In short
NBA playoff debate and player credit (focus on Tyrese Haliburton’s lack of respect), plus sports talk about Bradley Beal’s fit on different teams, and a lot of off-court banter: workout/bench-press bragging, a knee injury update, and friendly wagers.
Guests
Unc, Ocho (Iso Joe), and Iso Joe (plus “Ojo”/Joe as the host/participant). Backgrounds: They’re former pro athletes/players who discuss NBA teams and schemes from firsthand experience, including Iso Joe’s playing days (Phoenix Suns era with Nash, Stoudemire, Marion) and Unc’s coaching/locker-room perspective.
Key claims
Haliburton deserves more credit but is judged unfairly because Luka/Steph/other stars dominate; he must be more aggressive early. Beal’s scoring looks better on bad teams than on contenders because efficient shot selection is required.
Notable examples
Nash/Mario Stoudemire/Sean Marion as Phoenix’s “efficient” model; Rick Carlisle’s triple-stagger scheme disrupting OKC; Dort’s defense limiting Haliburton’s rhythm; Magic/LeBron “switch” moments; OKC’s road success and Pacers home-court advantage.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VONBA Trade Talks and Bradley Beal's Future
0:00 to 0:34
The hosts discuss the latest NBA trade rumors involving Jalen Green and Bradley Beal's performance on different teams.
“When you're moving like I do, you don't always get a lot of lead time.”
NBA Trade Talks and Bradley Beal's Future
2:11 to 8:01
The hosts discuss the latest NBA trade rumors involving Jalen Green and Bradley Beal's performance on different teams.
“Reports say the Suns will look to reroute Jalen Green to another team.”
The Impact of Team Dynamics on Player Performance
8:01 to 12:11
An in-depth conversation on how a player's performance can vary based on team dynamics and the importance of efficiency.
“Look, I mean, because you got like ideal climate.”
Florida Athletes and the Warm Weather Advantage
12:11 to 14:00
Discussion on how Florida's climate contributes to producing exceptional athletes across various sports.
“Yeah, you're going to have to break that scar tissue up, though, Joe.”
Florida Athletes and the Warm Weather Advantage
14:48 to 15:18
Discussion on how Florida's climate contributes to producing exceptional athletes across various sports.
“Hey, sports fans, your away game road trip doesn't start at the kickoff.”
Gym Talk: Weightlifting Skills
16:20 to 18:09
Discussion about weightlifting techniques and experiences in the gym.
“Yeah, Joe said, hey, they must have forgot.”
Friendly Competition and Banter
18:09 to 20:48
Light-hearted banter and competitive spirit among the hosts regarding workouts.
“You don't do no hamstring curls, no leg extension?”
Meeting Highlights and Networking
20:48 to 24:45
Sharing experiences from recent meetings and building relationships.
“It don't matter how much you in the hole.”
Cash and Pool Plans
24:45 to 28:36
Conversation about debts, pool plans, and personal finances.
“Well, since you do all that, can I get my money?”
Respect for Halliburton
30:44 to 32:28
Discuss the challenges Tyrese Halliburton faces in gaining respect in the league.
“Weezy had some advice from Hallett ahead of game two.”
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Halliburton's Development and Game Strategy
32:29 to 34:38
Examine Halliburton's potential and need for aggressive play in crucial moments.
“if we talk about, you know, you heard this overrated stuff, right?”
Impact of Defense on Halliburton
34:39 to 36:29
Analyze how defensive strategies, especially from Lou Dort, affect Halliburton's gameplay.
“So I expect a different Pacers team to show up in game three, guys, being at home, playing in front of their own crowd, a lot more confidence.”
Rick Carlisle's Coaching Influence
36:30 to 37:45
Explore Rick Carlisle's coaching tactics and their potential impact on the Pacers.
“He could be the right man to elevate Halliburton's game and the Pacers to a championship-caliber team, Isaiah Thomas said.”
Predictions for Game Three
37:46 to 39:22
Discuss expectations and strategies for the Pacers in their upcoming game.
“They just got to protect the home court.”
NBA Tickets and Game Atmosphere
39:23 to 42:01
Lighthearted conversation about ticket prices and the atmosphere of NBA games.
“They going home get some of that country kitchen, J.O.”
Lifting Strength and Competition
42:01 to 45:34
The hosts engage in a lively discussion about lifting weights, personal competition, and individual strengths.
“That's why I know he don't know nothing about it.”
Ping Pong Challenges and Bragging Rights
45:35 to 49:12
The conversation turns to playful competition in ping pong and other sports, highlighting past experiences and skills.
“Man, Ocho, I don't even really lift like that no more, Ocho.”
Ping Pong Challenges and Bragging Rights
49:28 to 50:08
The conversation turns to playful competition in ping pong and other sports, highlighting past experiences and skills.
“Copenhagen, saluting American grit, proven since 1822.”
Transcript
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2:11Shannon Sharpe:Reports say the Suns will look to reroute Jalen Green to another team. I can see that. That makes sense. Hey, I need a draft, huh? Hold on. I'm tripping. Now, you trade KD for Jalen Green. Now you want to ship Jalen Green somewhere else. And then I see reports that they also about a buyout with Bradley Beal. What the hell going on? Because, Ojo, Bradley Beal and LeBron are one of the two players, two players that have no trades. So you can't move Bradley Beal where he doesn't want to go. So the best thing is like, you know what? Let's just go ahead and bite this bullet, get up off this, and move in a different direction.
2:52So how would Bradley Beal look down here in Miami? Since he is a prolific scorer, he is a scorer. He's going to get 80%, 90 % of his money. He can look good wherever he chooses to go. Come on, hey. Let me holler. Let me take it.
3:05Shannon Sharpe:Man, Ted's trying to get people in Miami. Hey, listen, we can use a score like that. Now, look at what he did on the Wizards, and look what happened. It's too many people touching the guy. It don't take nothing to be a good score on a bad team. You talking about the Eagles? No, I'm saying it don't take anything. Brad, you know this. On a bad team, it don't take much to be a top-notch score, because who cares? You're getting your eyes beat out anyway, so don't nobody care. That's the one where they'll say, I said that one time to Coach Patino one time. I was talking about Paul and I was talking about Antoine.
3:42And that's when they were beating the hell out of themselves. And I was one of the reporters. I said, so Paul and Antoine, you know, they got their numbers tonight, Coach. And he turned to me. I was just embarrassed as I've ever been. He said, turn to me. He said, numbers are for losers. I don't give a shit about them scoring no baskets at all. So you're right. in the NBA on a bad team, you can look really good scoring the basketball because you're the only thing to have. But when you plug that into a good team, you get wins because of that. And you can see what happened with Bradley Beal. He leaves Washington and goes to, everybody said, oh, they're going to be in.
4:21They're going to be in because he didn't score. He goes now to Phoenix. He ain't shooting that way no more. He ain't getting what you'd say, Joe, back and then he getting touches like that. He's going to get something out of it.
4:34Shannon Sharpe:Because you don't get to take all them bad shots. You don't get to come down and say, you know what? I'm going to get me 25, 30 shots a night, no matter what. On a good team with other good players, it's not like that. Especially when you have multiple good players on said teams. Now, maybe if he goes, if it could be a situation like OKC, J-Dubs and Shea going to get the line and share the shots. Like tonight, Shea was 8 of 27, J-Dub was 7 of 20. Now, they got 47 of the 87 shots. Two guys took over half the shots. Okay? But now you put Bradley Bill, you put it with KD and Book, ain't enough bad shots to go around.
5:13Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. They're gonna be looking at you crazy. You come down taking bad shots, some of the bad shots that you were able to take and get away with when you were with the Wizards. I agree. When you're playing with other great players, man, you have to try to find a way to be efficient. I'll take y 'all guys back to 2005, 2004, when I was playing with the Phoenix Sun. Nash was the MVP. You had a, Mario Stoudemire was a premier all-star. Sean Marion was a premier all-star. And as your fourth option, which was me, I wanted to be efficient. I shot, I shot 48 % from the three. And every time I took a shot, I wanted to make it count because I know I wasn't going to get many of them.
5:55Shannon Sharpe:You know what I mean? I wanted to be. I did. I knew. Listen, I knew the ones that I did get, Brad, I had to be. Yeah, damn it, you better make it. Inefficient. You hear me? So I did what I had to do that year, and I only got a chance to play on that with them guys with Nash for one year, and I thought we had a special team, but unfortunately, we got some new ownership that came in and thought otherwise. But Joe, that made it possible for you to go to another team, though. because you had highlighted what you were able to do on that particular team with not a lot of shots. And I think that's why you were able to go someplace else and all of a sudden, you know, you get the ISO Joe thing.
6:37Shannon Sharpe:But look, it goes back to what Unc said. When I got to Atlanta, my first couple years, I'm averaging 20, 25, 26 a game. But, hell, that's empty calorie because we're getting a nosebleed beat about. Hey Joe, when you was in Phoenix, Stoudemire was the five? Yeah man, he was way before his time, Ojo. The boy was so raw when he came in, he came in straight out of high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He came in, man, I'm talking about just running through cats. He was going through you. There wasn't no around you, he was going through you. I'm talking about, I seen him go head to head with Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Chris Webber.
7:13Shannon Sharpe:I'm talking about the elites. That boy was special, man. He was special. oh that's your partner that's Lake Wells that's all you holla about is Lake Wells yeah Florida Lake Wells Florida ain't Lake Wells Florida yeah that must be you mean Lakeland Lakeland or Lake Wells cause he always holla about him Roy Jones all this oh okay okay okay okay yeah that's right up the road how do all these damn athletes come out of damn Florida oh it's the water baby It ain't nothing but the water. You know, listen, we produce them different down here. We produce them different down here. The weather. Look at the best athletes.
7:56Shannon Sharpe:They come out of what? Warm weather, California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana. Look, I mean, because you got like ideal climate. And you know us, we like warm weather. We don't like the cold. I like it. We like warm weather. And for the most part, you can do a lot of things a lot longer. Yes. So, you know, you get warm weather a lot longer, and you don't get those, you know, those long winters and short summers. You get long summers. But if you go back, look at basketball. Let's just take basketball, especially football. It ain't even close. All the football players from the outside. California, Texas, Louisiana, Georgia.
8:45Shannon Sharpe:Florida South Carolina stuff like that but I think that's what it has to do it has to do with if you go back and look at it look at where most of the athletes come from damn I was from North Carolina I'm sorry come on you get a little back I guarantee you North Carolina might have the greatest basketball allotment of basketball players ever put together more than Chicago oh hell yeah I'm taking Jordan Jordan where is he from y 'all got a few well you hey it used to be New York you know New York was the hot man back in Dominique Dominique where's he from North Carolina Buck Williams Dominique James Worthy that Sleepy Floyd David Thompson there's a ton of guys you don't even talk about Bob McAdoo one of the greatest of all time he's from Greensboro I mean there were so many great players It's like, hey, David Thompson, that people won't even talk about it anymore.
9:48He was before Jordan. He was damaged. I tell you what, I was gardening one time. And I was swiveling and I was going back and forth. And somebody said, lob, and I'm gardening pretty good. And then I turned around and I looked. I tell you what, I can tell you what size shoe he wore. Because I was a damn bobbing damn feet. That's all I can see.
10:08Shannon Sharpe:Shannon, he wore size 13. That's all I saw. Iso is still the man, the big three. Yeah, he like that. He like that. He like that. Hey, he had 30 points, 10 rebounds in opening to come back. And now he followed that up with a 29-point performance, but you kind of banged up your knee. Yeah. You OK? I got a deep thigh contusion. He knee me right above my knee. Oh. Hey, I got something for that. I got something for that, yo. Man, you know, them deep thigh bruises, man, they lingering. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey. I'm 44, man. You're going to take me a little while. I know how to get it out, Joe. I know how to get it out.
10:49Don't worry about it. Listen to me now. You got onions at home? All right. Get you some onions, right? Kill the onion. Put on the stove. Boil some hot water. Put the onion in the water. Let it boil a little bit, right? Boil. Take it out. Cut the onion in half. Get some Vicks VapoRub. Get some Vicks Vapor Rub. Put the Vicks Vapor Rub on the contusion, right? Take the onion. Put the onion on there. Then wrap the onion around the air on top of it, right? And let it sit there. Let it sit there for 27 minutes. Not 28 minutes, not 26 minutes. 27 minutes. Then take it off. I guarantee you feel better the next day.
11:34Shannon Sharpe:I promise you. I'll tell you don't laugh. Ojo, my grandma called me after the game. She said his little ass did that shit on purpose, didn't he? Yeah. She didn't like it. She ain't like it. So I'm telling Rio, my grandma ain't like it, brother. She thought it was a dirty play. But it was a great game, fellas. Myself and on behalf of myself and the Detroit Amps, man, we just trying to squeeze these wins out week to week. And obviously we understood the hype that was coming into, you know, this week's game. And everybody stepped up, man, and done with it. And then we done what we had to do to get a win, for sure.
12:09Shannon Sharpe:man when the next weekend when y 'all coming to Miami we there this upcoming weekend Ocho wait in Miami wait I mean what's the date Sunday it's Sunday okay okay so y 'all I'm gonna do what I can to nurse this thing up throughout the week and I'm gonna keep them updated and we'll see how I feel by Friday Saturday. Yeah, you're going to have to break that scar tissue up, though, Joe. You got to get that scar tissue broke up. It's sore. And I got on that plane and came right back here. So, you know, it kind of swole up on me on that plane a little bit. But I'm in a little pain over here, but I'll be all right.
12:52Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, you good. You good. I told you. So what, Lance and Bees, Bees, what they were talking about? Man, listen, y 'all see the game? It was a good game. They came to play. They came to play. It wasn't, I mean, but they forgot about ISO, Joe. They forgot about ISO. Hey, listen, tell them they can go with plan C if plan B was playing me, man. I'm the one. I'm the one. Yeah, yeah. Stop that talk. I'll just let you know. Man, y 'all know what's going on around here. Stop playing. Stop that talk, man. Stop playing, man. When you're moving like I do, trips don't always come together weeks in advance.
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16:24Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, Joe said, hey, they must have forgot. And sometimes, what do you say? Sometimes you got to pop out and show them. Ocho, Joe, Ocho blessed us with some workout, some more workout content. Take a look at this, Joe. Oh, that boy throwing that weight around. He making love to that weight, ain't he? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, unk. I touched my chest, right? And look how slow and controlled. Now, I know you're going to say, oh, he's spying, he's helping you out. Look how slow, though, Unk. Nice and slow so I can feel everything. That boy ain't playing. Hey, Joe, the spotter got some great shoulder work.
16:59Shannon Sharpe:He did some great shrugs in. Unk, what are you talking about, Unk? The guy can't touch the bar. I know that. Unk, listen to me. But a 315 heavy now, come on, man. That's what it's supposed to be. Hold on, listen to me. Stay with me real quick. Now, I know nobody's supposed to touch the bar, but I'm purposely going slow so you can see I'm controlling it, and it's really me. you're supposed to go slow I know that but get on my level that 315 ain't nothing to you huh no of course but look how big he is look at me you say we the same size I am now I am now I'm by 230 I'm going to be in the gym tomorrow I think you and Jim Jones should have a bench off listen hold on Hey, listen, don't do it like that.
17:51Listen, I'm in a class of my own when it comes to working out, when it comes to all that, you know? You're not stronger than me. I'm just trying to show you I'm almost where I need to be to compete with you. No, you're not. All right.
18:05Shannon Sharpe:But I like the fact that you're in the gym, you're working out. I mean, bro, you don't do no leg press? You don't do no hamstring curls, no leg extension? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, boy, you should see my legs. Hold on, let me show you. That boy walking around here looking like a waltz. Swamp. Hey, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. He look like a brown hornet. Hey, hold on, ump. Wait, you see that? Look at it. You see that? Hey, you see them thing? Hey, that's all, hey, that's all muscle, but, ump. See, like you been spending a lot of time walking on your hands, cause your arm's bigger than your legs. Oh, nah, nah, nah.
18:42Hey, ump, listen. Well, I'm a gazelle, you hear me? I'm a gazelle. Right now, I can give you a four, three, four, four, right now. 3-4 what? Huh? 3-4 what? I say 4-3-4-4. Come on. Yeah. Hey, you got to remember, I'm built for speed, man. Ain't no point in having big old legs. You were built for speed. You're not anymore. Oh, no, no. I'm still fast. Name 4-3 fast.
19:07Shannon Sharpe:No, no. Oh, come on, Joe. Hey. He's not. Hey. What? I ain't saying you can't move. I know you can move. I can move. I can move, Joe. Yeah. But I'm saying that's what I think. I think you, I think what you call them, you, y 'all should have a bench off, a curl. What else you do in the gym, Mojo? He put his shanksy on. He ready now. Huh? What else you do in the gym? You bench? I do everything. I do everything. Curls, triceps? Yeah, triceps, everything. See, my trainer, he compete. Heat. My trainer, he did Olympia, I forgot what he did, I think 2021. So he put me through the works. So I'm getting all the right work.
19:58Shannon Sharpe:What is the physique? 212? Classic? I got to ask him. I'm not sure. He complete, like, what is it like Phil, Heath, and Ronnie? What's that? That's open. Yeah, he's in the open, but he big to the motherfucker, boy. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's his name? Jose, I tagged him on the video. Oh, okay. I don't know him. You know him, Jordan? Hey, what's up with your shaggy you got on? What you got going on? Hey, I'm just trying to figure out if you're going to pay my money or not. Oh, okay. So that's what it is? That's what's up? Yeah. That's how you're showing up. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. I'm just feeling it.
20:44I just want to know if you're going to pay me what you owe me. You in the hole, brother. What you mean?
20:49Shannon Sharpe:Not only a hundred dollars. You in the hole. It don't matter how much you in the hole. You in the hole. So yo, unk, 59, honey. 59. Hey, hey, Joe, look what I got. Hey, hey, hey, hey, unk, hey, I need you to send me. I need you to send me my. Hey, unk, hey, send me my, send me my. Oh, that was yours. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, send me my award, please. All right. No, that's all right right there. Hey, Ocho. And you know the guy, the web is coming. Hey, I don't want to have to do nothing. Hey, we won hashtag awards. We won everything. No, no, no, no, no. What do you mean? I'm just going to keep it at his house.
21:37Shannon Sharpe:It ain't no big we. It's just big me. Hey. Hey, I got it. I already got my shisey on. Don't make me execute, man. Don't make me execute. Oh, Joe, you owe. I owe what? You owe Joe, you owe me. Hold on, the money ain't got nothing to do with the awards we winning. Yeah, dude. I'm holding them hostage. I'm holding them hostage. Okay, I'm going to have to come get them, man. Hey, ain't no problem. Hey,
22:06I'll come get them. Don't worry about it. I'm going to come get them. I don't know why. You don't want to pay people their money, man. I told you I'm going to pay you. I told you I'm going to pay you. Hold on. Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to me. I just got a new place. I want to furnish my place. What do they got to do with anything?
22:24Shannon Sharpe:What do I got to do? I want to furnish my place. Give me mine. Hold on. There, Joe. You going to press me by the$100? I'm going to mind. You going to be down my neck. You going to be down my neck for your life. Exactly. Keep it going, fellas. I got to go to the bathroom. Hold on, Joe. You going to press me by the$100? Yeah, man. It's the principle, Ocho. You know, if I let you slide with that honey, then you get in the hole with me again. Guess what? You're going to try to slide with it again. I got to... Hey. Listen, I'm coming. I'll be in Miami this upcoming week now. I hate to have to pull up at your house because I got your address now.
22:59Shannon Sharpe:I hate to have to pull up unannounced. I normally don't act like that. Hey, Joe. Hey, you pull up here, Joe. I'm going to have to do something to you, Joe.
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23:14Hey, when you come, bud, we got to hit tussies, man. All right. All right.
23:18Shannon Sharpe:All right. Hey, how was your trip, man? How was your trip? Good to see you back, partner. Oh, man. Hey, listen, cons was beautiful. It was beautiful, man. It was very enjoyable, man, being able to see how things get done, to see and meet the people in person who call, who give the green lights, who write the checks. And it was awesome. I took some really, really good meetings, man, and met some great people and started some good relationships. So I'm looking forward to those going really well in the future. So I represented myself and Nightcap very, very well. That's what's up, man. You look like you had a good time over there, partner.
23:58Yeah, yeah, I did. Every picture I took with everybody, I was on my tippy toes, too, bro. Hey, nah, they had me feeling like I was a midget. Oh, man. Yeah, I ain't never been over there, man. I'm going to have to see what this is like. It's nice. It's real nice. It's real nice. I go to Monaco, which is not that far. San Tropez is not that far. About an hour away. Oh, I know. You know, I only go to watch soccer. So this is my first time just going really out the country for a reason that had nothing to do with soccer. And I enjoyed it. Once I got there and got a better understanding of what it was all about, you know what?
24:32This is dope. And now I can't wait until next year. yeah I can't wait till I get my money who would like to have
24:43Shannon Sharpe:who would like to have a nightcap show 2025 podcast of the year it's the awards for creative excellence damn I appreciate that one thing about me boy hey when I go to the bathroom you know I piss excellence you hear me I piss excellence So I need that award so I can show them. Well, since you do all that, can I get my money? Go in the bathroom and get my money. Listen, they almost finished with my pool. As soon as my pool finished, whatever's left over. Come on, Joe. What I got to do? Joe. My kids want to swim, Unc. My daughter want to swim. So I got to... So my kids go without... So your kids...
25:30Unc, your kids grown. I got my three-year-old French Fryer. French Fryer, she want to swim. She want to swim with her sisters. And come on now. Y 'all got to, like, come on.
25:41Shannon Sharpe:So you saying when you get your pool done, you're going to get a man 5 ,900? Hey, once I finish the pool, I'm done. Y 'all can have whatever you want. You can have whatever you want. If you need extra, I give you that too. I'm going to tell you, you're going to have to pull up, man. I'm just going to keep it warm. I believe so. I believe so, Joe. I believe so. Hey, let me tell you something. You know about Florida, right? You know, Florida's an open carry state. Yeah. And I'm in Florida, and I got open carry. Okay. All right. And I ain't talking about no cooler either. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm just making sure you know before you...
26:14All right. Don't worry about it. All right. Hey, let me... Well, you know what? I'm going to auction off one of these. No, I don't... Wait. Are you auctioning off yours? Don't auction off mine. I said one of them. I got to have something to give my kids. Hey, as a matter of fact, let me go and put mine on the shelf.
26:38Hey, you know what? One thing about it, they sure take you for a joke, man. Let me go ahead and put that uniform on and let you know.
26:48Shannon Sharpe:He quick to holler about somebody taking it for a joke, a joke, Joey. He going to be in for it. Man, I think it's been longer than that. I ain't trying to be a business, but man, I'm talking about I've been hearing about this 5900, but I don't know how long? Hey. I suppose I'd have got my money in New Orleans. Hey, listen. I need my rewards. I'm going to give you two weeks. I'm going to give you, you got two weeks. That's it.
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30:43Shannon Sharpe:Yeah, don't do that. Weezy had some advice from Hallett ahead of game two. This is what he tweeted. He said, Hallie, you have to sweep these boys to get some real respect from these folks. Y 'all clearly walking on water and they act like y 'all surfing. Hang 10, dude, and make him ride your wave or drown. Ain't that a beach? Hmm. I like it. I mean, look, sometimes you could be a, think about it. You could be a great something and just happen to be in the wrong era. There's a lot of great NFL quarterbacks. But if you played in the Manning and the Tom Brady era, you ain't getting no credit. if you played in the Jordan, you were the guard.
31:21Shannon Sharpe:What guard got credit in the Jordan era in the 80s and that? What guard? Other than Magic in the 80s? And then once he hit the 90s, there wasn't nobody talking about nobody else but him. Yeah. You look at the – and Hallie is an unbelievable player. But when you got Luka and you still got Steph and you got Shea, I mean, you got Brunson doing his hero. It's like, J.O., you know how it is in the era. You played kind of like the tail end of the big era. I mean, look at all the bigs. But when Shaq was doing what he was doing, man, you, hey, unless you was Olajuwon or Robinson, but there was some really quality bigs.
32:00Shannon Sharpe:But you don't get credit because these other guys are playing so well. Steph Curry, James Harden is still in the league. Steph Curry is still in the league. You got Luka still in the league. So it's going to be hard for, I think, for Hallie to get the credit that he deserves. Even if he wins, I still believe it's going to be hard for people to look at him as like, I still would take Luke over him. I would still take Steph. I would still take the X, Y, Z, and T. Well, the only reason why that is, right, if we talk about, you know, you heard this overrated stuff, right? A lot of it is it's the big game than the disappearance.
32:37Shannon Sharpe:Yes. That is the only reason. Now, we having a whole other conversation is he come out tonight and he has 20-plus. 20 plus points that really mattered. You can look in the fourth quarter with the 12 that you scored in the fourth quarter. The game is over. Empty calories. I think from a respect, I do believe he is learning. Because even you look at his body expressions on the bench, he's talking to himself. You've got to go through that experience of people are going to take Luka, they're going to take Steph because they're going to give you those 20, 30, 40s on every night. Yeah. He's trying to really, it's almost like he's trying to find himself without deteriorating who he truly is, which is a past first point guard.
33:20Shannon Sharpe:Yes. And so we got to give a little bit of grace. I just need him to be more aggressive to start and let the cards fall as they may as the game progress. You know who was a past first point guard? Magic Johnson. Until he got his ass in the NBA finals against the Philadelphia 76ers, and he went 42-15-37. step. You say to hell with that pass. And sometimes that's what you have to do. I mean, you know, LeBron is really a pass, but at some point, you got to say, you know what? To hell with this. I'm going to get mine. Y 'all rebound and put it back in the hole if you can't get it back out. And I think that's what Hallie's going to have to do.
33:59Shannon Sharpe:That's the approach he's going to have to take. It's all on knowing when he hit that switch. Magic knew when he hit that switch. LeBron knew when he hit that switch. It's all about Hallie understanding when he hit that switch especially doing it before your team goes down 15, before your team goes down 20. It seems like he comes out and he looks for those other guys to kind of get them going. Yes. Him. Like, he has to understand he is him. You know what I mean? Like, he has to come out, set the tone, set the pace, and wish they want to play to be aggressive. Because, like you say, they won game one, so they did kind of seem a little like, okay, we don't.
34:36Shannon Sharpe:They seem a little past the scene content. Yeah, they seem a little content. So I expect a different Pacers team to show up in game three, guys, being at home, playing in front of their own crowd, a lot more confidence. These guys will probably play at a much faster pace. They only had, what, nine fast break points tonight? That ain't going to get it for them to win. We know they've been a great fast break team the entire season. Yeah, it's going to be hard to beat OKC at a half-court set. They got too many great defenders. They got their hands are too good. Shea had, what, four steals tonight?
35:09Shannon Sharpe:Shea had four steals tonight. They'll have both fast break points. Joe, but think about it. People ain't even talking about this. They got, remember coming through high school, they got the one kid that don't do nothing but run around with you. He ain't got two shots. Well, they got Dort out there, boy. Dort out there. He a shadow with these boys right now. And I think people don't talk a lot about him. Obviously, he's all defensive team, first team. Yeah. That is major when you can take somebody and say, look, he ain't playing tonight. Right, right. You run around with him. And that is, to me, that does, I feel like that does have a little bit of an impact on what we see with Tyrese Halliburton early, right?
35:46Shannon Sharpe:They're not letting him get a rhythm. They're not letting him get to his spots. They say, okay, y 'all going to play four on four. But me and you over here, you know, running around. Hey, I agree. I agree with you. And I love Lou Dork for that because his game isn't predicated off making shots or scoring. You know, that's the plus that he's giving you that. but he's in there strictly to be disruptive to be a pest defensively and take out your best player ultimately him him and Wallace that's why they're in the starting lineup they not necessarily now if they explode for 15 to 20 points okay we're gonna pat them on their back it's gonna be hard to beat them if they playing like that but they're both in there for defensive purposes and they've been doing their job especially tonight yep this is what Azale said Rick Carlisle has been a coach for the past 23 years.
36:31Shannon Sharpe:He could be the right man to elevate Halliburton's game and the Pacers to a championship-caliber team, Isaiah Thomas said. You went to an NBA Finals, but you didn't win a championship until you met Phil Jackson. Zeke told Shaq tonight, Kobe Bryant didn't become Kobe until Phil Jackson got there. Jordan didn't win until Phil Jackson got there. You've got a coach in this series by the name of Rick Carlisle, 65 years old, and we saw him the other night run triple stagger, and none of these OKC players have seen that before. Rick Carlisle is bringing some old school stuff. This is a different style of basketball that OKC ain't used to playing against.
37:07Shannon Sharpe:We have to come out with something else. Because I don't know what he ran tonight, but they ate that up. I don't know what that was, Joe. But OKC was ready for that. Yeah, they had to. I mean, they at home, best team in the league. They lost game one. They had no choice but to come out and play desperate like they did tonight. But look, I'm not putting them past the Pacers, man. They've shown up and proven to me this whole entire postseason that when you count them out, them boys going to bounce back and they give you a great game. So the Pacers are still in control, guys. Yeah. They just got to protect the home court.
37:48Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to tell you guys, I had a chance to play for Ray Carlisle on Indy, right? And so I know the love of coach he is. I remember being in the huddle sometimes, and he would just, after the first, you know, get the two horns, the first horn come, and he's just sitting there looking, and as soon as we hit that first horn, he starts to draw upsets, right? That we typically, you know, like in-game situations, right? And that's the type of coach he is. You know, he's a savant. He's a basketball savant. And that's why I'm picking and willing to put a wager on the Pacers in game three. Damn. Joe, what you trying to do, Joe?
38:21Shannon Sharpe:What we doing, J-O? Little friendly bet? Let me tell you all something. It's kind of conflicting for me because Jannero Pargo, I'm talking about my best friend, one of my best friends, he's assistant coach for the Pacers. So, and then, you know, I got some former Razorbacks playing for the Thunder, so I'm conflicted. But if you want to put a little something on it, J.O., you know, a little friendly. Nobody ain't ever conflicted about money. You notice that, Joe? Hey, you notice that, J.O.? Ain't nobody ever conflicted about money, Ocho. Ain't no conflict. No conflict at all about that. What you going to do, baby?
38:53Shannon Sharpe:You know what I'm saying? Whatever we want to do. We both got Zell. You know what I'm saying? A cash out. It ain't got to be. Nothing to make you nervous, J-O. Just a little light-hearted or two. We ain't got to act like that now. Hey, God damn it, Joe. I feel good about the Pacers, bro. Oh, do you? Yeah. You feel good about them going home, playing in front of their home crowd, huh? Absolutely. I ain't going to lie. I do, too. But I just think OKC, man, they've been great on the road. fellas. They've been great on the road. They going home get some of that country kitchen, J.O. They go get some of the neck bone and fried catfish and wings.
39:31Shannon Sharpe:That mac and cheese. Hey, J.O., no. J.O., you know, you do have, some teams do have a tendency to kind of let their guards down when they get home. They sleep in their own bed. You know, they get relaxed a little bit. They got, you got 15, 20 people coming in town because they want to see the finals. So now you got to entertain. Oh, no. Next thing you know, yeah. Next thing you know, you tie. How much NBA finals tickets cost? Man, listen, I was checking the day because I was taking my son, like, second and third row is$5 ,600 per ticket. Okay. The only $5 ,600 I know is Lawrence Taylor. That's about it.
40:13Shannon Sharpe:Hey, them Super Bowl tickets be, they head cracking now, man. Them Super Bowl tickets be going$15,$20, 30 40 50 thousand hey look you gotta look at the money these dudes making now yeah well that's one game right you talk about the same thing like the front row the floor seats was almost 12 ,000 per seat but JL think about how high you in the stadium at least you could yell somebody they could hear you you saw how I'm paying 4 ,000 5 ,000 6 ,000 ain't nobody hear you but a dude next door to you, but man, stop all that damn yelling.
40:55Shannon Sharpe:That's the day, man. Look what's on the bar, Ocho. What that is? What that is, four plates? What's that, what's that, four or five? Mm-hmm. Why you struggling? Why you struggling? Hey, I tell you what, I bet you can't tell me. I tell you what, you can't even hold it. That's three wrestlers, four or five. You ain't never done four or five. Who ain't never done, man? Man, what you talking about? Yeah, you going to say you squatted? As a matter of fact, I probably can bitch what you squat while you bumping him. I don't do that, bro. I squat. I squat. Why you bumping him? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
41:30You might want to pump your brakes a little bit and talk to some of my teammates and ask That's 405 right there, Joe.
41:36Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, don't catch no hernia. With no spotter and a suicide group. Ocho, don't catch no hernia out here trying to lift no 405, man. Hey, Joe. Joe, I was doing 405 when I was in the league, Joe. I was squatting 650 when I was in the league, Joe. I worked out with the linemen, Joe. You can't squat 650 with a two-ply suit. Hold on, Joe. See, that's why I know you don't know. If you know, have you ever been in a two-ply suit? Hey, Joe. Have you ever been in a two-ply suit? No, I only wear three-piece. Exactly. Joe. That's why I know he don't know nothing about it. Joe, every time I say I do something, right, he never believed me until I had people that come on that played with me.
42:18Ain't nobody gonna come on. I can call Chip. I can call Chip. Call Chip. Call Ray. Chip Morton. He'll tell you. I know Chip. Chip was being Baltimore.
42:30Shannon Sharpe:I worked out with the linemen. All I know, pound for pound, when I was in the league, I was the second strongest player. I was 225 pounds with a max of 470. Hold on. You was the second strongest player on your team, maybe. No, in the league. Body weight pound for pound. man hey um you did that with no spot man no by myself yeah hey he probably it was probably elevated they probably had some help ain't no elevated hey you see pull it back you can see what's back there you can see what's back there hey um you see these arms by myself touching my chest That is a bitch. Hey, that's a magic trick. I don't believe that.
43:19I got to see that for myself. That's it. Hey, Joe, that's AI, Joe. That's AI. That ain't real. OK, AI. That's AI. Hey, chat, that's AI. Don't be in there.
43:29Shannon Sharpe:I ain't going to lie to you. That's what they chat. The chat? No. Hey, look, I ain't going to lie to you. There ain't nothing but some squat weight for me, boy. Hey, I ain't going to sit here and lie to you. I ain't even trying to get under there and lift no 405. Boy, please. Hey, Joe, it ain't that hard, Joe. He just look like that. You know, football players have different builds from basketball players. For sure. I do, Joe. Look at me, Joe. Here you go. Here you go. Here you go. Here you go. Here you go. I tell you what, Ocho, give me six weeks. What you going to do in six? What you... Give me six weeks.
44:08What you talking about? You want to do... Ocho, you really want to do this? You know I work out every day, Uncle. No, I'm saying you really want to do this. Whatever you want to do, I work out every day. I ain't played football in 12 years. I work out every day like I'm finna get a phone call. How long you think it's been since I played football? Damn, you think I retired yesterday? I'm there telling you, I work out every day like I'm finna get a phone call. You just never know. Just in case.
44:35Shannon Sharpe:I've been retired 22 years. Okay. Okay. With double hips. What you want to do? I mean, what you want to do for six weeks? I'll bet you I wouldn't even put my feet on the floor. Man, listen, six weeks, what you want to do? I can hold my feet up, too. What you saying? Hey, Ocho, Ocho, I'll bet you my feet up like this here. I can do the same thing. It's all about my feet up. Hey, listen, Uncle, it's all about core at that point. Hey, you see how I'm wiggling my feet? That's how I'm wiggling my feet on the bench with you. All right. I want to know what's up with this six-week challenge. What you trying to do?
45:14Because I love a good competition.
45:16Shannon Sharpe:I ain't wasting my time with you, man. That's what I thought, because you know what's up. You don't want no smoke with me. You know better. You know what it's going to last. Ocho. Don't let him get your blood pressure up, Ocho. Hey, no, I'm good, Joe. Joe, I'm good, Joe. But when it comes to competing, can't nobody see me in nothing. I don't care who it is or what it is. And, Joe, this is what I do, Joe. Man, Ocho, I don't even really lift like that no more, Ocho. But for you... Man, lost his mind over there.
45:50Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. Who you... I mean, Ocho, you can't even do 315. How you going to tell me what I can do? I'll do it tomorrow, before my flight. I'll do it before my flight tomorrow to show you. Hey, lifting weight ain't nothing to me, huh? Hold on, I'm trying to think. Hold on, where we go? Listen, let me finish. I've been pushing weight since the 80s. I've been living weight since the 80s. What you talking about? Hey, Joe. Joe, I done it all, Joe. I was a mule for the cartel, Joe. What you talking about? This is what I do. Hey, look at this. Look at that. Let me put it in the camera for you so you can see.
46:28Don't you see that? That's 30 inches, boy. That's 30. That's half of that. Hey, I don't know about y 'all. Hey, Joe, I took a nap today, Joe. Yeah, I tell. I took a nap today. You must be having something to drink to. You could out bitch me. But let's do it right now. Race me in the 400, man. Race me in the 400, huh? You want to make some man with artificial hip, huh? I ain't trying to hit you. Oh, excuse me. You got excuses? You got excuses. Race me in the 400. You retired after I stopped running. I ain't trying to hear all that. Race me in the 400. See, now you want to take advantage of a man that ain't got no real heels.
47:10Man, listen, man. Hey, handicap or not, everybody can get it. Bet 5 ,900. What?
47:17Shannon Sharpe:No, we got triple. We got like salary bet on this bench press. Okay. Hold on. Why got it just to be bench press? Let's compete in everything. That's what you want to do, Ocho. I want to race. I want to play paintball. Let's do basketball. I want to do all type. I want to do all type of stuff. How about, oh, Joe, I got artificial help. I got ready. I tell y 'all what. I tell y 'all what we can do. We can bet on this ping pong table. Now, Joe, don't. Look, look, look, look, look. Unc, you claim the Chinese people come over there and train with you, Unc. That's what you claim. That's what you claim.
47:55Shannon Sharpe:Hey, hey, hey, that's a good bet. That's a good bet for all three of us. Why I tell y 'all I love some cat raggedy. You hear me? yo don't play with me I ain't played in a while I ain't played in a while though I know I play around a lot Joe you done see me play tennis do not do not play with me Ojo Ojo Ojo I'm telling you hey hey Ojo you got that you got that you got that cushion you got the padded paddles man I got the wood paddles the padded paddles I got whatever you need yeah I ain't play I ain't play I ain't I ain't play the whole lot with them uh the padded paddles We normally play with the sandpaper.
48:33Shannon Sharpe:Remember those sandpaper paddles? See, them padded ones, you can put that little spin on that boy. Ain't no return in that. You better keep that little wooden paddle you got. That ain't what you want, Joe. Yeah, it is. Ask about me. Man, come on, man. Ask about me in overtime, man. Ask my homeboy Buckwheat. I know Buckwheat might see this. Ask him boy about me on the ping pong paddles, man. That's what I do, man. at Hadley Park and over town at Gibson. When it comes to ping pong table at Mo Park, that's what I do.
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Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and Joe Johnson discuss why Tyrese Haliburton isn’t getting the credit he deserves as an NBA superstar. Meanwhile, Unc and Ocho argue over who’s stronger—and now they’re planning a weightlifting showdown to settle it once and for all on Nightcap!
47:46 - Iso Joe on his Big 3 injury
51:12 - Ocho lifting 315 in the gym
1:02:20 - Hali not getting enough credit?
1:12:30 - Unc vs Ocho lifting competition
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