In short
“Best of Part 2” sports talk and debate, centered on Daryl Morey’s comments about the 2020 NBA “bubble” title (whether it deserves an asterisk), plus NBA/Steph Curry analysis, and additional NFL/league hot takes (players’ motivation, draft/targets, injuries, and game-day distractions).
Guest backgrounds
No single guest is featured; the episode is a compilation of hosts’ segments. Speakers include “Ocho” and “Joe” (sports pundits) discussing NBA and NFL topics, with references to Daryl Morey and other athletes.
Key claims
The bubble championship shouldn’t be treated as an asterisk; the pandemic removed travel/normal life stress but also created unique hardship. LeBron James’ Lakers win is framed as the reason the bubble debate persists. Steph’s greatness is attributed to “green light” confidence, conditioning, constant running, and creating separation.
Notable examples
Steph’s shot vs Gonzaga; players dropping game-changing catches (Oliver Gibson story; Ocho’s 1999 dropped TD); Jalen Ramsey wearing a $5 bill; Jonathan Kaminga possibly choosing Sacramento; Trent Williams frustrated by Nick Bosa in practice.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODaryl Morey's Comments on the Lakers' 2020 Title
0:00 to 0:34
Discussing Daryl Morey's controversial remarks about the Lakers' championship legitimacy.
“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”
Daryl Morey's Comments on the Lakers' 2020 Title
2:04 to 2:58
Discussing Daryl Morey's controversial remarks about the Lakers' championship legitimacy.
“Daryl Morey also felt the need to talk about the Lakers 2020 title today.”
The Asterisk Debate and NBA Bubbles
2:58 to 4:04
Debating whether the NBA bubble title deserves an asterisk and its implications.
“That was 99 99, yeah 99, so is an asterisk by that?”
Life Inside the Bubble
4:04 to 5:00
Exploring the challenges and experiences of players during the pandemic bubble.
“planning, altitude environments, things of that sort.”
Criticism of LeBron James
5:00 to 7:22
Analyzing the scrutiny faced by LeBron James and his legacy in the NBA.
“But I'm saying I don't think it should be an asterisk.”
Longevity and Legacy of NBA Players
7:22 to 8:30
Discussing the longevity of NBA players like LeBron and the impact of injuries.
“Anybody, any other superstar had a won that championship, Joe Johnson, you and I both know it'd have been legit.”
The Future of Basketball and Its Stars
8:30 to 9:50
Speculating on the future of basketball after LeBron and other stars retire.
“I thought everything Jordan took was serious.”
The Legacy of a Unique Player
14:00 to 15:10
Discussion about a player's impact on the game and fan sentiments.
“and then, you know, eventually KD, eventually Steph, we'll have new guys and then what?”
Kaminga's Future and Career Choices
17:24 to 19:59
Analysis of Jonathan Kaminga's potential move to the Sacramento Kings.
“Just to let you people know, we're talking to one of the goats here.”
Jalen Ramsey's Unique Motivation
19:59 to 22:20
Discussion on Jalen Ramsey's unusual training motivation at camp.
“I don't think it's beneficial for the Warriors anyway.”
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Trent Williams and Nick Bosa's Training Camp Rivalry
22:20 to 26:08
Overview of competition between Trent Williams and Nick Bosa during practice.
“I think I about to say$100 ,000,$200 ,000.”
Trends in the NFL Draft and Player Pressure
26:08 to 28:00
Discussion on player expectations and market dynamics in NFL drafts.
“Hey, but you got one over there, Jared Burse.”
Discussion on Player Departures
28:00 to 28:52
The hosts discuss recent player movements and changes in teams.
“Look, it's not going to be as easy to port it out of state because they lost a lot of guys.”
Humor in Show Business
29:12 to 31:04
Hosts share their experiences and insights on humor in the entertainment industry.
“Products for tobacco consumers 21 years of age or older.”
The Impact of Social Media on Athletes
32:28 to 37:44
The hosts discuss the influence of social media and devices on athletes during games.
“Hey, in this new era, it's a lot different, fellas.”
Memorable Moments in Sports
37:45 to 42:04
The hosts share their personal experiences of pivotal moments in their careers.
“it's too much they gotta want it they gotta want it that's not it You got to really want it to be able to lock in and lock in during these times.”
Reflecting on Missed Opportunities
42:04 to 44:35
Hear a heartfelt story about the emotional impact of a dropped ball during a game.
“right through him Ocho Ocho That's the worst fear of them, boy.”
Steph's Historic NCAA Performance
44:35 to 46:06
Discussing Steph Curry's iconic moments in college basketball and his unique shooting style.
“And he's like, I'm not saying that I couldn't have figured it out at a later date and time.”
Analyzing Steph's Game
46:06 to 48:11
Exploring what makes Steph Curry such a formidable player in the NBA.
“end of the first quarter, end of the half, end of the shot clock.”
Analyzing Steph's Game
49:47 to 50:32
Exploring what makes Steph Curry such a formidable player in the NBA.
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Analyzing Steph's Game
50:36 to 51:09
Exploring what makes Steph Curry such a formidable player in the NBA.
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Transcript
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2:10Shannon Sharpe:Daryl Morey also felt the need to talk about the Lakers 2020 title today. Morey said, had the Rockets won the title, I absolutely would have celebrated as legitimate, knowing the immense effort and resilience required. Yet everyone speaking around the league probably agrees that it doesn't truly hold up as a genuine championship. Perhaps the lasting legacy of the NBA bubble is that the NBA should be proud of its leadership at both the beginning and the end of the pandemic. Even through the champion will forever be marked by an asterisk. Daryl Moore, you should be the last one to talk. After what you almost blew up by saying what you said about China?
2:49Shannon Sharpe:And you got your butt up out of there? Now, see, everybody talks about, well it's an asterisk because you didn't win it. Now you just said I absolutely would have celebrated as legitimate knowing the immense effort and resilience that it took to do it but now because you didn't win it it's an asterisk by it so is there an asterisk by the strikes short year? What year? That was 99 99, yeah 99, so is an asterisk by that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah what about 2012? 2012 was a strike short. Didn't y 'all, wasn't y 'all short in 2012, Joe?
3:32Chad Johnson:Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he don't ask you about that one.
3:38Chad Johnson:Yeah, he put that ass by that bubble. Because he didn't win. Absolutely. But I honestly think, I didn't think it was an advantage to anybody playing in the bubble. You know what I mean? Like, I wouldn't put no ass straight by it. Right. You know, because nobody, no cheap. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying no... I don't know if it was harder than either. I don't feel like... Because you took away a lot of the elements of traveling, planning, altitude environments, things of that sort. Like, we all right here...
4:08Shannon Sharpe:What about you couldn't go nowhere?
4:10Chad Johnson:Yeah, I mean, I know that's hard. I knew that was hard. You know, I'm saying...
4:15Shannon Sharpe:I'll tell you what I'm going to do, Joe. I'm going to put you in your house for 100 days, and all you can do is go to your backyard and come home. You can't do nothing else.
4:23Chad Johnson:How much money I'm making? Whatever the playoffs pay you. Okay. So, I'm saying just the playoffs. Yeah, because that's what they get. They don't get no extra money they get with the playoffs. All right. Yeah. Hey, look. I wasn't locked. Obviously, you know, I played in CBT. It wasn't nowhere near as being locked in for 90 days or however many days those guys were locked in. I played in the TBT, and it was a quarantine environment. and we was locked in a hotel for like seven, about 10 days. So I know the challenges that the dudes had to go through. But I'm saying I don't think it should be an asterisk.
5:02Chad Johnson:Like, I think everybody was. No, absolutely not. Yeah, no. Think about the pandemic itself, Joe.
5:07Shannon Sharpe:People are losing their mind. They couldn't go nowhere, Ocho. No. You couldn't go sit inside a restaurant, or you couldn't go to a club, or you couldn't do. Now, I don't know how it was in some places, but I happened to be in Cali at the time. And when I say Cali shut it down, Cali shut it down. Now, I know Georgia shut it down for a week. Florida shut it down for 10 days. Georgia wasn't
5:31Chad Johnson:shut down, but they were getting two of that out here. You hear me? Go ahead, Ocho. Listen, it was easy for them, especially during that time. It was easy for the people that don't be outside. I didn't go anywhere anyway. So when the pandemic happened, And listen, I chose that time to catch up on some stuff. Netflix, movies I hadn't seen. You know, I would tweet, what should I watch? Hell, I ain't see The Wire. You know, was I playing during that time? No, I think I might have been playing. I forgot what year it was. I had never seen The Wire, huh? The people told me to watch The Wire. I watched Ozark.
6:06I caught up on it. But Ozark, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I caught up on all types of stuff on Netflix. That was good. I had a bunch of cigars with me. You know, I had my little coffee machine. Hell, I ain't need to go nowhere. Everything I needed was right here. And then I got my game.
6:19Shannon Sharpe:Hey, but look, though.
6:21Chad Johnson:Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead. Do y 'all think that the COVID times, it really changes? Because think about this. You know, you had your homeboys or your friends talking about they want to come over. You don't know where they done been. You're like, hold on. Nope. Nah, bro. You can't come over here with all that. You know what I mean? And then, since it's been over, a lot of us are still kind of.
6:45Shannon Sharpe:Hey, how you doing? bro just pound it right yeah yeah even here now
6:53Chad Johnson:to this day I'm like that yeah
6:56Shannon Sharpe:Darryl Morris said yeah everyone I speak to around the league privately agreed that it truly doesn't hold up as a genuine championship so did you ask people around the league what they thought about what you said about China ask them what they genuinely think about how you almost blew it up right right oh You know why? Let me tell you why I didn't. Because LeBron James won it. Anybody, any other superstar had a won that championship, Joe Johnson, you and I both know it'd have been legit. It was because LeBron James won it. It ain't legit. You think that's why a lot of people put that at you? Yeah.
7:36Shannon Sharpe:Yes! Absolutely! Michael, Kobe, Larry, Magic, Steph, anybody else and that's what i i asked to be i said okay y 'all say well because you said that lebron came to la to be a 6 '8 kevin hart he came to be a move he came to win an oscar as opposed to a larry o 'brien trophy okay he comes out here he plays he wins now so what's what's the what's the debate had anybody else done that i say now y 'all say that's what he did I say now, oh man, Jordan was past this prime. Jordan, I say, let me ask you a question. Had Jordan won the NBA title, would y 'all say he won seven or would he have just won six?
8:26Shannon Sharpe:Y 'all said he had a game seven. But because he didn't win, oh, he wasn't even trying to win. Yes, he was. I thought everything Jordan took was serious. The reason why they did it like this is because LeBron won. had anybody else won they're not calling it a bubble championship they're not calling it saying an asterisk needs to be added they wouldn't do it even Darryl Murray is trying to diminish the man I guarantee you take it you need to worry about Finley that's what you need to do I tell you what pull another season like you had this year and see what happened to you he the owner though what they gonna do to him He's a general manager.
9:10He ain't no owner. Josh Harris is the owner. Okay, okay, okay.
9:14Shannon Sharpe:You think they'll find him? Have another... Boy, you see that money he done gave out? It's a Mr. Playhouse? Right.
9:22Chad Johnson:Somebody gonna have to go owe Joe.
9:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah! They still owe Joe Ellenby damn near$300 million. Damn! They owe Gabe Tyrese Max a Max deal. They got Paul George on a Max deal. Maxie, nice. If Paul knee or ankle, whatever it is. If he come back healthy, they're going to be all right. Knees don't get healthy as you get older.
9:44Chad Johnson:I think he just had another procedure too. Damn. Yeah. Hey, I wish I could give all them boys my limbs and legs, man, and arms and Achilles and knees. I just, damn, man. I hate seeing people get injured, man. It sucks, boy.
10:02Shannon Sharpe:Who asked him this? Hold on. Who asked him this? Everybody just feel like they're really talking to boo today, Joe. Everybody was really talking to boo today, Ocho. Yeah. Bro, it's 2025. They just got the new package. Amazon just got$77 billion,$76 billion. Amazon got a package. NBC got a package. ESPN got a package. They about to make money at the yin-yang. And you talking about 2025? Yeah. Why?
10:38yeah
10:39Shannon Sharpe:I promise you nobody in the history of the game has received more criticism than LeBron James and it's crazy because he no matter what you thought about him I think he's going to be good he's exceeded all expectations no matter what you thought he might be he's exceeded everything people say ain't nobody going to break Kareem's record because first of all you're not going to play long enough and you're not going to be consistent enough. He did that. Man, ain't nobody going to get no 19 all-star games. He got 21. Man, ain't nobody going to be no all-NBA all those times. He got 21. 13 first teams.
11:22Shannon Sharpe:But I just don't get it. He go out.
11:26Chad Johnson:Man, listen. Ocho, y 'all know when you've been at the top for so long. Oh, yeah. They got to start picking at you, bro. they got to start picking. It's just kind of a part of it. And that's just kind of what it seems like because, like you said, I agree with you. He's exceeded expectations. I'm talking about from since the time he came into the NBA. Yes. At what, 18, 19 years old, man. Yep. All the expectations they put on him, he exceeded it. That's crazy. There's not a whole lot of 18-year-olds get handed the keys to a franchise.
12:06Shannon Sharpe:18. 18. No college, no dominant male. I mean, I guess the dominant male figures would be his coach, Coach Drew. They don't hand the keys to a franchise, to an 18-year-old. That's what he did. That's what they gave him. That's crazy. Yeah. That's what they gave him. I mean, it's almost like, well, my favorite player didn't play that long. He should just go, why? I guarantee you if your favorite player could play at that level that he's playing at he'd have stayed absolutely Kobe's body broke down on him he had the shoulder tore his labrum and he had the Achilles injury and he was just he had given it all he got and you know what Kobe was that Mercedes that had 500 ,000 miles on it and it just pulled side of the road and it just stopped damn you don't think Jordan if Jordan could have still played at that elite level you don't think he just continue to play of course we all would playing right now of course they're mad at the man that's taking care of his body for this long Lord is blessed and beyond blessed and he's able to play at an elite level even in year 22 that man averaged 24 8 and 8 in year 22 everybody else I don't even think anybody did anybody average 22 double figures in year 22 Well, considering that only Vince Carter played the 22 seasons.
13:38Shannon Sharpe:Oh, that's crazy. I mean, think about that, man. And people just try to find things to nitpick and to pick him apart. And I'll just never understand why. Why? I mean, he's going to be gone. and then, you know, eventually KD, eventually Steph, we'll have new guys and then what? That's when he'll be missed the most, though. Somebody else will take his place, huh? Somebody else that they're going to love to hate. I don't know. There's never been anybody before or since him that's been like this. Nobody. I defy you to find it. Even if you look at the bad boy Pistons. Nope, they didn't dislike them like they dislike this man.
14:32Right. I agree.
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18:24Shannon Sharpe:Jonathan Kaminga reportedly prefers to play for the Sacramento Kings instead of the Golden State Warriors. Kaminga believes the Warriors have stunted and strung his career long for four seasons. Joe, do you agree? It doesn't seem like he's going to accept their, I think, what is it, their offer?
18:43Chad Johnson:Yeah, talking about the Warriors' offer? yeah nah I don't think he's gonna accept the Warriors off I think he's actually ready to move on but yeah I can see him going to Sacramento but they would have to do like a sign and trade though right correct correct yeah I think if the Warriors are looking to improve I'm not sure what I'm not sure what Sacramento has that they will want but I don't know either they gonna have to trade Kamingo they gonna have to trade Kamingo man they can't yeah he done
19:13Shannon Sharpe:he fed up he done yeah I'm not so sure that he trusts him anymore.
19:19Chad Johnson:Right.
19:19Shannon Sharpe:There you go. There you go. Why is he limiting himself to one team? Huh? Why is he limiting himself to just one team? Why Sacramento? Why not anywhere else? Hey, maybe he likes that style of play. I don't think there's really been a... Ain't no groundswell. I don't think it's... Go ahead, Joe.
19:42Chad Johnson:I don't think it's really been a huge market for him, Ocho, for whatever reason. You know, it's been a little weird for him, but he's definitely a talent who can help a team, obviously, you know, win a title, compete for one. The Sacramento thing, I don't know where they came from. Maybe they got the money to spend, but I don't think going back to Golden State is in his near future.
20:05Shannon Sharpe:I don't think it's beneficial for the Warriors anyway. because, you know, the things that Curry said, you know. Yeah, I think he's over that situation.
20:17Chad Johnson:Damn. Yes. And I think it kind of happened when they got Jimmy Butler.
20:24Shannon Sharpe:Go ahead. Yeah, yes. That kind of thing came out. When they got Jimmy Butler, yeah. Yeah.
20:34Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, Steelers cornerback Jalen Ramsey is wearing a$5 bill on his shoulder pads at training camp. Every time I go out there, I'm trying to make some money. Come on now. Oh, he got it on the flap. What's that about? Yeah, he tried to say he tried to make money. He got it on the pads. I'm trying to get this bread. Yeah, I like that. I like that. Whatever you got to do. Whatever you got to do to motivate yourself. Whatever you got to do to stay locked in. Right. I like it. This is the second time he's gotten traded because he came from the Rams. He spent two years in Miami, and now he's a... Well, what?
21:11Shannon Sharpe:Damn. Because he started in Jacksonville. Yeah. Did a couple years in Jacksonville, went to the Rams. They had a good-ass defense in Jacksonville, boy. Yeah. They were loaded. And is it a contract year for him? Uh-uh. He just signed one. Just signed one, yeah. They just extended him last year. Mm-hmm. There wasn't nothing wrong with him. I don't understand why they did. So why he went...
21:32Chad Johnson:So what?
21:34Shannon Sharpe:No, he said he had... He tried to make money when he out there. That's what he tried to say. He tried to make money while he out there.
21:39Chad Johnson:Oh, okay. All right. That's something you would have done, Ojo, when you were playing? Oh, nah. I ain't putting out no$5. I would have had a dollar on there. Not no five. Yeah, yeah. You know, you saw where I tried to bribe that referee. You noticed I tried to bribe him with a dollar bidder, right? Anything more than that? Oh, did they fine you for that? Yeah, they found me a little$20 ,000. It's cool. It was worth it. Iconic moment. NFL can't take a joke.
22:12Shannon Sharpe:No. I said they should have slapped him. I told him they should have slapped him with a bottle. Oh, yeah. What did I say? I think I about to say$100 ,000,$200 ,000. Unk went off. Unk went off for me when he was on Fox, huh? I was on CBS. Yeah, it was so funny, man. Hey, Joe, Unk went off. where it was funny. When I saw it, I just laughed. I just laughed. I said, you know what? I'm going to make sure I do something else the following week, too. I like all the dances. I like all the other stuff. The river dance and I like the sombrero. Yeah. He stayed on some bull jive, Joe.
22:55Shannon Sharpe:Cam Ward told The Athletic there's a target on his back. I don't think I'm being welcomed in the league with open arms. I was the first pick I'm blessed to be on that but at the end of the day there's a target on my back there's a target on everyone's back in the league but I'm trying to prove myself to my teammates yep you're absolutely right they want to see why you the first pick just like we go out there to DB that was the first round pick or he won the Thorpe award or he won the buckets or whatever he won I need to see why you won that award bro
23:27Chad Johnson:absolutely oh yeah they're going to try you now Yeah, there's no target. For one, obviously, when you think about first round picks, he might be the first. This might be the first time in the history of the NFL, the first round pick slipped up under the radar. Yeah, because all attention is going to the fifth round pick. If you think about it, you have slipped right up under the radar as far as media coverage and all the hoopla that is always surrounded the first pick of the draft. yeah because of the Shadour effect so I'm looking forward to what Cam Ward does this season you're gonna be fine cause you got some pieces of there to work with too you got some pieces
24:05Shannon Sharpe:to work with so Joe that's the same thing with Bronny James we ain't talking about not one first round draft pick all they talking about is number 55 Bronny James
24:13Chad Johnson:and you know Cam Ward that market he's in that ain't a huge market you know what I mean no no no yeah that's another reason why he's finding Cleveland
24:23Shannon Sharpe:Cleveland that name right yeah uh sanders james yeah i mean they talk more they talk more about uh the 55th pick in the draft than they did the top two pick and i think the wizards got one and the hawks got the other yeah man you ain't got no target on your back bro that's everybody that come in everybody that's a first round draft pick um you a first round draft pick people need to and you're the number one overall draft pick, but hey, they're going to check your ID. Every game you go in, they're checking your ID. Make sure you're old enough to be in the club. Every time. They're going to make sure you're old enough to be in the club.
25:09Shannon Sharpe:49ers veteran left tackle. Trent showed frustration during practice because Nick Bosa kept beating him. Nick Bosa is beating Trent a lot of time. Trent yesterday had a big reaction to a move of the ball period that was dominated by Nick Bosa. The offense was stopped by Nick Bosa. Trent came off the field exacerbated. Like he banged his thigh. Just was frustrated. I think that's great for the team. I think that's going to push Trent to get better and be better throughout training camp. And he's going to be Trent Williams by the time September rolls around. I hate to use iron sharpened irons, but it's definitely what's happening in camp.
25:43Shannon Sharpe:Williams is 37 and recently said that he wants to play until his 40s.
25:50Hey, listen. If you can be in camp consistently, especially by somebody that's going to frustrate you, well, who better than Nick Bosa to get yourself where you got to get to? Because you're not going to be facing Nick Bosa's. 16 Nick Bosa's. Nah, absolutely not. Excuse me, 17 now, Ocho.
26:08Shannon Sharpe:They got 17 games. There ain't going to be 17 Nick Bosa's. Hey, but you got one over there, Jared Burse. He ain't no easy victory. Yeah, you're right. Hey, he's a little undersized. He's a little undersized, a little quicker. Yeah, but hey. Don't let that other side fool you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He can go now. He can go. And I think the Cardinals got one of the Eagles defensive linemen. Oh, one number seven last year. Right? No, not Redick. No, not Redick. He was a single digit, though. He was a single digit, if I'm not mistaken. You think so? Who was it? Ash, who was that D-lineman that went to...
27:13Yeah, Joshua. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a single DJ, right, Ash? Was he? I could have swore yeah he was a single digit I could have swore he was
27:26Shannon Sharpe:because he's the one that said he could have easily been the Super Bowl MVP MVP yeah so they got hey they got some guys that can get off the rock on you now
27:39Shannon Sharpe:but you know Trent's coming to hey Trent's coming out I think Trent was Nick last year he came he's coming off an injury yeah he had a few injuries he was out along with McCaffrey was out Mm-hmm. They had a couple of guys out. They lost the wide receiver. IU. IU, Brett. Yep. Had a couple of DBs. A fanger. Look, it's not going to be as easy to port it out of state because they lost a lot of guys. Drake Greenlaw was late coming back. He's gone now. The DB, he ended up going to the Colts. Ooh. not Ward yeah wait the Davis Ward left yep yep he was nice that's why Andy paid him he was nice
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32:27Shannon Sharpe:I see that mofo put his name on Twitter search at halftime to see what they were saying. Joe, they misbehaving like this, Joe.
32:38Chad Johnson:Hey, in this new era, it's a lot different, fellas. Halftime, he ain't lying. Now, I'm sure a lot of these teams going to put these stipulations in where these guys can't be using their phone at halftime. But a lot of these cats, man, they on their phones at halftime checking to see what's going on. It's almost like a habit. It's a part of who they are and what they do. They can't help it. You sit in your locker, boom. First thing you do, pick up your phone, you go to scrolling.
33:05Shannon Sharpe:Yeah.
33:09Shannon Sharpe:Hey, like in practice, like they get a break. Yeah. Guys go get on the phone then, you know what I'm saying? You know, call somebody. But I can't imagine. Ocho, can you imagine somebody doing that at halftime of a game? Did that ever happen? I can't even talk trash because my crazy ass I tweeted on the sideline in the middle of the game in the middle of the preseason game I wouldn't agree with that but preseason but I'm talking about they talking about regular season nah nah I wouldn't do nothing like that but I think we were playing Philly in the preseason and I got hit real good I'm talking about in the real good to the point where I had to go and let everybody know I was okay.
33:54The tweet might still be up.
33:57Shannon Sharpe:Well, if you didn't take it down, yeah, it's still up. It's still up there. We were playing the Eagles in the preseason, and I forgot the dude's name. White fella. He's really good. War 55. I can't remember his name, but he caught me on the slant. I wanted to say, bruh, it's preseason, but I had to sit there for a little minute before I got up. I was a little woozy.
34:19Chad Johnson:That's what's going on now. Wow. that's why they don't win can you imagine what it's like in high school and college
34:32Shannon Sharpe:and now guys getting paid in college in high school too we're in different times college is a professional sport now it is and you see what they're doing they're trying to limit you see they're trying to limit the NIL though you see that right you know why they're trying to limit it because the people that get the money who they look like.
34:56Chad Johnson:Hey, listen, hold on. While you talking, they say they were going to start doing a little back pay on their... I went and checked in on it, but they're only going back like 10 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:06Shannon Sharpe:You too far go, Joe. And you say, Joe, you trying to get a little back pay on?
35:11Chad Johnson:Yeah. I'm just trying to see what's going on with Joe. I ain't trying to ruffle no... I'm just trying to see what's going on. I got you.
35:17Shannon Sharpe:I know they ain't going back no damn near 40 years because that wouldn't be... That wouldn't be for me I went to school at 86, so I know I ain't getting nothing. And Savannah State ain't had no money to pay nobody. They ain't got no money to pay nobody now. So I know they ain't getting no back pay. But I don't get this. Like I say, guys, when you're here, you're here. Now, when you home, okay, be there. Do what you want to do. You want to tweet. You want to do whatever you want to do. But I'm confused. At the half of a game, you checking what people saying on Twitter? to IG, whatever the case may be?
35:54Chad Johnson:Really? You thinking you probably too locked in to even care about that at that point. That's what I would be thinking. That's why our phones are such a distraction nowadays. You got to think. When I was in college and y 'all are a little older than me, but when I was in college, we didn't have cell phones, man.
36:14Shannon Sharpe:Man, look here.
36:15Chad Johnson:We didn't have cell phones.
36:17Shannon Sharpe:The bills were so expensive. Huh?
36:20Chad Johnson:You didn't have no cell phones? No, man. You're going to get you a calling card. Call whoever you want to call. That's how y 'all talking. You talk that card up, you're going to get you a nothing.
36:29Shannon Sharpe:Or you get somebody else calling card. I had a cell phone, Joe. I had a little Razor, I think. In 2000? Yeah, I had a little phone, Joe. When I got in the lead,
36:44Chad Johnson:people had two ways. Nobody had cell phones in it. I had a cell phone, Joe. I don't know what
36:52Shannon Sharpe:but at that point but see the thing it was different I mean it was different people I mean they took that stuff serious man and I think the thing is now Joe is that like a lot of the veterans have been like ushered out and so they're getting younger and younger and they you know and so all this stuff that are doing now but yeah that would be the man that would be ooh goodness gracious times have changed it is times have changed and you couldn't even go ahead Joe
37:27Chad Johnson:could y 'all could y 'all even fathom like the things that you could get into as a kid bro in this time and era to where you got all these devices whether it's phones iPads it's just too much man there's so many distractions nowadays it's hard to keep a lot of these dudes focused man
37:43Shannon Sharpe:it is it is it's too much they gotta want it they gotta want it that's not it You got to really want it to be able to lock in and lock in during these times. You got to want it. Yeah. You do. You do. You got to, okay, prioritize what's what's important, what's really important and what you must have.
38:10Shannon Sharpe:And the thing is, who am I checking in on? They know where I'm at. I'm at a game. And what you doing? Playing the game. Okay, you call me on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Ocho. You call me at 10 o 'clock, 10.30 in the morning. Man, what you doing? Practice. I'm watching film. I'm studying. What are you doing? You should, first of all, why you calling me? You should be at work too. I never understood that, Ocho. I don't. I didn't. I didn't understand why guys would get out of meeting and they go get on the phone. bro you know what your unless somebody i get it okay your wife and your girlfriend pregnant expected kids sick i get that but y 'all go first of all if you go get on the phone like this here you ain't checking in and seeing somebody's sick no i already know hey what time it is you know she probably left a little chick at the house so you know you got to check it and make she good in between meetings?
39:17Please. I see, man. Joe,
39:22Shannon Sharpe:it's different, Joe. I mean, think about it. Think about when you came in and when you left. Now, think about the times. Ten years from now, what it's going to be like.
39:37Chad Johnson:The NBA going to join it. They're going to join in on all the fun. All this stuff these dudes doing, they're going to have
39:43Shannon Sharpe:activities for postgame. They interview guys on the side like for the halftime because sometimes they talking to the managers and things like that. They'll find a way to capitalize. You're right, Joe. They'll find a way to capitalize. Steph Curry on the shot that changed his life. It's the shot against Gonzaga. I really felt like that was the difference maker. Not to say I wouldn't have been able to figure it out had we lost, but that was a big moment. Ocho, what was the play that changed your life? The play that changed my life, especially from a receiver standpoint, was dropping the ball. It wasn't even catching the ball.
40:20I'll never forget. Rest in peace. Oliver Gibson. We were playing the Indianapolis Colts. I think it might have been my rookie year. Maybe my second year. But to keep a drive going, we went for it on fourth down. To keep a drive going, to go down and maybe tie the game or actually win the game, I dropped the goddamn slam on fourth down. And here I am crying. man, getting just, you know, Oliver Gibson came up to me, grabbed me by my shirt. It's a picture of it too. I posted it on Twitter when he passed away. Grabbed me up by my shirt. Man, if you don't stop that crime, because you're going to have another opportunity to win us a game.
40:57Changed everything, huh? But I got on that jug machine and just, I was different after that, from that point. I hadn't even become Chad Johnson yet. I was a nobody at that point. Yep. After dropping that game, I realized I just cost us a game. Yep. Cost us a game. And I always told myself from that point on, I'll either be one of the reasons why we're in a game or we win games from that point on. And that's exactly what happened.
41:26Shannon Sharpe:Yep. The same thing happened to me. Yeah. In 1999, I dropped a touchdown that would have given us home field advantage throughout the playoffs. Mm-hmm. Damn. I still think about that play. Ocho I made it so sweet had me a O Ocho in tight I motion out linebacker with me like niggas say I just ate it on him Ocho I'm thinking today I'm already thinking oh I'm finna do this I'm finna do that it went right through your hands right through him right through him Ocho Ocho That's the worst fear of them, boy. Dropping the ball. In the South End zone, man. I'm never forgetting. I came to the sideline, students will say, hey, you'll get it back.
42:19Shannon Sharpe:You'll get it back. I'm like, you know the opportunity ain't going to come. Because it wasn't like I was the number one receiver. They're going to be feeding me balls. Right, right, right. Pause. They're going to be feeding me. They're going to be throwing me no balls like that. Pause. Okay. Okay. They're going to be throwing me football. They wasn't feeding me footballs like that. There you go, man.
42:47Shannon Sharpe:So I knew that opportunity wasn't going to come back that day. It might come back at a later date and time, but it wasn't coming back that day. And I remember, Ocho, and so I dropped that play, and then at Wednesday's practice, man, I was catching everything. thing. I mean, I was taking stuff off my shoe tops. I was making stuff one handed. And Dan Reeves said, I mean, he's like, I sure wish you'd have caught that one on Sunday like this.
43:25Sometimes, say, listen, sometimes you relax at the wrong times. Yep. Anytime I drop the ball, it's because I relax.
43:34Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, you know what I did? I didn't extend. I did this like the ball and I yeah damn and so the ball just like
43:48Shannon Sharpe:damn oh boy that hurt boy that hurt that hurt that hurt I remember going home crying I called my brother he said man what's wrong I said man Spank you waited till you got home I was crying in the middle of the field yeah I couldn't let him see I couldn't let him see me cry because they saw Somebody might have said something. I'd have had a swing on somebody on the field. Oh, you got jokes? Don't. But listen. Man, I was in that car. Man, I was in that car crying. Like, man. As a matter of fact, Oja had a four-door blazer. I'll never forget. Had a four-door blazer.
44:23Boy. Damn. You know me, boy. I let them tears fly, boy. I don't care where I'm at.
44:32Shannon Sharpe:Mm-hmm. Boy, that thing hurt. That hurt. And I agree with Steph. And he's like, I'm not saying that I couldn't have figured it out at a later date and time. But I believe that was the moment that he's like, hold on. We're Davidson. That's Gonzaga. And they, you know, they always in the playoffs. They always wanted to, you know. And when he took them down. Look, I had never seen anybody shoot the ball like that. Right. Not from that kind of distance. Right. not just pull up like that. He was, you know, like he's 6 '2". Like he's an average. He's not 6 '5", 6 '4", 6 '5". And he just letting it go.
45:15Shannon Sharpe:I mean, he dancing with folks. His shorts like three sides, like they made for his dad. You know what I'm saying? And he was just letting it fly.
45:26Shannon Sharpe:Damn. He definitely left his mark, man. Davidson. I wonder with so many three-point shooters that have come along, what separated Steph and made him as good as he is? What made him so great? They gave him the green light to do it. You see, prior to Steph, only a handful. Think about it, Ocho. Everybody's shooting threes now. That was a, how many times that's a bad, Steph, there's no shot that Steph takes that people actually believe is a bad shot. Bad shot, right. People were shooting some of the shots that Steph shoot routinely end of the first quarter, end of the half, end of the shot clock.
46:12Shannon Sharpe:Steph will shoot that shot with 15, 16 seconds on the shot clock. But somebody had to give him the confidence saying that's okay. Mark Jackson was that guy. Now he shot that in college, but come to the NBA. Guys weren't shooting no shots like Steph. I mean, Reggie was a catch and shoot. Ray was a little was catch and shoot, but he could. Steph can dance and launch it from the timeline. Yeah. You literally have to pick Steph up at half court or he'll let it go. Right. And you think because with his ability to be able to create separation, create his own shot, it makes it that much more easier for him?
46:54Yes, absolutely.
46:57Shannon Sharpe:And plus the thing is, if you hug up on it because he can have it, he can put it on the floor and get by you. Get by you, yeah. he can get all the way to the rim. So now, and then he runs constantly. He doesn't get tired because the first thing, if you get tired, your shot goes, you short. He's in, he's probably the best conditioned athlete because nobody's running as much as he does. Oh, he run a lot. He run a lot. And he just let it fly. That'd be confusing. When I think about basketball and you know, you're playing the Warriors and as much as Steph run, like me, you know how when they play defense and the DB say listen, they in a bunch, we gonna ban you if you come in your air, you just pick him up and I forget man just zone so you don't got to run all over the place after him.
47:46Shannon Sharpe:Okay and guess what happens, now when they back pick that zone, guess what, step wide open they gonna run you they gonna run you off so many screens oh yeah, that sucks and the thing is, and when you miss a shot You would think because they're such a small team. They are small, yeah. That they're one of the better rebounding teams. So when they get these long rebounds off the carom, Steph automatically goes to reset. So now you play a zone, okay? He go reset to one of those corners. He'll get it and he'll come all the way across in the corner and then he'll come up. That's crazy. but some giving you confidence like to to shoot shoot it son no words we're not gonna take you out shoot the ball hey nobody else got the green head like he does huh oh they like our guys got it now but he made it okay now you see everybody shooting threes don't show they're shooting damn near 70 a game between the two teams not they they are not as efficient as he is.
48:55Shannon Sharpe:No, but if you think about it, at this point in time, Buddy Hill is ahead of where Steph Curry was with threes made. Anthony Edwards, yes! Because nobody was shooting him. They're shooting him now. Jason Tatum, look how many threes he shoots a game. Look how many Ant-Man shoots a game. Buddy Hill, even though Buddy wasn't a star, Buddy was coming and letting the three go. Everybody letting the three go now. It's the three. And everybody think this Steph Curry. And you watch the AAU kids, every age group. Man, they shoot. They shoot them from three. They throw in the ball. They can't shoot it because they so small.
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50:40Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook. Each week, we talk to someone in show business and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, Adam Scott, Danny McBride, Ben Stiller, and a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. To honor our country on its 250th birthday, This can of Copenhagen goes out to those defending the free American soil that our tobacco has taken root in for over two centuries and counting.
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Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Best of the NBA, breaking down the iconic shot that changed Stephen Curry’s career and cemented his legacy. The duo also discusses Daryl Moray hatin' on the Lakers 2020 Championship plus much more!
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