BEST OF Part 2: SHOCKED Jaxson's QB1, Micah BOOED in Dallas, & JAGS MISUSING Travis Hunter

27 Sep 2025 · 1 h 2 min · 25 chapters

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In short

“Best of Part 2” football talk focused on the Giants’ QB change (Brian Dayball naming Jackson Dart QB1), Russell Wilson’s demotion and response, and how coordinators/receivers are blamed or credited; plus Micah Parsons’ return to Dallas and the Falcons’ firing of WR coach Ike Hilliard after a 30-0 loss.

Guests

No named guests appear in the transcript. The hosts are “Tab Ramos from Inside American Soccer” (intro ad read) and the main football duo including “Ocho” (Chad Johnson) and “Zach” (co-host).

Key claims

  • Dayball chose Jackson Dart as QB1 for the rest of the season; Russ is backup.
  • Quarterbacks get too much credit and too much blame; offensive line and execution matter.
  • Dart “bought time” after playing well; even if he succeeds, coaching turnover could follow.
  • Micah Parsons expects applause, not boos, and says there’s “hard feelings” but no “welcome back tribute.”
  • Falcons’ firing of the receivers coach after Week 3 doesn’t make sense; the QB played poorly.

Notable examples

  • Russ’s end-zone throw on 4th down and interceptions.
  • Malik Nabors describes needing to be put in position and given the ball.
  • Parsons’ return to Dallas; contract talk and fan behavior.
  • Falcons shutout by Panthers; Penix Jr. two interceptions, one total TD pass this season.

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Chapters

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Jackson Darick Named QB1

0:00 to 0:34

Discussing the decision to make Jackson Darick the starting quarterback and its implications.

“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”

Jackson Darick Named QB1

3:21 to 4:15

Discussing the decision to make Jackson Darick the starting quarterback and its implications.

“Here's what Dayball had to say earlier today on the decision.”

Analysis of QB Decision

4:15 to 8:30

Analyzing the quarterback situation and the potential impact on the team's future.

“Who's the one guy that can save Brian Dayball's job, Ocho?”

Receiver Perspectives

8:30 to 14:47

Exploring the perspectives of receivers on their roles and the importance of being put in position to succeed.

“And I think, you know, him throwing the ball out of the end zone on fourth down didn't do himself any favors.”

Quarterbacks: Pressure and Performance

17:56 to 20:56

Discussion on the pressures faced by quarterbacks and the expectations versus reality.

“Like I said, quarterbacks get a lot of credit, far too much.”

Realizing Value in Ideal Situations

20:59 to 22:05

Exploring how players often don't appreciate their fortunate situations until they're gone.

“Situation different when Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay.”

Transitioning Between Teams

22:07 to 23:23

Analyzing the challenges quarterbacks face when transitioning to new teams.

“Most of the time it doesn't happen like that.”

Handling Job Security and Expectations

23:25 to 26:12

Discussing how players cope with the anxiety of job security and performance expectations.

“Jameis Winston Tampa and Tom Brady coming into a team that is already ready to establish?”

Looking Ahead: Upcoming Games

26:13 to 28:00

Previewing upcoming games and the potential challenges teams may face.

“I can't wait to add this to the pamphlet.”

Giants' Challenging Schedule

28:00 to 29:25

Discussion on the tough upcoming schedule for the Giants.

“So, I mean, boy, it's not an easy road that the Giants have to go.”
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Giants' Challenging Schedule

30:31 to 31:09

Discussion on the tough upcoming schedule for the Giants.

“At Orderly Meds, we know this time is a reminder that life is full of new beginnings.”

Giants' Challenging Schedule

31:13 to 31:28

Discussion on the tough upcoming schedule for the Giants.

“Because every new season is an opportunity to take the next step forward.”

Micah Parsons' Return to Dallas

32:02 to 42:00

Discussion on Micah Parsons' feelings about returning to Dallas and the fans' reactions.

“I think something that makes me well-studded to be a nurse is my empathy.”

NFL Player Mindset and Injuries

42:00 to 44:16

Explore the mentality of football players regarding injuries and performance expectations.

“Man, listen, I'm here to play football, man.”

Coaching Changes in the NFL

44:16 to 45:56

Discussion around the recent firing of a wide receiver coach and its implications.

“They used to call me the dog whisperer back in 92.”

Falcons' Struggles and Quarterback Play

45:56 to 48:00

Analyze the Falcons' recent performance and the quarterback's responsibilities.

“If you're shaking things up, I don't understand how to put...”

Analyzing the Falcons' Offensive Issues

48:00 to 50:00

Delve into the offensive problems faced by the Falcons and coaching decisions.

“Because we thought the Falcons were going to be good.”

Impact of Injuries on Team Performance

50:00 to 52:36

Discussion on the significance of player injuries, including key players missing games.

“This move befuddles me because I've never heard, like I said, maybe something happened.”

NFL Player Experiences and Resilience

52:36 to 56:01

Personal stories shared about injuries and resilience from past NFL experiences.

“but we saw some of the promise that they showed last year at the end of the season when Penix came in.”

Injury Stories and Team Dynamics

56:01 to 1:00:15

Listeners will hear anecdotes about injuries and team experiences in sports.

“If I played with you, wouldn't none of that happen.”

Travis Hunter's Usage in Jacksonville

1:00:16 to 1:03:49

Discussion on how Travis Hunter is being utilized by the Jaguars and the implications.

“And that's not going to change until after the season where he'll spread his wings a little bit on offensive.”

Expectations for Elite Performance

1:03:50 to 1:10:00

Exploration of the challenges faced by elite athletes in the NFL and the expectations of their performance.

“So I think it's kind of smart, smart them the way they're using them right now.”

The Challenge of Elite Talent

1:10:00 to 1:12:53

Discussing the difficulty of reaching elite status in sports and the hard work involved.

“outside of elite skilled players at most of the time it's a receiver.”

The Challenge of Elite Talent

1:12:54 to 1:13:32

Discussing the difficulty of reaching elite status in sports and the hard work involved.

“At Orderly Meds, we know this time is a reminder that life is full of new beginnings.”

The Challenge of Elite Talent

1:15:29 to 1:16:01

Discussing the difficulty of reaching elite status in sports and the hard work involved.

“They set standards, broke records, empowered people to build bigger and higher, to dig deeper, to make the impossible possible.”
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3:20Shannon Sharpe:Brian Dayball named Jackson Darick QB1 for the rest of the season. Here's what Dayball had to say earlier today on the decision. So in terms of the quarterback situation, I met both with Russ yesterday and Jackson privately. And Russ was nothing but a pro, which I would expect him to be. It's my decision going with Jackson. We're going to get him ready to play this week and the remainder of the season. He's going to do everything he can. Russ will be the backup. The conversations that I've had with these young men will be private. The details will be private. All I can tell you is we're going with Jackson, and we're getting ready to play.

4:05Shannon Sharpe:So I'm not going to add too much to it. Those are private conversations. It's my decision, and we're going with Jackson.

4:15Shannon Sharpe:Ocho are we gonna go ahead here versus okay okay here's what Russ had to say about the demotion yeah yeah let me hear that let me hear that let me in my dog let me in my dog

4:27I think that for me just staying ready you know knowing what I'm capable of like I said life is about response um and uh you know I can control two things and that's my attitude and my gratitude and you know I think the other thing I can control is my work ethic and my preparation to be ready when my name's called again because I know what I can do and I know you know I know I'm gonna do it again you know so that's that's what I'm excited about now Chad you're saying I ain't gonna rage

4:56Shannon Sharpe:bait I ain't gonna do no kind of baiting when I told you guys what was gonna happen you don't know what you're talking about they got even my guy even my co-host the man been with me for two years we've been through thick and thin i said oh i said look at the way the man playing now i'm telling you what's gonna happen i say over under eight weeks i said russ is gonna start jackson dart is gonna be the start the backup and then james will be the third string quarterback nah nah nah everybody everybody was agreeing with you i said oh i can see the way this thing playing out because they drafted this guy and at the end of the day the one guy that can save my job is not Russ.

5:36Shannon Sharpe:It's not Jameis Winston. Who's the one guy that can save Brian Dayball's job, Ocho? Did you hear what you just said? I love that you went that route. Who's the one guy that can save my job? The guy that I wanted? The guy that I drafted? But you throw a rookie quarterback out there, right? In the middle of the season, in the worst part of the season for them schedule-wise, based on the opponents that they have to play, what happens when he doesn't play well? What happens if you stick to your guns and you say, once you make this decision, you can't turn back and go. Well, he said he's the quarterback for the rest of the year.

6:10Shannon Sharpe:For the rest of the year. So you can't turn back and go. Unless he gets injured, you're absolutely correct. And I wouldn't expect them to turn back and go back. But here's the thing, Ocho. Even if you lose too many games and Jackson Dart comes in and plays well, somebody else is going to be coaching him next year anyway. So you've got to go with him. Hey, listen, you was going right where I was going. Because I'm going to say, most of the time, I'm thinking as a rookie quarterback. Listen, Jackson Dart, he showed flashes of brilliance, obviously, in the preseason. But again, that's preseason. You know how the defense is a very, very vanilla.

6:42I think if he plays well enough, two things can happen. Either he can play well or he can play bad. If he plays bad, the ball, you got it there. If he plays well and shows what we've already seen, hell, you still might be fired. True. If Jackson Dart plays well, I think he's going to buy the ball some time.

6:59Shannon Sharpe:He might be right. Now, this is what we know. I think he's going to buy it some time. We saw he got the job in New York because of how well he worked with Josh Allen. But we see Josh Allen after he leaves still go wins an MVP. Okay. Right. He has Indiana Jones. Indiana Jones looks better away from New York than he did in New York. So how much are we to deduce that Dayball might not be the quarterback whisperer that we really thought he was? because Josh Allen is still playing at the MVP level. He's the MVP frontrunner as we currently speak. And you look at Indiana Jones, what he's doing with the Colts.

7:43Shannon Sharpe:So, like I said, we talked about it Sunday. I said, Ocho, if it's me, I'm going to start him against the Chargers at home. I'm not going to start him on the road in a hostile environment. I'm going to start him because at least it will buy them some time. Yeah. But I'm starting him Sunday. I said I'll start him Sunday against the Chargers, and then I'm going to go from there. But I knew this was going to come sooner rather than later just based on, look, it's never just one guy's fault. You can't make 22 changes, Ocho. You can make what's the one change that I think can significantly impact. Impact the game.

8:21Shannon Sharpe:They believe it's the quarterback position. Now, the offensive line is going to have to play better. Everybody's going to have to play better, pick up their plate. You know, there are some mistakes that was made on Russ. And I think, you know, him throwing the ball out of the end zone on fourth down didn't do himself any favors. Throwing a couple of picks. But like you said, Ocho, it's not all on Russ. But the quarterback, they get way too much credit and they take way too much blame. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I feel bad for Russ. I feel bad for Russ. but this is what happens when you're towards the end of your career and you're going from team to team.

9:00Russ is a great guy. Russ is a great guy. He's a professional. He's the ultimate professional at the quarterback position. He's similar to what – if you were to have a comparison to Russell Wilson when it comes to a receiver that does everything the right way as a professional, I look at Larry Fitzgerald.

9:16Shannon Sharpe:Yep. You know, when it comes to quarterbacking, does all the right things. Yep. Everything. So for Russ, you know, I feel bad for him. God-fearing man, one of God's children Says all the right things, does all the right things He works hard, but obviously now it's In Jackson's dark team, again, I told you, Unc, I would be I would be in New York, right? So I'm in New York tonight, so who you think I saw at the Inter-Miami game? And I told you I won't see him. Malik Neighbors Malik Neighbors, so we sit to have A conversation, I noticed the cameras are watching So they can't read no lips I said, I'll flip my back and turn to me And ask the questions that's necessary You know, how you feeling?

9:53thing not going well how do you feel about not getting the ball what do they need to do to be able to get you the ball putting you in different positions and obviously we had a conversation very lengthy conversation about 30 minutes you know on the field on the pitch before the game started and obviously as any as any receiver feels and wants i won't say anything verbatim put me in positions to make the plays i'm gonna make them that's it put me throw me the ball that's it it's pretty simple it's not it's not a complicated possible no that's it put me in positions to make the plays and put the ball in the area and the vicinity if anywhere i can reach it i'm gonna catch it it was simple as that simple as that obviously some other things but i can't disclose those but that's it yeah that's it i'm gonna be all right and then he of course he say it don't matter who playing quarterback right that don't matter not not not to me i'm him yeah i gotta go

10:48Shannon Sharpe:do my job but in order for me to do my job i need people to put me in position to do my job yeah yeah well you say shatter i need you i need you to uh clean the gutters well i'm gonna clean the gutter but you damn better give me a ladder so i can get my ass up there you can't tell me to do something no joy didn't look if i can win damn near any war if you give me the machine the artillery to go fight said war. You want me to go compete? Give me opportunities. Put me in position so I can compete. And that's all he's saying. He's like, look, yeah, who wouldn't want to have a top five quarterback?

11:26Shannon Sharpe:But we know there's 32 teams and every quarterback situation is different. But what makes those guys unique is that their coordinators put them in position. Jerry got put in position. Randy and Chris Carter, then Marvin Harrison, then the Larry Fitzgerald. All the receivers that has these numbers, the Pro Bowls, the All-Pros got put in position. No matter what you think about who's your offensive coordinator, Zeke Borkowski? No, no, no, Borkowski, Borkowski, I mean, no. He was for a couple of years, right? Bob Borkowski. Bob Borkowski, yeah, Bob Borkowski. So it doesn't matter. It doesn't have to be a Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay or this or that.

12:05Shannon Sharpe:All you have to do is understand the pieces and move them appropriately. hey you notice what you just said understand the pieces that you have understanding your players strengths and weaknesses for the coordinators not having egos and saying this is my scheme this is where i'm going to run it i'm going to put you in position and you have to get open based on my philosophy my ideologies and my scheme the the more creative the more creative uh coordinators whoever the whoever the goddamn lion's score off the coordinator is the andy reeds to Kyle Shanahan's, well, I know what he's good at. I know what he's not good at, so I'm not going to put him in that position for him to get exposed.

12:44Everybody plays receiver, but everybody can't get open the same.

12:47Shannon Sharpe:Some people you got to stack them. Some people you got to move them. Some people you got to put them in the slot. Some people, it is what it is. See, our job is – go ahead. Go ahead. Make your point. Unless you're one of those tier one receivers where all the – what's the word I want to look? all the things that the makeup of being a great receiver, they're really good at all of them. Like Jamar Chase's. I see Malik Nabors as a tier one receiver where you don't need much creativity. I can get what I need to get done off the muscle because I'm like that. It's only a few of them too. It ain't called a handful.

13:24Oh, it's only a handful. And I'm not going to get into that because I don't want to piss nobody off. But I watch them.

13:30Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing here, Ocho, is that when you look at these guys, is that my job was easy playing for Mike because I know Mike's aggressive. So Mike's going to take chances where unnecessarily like some coordinator is going to play it strictly by the book. Mike going for the juggler. And I know that he's going to call plays accordingly. So now I can do things accordingly. Look, when you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice. Like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver and everything came together fast.

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17:56Shannon Sharpe:Like I said, quarterbacks get a lot of credit, far too much. They get far too much blame. But I saw this coming. I saw this coming when Jackson Dart played well, Osho, and we had our final show after Jackson Dart played well. I said over under I really wanted to say the first quarter the first four games. I like Ocho This kid playing this kid unless Russ blows it out of the water Well, he blew it out. He blew it out the water to that game at Dallas game. I thought oh, yeah He just bought himself some time. He bought himself at least three four five games and then after arm Who that they just played?

18:37Kansas City. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's the Chiefs.

18:44Shannon Sharpe:It's the Chiefs. But see, people don't look at the Chiefs. If we looked at it, if the three years ago Chiefs, I said, OK, you got a point, Ocho. You got a point. Oh, so the struggling Chiefs don't count. No, hell no. Hell no. And I think the first game they played the Commanders, look. Right. He bought, he basically, he bought them. They was hoping. Let me tell you. looking at it from from my perspective and having my years of experience there were hoping to rush by them a little bit more time Ocho I agree with you I don't they didn't want him to play this soon they was hoping they were hoping Russ could buy them some time at least half a season give us half a season yeah but at this current pace dayball wasn't gonna have half a season they're gonna end up they're gonna end up firing him he saw their boy it was just it wasn't going to be this is the thing what I don't like Russell Wilson is not in a position to where he used to be where he can elevate a team where he's a quarterback that can elevate the team regardless to the pieces that surround him now he's in a position as a quarterback who's somewhat still adequate but needs to play around him to elevate his play he needs words before Ocho he can get away with less than ideal situations.

20:07Shannon Sharpe:He didn't need the Great Wall of China to be his offensive line. He didn't need two, three, four wide receivers on the tight end. He didn't need a lights out, even though he had that in Seattle. But now he needs more. As we get older, we need more. Tom went and got more. Peyton went and got more. Aaron Rodgers, he needed more. And that's what happens as we get older. We need more help. So now where we can elevate everyone else, we need someone to help elevate us. Yeah. I think somewhat, too, it's not fair. You look at the situations in which he went to. He went to Denver. I'm not saying Denver, there's anything wrong with Denver.

20:54But I'm just saying it wasn't, to me, an ideal situation for him. Similar to when Peyton Manning went to Denver. It was a different ballgame. Situation different when Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay. it was a different ball game. I think the situations that he went to weren't ideal for him to continue to have success the way we're used to seeing Russell Wilson have success.

21:13Shannon Sharpe:I think sometimes, Ocho, and this is what I'm saying, sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't. See, Russ didn't realize... What the hell? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You ain't just gonna... Whoa. Whoa. Hold on right now. Stay right now. Uh-uh. Hey, what are you cooking? Hold on. Hold on. Oh, I'm using that. Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't. See, Russ didn't realize how great of a situation he had in Seattle. You see, he wanted more. He wanted more control. He wanted more input. He wanted more of this and more of that. He goes somewhere, and he didn't have what he had in Seattle.

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21:53Shannon Sharpe:He didn't realize how good he actually had it in Seattle. Sometimes we don't realize just how good we have something until it's taken away from us. And then you actually realize. see we take for granted the ability to hear and the ability to smell and the ability of the taste or have all uses of our limbs then when you don't have such you realize like damn you don't realize how how the hell did i survive without a telephone this long how the hell did they oh i couldn't imagine not being able to watch tv i can't imagine not being able to go to a restaurant and just order whatever i want right so he had that situation and he wanted more now he got he got financial security oh yeah oh yeah for a couple of generations oh yeah but at the end of the day we haven't thought of we haven't rust really haven't consistently looked like seattle rust since he left seattle yeah yeah i mean we understand that we played the game so we understand situations when you change when you leave a team like that that's great as they were offensively and especially defensively you would hope and want ideal situations similar to what you left from but most of the time it doesn't happen like that.

23:12Most of the time it doesn't happen like that. Going from Peyton Manning going from Indy and then going to Denver an already stacked team, Super Bowl ready team, all that was missing was a quarterback. The goddamn Jameis Winston Tampa and Tom Brady coming into a team that is already ready to establish? We just need a quarterback?

23:32Shannon Sharpe:You have to understand, because I was, look, in Denver, I'm very close to, because all my people, a lot of my people were still there. And I would go back, and I watched how Peyton ingratiated himself. He was not standoffish, took time for everybody. He was Peyton Manning. You do realize at the time that he came to Denver, Ocho, he was a four-time league MVP. Absolutely. He was already a five or six-time first-team All-Pro quarterback. No quarterback has more first-team All-Pros, more MVPs than Peyton Manning. But you would know that by being around him and talking to him. And then you watch him in the meeting rooms, and you watch him on the practice field, and now you understand.

24:18Shannon Sharpe:He demands that you play at a level, and you've got to match him. you've got to Tom Brady forces you to match that because people watch him and they see him if he's working that hard nothing less is accepted to me absolutely everybody everybody leads differently but everybody can't be a great leader leader you got corporals and you got lieutenants and you got one star and two star and three star and four star they don't do five star generals anymore they've only been five of those in the history of what we have of the military. Right. But, and Russ handled it like I thought he would. Yeah, he's hurt.

25:02Shannon Sharpe:Man, you're taking my job and I got to stand up. Y 'all do realize, how many touchdowns have Russ thrown for? Damn near 400? He's got to be well over three. Came in the league in 2013. So this is his 14th season. So he came in in 2012. He's with RG3 and Andrew Luck. So he's got 353 touchdowns. how many guys you know got 353 touchdowns stand on the sideline and hold a clipboard with the headset in the air those guys start until they don't want to start until it's time for them to lead the league look at the guys that have thrown for 300 plus touchdowns none of them never got demoted like that you look at Matt Ryan, you look at Ben Roethlisberger you look at Phillip Rivers, John Elway Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady Drew Brees, that's eight I can fake up off the top of my head.

25:57Shannon Sharpe:Johnny Unitas. Now, obviously, Johnny ended up going, you know, he didn't do very well when he left Indy and ended up going to the Chargers. But it hurts. And you got to put on a brave face. You do. Yeah. Because a lot of times people want to see you crack. And Russ is not wired like that. Russ is going to remain positive. and I'm happy I'm very happy with the way he's handled this whole situation because deep down inside he knew Ocho you go to a place and they draft a quarterback you already know what time it is the clock is ticking Ocho when Tom went to Tampa did they take a quarterback in the first round no

26:46and so

26:47Shannon Sharpe:they were just like hey tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick and you got to fight because you know they want to play him that's not that he's not a decoration that's not something that you just prop up no they wanted to play him it's not like a situation like alex smith had they drafted patrick mahomes he knew patrick he said i got one year there's nothing i can do to keep them from playing patrick mahomes next year my job is to try to keep them from playing his ass this year yeah yeah and they went 11 and five boom they lost to get they lost to the Titans had a what 18 to 3 lead they ended up losing um but we'll see what Jackson dark got going up against the Chargers who played as well as anybody in the NFL so uh three and oh I like go ahead go ahead I just I'm still stuck I know we talk about Jackson dark we talk about Russell Wilson the Giants and all that but I'm still stuck on that goddamn quote you led with now that's one I'm not I'm having heard before I I heard my grandma, my grandfather say all type of stuff.

27:51But I'm using that. The devil you know is sometimes better. When you don't. Ooh, who were you cooking for? I can't wait to add this to the pamphlet.

28:00Shannon Sharpe:God damn out the goal. So, I mean, boy, it's not an easy road that the Giants have to go. And I don't know if you were with us Sunday. We went over the schedule. So Sunday they play the Giants. Excuse me, the Chargers. And then they're on the road October 5th at New Orleans. They're home on a short week Thursday against the Eagles. Then they go at Denver, at Philly, home to the Niners, at Chicago, home to the Packers, at Detroit, at New England, bye week. Hey, but that's tough, yeah. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance. Sometimes production shoots, interviews, or something I've got to travel for on a short notice, like the time when I had the last minute trip to Denver.

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32:32Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Micah Parsons doesn't expect any booze when he returns to Dallas on Sunday. I think they're going to give me a good round of applause. There's no hard feelings there. at least for me, it's going to be a great atmosphere. When asked about his feelings towards Jerry Jones, not a welcome back tribute. There are a lot of things I consider disrespectful throughout the process, but I wouldn't say the tribute. It's one of them. I would say, I just think there's hard feelings maybe there for them, but for me, I'm happy where I'm at, and we got a good football team, so I guess I can receive my tribute when I win.

33:06Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, we both returned, played against our former team. we invested so much into obviously you tell me all the time i was just there for like a weekend at baltimore but uh that's it did you go back did you did you play in since did you play cincinnati uh no no i did i didn't i didn't because you have to think once i left cincinnati i only had that one year after that right right right yeah now i was done i was done well they gave me love i mean i when i went back to denver i went back to denver the second year because first year ocho we beat them in the first round of the playoffs in the wild card game so we beat them and then the following year we went back crowd cheered every time I caught the ball they introduced the offense crowd cheered I go back then I go back to Denver and we go to Baltimore gave me love both times so yes sir uh I I think the thing is is that for me uh there was really no hostility one way or of there's really no protracted contracts and going back and forth asking for a trade x y and z uh but i told you when he laid on that table i said oh that ain't a good look though i told you yeah the funny thing back especially when it comes to the dallas cowboys cowboys fan base there's no hostility towards michael parson because you know everything was out of control everything's out of control so everything that was said and and and and somewhat of an almost an unfair way that you don't think an owner would say he can maybe think it but actually Jerry Jones is one of the few owners who gets away with saying the things that other owners think and he said it out loud he didn't care so if anything when he does come back to goddamn Dallas there's no reason for the fans to do him at all if anybody should be booed it's you know who yeah for me I was look I was in Denver for 10 years the first time Mojo and come back And, you know, we had won, you know, back-to-back Super Bowls.

35:06Shannon Sharpe:I was, you know, went to seven consecutive Pro Bowls, all pro and all that stuff, and went to one Pro Bowl in Baltimore. But I think the thing is that the fans really appreciated how hard I worked. I didn't complain. I just came to work, showed up, did my job, and I left. I had only got along great with my teammates. And I think Michael got along. Look, I don't know the inner and outs of it. I don't know. but I just think the thing is the last, like the last four, two or three months, Ocho, with this contract talk. And you know, look, at the end of the day, those fans, they're Cowboys fans. Now you might find a sprinkle here or there of Michael Parsons fans, but those are Cowboys fans.

35:45Shannon Sharpe:More times than not, you know how fans are. Fans are going to side with the team. That's just the way it is. Well, listen, you also have some that have common sense and understand how things are working. Some understand the business, some don't. Some only worry about who is a part of my Dallas Cowboy team. That's all they care about. But then some understand the business and understand how it works and able to separate the two. Being a fan and understanding how the team works, especially when they come down to contract. Sometimes they should be used to it anyway. Used to it anyway when it comes to their star players because they've had to deal with it for so many years.

36:22Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I think it's just funny going back. standing on the opposite side staring across over there for so for 10 years Ocho I stood on this side looking across the field now I'm over I'm across the field staring back across the field and the same thing when I went to Baltimore it's different you go in different way you know all of a sudden now I'm taking a bus to the stadium I'm used to driving myself to the stadium so it's it's it's gonna be different it's gonna be different and it's so new I mean he's like only four years in Dallas I mean most people when you leave and go back and play another team it's years and years you know Peyton when Tom played New England think about how long Tom Tom had played 20 seasons in New England he goes back you know first year and he plays so we get that but it's like, man, four years, that's really, damn, that's quick.

37:22Shannon Sharpe:But sometimes, Ocho, that's out of your control. We don't always get the control. And look, as an athlete, we try to control what we can control. And that's what we're good at, Ocho, because, look, I knew if I worked my tail off, okay, good things are going to happen because I can control how hard I work. When it comes to things like what happened with Micah, that was out of his control. absolutely and matter of fact when it comes to things that we can control the one thing that we can control we can control our production and what we do and the work we put in most of the time if you put the work in the results are going to show up on Sundays two things we can't control is we can't control injuries and you can't control getting older that's it you want to do as much as you can in between that time and trying to ensure you don't get hurt but once you hit like 30 and 31 on the game start to play the game listen once you hit 30 and 31 32 33 they start playing the games oh well your targets start start decreasing and they start you know we need to talk to you about your production and man come on but i mean i mean tributes normally mad that's for like the best of the best i mean you won champions you know, they like that you're a defensive player of the year.

38:49Shannon Sharpe:You spend some time. I mean after four years and look and this is not a knock on Michael Michael is a phenomenal player. But you know, when Emmett came back, Emmett came back. He was all time lead Russia. You know what I'm saying? If it wasn't MVP and it was one three Super Bowls Tom going back to New England pain going back to Indy. It's it's levels to a video tribute. Everybody's not going to get a video tribute even if If you play 10 years, 15 years of the place. I mean, it all depends on who you were and what you did. If you're a 15-year special teams player, you're probably not. Now, maybe if you're Matthew Slater, you'll probably get one.

39:30Shannon Sharpe:If you're Adam Vinatieri, you'll probably get one. But look, if I'm Mike, I ain't worried about that. Like Mike said, look, we win the game. That's my tribute, and I'm coming. You know he coming, Ocho. You know. Yeah, he coming. He'd been working on a move. He like, because when we're there, let me tell you what you did. When you was going against your guys in practice, you know if this was a real game, what would happen? Because I'm saying, bro, you do realize this practice. But if I actually played you in a real situation. Right, right, right, right. Bro, I'm cooking, y 'all. Oh, yeah. For real.

40:12Shannon Sharpe:Oh, yeah. And listen, you know one thing about it, especially in practice. Now, them boys made me better, huh? I remember all my DBs name by hard. Remember Jeff Burr? Yeah, I do. Yeah. I thought you went to know the name, right? Yeah. Jeff Burr, Leon Hall, Torrey James. Torrey played with me. Torrey came from LAJ. He played with me and Denver. Yeah. Man, listen. J-Joe. Jonathan Joseph. It's similar. Pac-Man. But in practice? Oh, man. Listen, I got mine. They got me some time, too. But I know who won most of the matchups. Hey, boy, with Pac-Man, me and Pac-Man in practice? Oh, my God. But look.

40:59You talk about work? But we was out there working. And I want feedback. I'm out there working like I'm a seven-round pick, unk. Man, Marvin and Hugh, they had to throw me out of practice. why in the hell is you taking the scout team reps, man? Get out the people's way. Because I knew I wanted to go against my number ones. I'm not going to get no real work unless I'm going against my number ones. They had, let me tell you how bad it was. I know I've been playing around a lot, but when it came time to play football, I might have been fun and talking trash and doing all that entertainment. When it came to that game and being a student of the game, I told you, but hey, preseason, They talk about how many snaps we going to play.

41:41Shit. You going to call a timeout to get me out the game? But that was so much fun to me, man. Just looking at Marvin's face when all the ones came out, all the ones that come out, and I stand on the field acting like there's something wrong with me until the second team come in and force Marvin to call a timeout. Man, listen, I'm here to play football, man. I ain't worried about no injuries. Don't try to protect me from getting hurt. I'm here to play football. I went through two weeks of training camp, two days, and now you're telling me I only get to play one series, one draft? No, sir.

42:17Shannon Sharpe:In a situation like that, Mike is going to say, this is why I was worth$47 million. This game. This is why the Packers gave up two first-rounders and Kenny Clark and gave me$47 million. This is why. Yeah. You see what I did today? This is why. Make it a statement. Absolutely. As a matter of fact, and speaking of 47 million, he going to show that all season long, especially as they continue to work him in, allow him to get more reps, allow him to get his legs up under him. You know, once he gets in football shape, because he missed so much time, you know, missing training camp. Yo, hell, we only, we only what, in week four?

42:58Week four. Yeah.

43:00Shannon Sharpe:Week four. And, you know, hey, it's going to take him a while. I mean, he's a couple of weeks from being in tip-top football shape. Oh, yeah. Right now, you know, he's a specialist right now. But, hey, him and Rashawn Gary pretty soon, because Rashawn Gary is tied for the lead, league, and sack. Pretty soon they're going to start sliding. We got four and a half, huh? Rashawn got four and a half, huh? You see what happened when he come on nightcap? See what I'm saying? That ain't nothing but God. That ain't nothing but God's work. Everybody come on nightcap, have success. What Melissa Jefferson left with in Tokyo?

43:34Two what? Three? Oh, three of them? Oh, the four-by-one. Three goals. Everybody come on nightcap having success. Okay.

43:45Shannon Sharpe:It ain't a coincidence. It is not. You need to be in bed. You need to be in bed. You should be in bed. Hey, Titus. Titus. Titus. This joke, make me pay the heart. Hey, let me get Titus for a week. No. No. No, you don't know how to handle it. You ain't been around, dog. You don't know how to handle it. Come on. I done had a dog caught up now. I'm good. I'm good with him. He different. No, he good. He good. I'm a dog. I'm a dog. Not that kind of dog. I'm saying I'm a dog. I become one with the animal. They used to call me the dog whisperer back in 92. No, Ocho. You are. I just want to take him to the dog park.

44:38Oh, he intact. I know he intact. He intact. What's that man?

44:45Shannon Sharpe:Yes. So you're not supposed to have him. Oh, you got him. You can't have him there. Oh, he spaded? Neutered. OK, OK. Spaded is what female does. Hey, I'm going to get the homies some action. Nah, hell nah. Boy, people sue you. No, no, no. I mean, I got it. It's a lady I know. She got a poodle. That's a he. Yeah, you'll be in the border with no. Yeah. Tell him, say, nah. Say, we good. We better stay here with dad.

45:23Shannon Sharpe:The Falcons fire wide receiver coach Ike Hilliard one day after being routed by the NFC rivals, Carolina Panthers. Offensive game coordinator TJ Yates will assume – TJ Yates, that's the quarterback? Wasn't he a quarterback for the Texans? Will assume Hilliard's duties per the team. Offensive coordinator Zach Robinson will call plays from the sideline moving forward. Robinson called plays from the coach's booth since he joined the team in 2024. Hey, I'm confused. is that supposed to be a distraction of some sort what's the point of what's the point of firing the receiver coach i don't know the quarterback played terrible yeah some some i mean that that doesn't make no any sense to me especially this early in the season i think that name's not for me yeah i i i don't get that i don't i don't know maybe that was something internally that was going on.

46:28But the final... But I don't know.

46:28Shannon Sharpe:If you're shaking things up, I don't understand how to put... So what? Guys running the wrong routes? I mean, what was going on? They got into an argument? The coordinator and the position coach or the head coach and the position coach got into it? I agree with you, Ocho. This don't seem right to me. It might have been something like that. It might have been something like that. It had to be some issues going on where somebody might have been arguing or other things. Because, I mean, find anybody week three? Come on now. Come on now. The Panthers blew out the Falcons 30-0. Michael Penix Jr. had his worst game of his career, young career, throwing two interceptions.

47:06Shannon Sharpe:He hasn't thrown a touchdown to a receiver or a tight end this season. In fact, he has only one touchdown pass this season. That's the B. John Robinson. Ochoa, I mean, look, we've all had receiver coaches. I'm just trying to figure out how much can a receiver coach be responsible for the offense. He's not. He's not. He's not responsible for that. Absolutely not. He has one job to do. That's the coach receivers. Make sure you get from point A to point B as fast as you can and catch the goddamn ball. That's it. That's all he can do. And make sure you're well prepared knowing the game plan and what you got to do.

47:49yeah I'm shocked that's why that's why I know it had to be something else something must have went on that sideline that or maybe behind closed doors where it didn't sit well and they let brother but brother here you go the the great I just mentioned Ike the other night too when we

48:06Shannon Sharpe:talked about the Gator game yeah I'm gonna tell you this there's gonna be a lot of other people fired that quarterback don't start playing better oh yeah I hear you might have been the first to go, but let that quarterback play better. Quarterback coach. The offensive coordinator. Matter of fact, now you got me... Mr. Blank going... Now you got me curious. I want to know why he was fired. I'm finna be nosy. I'm finna be nosy. Because we thought the Falcons were going to be good. I'm not saying... Not for a second, Ocho. I thought they were going to the Super Bowl, but I thought they would be better than what they were last year.

48:50Shannon Sharpe:You look at the weapons that they got. They got Mooney and they got Drake London. Drake London, Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts. Ray McLeod. Ray McLeod. They got B. John Robinson. They got Algier. They got a nice little squad offensively. Good weapons. With those weaponry, you can't get shut out with those weaponry. Nah. But if your quarterback played like some stir fry, you can't. Yeah. He played bad. Late with the – bro, you know you – bro, how you going to be on this side, looking at this half of the field, and all of a sudden come back and throw to the flat blind? Nah, you can't do that. That's going the other way.

49:33That's going the other way every time. If anything, you read one and two. If one and two ain't there, then you go to the flat right away. because if you take any more time than that, the corner, they was in two. The corner, he dragged.

49:47Shannon Sharpe:He ain't going nowhere anyway. He ain't got nothing to threaten him deep. So why would he go deep? Exactly. Exactly. It sure wasn't.

49:58Shannon Sharpe:So, yeah, I don't get this one. This move befuddles me because I've never heard, like I said, maybe something happened. we don't know all the intricacies of what transpired on something had to have happened ain't no way you believe that you got shut out 30 to nothing and that responsibility falls on the receivers coach the receivers coach hey i might have cut mike i might have cussed somebody out now he might have cussed out the office coordinator okay now maybe maybe maybe that makes sense Mm-hmm. Probably taking a fourth place. Even if he did curse him out, after two weeks, I mean, after three weeks, I mean, this is where we are right now?

50:42Yeah.

50:43Shannon Sharpe:So now you're saying we're in a panic mode. Yeah. You set us up for panic when we shouldn't be panicked. You should be calm. Yeah. You're right. Shoot, I'm nosy. I just text Ray Ray. What happened, boy? I'm nosy. Yeah, this is a – this is a – I'm surprised by this. I didn't think Atlanta was a Super Bowl contending team, but I did think they would be much better than what they showed last year. And it's not a good look, Ocho, when you got it, you know, your starter. In week three, you already had to put him on the – you had to say, no, we've seen enough. Yeah. That's not good. No. and you let you let him go out on the sword too on yeah for sure you let him go out on the sword especially once you've already made that move that you are a quarterback of the future there's no reason that kurt cousins should be going in that game no none at all unless not kurt could not cousin believe that he got a chance to get back in there basically and he's a good and And Curt is a good sport for actually going in the game.

51:59Shannon Sharpe:He is. I mean, hey, first cousins ain't trying to give him no money back. Why am I going to get conduct detrimental by not going back into the game? And they take some of my money. I'm going to get all this money. You know how much cousins is made? Oh, yeah. I ain't getting y 'all none of that back. 330 is some change? Yeah, I ain't giving y 'all none of that back. I'm going to get all that. And as a matter of fact, y 'all still owe me about 10-12 next year. Going to get that too. Might get some more.

52:31Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, this makes no sense, Ochoa. Look, like I said, we didn't think the Falcons were going to be world beater, but we saw some of the promise that they showed last year at the end of the season when Penix came in. Guys were getting the ball and, you know, so much, you know, talking to Kyle, he seemed very excited. Excited, yeah. As a matter of fact, when we had the tour, well, that was last year. from Raheem. We talked to Raheem. But we still thought that they were going to be good. We thought they were going to be really good this year. Penix was talking about, hey, he's looking for Kyle. We got Drake London.

53:06Shannon Sharpe:We got Mooney. We got Ray Ray. We got some weapons. We got Bijan, who's a dual threat. He can catch it. We can run it. XYZ, Algier, good power back. This move makes no sense to me. At all.

53:28Shannon Sharpe:Connor's running back, James Connor, will undergo surgery on his foot and will miss the rest of the 2025 season. How big of a loss is this, Ocho? I mean, it's a big loss. It's a big loss. Marvin Harrison Jr. didn't have a very, very good game. You gotta have a problem with the drops. You got the yips right now, Ocho. Now you got Connor out. He's gone. He's your bell cow. Now, that put more pressure on Kyler Murray. More pressure on Kyler Murray. Knowing Marvin Harrison Jr., he going to bounce back. He going to bounce back. All it is, Uncle, you have games like this. Hell, I've had... Okay, I haven't had a game like this, but I've had games where I've dropped the ball before.

54:09And all it is, going back to practice, looking the ball in, starting over like you're a little kid. Looking the ball in every time. Find the laces. Catch the laces. Don't take your ass out the ball. Make sure you got it. secure it and then just go. Yeah. And get yourself back.

54:25Shannon Sharpe:You think he's trying to do too much, Ocho? Yeah, that's it. Taking his eyes off the ball. That's all it was. And it's easy, too, Unk. The most difficult passes to catch are the ones that's wide open. Mm-hmm. Where you wide open, man. You take your eyes off the ball trying to make a play before you secure it. That's all. He's wide open and he know the guy going to be coming at a high rate of speed. So he's like, man, I make one move and you made the move and the ball's on the ground. so it don't matter if you made him miss. Right. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, James Carter, he's their bell cow. I think he went to the Pro Bowl last year, runs hard, can catch the ball out of the backfield, but he's really their bell cow running back.

55:06Shannon Sharpe:I don't know who his backup is, but it puts more emphasis on, as you mentioned, on Kyler and that passing game. Right.

55:17Shannon Sharpe:It's tough. I mean, you hate to see a guy, you know, because, you know, we've been there. We know we put in to make sure we try to stay as healthy as we possibly can once the season starts. And here we are, you know, three weeks into the season and we're done for the year. Yeah. That's crazy. Done for the year. Man, that's only – that's happened. I mean, I broke my collarbone in week four and I was done for the year and I was miserable. Damn. Damn. Boy, you done broke everything. Jesus. Fractured my eye socket and missed the last three games of the season. Dislocated my elbow, missed four games of the season.

56:00Shannon Sharpe:Sprained a knee ligament. Hey, listen. If I played with you, wouldn't none of that happen. If we was on the same team, you wouldn't have had no injuries. Your shoulders would have been straight. Your knees, your ankles, all that. The ankles, you had to keep getting them ankles shot up. Wouldn't have been no problem. you would have been scraped man my shoulders man I just caught a pass and rest your soul Dave Doerrson I caught it separated my shoulder when I fell on this one and then he fell on top of this one and separated the other one so both of them I would have popped the boy right back in place for you on the sideline pop the back take this torrid off put this harness on and you good to go nah I ain't wearing no harness But I just, that was like the last preseason game.

56:52Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. And then I missed practice. Shot the shoulders up that Sunday. Yeah. Played as long as I could. And then made a, I'm trying to think, I cracked back on somebody. Oh, no, no. I forgot you took it. Ronnie Lott. Yep. That thing went numb. It was a wrap. That thing was hanging off the bone. And you hit that helmet like this? Oh, I couldn't do that. I couldn't even do that. Hey, I was like, oh. Come get me. Come get me. I said, what's Greek? Steve Antonopoulos was I trying to, what is it, Sharpie? I said, Greek, I'm done. He said, can you rate? Mm-mm.

57:36Shannon Sharpe:He's like, Sharpie, can you rate? I said, no. I'm going to tell you, before you even ask, the answer is no. Right. Can you squeeze my hand? No. can you no so Ocho I'm just going ahead and Greek I'm going to prepare you for everything that you're going to ask me I can't do it the answer is already no I can't do it yeah can you can you push my hands out Ocho you know push my hands out like this can you push your hands in I can't do none of that yeah so I just yeah I just I just feel bad because man you put so much you put so much time in that yo then I yeah I fractured my orbital bone, Ocho, and so they for a week, they had my eye closed, sold my eye lid shut, had to sit up.

58:28Shannon Sharpe:Ah, man, it was, oof. Damn. And you're going to talk about I need to be, man, please. Oh, what happened? No, you're talking about, man, you got to live. You got to do some adventure. I ain't trying to have nothing else broke at my age. You do. The stuff we going to do, the stuff that we going to do that's venturous is not stuff that's going to cause you to re-injure anything that's happened to you. I'm going to be doing all the dangerous stuff. You're just going to be there for moral support. Okay. That's all? Can I can I can I like video can I watch from here? Nah, nah. We're supposed to be like Tom and Jerry, man.

59:10You got to be out in the field with me.

59:14Shannon Sharpe:okay I can see Jordan nah nah Jordan the cameraman I know that's why I'ma see Jordan and Jordan can and Jordan can send it back to me I can be watching like yeah that's a good shot there Jordan keep it on there it's so much stuff it's so much stuff that is untouched I'm telling you when it comes to creating content that we can do that nobody else is doing we can go we can go hang gliding we go deep sea diving when do we have time to do that? in the off season okay Nightcap the adventures of Uncle Ocho man we have about 100, 200 ,000 people watching man I'm telling you go go kart racing go shark diving mm-mm a few days after coach prime said the jags aren't using travis hunter enough liam cole said travis hunter role on offense won't expand take a listen to what he had to say ocho yeah he's one right now one position on offense and one position on defense so um that doesn't really fully change it's just more the next guy having to go and adjust um to to go play some z which is what happened in the game.

1:00:33Shannon Sharpe:So, no, I don't think it changes much. And that's not going to change until after the season where he'll spread his wings a little bit on offensive. Yeah, I think it's fair right now to say, hey, dude, go learn Z and X and 12 and this and that. It's like, man, we've got to make sure he can really go and execute it. We're asking him to do first and foremost, which is play F and play corner. So I think as we go and as he goes, I've got to believe that it will continue to do this. So that's why you see more Parker when DeHomme goes down. So more opportunities for Parker. I know he was very transparent with us about the two drops.

1:01:05Shannon Sharpe:You said he had a great practice last week. Expectations for his usage. Yeah, I think, you know, I have not lost any confidence in Parker by any means. You know, stuff happens. It's not obviously something that we're excited about in the moment. But, you know, he took full, he takes a lot of responsibility and accountability. He works his tail off every single day. Like I said, he literally had his best week of practice last week as a Jag since we've been here. So, you know, there's a lot of confidence. really the message to him is dude like we got to just move forward man

1:01:36Shannon Sharpe:I agree yeah I mean me I always thought Ocho he would be better served playing defense and then have packages for him on offense I mean but everybody everybody want the managers hey we're gonna just throw him in there and let him play bro this ain't college I don't care what anybody says. I don't care how many snaps he played and how great he was. This is the best of the best. There's a reason why they stopped doing that in the 60s. There's a reason. So to ask this man and say, I'm not concerned. There have been a lot of guys that can play both ways, but can you play them at an elite level? Because that's what it comes down to.

1:02:19Shannon Sharpe:You see Troy Brown played offensive defense. You saw Julian Edelman play it in spurts, but can you play it at the level? Can you hold your own against Jamar Chase and then can you go beat Pat Sertan on a consistent basis? Can you beat Stingley on a consistent basis? Can you beat Sauce Garner on a consistent basis? Can you D up Jetta? Can you D up Neighbors? Brian Thomas Jr. Chase, can you do that? So this notion about, oh, he can do that, he can do that, I want to see him do it at an elite level on both sides of the ball. And the coach is saying, there'll be a time for that. Let the guy get used to the system.

1:02:58He's not there yet. Obviously, this is the best thing. But everybody's talking about they misusing him. They're not misusing him. I think they're just bringing him along slowly, not just throwing him out there to the fire, throwing him out there to the wolves, allowing him to get acclimated, learn everything, so you don't have to think. Because you play your best. When he was at Colorado, he already knew what to do. That's why he was playing his best. I don't have to think. I can just go play and react. So once he gets to that point over there in Jacksonville, then they'll add a little bit more on his plate.

1:03:30Okay, we know he got this. Okay, he got F. Okay, now we can teach him Z. Add a little bit more on his plate. Okay, boom. He got Z. Now we can add X. Then defensively, okay, he's a little bit more. He's a little comfortable now. Boom, maybe we can put him in on first and second downs instead of waiting until third. Just a little stuff. Just bring him along slow. So I think it's kind of smart, smart them the way they're using them right now. I think there'll be certain situations, certain circumstances where they will need that advantage, that mismatch that he does create on both sides of the ball.

1:04:05Shannon Sharpe:I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, look, you know, when you was a kid and you're like, give me some a note, eat what's on your plate. Let him eat what is on his plate. Let him get this position. Let him master that. And then as he starts to master that, I don't care what anybody says. Pro offenses are more complicated than college offenses. Pro defenses are more complicated than college defenses. That's just the way it is. And the athletes are better. Just better. I don't care. Look, we believe the SEC and the Big Ten is as close to NFL as we get. Guess what? There are a lot of guys in the SEC and the Big Ten that don't make it in the NFL.

1:04:42Shannon Sharpe:All those guys that come out there on Sunday, they made it. and there are a lot of guys that played in the conferences that didn't make it so you're talking about the best of the best and that's the thing Ocho it's not enough for him to just say I played both sides of the football people want to see he won the Heisman Trophy because he was elite on both sides of the ball if he's not elite on both sides of the ball Ocho what are we doing? Let's be all the way real chat. What are we doing? Hmm

1:05:17Shannon Sharpe:the thing about an SUV, Ocho, that's what made the SUV so popular. Ocho, I can hire my kids in it and I can pull up to a, I can go, hey, I can be in the carpool line or I can go to a black tie dinner. I can do both. I can drive in the summertime. Hey, I can be in Miami and drive my SUV. But guess what? I can go to Minnesota and also do it. So if it doesn't give me that kind of value, what are we doing, Ocho? Right. But another thing, too, also, you took him so high, right? You traded, Ocho, you traded up to get him. Right? So we're going in week four. Now, I understand it's a long season. But what you add on to that plate, we need to keep on adding and see that a little bit more week to week.

1:06:18Shannon Sharpe:And I think that's what they're going to do, Ocho. I mean, I think he played, this was the first time that he played more defense than he played offense. But I think he was still around 60 plays.

1:06:32Shannon Sharpe:We just haven't seen him get in the end zone. We haven't seen him get any interceptions, which we routinely saw at Colorado. Man, this is the NFL. y 'all realize this the best of the best this is the top zero zero zero zero point one percent that's what that is bro i i i don't think i don't think people get it i i don't i think the thing is that people just people actually thought ocho he was going to just walk in there and do what in nfl what he did at colorado and then if you say ocho like man ocho say i got 11 years of this thing, man. That thing ain't that easy. I got 14. I said, man, it's not that easy.

1:07:15Shannon Sharpe:Oh, y 'all hating. No, we're just telling you what it's going to take to play at that level. Time didn't even play both ways. And Time was as talented as anybody that's ever stepped foot in the NFL. Greatest of all time. I mean, they had a package. Time did what he did defensively, and then he would come in with a package. Now, he played a little bit more when I think Michael got hurt one year or the number two receiver got hurt, and so he played more. Same thing with Champ. Same thing with Champ and Washington. Yes. Same way. Yep. But for me personally, I don't think they're misusing Trav. I think they're building him up slowly and slowly and putting more and more on his plate.

1:08:04Shannon Sharpe:And the more he can eat, the more he can digest, and we'll just keep going like that until we build it out. We don't need to build this overnight. We don't need to try to have him learn X, Y, X, Z, F. We don't need him to do all that. Hey, you got the slot. Oh, you playing outside. You playing inside. You playing dime. We don't need to do all that, Ojo. There will be a time that it will be second nature. But I'm sure there's a lot going on in this play. But it's hard because to get good at something, you do it all the time. Over and over. It's repetition. Yeah. It's repetition. And the funny thing.

1:08:46Shannon Sharpe:So he go from a standing split to now he's in a backpedal. And the funny thing, he won't be the Travis Hunter we used to see him that we saw in Colorado. He won't be that into the NFL until he knows everything. He's still thinking. He's still thinking. I know it's football at the end of the day, but he's still thinking. It's your rookie year. You're going into week four. You're still thinking. So they're putting you in advantageous positions where you don't have to think. You just got to play. That's why you're playing. That's why your game is so small right now. So all you have to do is just play and let your God-given ability and what you've learned so far take over.

1:09:25Yes. I mean, give him a year or two.

1:09:30Shannon Sharpe:Let's see where he's at halfway through the season. Let's see where he's at at the end of the season. Let's see where he's at in year two, year three. And it's so funny. But in order for this to make sense, he's going to have to be lead on both levels. Because you took him so high, you took him with the number two pick in the draft. Number two pick in the draft is supposed to be franchise altering. Yeah, and they can't. No matter what position it is, he's supposed to be franchise altering. But they can't use him in that position yet. because franchise altering is usually held for the quarterback position outside of elite skilled players at most of the time it's a receiver.

1:10:07Receiver, DB, DBs come around every so often, but receiver, quarterback, or running back. Franchise altering. But his plate isn't full enough for him to be franchise altering right now. Correct. It's not. Yeah.

1:10:27Shannon Sharpe:It's hard. I mean, I don't envy him. I understand that he wants to do things that nobody's ever done, and it's been a long time since we got to have a guy that this talented. We saw Champ Bailey do it. Miles Jack did it as a running back and a linebacker at UCLA. But it ain't easy. It ain't easy to be elite because with the number two pick, you're supposed to be elite, and he wants to be elite on both sides of the football. Now, you know, you ask time, time says, look, had I devoted what I devoted to being a wide receiver like I devoted to DB? Ain't no question in my mind. I get a gold jacket as a wide receiver.

1:11:09Shannon Sharpe:And I believe him. I believe him. Because he was just so gifted. God just gave that man so much ability. but people see a lot of times Ocho when God gives somebody ability they make it seem like they don't work time worked time studied but see you're like man God no no yes God blessed him but the greatest are when God blessed you and you're the hardest worker you get a Tom Brady you get a Deion Sanders you get a Kobe Bryant you get a Michael Jordan you get a LeBron James you get a Griffey Jr. that's what you get. You get a Barry Bonds you get that. That's what you get when you take a Tiger Woods Serena Serena Williams that's what you get

1:12:02Shannon Sharpe:when God kiss you with God given ability and work ethic. You're dangerous boy you're dangerous and the funny thing about it is he already got the work ethic too. Not only do we have the work ethic, but he goddamn believe he can do it. He believe he can do it. That's part of it. I was just going to say that. That's part of it. Once you believe you can do something, oh, boy, it's up then.

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