Best of WR Talk Part 2: Time to Pay Terry McLaurin + Ocho Top 5 WR All-Time?!

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2:11Shannon Sharpe:Ocho, during OTAs this week, A.J. Brown admitted surprise at his current mindset. Coming into the league, we're taught we're playing for this reason. We're playing for the trophy. And once we got the trophy, it was just like, I thought everything would be fulfilled. Like the hard work and everything. But no, it's a journey. It's the journey that matters the most, that means the most. Because those are the moments you look back with your teammates, those that you're spending time with, you're going to war with, you're suffering together, you're winning together. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I wanted to be a Pro Bowl player.

2:46Shannon Sharpe:Yeah. I want to be an all pro player and I want to win a championship. I didn't think about no Hall of Fame. I didn't even realize the Hall of Fame until Mark Kiesler told me in 96, like, man, he's like, bro, you could put together a couple more years. You can go to the Hall of Fame. I was like, what? I'm like, they take seventh rounders in the Hall of Fame? He's like, it don't matter what round you get drafted in. They go by production. I was like, okay. That was the first time that I had really even gave a thought. Now, mind you, Ocho, in 91, we played in the Hall of Fame game. I went to that very building that my bus resides in.

3:19Mm-hmm.

3:20Shannon Sharpe:That's dope. Not even thinking. Man, they never even done. Bro, I'm from Glenville. I'm from Savannah State. Hall of Fame? Yeah. Man, Joe Green in the Hall of Fame. Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, the greats are the greats in the Hall of Fame. Legends. Yes. But you realize, and it's not good enough to make one Pro Bowl, because hell, anybody can do it once. Yeah. can you go back when they know you the guy? When they game playing for your ass? Over and over. Can you become an all-pro again when they game planning for you? Yeah. When you walk to the middle of the field, man, hell of a game, Sean.

4:02Shannon Sharpe:Man, Ocho A, man, you gave us that work today, Ocho A. Don't worry about it, we'll see your ass again. Yeah, that's what I want. I want when y 'all go in the meeting on Wednesday, I want y 'all to circle the A, that tight end of 84. We got to deal with him. and I totally agree with AJ because there's nothing like that's what you Ocho I never miss the game I miss the bus rides the plane rides the bull jiving in the locker room in the training room joking in the meeting room cracking jokes that's what you because that's what you're never going to be able to replace ever you never you never and you look you're not besties with everybody but you're not going to be around 10-11 guys that y 'all laughing and joking you're never going to be like that again It's never going to be like that again, Ocho.

4:46No, it's not. And listen, what you just talked about, about A.J. Brown, I've become a little bit more fond of Young Bull, man, as of late, hearing some of the things he's talked about. I'm not going to get into detail on it, but his perspective on life and other topics that I've seen him speak on. And he's become a huge, a huge favorite of mine, not even the receiver AJ Brown I'm talking about the human being the person the husband the person he is and values and morals in which he stands and said I never knew that about him I never knew it about him because I've never had the opportunity to interact with him outside of the game of football but hearing him and where he stands and his beliefs very very very admirable from the outside looking in on on on what I thought the individual was like you know based on what I see on the field but in who he truly is off the field dude I love dude man I love he real sharp yeah and he got a sharp man man so it was a joy to see him in a different light than what I expected based on the football player that I got to watch on Sundays

6:07Shannon Sharpe:I remember we won the Super Bowl and obviously man there's nothing like it like I said we broke the NFC the NFC had run 14 straight Super Bowls Ocho and to win it and to hold that trophy to actually be on the field to have the confetti come down in your colors and you got the trophy now think about how many times I've seen the Super Bowl winning team go on the field and get that trophy and everybody's looking at it Now I finally have it. Yeah. A small kid from Glenville, Georgia, went to Savannah State and seventh-round draft pick, and I'm the starting tight end. They pronounce my name and everything, and everybody in Glenville say, you know what, I know somebody that actually played in the Super Bowl.

6:49Shannon Sharpe:As a matter of fact, I probably went to school with him, his brother, or his sister. That was me. And winning that trophy, that was like, that was at that point in time probably the crowning achievement of my career. and I remember going into the off season and I'm like because back then you know it was 16 games Ocho and then you know we still had the two weeks and so we started playing I mean first week so I think the Super Bowl was damn near like the end of January it didn't bleed into February and I just remember like the off season Ocho I was like man so I took about an extra week off and got back into it and I remember when we came back to OTAs and Mike got up in there and was like hey congratulations guys I'm proud of this I'm proud of you guys he said if you want to be special you got to go do it again yeah there are a lot of teams that's won one in a row he said if you want to be special you want to be remembered we got to go back to back and that was the mindset that we adopted and I remember once to see we came out of I mean, we had a great, you know, as a matter of fact, we had a great training camp.

8:06Shannon Sharpe:Everything was great. We had, we had fun. And Mike would put one, like most teams have their schedule up. They're all 16 games. Right. We put one game at a time. He said, this is a 16 round fight. We're going one round at a time. Right. Bing. Boom. Knocked the Patriots out. And so we just going down, just checking them off. Checking them off, Ocho. Checking them off. 13 weeks. Because think about it. We won our last game. No, yeah. We won our last two games. 97. Yeah, we won our last two games in 97. No, last game in 97. Beat the Chargers. Then we go through the playoffs, win the Super Bowl. Then we come out.

8:50Shannon Sharpe:So we win like 18 straight games, Ocho. Feeling good. Yeah. Get to the playoffs. but I agree with everything he said there's something about that moment and when I get on the phone and I talk to Burns or me and Ross Smith calling foots feed some of them guys and man we just hey man you remember such and such we at the back of the plane joining I mean very few very few times Ocho do we ever talk about the Super Bowl game itself we're talking about going to the game we're talking about on the plane ride back on the bus ride back very seldom do we mention anything about the Super Bowl itself. We always talk about the plane ride.

9:32Shannon Sharpe:Man, you remember we got snowed in and we had to go get people on snowmobiles to go to Buffalo. We get to Buffalo like 1.30, 2 o 'clock in the morning and we got a 1 o 'clock game. Yeah, man, that was so much fun. Ain't nothing like that. Ain't nothing like that. And when you're in it, Ocho, you don't get to enjoy it. You don't. You don't. Because you're in it. And you feel if you enjoy it, it's going to take you out of that mindset of what you need to do to make sure you try to stay in it. So, man, ain't nothing like that.

10:12Shannon Sharpe:Hey, AJ Brown said he's also upset about the current haircut price in the country. Haircut prices are crazy nowadays. I used to pay$20 for a cut. AJ, ain't no more$20. I used to pay$5. $2.50. Hey, but you got to realize, Ocho, I was getting haircuts in the 70s. Me and my brother, my grandfather, gave me and my brother$4,$2 to$5. Hey, both of us get a haircut. In college, that's all you give me a teammate. Man, I wish I would pay a guy$5 to cut my hair. Boy, you better get... Well, please. Boy, times are different, boy. Yeah. Man, Ocho, look, I ain't got no problem. you know, hey, good$60 for a cut.

10:55Shannon Sharpe:I'm going to go ahead and tip your phone. Ocho, dude, they be wanting$200,$300 to cut me. Man, listen. Charge$15 for a part. Boy, you know, hey, hold on. You talk about a haircut,$200. Boy, two steaks at the grocery store? Boy,$43. Yeah. Well, guess what? How much are they in the restaurant? $70. so at least you got two hey they got to make their money up some kind of way they ain't got no choice to mark it up look a lot of times a lot of times what happens Ocho is that if barbers cut athletes, celebs and entertainers they want to live that lifestyle bro you need to play a sport you need to act, play an instrument or dance, sing or something because you not finna come up on me hey I grow dreads first I grow dread, I get twist I'm not paying no$300 for no cut I don't care if I got$20,$30,$40,$50,$60 million I'm not paying no$300 for no cut Ocho I'm not that's a lot for just a cut listen, that's a lot now what we can say is about our friend not too long ago who's down here in Miami now that kind of service yes I forgot his Instagram name but for that kind of service $300 now we talking we can talk together you gonna cut it, you gonna dye it you gonna give me a facial I got you now that I understand, I'm not gonna get that every time not every time but every so often you got your nice little date night with your girl boom, there you go now you good man please, man you think I'm gonna let you you gonna be cutting my hair for 30 minutes and I'm going to give you$300 and then you want to expect a tip.

12:52Shannon Sharpe:Tip who? Tip what? I got a tip. Don't eat egg salad and ride the bus. That would be a terrible experience for everybody. Bang. I ain't got nothing for you, Ocho. No. Uh-uh. But, nah, I'm trying to think. AJ, yeah, well, I'm saying, I'm trying to think when I played, how much was I playing for a cut? Yeah. I'll pay about$20,$30. Yeah. Yeah. I played, the dude cut my hair, now he do a good job. I give him a, hey, I think he like 45, 50, I give him a hundred. Damn, big money, okay. Yeah. Big money. But he, they do a good job of getting me in. Because like, like when I was in Atlanta, Ocho, like all my, I like, I don't like, I don't do no walk-ins.

13:40Shannon Sharpe:I like a standing appointment. it. So for my nails, my facials, my haircut, my massage, I would pay for the whole year. God damn! Pay the whole year. Because guess what, Ocho? When I say, hey, I want my time, they're more apt to move somebody to get me in as opposed to them moving me to get somebody else in. So you done already paid everything else? Yeah, I done paid. I done got back. Hey, were you? Hey. Yeah. I always did that. Hey, you complaining about me on you$5 ,200 and you paying for nails, manicures, and haircuts a whole year. They providing a service. What you doing, you taking money out my pocket.

14:20Shannon Sharpe:I can't pay them. I told them, I told them, I would pay you money, but Ocho owe me$5 ,900 and I can't pay you. I ain't never heard nobody do that where you pay. Hey, Ocho, check this out. I remember I paid, I had ran out because I get like, so I got this package and the lady runs a special on facials you know if you go ahead and pay you buy 12 can I get them once she'll give you 15 I bought the package got the job at Fox

14:58Shannon Sharpe:I still got some other books I have some other books I ain't got them no more but I like that I like a standing apartment They know I'm coming at this time. Hey, when did I get my massage? Monday. I used to get massages Monday. No, Wednesday and Friday. That's my massage. Haircut was Thursday. Nails, Thursday. I like that. I like knowing. I like structure. I like a schedule. I like being on a schedule. I think everybody knows that. And I'm going to be, hey, and I'm going to be, hey, and I'm going to be ticked if I come in there and I got to wait longer than five minutes because you know I'm coming.

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19:17I'm going to tell you how you're going to get his money. How you're going to get it? Shoot, Jaden Day, if we go up there. Hello? Who is it? It's Jaden. I need my number one quarterback. I need my captain. I'm not sure what you need to do on your end, but I know what I need on my end. I need Scary Terry to get that money so I have that safety net. so I had the individual to throw to the same one pull up the film from last year I don't understand what the problem is I don't know what we mulling around for get him his money I still got two years before I'm up so we're gonna be all right no I'm going but yeah this year next year after next year

19:58Shannon Sharpe:I'm gonna come see you too and uh if I got him that increases my value too thank you because I I'm going to put up big numbers and I see where it's going. So I'm about, I'm trying to get 62. Damn. Oh, I'm trying to get, hold on. I'm trying to get Josh. I'm trying to get Josh Allen number. 62? Josh Allen would have signed two years. I'm two years after Josh Allen. I'm trying to keep the market going. Okay. Okay. How much Josh Allen, how much Josh Allen got fully guaranteed? I'll tell you what. You ain't got to give me. You ain't got to give me for$300 to make it all guaranteed. $300? Josh Allen got$330.

20:43Shannon Sharpe:How much is fully guaranteed? $250? He got a quarter billy? He got$250 fully guaranteed. Okay, boom. That's me. So six years,$330. I don't really care enough about that. tell me how much if it floods if it snow if it's a tornado a rainstorm I don't care tell me what I'm going to be what I'm going to get so guess what by that time Mocho 275 that's going to be the goal rate 275 hey so CJ Stroud going to be in that in that ballpark too then CJ Stroud up after this season absolutely yes and you better hope Patrick Mahomes don't say you know what I'm tired all these jokers making more than me. Give me my true value.

21:33Shannon Sharpe:He wouldn't do that. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Pat Pat. Because he won't, you know, I'm saying he's made it abundantly clear. He's like, he's doing great with money. They've done great by him. He's like, look, I'm just trying to keep this team together as long as I possibly can. Keep as many good players around me, a la Tom Brady, as I possibly can. Hey, and plus, the money that I make off the field can sustain my lifestyle. And it makes up for what he's not going to make in contracts as opposed to other quarterbacks that's taking a huge lump sum. Yeah. I think the thing is, Ocho, when you look at it, my homeboy, he's going to be like Brady.

22:13Shannon Sharpe:Brady was not the highest paid quarterback. Even though he played the most years, he didn't make the most money. Aaron Rodgers is at$408 million, I think, and then Matthew Stafford is at$391 million. Tom Brady way way on down I mean Tom Brady listen don't feel sorry for him he made really good money but Tom it it became painful it came obvious to everybody the most important thing was rings it wasn't money because Tom realized as a quarterback he was gonna be able to make money now he's making 35 million at 37 million a year for 10 years so he good so he said now now look I give y 'all something to chase because y 'all can pass me monetarily.

22:54Shannon Sharpe:I want to see the dude that's going to catch me with these rings. Who's going to get eight? Who's going to get seven? Who's going to get six while we're talking about it? I'm already there. I'm in the clubhouse. He said, look, I've already shot under par. I'm in the clubhouse. Come catch me. Damn.

23:17So.

23:19Shannon Sharpe:Goddamn. Terry's like, look, bro, I done been to the Pro Bowls. I done 1 ,000-yard seasons. I don't really know what else y 'all want me to do. I don't know what else I need to do to show you that I'm worth whatever I say I am. His situation is different. He's going to get his money. It's just about being patient and the timing of when it gets done. Miss minicamp. Just make sure you're working out. Before the season start, maybe before training camp. You don't want to miss another training camp. You don't want to. No, you don't. You don't do that. Don't do that. And I'm sure that the organization understands you're going in a different direction.

23:54You're going in a different direction. You had a phenomenal season last year. You got things off. You got things off to a great start. Don't F it up. Don't F it up. Don't piss off the fans. You had a great season in the NFC Championship last year. Let's keep that momentum and consistency of greatness going forward and changing that culture. Wow.

24:20Shannon Sharpe:Reports are saying coach wide receiver coach Reggie Wayne, Reggie Wayne that is, Reggie Wayne is viewed as a possible interim head coach if Shane Steichen struggles to start the season. Ocho? I like it. You don't like it? Now, here's the thing. You know, they're under, you know, Jim Ursae, rest his soul. Mr. Ursae passed away a month ago. His three daughters took over. I think his oldest daughter, although they all have roles, she is the majority. She makes the decisions. Because even if it's a family thing, the NFL wants there to be one voice. They want one person to be able to talk. And so she is the oldest.

25:02Shannon Sharpe:And I guess he put it in a situation where, okay, you handled this, and it's going to go accordingly. But that would be very, very interesting. Because it's one thing like, damn, all of a sudden we're thrust into this and we're running a billion-dollar corporation, a multi-billion-dollar corporation, it's something entirely different when you've got a head coach situation in your first year. That's not something that, you know, you've been on the job for five, six years, Ocho. You kind of understand it. But your first year, you've got to make that decision. I mean, listen, they've been around the game, though.

25:38They've been around the game long enough. Yeah, for sure. There are going to be certain decisions that are going to be made that can be somewhat altering business decisions, and that is one of them. Listen, I'm not sure who made the call or who made the decision when Jeff Saturday got the opportunity.

25:57Shannon Sharpe:Jim Irsay. Jim Irsay. He loves his players. He's really close to his players. I mean. Yeah. So, I mean, I think it would be a great, great opportunity for Reggie. He knows the organization. He knows the fan base. He understands the culture and what not only the fans, but what that organization needs to get Indy back to their winning ways. Yeah. But here's the thing, Ocho. You have to understand, Jim Irsay had a personal relationship with Jeff Saturday. Yes, sir. Even though they're around, they don't have the same type of relationships. They haven't developed that, and it's different male-female.