BEST OF NFL Week 6 Part 1: Chiefs TAKE DOWN Lions, Giants UPSET Eagles, Baker Mayfield MVP?

23:15yeah i told you what was gonna happen listen one one thing about it the one thing about please please don't do that please don't do that don't do that because it didn't it didn't look as good as you did it looked like a woman with no makeup that's the that's what the game it wasn't pretty it wasn't it looked like a woman with no makeup it was an ugly contest it's nothing and y 'all still lost you know what i'm saying it was an ugly contest and you lost okay okay and i told you what was going to happen i told you i told you what's going to happen i said oh joe they're gonna be they're gonna be on justin fields like lions on a wildebeest i said you watch what i did yeah did you see that hey you you was right you're right did you see his stat line i saw his stat i'm gonna go over his stat line he was nine of 17 for 45 passing yards when you take away the sack yards he was minus 10 yards passing that is the look that's the fewest pass yards in Jets history.

24:09That's the fewest allowed by a team since 1998. So it's been 27 years since somebody has had a worse passing line than what Justin Fields had today. They sacked him nine times for minus 55 yards. They had 82 yards. Chad, in an NFL game, a team had 82 yards of total offense. in a 60-minute NFL game. They were 2 of 15 on third down. 57 yards of total offense. Jesus. No, let me take that back. They had 82 yards of total offense.

24:49Shannon Sharpe:Nine sacks, 15 hits, seven tackles for losses, four passes defended, minus 10 net passing yards. And I tweeted, Ocho, this is a new low even for the Jets. 82 total yards, 82 effing yards in an NFL game, 2 of 15 on third downs, and allowed nine sacks. This is the worst offensive performance I've seen in a while. Not sure if it can be fixed. This was awful. And it was, Ocho. Yeah. Ocho, I don't think I'm breaking news. Yeah. I'm going to be honest with you, Ocho. I don't know how well Justin Fields processes information. You don't think so? He freezes. He freezes. there were a couple of times Ocho he's got to take the flat right now and he doesn't oh he's waiting on something else to develop yes I don't I don't know what it is Ocho he's got to get out this isn't college right in the NFL you must throw people open guys are not yes sometimes they'll blow a coverage and you and the guy's wide open you could throw it to him but nine eight and a halftimes out of 10 you've got to throw guys open in this league guys are just the guys are too good yeah and i just don't know and i'm watching him ocho and he freezes a lot of time it's like i'm like bro and and i don't know i don't know we we and we blame the chicago and we we said it was ebra flues and we pittsburgh well he didn't get a chance now he has a chance and i don't know what it is but i just know this he's not processing the information as fast as he needs to and to be great at that position you must process information extremely fast because ojo is happening it's one two three hey you skate one two it's gone you got to get out of there most definitely especially with with them not really blocking well for him being sacked nine times a day see from your point of view so you're able to have better context on why it looked the way it did you know sweet and watching you know live in person is a little different you just see everything happening fast in person don't know why it's happening because there's no replay there's nothing there's nothing you can that's why i don't like watching games in the stadium because you look for the replay because i want to see yeah yeah so i'm i really couldn't understand i didn't know it was as bad as it was once I saw the stat lines at the end of the game.

27:19I saw him obviously running for his life. I saw there wasn't much they were able to do offensively. I talked to AG before the game. I was like, congratulations on everything you're doing. I hope you guys turn this thing around and get the boys to play. I guess this just wasn't the week. Not playing against that goddamn Broncos defense. and you said what they was going to do and they went out there and did everything you said they was going to do. It's almost like the Jets don't even look like an NFL team down there. They don't. At times they really don't. I'm like did y 'all practice? Ain't no way you either one or two things.

28:00You're not practicing or you're practicing to be just this bad. Because normally people practice to be good. You got to practice doing what they're doing. This is bad. And I hate it for A.G. because I know A.G. personally. I know him well. He's a really good dude. But he could not have gotten off to the worst start. Yeah. Because these guys, for whatever reason, whatever they're coaching, is not resonating. It's not getting through to them.

28:30Shannon Sharpe:Garrett Wilson was asked about his sideline exchange with Aaron Glenn at the end of the first half. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. You didn't see that at the end of the first half when you were walking off the field. Was that the way the drive went? Well, really, like, you know, that stuff like that is just, I don't know. I just didn't know exactly what the plan was. And once I figured it out, you know, I was disappointed. I'll just say that. So, yeah. To not run a play, is that what you mean? Yeah, I didn't know exactly like what the plan was. I just, I just thought we were, once we, you know, converted the fourth down, I just thought we were going for the, you know, trying to make the play.

29:17And then obviously we get to another fourth down and it's a tough spot to be in. So, you know, in hindsight, I get why they did that. But in the moment I was just like, man, I don't know. Yeah. Mm-hmm. He, he, he's speaking, he's speaking, he's speaking of specifics, huh? He's speaking of specifics, you know? Yes. I don't know. I didn't know what they was doing. And I was like, y 'all just going to let the time run out? You're not going to run a play? You're not going to even attempt anything? Yeah, I was thinking about clock management as well. And I'm like, why are they letting the clock go all the way down?

29:45Let's try to do something. Let's do something. But obviously, you know, he's frustrated. He's frustrated. And he should be. The guy had been, he was offensive rookie of the year with some very marginal quarterbacks. Yeah, exactly. And allegedly, supposedly, they had supposed to have gotten better quarterbacks yeah but his stats aren't indicative of that so he's frustrated by that second of all when you do what they did it tells me you don't trust your quarterback yeah oh that's the only reason you would do something like that because we've seen other teams with other quarterbacks with that same amount of time try to run plays and if we got time we're gonna call we're gonna use that time out or we're going to help the guys hope the guys can get out of bounds but when you just let that amount of time just run off the clock ain't no way in hell you cannot convince me yeah they trust the quarterback you don't you don't because that's the only reason you do a time like that we can't put our team we can't put our quarterback because in decision making it's not where it needs to be debate be able to put him in situations that might not be advantageous for him because he might make the wrong decision with the ball we can't trust him

31:00Shannon Sharpe:to make matters worse Wilson suffered an injury to one of his knee ligaments and he'll have an MRI upon returning to New Jersey Ocho look and when he did and he was late with the ball he was all over the place he had him on the out and he throws it behind him he had another guy he would have had the first down and he ends up hurting his back and so on fourth down they don't even have Garrett Wilson in the ball game I'm like whatever could go wrong went wrong it went wrong but Ocho even the best defense attorney will instruct you at some point in time we don't have a winnable case

31:48at some point in time and it's coming sooner rather than later I don't know how much further I can stick my neck out for Justin Fields I don't know Ocho I don't know In order to have a chance In this league There's 32 teams In order to have a chance I don't care who's coaching I don't care what you have on the offensive line I don't care what you have at receiver I don't care what you have on defense In order to have a chance In today's era of football You gotta have a quarterback He doesn't have to be the fastest. He doesn't have to have the best arm. He just has to be consistent in his decision-making.

32:33He has to have exquisite anticipatory skills in being able to play the position, being able to process information in front of him, and being able to do exactly what you ask of him to make sure that offense goes, whatever that may be. Whatever it may be. I thought this would be good for Justin Fields, especially with the signs that he showed with the Steelers last year. Yes. Leading them to a winning record until Russell Wilson was given a job by Mike Tomlin. I'm like, you know what? If Justin Fields gets his own team, I think he's going to be okay because he showed flashes of brilliance and what he could do when he's quarterback number one.

33:10Now you're quarterback number one. You ain't got nobody to worry about. You don't have nobody looking over your shoulder so you can actually play free. Yes. But based on the play call and some of the things that they were doing, It's like they don't even trust in the quarterback that they have because they're not the play calling isn't free. We have to protect our quarterback from himself. So, you know what? We don't let the clock run out because we don't we don't even want to put him in the situation. We have to make certain decisions because it can go wrong.

33:42Shannon Sharpe:You're right. It's bad. It's bad. And I know and A.G. like wants to show support, but I don't know how much longer. that because at the end of the day, Ocho, you got 50 other guys in that locker room now, and I understand the loyalty that you want to have for your quarterback and you want to show support, but you'll lose the locker room supporting one as opposed to the other guys because they'll look like, and they know, Ocho, you've been in locker rooms for a long time. I've been in locker rooms. Yeah. And maybe Tyrod, maybe it's time to, hey, maybe you give it a couple of more games, you're like, But, hey, Justin, I'm sorry.

34:21We're going to have to let Tyrod have a go at this. Yeah, yeah. See if he can get some things going. Because this is terrible. Now, look, the Broncos' defense is really, really good. That front seven? Oh, they're going to be quarterback. If you think about it, they're rotational. Hey, Bonito and Cooper, they'll go a series. And then the next, they got a whole different set of lineups. Yeah. And, hey, they got a NASCAR package. They just keep rotating them, and they keep coming. They collapse you from the outside, and then you got Big Allen collapsing the middle. And they're going to run you into somebody.

34:59If you run wide, Coop got you. If you run to the other side, Benito got you. You try to step up in the pocket, you got Allen collapsing the pocket. So they're really good. Don't get me wrong. Now, that's not a slouch defense. And Passer Tane is legit. He is legit. He is hands down the best corner in football. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And he is smooth, man. He is so smooth the way he can transition. And he's long. His arms like this long. And so he doesn't have to be that close to do this or to do this.

35:29Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, he's really good. He's so fluid. I mean, for someone to be as tall as he is and to be as fluid through the hips as he is, because, bro, he backpedaling, get out of there in a hurry. And he can whip his hips and go. But Ocho.

35:47Shannon Sharpe:being raised on a farm I was in 4-H went to county fairs went to a goat show a cow show and I've seen and I've been to the circus I ain't never seen no ish like what I saw with the Jets today you done been around a lot of football too you ain't seen I have but today this today I'm talking about like look and I've been I'm like damn I'm trying to think. I think maybe one other time that I've actually been around and I saw it, hell, I was a part of it. I think you got to go back to 92. And the Eagles beat us. I think they beat us 30 to nothing. I don't know if we had 50 yards of total offense. The Ravens?

36:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. No, the Eagles. No, I was with the Broncos. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. So that was, what, 33 years ago? Yeah. And you got to think about it, Ocho. They said the last time somebody had that few yards in a passing game, that was 98. That was 27 years ago. So you're talking about almost three decades. This doesn't happen often. So people, I don't want you to say that. Oh, man, that could happen. No, this does not happen often, especially in today's game, when it's catered for the quarterback and the receivers, because you can't punish the quarterback, and it's hard for you to touch the receivers.

37:07So with that being said, to get a performance like what they got today. Ocho, 82 yards of total offense. That's a testament to how good that defense actually is. Even with them being handicapped because of the rules, that's just how good they are.

37:22Shannon Sharpe:And how bad the opposing team was. It's a combination. That too. Hey, listen, two things can be true. They absolutely can be true. But I don't know where the Jets go. I do know. I do know. They take their ass home. and that's a long ass flight to take an ass whipping. Do you even watch film? Hell no! I ain't showing that. Yeah, I was going to say. I'm putting that where they put Jimmy Hoffa. Where the hell, wherever the hell that is. I'm burying that tape. Ain't nobody going to see that.

37:59As a matter of fact, I'm going to sue NFL films if they show it. You better be glad that they got like Remember, they used to have inside the NFL, they have the Thursday night, they have the game. Yeah, and they show highlights from the game? Nah, don't y 'all show that.

38:14Shannon Sharpe:Don't show nothing. Don't y 'all show a deep thing. But this was bad. This was bad. And you can lose a locker room if you're not careful. But also, there's one thing about losing a locker room and a coach having to make a very tough decision, you know, for a quarterback, for a quarterback that you consider you're number one, a quarterback that's been paid is the backup the answer. Because once you make a move in the middle of a season like this, we're only in week six. Once you make a move like this, you're making a move. I think they give them a couple more weeks, Ocho, but if they don't turn this thing around, I can see a situation.

38:53Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, if we 0-8, 0-9, 0-10, so what are we trying to do? Because I already know a team and another team that's in the Midwest that's trying to get the number one pick. That's Cleveland. And we'll talk about them in a minute. So are the Jets trying to get the number one pick? Okay. Because if you're trying to get the number one pick, you just stay the course. I see where you're going. Because that quarterback that you bring in there, Tyron's going to try to win games. I'm just telling you. And I'm not saying Justin Fields isn't. So you just tell me what to do because here's the thing. These other guys in the locker room, they don't care that you're trying to build for the future.

39:27I ain't trying to get my head split right now while you're building for the future. Damn your future. My future is right now because I might not even be here when we get good. which is true which is true and they're gonna be some heads rolling now there's gonna be some attitudes they're gonna be some frustrations especially from five you know garrett wilson ain't finna go for that you're not finna go for that you you paid me like the receiver that i am please use me as such please use me as such

40:01Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, tonight this game wasn't close. Jackson Dart did it with his arm and his leg scat packed with sensational 19 carries, 98 yards, 3 touchdowns Jackson Dart, 13 carries, 58 yards, another touchdown they gained 172 yards on the ground. Jackson Dart was 17 of 25, 195 1 touchdown. He was sacked but he didn't turn the ball over and when you can turn the ball, when you can take care of the football and you play you have a great chance of winning jalen hurst was 24 33 283 one touchdown ocho what we say about that late ball if you late in inside it's going the other way every time and it almost did uh they ran the ball 20 times for 73 yards uh but they ran the uh the tush push four times in a row they got a touchdown on it dallas garden has seven catches 110 yards, a touchdown.

40:52Shannon Sharpe:A.J. Brown had six for 80. Devontae Smith, who Jalen Hurts overthrew, would have had like a 90-yard touchdown, but he had four for 49. Ocho, the Giants just... The Giants did whatever they wanted to do. Both sides of the ball, too, at that. Both sides of the ball at that. For one, I want to talk about Jackson Dart. I want to talk about how good Jackson Dart looks as a rookie. Obviously, Russell Wilson started the season for the Giants, but when Jackson Dart got his opportunity, He came in and closed the door right behind him. Yep. He's making the throws. He's reading. He's improvising. He's escaping.

41:28He's eluding. He's using his legs. He's using his arm. His best weapon went down with knee injury. But you wouldn't know that his best weapon offensively, outside of Scatterbow, was hurt. Jackson Dart is a real deal, and he's very exciting. The combination of him and Skatterbow together, it's like two little kids. It's like two little kids out there on the playground just enjoying the game of football at the highest level. And it's refreshing. It's refreshing for the Giants fans, as you can see and you can hear. You watch the game with the sound off. But just watching the reaction and the sound of the Giants.

42:08Shannon Sharpe:I can see the fans. When they're paying and the fans go, I'm sure they're saying, uh uh uh boo like for scatterbow uh scat pack was doing his thing jackson dart i'm sure they're howling dart look this was look and we'll get to this ocho because the eagles didn't play well and they got some issues and we tried to tell them about the issues that they have but you know what ocho but you can't tell giants fan anything because if you creep if i critique uh jalen hurts you don't like black people you don't say this about white quarterback if i critique their team I'm jealous I'm envious okay fine I should have your undivided attention because I couldn't get your attention at first because you've winning you see that when you're winning you can't get nobody's attention now I should have your undivided attention because you lost twice yes the Giants they got the makings of a good team the only thing that concerns me Ocho is pressure there were times back there that Jalen Hurst would just sitting there patting the ball and two of the three and two of the four pass rushers was on the ground.

43:12They've got to generate pressure because they don't have elite on the back end. And so you should be able, when you got Dee Lawrence, when you got Thibodeau, when you got Abdul Carter, that should be more than enough to create pressure, to create havoc and not nearly, and I forgot, Brian Burns. Brian Burns, yeah. That should be enough, more than enough, to create havoc. Not enough havoc was created tonight. Like, you won the game, but in order for you to keep building on this, you got 10 days off. You get an opportunity to soak in this. I'm sure the Giants fans are going crazy, somewhat crazy, because the Yankees lost last night.

43:52But if you're a Giants fan, you look at Jackson Dart, you're like, man, he won his first game. He was playing really well against the Saints, and then he started turning the ball over. If we could protect the ball, I think we might got something. Scat Pack was doing what Scat Pack does. He runs hard. He's looking to run through, as Marshawn Lynch would say, run through a mofo face, and he runs with authority. He's looking to deliver a blow. When he blocks, he's blocking all out. When he's running, he's running all out. He missed a couple of cuts early, but hey, all is forgiven. He's a rookie. He'll get better as time progresses.

44:24But I thought the Giants offensive line, Ocho, when we talked about that thing with the sieve, people just come in to, hey, you're going to block him? But I thought they did a better job tonight of protecting Jackson Dart. He did a great job of avoiding the rush. When he needed to run, he got out of the pocket. When he needed to throw the ball away, he threw it away. I like what I saw from the New York football Giants. Wondell Robinson had himself a game. A little John Humphrey. I thought he made some plays tonight, Ocho. But, I mean, what can we say? The Giants, I mean, I don't think anybody really had picked the Giants to win this game.

45:02But it's just going to show you. hey you take care of the football and it's a division game mocho it's a rival game you know you throw workers out the window when you play at a rival now yeah definitely well definitely but listen if you you also understand if you're a bet man you'll be a bet man you definitely pick the eels yes well i wonder what the line was what was the bit you know what the line was on show no i had to be proud to be at least i'm thinking at least four four and a half listen you're going against a rookie quarterback defending Super Bowl champs everybody named I'm gonna probably pick the Eagles to actually win this game but when you have a quarterback like Jackson Dart who has been as exciting as he is who has been unpredictable as he's been since he's gotten a starting job I mean for those who actually know and understand the game of a ball and based on the small sample size of Jackson Dart that we've been able to see you throw caution to win when you come to bed against the Giants, especially after tonight's performance.

46:00So going forward, you know, I think things are going to change a little bit when it comes to watching, not only watching the Giants, but putting whatever money you want to on them to win a certain game or a specific game at that.

46:13Shannon Sharpe:It seems like the line was seven, seven and a half, depending on where you was batting, who you was batting, you know, what line you took.

46:24I'm confused, Ocho. Talk to me. Wait, before you say anything, let me get comfortable.

46:32Shannon Sharpe:I'm confused as to what they're doing with A.J. Brown. I watched a man run two unders in a row. I'm like, is that the only route y 'all believe A.J. Brown can run? He run under. They try to run him on like a little six, seven yard out. But I don't see no imagination in the routes. I don't see no magic, no creativity in the calls. Man, look, they're running smash concepts. They run the sale, and then they run the spot, what we call a spot route. Or they'll run the out, and then they'll run the under. Or Devontae would try to start in the slot, and he'll run the fade. Or he'll run the smash route.

47:17I mean, he'll run the out. I'm like, damn. If Jalen Hurts said, man, I'm tired of running these damn under routes. Give me a dig. Give me a comeback. Give me a deep over. Give me something. Hey, run a bang. Yeah. We ain't got no bangs. Yeah, I will say they made a conscious effort to give him the ball. They made a conscious effort to give him the ball in the first half, and there were some plays that had broken down where he was able to scramble out the pocket and get the ball to A.J. It wasn't many of them, but he had a better stat line this week,

47:51Shannon Sharpe:you know this game second best most yards he's had you know he had that 100 yard game against the rams where they were down uh about a lot at the half and then they came out made a conscious effort like we got to throw the ball because we can't run ourselves back in the ball game and it's like okay aj um so he had six for 80 dallas goddard had six uh nine for 110 uh smitty would have been over 100 had uh jaylen not overthrow him he put a little bit too much gas up on it uh uh davante ran a really good route had him i mean he could have walked backwards and got into the end zone because it looked like his defender had fallen down, don't you?

48:24Yeah.

48:25Shannon Sharpe:When you look at the Eagles, what's going on? Clearly, clearly that meeting didn't help. I don't know what they discussed. I don't care to know. 34-17, it's been a while since the Eagles lost the game by that. And this game wasn't – I mean, this thing got on the head quick. Yeah, it did. It did. I would think some, obviously, I think we'll start up front with some of the pieces to that offensive line being missing. Small holes that you try to cover up, you know, weak links that you try to cover up, but you just can't. There's a reason why Saquon Barkley isn't being as successful in the running game as he was last year.

49:12He wasn't, Ocho. Ocho, you thought they were going to let that man come back and rush for another 2 ,000? hey you do understand the Eagles do have the best offensive line in the league yes but he's making a concerted effort right what did I tell you if you're gonna beat me you're gonna beat me

49:28Shannon Sharpe:with Jayla Hurst throwing the football oh yeah because I like my chances better beating you with him throwing the football than Saquon Barkley running for 125 a game right it's really that simple and that's not a knock I'm not gonna let but I'm not gonna let you have a two-way go of it Now Saquon's running it. Now you play action and throw the ball over the top of my head. Nah, nah, nah. If he's going to throw the ball with pinpoint accuracy, and guess what I'm going to do, Ojo? I'm not going to drop eight in the box. I'm not going to throw one-on-one. I'm going to make you throw through zones.

50:00I'm going to make you throw the coverage. Now you do that consistently? Okay, I tip my hat to you. I can live with that. But I am not going to let Saquon do what he did last year and then be at your mercy. Now you throw when you want to, you run when you want to. You got me begging, man, throw the ball, man, run the ball. Nah, hell nah. You're going to beg for something different.

50:27Look, it's early in the season, but clearly something is amiss with the Eagles.

50:37Shannon Sharpe:It's hard to pick right up where you left off, Ocho. know and someone that has been in that situation you have to you have to really you have to really turn your mind off to like man we won the super bowl yeah you did that last year you think these teams gonna roll over just because you won the super bowl you're their super bowl this year oh yeah the teams that didn't win the super bowl guess what when they see your ass on the schedule now that gives us cop you know what brian dayball said that's the defending super bowl champs and we We just hung 34 on them. You see, when we play, we can beat anybody in this league.

51:13That's what they're saying. Because that's the Eagles. That's the defending Super Bowl champ. So now teams base how good they are on whether or not they beat them. And now you see why? Now this gives you a better reason why Kalen Hurts, when they ask him about the Super Bowl and how it feels to be the champs, why he throws it out the door. That was last year. Absolutely. Because he understood how difficult it would be to not only repeat, but to have the same success going into this season. The same way. Now we're seeing the struggles that they are having, being that they're not at full strength, especially at the offensive line.

51:55Some of the defensive pieces are a little different than they were last year, and things are different. New offensive coordinator, things have to evolve offensively. You know, you can't be too predictable. Last year, because the running game was so efficient, you could damn near do what you want to do. Exactly. And you can throw it when you want to. You got to pick your poison on what you want to do. Now things are a little different, and now you're going to get to see the better part of the Eagles. You're going to have to dig down, Ocho. We got to dig. Yeah, they can do one or two things. You can come together and fix it, or things are going to continue to splinter.

52:31Yeah. You heard that?

52:33Shannon Sharpe:And we're not going to make no excuses. Oh, the Eagles beat themselves. It looked like to me the Giants had 34 and the Eagles had 17. It didn't say Eagles 1 had 34 and the Eagles 2 had 17. Right, right. Ain't no beat yourself because, see, that's the excuses you make. Last week, man, they should have called pass interference. That was a pass interference. You see what happens, Ocho? If you lose by a little, I can go back and point to faith. Well, if he had done this, we had done that. But, see, when I beat hell out of you, what you going to say? so what pass interference that would have made up 17 points what holding call man they were they was holding so what holding call would have made up 17 points what did i miss what offsides what penalty that they didn't call that would have made up for 17 points oh i feel i feel bad for my guy gilly

53:25Gilly he's going to be alright you know I know only reason I'm saying he's going to be alright only reason I'm saying the Eagles are going to be okay is because it's so early in the season it's so early in the season now if we now if we were back in the season I give you one if it was after Thanksgiving things were looking the way they look now I'd be worried

53:49Shannon Sharpe:I'd be worried but let me tell you when you show vulnerability early. Yes. Teams like they can be had. That's the thing. Now, because you're already going to get everybody's best shot, Ocho, because you're the reigning Super Bowl champs. Absolutely. You're going to get everybody's best. But now they're like, hey, they vulnerable. They can be had. The ferocity, that defense is not nearly as vicious and suffocating as it was. that's a rookie Ocho. I don't give a damn who back there. That is a rookie quarterback in only his third start. And he did that. He did that. And he didn't seem bothered by what you were doing on the back end.

54:36He didn't seem flustered. He didn't seem off kilter. He didn't seem like, man, what are they doing? I'm seeing ghosts out there. He didn't seem that way to me. Now, maybe somebody else saw something that I didn't see, but he looked perfectly fine to me.

54:50Shannon Sharpe:I can see why AJ getting frustrated because I get tired of running under routes too yeah I would I get tired of running short crosses they run man stop man give me something down the field it would be very interesting though if we were to watch a cut up all 22 and see how many times he run further than 10 yards down the field right because I see I see a lot of people I see a lot of routes short cross over the ball, under route, slant route, five yard out. Man, let that man run a deep over. Let the man run a comeback. Let the man run a dig. Damn. Yeah, and more than one. Because everybody goes, Ocho, now they know he's not going deep.

55:33I'm squatting on everything, Ocho. I ain't getting out no damn back pedal because he ain't running no goal ball. Especially the better corners. Especially the better corners. Mm-hmm. That know and understand down the distance. We understand tendencies. We understand split. We understand schemes. if we understand the route concepts. Okay. Oh, he on top of the numbers. Oh, he ain't going nowhere. You ain't run no damn go-round from no top of those numbers. Oh, absolutely not. Oh, he inside the numbers. Okay. Oh, you try to run a shallow. You try to run a shallow. Either he run the shallow or he coming outside, one or the other.

56:10I could just sit. I don't know. I think maybe the casual fan doesn't understand how difficult the game of football is if it's not complicated, but how easy it is for those who study the game, who watch film, and are used to seeing things over and over and over. Yeah. So now the onus is on the offensive coordinator to be a little bit more creative, to throw off those that you're playing week to week because now there's film on you. There's a year's worth of film on you, and you got to change things up because if you don't change things up, you get what you see tonight. You get players that are frustrated because the blueprint is out there.

56:49The ingredients are out there. And the ingredients are out there. Hey, we know what this tastes like. You got to change it up. You do, Ocho, and the thing is, just like a pass rusher. You can't give that offensive lineman that same pass rush move. He'll eat that up. After a while, he'll build up an immunity to it. so you got to give him hey you got it sometimes you got to turn speed to power sometimes you just got a good deal sometimes you got to wax on wax off sometimes you got a bull sometimes you got a hump you got to change it up the same thing with the offensive lineman hey sometimes they quick set you or jump set you sometimes they stab left and then they come back hey sometimes they sometimes they catch some you've got to change it up these guys are good very good and they break everything down they watch watch him watch his feet watch when he does this what you does what he does with

57:39Shannon Sharpe:his hands now watch when he watch when he's in this stance look how wide his base is defense offensive defensive lineman look at his stance they pay attention they break everything down to the umpteenth because the margin of error these guys are really good and the margin of the margin of victory is so small very small it's not i'm telling you it's not it's not a mountain it is small it's the minute it's the just the details the devil is in the details man hey listen it's what one of one of three plays make the difference that's it that's one of three that's it um two turnovers did not help um look like they were the eagles were going in got a turn up uh and jaylen threw it was late and inside you you you let you inside if that db can catch she's going the other way with it.

58:33Shannon Sharpe:And then it seemed like they were driving again and AJ Dillon got the ball punched out. That's two turnovers right there. When you look like you were about to make something positive happen and it ends up going the other way, but the it's going to be interesting to see how the Eagles bounce back. Or how they respond in general. Ocho, you do realize they didn't score a point in the second half. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the second half. The 17 was off in the first. Hey, and on the tush push, that first one, the right guard jumped the count again. Yeah. See, Ocho, he almost has to jump the count because he has to keep the guy off the center.

59:16Because if the center gets stand up, because remember, Jalen Hurst is coming right behind him. So if he gets stood up, so the guard, one of those guards have to knock somebody off him. Let him get some push. Now we can get Jalen Hurst to get a little push. So get some leg drive. If Jalen, if the center gets stood up, where's Jalen going?

59:35Shannon Sharpe:The play doesn't work. The play doesn't work.

59:40Shannon Sharpe:It's going to, look, I'm sure Nick Sarion is like, you know, he's like, God knows it's a tough one. It was a short week. But, hey, it was a short week for the Giants. Everybody's going to have at least one short week. The Cowboys, yeah, the Cowboys will probably have two. Because they got a Thanksgiving game, and then they nearly likely play the following Thursday after that. Right. But I think this tonight, we can talk about the Eagles until we're blue in the face, but I think tonight was more about what the Giants did, positive and good, as opposed to Eagles. The Eagles have their issues, but here's the thing.

1:00:20Shannon Sharpe:If I got issues and you don't take advantage of them, what good is that? Mistake, when you make a mistake, can I make you pay for it? Right. you leave the door open I walk in your house you leave something out at the table I eat off your table every mistake the Jets the Eagles made Giants made them pay for it the question is look Ceriani Ceriani cut his teeth and call in plays and I know it's a bad because here's the thing anytime you do something that's abnormal people think you're panicking if I take over to play calling Ocho, what am I saying? The guy that had to play calling, he's not doing a good job.

1:00:59Be an officer or defensive. If I reassign people, hey, you in the class, Ocho. Shannon, Chad, get your move over here. That means you were being a disruption. You were doing something, you had no business. I got that all the time. Shannon, can you move up here by me? Why? You know why. So that's the way people are going to look at that from the outside and say, well, okay. I thought there was nothing going on. If nothing's going on, why are you making these changes? Why are you making these moves? But at the end of the day, I've got to do what's in the best interest of this team. And if I have to take over the play calling, I don't want to.

1:01:37I don't want to take over the play calling, but I will if I have to. And the question is, do you think Sirianni should or will take over the play calling? Ooh, that's tough. That's asking an awful lot of a head coach. I mean, look, Kyle Shanahan does it.

1:01:56Shannon Sharpe:Andy Reid does it. There aren't a whole – Sean McVay does it. It's not a whole lot of guys. Ben Johnson does it now. But for the most part, you know, hey, I got lieutenants. I let lieutenants do their job. I oversee everything. I hear everything. If there's something, hey, nah, we're going to run it on this one. Nah, hey, you got that specialty play, do that. I try to oversee everything. So what do you think will happen or what do you think should happen? I think more so a conversation. I think more so a conversation is had between Petula and Sirianni. Because Sirianni has enough as a head coach, huh?

1:02:33He has enough going on that he has to deal with. He has enough on his plate as is. You already have coaches appointed to certain positions, and they have their jobs. Now, if you want a coach to do his job a little better or find ways to make things work, is here now talking from an offensive perspective, you had that conversation with him and what needs to change and what he would like to see as a head coach. But taking over the play calls this early, to me, it sends him in panic mode, and I don't think that's something that they really need is not to panic, but find a way, figure out what solutions we can take, what creative effort can Petulo do in creating a little bit of creativity offensively and moving some things around.

1:03:17Just throwing a few wrinkles in there, not going too far away from the game plan and schematically and the things that do work and that you like to do, but just throwing some wrinkles in there that give you a little bit more success that aren't predictable when you're out there playing. Ojo, you know how coaches always ask the quarterback,

1:03:36Shannon Sharpe:and the quarterback goes to the coach and says, these are the plays I like. Yeah. Go to A.J. Brown and say, A.J., what you like? What you want to run? Give me a hint. How can I help you? What do you like? Yeah. Ask him. I mean, Mike would ask me, hey, 84, what you like here? Same. Especially in that first 15. Yeah. You can't go wrong with basic cross. You can't go wrong with wide choice. You cannot go wrong with those. You give me one of those, I'm good. You give me one of those, I'm good. I'll make it work. I don't give a damn if he's playing outside leverage. I don't care if he's playing head up.

1:04:16I don't care if he's playing inside leverage. He cannot stop me from going where I want to go. He's going to ask me what I like. Hey, you like the Zorro here? Yeah, I like Zorro. Yeah, I like Zorro. I like Zorro. I like it. I like it.

1:04:31Shannon Sharpe:You know, I'm really trying to get a touchdown, so I kind of like it. Ocho, I like it in the team going in. I ain't really trying to get no first down because they only going to bite one time, Ocho. It's like a fish. and you hook him and he get off, he ain't biting again not that one, now somebody else might get his ass another day and time but he not going to bite so that's the way I look at it like if I beat him on this Zorro this time and I get a first down he ain't biting again so I'm like no I'm kind of like I'm kind of like in the 10 for the Zorro route but anything else Mike, hey you do right choice you do basic basic cross, anything like that I'm good I'm Gucci hey run Tiger Farcross hey anything just go to AJ and say AJ what you like tell me tell me tell me what if I said AJ give me your five favorite routes that you like to run yeah and let me see how I can incorporate it in what we're doing because all they do Ocho is that you got your plays and you watch the film and you see what the other teams did to their ass last week and then you put that in and call it your stuff.

1:05:43Bingo. That's it. It's a copycat league. That's all you do. It's a copycat league and they do it every week. That's it. Whatever they saw, whatever they saw that worked on film and you happen to be playing that team, they're going to do the exact same thing. Formation might be a little different. Absolutely. It's going to be exactly the same. You think AJ asked for a trade? No. Hell. Oh, shoot. You know what? I'm not in AJ's shoes. I'm not in his shoes. I don't know. I'm not sure. And being how he is, his mannerisms, his beliefs and the way he moves and thinks is much, much more completely different than that of what they think he is.

1:06:27Yeah. I'm not sure he's the type to ask for a trade, but he's frustrated. Devontae Smith is frustrated. They both voiced their frustrations. I think it was maybe last week or week before last, publicly. So I'm not sure. I think –

1:06:50Why are you laughing?

1:06:51Shannon Sharpe:AJ, look at – because I understand. I really do. I really do because I don't want people to think. I understand AJ's situation. AJ said they don't pay me to win. They pay me for stats. The only problem that I have – stats get me paid, not wins. not wins i told you yeah remember i said that uh yes i said that oh the only problem is that aj keep that with seriani keep that with patula keep that with what you call him i say because when you voice it outside people will look at you as being selfish and say you care about your stats than you do about winning even though that's how you're gonna get paid i get it yeah but you're not going to be able to elicit sympathy from that fan base because we winning Ocho just like Ocho you winning you like man but y 'all don't want seven games in a row how you how you go publicly and tell my man I need to get the ball right right people gonna look at you as being selfish although I understand what it's based on I just wish like I said I would because like a family football team is a family I guarantee you spend more time with the with the football team than you do your real family.

1:08:03Especially during this time. Yes! Basically from July, when you go to training camp, until your season ends, you spend more time with them. You do. You do. And you do everything you can to keep everything in-house. When it gets out, now everybody has their own interpretation to what's going on. Exactly. When you keep it in-house, don't nobody know. You know what's actually being said. you know what and how to fix it. But then once it gets out, like I said, that meeting, I'm trying to figure out how many people knew about that meeting, Ocho? Somebody probably upstairs. I guarantee you that. Somebody knows these, some reporter, you know, a player talking to a reporter that they probably confide in and thought it wouldn't get out or they wouldn't tell anybody.

1:08:51And all of a sudden the rest of the world knows.

1:08:53Shannon Sharpe:Everything's getting out now. You can't, hey. Mm-mm. Trust nothing. Trust absolutely nothing. But now what I knew to be true all alone, Kellen Moore is a damn good offensive coordinator. Absolutely. A damn good one. He was good at Dallas. He was really good at Dallas. He was great. He won a Super Bowl with the Eagles. Normally it's a little low. Normally Detroit doesn't seem to be having that problem. that Ben Johnson left. They don't seem to have that problem that A.G. left on the defensive side of the football. Detroit is playing extremely well. Remember what I said, huh? Remember what I said when Ben Johnson left?

1:09:42When Aaron Glenn left? I said, even though the coaches left, the pieces of that puzzle are still there. So you take the coaches out and the pieces of the puzzle are still there, you can still put it together. You can still put it together because you still got the same pieces. So it doesn't matter who called the play That's why sometimes when I hear fans say, oh, they want coaches fired when things aren't going well. Well, hell. Well, hey, if he had the goddamn players to execute, it wouldn't be no damn problem. Well, Bill Belichick was great at New England because he had the pieces, including Tom.

1:10:15And now they want him, you know, I heard he might get fired sometime this week in North Carolina. Hit Bill. Well, what the hell you want to do?

1:10:23Shannon Sharpe:What you want to do? Well, people look at it. if you don't got Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, and Larry Fitzgerald, you don't have good receivers. But Larry Fitzgerald and Jerry Rice and Randy Moss, I mean, it takes a special type of person to fit that system. And Randy fit the system for a couple of years, and then all of a sudden he wanted more, and Bill said no. Everybody's not going to be able to go, Ocho, weeks. I caught two passes this week. I caught four passes last week. I caught this. No, no, no, no, no, no. Those guys are number one receivers for a reason. For a reason, yeah. New England built their game of plan to win.

1:10:58Other teams built a game plan around great players.

1:11:01Shannon Sharpe:Right, right. That's the difference. So it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing plays up. I think getting away, hey, Sirianni, look, I don't want to see you guys till Monday. I'll see you guys Monday. Don't worry about this tape. I'll see you guys Monday. Come in and we'll have a quick meeting. Get a lift in. Get a run in. Run some of this out. I'll see you guys Monday. Got Tuesday off. Let's be ready to come back to work Wednesday and fix whatever we got going on. It's good to clear our heads, get an opportunity to get away from this. Hey, you don't need to watch television.

1:11:36Shannon Sharpe:You don't need to read the paper. Get to stay off the internet and be ready when we come back in here on Wednesday. Yeah. Let's be ready to work and get this thing done. Get it right. They're going to have to fix it. And don't let anything else come out the locker room. Don't say nothing crazy after the media. I'm not sure who might have talked to the media after the game. I hope they took time to allow themselves to defuse from whatever anger, whatever emotions you may be having. Take a shower first. Take a shower first. Cool off. Then talk to the media. Don't give them no ammunition. You know what I'm surprised, Ocho?

1:12:10Shannon Sharpe:I'm surprised how many people, when they go to the locker room, the first thing they do is check their phone. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Okay, because I'm one of them. I'm shocked by that. Yeah, I'm one of them. Yeah, see, you played in the era that they did have social media. So I'm glad I didn't play in that era. I'm glad. Yeah, it just started. It just started. So I caught social media. The guys, do you think they checked their phone at halftime too?

1:12:45No, I don't know about that one. I don't know about that one. Yeah. My last year, I checked. Okay, I'm out here cutting the food. Let me see what they're talking about. What are you talking about on IG?

1:12:56Shannon Sharpe:Okay, what do you think about the tush push four times? Michael Parsons says this is not football with two trash emojis.

1:13:06Hey, if you can't stop it, don't knock it if you can't stop it. If the Packers were able to do it, that wouldn't be a problem.

1:13:18So, I mean, tush push is not football. So let's talk about some of the plays that other teams run that nobody can stop, that aren't highlighted. True. We're going to start eliminating plays from certain teams that do one thing specifically well. Just because somebody can do something better than anybody can do one thing. Yeah. Hey, find a way to stop it. I know how to stop it. I can't give the formula on how to stop it.

1:13:47Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You know, my brother tells us all the time, he says, my goal was to do my job, do this one thing better than anybody else did anything. I'm fine. It seems to me that the tush push, the Eagles do this better than any other football team does anything else. Whether it's rush the quarterback, whether it's throw the ball, whether it's run the ball, whatever the case is, the Eagles do the tush push better than any other football team do any other thing so I agree with you is it aesthetically pleasing no but I don't believe you should throw it out just because somebody can't stop it

1:14:36so if

1:14:40Shannon Sharpe:Micah says it's trash. He got the two trash cabs with the guy dumping the trash in there. What you think, Ocho? Nah. Micah, and being the competitor he is, it shouldn't matter what anybody else run. Well, you wanted the best in the league. You top three in the league. It shouldn't matter. You got to stop it. Tampa is getting, what you call them, getting big days ready. They're dead. Don't let them move you. At all.