BEST of UNC CRASHING OUT on Guest Part 1: Unc CHECKS Jim Jones on DISRESPECTING NAS, Lifting Weights, ROASTING Claressa Shields for thinking she could BEAT Rolly Romero

18:29Shannon Sharpe:Can I ask you a question, Jim? Mm-hmm. You smoke, right? Yeah. Were you smoking when you said you better than Nas? I might have been a little bit. Well, as far as, let's get this right. I'm way more influential than Nas, and I don't care what nobody say. I know I made a little booboo when you talk about the sales and all this type of shit. I don't feel like getting into that rhetoric about where I started and where he started. Well, you said that bullshit. But listen, Nas was nice when I was in high school. When I was in 10th grade, Nas came out. Nas was dope. We appreciated him. He had a little bit of run.

18:59But Nas always came up second to J and DMX and all these other people. Ain't no shame with that. A lot of more folks came up second to Tom Brady. He never had that type of influence on us, except for his first album. I already told you. I used to want to dress like Nas because he had a lot of fresh clothes that the hustlers used to wear and shit. And we used to see him on TV. He had one of the illest albums of all time. and then in high school when he had the barbecue and shit like that. So I'm a real fan of Nas, but he kind of lost me after the movie Belly and shit like that. Man, go ahead on with that, Jim.

19:26I'm trying to tell you. I'm being honest. You want to ask me? I'm being a fan. I'm telling you from the movie Belly was fire, but after that, he kind of lost me. I think we was way too much into the game. Remember how this goes. Have you ever heard of a Kofi list? Yeah. Yo, go back into your history and find out what happened between us and him. You dig in? I'm not trying to repeat history, but don't play with us when it comes to that. Bro, we already went wild on them boys. You heard? We the ones that went wild on them boys. You heard?

19:53Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Jim. And people out here acting like I said, I'm going to bring the koofy list back. I just told you I'm going to change man, Stephan Law. Can you dig? Nah, look. I'm going to put it there like this, Jim. Bro, you've been at this thing. But lyrically, I'm going to keep it a stack with you. Yeah, but look how you dress. Look how you dress. You don't even be in the same places I be in. I can be in the church house. You can't ever know us lyrically. I don't know who told you that. Now, look, I know you're on that good stuff, but you're not seeing Nas. You're not seeing Nas, bro. Let's be real.

20:24You got a bunch of 40 and 50-year-olds in their panties because I said, I'm better than Nas. It don't matter. Look at you. Ain't nobody from Dipset going to take you over Nas.

20:34Shannon Sharpe:Ain't nobody from the Diplomats but you. That's true. I got to take you. Hold on. That's true. That's true. That's true. Hold on. Hold on. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. That's true.

20:51I got a question. I got a question. I got a question. Let Nas stick up for itself and meet me in a booth or something if we want to do something historical. He don't do that no more.

20:59Shannon Sharpe:Nas say he don't do that. Because he got a hundred million dollars. He's a very wealthy man. You heard he's a very smart businessman. He caught a couple business licks. Hold on. Hold on.

21:06Joe Johnson:Jimmy, hold on. I got a question. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. you preach it all the time, right? When you was playing football, your first thing you always say, ain't nobody here better than me. Ah, tell him again. You done told me that story a million times. Wait, listen to me, man. Fuck you think I'm going to be second to anybody in this world? Hold on, Jimmy. Jimmy, stay with me real quick. Stay with me now. Stay with me now. But I'm just saying, that mentality, isn't that how you supposed to feel? Isn't that how you supposed to feel?

21:42Shannon Sharpe:So let me ask you a question. When you was on the field, You thought you was better than T.O. and Moss? Hell yeah. What you mean? I ain't going to say it out loud. You done came on here and say, I ain't better than Moss. I'm not better than T.O. I'm not better than Rice. You said that. I'm not playing the game no more. But you wasn't playing. When you was playing. That's the difference. Jim, why you talking? You need to get with the locks. I'm still playing. Jada them though, because y 'all in the versus. I'm still playing. I'm still playing at a high level. You need to check my record, you heard?

22:12You jumping up the mouth. I'm still playing at a high level. You need to go back and get Jada. I'm rapping at a high level. You better check my stats, bro. I will run circles around Nas rapping right now. Right now, I will run satin around Nas right now rapping. Everybody knows that. You heard? That's not talking about the past.

22:35Shannon Sharpe:Bro, bro, bro. He put it down. He set it down. I will run laps around Nas rapping right now, bro. Jim. Oh, you're talking about right now. But I'm talking about when y 'all, and his friend and your friend, you couldn't see him. I'm still in it. He didn't get out. Cam was smoking his boots. I wasn't rapping when he was rapping, but Cam really got at him. You remember I really mean it? We've been getting at them boys, but this is not about that. Right now, 2025, I'm in the game still rapping at a high capacity. If Nas wants to smoke, come in the booth. I will rap circles around him. He don't want no smoke.

23:06He enjoying that$150 million,$200 million. Okay then, so then leave me alone while I'm on the field. You will eff it with him. I'm on the field. I'm on the field. I'm picking on whoever, whoever, whatever. I don't care. I'm on the field. And guess who's the most talked about person tomorrow?

23:21Shannon Sharpe:You don't want to feel Kendrick, Drake, Weezy. They on the field. You need to call like Drake. You need to call like Weezy. You need to call like Kendrick. You need to call somebody that's still in it. He ain't in it. Why? Kendrick ain't my age. Kendrick ain't my age. I was in a day in my era. That's not my era. He retired. Have you ever heard of retirement? Well, that's my error, so I'm calling all of them out. I don't care if you retired or not. Deal with it. If not, meet me in the booth, Jack. You heard me? Meet me in the booth. And I'm just talking about sportsmanship. Wait, hey. Call Jada.

23:56Let's get this right. I'm not mad. It's about the sportsmanship of the game. People know I'm a very aggressive person, and that seems to get misconstrued when I'm talking my shit. I'm just talking my shit. You heard me? Let me talk my shit because I am on the field. If anybody got a problem with that, they can meet me on the field. That is the booth. Anybody from that era. Anybody. Hey, well, I got... Anybody from that era. Anybody. Well, you and Jada in the same era. Anybody from that era. You ain't seeing Jada. Stop that. I said anybody from that era. Stop that. I'm not scared of nobody. Man, pup.

24:35Hey, hey, see you speeding right now. Anybody from that era.

24:39Shannon Sharpe:I'm not scared of nobody. Hey, put the break of this on. I got to put the break assist on. You speed, so I got to sit you down. I'm in the field daily. In the booth daily.

24:50Joe Johnson:Anybody want to work out, tell him come to the field. This is the perfect opportunity. You're not even paying attention. Your antennas ain't up right now. Listen, he said anybody from his area, anybody here in the field, right? Shit, we can have our own versus, our own nightcap versus. I got NARB and JATER. It's deeper than the versus. It's about who making music Meet me in the booth Put the record up Give us a time to do the record bar Give us a subject And let's see who gonna smoke who in the booth Yeah, it is That's it Come on It's about the sportsmanship It's about the craftsmanship Fuck the numbers Fuck the records You heard Cause we both got records that can smash We both got Nigga, meet me in the booth Fuck all that old school shit Won't play no records from 20 years ago I am not nostalgic, nigga It's 2025 Don't want smoke Meet me in the booth set it up and we can do it for money.

25:42Labels that pay for it, how y 'all want to do it? We can make a spectacle out here. I got it. Let's go. I'm a sportsman, you heard?

25:50Shannon Sharpe:I got Nas. I got God for it. Well, get him in the booth. I got Jada. Listen to me. If you get anybody in the booth, I will pull up by myself. On my... Why would you want to pull up with the team? They can't help you. When you get on that mic, they can't help you. When 39 starts spitting, who you gonna get to help you?

26:15Joe Johnson:Hey, Unc, you not seeing the vision. I'm seeing the vision. Unc, you not seeing the vision. That nigga's sharing his shirt to tight. It's an opportunity.

26:21Shannon Sharpe:You gotta start buying a bag of your clothes, big fella. You too big, man. You talk about you in the gym. Now you want to get me to see me in the gym? Oh, we can do that. If you like to talk that ish, now come see me in the gym. Come see me in the gym. What we talking about? Working out or strength? Hey, ho, ho, ho. What we talking about? Working out or strength? Work however you want to do it. Since you got money, put your money where your mind feels. Run them stacks. You talking about working out, I burn you. You talking about working out of strength. Because you probably can live a lot more than me.

26:53Whatever. You're probably stronger than me. But if you talk about working out, you talking about working out, I burn you.

26:59Shannon Sharpe:This ain't what you do. This ain't what you want. You're doing good when you're talking about Niles and Jada. You don't want to see this. You better check the stack. You better check my stack. You better go to my IG. Set it up. Also, set it up. I'll be the... Hey, I live for dump trucks. Don't load it up. Or guys like you. What you want to start on? You ain't in my league, bro. What you want to start on? How you want to do this? You ain't in my league. What you want to start on? You ain't in my league. You too small. You too small. You too small. You too small. Hey, hey, Jim. You want to put a trainer in between?

27:28Don't back out. Do not back out now. Do not back out now. I'll come to Atlanta tomorrow and give you one. This you. Bro. You too small.

27:36Shannon Sharpe:Bro, you talking a lot. What you want to do? Stick to what you do. Hey, stick to what you do. You good on the mic. I won't take that away from you. But stay out of the deal. Do you want to do it or not? Do you want to do it or not? I want to compete too. What we doing? Hey, start with Ocho. You can't. You don't get to cover to me. Let me tell you one story. Let me tell you one story. Let me tell you one story. I'm going to tell you one story. How I met Antonio Brown. My son said, you know, Antonio Brown live up the block because I live on the beach and shit like that. I'm like, who is that? He like, he showed me to him.

28:16I DM'd him. He like, oh, yeah, your son play football? Come get this workout. So I get on the beach. Cam Newton and like a few other NFL players. I ain't going to say nobody's name. He made two of them go home because I was, I finished the workout before they finished the workout, bro. Do not play with me. I'm a beast, nigga. I will go play with you, Shannon. Shannon, I will go crazy on you. What do you want to do? You want to work out or you want to do strong shit? You heard? Because obviously you can lift longer than me, but you can't work out with me, bro. I'm a beast, nigga. I'm a beast. You can't do one muscle up, nothing.

28:48You can't do nothing with me, bro. Dude, you weigh 150 pounds. You should do muscle up. I weigh 195. I weigh 195. Hey, Jim. You better go to my Instagram. Go to my Instagram right now. I work out every day. I post it. I don't post it. Don't play with me. I work out in secret. I post it every day, nigga. What's up? I don't post nothing.

29:13Shannon Sharpe:What day you want me to come to Atlanta? I ain't even in Atlanta. I'm going to come see you. Oh, come to New York. We got gyms. When you want to do it? Man, it looks all right. You want to do a live on the show? You want to do a live on the show? 30-minute workout? I don't do anything for sure. Just me and you. And I just want you to know that I keep your ass doing what you do. You see what I'm saying, old show? Hey. See, you about show.

29:35Joe Johnson:I'm about dough. I'm about dough. I'm about dough. I'm about dough. I'm about dough. I'm about dough. I'm about dough. The show gets the dough. You never heard that? Yeah. No dough, no show. What's up? You scared? We can do it for pay-per-view.

29:46Shannon Sharpe:We can do it for pay-per-view. I know you got a lot on the line because you're a professional football player or an ex-professional football player. I'm retired. You don't want to get straight up by a rapper. When you signed your first contract, I'm retired. When you signed your first contract, I'm retired. I'm a straight up by an older rapper. hey when we gonna compete because i ain't no rapper beat me in nothing but on the microphone when it come to the gym that ain't happening what you want to what you want to do what you want to do look here you have the rap game that's you that's your error that's your that's your era that's what your era of expertise yeah my name i ain't finna waste my time dealing with you man because you ain't on this level.

30:29Shannon Sharpe:You want to run sprints? You want to run routes? What you want to do? Or you just want to stay in the gym? Or you just want to stay in the gym? And I got a bad hamstring and I still give you work. Or you want to stay in the gym? I'm staying in the gym. I don't want to do nothing but that iron. I don't move nothing but iron. Yeah, yeah. That's what I thought. We can move iron, bro. I want to wear your ass out with the iron, bro. What I did, hey, check my resume. It's expensive. In 30 minutes, you won't last 30 minutes with me. You want me to follow you or you want to follow me? How you want to do it?

30:59Shannon Sharpe:You can't follow me.

31:00Joe Johnson:I'm going to record.

31:01Shannon Sharpe:Because you can't do nothing. You can't bench. You can't squat. You can't do nothing. You want to do body weight movements. I don't do body weight movements. I move iron. You better go check my gram. I do circus squats. I do regular squats. We do deadlifts. We do everything. Are you out your mind? Yeah. Man, I'm going to weigh you 195 pounds. Man, what I look like going up against a 195-pound man in the gym. That's wasting my time. Next. I don't want your take back. Take out. I don't want your take back. Take out. Take out. Take out. Take out. Take out. Take out. Take out. Take out. Where I'm from, a challenge is a challenge, nigga.

31:33Yeah, it regards to size, right? You heard? We fight all bullies where I'm from. That's how I get up, nigga. Yeah. You heard? I ain't scared of no man on nothing, nigga.

31:42Shannon Sharpe:You heard? Hey, I'm the US. Hey, I'm the US. What I look like taking over Greenland? They ain't got no damn military. This ain't what you like. This ain't what you looking for. Bring your mouth and your body to Harlem.

31:56Joe Johnson:Let's go to the gym. Let's go to the gym. Yeah, man.

32:00Shannon Sharpe:You thought I was one of these out of shape rappers. No, I'm in super shape. I'm not in regular shape. I'm in super shape. Hey, apple is a shape. Pear, egg. I'm not in regular shape. I'm in super shape. and you can ask everybody. The whole interview. We was having a great conversation. The whole interview knows. You see what you did? Why do you think I was on the cover of men's health? For my looks? Because I get busy.

32:32Joe Johnson:Oh, Lord have mercy. When we going in the gym, because I want this work. I'm busy. I want this work. Now you busy.

32:39Shannon Sharpe:You bring it up. Now you busy, Richman. You brought it up. You on your cupid. First of all, you chat, you on Nas, you want Jada, you want everybody, and then you got to come in and say, hey, why are nobody? You said that. You said that. You start bringing other people in. Don't say that, Bull John. Don't say that. Don't try no slick shit. I said, I don't care who it is. I will go up against anybody. That's what I said. Jim Jones claims he's a better rapper than Nas. Jim Jones defends himself against Nas comparison. Jim Jones rejects Nas comparison. Check my record. Jim Jones argued he's bigger than Nas.

33:12Shannon Sharpe:You said that. You sound like you're a little hot. You over there hot. You in your feelings. Because me and everybody else know you can't F with Nas. Fix your glasses a little bit. Your glasses is a little crooked. My glasses are fine. I take them off. And I still can see you can't F with Nas. I'll put them back on. You still can't F with Nas. Come on. Sing 16 bars in Nas right now. Sing your favorite Nas record right now. The man busy. Sing it. Sing it. Sing your favorite Nas record. First of all, once you get to a certain— Listen. Sing your favorite Nas record. Jim. I bet you know your favorite Jay-Z record.

33:58I bet you can say your favorite— What? Jim, we fly high. Okay, you done flew high. You came back down now. Sing your favorite Nas record, bro, since you going crazy for him. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I can sing more Nas records than you right now. I can sing more Nas records than you right now. So you are capping. You are capping. That's what you're doing. Bro, I'm about to be 50. I'm a bigger Nas fan than you are. You are capping.

34:27Shannon Sharpe:First of all, first of all, I'm 57. I don't be singing no rap. I don't be singing no rap. You see what I'm saying, Ocho? He don't even know about rap. He just doing this for the views to get Jim Jones on there to get him hot. I understand. Get him hot. You better check the podcast space. You don't know no Nazareth. Now you better check. Sing 16. This is the biggest podcast you ever been on. Name one Nazareth. This is the biggest podcast you ever been on. Do you know the podcast you've been on bigger than this one? Hold on. We on topic. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This is what I do. Name the podcast you've been on bigger than this one.

35:03Shannon Sharpe:When you get big, you get invited to club Shay Shay. This is what I do. Nars get invited to club She-She. Jadikin get invited to club She-She. You not on that level yet, bro. T-shirt. It's for little young white girls. Chill out. Chill out. We off topic. Chill out. We off topic. You dealing with the wrong one, bro. Right here, bro. I don't care nothing about nothing. That's what you got to say, bro. You might as well take your office. Hey, we here. You can't not talk me. Leave me alone, bro. You might get out around me, but you can't not talk me. Don't nobody want to go to club She-She. Ain't nobody want to buy no VIP tickets to that shit.

35:38Nobody rushing to go to that shit. Biggest podcast you ever been on. You ain't got nothing. If you're fortunate, you get an invite. You do got a good podcast. Nobody listening to me? The podcast is tremendous. You and Ocho do your thing. But don't get it twisted, bro. I don't care nothing about no fucking podcast, bro.

35:53Joe Johnson:We supposed to be talking about music and love and embracing one another and culture

36:00Shannon Sharpe:and having fun - Nah, we ain't going to let them come out here and disrespect Nas and Jada. Now they going to happen on here. Now, where were we? Why you keep putting Jada into this? Why you keep putting Jada into this? What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you, bro? You type of nigga that get caught like, nah, come out. They caught us all. Like, why you keep trying to put Jada into this, bro? Nah, I get it, bro. It's all good. It's all love, bro. All right, you talk about this here. Tell us about the movie you got coming out. The next movie? What you said? Yeah, you got a movie coming out, right?

36:30Yeah, coming out at the church steps. A lovely movie. I got a bunch of comedians in there, a bunch of influencers that we all know. I'm excited to put that movie out. It comes out later on this summer. It's added on to my album. Got a bunch of dope actors in there too, so I'm looking forward to that.

36:48Shannon Sharpe:So are you most proud of the movie you have coming out or the new music you got coming out? Or they're equal? I'm more proud of the business that I've been doing lately. Okay. So you must think my life revolves around music when my life is music is just probably the smallest fraction of my life, even though it fuels a lot of the things that comes to my life because of music. But I'm a great businessman all around the board, you know what I mean? So you got to learn a lot more about me. And I'm a philanthropist. I'm one of the few people that do give back, shirts off my backs and things like that.

37:21All the rhetoric about the rap and back and forth is cool and shit like that. But deep down inside, I'm a way iller man than what we over here going off about and things like that. Like, my biggest attribute is my giving back. I'm going to always do that, no matter what. I want people to get it misconstrued. I love to give back. That's what my whole mission is about. And the more I go viral, the more I'm on your Explorer page, the more opportunities come to me, the more I can give back. All this comes down to a dollar is what people don't understand. It's algorithm. It's a game that I had to learn and understand.

37:55Because I was a... Previously, I probably would crash down so many things that I see on the internet or so many ways that people are talking about me. I had to learn how to reverse it and use these things as fuel for me to keep going and things like that. And that's just what I've been doing. I got to a point where I got good at it so I know how to use it in my favor. And it's a beautiful thing. It could go against you. It could go for you. But one thing, if you're a smart person, it's going to work in your favor. You know what I mean? So I use all my opportunities to turn it into a dollar. And anytime that I'm seeing, heard, they're going to want to know about me.

38:24Extra stream is an extra dollar. I don't care about

38:29Shannon Sharpe:you know what I mean? That's what I wanted to ask you I wanted to ask was it always a part of your like if you ever made it that you were going to give back because like you said you do, you do give back to the younger generation, you do give back to your community when did that thought process, how did that come about Jim Jones like you know what if I get to a certain level and I'm able to help and I'm able to give back, that's what I'm going to do you know we from an older era a golf era era. So I watched my family open their houses to strangers sometimes and things like that. They was always a given.

39:03And not to mention when I'm coming outside and watching the hustlers doing for the community, the ones that were successful, the ones that always gave back, bus rides, sneakers, haircuts, all of that. So I just chose to carry on tradition. And me being a position of success in my life only helped me to do a little bit more than what I've seen coming up.

39:21Shannon Sharpe:That's what's up. That's good, bro. Hey, I'm going to pull up in Harlem. Come on. I'm waiting for you, man. I love you. I'm waiting for you.

39:31Joe Johnson:I love you. Hey, Jimmy. Hey, Unk. If you pull up in Harlem, we got to go to Ricardos. No, we got to go to Ricardos. Hey, Shannon. Hey, Shannon. You know why I love you? I love people that I can go back and forth with and people don't take no offense to it. You heard? That's what's up. A lot of people look at this and might take offense to it. They are. They are. But we don't care. We have a great time. And we know who we are. You dig? Yeah, for sure. You dig? We can never let no electronics get in between the realism. We know it's at stake here and we know what we're doing. You dig? And I appreciate you for that.

40:04Because a lot of people would have took everything to offense and like, you dig? Like, you heard? But we are who we are, man. I appreciate this opportunity, man. Y 'all do have a great show. I cannot take that from you. I appreciate you coming on. Let's get this workout in. Come on, O'Shea. Bring him to Harlem. Let's work out. Let's go work out. I'm going to bring him. And then go to Ricardo's.

40:22Joe Johnson:Hey, he's not as strong as he say, though. He's not as strong as he's... Oh, there you go. He's just been talking, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

40:33Shannon Sharpe:You see? Oh, man, this was the nice one. Nah, but hey, Jim, real talk, though, man. I appreciate you coming on, Ocho, and I really appreciate it. We appreciate the time. And I've never, you know, hey, we have a great time going back and forth talking about Nas and Jaden and you. But, bro, you stand the test of time. You do what you do. You're great at what you do. And I appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule tonight to come on with Ocho and I and talk about all things. So I had a great time. I don't know about Ocho, but I had a great time. Hey, listen. I had a great time. Hey, listen.

41:01Joe Johnson:This was iconic tonight. This was iconic. Anytime you got... This is the funny thing about it is people not going to understand what y 'all do. It's going to be trendy, Jim. You know we're going to be a starry in the morning. People not going to understand that. This is what we do. No, this is what we do. This is the culture. This is how we act. This is how we act when we get together. Like, people got to understand it. Yeah. I love y 'all, though, man. I appreciate it. Hey, this wasn't nothing but a Spades game without a cause. That's all. A hundred percent. Our whole attitude is spased all day.

41:29Shannon Sharpe:All the time. All day, bro. I love your man. The thing was, if I was in Harlem, he's like, okay, let's go find a gym right now. We'll find out what we bought. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. A hundred percent, man. We stand on that. Hey, but gym, hey, man, best of luck on the album. Best of luck on the movie, man. Hey, when you get some free time, stop back by. I will. I appreciate that, bro. All love. Thank you, man. All right.

42:00Joe Johnson:Hey, Ocho. That was awesome. That was awesome.

42:05Shannon Sharpe:Hey, Ocho, now you know, hey, everybody gonna say, man, Jim Jones and Shadow Shark was going

42:10Joe Johnson:to, hey. No, no, they don't understand it. Anybody that say that, they don't play spades. They don't play spades.

42:17Shannon Sharpe:But Ocho, it's been a while since I've been able to get that out. Ocho, I've been sitting on there for two months now. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.

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46:29Shannon Sharpe:Waiting on the right time, won't you? Just waiting on the right time.

46:36Shannon Sharpe:All right, here is our very special guest, a two-time Olympic gold medalist, a three-time undisputed champ, the undisputed heavyweight champion, a five-division world champion with a perfect record of 18-0, three KOs, and here she is, the greatest women's boxer of all time, Miss Clarissa Shields. Clarissa, how you doing this afternoon? Well, tonight. I'm doing good. How are you? I'm doing great. I'm doing great. Okay. This all started, I think you did a podcast with Justin LaBoy. We want to play the clip. We're going to say. Months ago. Okay. So he just. Okay. He just released it. You taped it earlier.

47:15It's been released too. I don't know why it's viral right now. But go ahead.

47:19Shannon Sharpe:We're going to play. We're going to play the clip. That everybody is talking about. Can we roll that clip?

47:28Hold on.

47:30Joe Johnson:That you believe you can. I beat Roley. He's a world champion. Roley Ramirez. Listen. It's not about, I think Roley is very unorthodox. He's very strong, right? But I'm way taller than him, way longer than him and got better boxing skills. So how about one of his punches, though? Did you not hear what I said? It's hard for somebody smaller to hurt somebody that's bigger. I walk around at 185. He fights at 140. Or is it 47? He said 140, 147. but i'm just saying though like when you and then like with his skill set he can't be

48:08Shannon Sharpe:so that's that's where it came from you said that you can be the three division world champion lightweight super lightweight and welterweight take it away he just became what's the way who did he fight against for that 47 belt i can't remember who'd be for that 47 Was it Ryan Garcia? Hold on. I just, let me see. He's recognizing the champ.

48:31Joe Johnson:If it wasn't Ryan, it was the older guy. It was the older guy, but it was a stoppage. He's talking about the Mexican that really beat him, but they gave him the... Yeah, they stopped the fight too fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy was beating him. I know the older guy, he's like 40-something years old. 46, somewhere in there. So, this is my thing. And this is why I'm so happy that... So, I want you to know something. I've been sparring against boys and men for 20 years that's two decades of boxing I didn't say I'm gonna go in there and knock Roley out I didn't say I can overpower him I said I can outbox him I've I've I've outboxed plenty of men who are professional boxers inside the ring yes sparring is not a a real fight of sparring but boxing is not MMA sparring MMA sparring is 60 70 most of the time up and sparring, especially sparring against a guy and he got his girlfriend in the gym, his wife in the gym, his kids in the gym.

49:27He not finna let no woman get off on him. I get off on men and piece them up and sparring respectfully with their women and with their kids there because I'm a very serious boxer. You cannot speak doubt into my skills and what I can do, Shannon. You know what I'm saying? You can't do that because you gotta really be in the gym. I have I sparred over 100 rounds for this fight against Franchine. Watched her. I sparred all men. I had two different sparring partners 10 rounds twice a week. That's 20 rounds, two different men for 8-10 weeks straight I sparred over 100 rounds. These guys are pros. The sparring partner I had was 170 pounds.

50:15One was 173 pounds. I'm scoring against these guys to get ready for my world championship fight against Franchard, who's a decorated amateur, a decorated pro. So, you cannot tell... First of all, I know I can beat up Roley. He knows that. He knows that. And it's not a thing of... If we just comparing skill, just because somebody is stronger, it don't mean that they can win in an old fight. That's not how it works. I promise you it's not. It's not how it works. That's not how boxing works.

50:49Shannon Sharpe:But Carissa, you do understand, he is a three-division champ. Three-quarters of his fight has ended by KO. So he has dynamite. You've never, and it's hard for me to believe that if you spar Shakur and Keyshawn Davis and some of the people, they're going in there and sparring you as if they were getting ready to fight a Tank Davis or a Ryan Garcia. It's hard for me to believe that. I'm not saying that that's not true, but it's just hard for me to believe. And you do realize Once you challenge manhood Like you challenge Roley He's gonna look to destroy you He's gonna look to hurt you Clarissa I'm just being honest This is what happens in Sporn The same thing Listen Let me show you something I've been waiting for y 'all to call today People thought I was gonna be mad about what you said That's your opinion Nothing is actually true until it's done You know what I'm saying Until it actually happens Let me find this Why is it not about me?

51:47Hold on, give me a second. I just had it up here.

51:52Shannon Sharpe:I'm on the page? Yeah. What the fuck? I mean, but see, the thing is, Carissa, I think the thing is that our opinion, I might be, look, there might be an actor that's phenomenal, but I might not like him in movies. There might be an actress that's phenomenal. She's won Academy Awards, but I might not like her in movies. That doesn't mean she's not a great actor or actress. I think you took what I said first I want you to understand that I don't take that what you're saying as like a diss to me because I know I'm the greatest woman of all time the best female fighter right now like I understand that but what I'm trying to tell you is this is not this is a sport and sport has no gender you understand sport is about hard work well I mean sport is equal man if listen you can have a twin brother and a twin sister right They go in the gym and they work out every single day together.

52:48They got the same coach. I can guarantee you if the boy slack and the girl works harder, the boy play around, I can guarantee you the girl is going to be a better fighter. And I can say that because I've lived through that. I've been in the gym with guys who were in the gym since they were six. I started when I was 11. Within six months, I was sparring against a guy that was there four years already practicing and sparring. Two months in the gym. He want to slack off and play around. I kicked his ass and I was the best in my gym till I was probably about like 15. I didn't get my ass whooped in the gym by a man till I was 16 years old.

53:28And that's like where I'm like, dang, this guy really got off on me. Like everything's not going to be a good day in the gym. But when I was in the gym, I was sparring against grown men since I was 15, 14 years old. Grown men who 26, 28, 30 years old. and you have to remember like you said oh you challenge a man's manhood you gotta know when i'm back then nobody we in the gym we are working hard we all sweating and when it kind of sparring you hit somebody in they face you buckle them you hurt they you hit them in the stomach they are going to hit you back being born in flint michigan you born in flint michigan did you watch the biopic the fire inside i just gotta know did you watch so you know that i've literally lived this.

54:11I've sparring men my entire career. And I just want to, everybody like to cut their sparring in half and show you certain stuff. This is back in 2023. This is just a full round. I don't even show this stuff. I don't even show this stuff. As you can see, I'm the one in the white and black. Can you see that? I don't know if it's good enough for y 'all. This dude is punching. This dude, 175 pounds punching with all the time. I think this is like round three or two. He came out there firing. As you can see, I can stand my ground. He's throwing punches. I got great defense. Great jab. He's trying to come.

54:51I hit him with some shots. He's trying to come back. Moving my head. I'm going to let you watch the whole round. Just enjoy the two minutes.

55:00Shannon Sharpe:But Carissa, you do understand amateurs is different than pros. There have been guys, there's some guys that the amateurs, they're not, They weren't very good, but in the pros of the different level because in the amateur, the point system and the others, in the pros are trying to get you up out of there. Those are amateurs. Roley is a world champion, a three-division world champ. This is a professional fighter. My last guys I spar were professional fighters. I've been inside the ring and spar with Shakur. I spar Keyshawn Davis. I spar Anthony Durrell, Andre Durrell. I spar, who is this? One of the guys that fought against Trilo.

55:36This one, I'm telling you. when it comes to getting good work, I'm not, I'm trying to get good work. I wouldn't even get inside the ring with a man who's like, oh, I'm not going to hear her because she's a girl. Well, get the fuck out of here then. Because I am here to work. And I feel like if somebody not supposed to be in the ring with you, you get them out of there. I've never gotten a ring with a man and he was like, I got in there and she didn't deserve to be in the ring with me because I was just that much better than her. It has never happened. It's never happened. I'm sorry.

56:05Shannon Sharpe:We have Rolly response to you. Did you see what Rolly said? We got the sound. Rolly loved me. He said he's not going to hit me back or something like that. We going to play the sound? Okay, we going to play the sound. Better boxing skills than him, and I'm bigger than him. Just your thoughts when you saw that clip. What did you think when you saw that? I believe her.

56:27Joe Johnson:I believe she's going to be me. She'll knock me out. I don't think I knocked her out, but I definitely am. I don't hit women. That's true. I understand that. So, with that answer being, listen, I'm not afraid to get inside the ring and spar against a man. I never have been. And I think people love to bring up this clip where I got dropped in 2018 by this guy. I didn't get knocked out. I got dropped. Yes. And pretty much guys get dropped. Is that the guy that Rolly dropped? That's the guy who Roley knocked out. Absolutely. Roley knocked him out around 2019. But this is what you have to understand.

57:14That guy is a cheat. He didn't have no padding in his gloves. And if it's not true, why him and a coach haven't sued me yet? That dude, I had whooped him the week before. He was mad. He didn't like it. I'm a black African-American female. They don't value women in his country, and they definitely don't value no damn black woman. his coach gave him some worn glove that he said he got from Roberto Durant as a gift this is what the man said Derek Santos the coach the gloves had zero to no padding in them and he caught me with that hook when we sparred because he won a revenge on the week before when I tapped his ass now this is the thing right he sparred me and another guy the same day anytime I go to the gym and I'm sparring rounds getting ready for a world championship fight I sparred two different men.

58:02I always done that. I'm always the one standing in the ring staying fresh. He sparred that same guy and I was standing there confused. It's my first time ever getting dropped. Been boxing since I was 11 years old. I've never been dropped before. I'm curious on how this dude dropped me. I'm watching him and this dude named Harold Kaderin spar after me and him got done. I'm watching him spar and Harold said, you wasn't hitting like that last week and i looked and i said what the fuck you meant by that when he got done when i got done sparring i walked to him and said hey man good work i hit his glove and i can tell you it was no padding in there my coach uh coach john david jackson was there derrick santos was there derrick he grabbed the gloves off of the dual hands and stuck them in a um ziploc book bag and walked off i literally ran to my car and everybody know what i did everybody know when i ran what i ran to my car to go do but i learned the valuable lesson when you sparring against anybody check their gloves i never was aware of that before but that was back in 20 2018 we was in 2026 and they can't bring up nothing else that's flawed in my career but that knockdown and then the knockdown with hannah gabriel's came a couple days after that when i fought her in the first round i still won that fight unanimously, but I've never been dropped before that and never have been dropped after that, after those moments.

59:36Hey, I have a

59:38Joe Johnson:question. Yeah, I have a question, right? Obviously, I talked about it last night, about your skill in the ring. Obviously, being more of a pure boxer, being a little bit more polished than Roley is, whether it's fighting on the inside, whether it's fighting at mid-range, or whether it's fighting at distance. I understand what you're going to do. I understand your defensive position. You understand boxing. Uncle Shannon don't understand boxing for real. Yeah, but what I did say is I'm thinking of if, just hypothetically speaking, if you did fight Roley, understanding that he can crack, understanding that his boxing skills and his pedigree is not what yours is, understanding that.

1:00:16Joe Johnson:But in a fight, you obviously have to be cautious. If he was to catch you because he can crack, I mean, do you think he would knock you out if he was to catch you? Nah, but can I ask you something? Talk to me. Since we didn't have one punch, who is it that box right now? Because you box. Who is it right now that's a man that if he hits you one time with a good shot, you going to sleep? Who? Is it Shakur? Is it Keyshawn? Is it Terrence? Who can catch you with one shot, Ocho, and it's night-night for you? I think it...

1:00:57Shannon Sharpe:round one me personally round one ocho to answer her question i think any guy that has a championship has a championship belt if he catches if he catches you on your chin you're going to sleep uncle uncle shannon we know why you why you saying this you are macho macho football football strength but but that's that's not going that's not going to happen because i've been hit on my chin i've been hit in my stomach i've been hit by professional

1:01:31We sparring. When have I ever gotten a ring with the man Brown - In the original thing, you didn't say sparring.

1:01:35Shannon Sharpe:You said you can beat Roley. It wasn't until later that you said sparring. So the question is not - Well, that's the only way down with your fight. If it's a sparring, when have you seen a woman versus a man? I haven't seen it. So what did we talk - You said you could beat Roley in a fight. Not sparring. Sparring came along later. We played the clip. Do we need to replay the clip? So you're talking about up in a real fight Yeah You said you walked around at 185 He fights at 140 So you're saying that If it's money and belts on the line And I got me a 2 or 3 month camp You telling me that Roley gonna knock me out Up in what round Roley gonna beat you Yes Roley would stop you Yes Roley would stop you Yes I believe Roley would stop you You are nuts but I love that for you because when you don't know boxing you just don't know boxing that will and you don't know me that will but I will say this I've never went inside the ring with anybody and been just can I ask you a question Clarissa come on now did you not see the defense and the offense in my last fight can I ask you a question Clarissa can you answer the question did you not see the offense and defense that was against French Sean this is Roley a three division champ Listen, guys that really know how to box, I would tell you that they can do what they can do, that they better boxers or skilled or power or whatever they mean.

1:03:04Roley is not.

1:03:06Shannon Sharpe:Carissa, even if he walks around at 180, and he walks around, let's just say for the sake of argument, if he's making weight at 147, I'm saying he's probably walking around at 160, 165. I'm going to be generous and say he's gripping 14, between 15 and 20 pounds off. even at 155, 165, his body still produces more testosterone than yours. Nobody ever said I was stronger than Roley. I never said that. You said that. I am telling you off of pure boxing. Look, Deontay Wilder have 41 knockouts. He getting there with a pure boxer like Tyson Fury and lose. This is men to men, but I am telling you skill to skill, skill to skill.

1:03:48You are not looking at skill to skill, man. You're just not because you can't, because you too macho macho.

1:03:55Shannon Sharpe:But you're looking at Roley like he's not skilled. You're looking at Roley like he's not skilled. I am telling you that Roley is skilled. He's not better skilled than me. And Ocho even just told you that. Ocho just told you that. So I'm going to ask Ocho. Ocho just told you that. So he's not as skilled as Clarissa. Do you believe Clarissa can beat him in a fight, in a sanctioned fight, a 12-round fight with 10-ounce gloves? Do you believe Clarissa could beat him?

1:04:26Joe Johnson:That's what I explained when I first said it. Are you going to be able to protect yourself in a 10-round fight and not get caught in exchanges? What you guys do is tuck your chin and keep your fucking hands up. What are we talking? I'm going to go in there. Oh, I'm going to go power for power with Roley. Man, come on. You've seen the jab in the fight. You've seen the head movement. You've seen the body work. And anybody I know, when you fight against somebody that strong, you hit them where? The body. I'm going to Roley's body early. Where do you think he's going to hit you?

1:04:58Shannon Sharpe:Let me ask you a question. Where do you think he's going to hit you? Everybody gets hit. But you've never been hit by a man without headgear. Why would I have to get hit by a man without headgear? If you fight Roley, it's going to be a fight. You said if you've got two to three months to fight. You can take Roley out and real fights. I can't tell you what can happen with or without headgear versus a man because I never did that with the men. I've only sparred with it. Just like a man can tell you he's never been hit by a woman without headgear because they don't spar us without headgear either.

1:05:28Shannon Sharpe:Normally men don't. First of all, it's hard for me to believe that Keyshawn Davis are getting ready or these elite fighters are getting ready for another elite fighter. They're going to bring a woman in to spar. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen or it hasn't happened. it's just hard for me to believe that Manny Pacquiao is getting ready to spar for these great fighters and he's sparring a woman it's just hard for me to believe it's hard for you to believe because it's only one Claressa Shields a lot of these women cannot spar against men and get ready for no fights they're sparring against other women I cannot do that I watch every woman who I spar every woman who I work out with I watch them I am advanced I've been doing this for 20 years and I grew up in a gym with nothing but boys and men sparring them.

1:06:14Listen, the truth hurts. And what I think that hurts for you is to know that I'm a pure boxer and I know how to box very well. I don't fight like a girl. I know how to box, Shannon.

1:06:27Shannon Sharpe:I'm not saying that you don't, but I don't understand why I would be upset. I want you to win. I've spoken in glowing terms and saying you the best. But I just don't believe that you're going to be a three-division champ that's 147 in a fight i just don't yeah and you know you know what also you can have that belief

1:06:44Joe Johnson:and and that's okay it's not another wrong this is also what i also want to say and i kept saying it last night and i've regurgitated it over and over and over when it comes to you being the greatest at what you do it's really the mentality you have right now the belief that that i can do it whether we believe you can or not for me you getting in there with with the with an actual fighter, weight division champion, me understanding him not being a pure boxer and all that, I just understand the dangers behind it. I understand the danger behind it, especially in a 10-round fight, and there's no goddamn headgear.

1:07:16Joe Johnson:Yeah, you gotta watch your ass. But you gotta watch your ass, too. Yeah, you gotta be goddamn cautious. But I think the fact that you even believe it, whether we think you can win or fucking not, this is why you are the best at what you do. But that's why, and now that we're speaking on that, I think I tweeted and I said the way how I believe in myself, it is not to intimidate you but that is what greats have to do and i am a great um i've been a great for a long time and i and i know what i can and what i cannot do and what i will tell you is proper preparation prevents poor performance if i go and i watch film on roly and i go and i die and i go and i really dissect them and see what you do good and what you do bad i'm telling you i know that my skill can be the most if i really did my homework and and really had to sit there with it and prepare i'm gonna go and spar against um a kishan davis i'm gonna i'm i'm have to call up to your female i'm at the cops record hey y 'all come come help me get ready i have to call terrence crosser hey y 'all help me get ready and i guarantee you if i if i done that which i would because that's how professionals and that's how fighters and champions think with them helping me prepare and then me having a uncle uncle shannon said a sanctioned fight with roley i'm sorry you guys but the truth is in the pudding and that i will win but let well help

1:08:36Shannon Sharpe:me understand this what does my hips have to do with anything because because if i ask you uh uh could you run a go route could you run a square in could you block a seven technique in a uh in over front would you know what to do if they brought two off your side of you in the slot what would you do? Doing a what? Are we talking about football or a track? I'm talking about football. If they brought two off your slide and you the slot, what would you do? I don't even know what you talking about. But now, but see, you took a shot at me, talking about I couldn't throw a punch. I'm not a boxer. You told me a dude can knock me out!

1:09:09Shannon Sharpe:That is my opinion! What do you want me to say? You took me, but see, you took a personal shot because I gave, I didn't take a personal shot at you. See, see, this is where y 'all get it wrong at. This is what y 'all get it wrong at. Boxing, I do take personally because that is my job. That's my livelihood and that's all that I do. Boxing, anything you say about me up in boxing, I take personally because that is my life. I don't have another life outside of boxing. Let me ask you a question. So you are above reproach. Nobody can have an opinion about you. No, you can have an opinion. But then why you get upset if I got an opinion?

1:09:46I didn't get upset. I still came on here and talked to you.

1:09:49Shannon Sharpe:But you took a personal shot in your tweet. Shakur took a personal shot. He took a personal shot because after the Tiafemo fight, Ocho and I said, Ocho, I said, he fabulous. He was sensational tonight. I had him taken all the rounds. He didn't get knocked out, right? I said, but his fights don't excite me, and I wouldn't spend no money. Oh, yeah. But, see, there again, see, this is what I want you guys to realize, and I've spoken this to the guys who I'm cool with, and even, like, some of the commentators. y 'all say stuff like that and other people and then it could affect other people like you saying that can make other people be like i'm not going to spend my money to go and teach the court fight he can take that very offensive because you do have a big platform and people do love uncle shannon you know what i'm saying so he can take that he can take that personally but it's like i think you just should have said it don't it don't excite me but then when you like oh it don't incite me and I ain't gonna spend my money to go.

1:10:46It's like, you know that the money that people pay for the fight goes into

1:10:50Shannon Sharpe:his pocket. But Carissa, if somebody says, you know, look, I think Shannon's a phenomenal tight end, but he just don't block. It just don't do it for me. I can't take that personal. That is someone's opinion. I offered an opinion. That's it. I said he was great. I think that sometimes with y 'all opinions, y 'all just like go. Sometimes with like the podcast and stuff, sometimes y 'all say stuff and it's triggering. And I can apologize about saying what I said about your hip. You had triggered me, so my job is to trigger you back. That's it. But you said you didn't take it personal. No, no, no.

1:11:26I told her I took it personal. I said, I take anything you say about me in boxing personal. I told you that. I said that. You talking about boxing? Oh, Clarissa can't do this. Boxing this, boxing that. Oh, he's talking about me because boxing is all that I have.

1:11:39Shannon Sharpe:But you overlook all the other stuff I said, that you're the greatest, that you were sensational, that you were two-time Olympic champion. So all the good stuff that I said, you set that to the side and just focus on the one thing that I said that you couldn't beat Roley. So all the 15 great things I said. No, you didn't say I couldn't beat Roley. You said Roley gonna knock me. I didn't say Roley was gonna knock you out. I said Roley would beat you. Yes, I believe he would stop you. Yes, in a 12-round fight. Yes, I believe Roley would stop you. So did you say that? No, I said he would beat you.

1:12:07Shannon Sharpe:But I do believe he would stop you. Stop you was a knockout, right? TKO, KO, whatever you want to do. Hey, they throw the towel in, whatever you want to use. No, no, no, and no. No, that's not it. But y 'all know that I got mad love for y 'all. Y 'all know this. The fact that you own let us know that. So we appreciate you coming on. Yeah, I got mad love for y 'all. You know what I'm saying? We were the only show that came on after your last fight. We talked about your last fight, but you didn't tweet nothing about that. No, I thought y 'all had put up congrats or something, but did y 'all? No, I thought you did.

1:12:46I think I did retweet it. No?

1:12:47Shannon Sharpe:No. And you didn't say, man, okay, y 'all go watch Nightcap, Unc and Ocho. They were talking about your girl good. You didn't say that. I was trending. Listen, y 'all know I rock with y 'all, but I'm still trending now. Why are you writing down? Carissa, think about what we said. I think I seen it, but I thought I had retweeted it or said something. But, no, look, I love beeping in with y 'all. I love talking boxing with y 'all. I just know that when, like, come to me, I'm more of a, it's all in the opinion until it's fact. And when I hear y 'all talk about things like it's facts, it be pissing me off because it's like, one, you never know until it happens.

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1:17:38Shannon Sharpe:The greatest woman of all time. So you bypass that and say, well, he said, Rolly gonna beat me. that's a fighter's mentality I'm like wait a minute now

1:17:51Joe Johnson:matter of fact you like to knock me out or stop me part I was really pissed then you really tricked me then hold on go ahead Ocho Clarissa tell tell Uncle I whooped Shakur please Ocho you gotta stop Come on, come on, Twente. Wait a minute. You say you can beat Andre Ward. Now you can beat him Shakur. Is it like the light-skinned guys for you or something? Hey, Clarissa, spar Ocho.

1:18:24Shannon Sharpe:Clarissa, can you spar Ocho? Yeah. I promise you, I will spar Ocho. That's what I'm talking about. That's a match I can get. That's something I can get behind. I can get behind that. So what do you think I'll win? You think Ocho going to beat me up too? I got you. I got you. God damn, mama. I got you on that one.

1:18:43Joe Johnson:Hold on, you got, hold on, you got Wally, but she'll have me, y 'all.

1:18:47Shannon Sharpe:I got Clarissa on this one. Nah, I'm sorry, Ocho. See, you see how you do me? Okay, okay. Question, though, real question. She said she gonna study. She said she gonna piece you up. You about her side. Y 'all about the same side. You about 185. She said she walks around at 185. I got Clarissa.

1:19:04Joe Johnson:Hey, the weight don't matter when it comes to skill. You hear me? Oh. The weight don't matter. Clarissa, you heard what he said?

1:19:10Shannon Sharpe:He said he got better skills than you, Clarissa. That's what he said. And you say, what are we doing? Why are you putting words in my mouth? But you know what, though? I have seen Ocho's spar, and I've seen them work out. And like I said, I would love to see what he think about me inside the ring. And I can guarantee him, like, man, we better watch what you say about that damn girl, because that girl be swinging. She be landing. And I'm fast as lightning, baby. I'm fast as lightning. Did you see the fight? Yes. Did you see the fight? Yes. Oh, my God. Listen, I'm going to toot my own horn, but I ain't beat a bitch up like that in a long time.

1:19:46Like, I mean, talk about just the straw.

1:19:47Shannon Sharpe:Did you save any of that for Ocho in the sparring session? I tell Ocho, give me about April, me and him to spar. I'm going to be right there. We're going to have night camp. Hey, night camp from Clarissa's training camp. Ocho go spar. Yeah. Couple rounds.

1:20:06Joe Johnson:Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Matter of fact, do me a favor, right? Hey, Clarissa, I want a running clock, right? Yeah. I want a running clock. I don't want no three minutes. I don't want no 30-second rest. I want a running clock. I want four rounds. Huh? You think you Floyd Mayweather, huh? No, I mean, that's just the way I train. That's the way. When I train with boots, that's what you do. So you want a four-minute round? Yeah, four-minute round. No, no, I just want a running clock. What does that mean? Like, just let the clock run? Yeah, just let the clock run. So you get to beat him up as long as you want to, Clarissa.

1:20:36He won't. He won't doghouse rules.

1:20:39Joe Johnson:Yeah, dog house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I need, I need, hold on. I need four different bodies. How old are you to go Joe? Huh? How old is he to go Joe? Age don't matter. The age don't matter when it comes to skill. How old are you? Age don't matter when it comes to skill. 58? 47. 58? Hey, you know what they call me in the gym? What? They call me hella hands. Would you fast? Would you got quick hands? No, it feel like you're fighting two people. So are you sure you want to get in the ring with me? I don't know if you sure you want to get in the ring with me. Oh, set it up, mom. Set it up.

1:21:13Joe Johnson:Set it up. Set it up, mom. Yeah. Set it up. I'm ready. He got some. He's dropping the hook when he's throwing. He's dropping the hook already. He's wearing that shoulder. I'm ready. Hey, I'm good. When it's coming, the elbow's going to be up. Don't worry about it. The elbow's going to be up when it's coming. It's coming. See, I don't think he got good head movement because his head little. But my head little too. See that? Here, here. Hey. Hey, we got to do that. All right. She said.

1:21:36Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, yeah.

1:21:38Joe Johnson:to go like mid to late April? April? Okay, April, we gonna be... I'm in Atlanta. Oh, you down the street. I'm in Atlanta.

1:21:49Shannon Sharpe:I know where you live, but I'm saying where you gonna be training out of? I'm fighting again probably in July, August. I was supposed to piece up Shadesha, but she's fighting against the girl that I beat already, so I guess we gotta put her on the back runner for right now. So, I think I'm fighting again in July, August, if we can and lock in this fight with another girl. There's some people. Hey, hold on. What's going on with you and Chris Cyborg? Because she's been commenting on a lot of the posts. Oh, yeah.

1:22:16Joe Johnson:Why she want to fight? She want to fight. I mean, what do you think about that? She's a bum.

1:22:22Shannon Sharpe:Oh, Lord. Have mercy, Carissa. I don't even know. No, I'm so serious. She came out of a box to save her life. Well, she said she won't smoke now. She's a clout chaser. Tell her to fight it. She want me to come all the way down to 147 and lose my ass and a little bit of chips that i got to fight against her no ma 'am if she really want to fight she can meet me up at 165 i would i would knock her out easy chris cyborg cannot box and she know that she says my name because she's not relevant no more she's a loser she's a loser she's not relevant no more so she's got to say my name but she man i got pictures where chris cyborg done walked out with my belts done been there she's a fan but now she's want to be a hater because let me tell you how soft these girls is.

1:23:08Let me tell you something. The guy who throw Floyd fights, right? He came to me and said, Clarissa, we want to do a fight with you. We want to have you on the undercard with Floyd Mayer with her, but we got to find you a good opponent. I said, okay, who you thinking about? He got name people off, name people off. And he's like, oh, well, she not that good. She not that good. We want you to have a good fight. I said, well, they had just did Francis Ngannou versus Anthony Joshua. I said, what about Chris Cyborg? This is back when she was my friend. He said, okay. He was going to pay me$3 million and was going to pay Chris$2 million.

1:23:44$3 million for me,$2 for her. At that 154 pounds, this was like a couple years ago. I called her my good girl, Chris. Hey, girl, I got some money for us. I got some money for us. Me and you fight, exhibition, whatever rounds, blah, blah, blah. She was all cool, right? Then I was like, we're going to fight at 154 She said 154 She agreed, all this stuff She talked to the guy She going to tell him, I put him in contact She like, oh no, she got to fight me at 147

1:24:16Joe Johnson:What? Nah She messed up the money First of all, I could have said fight me at 160 I ain't got to lose nothing You, and this was a couple years ago She talking about some, no, I come to 47 And then she said she knocked me out and then started this whole rumor that I'm scared of her. Like, I don't have to be scared of a girl that I sparred one time. Four rounds. We supposed to do six. And the four rounds after I kicked her ass in front of her boxing coach, Jason, she was damn near about to die and cry inside the ring. Literally. And I boxed her in some damn Jordans. I didn't even have my boxing shoes.

1:24:54I had no mouthpiece. And I wore her gloves and her headgear. and I tore Chris Cyborg ass up and she know that. We never sparred again. Never sparred again. Just that one time and that's when you know you got somebody. They won't even call you back for sparring no more.

1:25:10Joe Johnson:I tell you what. Matter of fact, I got one more thing. Clarissa, you know what? This past weekend, right, I married a very good friend of mine. So now I'm I can officiate weddings. So I'm asking you ahead of time when you and Papoose decide to jump the broom, allow me to officiate your wedding. If you don't know, you can go to my instagrams and you can see where i married gary owens and his and his wife brianna johnson before i got on here i just yeah congratulations yeah i appreciate that so right now uh i'm a man i'm a man of the cloth uh i'm uh the honorable bishop ocho so at any point you guys cross the room please allow me to officiate your wedding i ain't gonna charge much i ain't gonna charge much you know what and i mean this like so humbly we have such a long line with that Like, everybody wants to officiate our wedding.

1:26:01I don't know how everybody knows we're going to get married one day. But everybody just say it, and they see it, and they say it all the time. And I would say that it's a long line, Ocho.

1:26:12Joe Johnson:No, no, no. Okay, you know what? Let me fight everybody that want to officiate your wedding. And whoever come out, win. Whoever come out that goddamn will win. That's how we're going to do it. You're going to be fighting against church people. Ocho, you crazy. Yeah, hey, baby, listen. Sometimes the Lord say you got to backslide. You got to take it what you want. Hey, the Lord say that it's a time for peace and a time for war. Then I'm going to war by that.

1:26:36Shannon Sharpe:I'll tell you what, Clarissa. I know you're going to talk to it. I know you're going to talk to Jacor. But ask Jacor if he wants to come on and explain what did I say, my opinion. Why did I upset him so much? Tell Jacor to stop ducking me. The 5-2-3-4? Yes.

1:26:52Joe Johnson:Tell Jacor to stop ducking me. I'll ask him. But I want to also ask you, too. What do you mean by you and Shakur can compare accolades at the end of y 'all careers? What do you mean by that? I know, and you're a Hall of Famer, correct? In football.

1:27:12Shannon Sharpe:So how would y 'all compare accolades? I'm saying when his career's over, when he retired, we'll look and see what he's done. And if he's recognized as one of the greats, if he's recognized with Leonard and Pacquiao and Roberto Duran and Tommy Hearns and Floyd Mayweather. But you know he will be, though, right? Let's see. We said this. No, but I'm saying like sometimes you just see it and you know. We said the same thing about Jermaine Taylor, didn't we? Remember when he beat Bernard Hopkins? We said the same thing. He was on that trajectory, right? So let's see how it plays out. You got to let a career career.

1:27:45Shannon Sharpe:You can't get halfway through it because we've seen guys start out great and things happen. And I pray nothing happens to Shakur. But we have to let the career career before we do that. This is long. This is a longevity thing. Like, Shakur, Olympic silver medalist to turn pro. I believe he's three-division world champion. Am I correct? Probably so. Yeah. He's probably three or four. I don't even know which one. I hope he don't crucify me for that. I need to learn my brother's stuff. But I will say this.

1:28:21Shakur is already a Hall of Famer right now. with what he's accomplished right now. So let me ask you a question.

1:28:26Shannon Sharpe:Is he one of the best five lightweights to ever fight? So is he better than Duran? He better than Sugar Shane? He's better than Sugar Ray Leonard? He better than Floyd Mayweather? Sugar Shane mostly? At that division. Pacquiao, at that division. I think Shakur is a better. Now, see, I like Pacquiao. He's very aquifer and all that stuff. Shakur boxing skills. No, come on now. skills is what, here's the thing now. If right now, if he were to retire right now, is he better than Shane Mosley? Is he better than Floyd? No, no, no. He can't retire right now. Is he better than those guys at the lightweight division?

1:29:06No, not right now. No, at the lightweight, not right now. See, we talking about you talking about these guys' full careers versus his career, which is right in the middle of the window.

1:29:13Shannon Sharpe:So now you understand why I said when his career is over let's have a discussion? Well, I'm telling you Shakur is gonna be considered like the Floyd Mayweather in just a year or two. You know that, right? Because he gonna fight the guy so y 'all say that he can't beat. And if he can get the fights because... But he won't weight clauses. He won't rehydration clauses and all that. Which is smart. What you mean? It's smart. Listen, these motherfuckers gaining 30 and 40 pounds after they weigh in. This is crazy. They always did that. They always rehydrated and refueled up. I didn't know anything about a rehydration clause until Tank and Ryan fought.

1:29:54Shannon Sharpe:I don't remember Sugar Ray and Duran and all those guys having rehydration clause. So how do you feel about Tank having one on Ryan? You think if he didn't have it on Ryan, that Ryan would have won? But that's what I'm saying. But didn't they fight at a catch weight?

1:30:07Joe Johnson:No, he just had the rehydration clause.

1:30:10Shannon Sharpe:But I'm saying, if I walk around at 180, I make 147. I made the weight. The weight said 147. So now you want me to walk around I walk around at 180 I make 147 Now you got a problem If I go up So now I got to stay at 150? Well that's 3 pounds Or 10 So what the hell I think Ryan could only go at what 5, 6 pounds? Which is dumb Because a gallon of water is 8 pounds That's not even safe for a fighter But I will say this You see Terrence went up and fought against Canelo Right? The smaller man going up three different way of classes. And we never heard Terrence say rehydration clause. And the only reason that we didn't hear that is because Terrence Crawford is a big guy himself.

1:31:03Naturally. Shakur is not naturally. So Shakur is not big like that. Like Shakur has been small our whole lives.

1:31:11Shannon Sharpe:Floyd has been small. Floyd ain't never had a rehydration clause. Floyd probably walks around at 150. That's why it was so easy for him to be great. I mean, he's a great. his skill level don't get me wrong but floyd probably walks around at 150 152 so making 147 was nothing to him but floyd is way bigger than shakur like shakur is actually a little guy i think he's fought the olympics at was it 126 i mean that's yeah we're talking about 126 pounds and now he's at a couple years later now he don't only fought as big as 140 that's 14 pounds I know. But as you get older, Clarissa, you know the body just naturally put on.

1:31:52Yeah, it feels out more.

1:31:53Shannon Sharpe:It'll feel out. It feels out more. But I feel like with Shaquara, him being, I think, 27, 28, that he hasn't seen how strong he really is yet and seen his power in everything. I'm turning 31 next week, and I feel like my last fight was the strongest I've ever been in my entire life. So what did you fight in the Olympics? Where did you fight at, Clarissa? What was your weight in the Olympics? 165, 75 kilos. So you've been fighting at your natural weight the whole damn time. Well, I went down to 54 and became undisputed, and then I fought at 60. Yeah, but you know, like most guys, most guys when they fight, they fight like Roy Jones.

1:32:39Shannon Sharpe:Roy was a junior welterweight, and then he went to middle, then he went to super middle, Then he went to light And then he took the belt from Ruiz So normally you see You look at Sugar Ray Lightweight, Supra, move on up 47 And then he fought Haglitt middleweight at 160 But for you I don't know if I've heard this before Is that you 165 And you've been basically fighting at So you in your wheelhouse You in your sweet spot Ain't nobody gonna beat you at that weight Well, that's the thing So I started my professional career at 168 Then I went down to 60 And then I went down to 54 I would have went down to 47 To fight against Cecilia Brockes But she wouldn't fight me That was who was number one at the time At that weight class So I said it at 54 I went back to 60 Then I went Then it wasn't a girl to fight at 68 Now I'm at 75 I'm just jumping around Would you go back down to 54 If you could fight a fight at 54 Would you go back down to 54 The lowest I can go I believe is 60 now It's because I put on so much Muscle so much muscle and strength to fight at 75.

1:33:43If these girls at 75, I'm telling you, these girls is huge, I'm telling you.

1:33:47Shannon Sharpe:Well, if they get to make a fit at 75, they might be walking around at 95, 200, Clarissa. I know I fought against a girl. I ain't going to say her name because I don't want to give her business out. But she walked around at 215. And me and her fought at 175.

1:34:04Joe Johnson:She walked around at what? 215. I have never been 200 nothing in my life.

1:34:13Shannon Sharpe:I agree with you. I think the thing is once you get to that weight, you get comfortable because I think that's what hurt Roy. Roy put on that weight to be the heavyweight champ. And with the heavyweight and trying to come back down. And he was never the same after that.

1:34:26Joe Johnson:Yeah. I think that because I do plan on going back down to have some more big fights. At 60 though. To 60. Okay. And I will say that it's about how you lose weight. Everybody want to spend only two weeks in, well, two months, three months, four months.

1:34:45Shannon Sharpe:No, you got to be 16 to 20 weeks. Right, but I'm saying like they want to spend three months and two months and just spend all that time losing weight and getting ready for the fight. You understand what I'm saying? And it's like you need to lose weight the correct way to where your body is not shocked when you get back down there. So I have a very strong nutrition team I've been with since 2018 The same team that Terrence Crawford have And they've been telling me For years I'm talking about years ago They was like Clarissa you can get the 147 And I told them they are smoking something But they are Hey you might have to get on that Zipic If you want to get the 47 Clarissa you might have to get on that Zipic Or that Majorno

1:35:29Joe Johnson:Try Zepatide or something Hey matter of fact You know, you could put me on, can I be the head of your nutrition team? No. Oh, so you looking for another job? You trying to start working with Uncle Shemmy? He getting on your nerves? I got about 50 lamb jobs, sis. I'm trying to be an octopus. Oh, you know what? Listen, I heard. This is what I learned. They said in order to be a millionaire, you got to have at least seven incomes. You looking around to have seven incomes, ain't you? I got way more than that, sis. Hold on now. I know you got the millions, but you trying to get to the tens and the twins and the 30 millions, ain't you?

1:36:00Joe Johnson:I'm just trying to have my hand in a little bit of everything. That's all. That's all. That's all. It ain't even about the money because I ain't spending nothing no way. I heard you don't spend money on your jewelry. Oh, I don't play? Well, now I dabble in. I dabble in. I dip and dabble a little bit now. Now you know. 90K right here, buddy. Let me see. Let me see what that is. What that is, sis? This is a Bulgari. There's only two of them made in the world. Bulgari. You got money. You got. Well, I ain't got no jewelry on tonight. I only wore this one today. And I got like a little Gucci ring. This ain't nothing.

1:36:36Joe Johnson:Hey, can you do me one favor too? Because I got two people that have been ducking. They've been ducking me for a while. Okay, you said Shaqorba ducking him? Who else? Oh, yeah. You know, he don't want any hands. Tell Andre Ward stop running for me, right? Okay, so that's two people. Who else? Tell Bud I said I'm here, man. Tell Bud I said I'm here, man. If you don't leave twin alone, hey, he can do something.

1:37:00Shannon Sharpe:But Bud really like that, Clarissa. He don't really understand. Bud really, really like that.

1:37:06Joe Johnson:I done been in the ring with Bud. I know what you do.

1:37:11Shannon Sharpe:Bud, Bud, do anything. You want to rouse, Bud, or rouse. Y 'all better stay away from them rings, bro. Did y 'all see what Keyshawn did to Blueface today? I saw that.

1:37:20Joe Johnson:You saw that? I did. You saw that? God damn. Damn. Listen, I will say that that's one thing that Blueface is doing right. He going and getting the actual work. I can respect that. But golly, he must have hit Keyshawn with a shot, and Keyshawn went crazy on him.

1:37:37Shannon Sharpe:I mean, straight body shot, hey, he was everything. Pull counter. I was like, damn. Yeah, it was like a professional fight. I thought he was fighting for Mane Ortiz again.

1:37:46Joe Johnson:Yes, yes. And the funny thing, too, about it, when you go against the pros at that level and you think you can fight and once they decide to turn up, it becomes overwhelming and it's nothing you can do. Nope.

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