BEST OF NFL Week 6 Part 2: Dolphins collapse continues, ARich STRANGE injury, Cowboys UPSET

15 Oct 2025 · 1 h 3 min · 29 chapters

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In short

NFL Week 6 recap and debate, focused on the Cowboys’ defensive collapse (run defense and sacks), the Dolphins’ continued late-game failures, an ARich (Anthony Richardson) orbital injury, and other standout results (Rams over Ravens; Steelers over Browns; Colts’ Daniel Jones win).

Guest backgrounds

The episode is a two-host sports discussion with “Ocho” and “Chad” as the primary speakers; no formal guest list is provided in the transcript.

Key claims

  1. Cowboys’ defense is “dead last” in multiple categories and is not stopping the run, forcing Dak Prescott to play near-perfect offense.
  2. Blame should shift from coordinators to players as well.
  3. Lamar Jackson’s absence shows how offense is “Lamar-centric”; the Ravens’ production collapses without him.
  4. Cleveland’s offense is overly checkdown-heavy; Steelers’ defense limits them to under 17 points.

Notable examples

  • Panthers beat Cowboys 30-27; Rico Dowdle (183 rushing yards) exposed Dallas.
  • Rams beat Ravens 17-3; Cooper Rush benched for Tyler Huntley.
  • Steelers beat Browns 23-9; Browns failed to exceed 17 points again.
  • Colts: Daniel Jones game-winning drive; Anthony Richardson orbital fracture during warmups.

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Chapters

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Cowboys vs Panthers Overview

0:36 to 1:39

Discussion on the Cowboys' recent loss to the Panthers and defensive struggles.

“Brian Schottenheimer stood up for his defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflues.”

Accountability in Defense

1:39 to 2:21

Exploring the need for player accountability amid coaching changes in the Cowboys' defense.

“But Dak is under the same situation that your quarterback was under last year.”

Surprise Teams of the Season

2:21 to 3:11

Identifying surprise teams this NFL season, including the Panthers and their players.

“we got to start holding the players accountable because we quick to blame that coach, that coordinator, that this, that that.”

Rico Dowdell's Performance

3:11 to 4:40

Highlighting Rico Dowdell's impressive performance and his call to action before the game.

“I mean, excuse me, you saw what they did to the Atlanta Falcons not long ago.”

The Cowboys' Defensive Struggles

4:40 to 7:30

Analyzing the Cowboys' defensive issues including size and performance against the run.

“No, I doubt it, but I thought that, but I was like, hey, they say doubt it.”

Quarterback Performance in Context

7:30 to 11:00

Discussing Dak Prescott's performance under pressure and the challenges presented by the defense.

“Because my team not going to stop anybody.”

Future Strategies for the Cowboys

11:00 to 14:01

Proposing strategies for the Cowboys to improve their defense and overall performance.

“Second to the worst points allowed, averaging 30.7 points a game.”

Building a Defensive Foundation

14:01 to 17:41

The hosts discuss the need for strong defensive players to anchor a team.

“You can't drop anchor with them little light-ass guys they got up there.”

Ravens' Struggles Without Lamar

17:41 to 21:30

Analysis of the Ravens' performance without Lamar Jackson and the implications.

“But the Cowboys, I think I don't care about what we've decided this.”

Value of Key Players in NFL

21:30 to 23:37

A look at the importance of star players and their impact on team success.

“The Ravens' three points are the fewest home since 2002 when the Buccaneers shut out by the Buccaneers 25-0.”
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Accountability in Football

23:37 to 26:52

Discussion on accountability and communication in team settings.

“No, because the offense is Lamar-centric.”

Ravens' Offense and Future Prospects

26:52 to 28:01

Debate on the Ravens' offensive struggles and their future potential.

Division Standings and Team Performance

28:01 to 29:14

Discussing the implications of team performances in the division standings.

“The thing is, is that you're probably going to have to win that division because it looks like, look at the AOC West, Kansas City, Denver, the Chargers.”

The Importance of Quarterbacks

29:15 to 31:28

Exploring the impact of key quarterbacks on team success and overall dynamics.

“Ultra, I don't know if you've ever heard of something like this, but it happened.”

Unusual Injury: Anthony Richardson

31:29 to 32:08

Anthony Richardson's bizarre injury during warm-up raises eyebrows.

“It snapped, popped him in the eye, and I think he lost the vision in the eye.”

Injury Experiences and Reactions

32:09 to 35:28

Sharing personal experiences related to injuries and their unexpected nature.

“Yeah, those little PT bands can't do that?”

Health Complications After Injuries

35:29 to 38:08

Discussing health complications following injuries and recovery challenges.

“And man, so hopefully Anthony Richardson can, you know.”

Quarterback Situations: Success Stories

38:09 to 42:01

Analyzing the success of quarterbacks in their respective situations and teams.

“Sharp, as you can see right there, I was like, yeah, I know.”

Discussion on NFL Conditions and Stadiums

42:01 to 43:16

Exploration of how weather and stadium conditions impact NFL gameplay.

“I'm talking about when real football starts.”

Cleveland Browns Offensive Struggles

43:16 to 44:26

Analyzing the Cleveland Browns' offensive performance and their challenges.

“The Browns offense failed to eclipse 17 points for the 11th straight game.”

Myles Garrett's Contract and Team Performance

44:26 to 46:26

Discussion on Myles Garrett's contract and the Browns' performance issues.

“I guess they want that pass rushing number six from Miami and pair him with Myles Garrett.”

Impact of Losing Streaks on Players

46:26 to 48:29

Insight on how continuous losses affect player mentality and performance.

“They have a bad history at that specific position.”

Quarterback Limitations and Offensive Strategy

48:29 to 49:46

Evaluating quarterback limitations in offensive playcalling and strategy.

“Dylan Gabriel completed four passes over 10 yards in the air today.”

Cleveland's Draft Strategy Discussion

49:46 to 51:16

Speculation on Cleveland's future draft strategies and the talent pool.

“Jerry Judy had 13 targets called five passes.”

Threats in NFL Offenses

51:16 to 53:42

Understanding how to create offensive threats to keep defenses off balance.

“They're going to have to fight the Jets for it.”

Steelers Defense and Quarterback Performance

53:42 to 56:01

Analyzing the Steelers defense and its impact on opposing quarterbacks.

“Man, first of all, we know y 'all not going to throw it deep.”

Tua's Leadership and Accountability

56:01 to 57:42

Discussion on Tua's leadership style and accountability within the team.

“We have guys showing up to player only meetings late guys, not showing up to player only meeting.”

The Role of a Quarterback

57:43 to 1:01:42

Exploration of the quarterback's responsibility and the impact of their actions on the team.

“The context, the context in which they were playing.”

Work Ethic and Team Goals

1:01:43 to 1:03:50

Emphasis on the importance of work ethic in achieving team goals and the balance between professionalism and camaraderie.

“guys looking at that and they're going to say, well, man, I can't wait so I can be late to practice or I can skip this or I can skip that.”
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0:36Shannon Sharpe:Ocho last week Rico Dadell ran for over 200 yards he knew the Cowboys on the schedule they asked him he said tell him to buckle up yeah they didn't buckle up the Cowboys beat the Panthers excuse me the Panthers beat the Cowboys by the score of 30 to 27 another game in which the The Cowboys defense were exposed. Brian Schottenheimer stood up for his defensive coordinator, Matt Eberflues. The Cowboys allowed 216 rushing yards, a season high, led by former Cowboy Rico Dowell, who had 183 yards on 30 carries. It marked the fourth time the Cowboys have allowed at least 144 yards rushing this season.

1:18Shannon Sharpe:It's also the fourth time this season the Cowboys have allowed at least 30 points. It was also the fourth game they have recorded one or fewer sacks. Now, I remember Ocho because, you know, Micah couldn't stop the run and, you know, Dak is indispensable. And Dak is playing well. Yeah. Dak is playing well. Absolutely. But Dak is under the same situation that your quarterback was under last year. Because his defense is so putrid, if he punts the ball, when he gets it back, if he had a lead, they're either going to be tied or they're going to be closer than they were when he punted the ball. Yeah.

1:57Shannon Sharpe:Because his defense can't stop anybody. That defense is atrocious. Now, they keep blaming. I don't know what it is. They fired Mike Nolan. They said it was Mike Nolan. Now, some of those players were still there when Mike Nolan was there. They had Zim. It was Zim. He wasn't no good. They got Mike Iberflues. So they've had three or four different coordinators. And a lot of those same players that were there are still there. Now, I want to know, Ochoa, at some point in time, we got to start holding the players accountable because we quick to blame that coach, that coordinator, that this, that that.

2:31Go ahead. It's the coaches. It's the scheme. But it's never the players, which is why I'm tired of hearing that. I'm tired of hearing that, especially out of the 5-1-3 all the time. But we'll get to that game in a minute. But I said this before the season started. it on. People laughed at me when I said, my surprise team, I had two. I had two. One of them was the Bears, and the other one was the Carolina Panthers. I told them, I want you to watch out for the Panthers. I want you to watch out for Bryce Young, watch out for the defense, and watch out for the receivers. And what are they doing? You saw what they did to the Panthers.

3:11I mean, excuse me, you saw what they did to the Atlanta Falcons not long ago. You saw what he did today. Young Bull, Young Bull. I don't want to butcher his last name. Running back. How do you say it the right way, Young? Dadell. Dadell. People say Dadell, but I think it's Dadell.

3:39Shannon Sharpe:Dadell or Dadell? I've heard it both ways. I don't listen to the broadcast, so chat, y 'all have to tell me how to say it. Ask on the broadcast, how do they say it? Do they say Dinell or they say Donald?

3:55You know, people don't play by their last name now. Yeah. Hey, but listen, boy, he was on a mission. Yeah. He was on a mission. It wasn't nothing cute about him today.

4:05Shannon Sharpe:Oh, no. You know Rico Suave. You know Rico's supposed to be cute. It wasn't nothing cute about Rico today. He told y 'all, this man called his shot. This man said he was going to do. Do you know how difficult that is to call your shot in the middle of the week before the game and tell people to buckle up and then actually go out there and do exactly what you're going to do, which is the reason why you said you need to buckle up on the ground, catching the air. Man, Dowdell was all over the place. He was. Dowdell. Dowdell, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I doubt it, but I thought that, but I was like, hey, they say doubt it.

4:47But Ocho, at some point, at some point, Jerry has to understand his defense is built.

5:00Shannon Sharpe:They're undersized. When you have an undersized defense, what does that mean, Ocho? You're built to play with a lead. A lead, yeah. Because you want to eliminate the run game because you're 14, 17 points up. They're not going to run it. Now you use those underside guys to stream up field. Okay, what happens when you got to sit your light ass in there and catch? They ain't got nobody to hunker down. Now, all I heard, Jerry, I'm very disappointed in you. Because you were yakking. You win a game, you yakking. You had a tie ball game and they couldn't get him off the podium. Hell, they thought it was a ring mask.

5:38Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hurry, hurry, hurry. Step right up. Now, Carolina don't put foot in your butt. Now, Jared didn't speak to the media. Why not? Oh, he didn't speak to it. Oh, no. He didn't speak today? Absolutely not. Why do you want to talk? Yeah, exactly. Front running. Now, oh, hold up. You remember, what was it, last week? Yeah. And then, you remember that, don't you? You see what I'm talking about?

6:13Shannon Sharpe:Now look at it. Everything that went wrong. Well, you know, Micah wasn't good against the run. Okay, Micah gone. What's your problem now? Right. Mm-hmm. Well, we didn't go that far when we had Micah. Okay, how far you going to go without him now? Because you're 2-3-1. Hey, listen. if they're going to have a shot. Now, I know we didn't get to it yet, but offensively, we'll get to that in a minute. But, boy, Dak, he earning every bit of that 60. He earning every bit of that 60 or whatever it is. Empty calories, Ocho. Empty calories. If you say, you know what, Ocho, if you say, man, I'm going to get in shape.

6:52Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to eat healthy. Bro, you go eat Twinkies and Ho-Hos, all them is empty calories. They don't do nothing for you. They satisfy your craving, but they add absolutely no nutritional value. That's what those stats are. You got to understand. Listen, I'm doing my job. I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. This is a team game, right? Yeah, you're supposed to win. Yeah, that too. I need y 'all to stop something over here. They're not. I need y 'all to stop something over here. I will say to his credit though, Ocho, he hasn't turned the ball over. No, no, no. He's playing clean.

7:27Shannon Sharpe:I will concede, but it's hard because he knows he has to be perfect. Because my team not going to stop anybody. Right now we can't stop a parked car.

7:42Shannon Sharpe:So you know that going into the ball game. I already know what I'm up against.

7:51Shannon Sharpe:That's secondary. Look. You can't stop a what? A parked car. I don't know if Diggs I don't know if Diggs is still hurt. He's still, he's not the same. Diggs don't even look the same to me. I know Diggs better than this. I don't know if that injury, if he's 100 % recovered, because I know he's, you know, they fined him 500 ,000 because he wasn't around or whatever's going on. But he doesn't, look, he was always a cluer. He was always a guesser. Yeah. And look, he got incredible hands. He gets his hands on the ball. He coming down with it. And most of the times when he does guess, he guesses in the right way because he knows what's coming.

8:33No, not anymore, Ocho. He's going to play on the offensive side of the ball. He didn't look the same today?

8:38Shannon Sharpe:He ain't looked the same in a while. Yeah. He ain't looked the same in a while. And the defense, and because, look, they got those guys, like I said, teams just going to run the ball. And now when you run the ball, you're going to have to drop the safety down, and now you don't really have no help over the top. Hey, none at all. I mean, if they ran the ball 38 times for 216, Think about it. You dead last in total yards. You like 24th in rush yards allowed. You probably dead last in points. Where are they in points allowed? Because they gave up 40 to the Packers. They gave up 30 today. They gave up, what, 24?

9:13Shannon Sharpe:They probably average giving up 24. They're close to the bottom. They 28 through 32 in points allowed. Listen, nobody should be surprised. if you're in the chat tonight I'm sure you're a faithful fan and you've been watching for a very long time I told you before the season started I told you about them Panthers everybody laughed at me outside of Panthers fans everybody laughed at me oh Ocho man they sorry they this they that I told you I'm going to remind you again keep pounding bitch see here's the problem that I have Ocho you see at some point in time now you're gonna have to like when you get the ball yeah you're gonna have to keep putting points on the board yeah you can't be content when you got a lead they punt the ball you got to go get points again because you know that was an anomaly that your defense stopped them what's the likelihood your defense gonna pitch a shutout the second half not happen they gave up they gave up seven they gave up 10 points in the fourth quarter more times than not they scored three in the fourth quarter so they scored 10 and they gave up 17 Bryce Young 17 to 25 a buck 99, three touchdowns, one pick sacked one time for five yards 38 carries, 216 yards George Pickens playing his ass off hey, well you see remember we talked about, remember I told you you weren't going to have no issues out of bro?

10:55Yep. I told you that conversation, George, I know you're going to see this, boy, I love you. But I love you, I told you. It's okay. It's okay.

11:05Shannon Sharpe:This is why your team is 2-3-1. The Cowboys, dead last in total D. Dead last in pass D. Dead last in third down percentage. Second to the worst points allowed, averaging 30.7 points a game. Damn. Wait, offensively, I'm sure they're way higher than that. Yeah, you ain't overcoming that. No, you can't. You can't. Because think about what you got to think about, Ocho. In order for you to have, they're giving up 30.7. So in order for you to be winning, that means you got to score 30.8. Yeah, a game. A game. That's very difficult. Very. Very difficult.

11:48Shannon Sharpe:They got the second best offense, Ocho. fourth in points they're fourth in points 29.7 so you give up one more oh joe see yeah man we were close all i need to do is score one more point to you and that's what they average guess what they score 29.7 they give up 30.7 so guess what if you score 29 i score 30 who win you know that that situation right there to give people a better perspective to give people better context it sounds like another team when my quarterback is healthy we go through that same issue Yeah, the Bengals. We score on 30 a game when everybody is healthy. Shoot, other teams score on 32.

12:30We score 40, they score 50.

12:33Shannon Sharpe:You can't win. Well, you saw it last year. Y 'all score 38. Y 'all lose 41-38. Y 'all score 35. They score 38. Well, Jerry said Michael was the problem. I don't know. Jerry didn't say anything today. I want to know see front running now see all that you all out the window in the owner's box you all out oh we just having a good time you know the cowboy fans we travel to cowboy we just having a good old time yeah I ain't see hey this is what you saw today Ocho in the place school kids when it's raining outside and you ain't got no recess Yeah, you got to sit there and look out the window. You know, something like this.

13:25How do you fix that, though? This is just not a one-player issue defensively. This is not a one-player issue. You got to get better players.

13:34Shannon Sharpe:You got to get better players. Look, it's hard to get them now because you got what you got. But you have a team that's built on playing with the lead. Well, if you can't get the lead, Ocho, you can't just turn them loose. Because if you just run your ass up the field, they're going to just run where you were left. So you catch it. They're too small. They ain't got no bricks in the back pocket. You can't drop anchor with them little light-ass guys they got up there. Man, they got guys back pocket shaking hands. They're so small in their ass. Hey, matter of fact, you know what? I'm thinking about it.

14:11If I was Jerry, now listen, I'm putting my owner's hat on. I'm putting my owner's hat. I need to get someone to anchor that front, someone that I can build around, and he can be that centerpiece for me.

14:24Shannon Sharpe:Jerry don't care about winning, Ocho. We've been determined that, Ocho, that Jerry don't care about winning, right? I'm just hypothetically talking. Hey, Chad, tell me what you think. Right now, Tennessee Titans, I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons to anchor my defense and build from there out, build from the inside out to start over. What you think? I'm going to George Pickens going to want a lot of money George Pickens going to want at least DK money oh and he going to get DK money okay let me show you let me show you what's going to happen or what can happen okay CeeDee Lamb who's considered the top five quarterback who's considered the top five receiver when we talk about receiving when he goes out let me show you what I can do I can pick up right where you're at oh he's been sensational let me show you what I can do if I get the opportunities that I deserve that I should have got when I was in you know where I'm not going to bring them up.

15:15But I can do the same thing. I can put up number two. I can take you deep or I can take a slant to the house. Man, stop playing. This is what I do.

15:24Shannon Sharpe:If he get his hands on the ball and he face your ass up. It's a wrap. Good luck getting his ass on the ground. That is a wrap. It is a wrap. He reminds you of a smaller version of T.O. You remember how T.O. ran angry? Yeah. If T.O. got the ball in his hands and he faced you up. It's a wrap. You right here in front of him not getting him on the ground. You better hope that, hey, come on, which way you go? I'm going to try to hold him up. Come on, man. Damn. I can't hold him here forever. You bring. Help, come. What the hell? Man. And that's what they have to do with pick. Yeah. If he get the ball in his hands and he turns around and square your ass up.

16:10It's a wrap. And you know what's funny? He's faster than he looked. Yeah. He plays fast.

16:19Shannon Sharpe:He might not be fast. He might have not. I don't even know what he ran. He might have ran 4-4, Ocho. But there are guys that might not run fast but play fast. That's Jerry. Jerry didn't run fast, but he played fast. Emmitt didn't run fast, but he played fast. He has what they call functional speed. He has football speed. Yeah. You get him out there to test. But boy, man, that mofo. Listen, I told you before the season started. You did? I'm glad because I'm like, bro, you got this money. Bro, you got an opportunity to make$200 million to set your family up for generations and generations. I mean, there might be a George Pickens IV that say, my great-great-granddad.

17:10Shannon Sharpe:Put me and put me and put this family in position. Bro, don't waste that day. Don't mess up your money with some foolishness. The best thing to happen, he needed to get out of Pittsburgh. He needed to change his scenery. And sometimes that's what it takes, Ocho. Sometimes it takes a change of scenery. Sometimes it takes somebody, him or her, to get into a new relationship in order for them to be their very best. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And I'm glad for him. But again, I know I know I'm happy. But the Cowboys, I think I don't care about what we've decided this. You and I, we talked about this for years.

17:49Shannon Sharpe:Jerry care more about money. Yeah, we understand. We understand that, too. But I'm thinking from a defensive perspective with them. Yes. And last in every category and every statistic and every metric and every standard when it comes to football. week six november's coming up deadline you never know if you were to make some some type of um hasty move i would love to see them it probably won't happen i'm just thinking i'm putting my gm hat on i'm going to get jeffrey simmons you know quality top three defense defense tackle in the nfl right right now to this day boom i'm putting you right there i'm gonna build around you.

18:30I'm a bit around you.

18:32Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. That's just me. What y 'all think, Chad? Their linebackers aren't very good, Ocho.

18:41Shannon Sharpe:Their linebackers are not very good. They ain't got no plug. I mean, look, Sam Williams, they got guys trying to rush off the edge, but I'm talking about like a Mike backer. Well, hold on. Understand. Let me tell you something. You might not like what they have right now because what that Mike backer has in front of them is light and ass. Now what happens if you go get that big 98 from goddamn over there in Tennessee and you get to be able to run free? Why I want to give him up to you. What you going to give me? Huh? One of the first-round picks that you got from the Packers? Maybe. Hey, listen, if we Jerry, we can negotiate.

19:19Shannon Sharpe:But Jerry don't like that, Ocho. He don't want to give up. Jerry likes to develop players. So Jerry has gotten burned in free agency. And so he's done with it. He's done with it. He's going to get guys that he go get the Jadavion Clowney. And Clowney had, but Clowney, he's not going to move the needle. Right. He's not the Clowney of old. No, no, no, no. And we had that discussion. We don't think he ever lived up to what we thought he was going to be. He was in the draft with Khalil Mack. Kahlil Mack turned out to be the better player. That's what Kahlil Mack is. That's what we thought Jadavion Clowney was going to be.

20:02Shannon Sharpe:Based on what we saw in college, you probably got to go back to an Endomicon suit to find a guy that raised hell. The dominated like Jadavion Clowney did his sophomore year. His junior year, he was just trying not to get hurt. So he didn't play like he did his sophomore year. But go back and look at Ndamukong Su last year. You was like, okay, that's the best player in the country. I forget who won the Heisman Trophy that year. Sam Bradford? Sam Bradford won. Ndamukong Su was the best player in the country that year. That's what we thought Jadavion Clowney was going to be. But we'll see what Jerry's going to do right now.

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20:46Shannon Sharpe:I mean, it would have been lovely to hear from him. But... unfortunately we did not hear from him Ocho

20:59Shannon Sharpe:Ocho the Rams stuffed the Ravens 17-3 dropping the Ravens to 1-5 since the 14-team playoff format started in 2020 only one team Washington in 2020 started 1-5 and made the playoffs the Ravens have been outscored 98-33 in the past three weeks only glimmer of hope is Lamar Jackson could return from his hamstring injury after the week seven bye. Baltimore committed three turnovers, including an interception and a fumble by Cooper Rush, who was benched in the fourth quarter for Tyler Huntley. The Ravens' three points are the fewest home since 2002 when the Buccaneers shut out by the Buccaneers 25-0.

21:40Shannon Sharpe:I was going to say, I wasn't on that table. I don't remember being a Buccaneer. But anyway, Baltimore has lost its past six games without Lamar and failed to score more than 17 points in each. Dehop, bad football gets you to one and five. So whatever you put out there, that's how football works. Can I tell you something? Go ahead. Before you even go, I expected the Rams to do this. I expected the Rams to do this, especially the way the Ravens look and where they're ranked statistically on defense. Can't stop the run. Can't stop the pass. So I understood a high volume passing team with staff was going to come out there and do exactly what they did.

22:22Now, on the other side of things, as much as I want to make fun of you and your Ravens, I'm not. You know why I'm not? Because them being one and five lets me know how valuable Lamar Jackson is. Yeah. How valuable that team is. Let's say Lamar Jackson doesn't play the rest of the season. I say, what y 'all go what? Maybe 1-16? You know, there's a possibility that may happen. There may be some games where, you know, Cooper Rush or Tyler Huntley come in. No, Cooper Rush ain't here.

22:56Shannon Sharpe:And I told him at the beginning of the season. Right. I mean, y 'all remember Cooper Rush? I mean, Cooper Rush had y 'all food. Jerry said he was it. Jerry said there was a good chance he could be the future star of the Cowboys. But, Ed, that's neither here nor there. It lets me know how valuable Lamar Jackson is. You mean to tell me that Lamar Jackson basically puts his team on his shoulders every week and goes out there and wins with this team? He's the reasons why we are able to go and compete week in and week out, even with the shortcomings when you get to the playoffs. He still gives us our best chance.

23:29So what I've seen from the Ravens so far, when Lamar went out, even when he was in, they still had a chance. But with him being out, you don't stand a chance to do nothing.

23:39Shannon Sharpe:No, because the offense is Lamar-centric. So it's going to be hard to win when you build your offense around the guy and that guy's not in there. Like you said, they weren't winning very many games with Lamar in there this year. Cooper Rush, 11 of 19, 72 yards. The man threw the ball 19 times, had 72 yards. So they were – let's just think of it. That was 21 of 34 collectively for 117 yards. And also, not just talking about the quarterback too, the other players on offense, you have to raise your level of play because you don't have eight back there. Because you don't have eight back there, you have to bring your level of play up to par to hide the weakness.

24:24Yes. Quarterbacks out. Zay, baby Zay, well, you that boy. You have to take over in situations like this. when you get to when I see that they're trying to make them plays trying to do extra trying to add that spark to that offense it's just everybody Bateman everybody has to be elective effort we don't have our quarterback that means all of us we got to play damn near perfect especially it's the NFL with free turnovers you're not going to recover because with them turnovers they're getting points off them turnovers

25:00Shannon Sharpe:Because they're not good enough to overcome that. Overcome it, yeah. Yeah. That's the problem. Ocho, people saying I snitched. I didn't snitch. We had the meeting because Mike called the meeting. Right. Mike knew he wasn't in the meeting. Right. I told him what I recommended because I didn't want him to like, man, hey, for me to be talking to him. And all the while, I recommended that Mike suspend his ass for a game. So I told him. totally right right yeah it wasn't no snitch i snitched on myself i snitched on myself if you want to say something because whatever normally whatever happened in that meeting it stayed in the meeting right yeah i just wanted them to know that was my recommendation people are holding you accountable to street guidelines and this ain't the street life this ain't oh joe oh joe yeah if i if i go tell you what i told somebody how's that snitching i told you what i told them yeah normally a snitch don't come back and tell somebody oh man you know I told such and such on you yeah they don't do that it was a meeting we had a meeting what was going to be the punishment clearly finding him wasn't getting the message through right because he kept doing the same thing he kept doing the same thing this is what I recommended now he didn't take my recommendation but I told him I said this is what I recommended Hey, you would have told me that if I was on your team?

26:31You would have told me? I would have told anybody I would have probably just dropped you on the spot I would have had to whoop you

26:37Shannon Sharpe:Hey, we got to fight every day Guess what? You would have missed that next game, I guarantee you You wouldn't have been suspended I would have missed that game? Well, we would have told that locker room up

26:53Shannon Sharpe:I guarantee you we would have told that locker room up

27:00Shannon Sharpe:we gonna tell that locker room up for sure damn we gonna tell the locker room up

27:14Shannon Sharpe:Derrick Henry had one of his best days 24 carries a buck 22 and you only get 3 points you ran the ball really well I mean think about it you had more rush yards than pass yards that's bad and like I said I think they got a bye week so so he'll get an extra week off Lamar get an extra week off so he could come back out of the bye right I mean do you want him to come back out of the bye being that you really don't have a chance of doing anything can they string off seven or eight games in a row they can yeah Yeah, they can. They have that kind of Billy Ocho. I mean, that's Lamar. You believe in Lamar?

27:59Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah, I believe. Okay, then. Well, you believe he can run off three? You see how they look without him? Yes. Okay, you're right. That's crazy. The thing is, is that you're probably going to have to win that division because it looks like, look at the AOC West, Kansas City, Denver, the Chargers. could you possibly get you got AFC South right now, Indy looks good and Jacksonville even though Jacksonville Duval, y 'all want us to talk about the Jags today? Because y 'all got mad at me and Ocho, y 'all don't ever say nothing about the Jags Jags, Jags, Jags, okay where y 'all at? I ain't seen not one person mention nothing about the Jags We talk good about the Jags But Ocho that was the thing, people want us to talk about the team when they are 2-12.

28:52Shannon Sharpe:What are we going to say? Whoa, Jags, Jags, Jags. Okay, hey, Duval, where y 'all at? Y 'all want to talk about the Jags?

29:04Shannon Sharpe:I don't know, Joe. They're going to have to put some stuff together, man. Yeah. Derrick Henry can get hot. He and Lamar can carry a team, Mojo. They did it last year. Absolutely. They did it last year. absolutely i i just i just a lot of people that that yeah there's really nothing there's nothing bad you can obviously there you can pick and talk about lamar jackson and what he can and what he can't do and you know no playoff success but lamar being absent it shows you how valuable how good of a player he is that the team is not even functional offensively without him there no and how important the quarterback position is as well and why he makes and commands the kind of money he's making you take a Lamar Jackson out you see what you get you take a Joe Burr out out the equation you see what he get Josh Allen obviously he hasn't been hurt but I'm sure they wouldn't be able to function as well offensively it just it changes the dynamic of everything that makes your team who it is when these top top tier quarterbacks are no longer available for your had the defense been playing as well as they play today they held them to 17 points you know normally Ocho they give up 40 they give up 30s yeah if they had been playing that well maybe they've won one a few more games get this game here Ocho I'm trying to uh Jordan you see uh Oh, here it is right here.

30:43Shannon Sharpe:I thought, damn, it disappeared on me. You don't want me to see. I'm going to get it, though. I'm going to find it. Who dat? Who dat?

30:56Shannon Sharpe:Ultra, I don't know if you've ever heard of something like this, but it happened. During the Colts pregame warmup, Anthony Richardson fractured his orbital bone when he had an issue with a rubber leg band. So you know how you're doing the stretch band and stuff like that? And I guess it snapped.

31:18Shannon Sharpe:If I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, Chad, you can correct me. I think there was a situation where rest his soul. Congressman Harry Reid had a very similar situation using the exercise band. It snapped, popped him in the eye, and I think he lost the vision in the eye. Then to make matters worse, Tredavious Ward was warming up on the field. He collided with Drew Ogletree, suffered a concussion. He missed the game.

31:47Hey, have you seen something that's happened before? No. Yeah, I've never seen nothing like that happen before. Now, the band and the stretching and it pops, I understand that. Yes. I understand that. Now, that can happen because it's happened to me before, but not to where, you know, it's not anywhere in the face. but hey depending on what band you're using you know they got the thick bands they have the thick but they have the ones

32:17Shannon Sharpe:that they have for PT not those thick weight lifting bands that we attach to the barbells and stuff like that to get extra tension these are the bands that you be stretching the door like that and you see the guy loosening up with them I thought he broke his orbital bone Yeah, it snapped. Yeah, those little PT bands can't do that? Yeah, well, that's what did it. Okay. Damn.

32:51Shannon Sharpe:That's unlucky, man. But think about how many times people have been using those and stretched. And after a while. Right, right, right. Yeah, it gives. Yeah.

33:04Shannon Sharpe:Now, Ocho, you know how you get the medicine balls, Ocho, and you slam them down? Yeah. Boom. And some of them are bounced up to you, and some of them you have to bend down to pick them up. Pick them up, yeah, yeah. And we was in class one day, and this lady got one that she didn't realize it, that it was going to bounce. Yeah. Hit it right in the nose. She slammed it and stood over it. Made that thing say.

33:29Shannon Sharpe:I made that thing hit her the face about four times about four or five times Ocho he's like oh Ocho Ocho I was in the corner

33:45oh you laughing the lady ain't gonna help her

33:47Shannon Sharpe:no I was like this here

33:54Shannon Sharpe:because it's something like you see in the cartoons man you know the cartoons do it that's how it was but it was real life I was like oh my goodness oh hell no that's funny man what you call

34:16Shannon Sharpe:Anthony Richardson got buzzer look Yeah, man. Yeah. I mean, do you understand how unlucky that you have to be for something like that to happen? I mean, you hear stuff like that happen, Mocho. You know, you read like such and such happening. Because I remember, like I said, I think Congressman Harry Reid had something very similar to happen. But he was like elderly. He's probably like 80 years old, 80, 85 years old, maybe even older when that happened. But a young man, something happened like that, man. Gosh. and I'm trying I'm trying listen I obviously I wasn't there I wasn't there to see it I'm just confused on what exercise you might have been doing what stretch you might have been doing for that to be even be possible you know he might have been he might have been laying on his back that's right that's right that's right and then you know like you said maybe it was one of those one of those thicker bands and you know the funny thing about it is when it pops you don't know it's going to pop and you don't have the quick twitch fibers to be able to react fast enough.

35:21Shannon Sharpe:Oh, no, no, no. That thing snap, that pop. It's a wrap. You only react after it's done happen. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Just the thought of that. Just thinking about that. Hell yeah. And man, so hopefully Anthony Richardson can, you know. That's pain. I fractured my orbital. So I know the pain, man. It felt like, you know, well, the doctor said it was like if I was in a bar fight and somebody kicked me in the eye. So I had a complete orbit. I had a complete blowout of the orbital floor because your, your eye sits in a socket, the floor. Right. My floor was completely gone. So my eye dropped like three and a half, four millimeters.

36:08Shannon Sharpe:So they have to go in there. So that's why it's really hard. You know, I'm constantly like my nose because I got a plate. I got a carbon fiber plate. My eye is actually sitting on a carbon fiber plate. You talk about like, hey, this is interesting. I like that. You know, most high-end vehicles have carbon fiber, you know, on the outside and kits. It's light, yeah. So you got it in here? I do. Okay, okay, okay. You're fast. Yeah. But the only thing is, man, and the thing was, Ocho, you know, I was congested. My sister said, man, you oughta use a neti pot. I said, what's a neti pot? It's like a neti pot where you pour water, saline water, salt water up one nostril and let it, you know.

37:01Shannon Sharpe:You tried it? Got infected. The bacteria got caught in that mesh. Looked like somebody punched me in the eye. Eye closed up. I ain't know what. Ocho, it got so infected, I ended up having a MRSA. I was in the hospital for like four days. God damn. Then they sent me home with a PICC line. I was getting 1 ,000, over 1 ,000 milligrams. I was doing like two bags of IV of just antibiotics, vancomycin. So a PICC line. So I got the thing in the pole riding around and it going straight, going straight into trying to get it up out of there. Yeah. Cleared it up. It took me like two weeks to get over it.

37:49Shannon Sharpe:Right. Got another cold. Closed back up. Went to the doctor. He says, we're going to have to change this plate. He said, don't ever use. He said, don't ever use a neti pot again. He said, I got to be careful if I blow my nose. My nose, my nose will start bleeding.

38:07this is interesting to me you damn you like RoboCop yeah I am if you go through the metal detector does it go off or no

38:17Shannon Sharpe:no it doesn't go off but I got the artificial hips and they always you know they go off you like a cyborg okay I like that that's dope all I know is that every time I go off they said that little Richard Carlo So they showed a little red. Mr. Sharp, as you can see right there, I was like, yeah, I know. So they got a – Hey, my dog. Okay. Yeah, man, I had a bad – but hey, well, I was messed up, man. I was messed up. Daniel Jones finished 22 of 30, 2-12, two touchdowns and interception, and he gets credit for a fourth-quarter game-winning drive when he helped engineer a nine-play 66-yard drive that ended with a decisive touchdown with 432 remaining.

39:05Shannon Sharpe:Only two quarterbacks have led Colts to five wins through six weeks since 2000, Peyton Manning and Daniel Jones. Unbelievable. I don't know. When I talk about quarterbacks and I say situation matters, where you go, your environment, the weapons around you, as some people say, oh, coaching matters. Well, listen, coaching only matters when you have players like this. The situation that Baker Mayfield in, the situation that Sam Darnold is in again for the second time. Obviously, the situation in Minnesota. Now you see what he's doing over in Seattle. And now Daniel Jones going for the New York Giants, which wasn't going well.

39:46And what he's doing now in goddamn Indy, it needs to be studied. It needs to be studied. and it's so important, not going high in the draft, forget what number you go, but going to the right situation. Where you go. Yeah, it's all about where you go. It's more important where than ha-ha. Yeah, and Daniel Jones is showing that.

40:08Shannon Sharpe:He's showing that. He's played unbelievable. Indiana Jones has been great. He's parlayed himself into a – he's going to get a big payday. Oh, Joe, if he keeps this up, he's going to get a ginormous payday. I have a question. The funny thing about it is, is he's going to get a huge payday. Are the Colts going, the Colts are going, definitely going to be the team to keep him? Because now he's auditioning. Yeah. Might need a quarterback as well. You know that, right? Who? He's auditioning for other teams that might be in need of a quarterback. They're not letting him out the building. We got him.

40:39Okay. I'm just making sure. He definitely getting that bag.

40:43Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm.

40:48Shannon Sharpe:But a team that we did hear from today, Aaron Rodgers, threw two TDs. as the Steelers continued their home dominance over the Browns by the score of 23-9. Steelers, seemingly, Ocho, on cruise control. They're 4-1 in the division. Cleveland, 1-5. Baltimore, 1-5. I think 1-5. Cincinnati has lost, what, four straight? So now they're 2-4.

41:20Pittsburgh division to lose, Ocho? Yeah, absolutely. And honestly, I don't see him losing it. Damn! Yeah, I can say this. As much as I love my Bengals, I don't see him losing it. Now, I saw something nice we'll talk about later when we get to the Bengals, but goddamn Aaron Rodgers got them boys playing on all cylinders, don't they? Especially on offense, playing on all cylinders. As good as that defense is over in Pittsburgh with the names that they do have, once they start gelling and playing that good football the right way, the way we know they can play, they're going to be fine. As long as Aaron Rodgers is playing like Aaron Rodgers is playing that, they're always going to be in contention, and they're going to be hard to beat.

42:04Forget right now. I ain't talking about week six. I'm talking about when real football starts. After Thanksgiving, getting into the postseason, when it's cold, And you got to go over there. It ain't called Heinz Field no more, huh?

42:17Shannon Sharpe:I think it is. It's still Heinz Field? As far as I know. Heinz Field, well, you ain't going to be able to throw the ball 50 times a game. You're going to have to put it on the ground. And you got Cam Haywood. You got goddamn T.J. Watt coming off that goddamn end. And, damn, I forgot young boy's name. Was it Smith? 56. 56. Highsmith? Yeah. Oh, man. Stop playing, man. Hebring? Yeah, they nice now. Then the back end. really ain't got no weakness. Oh, Joe, it's called Accra Shore Stadium. No longer Highensfield. Accra Shore Stadium. Who the hell is Accra Shore? Don't start me lying. I tell you what, and I mean no disrespect to Accra Shore.

42:56I like to say Highensfield because that's where I played at.

43:01Shannon Sharpe:I played at Highensfield and I played at Three Rivers, the old Three Rivers Stadium. Oh, where they had the carpet? Oh, yeah, yeah. And the stadium would be bouncing. I mean, you can literally see it. It's bouncing up and down. It started rocking. The Browns offense failed to eclipse 17 points for the 11th straight game. Dylan Gabriel, 29 of 52, 221 yards, six times. How do you – so you mean to tell me your guy – you're going to let your guy in his second start, you're going to let him throw the ball 52 times? Against that defense on the road. But, Unc, it's hard to run on the Steelers, huh? It's hard to run on the Steelers.

43:47So the only other viable option is you got to throw it. And when you think about Dylan Gabriel, when you watch him in the games where he's had success, anything inside the numbers, inside the hashes, he's really good. It's nothing really long. You know, sometimes you get some short digs. Yeah.

44:05Shannon Sharpe:If you know that, guess who else knows that, that he's good inside the numbers and on short stuff? The other team. exactly yeah think about it you threw the ball 52 times and you only had 221 yards yeah you missed 23 attempts bro Cleveland if y 'all trying to get the number one pick just say that whoa no they're not no no no they want the number one pick for what to get what quarterback because we done seen on Saturday that's willing to wait for. No. Absolutely not. I guess they want that pass rushing number six from Miami and pair him with Myles Garrett. I don't know. Maybe trade it for some more players.

44:54Okay. I like you. I see where you're going. I like what you're putting up.

44:59Shannon Sharpe:Hey. Myles Garrett said losing the same way is frustrating. Myles, this is what you signed up for. You took the money. I ain't got no problem with that. Ocho, I have no problem with that. But Miles Garrett knew they were not going to win. They really haven't won since he's been there. They've gotten worse. So you can't say it gets old when you took the money. You said you wanted a chance to win. They dangled$40 million per year, gave you$100 plus,$105,$110 million fully guaranteed. You took the money. So now you can't complain because you knew what made you trust them, that they were going to be able to do something in one to two years they haven't been able to do in your tenure since you've been there.

45:46You're talking. But you know that wasn't it. You know why there was no guaranteed money left? I know what it was.

45:54Shannon Sharpe:He ain't got no guaranteed money. He won't guarantee money. He's going to say I won't out. But really, he won't guarantee money. I get that. Ocho, I get it. I do. And Chad, I don't want y 'all to think I don't understand. But don't complain when you said you said you wanted a chance to win. You said you wanted to compete. You knew with the exception of that one year, you guys haven't been able to compete. And you trust this organization to build pieces around you and do the right thing by getting a quarterback? You trusted them? No, you didn't. They have a bad history at that specific position.

46:35the one position you need to be able to compete, to be able to contend. The identity for the Cleveland Browns has always been their defense. It always has been. The hard part has been finding a quarterback that is good, not great, just good enough to consistently not only keep you in games, but win games when you're in certain situations, especially games that are close. You just have, you can go through a string of maybe four weeks, five weeks of really good, I'm talking about consistently throughout a season, especially when it matters most. You haven't been able to find that. No.

47:19Shannon Sharpe:And I'm supposed to trust you that you're going to find that. But what he's finding out, Ocho, is that money really can't buy happiness. When you are a competitor and you want to win and to go out there and beat, yeah, guess what? That direct deposit is going to hit every Monday. Or if you get paid on the 1st and 15th, that deposit is going to hit. But them losses, they hurt. I guarantee you, when you out there taking that L, I have number one time like, man, that check going to be in my, that check going to be, no, I'm going to get my check. So I ain't, I just got direct deposit in 2016. But anyway, I never thought that, hey, I'm going to go upstairs tomorrow and get that paycheck.

47:56Shannon Sharpe:I didn't think about that. We don't think like that. No, we don't. when them L's start to add up Ocho I've been lost six games in a row seven games in a row man please you out there practicing and then guess what guess what's about to happen Ocho tell them what's gonna happen in Cleveland that temperature about to drop it's gonna get cold it's gonna get cold get cold and guess what you get cold now you out there practicing in the 20 degrees and then come Sunday you practice you playing in 20 degrees 15-10 and you catching L after L after L after L. Don't joke. Dylan Gabriel completed four passes over 10 yards in the air today.

48:39Shannon Sharpe:He threw the ball 52 times. Kevin Stefanski kept him in the game for the entirety of the game. But I just told you, they don't, you see how they protect Justin Fields when they're going to the end of the half because of the decision making? We don't know what he's going to do with the ball. So how do you hide the quarterback weaknesses? Whatever weaknesses he may have that we can't see. Now, you and I know he can't throw outside the numbers. He can't be on the left half and throw an ATR comeback on the right side. Oh, hell no. That's not the type of quarterback. He will come back the other way for a touchdown.

49:19So you have to call plays that are predicated to his strengths. his strengths are throwing intermediate and short routes so therefore all plays based on what he's able to do extremely well now that's no knock on him that's no knock on him so what we ask of you that's all we're asking you based on what you can do well for us offensively that's what we're going to do because that's what you provide for us as a quarterback now that limits your playbook it limits what you call it limits some of the things you like to do as opposed to other quarterbacks to have the arm strength or the other or the prowess to be able to open up the playbook and do and do more that's what you have to do so I mean I didn't I didn't want to say it like that I thought everyone else could see that and understood that especially when you when you watch him play some of the some of the players at a call now some some frustrations might might arise with with maybe maybe Jerry Judy.

50:17Shannon Sharpe:Jerry Judy had 13 targets called five passes. Fannin Jr. had 10 targets, caught seven. And Joko had six, caught three. Damn. Ocho, I had more DK, four catches. Man, he had a goal ball. Yeah. And Roger and the wind caught it. It brought it back. I mean, he was like five yards in front of the DB. Yeah, it was a wrap. Hold on. Wait, he caught one deep ball on that. He caught a deep ball. That was later. But he ended up, but he had one. That would have been a show enough touchdown. And Rodgers put it up, and I guess the wind caught it. Because Rodgers, he turned around and looked up like, damn. I didn't know it was like that.

51:05Shannon Sharpe:Okay. But I don't know what Cleveland's doing. I don't know if they're trying to get the number one pick. No. They're going to have to fight the Jets for it. There's nothing out there. Now, this is no knock and chat. Y 'all know because y 'all watch college football. There is nothing out there that is glaring where it's like where teams are clamoring for those who are in situations like the Browns or let's say like the Cowboys defensively where, you know, we got to have him. We got to have him. So we're going to do what's necessary to make sure we're in position to be able to get him. It's nobody like that right now.

51:47and nobody popping out on film. It might be some offensive tackle or some defensive tackles that we don't know about, but the skill position, the quarterbacks, no.

51:56Shannon Sharpe:They need to go get that Cowboys. They need to trade the two draft picks they got this year and to go up there and get that guy from Miami, Bain Jr. Hey, hey, hey. You need a hellraiser like that. Those are the type of guys that change your future, that change your fortune. That's what they need. He nice. Hell yeah. But I don't like Dylan Gabriel throwing, letting Dylan Gabriel throw the ball 52 times. He threw four passes that had 10 yards of air distance. He completed four passes over 10 yards in the air today. So everything is checked down. Dinkin' and Duncan are checking it down. Now, you know, Dinkin' and Duncan can work.

52:42It can work depending on the – you can be efficient Dinkin' and Duncan, But at some point, once the boys say, you know what, we coming up, we can –

52:51Shannon Sharpe:You got to be able to put the ball over the head, though, Ocho, at some point in time. You got to put a man – you got to put somebody under a threat. Yeah, fear. You got to put fear. You got to put – Ocho, if I don't – bro, I'm – I'm sitting on everything. We used to play the Raiders and the Chiefs. You had to throw – in the first 10 plays, you had to throw a goal ball or them mofos going to sit right there. On everything. on everything. When you played the Raiders, when you had T-Mac and they had Albert Lewis or we went over there and they had Dale Carter in Kansas City and they had what's, oh I forget the guy's name.

53:27Shannon Sharpe:Lord have mercy. If you did not move them, if you did not throw a goal ball, it's like look, we ain't trying to complete it but you gotta put fear on them. Boy, they ain't moving. Keep them thinking. They not moving. Yeah. Man, first of all, we know y 'all not going to throw it deep. You know why we know y 'all not going to throw it deep? Because we know y 'all don't have a really offensive line that can hold up to throw it deep. And then second of all, if you do throw it deep, guess what, Ocho? You ain't got no running game, so what am I stepping up to stop the run for? Yeah. So with that being said, now we squatting on everything.

54:08Shannon Sharpe:Prove to me I'm wrong. I dare you. Juckins is hurt. He had 12 carries for 36 yards. He might have got hurt in the game. I was back and forth. It's hard for me to stay interested in that right there, Ocho. It's hard. I watched the series and I was like, bro, what is this? Yeah, I thought they would have leaned on him a little bit more. So I thought, well, maybe he's hurt. Maybe something's wrong with him. But if your quarterback isn't as good or you're not able to do some of the things you want to do to make sure you're able to be competitive, you want to hide him by running the ball a little bit more.

54:55You want to put that load and that onus on your running back to be able to get things going or to make it easier. Forget balance. You got to be a run-heavy team first.

55:11Shannon Sharpe:You got to be. I ain't trying to do no balance. You ain't got no balance with that right there. I mean, Jalen Ramsey had two sacks. Jalen Ramsey, I'm going to try to get me 10 sacks as a corner.

55:26Shannon Sharpe:Hebrick had two sacks. Highsmith had a half a sack. TJ had a half a sack. so they have six sacks total.

55:38Shannon Sharpe:But I don't know what Cleveland's trying to do. But whatever it is, they need to stop. You know what? It's almost unfair. It's almost unfair to have to judge Gabriel against that damn defense. It's almost unfair. I know it's your division opponent, but hell, it ain't that many people that look good against the goddamn Steelers. And the quarterbacks that do, you know they're in conversations of the upper echelon when quarterbacks when it comes to being able to dismantle that damn defense

56:15Shannon Sharpe:oh joe the chargers yeah beat the dolphins who have now lost four games this season in which they trailed by one score in the final two minutes after the game tool was asked how players can refrain from feeling sorry for themselves oh joe take a listen to his response I think it starts with the leadership in in helping articulate that for the guys and then what we're expecting out of the guys. Right. We're expecting this. Are we getting that? Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up to player only meetings late guys, not showing up to player only meeting. Like there's a lot that goes into that.

56:52Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory? So so it's it's a lot of a lot of things of that nature. that we got to get cleaned up. And it starts with the little things like that. Be clear, you're saying some players were late or missed? Late, yeah.

57:14Obviously, you can say some of these things. I like that. Tua being the quarterback, being a leader, having that C on his chest and addressing those things publicly. But you can't throw your players under the bus, Tom. You can't throw your players under the bus like that. You can't do that. you can't throw your players under the bus like that because even though you are the quarterback they're not gonna view that lightly they're not gonna they're not they're not gonna like that

57:41Shannon Sharpe:huh is that i know hold on chad i want to make sure i'm hearing you correct this is not the ocho that i say that he said he won't people tell the truth now is it well hold on you got mad at me when i was happy that cam war say hey we asked well you know i I mean, you said that I'm glad you I was trying to get you to see the big picture, but you was in the forest and you didn't see the trees. Yeah, this is why. Yeah. See, not now. See, but it's different. The context, the context in which they were playing. It's OK. He wasn't talking about nobody. He said we collectively as a group. But that's that's almost like snitching.

58:19Like, what do you mean? OK, we that's in house. You know, I was late. Come and holler at your boy. Come holler at me. Let me know. You know what? I was late. Whatever my – but you don't go tell the media. You don't do. Come on now.

58:33Shannon Sharpe:I don't know how Mike McDaniels make it through the end of the season. End of the season? He said this is a leadership. He said do we make it mandatory or is it not mandatory? He's putting the onus on the coach. Right. But obviously when it comes to players only meeting, the coaches don't have anything to do with that. That is something that is, hey, listen, we're going to have a meeting. We need to make sure everybody's on the same page. We need to make sure everybody's on the page. so let's meet at so-and-so time. Now, that's between coaches. I get it. I mean, I see my coach, that's between players.

59:01Players, but here's the thing.

59:02Shannon Sharpe:Those that put that C on your chest. What happened, Ocho, is that when guys were showing up late for meetings that were mandatory, that the coach had said, when guys were showing up late for practice, and the coach didn't nip it in the bud until it got too late. And so what was one or two turned to three to four, turned into five or six. now the story the report was that there were two main culprits and neither one of them one's on our and one is playing extremely well in pittsburgh but they were the main culprits but they didn't say they were the only culprits so hold on again brian says i want to know what part of this is he going to take accountability for two or three picks today to his third in the nfl with the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback.

59:51Shannon Sharpe:If you haven't said this privately first, then in the media, I don't respect it. And since we're on the topic of respect, I guarantee a lot of players don't respect Tua. Tua points the finger and literally has four pointing back at him. If you want to win, put yours in. See, hey, listen, you know what? And see, he just said it. He just said it. You know, I understand. I've been in the locker room before. When it comes to the quarterback position, When things aren't going well, you take it on yourself. When things aren't going, when things aren't going, it's my fault. I got to do better. I have to play better.

1:00:30When things are going well, you praise everybody else. What I was able to do is because my offensive line, because my receivers are playing well, my running backs, they're running the ball really well. You can't do this because the reaction you're going to get from the players, well, damn, that's – Yeah, they say, hold on, two attack or turnover. That's how you feel? You got to be careful. You got to be careful. You're 14? I'm getting up.

1:00:57Shannon Sharpe:He only a year... He only a year four or five. I'm a year 13, 14. And I'm getting my ass up and getting there. Oh, no. See, listen. You've been doing it consecutive years. So you're used to the program. Yes. For year three, you know, you're not acclimated to the program just yet. Not just yet. I know you're still a professional. But here's the thing, Ocho. What I understood is that I knew he was that good of a player, and one day he would sit in my chair. Yeah, and understand. And I didn't want to see. And guys look at you. Because I saw a lot of guys, and I was like, man, I can't wait. I start making plays.

1:01:40Shannon Sharpe:And if I can make a Pro Bowl, make an All-Pro. guys looking at that and they're going to say, well, man, I can't wait so I can be late to practice or I can skip this or I can skip that. I see you going with it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We going to do it right. We going to have fun. I want to have fun too. Hey, Sharp Man, we gambling. Sharp there. We're going to have a good time but when it comes time to work, We finna work. We gon' work. Ocho, we be in training camp. Coob would come in there. Before we go to practice, Coob, our offensive coordinator, he say, the boss need you to get him going today.

1:02:32Shannon Sharpe:Okay, okay. So now, Ocho, I go in there, oh, uh-oh, I'm gonna strike up the band on today. Boom, boom, I start beating on, Ocho, I'm beating on the locker. Boom, boom, boom. boom boom boom boom oh i'm gonna strike up the band on y 'all oh yeah i'm going crazy she's going crazy today yeah who's gonna get this work practice hey crazy hey cool week

1:03:04Shannon Sharpe:we're gonna get that work in yeah we're gonna have a good time but we got to work i'm not I'm not wasting my time. Right, right, right. I ain't here to lose. I'm not putting all this time in. I didn't spend all this money in the offseason. I don't eat the way I eat to come in here and be 6-10, to be 5-11. I'm coming to win. I'm trying to get to the playoffs. I'm trying to win the division, get to the playoffs. I'm trying to get to a Super Bowl. That's all I'm trying to do. All that other ish don't even matter to me. We can be friends or we can – look, we can be friends or we can be friendly. They're two different things.

1:03:35I like that. I like that. And everybody on the 53-man roster, they do not get along. No. We all live for one common goal. Yes. I like that. I like that. I like that. We could be friends and we'd be friendly. I like that. That's a good one.

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Join Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson as they recap the best NFL stories of Week 6 of the 2025 NFL season including Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys fall to the Carolina Panthers, the Miami Dolphins internal conflicts continuing, Anthony Richardson suffering an injury in pregame warmus, and much more!


00:00 - Panthers Def. Cowboys
20:25 - Rams Def. Ravens
30:20 - Anthony Richardson injured in pregame
40:14 - Steelers Def. Browns
55:40 - Dolphins Def. spiraling Dolphins

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