BEST OF Part 2: Unc & Ocho react to Scary Terry Demanding Out, Micah, Jerry Beef unrepairable?! | Nightcap

19:35hey god damn but that's a tough one listen honestly i wouldn't want i wouldn't want to

19:40Shannon Sharpe:be an owner i wouldn't want to be him he's about to be 26th and working joshua palmer yeah yeah i wouldn't want to be a gym when it comes to like fringe fringe situations like this we can go either way i want to be a gym where it comes to no-brainers oh that's easy oh yeah yeah Yeah, but no, no, no. You got to make tough decisions. Yeah, I don't like the tough decisions like this. Because you can't keep everybody. You got to decide, okay, do I get off this guy? And then one time you get off somebody, like you let somebody go, and then they go gangbusters, kind of like what Derrick Henry did. They're like, what the hell were you thinking about?

20:17Shannon Sharpe:You let Derrick Henry go, bro. But also, listen. Giants, Giants, what are you thinking about? You let Saquon go? Yeah, but listen. TLC, what the hell are you thinking? You let A.J. Brown go? Yeah, but this is the thing. You have to think about it. The timing and the places where these individuals went was very important. Yes. Very important. Saquon left a disgruntled, a not-so-good offense in New York and went to the Philadelphia Eagles with the best offensive line. True. Tennessee, I'm not sure what you were thinking or what you were looking at. Because Derrick Henry didn't – Derrick Henry going to be Derrick Henry wherever he go.

20:55Okay.

20:55Shannon Sharpe:So, ah. That's tough. Yeah, we wish you to – Cook, get your money, baby. Do what you got. Maybe 13, 14, 15, maybe in that range, but that 19, 20. 13, 5. 13, 5. He only 25. He only 25. Hey, Josh Allen. Josh Allen, man, you need to interfere. Intervene. Intervene, please. Intervene. Listen, you know how much power Josh got? Do you understand? I don't think people understand. Man, do you know how much power the quarterback has in situations like this? Man, Josh, go out there right now, man. What's the owner name? I forgot his name.

21:39Gula. Gula. Gula, yeah. His daughter's really good at tennis, huh?

21:43Shannon Sharpe:Yes. He's really good at tennis. You know, Mr. Gula, man, Josh, go out there, man. Listen, Mr. Gula, I don't want any more distractions. I don't want any more distractions. Brother Cook, brother Cook is a very important part of our offense. He takes some of the pressure off me. Some of the pressure off my shoulders. Let's find a way to get this. Nah, bro. I gave you$330 million. I need to put more pressure on your shoulders. So get out of my office.

22:17Shannon Sharpe:Nah. Hell nah. As a matter of fact, I'm for the tradie.

22:26Shannon Sharpe:For$300 million. for$330 million what I pay you and$250 million guaranteed, Ocho? Nah, bro, I ain't trying to take no pressure off your shoulder. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to do that, Josh.

22:42Hey, that's a good one. Hey, that's a good one. I forgot he paid Josh all that goddamn money. I'm tripping.

22:51Shannon Sharpe:Oh, shoot. And this is Micah and Jerry. They've kind of been going back and forth over the weekend. Micah posted a lengthy message on social media on Friday, concluding with a statement that he no longer wants to play for the Cowboys. Yes, I wanted to be there. I did everything I could to show that I wanted to be a Cowboy and wear the star on my helmet. I wanted to play in front of the best fans in sports and make America's team, Mer's team, once again. Again, the team, my pops and I grew up cheering for way up in Harrisburg, PA. He is from Harrisburg, Ocho. You know, normally Harrisburg, normally that's Steelers or Eagles country.

23:30Shannon Sharpe:A lot of people like the Steelers up in Harrisburg. But, hey, if you're in Pennsylvania and you root for the Eagles, I mean, you got two teams. But if you root for the Eagles, I ain't going to hold that against you. If you root for the Steelers, I'm not going to hold that against you. But think about it. He is in Steelers, Eagle territory, and he and his pops are Cowboys fans. Unfortunately, I no longer want to be here. I no longer want to be held to a closed-door negotiation without my agent present. I no longer want shots taken at me for getting injured while laying it on the line for the organization I fans, my teammates.

24:02Shannon Sharpe:I no longer want narratives created and spread to the media about me. I knew I would be leaving money on the table, but again, I was okay with that. Again, radio silence is my extension. In March, I met with Mr. Jones to talk about leadership. Somehow the conversation turned into him talking about contract with me. Yes, I engaged back and forth in regards to what I wanted from my contract, but at no point did I believe this was supposed to be a form of negotiation. And I informed Mr. Jones after the major would reach out thinking we'd get things done. I stayed quiet, but again, after repeated shots at myself and all these narratives, I made a tough decision.

24:41Shannon Sharpe:I no longer want to play for the Cowboys. My trade request has been submitted to Stephen Jones personally. Ocho, take off. What's your take on this? Listen, I just don't understand. It's one thing for owners to think a certain way, to not really value the people, the players that lay it all on the line for you, but you have a certain way of conducting yourself. You already have a history of things that are frowned upon when it comes to us anyway. way way back i don't i don't need to bring that up but but to continue to show us during the kaepernick era time as well the one owner that came out and said all our players will be standing line yeah we're gonna hold a line if you play for my team and just to see how he conducts business and the way he does business despite being the most profitable franchise of all sports with the way he did cd the way he did execu elliott the way he did dac now the way he's doing Micah Parsons.

25:45This time, even going a little further line and talking about him in a way like, well, even if we do pay him, he might not be available like he was last year. You don't say stuff like that as the owner when he's busting his ass for you and your team. Obviously, do what his job is and what you pay him to do. Injuries are a part of a sport, but to hear your owner, the one who signed the check to say it and to say how he really feels publicly to the world that's the kind of stuff like uh it gets out it slips out because somebody recorded it somebody stuck a conversation but he just like proudly he blurted it out letting you know how he feels about you how could you want to line up and put that hat on how could you want to wear

26:29Shannon Sharpe:that star outside of just doing it for the money see if we talk about ocho that's why i like to have somebody because he might have told the agent that, but the agent never would have come back and told me or you that. Exactly. Why you never want to be a part of, why you never want to be a part of negotiations because the real them comes out and the agent never discloses that. Right. You will be upset. Everybody will be upset on how they feel about you because when it comes to business, they are shrewd. Right. This is what they do. This is not what you do. Right. I don't have a problem. I think Bobby Wagner was one of the first ones that says, you know, I no longer have an agent.

27:04Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to negotiate my own contract. I think Sherm does that. I think we saw Lamar and his mom negotiate their own contract. I don't have a problem with that. If you says I'm going to be my own representative, I'm going to engage in these talks with whomever, be it Jerry, Steven, or whomever is doing this contract negotiations. I'm cool with that. But if I tell you I have representation, don't try to isolate me. Right. And back, back, though, you know, buddy, buddy. That's why I have representation because this is what they do. I'm giving him a percentage of the total contract because I want him to negotiate on my behalf.

27:42Shannon Sharpe:Right. So that's why Jerry had him going all these places. Hey, Michael, come on, fly on the plane. Because he's trying to. No, no, no, no. Now, if Michael says, you know what, Jerry, you're right. I can do this on my own. And then that way I don't have to give David, his agent. I won't have to give him 2%, 3 % or whatever the case may be, whatever he charges. I just keep that for myself. But that's not what Michael said. Michael says, hey, I have an agent. He's like, I thought this was the start of the negotiation. Hey, David Muguleta is looking forward to hearing from you. I told him we had a great conversation.

28:18Shannon Sharpe:He'll take it from here. Jerry thought they had a done deal. No. No. No, no. Micah, not stupid. No. Hey, but this is the part I don't understand. This goes for everybody also in the chat. You have certain players. You have special players that come along. I call them no-brainers. I call them players that are no-brainers. When they come in, when they get drafted, and you watch them play year to year, it's a no-brainer when it's time to pay them. Right. Micah Parsons is a no-brainer. The Jerome Cases are no-brainers. The Justin Jeffersons are no-brainers. Amon Ross St. Brown. I'm just using receivers for perspective.

28:59Those are no brainers. You know, there's no reason to play a game when it comes to a player of that magnitude. Even if they're, whatever the books may say, like stuff like that. Well, we know what? We have one player on defense. It's our superstar. The ball, the ball should have been rolling out. The season started another three weeks. What are we talking? Why are we still talking about contract with the no brainer? Yeah.

29:24Shannon Sharpe:Because think about it. What it cost to bingers. It cost him an extra six million dollars a year or next to twenty four million dollars over four years because you waited a year. It probably cost you an extra thirty million dollars in guarantees because you waited an extra year. So you have to pay a tax. You have to pay a penalty if you're late. Let me ask you a question. If you lay on your rent, you pay a penalty. If you lay, if you got something at the court and you're late, if you owe Uncle Sam, there is a penalty for being late. if you negotiate my contract late, there is a penalty for said service.

30:01Shannon Sharpe:Now, with all that being said, Jerry didn't have to say any of that, but Jerry's just going to show you. See, now Jerry, he's got to let you know who's in charge. Yeah. Because it is reported that as the representative has been trying to reach out, Jerry ain't returned no calls. On purpose. Absolutely. On purpose. absolutely to prove a point what point he's trying to prove i have no idea i run this show i'm gonna show i'm gonna pay i'll pay you when i get ready like you do me like you do me over here 500 me you basically told me i'm gonna pay you when i get ready oh no i ain't say i ain't say that i mean no no your actions did i'm gonna take care of you baby i'm not jerry i don't i don't like that comparison don't do me like that yeah you this could be coming up on a year it's a penalty for being late I got you I got one thing about it see you got it but I need to get it you know pocket's light right now pocket's light

31:10that's why I love you that's what I love that's what I need come on back home That's what I need. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's the standing I need.

31:25Shannon Sharpe:We're going to be all right. We're going to be all right. I'm telling you. We good. Hey, Ty Trippin said, we're going to be all right. We good. And Micah, Micah said, when you back me in the corner, I won't even be here no more. Hey, if you think, I'll tell you what, if you upset, talking about I might not be here, I missed six games, trade me. Yeah. See what the market is and trade me. Man, listen. But, hey, if Jerry was to play, obviously, you know he's not going to do that. Boy, you know, Micah could reset the market by what? He's going to reset the market anyway. He might get 50. I mean, I'm.

32:02Shannon Sharpe:I definitely believe he can get 45. Yeah, easy. I believe he can get 45. Whatever Miles Garrett got in guaranteed money. I think Miles got 123. He can go 140. Easy. but this is the only part I don't like is whatever team he goes to, it wouldn't be a contender. It'd be a team that has a lot of room, a lot of salary cap room so they'd be able to pay him that. Eagles will trade for it. The commanders will definitely trade for it. The commanders, the Eagles, that's not fair. That's not fair. If he was to go to the Eagles and they gave up whatever compensation they would want for Michael Parsons then you might as well hand him the goddamn Lombardi now.

32:41Shannon Sharpe:Just go ahead and give it to him. Well, Jared said he worried about him missing time. He won't have to worry about it. He don't have to worry about paying him, and he ain't got to worry about him getting injured and missing time on his dime. So with that being said, and at some point in time, it's just like, bro, what are we doing here? I get it. I get it. You own the team. You said, hey, I'm in my fifth year. We could have did something after year four. I mean, year three. We could have done something after year four. So now we're into the option. You picked up my fifth-year player option. That's where we are right now?

33:15Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. After four Pro Bowls, two, three first-team All-Pros, defensive rookie of the year? 12 sacks a season, 12 sacks four years in a row. Come on, man. So is that what we're doing right now? Yeah, really? Really, that's what we're doing? Listen, I can't say it couldn't be me because I'm just fine. He said this is negotiating, though, Joe. He said we're negotiating now. Right. But it's a shrewd business. It's a shrewd business. And the fact that he let his feelings go, out publicly like that, it says all you need to know. Yeah. It says all you need to know. I think you and I, look, we played sports and we've been in the, we negotiated.

33:55Shannon Sharpe:When negotiation gets personal, you gotta be careful, Ocho. Yeah. You gotta be careful. Yeah. In any type of negotiation, Right. Whatever the case may be, if it starts to get personal, one side will start to build up a resentment towards the other side. Right. Right. And then even when he gets the money, they still feel a certain way. And then the other person that gave you the money still feels a certain type of way. The funny thing about it is, regardless for us as the player, we're never in a position of leverage. No. We're never in a position of power.

34:36Shannon Sharpe:Unless you're like, you know what? You turn out to be like, damn, I'm balling. I'm defensive rookie of the year. I'm all pro. and I really just sit on my money and I'm willing to say, okay, y 'all playing. I see y 'all week eight so I can get that. I'll see y 'all week eight so I get that best of year, come in, give me another quick eight sacks. Now what y 'all gonna do? Y 'all play, y 'all play, I play. Right. Yeah. But see, that's the thing. If you didn't have, see, Jerry knows he has leverage. He has a fifth year player option, which is this year, and he has two franchise tags. Ooh. So just imagine, just imagine, see, Dak, you see what Dak wrote in his contract?

35:22Shannon Sharpe:No franchise tags. Oh, yeah. No franchise tags. Quarterback, he can do that. Hey, put that in there. Right. Hey, no, you can't franchise me because that's the leverage that they got because I got, I got, theoretically, Mike, I got you for this year and two more.

35:44damn that's a it's unbelievable the game the game that they play you already know how they feel right you already know how they feel about you you know it's one thing that they say and i hate to bring it up because the first thing when you when you compare the nfl to a certain term they want to use the first people first thing people bring up well you get paid millions but it's modern day you know what but you get paid millions you know but that's neat to hear no there but just to hear jerry say it just the fact that he uttered the words with confidence yeah for sure in the world about your star player and then he took a shot at deck what what are we what are we doing

36:29Shannon Sharpe:well look dack realized he's a quarterback dack is the leader of the team yes but he and jerry it's not like see Jerry had a relationship with Tony Romo yeah that's Dak is always having post Jerry because it was Jerry that wanted to give Tony Romo his job back that wouldn't happen oh he he kind of got you know Steven and I think Jason Garrett and a few others like Jerry what are you doing what are you serious yeah even after all those injuries that, that, uh, Tony Romo, he paid him. He mentioned nothing about no injury. He mentioned nothing about that. And at one point in time, Tony Romo was the highest paid player in the NFL.

37:24Hey,

37:25Shannon Sharpe:when I blink it. Yeah. Jerry also spoke to reporters about Michael Trey requests. Let's take a listen to what Jerry had to say. Would you ever consider trading Micah? Again, I don't really place that with any real seriousness. You know, Micah's got a bad back. That's like being traded. Did the request take you by surprise? The only way it's saying. Did the request take you by surprise? Again, no, that's negotiation. I've heard that so many times in my 30 years in the NFL from not just players but agents. And, of course, we all understand contracts. We're under contract. That's what we're doing.

38:18We're looking at adjusting the contract, but we're under contract and we're in camp. And that's the way the rules are set up. But that is old stuff, 30 years of old stuff. Some of these issues we're hearing about trading, hurtbacks, all that kind of stuff. When do you start negotiations with his people, Jerry? Again, I've started negotiations in March. By what was it with his agent? I said I started a negotiation in March, and I've negotiated double handfuls of contracts just like I did in March. He thought it was the leader.

38:58Shannon Sharpe:Again, again, again, are you asking me? Yeah. I started that in March. I questioned him in negotiation. My question was, he thought the meeting was about leadership, not about his contract. It's my answer. It's my answer. I was negotiating in March. Again, I sat with him at the Big 12 Conference Championships, sat with him at the Super Bowl. So Mike is easy for me to talk to, and we've had good talks. And we had a good talk regarding negotiation of the contract, the way I have many, many, many players. Man. He said something very interesting, Ocho. What part? He said Michael's under contract. But what about when players are under contract and they get cut?

39:40Shannon Sharpe:They don't care. You know they don't care. If they have one-sided, he's talking, oh, we have contract and we have rules. But the rules are one-sided. If I outperform the contract, want a new contract, you say, whoa, whoa, you under contract. If I underperform the contract that I signed, you say you got to go. You see, this is what players should be. This is why they fight so hard to try to get guaranteed money. This is what you should be. Instead of petty privileges, instead of worrying about two-a-days and worrying about how many petty practices you have during the course of the year, these are the things that true leadership in the NFLPA, this is what you should be fighting for.

40:16Shannon Sharpe:I'm getting rid of. No, we're not doing no franchise tag. Right. Look, if I'm at a normal job and my contract is coming up, they can't say, well, we're going to franchise you. And if I work for Google, that means I can't go talk to Apple or I can't go talk to Microsoft. No. Free agency, how can you be free if you're under tag? They got a tag on you. Free agency means I'm free to negotiate wherever. And there can't be a cap because whatever the market will bear. I just saw Mark Zuckerberg just pay a guy, AI guy,$250 million, gave him$100 million up front. That's what free agency is. All I'm saying is, and I'm going to give it, I just hope the next person at the NFLPA, this is some of the things.

41:21Shannon Sharpe:health benefits no no no franchise tag no franchise tag gotta go guaranteed contracts yeah man because you can't have it both ways you can negotiate with me when you want to but you can also cut me when you want to so if I outperformed the contract you say you got a contract I underperformed the contract you didn't perform up to the standard and so now you gone yeah so you got to you got to be careful they need somebody all right i know you you think you view me you view me as the fun the love the entertainment the jokes and the laughter but they need somebody shrewd that could be shrewd right back when it comes to conducting business you got to be someone that's fighting for the players not minimizing the players and pretending like i'm for you but really siding on the other end man listen you know how we talk the NFL owners don't want to lose the leverage.

42:21Baseball, players have the leverage. Basketball, the players have the leverage. All sports where contracts are guaranteed, the players have the leverage. I think so many players on a team, NFL owners don't want to lose the leverage of the players.

42:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I'm glad. Guess what? And I don't know when this back issue, hey, they ain't putting no Ben Gay on it either. So I don't know when this back issue, because it flares up. Every time I go to put that helmet on, my back's starting to hurt, Ocho. Every time. Every time. He could play hardball. He could play hardball, but listen, with owners, GMs, everyone that sits in a position of power on the NFL team, what they will use against you is they know you're probably full before I do because you love the game. You love the game. Yep. They're banking on it. They're banking on it. You're going to fold before they do.

43:16So, hey, you got to play hardball. How hard do you want to play the game? Because they're going to play with you. They're going to test you. Yeah.

43:27Shannon Sharpe:You see how agitated he got? I negotiated in March. Yeah. And I answered the question already. No. Michael said he thought you were talking about leadership. Mm-hmm. He referred you to his agent. You asking me? Yeah, we're asking you. but we talked to Michael too. Listen, can you imagine a chat? I don't, I don't mean, I'm not, I'm not into really into hypotheticals because you imagine if Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman ran the Cowboys. Can you imagine if they were the ones in charge? With the talent that they had? Cause they drafted like the second, they drafted like the second most since what, 2014, maybe the second.

44:06Shannon Sharpe:They might be first with the chiefs as far as a Pro Bowl players. Imagine. How many times have they been the number one seed and got bounced in the first round or the second round? With that talent. Hold on. When they had the best running back in football, Zeke Elliott, the best offensive line in football, and they... When they were putting eight, nine, ten guys into the Pro Bowl.

44:36Shannon Sharpe:when they had when they had when they had those teams with Romo and Witten and T.O. and they had DeMarcus Ware and they had all those guys boy were nice but they were loaded they were loaded but I think I'm not sure why Jerry can't can't get it or can't see it Jerry wants credit listen but you look at the Patriots right look at all the teams that are successful every season every season the Patriots when they their dynasty and their good years. You had Belichick. You had Tom Brady. Forget that part. Where did it start? Mr. Kraft. And the only time you heard from Mr. Kraft is when he was taking the trophy out of Roger Goodell's hand.

45:15Shannon Sharpe:That's it. But everything starts at the top. Winning starts from the front office, and it trickles all the way down. Right. But Jerry wants it to be about him. The Chiefs. That's why people are like, oh, Tom Brady should go to the Cowboys. Tom Brady say Jerry I'll play for you for a million dollars and Jerry would have told him hell no because Jerry would never be bigger than Tom and Jerry don't want nobody to be on the Cowboys to be bigger than him so that's not going to happen I don't get why he's doing it like this but look they go I guess this is their you know you have a negotiation in the media when it should be negotiated behind closed doors Oh, well, X, Y, Z, we negotiated.

46:02Shannon Sharpe:We had a deal done. Michael said, well, hey, I don't even want to play for y 'all no more. Yeah. Let me go somewhere. And Jerry's continue to do this on purpose because it does what? It keeps whose team in the middle. In the media, we're talking about them. Yeah. Because ain't nobody – I mean, the only other team that we're talking about is Cleveland and Shadour. Bingo. If you really think about it, Ocho, we ain't really having a discussion about no, no, you know, we talk here and there about, you know, the bro mass between Aaron Rogers and Mike Tomlin. Yeah. I was just reading a little bit about Matthew Stafford got something going on with his back or something.

46:41Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. But, but the most part, Ocho, it's the Cowboys, the Micah, Jerry, and you got your door. Yeah. That's pretty, it's been a really, a relative quiet training camp cycle. and you know Jerry's like hey let me let me let me start some ish like hey ain't enough ain't enough popping out for us right now let me start some ish and uh and to see where this thing go yeah but the funny thing about it what I don't like is is for Micah I feel bad for Micah I feel bad for the Cowboys the fans I feel bad for the players because I know that this is how your owner thinks of you if you can talk about your star players like that, you really know what he thinks about you.

47:26And Jerry is at a forefront in letting people know nobody runs this show with me and nobody bigger than my program.

47:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Bigger than my program. Look, even the team, Jerry, just so you know, every team gets a check cut for $432 million. So it's not like you're doing an outstanding job because you're not. it sells itself. At this point, it does. Just like all the other teams sell themselves. Granted, now, when it comes to the local market, they probably don't do what Jerry does because it's Dallas. Obviously, they don't sell in Jacksonville or Cincinnati or Houston or Tennessee like they do. Okay, fine. But they're not going to be in the line tomorrow either. But just keep doing it that way. He going to get tired of Philly.

48:24Shannon Sharpe:He going to get tired of Philly and Washington running the divisions. He going to get tired of it. Listen, it's been 30 years. If he was going to get tired of it, he would have already picked up on how everyone else is doing things. He's continued to do it his way. He's setting his ways at this point. Of course. He's not going to change. If I was the owner of any team, I'd be taking notes. Okay, this is what Kraft did. This is what Belichick did. Okay, this is what Howie and Jeff did. This is what Clark Hunt and Andy Reid, how they handle business. Okay, let me see the Roonies. The Roonies had success during this era.

48:56All right, we're in a different era, but let me see if I can steal some of the things that they did and how they conducted business. Let me add this to my – it came up with my own game plan, my own formula on how to conduct things, draft right, pay early, keep certain – man.

49:11Shannon Sharpe:That's what they do. They pay early. We identify a guy. We drafted him. We're a homegrown guy. Let's get him in year three. You know, they got Karloftis. is going to take a pretty penny to get McDuffie signed. But, you know. Are they going to sign McDuffie? Could you let the Jerry Sneed? Yeah, they're not going to let him go. Yeah. They're not going to let him go. Later in the presser, Jerry tried to use Des Bryant negotiation as reasoning for not wanting to work with Michael Parsons' agent. Let's take a listen to what Jerry said about this. Why would you yourself not talk to the agent? Because the agent, when we have a problem within a team and a player, I don't ever find the agent.

49:54Shannon Sharpe:He's nowhere to be found. Okay? Jay-Z said that Michael would make all, I'm not Michael, but that Des would make all meetings. Jay-Z and I negotiated the contract. We spent hours negotiating the contract. Jay-Z. And he said, anybody in my organization is on time. I said, my office used to be on the street corner, and I've always been early. So they will be on time. I said, where do I sign? But I'm going to call you. Finally, he quit taking my call. I know Jared. Jared, drop this, though. Dance. What the hell? What does that have to do with any goddamn thing? He said, the reason why I don't like working with agents, because the agent told me that this client was going to be on time.

50:43Shannon Sharpe:Right. That's what he told me. He said, I'm used to working on the street corner. And if you work on the street corner, if you're late, if you're early, you're late. So you better believe my guy. If they're in this organization, which was Rock Nation, they're going to be on time. This was De 'a's response. Jerry Jones, I don't think it's smart. Mentioned my name. I kept quiet about a lot of unfair-ish. Oh, so G-ish. We have a story time. That's what we're doing. Yeah. You know, De 'a's got his little piece. but you can't win that war. You can't win that war. Nah. You can't win that war. And what I wouldn't do...

51:22I'm not getting into it.

51:25Shannon Sharpe:Jerry is the type to tell all your business. Oh, Joe. That's a little... Okay, Dez was late for meeting. Okay, I get it. Who wouldn't? Because I was too. But Jerry might not... Hold on. No, Jerry, you can't say that. Oh, I wasn't supposed to tell that much? You know, Jerry, hey, you know, the old people, when they measure, they don't really have no measuring. They go by field. They go by, okay, this and that. Ain't no measuring cup. Some, you know, coaches, owners might measure. Okay, I get a little bit. Jerry just pour. Hey, listen. If he can do to Micah, who is of value to his franchise right now, What do you think he'd do to Dez, who is of no value right now, playing for you?

52:16Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. You know? And also, I wouldn't want to... There are certain bridges I don't want to burn. Yeah, for sure. Certain bridges I don't want to burn because you never know when you might have to cross them again. Yeah. Dez, but I'm sure Dez was sitting on his couch. Right. No, Dez was probably playing Madden because you say Dez's good with sticks. Yeah, yeah. Dez's nice. Dez's nice. What the hell I got to do with this? I'm minding my own business. And you bring me into this. You know what's funny is we have people on the outside looking at it. They're just owners. And I want people to understand how powerful, how powerful these individuals are outside of the game of football.

53:04I want people to understand. So when I just said there's certain bridges you don't want to burn, even if, okay, you know what he said, something you don't like? Well, you know what? There's certain things you got to let go because you go on the war with something you will never be able to defeat. And it can ruin a lot of things for you outside, if you get what I'm saying.

53:26And folks is very, very, very, very powerful outside of football. I think people don't, you know, I think people really don't, really don't understand the power that these individuals have. oh yeah they do I mean the cat just the regular football fans like people in the chat

53:43Shannon Sharpe:oh yeah yeah yeah people are I told him Mr. Bowling calling got my money back

53:54Shannon Sharpe:Ocho I can if I give you the right tools you can probably win the war but I gotta give you the right weapons to go fight I don't know currently if Micah has the weapon to fight

54:18now he had no leverage on

54:20Shannon Sharpe:it's unfair yep I'm like how long you been retired seven years eight years I'm not sure why he even brought Dez's name up. Yes! It didn't make no sense. Because here's the thing. You could say that you didn't have to use Dez. You could have said there have been times that the agent told me that player X was going to get treatment. Player X was going to do X, Y, and Z. Right. When player X does not do that, and I try to get on the phone with the agent, now all of a sudden he won't return the calls. Now, but when we're negotiating money, he calling me. Right. I got all I got all his I got his I got his landline and you know a whole lot of people ain't got landlines no more but I got his landline I got the number to the secretary I got his personal phone number I got X, Y, and Z all I'm saying is he didn't have to use Dez that ain't make no sense he didn't have to use Dez it make no sense and I can assure you Dez is not but Dez hey just let it just let it rock let it slide you good hey you the major money you straight you live in Dallas you got a nice life don't mess it up with some some petty bull job it ain't even worth it bro you know that I know it's frustrating that he dragging you into something you ain't got nothing to do with that's that's between Jerry Micah and David Mugletta yeah they gotta do it dance right I don't know if there is an age I don't know if Rock Nation has a client on the Cowboys I don't know.

56:01Shannon Sharpe:All I do know is that Dez's name shouldn't have been brought up when you're trying to make a point of why you don't like negotiating with agents. But all these millions... He's throwing everybody under the bus, huh? Jerry's throwing everybody under the bus. Reversing over them. Golly! Man, what's he doing? It backed up over. But I thought that was the whole thing. That's the whole thing about having an agent. I mean, when Jerry, when I guarantee when Jerry goes, you negotiate these hundred million dollar deals. Jerry send his hundred million dollar lawyers in there to go shape with the other companies, hundred million dollar lawyers.

56:48Right. And you think him and Muguleta don't get along? You think they got some personal issues or something?

56:54Shannon Sharpe:No, Muguleta going to be looking to reset the market. Damn. The same thing Todd Franz did when he got Dak's money. Now, I don't know who represents CD, but I know Todd Franz represents Dak. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm looking to reset the market because I want to keep climbing higher, and I'm trying to get as much money as I guarantee. Because I'm trying to get who got the most guaranteed money? Miles Garrett, 123? Okay. I'm trying to get 140 because we're going to keep pushing it. We're going to keep pushing it. Oh, Lamar Jackson said, oh, did y 'all see what Josh Allen got guaranteed? I'm going to need that.

57:34Shannon Sharpe:Because he got one MVP. I got two. Matter of fact, you know. Should have had three. You know, shoot, Lamar going back to the table after this season. Hell, Lamar trying to go back to the table before this season. Yeah. Well, it's going to happen. I'm sure it hit the ticket at some point. I'm just saying, hey, I'm just saying, look, if you're talking about north of what Josh got. holler at your boy. If that ain't what you're looking for, what we talking about?

58:06Shannon Sharpe:Damn. I mean, what's the mark, 28, 29? He straight. He good. Yeah.

58:16Man, I can't believe Jerry be throwing everybody under the bus. Hey, man, Jerry don't care, man. Buddy don't care, man.

58:23Shannon Sharpe:Jerry, you do realize, first of all, Jared, you do realize these are supposed to be private conversations. Like when you talk to an agent, you're supposed to be private. This man mentioned Jay-Z by name. I did a deal with Jay-Z myself. So he going to be on time. So tell me where I signed at. Right there. Hey, man. Oh, I had a conversation with Mike and March at the Big 12 Championship at the Super Bowl. Right, right. Bro, this private conversation. It got nothing to do with nothing. this is business man hey I didn't find out Jerry you wearing a wire you telling everybody business Jerry put it out there man yeah Dave's response I read the quote Jerry Jones I don't think it's smart to mention my name I kept quiet about a lot of unfair ish or some G-ish we can have a story time if that's what we're doing nah just let it rock Dave Let it rock, Dave.

59:25Shannon Sharpe:Let it rock. Rock Nation, Terrence Steele. Oh, okay. Terrence Steele, he's the right tackle on the Cowboys. Rock Nation also responded in 2015 at 21 Club on a napkin. Jerry Jones, Juan Perez, Sean J.Z. Carter, and Stephen Jones negotiated a five-year, $70 million deal, which included$45 million guaranteed and a$20 million signing bonus for Dez Bryant at the time, which was the second largest contract for a wide receiver in NFL history. The claim that Mr. Carter, a Roc Nation representative, did not return a call from Jerry Jones is not only a false statement, but it's also a comical one. Roc Nation sports representative.

1:00:10So now Jerry lying, too. Well, shoot, you know, who don't? We all listen, but he ain't handling business the right way. he ain't handling business the right way nope but guess what he don't care

1:00:28Shannon Sharpe:definitely don't he don't care Jay definitely don't

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