have the say. He got a coach. You see what I'm saying, don't you? You see what he did? Yeah. He going to put, again, going to put somebody on the head coach that maybe the head coach doesn't want. And then I'm stuck. Yeah. It's like your grandma used to put that plate down for you. Man, I don't want that. Okay, do without.

1:00:17But obviously, obviously, Andrew Barry, They've made mistakes when it comes to picking. How you still got a job?

1:00:23Shannon Sharpe:And I don't advocate anybody getting fired, Ocho. Anybody getting fired, right. I'm just saying. Okay, Stefanski, and I'm not saying Stefanski didn't deserve to go, but I'm saying, who hired Stefanski? Who brought all those players in? He did. So he bring all those players in. He stays and gets to hire another coach. Okay. And that's why they feel comfortable taking responsibility for all the losing. Because there's nothing that's going to happen to those who own. They're going to keep recycling, coach after coach, quarterback after quarterback. At some point. Until they get it right. Let me ask you a question, Joe.

1:01:07Shannon Sharpe:So let me get this right. Jimmy Haslam stood before the press today and said eight wins over the last two seasons is unacceptable. is it unacceptable for the guy that hired that coach

1:01:22Shannon Sharpe:last I checked I mean you ain't get him off a hiring app

1:01:31Shannon Sharpe:I mean maybe it was Zip Recruiter you know you get these people copy all the emails and all these different hiring agencies I heard you looking for work where you hear that from I mean you know you know what the issue is. All these coaches that's getting fired, when coaches get fired in general, I mean, it all comes down to one common denominator. You don't have the goddamn players you need to have success. Because Sean McVay ain't going nowhere. Bill Belichick lasted 20 years. Look at all the coaches that have had long, sustaining careers. They've always been able to compete. But Stan Kroenke, Sean McVay says, look, I understand you took this guy number one, but I can't win with him.

1:02:13Shannon Sharpe:I've gone as far as I can go with him. We need to do something. Now you tell me, what other coach is going to have an input that says, you know what, we're going to trade our number one pick. Give up first rounders. We need Matt Stafford. How many owners are going to do that, Ocho?

1:02:32Shannon Sharpe:The Raiders have fired their head coach, Pete Carroll, after just one season. Carroll said the Raiders would win a bunch of games in his first season. Instead, the Raiders finished 3-14. had a check but they got that number one pick the Raiders were at the bottom of almost every category offensively and defense the unit finished 31st in pressures rate 27th and sack despite Max Crosby having 10 this season the Raiders are also looking to have a financial advisor that's what you should Ocho think about all the coaches and they owe Antonio Pierce 8 million Josh McDaniel 10 million. John Gruden 10 million.

1:03:09Shannon Sharpe:Pete Carroll 16 million. Chip Kelly 6 million. And you got to bring another head coach in and his staff got to pay them. Yeah, but listen, if they need to hire a Joe, if they need to hire a financial advisor, I'm right where they need to come. I'm right. I'm exactly who they need to call. Hey, listen, if there's anything I can get them out of that. Don't worry about that. I can get them out of that. If there's anybody that knows and that's financially conscious and very savvy when it comes to spending and making sure it's me. It's too late, Ojo. It's me. Well, listen, it might be too late, but I will make sure they won't make any more goddamn mistakes in overspending from this point on.

1:03:52Now, bring me in the building. Well, here's the thing. When you fire a coach, you ain't got no choice.

1:03:57Shannon Sharpe:You're on the hook for his book, for his money. Well, listen, we're going to be a lot more cautious on who we hire and making sure we allow that contract. You could have hired Bill Belichick. That quarterback situation, you're going to be right here. Oh, yeah, you're right. Hey, so if you're the Raiders, though, do you get one of these kids coming out the draft? They're going to? Because I don't believe – Oh, Joe, at some point in time, you've got to stop trying to get stuff. You've got to stop trying to – like we used to call it secondhand. Joe, you don't have to talk about secondhand. don't second hand bet it was a long time before i had a new car by something myself that somebody had to pass gas in it i want to be the first one to pass gas in this car so oh you know you getting second hand stuff i think they need to move on from that second hand and get a quarterback of their own and where he gonna come from look the kid from indiana or the kid from the uh oregon they're coming out it's too much money not to

1:05:03that ain't gonna get it is old joke no you put them you put them young bulls in that environment have you seen organ's team have you seen indiana and what you think gonna happen to either one of them if they go to the raiders what is going what they gonna look like you already know look they're

1:05:22Shannon Sharpe:they're a long ways away they need they need offensive line um they need defensive players Look, you got to trade Max Crosby. He's the only thing. That's the only thing of value that you have that can bring you back draft compensation to help you build up. That's the only thing of value you got. That's the only thing that you can trade. So you're going to have to trade him and get a first and a third and a second next year. Right. And you got a first this year, but also you got to hit. You got to hit.

1:05:59and that's the hard part. Yeah. It's making sure it's like going to the goddamn casino, playing roulette. You know? Roulette? You never know. Huh?

1:06:09Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, it's the same thing, though. Yeah, I get you. Yeah, you spin the wheel and drop the ball in there. Yeah, with the black and the red. I get it, yeah. And the numbers, yeah. What it's called? Roulette. Roulette. Man, come on, man. Why y 'all always correcting me, man? Yeah, look, you got Brock Bowers. He's one of your top tight ends in the league. So you got a pass catching tight end. You need a receiver. You went into the draft. You got a back last year. You need somebody to block for the back. You need somebody to block for your quarterback. You got Christie, Max Crosby, that he can – you're not trading Brock Bowers.

1:06:49Shannon Sharpe:The reason why I didn't mention him is because you're not trading him. No. No, not a chance. Max Crosby is the guy that you can trade and get that can help you build this thing back up. Because that's really the only thing that you have a value that you're willing to move.

1:07:10Shannon Sharpe:You got to start with that foundational piece, Ocho. At the end of the day, I mean, if you got a house, Ocho, what you going to get? What's the first thing you going to buy? What can't you live without? I'm hoping you save furniture I will give you I give you$500 and you got to get one piece

1:07:35Shannon Sharpe:in the house

1:07:40TV

1:07:42Shannon Sharpe:man that's accessory not when you got a phone I can watch all that stuff on my phone I mean okay okay then that's a good one huh because the first thing i'm thinking about by getting the house is if i need some furniture i got to have some with a lay lay my head and a tv i'm trying to think what else um i can speak for a big spirits i bought a house to me it was over budget joe you know what i'm saying my people told me say uh shannon you can spend 425 thousand i said i got you 425 oh i give me a big old high for 425. first house the lady showed me was 625. i said why you show me this house you know i can't afford this let's go somewhere else but i said before we go somewhere let me look around you know what i said i said joe archo i said before we go since we here now i might as well look around right i put my hands in my pockets i walk in there yeah hey that's the game they play on oh man big old i ain't never seen no walk-in shower yeah yeah yeah i mean our towels were the same place my jeans were you know i could go get a pair of jeans they ain't get a towel so you know what i'm saying i ain't never seen no linen closet linen yeah so i'm like yeah I walk down, she open the door, I go down, I say, that's a basement.

1:09:06Shannon Sharpe:I say, what is that? At the time, I didn't know what it was. I said, what is this called? She say, it's a basement and it's finished. I say, huh? I walk it down there, carpeting. 3 ,000 square foot. I said, damn. I could just imagine what I could be doing in here. Yeah. A lot of trampoline action. You know what I'm saying? on your trampoline your boy your boy was young i was 24 25 now i figured trampoline i said okay i said okay this is a little bit out of my budget let me see the other houses you know i said joe i said let me see the other way hey that 425 ain't gonna hit nothing like that okay she said well okay mr sharp this is like this is like 435 to 450.

1:09:53Shannon Sharpe:she's so she i saw those house i walked in have my hand in the pocket just like this right here

1:10:02Shannon Sharpe:i don't want this i go to the other with y 'all jump same thing hands in my pocket i look around i said let's go back and look at the other house one more time let's look at the first house you showed me that first one you showed me she said are you sure mr shark because they told me the budget. Yeah, yeah. I go back there, I started thinking. I said, I'm right here in the heart of Buckhead. Man. I'm right there, I can walk to Phipps Plaza, I can walk to Lenox Mall. Yes, sir. I can walk to the movie theaters that's in Phipps Plaza. Because back then, Joe, I don't know if you remember, when you got there, they used to have a movie theater in Lenox Mall.

1:10:46Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Until old boy got shot, a dude got shot there. But you didn't want to go there. I'll tell you about that later, Joe. But anyway, I said, whew. I was thinking about it. I remember she dropped me back. At the time, she dropped me back at the hotel. Yeah. She said, what you think, Mr. Sharp? I said, I think I'm about to be over budget.

1:11:15Shannon Sharpe:I said, I think I'm about to be over budget. Hey, that's how they get you. You know who I bought the house from, Joe? Sugar Ray Leonard's ex-wife, Juanita. I did. Well, they got you. Hey, they got you just how they got me. How they got you, Joe? Oh, Joe, I'm out here supposed to be looking for me a nice little townhouse. I just come from Phoenix. Yes, sir. I'm moving out here to Atlanta. Okay. They say, man, you know, Sharif Abdul Rahim, he just built this house out here in Sandy Springs. Yes, sir. He ain't been living in it six months. I said, well, we can go by there and check it out. We come by here.

1:11:55Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, I'm still in the house of this day. We come by here, Ocho.

1:12:04Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, we come by here. They got the chef in there. He got everything whipped up. Right. Man, I'm probably looking at a townhouse. This is$14 ,000 square feet. look you ain't finna take me go look at no town that's all this i don't know why you right oh why not start with the 425s first right why you start with this it's like i'm about to go today hold on time out time out time out time out let's slow down a little bit because joe just threw that out there like i like we me in the chat and hear him just say i'm just keeping it 100. feet i'm just keeping it 100. 14 000 square feet what boy you in buckingham palace what oh joe oh joe oh joe listen look boy i had to have a long talk with my mama about this hey joe hey joe i got to i got to come out there and holla at you bro you gotta come see me come see me yeah i want hey you like you say your property that's a property there ain't no house here you go hey oh joe yeah i've been blessed oh joe It ain't just a house.

1:13:09Shannon Sharpe:I got three kids. All of them are the names of three. Ooh. I was like, man, how am I going to make this work? I was like, ooh. I said, man, boy, Ocho, I swear for God and two white men, I was eating ketchup with a nick needle. Man, look here. Man, I ain't never ate so much tuna, oatmeal, and eggs in my life. Man, I went to Sam's. I would buy like seven, eight dozen, like 20 dozen eggs at a time. I was getting cake. I was getting pallets of tuna. That's all I could eat. I got to pay for the house. I got to pay child support. That's all I could eat. Hey, hey, listen, you got to make, you got to sacrifice, huh?

1:13:53You wanted that house. I had to. Listen, I understand your pain. I've been there before. Maybe not, maybe not to that extent, but listen, we've all had the sacrifice. something, but something else that we like and we love. We appreciate at that time, knowing it's out our budget. Knowing good and well, because we know it's coming.

1:14:17Shannon Sharpe:Ain't had no tape. We know it's coming. Ain't had no tape, nothing to eat off. I didn't. I had a couch and I had a bed. That's all I had for. Hey, Ang, hey look, hey, hey, that shit had you working hard as I don't know what. I had a king side bed. I had a king side bed. what's that you remember the furniture store Huffs Joe right there on Ladies Road by that church it used to be a glass it was a big glass building right there

1:14:49Shannon Sharpe:but the furniture that's where it all all the high end black entertainers they used to go get their furniture yeah yeah you probably spent the prison but you know I had to get I had to go get me back. I had to go get me back. I had to go get me back. I had to go get me back. I had a bed now, but you know, my bed was black lacquer. Black lacquer. And it light up like an infinity. And hold on, you had LED lights? Yeah, yeah, before it was cool, before it was in style. Right. And let me tell you what I did. Let me tell you what I had, Ocho. I splurried a little bit. I went all in. I was eating ketchup with a knit needle.

1:15:32Shannon Sharpe:Come on. Take your time. I had me a leather comforter. Custom made for the bed. Leather? They got what? Leather. Leather comforter. Custom for the bed. Yeah. Then I did a card signing. You know I did a card signing. You know back then you saw a card signing card. They gave your boy a little money. I signed like 2 ,000 cars got me about 12 ,500 bought me some satin sheets satin how about this here man I see them in the movies how they run jump in the bed how I go jump in the bed and slide my ass all the way to the other side on the floor I win I say oh man this don't look good this ain't functional Blue Moon?

1:16:25Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, hold up. But why you talking though? Okay, Ocho, y 'all still don't do card signings? I do every Blue Moon, Joe. Cause back then, you know, my brother would take me like, they want my brother, he had just, in the beginning, they wanted my brother because he had won the Triple Crown, he was an all pro, 100 catch season, back to back 100 catch season, so they wanted him. And the only way he would go do the signing, they had to take me. So they throw you more$2 ,500, $5 ,000. Right, right, right. I mean, one time I signed $10 ,000 cards. Damn. And one sin, they gave you three months. Yeah.

1:17:11Shannon Sharpe:Oh, to get through it? Okay, okay. I had a couch. I had no TV. But I had a bed. The bed was nice. I'm just saying the bed was nice the bed was nice yeah hey I'm still doing card signings in this day boy I still sign a lot boy I look back I think by some time now I just be laying down like damn this thing could have went sideways in a hurry I ain't have no choice you were shooting up yeah I was shooting up but I got three kids, they in daycare, and I still gotta take care of granny, I still gotta take care of Libby, mom every once in a while, plus the kids, that's my number one responsibility. So if I gotta do without, I'm cool.

1:18:08Shannon Sharpe:People's like, man, I could train myself, I'll go a couple days without eating, hair be killing you. Right. Hair be killing you if you're so hungry. but I say nah I gotta put myself in a situation cause if I ever have to not be able to eat I'm gonna be good with it hey it's a lot of people they ain't gonna be able to understand what you're saying no no no Joe it's a lot of us who have been there and done that hey Joe the funny thing about it is the people aren't gonna understand because they've only seen the finished product they've only seen the finished product they've only seen you on Sundays they don't understand the walk you took and the path you took to get to where you are.

1:18:49They don't understand the sacrifices that came along that goddamn journey before you got to what you see on Sundays. They'll never get it.

1:19:00Shannon Sharpe:They'll never get it. When I coined the phrase to me, I wore summer clothes. I told them when I went to college, I said, man, I wore summer clothes. Man, look at me and say, what you mean summer clothes? Some of my brothers, some of my uncles, some of my cousins. Hey, they just passed that thing on down. I'm like they so spanking with us last year I got the way man listen when it got too small for me that's the jeans they cut up and you know back then you know you're on your knees you put holes in your knees in jeans my grandma was some jeans that had gotten too small for me man all that stitching come on granny

1:19:46Shannon Sharpe:This when you was in college. No, I was coming up in school. I was coming up. But no, when I was in college, you know, look, I went to college. I had matching luggage. I had two Piggly Wiggly bags with everything I own inside of them. I had matching luggage, Ocho. Piggly Wiggly. No, it might have been Winn-Dex at the time. They changed the name to Piggly Wiggly. But I had two brown bags. You don't believe me? That's past the board. I went to college class of 86. That's what we call ourselves, 86. Asked them how I showed up. Two Winn-Dixie Brown grocery bags. I had everything I owned in those bags.

1:20:24Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I believe, boy. I ain't had much in there when I went to college neither. I ain't gonna lie to you. I used to wear the crap out of them Arkansas Razorback sweats, Ocho. I'm talking about all kind of stuff on them sweats. Hey, like it was designed, uh-huh. Man, what you talking about? And you remember, like in the dorm, you had like, we had one washer, we had two washers, two dryers. Now, think about it. You got, you might got 70 guys, two washers, two dryers. So guess what happened? Guess what happened? If your stuff, you're not there to see it. It's gonna be on the side. It's gonna be on talk.

1:21:10Shannon Sharpe:If somebody else's stuff in there, and you just hope your best eyes on your shirt and your best stuff, you see somebody with, come on, you know that's me. Hey, hey, hey, you already know though. When you down there washing them clothes in college, you got to stay down there with it. You gotta stay down there with it. Oh, yeah. You can't put the style of them clothes and tell me you finna go to your home. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey, that was the best thing on show. When I got a girlfriend, I got a girlfriend my junior year. Yeah. Hey, you thought, hey. Hey, she take care of everything. Took care of everything, washed it, folded up.

1:21:43Shannon Sharpe:Cause you know, I'm just washing. Hey, I'm dumping everything in there together. Throwing powder in there. Yeah. Hey, you ain't separating nothing. You washing white, and blacks, and colors. The only thing I didn't have is bleach. I just knew you couldn't put bleach in color. But everything else, hey, Tide. That's the only thing we always use. We only use Tide. We have no fabric softener. We have nothing. Static and socks stuck to my jeans. I have my four pair of socks stuck to my jeans.

1:22:17Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all know what I'm talking about. I ain't the only one. Hey, I remember those days. Hey, that's throwback. Oh, Joe, is it rare to see Pete Carroll? Because the one thing we know about Pete Carroll, he can rebuild. Look at what he did at USC. Look at what he did at Seattle. Are you surprised that they didn't give him more time to try to get this thing turned around than one year? No, absolutely not. I'm not surprised at all. Obviously, because where they were ranked offensively and defensively, I'm not sure if the players were responding to Pete Carroll. Obviously, I think they want to go a little bit younger when it comes to the coaching staff that they that they want to bring in.

1:22:56They want to go in a completely different direction. Obviously, I love Pete. I love what Pete has been able to do at the NFL level, at the collegiate level. But it's obvious that Tom and others that are making those calls in that building want to go much younger to another coach where the players are a little bit more receptive to what they have to say. But think about what he had in Seattle.

1:23:19Shannon Sharpe:They get Russ. They get Sherm. They get B. Wags. They get Cliff Averill. They get Earl Thomas. They got Cam. Look at what they're doing now. They trade for beast mode. They draft those receivers. Kers and Baldwin. You see? Look at what they got. Now you got Russ. Now you got a nucleus. What a nucleus is in Vegas? It ain't Mack Crosby.

1:23:51Shannon Sharpe:Brock Bowles, even though it's early. And with that, it wasn't until they got the quarterback with Russ that they were able in par with that legion of boom, they get Michael Bennett you know they get Michael Bennett and they get you know Malcolm Smith and they get a couple of these other guys and voila yeah that took time now team they give you no time now Ocho

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