Best of NFL Week 2 Part 2: Marvin Harrison Jr. a BUST? + Davante Adams HOF? + Deshaun Watson-LED win for Browns

23 Sep 2026 · 53 min · 25 chapters

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The episode is a “Best of NFL Week 2 Part 2” recap focused on several games and player storylines. Main topics include: Ravens’ blown lead vs the Saints (24-17) and whether the Ravens got “hosed,” especially after Derrick Henry’s heavy first-half usage but only five carries in the second half; Browns’ 23-19 win over the Buccaneers led by Deshaun Watson (24-30, 238 yards, 2 TD, no turnovers) and the idea that the supporting cast (Denzel Boston, Hal Fannin Jr.) showed up; Seahawks’ 31-7 win over the Cardinals with Drew Lock’s 3-TD performance and JSN’s historic start; Raiders’ 26-14 win over the Chargers with Kirk Cousins’ 3 TD/1 INT and criticism of Justin Herbert’s struggles; and debate over Marvin Harrison Jr. “bust” concerns (1 catch on 1 target early in the Seahawks game) plus whether Davante Adams is a Hall of Fame lock.

Guests

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ocho” Ochocinco (co-hosts).

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Saints vs. Ravens Recap

1:30 to 1:59

An analysis of the Saints' comeback win over the Ravens and Shook's performance.

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Saints vs. Ravens Recap

2:02 to 2:17

An analysis of the Saints' comeback win over the Ravens and Shook's performance.

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Saints vs. Ravens Recap

2:36 to 4:08

An analysis of the Saints' comeback win over the Ravens and Shook's performance.

“Tyler Shook had a big-time fourth quarter cut leading.”

Derrick Henry's Limited Carries

4:08 to 5:58

Discussion on why Derrick Henry had limited carries despite the game situation.

“The Cowboys only had two possessions in their first week game in the second half.”

Ravens' Offensive Struggles

5:58 to 7:48

Debate over the Ravens' inability to score in the second half and the play calling behind it.

“Hey, and the Ravens only put up three points in the second half, Uncle Ocho.”

Blown Leads and Fourth Quarter Issues

7:48 to 9:30

Exploration of the Ravens' history of blowing leads and critical moments in games.

“Hey, I'm with you too, because think about it.”

Lamar Jackson's Performance

9:30 to 11:40

Review of Lamar Jackson's performance and accountability for the Ravens' loss.

“Your team lost today, and you beat me in fantasy.”

Future Matchup Predictions

11:40 to 14:00

Predictions and expectations for upcoming games, focusing on team dynamics.

“Think about over the last three years how many blown fourth quarter leagues they've had.”

Blame Game in Ravens' Performance

14:00 to 14:25

Discussion on the blame directed at John Harbaugh for last year's Ravens' struggles.

“Because last year, a Ravens fan, y 'all was killing John Harbaugh.”

Blame Game in Ravens' Performance

16:12 to 17:11

Discussion on the blame directed at John Harbaugh for last year's Ravens' struggles.

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Blame Game in Ravens' Performance

17:15 to 18:15

Discussion on the blame directed at John Harbaugh for last year's Ravens' struggles.

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Analyzing Jalen Waddell's Performance

18:15 to 20:06

Overview of Jalen Waddell's achievements and impact on the game.

“Jalen Waddell showed why the Broncos went out, gave him a first-round pick to get him.”

Evaluating Deshaun Watson's Game

20:22 to 28:00

Discussion on Deshaun Watson's performance leading the Browns to victory.

“Hey, Unc, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball.”

Deshaun Watson's Performance Under Pressure

28:00 to 30:06

Learn about Deshaun Watson's impressive play during a challenging game.

“But I give Deshaun credit under the circumstances and the pressure that he's playing under to be able to come out.”

Coaching Honesty in the NFL

30:06 to 32:43

Explore the need for authenticity and honesty from coaches and players.

“Baker, you did a wise thing signing that contract, bro.”

Drew Locke's Impact as a Backup

32:43 to 35:45

Discuss Drew Locke's performance as a backup quarterback for the Seahawks.

“The way they talk now, we've kind of lost the quorum.”

Marvin Harrison Jr.'s Struggles

35:45 to 40:09

Analyze Marvin Harrison Jr.'s performance issues and expectations as a receiver.

“Remember, he came in, what, third play of the game last week and got a victory.”

Raiders' Surprise Start to the Season

40:09 to 42:01

Review the unexpected early success of the Raiders this season.

“I never hear him talk in press conferences.”

Raiders' Unexpected Success and Herbert's Struggles

42:01 to 45:39

Discussing the surprising start of the Raiders and the performance issues of Justin Herbert.

“And today, and so many times before, he hasn't been.”

Raiders' Unexpected Success and Herbert's Struggles

47:27 to 50:01

Discussing the surprising start of the Raiders and the performance issues of Justin Herbert.

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Devontae Adams' Hall of Fame Prospects

51:24 to 56:00

Analyzing Devontae Adams' career and discussing Hall of Fame candidacy alongside historical comparisons.

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The Impact of Social Media on Voices

56:00 to 1:02:10

Discussing how social media amplifies voices and opinions in the sports world.

“If you have a voice, if you have a voice and a platform.”

Devontae Adams vs. Hall of Famers

1:02:10 to 1:02:43

Analyzing Devontae Adams' potential to reach Hall of Fame status compared to legends.

“How far is he from Chris Carter and Moss?”

Comparing Touchdowns of NFL Greats

1:02:43 to 1:03:29

Examining touchdown statistics of Adams against legends like T.O. and Randy Moss.

“He's going to have to play another couple years to get that one.”

Comparing Touchdowns of NFL Greats

1:05:57 to 1:06:22

Examining touchdown statistics of Adams against legends like T.O. and Randy Moss.

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2:36Shannon Sharpe:The Saints defeated the Ravens 24-17. Another blown lead for the Ravens. Tyler Shook had a big-time fourth quarter cut leading. The Saints to a comeback win over the Ravens. In the fourth quarter, Shook was 12-14, 119 yards, a pass touchdown, and a rushing touchdown. He finished the game 27-34, 252, one rushing TD, one passing TD. The question is, we all saw it, did Childish Shook get in? Did the Ravens get hosed?

3:06Joe Johnson:Hey, Unc. Hey, Joe. He think he's sick. He tried to run. Nah, where that damn Raven's helmet at?

3:16Shannon Sharpe:Where that damn Raven's helmet at? Huh? I don't know where the Raven's helmet at. Hey, it's right up. Get that damn Raven's helmet.

3:26Shannon Sharpe:Oh, it's Bronco country, man. You know it's Bronco country. There y 'all go. What happened to the flock? What happened to the flock? Man, hey, they gave a... I need somebody to help me understand. Derrick Henry had 11 carries, 55 yards in the first half. He had five carries in the second half, and you were up. So I want to know why y 'all limited Derrick Henry carries. We keep – it doesn't matter who the head coach is, but for some reason, or who's the play caller, but for some reason, you mean to tell me Derrick Henry can't – that's all he can get? That's all he can get, five carries in the second half?

4:10Hey.

4:11Shannon Sharpe:Hey, the same city.

4:12Joe Johnson:not today. That's what the Saints said.

4:15Shannon Sharpe:The Cowboys only had two possessions in their first week game in the second half. So that don't surprise me. That don't surprise me. But you got to feed that horse, man. You got to feed that horse. Yes. Because Zay Flowers was hurt. He didn't play today, right? Nope. Yeah, man. You got to let these dogs, especially these running back early in the season, Uncle Ocho, just like how Kansas City relied on K-9. Man, I don't know why. Uh, Derrick Henry ain't getting at least 20 carries a night. Boy, I be handing that thing off to them left and right. You supposed to. What? Hey, and while you bulljiving, Ocho, I beat the brakes off you in fantasy.

4:55Shannon Sharpe:Oh, did you? Hold on, hold on, hold on.

4:58Joe Johnson:Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't want to talk about fantasy. I want to talk about them Ravens that got lost. But go ahead and talk about them. They lost in them Saints. What happened?

5:08Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, oh, oh. Hey, oh, oh, oh, oh. You got to chill. Now, for real. Now, for real. You got to chill. Hey, y 'all see that comeback we had?

5:24Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all saw that comeback we had on Travel Orange? Shut him. Hey.

5:29Joe Johnson:Hey. We talking about the Saints. We talking about the Saints-Ravens game right now. No, no, no, no.

5:35Shannon Sharpe:No. I think, look, the Ravens, I don't know why Derek Henry, I need somebody to tell me why you only got 22 carries. Derrick Henry's supposed to have that by his damn self. Now we're going to get Lamar Jackson six to eight carries on a bad day, possibly 10. You got 22 carries? You got Derrick Henry's your back.

6:02Hey, and the Ravens only put up three points in the second half,

6:07Shannon Sharpe:Uncle Ocho. Yes. With that high-power offense. I know you big play receivers, Zahe out, but, hell, you got Action Jackson back there. You know what I mean? Yes, yes. Come on, man. I second that notion. Man, ain't no way you supposed to go on no scoring drought like that. You got Derrick Henry. You got Lamar Jackson in your backfield, and you give me three points in the second half? Damn. You give Derrick Henry the best pure running back in football, and you give him five carries in the second half? Y 'all been going through this for the last two years. Why? Ride him. You know, I don't like that.

6:56Joe Johnson:I don't like that, Joe. What? What don't you like? Because he steadily talking about what the Ravens didn't do. Let's talk about what the Saints did. The Saints did. Huh?

7:05Shannon Sharpe:Ocho. Let's talk about what the Saints did. The Saints can't stop me from handing the ball to him. I control that.

7:12Joe Johnson:Hey, but hold on. You got to think about it. If they didn't hand the ball to him in the second half after having 55 yards in the first half, that means the Saints did something to dictate, okay, we're not going to allow this no more. So they obviously did something.

7:24Shannon Sharpe:They did something to the passing game too. That's like you remember you said you got upset with the offense because we let them dictate who going to get the ball, how many times we going to throw it. Joe, you remember he said that? You got upset when they were dictating when you're going to get the ball or when we throw it or when we run it. So you don't think Derrick Henry should be upset? Yes, sir. Let the Saints dictate when he got the ball and how many times he got it?

7:50Joe Johnson:Okay, I'm with you, right? I'm with you.

7:52Shannon Sharpe:Hey, I'm with you too, because think about it. When you get in the dog days of the season, midseason, week nine, week ten, you're going to look back at games like this and be like, damn. Yes. A game that we had to leave, we had to weave up. at home?

8:07Joe Johnson:Yeah. Honestly, you know what? I think if y 'all was to play, let's say, if y 'all was to play the Saints again tomorrow, the Saints would probably beat y 'all again. And that's on Messi's mind. That's how I feel. That's how I feel. Because he's been doing all this talk about the Saints, Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry, and the defense is improving. What they going to do? And Marlon Humphrey this and Nate Wiggins that. Roquan Smith ain't nothing. Hold that L. Did that man get in the end zone? That L stand for Louisiana. Did that man get in the end zone? Hey, who that?

8:45Shannon Sharpe:Did that man get in the end zone? Did Tyler Shook get in the end zone? Yeah. You just saying that.

8:53Joe Johnson:Hold on, I got a question. Did they count it as a touchdown? They counted it. Do we have VAR? they should have wait what is it in the NFL what is the replay we got instant replay right what is the replay

9:08Shannon Sharpe:they didn't say nothing

9:10Joe Johnson:it said it was in the end zone so guess what that means oh you feeling good he feeling good he feeling good he feeling good Joe you know it hey hold on whoa whoa whoa let's not do that let's not do that because I told you yeah yeah yeah you said you called it you called it you called it I told you you called it okay Hey, come on. I'm telling you. Hey, Ocho Domis. Here we go. Listen to me when I talk to you. Now, Unc, I let you. Your team lost today, and you beat me in fantasy. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You beat me in fantasy. A team. Wait, wait. Huh? You got to understand, Unc, this is fantasy football.

9:45Joe Johnson:This is not a sprint. This is a marathon. So you winning today means nothing on the back end. And Unc.

9:49Shannon Sharpe:And I still got two guys to play. I got two. I got three guys. Who you got to play? Who you got for the Giants? I ain't for the Giants. You ain't got nobody on the Giants. I got somebody for the Giants. I got two people for the Giants. I ain't playing you. You already done beat Ash. I'm whooping on Ash ain't a man. You ain't bad, are you? Ash, every person Ash have has done gotten hurt. She got Saquon, he got hurt. She got DJ Moore, he got hurt. She got Jane Daniels, he got hurt. Oh, man. And we're not laughing at the injury, but I'm just saying, Ash, bad luck. damn

10:30Joe Johnson:yeah hey matter of fact you know we talked about the Colts game I forgot Alec Pierce got hurt yes

10:34Shannon Sharpe:is he yeah I hope it wasn't

10:38Joe Johnson:you know what I'm not even gonna see because I don't want to

10:40Shannon Sharpe:put that in the universe he just coming back off injury because he missed he missed Lamar Jackson was 21 to 31 235 one touchdown one interception only 34 yards on the guard Derrick Henry 68 yards one touchdown only had five carries in the second half and the Ravens led 14-3 at half Here's Lamar addressing the blown fourth quarter lead.

11:03Joe Johnson:Things just don't go our way sometimes at the wrong times. That's what I believe. You know, certain calls happening, you know, we get the momentum going, get brought back, you know, penalties here and there. Anything can go down. You know, that's what I believe. We haven't been finishing or, you know, we have the lead and we don't have it anymore. Just got to tighten up. We were just trying to make something happen. And, you know, our guys were just – it was the same group of guys out there. You know, I feel like there was a little fatigue. And then how our players, it was a timing thing. I feel like I want that pass back, though.

11:35Joe Johnson:You know, I feel like I want that pass back. But –

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11:41Joe Johnson:Which pass did you refer to? Interception.

11:44Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

11:44Joe Johnson:Oh, 31.

11:45Shannon Sharpe:Oh, that one. Okay. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. But, Ocho, this is a reoccurring theme. Think about over the last three years how many blown fourth quarter leagues they've had. Remember they had that big lead on Buffalo. They had the big lead on Miami. Remember, Miami came all the way back, ended up having like 400, two would pass for damn near 500 yards. They had like a 21-point lead there. That's what the Dolphins do. Boy, y 'all might not win a game.

12:14Shannon Sharpe:Boy, y 'all good and terrible. I don't know who, right now, I don't know who works. Y 'all are the Chargers.

12:20Joe Johnson:Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Time out. Now, if I'm not mistaken, the Ravens lost today just like the Dolphins lost today. It doesn't matter how bad. Y 'all ain't won yet, though. Y 'all won the game? Yeah, they won Indy last week. Indy?

12:37Shannon Sharpe:Indy?

12:38Joe Johnson:You mean the same Indy that just lost tonight?

12:40Shannon Sharpe:Yes.

12:44Shannon Sharpe:I mean, y 'all beat the Houston Texans, the same Houston Texans that lost last week? Hold on. You mean that? Wait, wait, wait.

12:50Joe Johnson:And we just beat Tampa Bay? It's the same team? Matter of fact, let me finish. Let me finish. Chat. Everybody in the chat. Not only that, you know we're going to go 3-0 because you know who we got next, right? We got the Steelers. Did you see the Steelers? Boy, they look terrible.

13:06Shannon Sharpe:Ooh.

13:11Shannon Sharpe:They did look terrible. They look bad today, boy. Boy, Aaron Rodgers looked every bit of 42. Hey, hey, hey. You ain't lying. You ain't lying because his pocket presence ain't nothing like it used to be. What? And he's talking about the taller players. We'll get to him. I'm sure we're going to address that. But did the Ravens get too cute in the second half, Joe? They had to, huh? Because you ain't feeding the beast and dead Henry that should be carrying you at this point without Zay Flowers out there. I don't know what they were doing. What were they doing? Were they designing run plays for Lamar?

13:46Shannon Sharpe:How did they go a whole second? Lamar only had four rushes. They had 22 carries. They had 22 carries amongst the team. Derrick Henry had 16 of those. The same thing. Now, who they going to blame? Because last year, a Ravens fan, y 'all was killing John Harbaugh. Y 'all say Harbaugh sucked. It's the same thing. Y 'all blowing the fourth quarter leads again.

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20:32Shannon Sharpe:Duval. Hey, JVL, stand up. What y 'all talking? Y 'all had so much to say last year. Hey, Unc, I don't want to hear you say foot or ball. If you from Jacksonville or surrounding counties, don't even, hey, y 'all already know. Y 'all can't say pigskin. Say oblong object. Hey, if you a Jags, this one hurt, boy, considering the fact they had that lead. Let them folks go 14 on that supports in that fourth quarter. You can't answer if you don't know it. You can't answer what you don't know, Joe. I know, but they had Jacksonville had control of the game, though, for three quarters. We let them get out there to make them feel good.

21:17Shannon Sharpe:And he left them boys in striking distance.

21:20Joe Johnson:That's what it was. Yeah, they spotted them. You spotted them. Spot them and track them down.

21:28Shannon Sharpe:They came and got them like the 400, huh? Boy, y 'all know them bloodhouses. We done got the bloodhounds out there to track him down. Yeah. Okay. They were patient in that fourth quarter. Your boy Bo Nix came through for you. Yeah, you saw that? You saw Bo? Yeah. Yeah. You feeling good, Joe. Look at it. Look, it's funny how you real gloating over this win from the Broncos. You know what I'm saying? When last week, hell, you had your little Ravens helmet down there. You know, you. Joe, Joe, Joe. Come on, Joe. I got two teams you know that Joe yeah but listen you ain't really talking too much about your other team we already talked about them we discussed them okay y 'all want to talk about the Broncos how we look today you see that weather

22:25Shannon Sharpe:we got what we got a hell of a schedule though Whoo. Who y 'all got next? I don't even wanna talk about our schedule, man. Who y 'all got next? We don't even matter, they gonna catch this L. I'm just saying they just made it more difficult than what it needed to be to start the season. But you know, we play, line them up, we knock them down. Okay, okay. All you talking, boy. Line them up, you remember think like a man? Line them up, hey, hey, what's up? Line them up, you knock them down. Yeah.

23:03Hey,

23:05Shannon Sharpe:we got the Rams on Sunday night or Monday night? Sunday night. Play the Rams next week, Sunday night. Oh, yeah. I know the Rams want some get back. Oh, the Rams play tonight. The Rams play tomorrow. They got the Giants.

23:20Joe Johnson:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they definitely. Yeah, that's the L for y 'all. Look at that. Look at that. He's so happy. Hey.

23:28Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Hey, you ain't going to be able to tell him nothing, boy. You ain't going to be able to keep that boy quiet. Look at it.

23:34Joe Johnson:He's so happy. Hey, Joe, he too happy right now. So you know the football guys, you know, got to humble.

23:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, I already know it, Ojo. Why they got to humble you? You was happy earlier. You all in Houston. I was at Kirby and Chapman. I mean, Chapman and Kirby, whatever it is. Yeah, I was there. You know, just say, hey, I want to thank y 'all. Hey, Cincinnati, you put y 'all shoulder for your boy. I bet you know what I'm saying. It's so good to be there. Every time, he all on my timeline. I said, I didn't know Suge Knight was a football fan. He hugging everybody, all of the cameras.

24:15Shannon Sharpe:We did a number on him. We did a number on him. Y 'all did, man. I don't know about a number. If we don't stop committing all them damn penalties. Sean, you coaching this? 10 penalties again? Think about the penalties they had last week against Kansas City. You either coaching it or you condoning it. Which one you doing? They got to get a rhythm, huh? Them boys ain't played no preseason here. They only got game action, so you going to have to deal with some penalties here and now. They gave Jacksonville, they got, Jay gave Jacksonville four first downs on penalties. Man. Play good teams, man. They get you beat there.

25:02Shannon Sharpe:All day long. Twice on Sunday. But it's all good. You know, we won. Bronco country. Stand up. Hey, the football guys ain't going to like that, bro. I'm just going to keep it real with you because I know some people ain't going to be 100 with you, but the football guys ain't going to like how you flip-flop. Why they ain't like that? What I do? Because you flip-flopping. How you flip-flopping? The football guys ain't going to like that. Oh, Lord have mercy. So the team that I won Super Bowls with, I ain't supposed to cheer for them.

25:37Shannon Sharpe:I ain't saying that. I'm just saying you have a way of cheering for them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. I'll be cheering for Baltimore again next week. We're going to see about that. Yeah. We're going to see about that.

25:52Joe Johnson:One of y 'all is going to be upset next week. I'm not sure who it's going to be. if I had to take a guess, I would say it's probably going to be Joe.

25:59Shannon Sharpe:You got a bit. You got a bit. We got y 'all dead to right. Nah. We got y 'all where we want y 'all to be. Man, please.

26:17Shannon Sharpe:The Browns defeated the Buccaneers 23-19. The drought in Cleveland is over. Deshaun Watson had his best game in a long, long, long, long time. He was 24-30, 238 yards, two touchdowns. Guess what? He's going to start again at home.

26:37Joe Johnson:I could have told you that. What did I tell you, Uncle Joe? What did I tell you? If they started 0-2 out the gate, he was not going to start. Now, I don't know if you all saw the reports that they were evaluating the quarterback position based on today's results.

26:51Shannon Sharpe:I think even if they hadn't won the game, Ocho, because he played so well, I still think he would have started at home. Let's just say after that break, I don't know how they played, Ocho. They don't sat there for four hours and come out there. It was two or three hours. Yeah, like two and a half, two and a half hours.

27:12Joe Johnson:I'm happy for Deshaun. A lot of noise, a lot of critics, a lot of naysayers. So I'm happy to see him have a game like this because that's going to do wonders for his confidence. When you play the game of football, regardless of what position you play, the one thing that you need is confidence. And once you have confidence, then you're able to play a little bit more freely and a little bit more comfortably. And I'm happy for him. And hopefully he can string some of these wins and consistency and in production back-to-back and back-to-back weeks. So, man, kudos to Deshaun Watson and the Cleveland Browns on getting that dub today.

27:51Shannon Sharpe:Guess what he didn't do? They didn't turn the ball over. Turn the ball over. Turn that damn ball over. Hey, hey, I'm with you. I think Deshaun played great today. Uncle Ocho, their defense was even better. But I give Deshaun credit under the circumstances and the pressure that he's playing under to be able to come out. Because they were down, I think, like 16-6 in third quarter, and they made their run. Yeah. But I thought for him going 17 for 21, especially in the second half, In the second half, 17 for 21, 183 yards, two touchdowns. He look great, bro. We ain't asking for you to throw 400 yards, four touchdowns.

28:27Shannon Sharpe:We'll take it, though. No, we'll take it, but think about it. This is good quarterback play. You don't turn the ball over. You put points on the board, and you keep the chains moving forward, bro. You give yourself an opportunity. If you don't turn the ball over, he looks like a much better quarterback. And to be honest with y 'all, he looked very decisive when he was running today. When he did use his legs and he took off, he looked decisive in that versus being hesitant, not knowing when to go, when to throw. He looked like a quarterback who wanted to keep playing. He looked good. This was one of the best games.

29:01Shannon Sharpe:I mean, since he's been there, I don't know if he's had a better game and looked better than what he looked today. He looked like – look, obviously, he didn't really push the ball down the field. Denzel Boston did a great spin. and took off running. Hal Fannin made some catches for him. Hal Fannin Jr. made some catches for him. But Deshaun was great today. He was great today. You look, we beat him up since he's been there. I ain't got no problem growing flowers, picking them, and handing them to him. He deserves his flowers today, and we're going to give him his flowers today. He knew what was at stake.

29:36Shannon Sharpe:He knew he had to play well. I believe he was going to start, even if they come out out of this break and Tampa comes back and win, I believe he starts because he played that well. That wouldn't have been on him because all I know is when I left the field, we had a 23-19 lead. And I don't play defense. That's all I can do is that when I leave the field, give us the lead. He left the field, they had the lead, two and a half hour rain delay, lightning strikes, they come back out and they get it done. Now, to the Buccaneers, Todd Bowles. Baker, you did a wise thing signing that contract, bro. Ooh.

30:19Todd Bowles, you on the hot seat, bro.

30:24Shannon Sharpe:I ain't telling you nothing. I ain't telling you nothing he don't know.

30:28Joe Johnson:In week two?

30:36Joe Johnson:Hey, listen. You know what? We talk about Deshaun Watson. Me giving Deshaun Watson credit and all. Remember the one thing I kept saying back and forth? It's one thing for Deshaun Watson to play well, but it's only one way he can play well. His supporting cast has to show up too. Hell, goddamn. Pat on the back and applause for the supporting cast too. Denzel Boston playing well. Boy, that goddamn Harold Fanny Jr., boy. Boy, I need a jersey, boy. He came through. Yeah, he want him a phase. He want him a phase out there right now, man. Second-round pick, Denzel Boston.

31:09Shannon Sharpe:Five catches, 95 yards. Here's what Todd Munkin had to say after the game. Take a listen.

31:16Joe Johnson:Todd. Browns are going to Browns. Fuck that. Okay? So the guys took that to heart. Thank you.

31:27Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I like that. He said, I heard you, Coach Tomlin. He said, hey, Mike T, I heard what you said talking about the Browns going Browns. Talking about Browns going Browns. F that. That might cost them a little 10. I mean, they might send them a little 10. Let that cost a little something with y 'all.

31:46Joe Johnson:That's okay. That's okay. We can deal with that. What I told you about me wanting coaches and coaches and players to be a little bit more honest. I want you to talk how you talk when the cameras ain't around. I want you to talk how you talk when you're at the coffee table with your family. Yeah. I want you to talk how you talk when you're in the barbershop with your boys.

32:06Shannon Sharpe:No, you can't talk like that.

32:08Joe Johnson:I mean, I'm just saying. I'm just saying at some point I'm looking for us to evolve, you know, as coaches, as players to that aspect. We don't have to pretend to be someone that we're really not in front of the camera. I can do that when I'm home, though, Ocho. Todd Munkin, I appreciate that.

32:23Shannon Sharpe:I can't do that publicly, Ocho, because I'm representing the team.

32:28Joe Johnson:Right, but if everybody fall on board with that, it's going to become a norm.

32:33Shannon Sharpe:Well, I mean, I think the thing is we've kind of lost the corn. I mean, we see what's going on. We see how people talk, that we never heard some of the things we say from our politicians and from some of our higher people up. The way they talk now, we've kind of lost the quorum. Yeah. It's kind of like anything goes. Stuff that you, like, did he really say that? Yeah. Did she really say that? I mean, calling people ghetto bees and calling people piggies and the highest of positions. nah I'm going to pass on that I still think there should be a little decorum yeah

33:11Joe Johnson:but you heard what you just said the thing is we're surprised at hearing it because not knowing that that's how they talk with no cameras I already know how they

33:21Shannon Sharpe:I already know how they feel about us okay okay okay okay we been knew that I mean they ain't no surprise yeah

33:33Joe Johnson:Yeah. Every time, think about this, Uncle Joe, every time emails are leaked or voice recordings are leaked, and we're always shocked. We're always in awe. You know why we're always shocked and we're always in awe? Because every time someone is in front of the camera.

33:46Shannon Sharpe:That's not how they speak.

33:48Joe Johnson:Bingo. Because that's really not them. You have to pretend to be someone that you're not.

33:54Shannon Sharpe:That's all. I ain't got no problem. I'll tell you what. If that's going to be the foundation, if that's how we're going to be allowed. Yes, sir. Well, then don't take my microphone when I say something that you don't like. See, you like freedom of speech as long as it's something that you like. Hello. Hey. Yeah. As long as you ain't got. No, you like my freedom of speech as long as you agree with what I'm saying. The moment you don't, now all of a sudden you take it away. I can't come to the stadium. Now I can't be on this platform. Now you won't let your clients. Y 'all know who I'm talking to, agents.

34:29Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all won't let your clients come on nightcap. But y 'all big on freedom of the speech. Y 'all big on somebody saying whatever he wants to say, how he wants to say it.

34:43Shannon Sharpe:The Seahawks defeated the Cardinals 31-7. Drew Locke 19-26, 235, three touchdowns. JSN dominated nine for a buck, 55, three tood. After nine receptions for 155 yards and three touchdowns today, JSN now the fifth receiver ever with at least eight catches and 120 yards receiving and a touchdown reception in each of his team's first two games. Stephon Diggs did it with Buffalo. Antonio Brown did it with Pittsburgh. Charlie Hennigan did it in 1962 with the Oilers. Bad Moon Andre Risen did it in 1994 with Atlanta.

35:24Shannon Sharpe:Hey, what more can we say about JSN? And y 'all remember, Marvin Harrison Jr. was a better prospect. We're going to talk about him. We'll talk about him a little bit. This is about Drew Locke and what he was able to do. And I told you, that's the advantages of having a quality backup. Yeah. Because until the starter gives back, he can keep you afloat. He played his ass off. Remember, he came in, what, third play of the game last week and got a victory. Yeah. Started this week. No, look at it. 19 to 26, 235, three touchdowns. Clean game. Ooh. I'm talking about you. Clean game. Hey, hey, think about it.

36:02Shannon Sharpe:And he getting it out to his big playmakers in JSC, and that boy don't miss. I'm talking about every time he touched the ball, it's like that boy finna make something happen. He does. He is explosive. Hey, hey, shout out to Drew Locke, though. Can you imagine being in that situation? They just want to. Was he there last year? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And to step right in and play the way he playing? Hell, I don't even know if Sam Donald can play that good. I'll just keep it real. He played his tail, though. This is the time Jacoby Brissett, ooh.

36:36Joe Johnson:It got ugly. Shoot. They looked good last week. I don't know what happened today.

36:41Shannon Sharpe:Seattle happened. That's what happened. Seattle. Hey, hey, hey. And how my boy only get one target? No catches. How Marvin Harris only get one target, Ojo? He's not playing good. Hey, man. I don't know what it is, Joe Ocho. When we said, you know, got to get his confidence, his mentally. Ocho, he's just not playing good, Ocho.

37:02Joe Johnson:Yeah. I mean, there's only one way to get your confidence. They got to get you.

37:09Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, if I throw you the ball and you throw it back at me, what am I supposed to do? He's a receiver, not a retriever. A receiver, catch things. A retriever, pick it up and go. You know, he dropped the ball, pick it up, throw it to the official. That ain't your job. Hey. Right. Hey. Hey. Damn. Hold on, man. Is it him not creating separation, Uncle Ocho? What is it? How? I just don't. I mean, with that body that he got, I know I've been seeing, you know, where some people say he didn't gain too much weight, gain too much muscle. Come on. Come on, man. Come on. Now, straight up, what I'm saying is, can he not, creating enough separation?

37:54Shannon Sharpe:Like, is he not open? Like, no, he be wide open dropping stuff. Oh, Joe?

38:00Joe Johnson:Yeah, I don't like, me personally, Joe, I don't like the fact that he put on so much weight, he put on so much muscle. To me, I think it's made him a little bit more robotic. You know, he was fluid as he looked when he was at Ohio State. When he was at Ohio State, he was fluid. Now, when you put on that kind of muscle, obviously, I think maybe you do it because you want to be able to fight through contact, contested balls, He'd be able to be a little bit stronger. But, I mean, I don't know. It just doesn't look right. You know, it hadn't translated to him playing better. And, you know, I don't know, maybe it's concentration.

38:37Joe Johnson:You've got to go back to the basics. You have to go back to the basics because he's really good. Based on what we saw at Ohio State, we know he can be one of the better NFL players in this league. He's just not playing like it, and I think it's in his head.

38:49Shannon Sharpe:What if I took Harrison Jr. off and put Johnson? His name was Marvin Johnson. How would you feel? Because his daddy was a Hall of Famer. And you speaking to this. His daddy was a multiple-time Pro Bowl player, a multiple-time All-Pro, a Super Bowl champion, a receptions leader. Hold on, man. Them big shoes to feel, now. Come on, now. Hold on. Them big shoes to feel, but that man put in some work, man. That man, I thought he was going to be a top receiver. at this point in his career? Yes. This is his third year? This is his third year? Yeah, man, I thought he was going to be a top-five receiver at this point, Uncle Joe.

39:27Shannon Sharpe:He's supposed to be based on where he was drafted. He's absolutely supposed to be that, Joe. He's a guy that has a nine rating, which means he's transformative. He's supposed to be able to transform your franchise. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that hasn't happened yet. It hasn't. He's got to play better. He's got Marvin Harrison. He had zero reception yards, zero, and he had one target. Marvin Harrison Jr. this season, he's run 62 routes, four targets, one reception, 33 yards, zero touchdowns, one drop. Damn.

40:06Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he got to be better, man. He got to be better. He got to be better. I never hear him talk in press conferences. I mean, you barely heard Marvin Senior talk. They're not big talkers. Marvin was a doer, though. Marvin was an all-decade player. I think he made the top 100, which was one of the best 100 players in NFL history. But Junior got to be better than this. They got to do a better job of getting him to football. He's going to have to do a better job getting open. And when he gets open and they throw him the ball, he's going to have to come down with it. because at the end of the day, Ocho, I can call the best.

40:51Shannon Sharpe:I can diagram the best play. I can call it. You can run the best route. I can throw it to you. But if you don't catch it, it's all for naught. Yeah. There are so many things that have to be in place for a reception to happen. I have to call a play. Quarterback have to throw the ball. You have to run the route. You have to get open. Now, once all those four things, the previous four to five things happen, the last thing that needs to happen is what? You make the catch. If all those things are great and the last thing is bad, guess what? The other things don't seem great. Mm-hmm. Yes, we have expectations, very high expectations, based on what you did while you were in college, based on the pedigree that you come from, the lineage that you come from.

41:46Yeah.

41:48Joe Johnson:Yeah, the expectations are different based on that. And you didn't make it any easier about how good you were in college.

41:56Shannon Sharpe:And remember, Ocho, he skipped all the workouts. He didn't work out in the combine. He didn't do no interpersonal workout.

42:08Shannon Sharpe:He's got to be better. Ain't no ifs and a buts. I ain't breaking news to no one. He's got to be better. And today, and so many times before, he hasn't been. The Raiders defeated the Chargers 26-14. What if I told you the Raiders would start the season 2-0 and the Chargers would start the season 0-2? First Cousins, 19-29, 253, three touchdowns, one interception. Trey Tucker, 5-4, book 19 in a tub. Cody White had wide receivers dream. Two receptions, two touchdowns. Hey, I want to know, I want to see these analysts that's going to keep praising Justin Herbert. Mmm, hey. So what is it now? Oh, he's immensely armed talented.

43:01Shannon Sharpe:He can throw the ball. He can make every throw. He's supremely athletic. He killing them.

43:12Shannon Sharpe:he is absolutely he fumbled the ball three times Joe Ocho he threw two picks damn

43:24Shannon Sharpe:they got really fortunate today think about this they fumbled the ball six times they recovered three of them yeah you get real fortunate with that boy

43:37Joe Johnson:they got it ugly but what I told you What did I tell you about Kirk Cousins? What about him? What about him? He like a doctor, boy. He like Dewey Houser. Boy, he's surgical. You hear me? He going to get that ball to you. Hey. He going to get it.

43:53Shannon Sharpe:He going to get that ball to you. You're right, Ocho. The Raiders didn't need what we would say huge explosive numbers from Cousins. I thought he made explosive throws, finished drives, and that Raiders defense, it created opportunities, bro. They create opportunity. That's why they were able to win. They 2-0 up? Yep. Oh, yeah. With no Brock Brown was out there too? Yep. That boy out there dealing. Nope. Man, uh-uh. Crosby was just kicking Joe off his ass. Crosby is the real deal. He's like, man, he's like, bro.

44:38Joe Johnson:Woo. Can you imagine if that deal went through with him with the Ravens?

44:45Shannon Sharpe:With him with who? The Ravens. Why it got to be right? Okay, nothing. I ain't going to say nothing. Oh, y 'all wanted him to joke? It ain't too late. We got a little money on. We still got a little money on. Yeah, Jerry. Yo, remember he went to the Ravens,

45:01Joe Johnson:but he failed the physical?

45:03Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. Yeah.

45:06Joe Johnson:Yeah. Damn.

45:08Shannon Sharpe:Boy, Max Cosby, boy. He was just the pressure, just the relentless pressure. He just kept it.

45:17Joe Johnson:That boy's dog ain't a man. Yeah, yeah. He got a motor.

45:23Shannon Sharpe:I don't know this man's crying. Yeah, Joe, he needs. Ooh. What? That tackle bag, he needs. Ooh. But at some point in time, we got to call it like we see it. Justin Herbert, you got to do better, bro. Yeah. This here ain't good enough. Now,

45:50Shannon Sharpe:Greg Roman got fired. Anthony Lynn got fired. Staley got fired. Mm-hmm. Okay. So who fault is it now?

46:07Shannon Sharpe:two head coaches and offensive coordinator that got fired under Justin Herbert's watch you know they're not

46:16Joe Johnson:going to blame the quarterback

46:17Shannon Sharpe:at some point they will Ocho

46:19Joe Johnson:not the golden boy absolutely not at some point

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51:11Shannon Sharpe:Games with two touchdowns all time. Receiving most games with two receiving touchdowns all time. Jared Rice has 44. He's in the number one slot. Randy Moss has 36. He's in the number two slot. Terrell Owens is in the three spot with 32. Devontae Adams is tied in a three-way tie with 29 with Chris Carter and Marvin Harrison Jr. Excuse me, senior. Most receiving touchdowns all time. Jerry Rice, 197th, Hall of Fame. Randy Moss, 156th, Hall of Fame. Terrell Owens, 153th, Hall of Fame. Chris Carter, 130th, Hall of Fame. Marvin Harrison Sr., 128th, Hall of Fame. Larry Fitzgerald, 121th, Hall of Fame.

51:56Shannon Sharpe:Devontae Adams now has 119 receiving touchdowns.

52:03Shannon Sharpe:Is Devontae a lock for the Hall of Fame, guys?

52:06Joe Johnson:Oh, yes, sir. I mean, listen, a blind man can see that, so can a blind squirrel. He'd been a lock forward. Hell, he was a lock forward in the conversation when he was at Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Because it was unstoppable. Huh? Listen, the masses of the back shoulder. Man, what? A lock. Matter of fact, he's such a lock. First ballot? Yeah. First ballot. Look, the fact that he just didn't even get - It didn't even be a ballot. What are we talking about?

52:37Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead, Joe. Yeah, first ballot. He just won him a check. He got a ring now, don't he? Yeah. No. What do you mean, no? Where he got a ring from? He wasn't in Green Bay. Was he in Green Bay in 2011? I don't think so. I'm talking about with the Rams. Didn't he just win with the Rams? No. The Rams didn't. No, he wasn't there with Rams when Cooper Cuppman won. In 2021, yeah.

53:01Joe Johnson:He wasn't there yet. He ain't got it.

53:02Shannon Sharpe:Who just won the Super Bowl? Oh, Seattle just. I'm tripping. Seattle.

53:05Joe Johnson:Hold up, Joe. Hey, Joe. Even without that ring. You know? I mean, it's a great accolade to have. It's a great achievement to have in getting a Super Bowl ring. But him Hall of Fame, he's a Hall of Famer even without the ring. Yeah, the rings are team accomplishments.

53:21Shannon Sharpe:The Hall of Fame is about you. What did you do? How dominant in the era that you played, how dominant were you? I'm saying even when you dominant, though, and you got one of them under your belt, you were locked. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I get what y 'all say. But, I mean, you look at it. Look, and we can debate this at some other time. We know T.O. should have been a Hall of Famer, a first ballot. Oh, yeah. What are we talking about? They play too much, huh? Yeah. I mean, think about this. T.O. had 153. He's third all-time. He's third all-time in double-digit touchdown games.

53:56Joe Johnson:Third. It's personal. It's personal. That's why they did what they did with the voting stuff, eh, Joe? They played with T.O. Yeah, they played with Bill. So if they played with Bill, which is the, and you know, Bill was after T, so if they played with T, which is the, and they played with Bill too, so we already know.

54:10Shannon Sharpe:Well, they had some people voting that shouldn't have no damn vote anyway. Man, who you telling? Damn. They should let me do it. They got to fix that, bro. They got to fix it, yo. Because I look at it like this here. If some of the members that's in the Hall of Fame, if they don't get a vote, y 'all just arbitrarily just give anybody a damn vote. Right. Right. Guys like John McCain from Houston, that may have been voting for 50 years. Why y 'all pull his vote? There are some guys that shouldn't remain to vote. Because I know John very, very, very well. And I think he's always been professional.

54:48Shannon Sharpe:But some of these jack legs go in there and they take personal bias in there with them. Yeah. Look, it's like with anything. You're not going to get 100 % because it's just like, hey, you vote for me, I vote for you. You vote for my guy, Ocho, I vote for your guy next year. You know, I get, hey, you know Joe coming up next year now, and I know that's your guy. So I'm going to drum up some support for Joe, and so we push that thing on through. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it got a nice little system going now. But no, no, no, no, no. But see the thing is, everybody talking about the ring code. No, that's what y 'all wanted because y 'all quick to holler.

55:24Shannon Sharpe:He ain't got no ring. Yep. No, regardless of the sport, he ain't got no ring. Basketball, he ain't got no rings. He ain't got as many rings as this guy, so he got to be – he can't be as good if he don't have as many rings. Now, that prevents someone from getting in. Y 'all talking about the ring culture is going crazy. No, y 'all started this. Yeah. The moment social media – because everybody get an opportunity to voice their opinion, whereas before social media, ain't nobody caring about your opinion because nobody heard your opinion unless you was in the barbershop and we was having a conversation in the shop.

55:57Shannon Sharpe:We standing on the block and we at the court somewhere, Joe. Oh, Joe. Now you got social media. You tweet something. Somebody retweet it. Oh, man. Ooh. You heard what he said? Yeah. Yeah.

56:11Joe Johnson:It all depends. And don't have a voice. If you have a voice, if you have a voice and a platform.

56:18Shannon Sharpe:Well, the thing is everybody has a voice. Their platforms are a lot different.

56:23Joe Johnson:Yeah.

56:23Shannon Sharpe:It's amplified now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, it don't matter how many followers you got, bro. You can be seen or noticed just by a clip. You know what I'm saying? Yep. That's why you have to be careful like Joe. You know, as somebody that's in the Hall. I tried. Well, what do you think? Man, look here. Because what y 'all going to do, how they going to clip it, Ocho? Hall of Famer Shannon Sharp says. Yeah. Now, I don't think he should be in. or I think he should be in. Bro. So I was like, look. Unless it's like slams, Travis Kelsey, yep. Gronk, yep. Devontae Adams, yep. No brain. Bro, stop asking me.

57:08Shannon Sharpe:Why do y 'all care? I mean, they used to, do you think this guy is? You don't care what I say. You're going to vote who you want to, when you're going. It's just like voting. When you go in that little booth, you can tell me you voted for Joe. How do I know you did? Hello. Hello. I don't know what you say. You can say anything. Yeah. How many people? Well, this is who I voted for. Well, damn, if everybody that I talked to voted for him, how the hell did this other guy get in office? Somebody lied. But that's just the way it is. It is. I don't think Devontae catching Jerry. As a matter of fact, I don't think nobody catching Jerry, Ocho.

57:48Joe Johnson:Absolutely not. It's impossible. it had to be a one man show offensively with no injuries for about a 20 year span

57:57Shannon Sharpe:yes yes could he he's about 30 so to catch T.O. he needs about he needs 30 for the tie 35 to break you think he has that many more years left did he

58:15Joe Johnson:is he going to get the ball enough is he going to get the ball enough It's not even about having the years. You have to understand how dominant T.O. was throughout the entirety of his career regardless to where he went. And he did so much with the opportunities that he got.

58:30Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

58:31Joe Johnson:Whether it was short, a joke, short, intermediate, he taking it to the house, boy.

58:37Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.

58:37Joe Johnson:As opposed to being a receiver, is what T.O. did when he got the ball in his hand, man, ain't no telling. And then it's hell bringing him down.

58:45Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You go back and look at T.O. T.O. was putting up numbers when he was playing number two to Jerry. Yeah. People forget that, that he played alongside Jerry. Yeah. That's why they did what they did because they was like, you know what? He can be a younger Jerry. And they let Jerry go. And Jerry's like, y 'all let me go? Y 'all really did that? And Jerry went ahead at 40, 1 ,200 yards. You will never see that again. You will never see another 40-year-old receiver with 1 ,200 yards. Why you think that is, though, huh? Play that long, man. Because Jerry just had that one year. Think about it.

59:25Shannon Sharpe:Jerry missed. Was that 96 or 97? That was 97. Jerry tore his ACL like the first or second game of the season and came back and played that same season, Ochoa Joe. Yeah. So everybody talk about it. And what happened was he caught two touchdowns on us on a Monday night. Now that I think about it. So he tears his ACL in September and comes back in December. What?

59:56Joe Johnson:That's, hey, that's, hey, Joe, that's unheard of.

59:59Shannon Sharpe:That's four months.

1:00:00Joe Johnson:Hey, that's unheard of.

1:00:01Shannon Sharpe:Four months.

1:00:02Joe Johnson:Especially the fact that they didn't have the technology they do. They do now back then, especially when it comes to an extensive injury like that. Unheard of. Yeah.

1:00:14Shannon Sharpe:Well, you got to be working to come back that early from a torn ACL for a month. Yeah. Come on, man. I think they did his with a cadaver. I think they took an ACL out of somewhere. I don't think they took part of his patella and did it like that. I think they did a cadaver with Jerry. Obviously, Jerry's the gold standard. Moss, 156. I mean, let that sink in for a second. As great as Moss was, Jerry is still 41 touchdowns in front of you. That's crazy. Think about it. Ocho, 41 touchdowns, that's four seasons.

1:00:53Joe Johnson:That's a lot. Yes! When you get to comparing the numbers that Jerry was able to put up during his time, it's unbelievable. It's crazy.

1:01:07Shannon Sharpe:Like a 10-time first-team All-Pro? I mean, you make all pro a couple of times. You're like, damn, Jerry was like 10 times. 13-time pro bowler.

1:01:20Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead, Joe. Hey, you know what that mean? What that? That man love the game, bro. Oh, he did. You got to love the game. To be able to play that long and to play up in your 40s, bro, you got to love the game, bro. 20 years. Yeah, you got to love it. You got to love the preparation. I ain't talking about just going out there on game day when you smell that popcorn popping. You hear me? I'm talking about when ain't nobody looking, ain't nobody watching, you running them heels. You doing your push-ups. You know what I'm saying? Hey, the preparation is everything, bro. He had to love it. He loved it.

1:01:56Shannon Sharpe:From Mississippi Valley. Damn. Mississippi Valley State. Him and Satellite Tartt. Hold on, hold on. When is Satellite Tartt? Hold on, somebody at my door. they're probably telling you to be quiet. That's what they're going to tell you. I think he catches Chris Carter. I'm not sure he catches T.O. and Moss. Devontae? Yeah. How far is he from Chris Carter and Moss? He's 11 touchdowns. He's 11 from Ty and 12 from break pass and Chris Carter. He's 40, he's 30, he's 35 touchdowns behind T.O. And 38 touchdowns behind Randy. He needs 37 to tie Randy, 38 to break it. 34 to tie Moss, 35 to break it. He's going to have to play another couple years to get that one.

1:02:52Shannon Sharpe:I think he's going to need to play Latte.

1:02:55Joe Johnson:Hey, Matt, let me tell you. Thank you, Cambodia. Appreciate that. You know, she's like, okay, okay, okay. Okay, my baby sent me some coffee.

1:03:05Shannon Sharpe:Oh, you get Uber Eats at a hotel?

1:03:08Joe Johnson:Yeah. She made that call. Boy, you know, my baby don't play. What are you talking about? Man, I get room service. And you see what time it is too, huh? Yeah. She made Starbucks open back for me and sent me a coffee, Uber Eats, and the hotel bought it upstairs for me while I'm on the show.

1:03:23Shannon Sharpe:Hey, where are you?

1:03:25Joe Johnson:I'm in Houston. I drive to Dallas at 5 a.m. So when we get off, I'm going to just hit the road because I ain't dealing with that traffic. I ain't dealing with that traffic. Houston got too many exits. Hey, Unk, you missed one exit. You got to drive 30 miles. No, I ain't messing with that traffic. I'm going to get on when ain't nobody driving. I got to do some stuff in Dallas tomorrow. Then I'm back to Miami. Oh, no.

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