In short
Thanksgiving NFL recap and analysis focused on three games: Bengals vs. Ravens (Cincinnati wins), Chiefs vs. Cowboys (Chiefs lose), and Packers vs. Lions (Green Bay wins big). The hosts break down key turning points, especially defensive stops, turnovers, and specific offensive plays.
Guests
No guests are discussed in the provided transcript. It’s just the hosts: James “Debo” Harrison and Joe Hayden.
Guest backgrounds
Not applicable (no guests).
Key claims
- Bengals’ defense “showed up” after early struggles, repeatedly “putting out fires” and forcing stops on third down.
- Joe Burrow’s return/impact is credited with boosting Cincinnati’s confidence and offensive execution.
- Ravens’ multiple turnovers (including fumbles and an interception) made the comeback impossible.
- Packers’ offense got back on track with Aaron Jones and Jordan Love, while Detroit’s mistakes and penalties hurt them.
- The hosts argue several officiating/spotting decisions (notably a Packers TD review) were questionable.
Notable examples
- Bengals sack-fumble recovery near the Ravens’ 2-yard line; turnover on downs.
- Ravens’ Zay Flowers OPI call and multiple missed deep shots (e.g., missed Devontae Walker).
- Bengals’ long touchdown drives in the second half, including a one-hand catch by Tee Higgins’ replacement target (Hudson mentioned) and a Burrow TD to Chase.
- Packers: multiple Jacobs runs, a reviewed Wicks TD they believe should’ve been incomplete, and Detroit’s illegal-formation penalties.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThanksgiving Reflections
2:08 to 3:55
Hosts discuss their Thanksgivings and football experiences.
“We got bowl games, basketball matchups, playoff pushes.”
Thanksgiving Reflections
4:22 to 4:59
Hosts discuss their Thanksgivings and football experiences.
“Please make sure you guys like and subscribe.”
Bengals vs. Ravens Recap
4:59 to 7:16
In-depth analysis of the Bengals' performance against the Ravens.
“I got to put a little weight on you, Vadibo.”
Lamar Jackson's Performance
7:16 to 8:00
Discussion about Lamar Jackson's performance and gameplay.
“I could tell he don't like the slide, but you got to start liking the slide.”
Key Plays and Turnovers
8:00 to 9:14
Analysis of crucial plays and turnovers during the game.
“one of those passing, it's done turned into a real, real passing.”
Burrow's Touchdown Attempts
9:14 to 11:46
Discussion on Joe Burrow's touchdown attempts and play decisions.
“Talk about, Debo, this is what you talk about.”
Final Thoughts on Gameplay
11:46 to 13:20
Hosts share final thoughts on gameplay decisions and player performances.
“And on third down, Burrow get up out of that sack.”
Bengals and Ravens Game Analysis
14:00 to 15:19
Discussion about key plays by Burrow and Chase during the game.
“Me being a DB too, like watching these fade passes, watching these like hand fighting, you can, a push, you can tell it's a DB.”
Bengals and Ravens Game Analysis
15:22 to 16:16
Discussion about key plays by Burrow and Chase during the game.
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Game Highlights: Bengals vs. Ravens
16:44 to 17:54
Detailed discussion on Burrow's performance and Bengals defense.
“The Bengals do a false start on second down.”
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Second Half Dynamics
17:54 to 21:08
Analysis of the game’s second half and key defensive plays.
“you don't have to do it like that I think he OPI he OPI oh yeah that's no question you didn't I don't think they understand how to just give it that just hold him at a distance You know?”
Cincinnati's Comeback
21:08 to 24:09
Discussion of Cincinnati's turnaround and scoring plays.
“Listen, when you get you a player back like Joe Burrow, it puts confidence everywhere on your team.”
Final Moments and Turnovers
24:09 to 28:00
Overview of the game's final moments and crucial turnovers.
“Third down, Burrow hit Chase for like 15.”
Bengals vs. Ravens Game Breakdown
28:00 to 41:16
Analyze the critical moments of the Bengals defeating the Ravens.
“Dude, if he had got the full, yeah, he had got the full.”
Bengals vs. Ravens Game Breakdown
42:00 to 42:15
Analyze the critical moments of the Bengals defeating the Ravens.
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Bengals vs. Ravens Game Breakdown
42:20 to 43:19
Analyze the critical moments of the Bengals defeating the Ravens.
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Packers vs Lions Game Highlights
43:21 to 44:41
Discussion of the Packers' performance against the Lions, focusing on key plays and players.
“These days, I hear about AI so often that I tend to tune most of it out.”
Game Analysis: Key Players and Strategies
44:42 to 45:50
Analyzing player performances, especially Jacobs and Love, during the game.
“The next two first down, I mean, the next two downs, they picked up about nine again, staying ahead of the change.”
Detroit's Struggles and Missed Opportunities
45:51 to 47:26
Examining Detroit's challenges on the field and missed scoring chances.
“Yo, that right there, like, the flick of the wrist, that's the only thing saved him in that one.”
Controversial Touchdown Call and Reactions
47:27 to 48:51
Debate over a controversial touchdown call in the game and differing opinions.
“Hey, I'm going to bend you over this thing.”
Second Half Dynamics and Strategy Shifts
48:52 to 50:58
Overview of the second half game dynamics and shifts in team strategies.
“All of these plays, they've been slowing it down.”
Final Observations and Game Takeaways
50:59 to 56:00
Final thoughts on the game, key takeaways, and implications for future matches.
“And Green Bay, they come back out there.”
Game Analysis: Lions vs. Packers
56:00 to 1:01:54
In-depth discussion on the gameplay and key moments of the Lions-Packers match.
“You're talking about like From a, you know, like it's 21-14 That's a huge point swing You get from going from nothing To getting them They get seven points.”
Chiefs vs. Cowboys Recap
1:01:54 to 1:06:39
Analyzing the Chiefs-Cowboys matchup, focusing on defensive strategies and offensive performance.
“Especially when my defense ain't stopping them.”
Offensive Performances and Defensive Concerns
1:06:39 to 1:10:01
Discussion on offensive strategies and defensive weaknesses observed in recent games.
“Okay, if he on the first one, maybe he had it, maybe he didn't.”
Analyzing Dallas and Their Offense
1:10:01 to 1:11:30
Discussion on the strengths of the Dallas Cowboys' offense and defense.
“And then X's and O's versus Jimmy's and the Joe's.”
Predictions for Upcoming Games
1:15:06 to 1:16:50
Predictions and discussions on player performances for upcoming games.
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Transcript
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4:03How you doing today, Joe?
4:08Let me tell you something, Debo. Debo, it's my time real quick.
4:19Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you doing today, Joe? I'm doing good, brother Debo. Coming off a great Thanksgiving. How was your Thanksgiving, my brother? It was good, brother. I can't complain. I got to sit down and watch three games of football, baby. You know, it don't get much better than that. And now I ain't eat too much. See, that's the crazy. I ate and slept and woke up and ate again and slept and ate again. See, I can't. That get me to 300.
4:58I can't do that no more. I got to put a little weight on you, Vadibo. And, you know, the food's slapping. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. Where you at? I see you got a little different setup. See, you know, always I'm adaptable. Woke up, went to the crib this morning, ready for the show. Wi-Fi, completely down. So I had to come to, I'm at my wife's mom's house, you know, lovely. You got to adjust, baby. You know what I'm doing with that. So I just put some stuff together. I'm in her lovely chair in the basement, vibed up. Okay, that's what's up, man. Them bangles went out there and, you know, they put it on the rails.
5:34Yes, they did. Hey, listen, man. Joe Borg. That's my new favorite non-studded quarterback, man. I really appreciate you over there, man. Appreciate you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Smoking a cigar. Oh, you know Joe Cool smoking a cigar. Smack after the game. No question. No question, man. Since they get up out there on that first drive and they go ahead and roll Joe out so y 'all can see the footage. The token move. Yeah, the token move. He hits Tinsley for an eight-yard completion. Next play, Brown, I think, went for seven. Then second down, I think it was Samples. He got a short pass. He took for like, what, 15, 14, something like that.
6:17Then I believe Brown got dropped for like five. Yeah. Holding? It was a holding. It was a holding. First down, he hits Chase for nine. I think Brown converted on the first. That next play, I think it was like two yards. And then Baltimore, they stood up, you know. They bend a little bit, but don't break. They hold them to a field goal. It's three to Nathan. Lamar comes out immediately. What's the dude's name? Charlie Cooler. Cooler, yeah, though. He hits him for like 17. Next play, Lamar to likely for a hot eight. Henry converts that one on the third down for like four. Second down, Lamar do his thing.
7:14He going to scramble for a hot eight. Joe and the hamstring is good. No question. I could tell he don't like the slide, but you got to start liking the slide. He hates it. Yeah, for sure. You can look at it and see. I'm an athlete. I'm like this, bro, we're saving yourself because you don't want to keep taking the No question. You don't want to be getting bopped up. No, we need you. Then that man went on ahead and he went, what was it, almost 30 for the touchdown? 28-yard toss, King Henry, you know, picking them knees up. Bro, it's crazy. He passed Jim Brown now in yards. Like, I didn't really realize, you know, he was doing it in Tennessee for a minute, but like consistently getting 1 ,000, 1 ,500s.
7:57So, yeah. Shout out King Henry. when they done turned that thing into one of those passing, it's done turned into a real, real passing. There ain't too many more of them that's really just toting that pill. Crazy. Yeah. The Bengals get out there and they, Baltimore said, hold up. Let's really test it. Let's check. Corner blitz. Corner blitz. They sack Burrow. He get up. I'm trying to see him. I'm like, hey, get up. Get up. They hold him. They hold him down. They end up forcing the three and out. The Ravens get back out there, dude. And third down. This one's just starting to get tricky. Yes. The sack fumble recovery at the Baltimore 6 by the Bengals, bro.
8:47Bro, I think he was at the 3. It was at the 3? He was at the 3, brother. Oh, it might have been at the 3 or the 2. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He was right inside of the 5. He was underneath the 5. Yeah. with two, like two and a half. Matter of fact, it was the two, bro. Yes, bro. Because they ended up holding them and they went for it on fourth down. It was turnover and down. Yes. Listen, talk about putting on fire. Two and a half. Talk about, Debo, this is what you talk about. This is what you say. This is when you like this. You talk about a blade of grass. If you have a blade of grass to defend, that's what you're going to defend.
9:25A blade. Blade, bro. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah, because the Ravens get it, and they started at their two-yard line. Mm-hmm. Yep. Because on that third down, Lamar missed Flowers high. Yes. They ended up going to three and out. It really didn't matter that they got that little false start before they punted, but it was an extra yard. He was already heels on the back. Yes. Yes. Heels on the back. That's the worst position to be in. Come on, bro. You know what? I threw it over a punter's head like that. There wasn't even heels on the back. He just couldn't jump anyway, man. That boy had a bad hamstring.
10:03You know, Cincinnati ended up getting the ball midfield. I believe they got to about a third and six, and that's when they got that false start. But then Burrow, he moves around the pocket, does his thing, showing all the total good. He hit that boy Chase for the 13. That was a secondary route. He ran a dig, and he was able to escape. So then he was able to break back out to go to the sideline. So it was good by Burrow being able to create more time. Yeah, and then when they got to the fourth and one and they just did a straight quarterback sneak, I'm like, oh, yeah, this toe good. Talking about he put his left foot back with the broke toe to get more back.
10:41I said he pushed off the toe. I'm like, okay, he must be. Yeah, yeah. You see they were showing that big-ass thing he was wearing inside of his shoe. He kept switching the shoes to make sure his toe was comfortable. I said, I know that hurt. Yeah. Okay. Then on that second down, that could have been a touchdown. Bro, my man was out there. Tinsley, he was out there. That's the thing about having with you guys. Very sometimes. You got Jamar Chase, and now he's taking Tee Higgins' spot. It's the difference between Tinsley and Higgins when you got that second receiver over there. Not trying to knock him, but I was like, bro, run the fade ball.
11:21You chilling. Like Humphrey jumped down like he was laughing. Why did you stop, bro? You see this cornerback jump something like the ball. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. That's your quarterback playing that man. He's throwing you wide open. All the way. Like, all he had to do was keep running. You know, he ain't really – it's Burrow's first time back, but you still should never stop on the route. Like, he should be giving that thing out. He better not. And he looks up and the ball is in the air. It would hit him right in his hands. No question. No question. And on third down, Burrow get up out of that sack.
11:53I'm like, okay. Oh, yeah. flip. He do the little flip to the running back. They get to the fourth down. They got to settle for the field goal. Good thing he didn't throw that screen. They might have picked the screen if he would have threw it. Yeah, it might have been trouble. It might have been trouble. It's 6-7. Baltimore, I think they get out there. I think they convert like maybe it was two first downs. I think one was a third down where Lamar scrambled. And then that next play after he scrambled, though, he missed Walker Hyde. That could have been a huge game. He was wide open. Devontae Walker, right?
12:27Yes. Yeah. Yes, yes. Yeah. And the other first down I think they made was a second to 10 that Mitchell took like 12. Did check downs? Yep, yep. And then, bro, they get to that second down. He hit likely on the short cross. This dude went 44 yards for the tutty. And instead of just holding on to the ball, squeezing it, Your momentum is going to drop you forward. He tries to pull it out and stretch it over the line. How about, though, Debo? How about that? Likely, ah, bugged out. Bugged out. Bugged out. How about the effort? How about the reach? How about the punch? Can't stop. It's 100%. Every blade, Debo.
13:13That was like, if you were just running around, he's going to score. You tried to go tackle his legs. They're going for the ball because that's going to be a touchback. Those are good football players making plays. Like, not thinking nothing's ever over. Like, those are the teammates I want. Not stopping. Yeah. Like you said, every blade of grass counts. Cincinnati gets the ball back because it bobbles out the back. So, they get the ball, I think, at the 20. The first play, they get a holding penalty. They go to, like, what is it, first and 20. And Burrow completes, I think it's like the next two downs, he gets 19 of it back.
13:52like third and one. The runner back, he converged that easily, I think, for like three. And then Burrell. Bombs over Baghdad. Right. That man, Jamar Chase, is nice. And he threw it late hands. He did a little, he did a slight. Hey, I like to let it play, though. Me too. They both were handsy. They both were handsy. They both was handsy. with nothing overly aggressive with it. You tap me, I tap you. Me being a DB too, like watching these fade passes, watching these like hand fighting, you can, a push, you can tell it's a DB. But if he gives you a little something like, ah, he got me, that's not a flag.
14:37That's not a foul. You know what I'm saying? Like any of these little chicken wings, it's like, ah, he's a pro. Throwing late hands, give me a little rock with late hands. You know what I'm saying? Like that's what Chase did. So that was a great play by the wide receiver. You can't, that's not an OPI. Discover a spectacular island destination with crystal blue seas, endless sunshine, and the cool Bahamian breeze. Baja Mar, located in Nassau, Bahamas, offers your choice of three luxury hotels, over 45 fine dining and nightlife venues, Jean Batiste's all-new jazz club, the Caribbean's most luxurious casino, and one-of-a-kind experiences for the entire family, like our 15-acre tropical water park, wildlife sanctuary, world-class golf course, and so much more.
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17:26They settle for a field goal. I believe it's 9-7 now. Baltimore get out there. I think it was like second down. Lamar extends the play again. He is likely. 30. Bruh. First down. Flowers. I think he gets the touchdown he get the yeah he get the OPI what do you think I see this one you don't have to do it like that I think he OPI he OPI oh yeah that's no question you didn't I don't think they understand how to just give it that just hold him at a distance You know? Don't push. Just hold him at a distance like you're trying to...
18:21You're placing your hand instead of really shoving. You can place your hand there all you want, but when you start extending, like, damn. That was on Zay. I think you're wide open. Take away the points, man. No question. That was automatic. They had to call. There's no other way. Come on, man. They end up getting to a first and 20, make a few yards. But on third down, Lamar gets sacked again. Where did this Bengals defense come from? I had no idea. I was watching the game and I'm like, bro, Lamar, you know what I'm saying? Obviously, it's the Cincinnati defense. They're historically bad. You're going to go down there and do what you got to do.
19:05These dudes was making plays, keeping them in the pocket. You know what I'm saying? And DBs too. Even though sometimes it was tough cooking, but they was out there trying to make it work. Yeah, for sure. They end up having to punt the rock. Cincinnati gets out there. First down, LeBron, he gets 12. And then what they do? Penalty, false start. Was Orlando Brown false starting a little bit, even if they didn't call? I saw him jumping early a lot of plays. And I'm like, damn, you could throw the flag on him every time. Yes. Dude, they've been letting these tackles move early so much. I knew I was a dream.
19:47If you was to slow that stuff down, they're moving before the ball moves. It's just that it's so close after the ball moves. The ref is kind of undecided. Like, did he move or was it? And I think the ref sometimes, like, he threw two in a row. And then was like, can I keep on throwing the flag? I'm like, yes, you can. Like, am I going to kill the game? He's jumping. He's moving early. Throw the flag. He's moving. Second to 10, bro. I think it was Tinsley for, what was it, 14. But after that, they end up stalling out. They punt the rock. Now, Baltimore comes out. Lamar. 36 seconds left, Debo. 36 seconds left before the half.
20:33Okay? Two timeouts. Yeah. They ended up recovering it, dude, at the Baltimore 15, wasn't it? Wasn't it the Baltimore 15? 19. 19? Okay. They recovered at the Baltimore 19, bro. Cincinnati gets out there and cannot do nothing. The defense puts out fires. Another field goal. they end up only going 12-7 in the halftime right Baltimore kneel out they go 12-7 in there because they getting the ball back and the Bengals defense come out there immediately at the beginning of the third quarter and show up they force a three down I'm listen I'm happy they won and you gonna know why I'm happy they won at the end but But where the hell did it come from?
21:34Where did this come from? I haven't. Listen, when you get you a player back like Joe Burrow, it puts confidence everywhere on your team. It brings everybody up. And that is what I think we saw, dude. Cincinnati goes back out there, gets the ball, immediately goes like 10 plays, 61 yards for a touchdown. They stay ahead of the change. Burrow starts running, avoiding sacks, using his feet. you go with that plus I think they ended up having like a 15-20 yard pass interference what's the dude's name Piran yeah Piran he was doing a little something here and there and then Burrow did you see the little run he did bro I ain't gonna lie he looked like he might have had a little bit of running back back in the day and then like just scared just trying to get through there.
22:30Yes, yes. He had a little vision, but he had a little scary in him too at the time. Yes, yes. Yeah. And then, bro, finished that thing with a nice one on 14 yards to Hudson with the one-hand catch. Kyle Hamilton, in good position, in good space, but that's a great catch. You know what I'm saying? Again, another one where they let it play a little bit. Hand-biting, you know what I'm saying? But that's what's good on good. That's a great ball placement. Kyle Hamilton, that's where only he going to be able to catch it and be able to one-hand it and get two feet in. So, like, that's just good on good and then making a play.
23:10Yeah, it's what, 7 to 19 now? I'm thinking they have to get sideways. And damn, Baltimore finally answers. Andrews for 19. Then it's Henry for 8. Again, Henry for 7. Second down is Henry for 7. Third down, Lamar takes it, I think, well, nine. And then Mitchell for the 18-yard touchdown. And Zay Flowers blocking his ass off. Did you see him run, but he smacked over it. And then jumped on his back. I'm like, oh, oh, oh, get off him. He doing, he doing, he doing. Get off him, Zay. You know who taught him that? One of them dirty offensive linemen that like to jump on people's backs. A thousand percent.
23:56He taught him. I'm like, get off him, Zay. Get off of them. That was good work right there. Them boys from some type of way. So they went. I was going to tell you. Where is it? 19, 14 now. We got a fight. That's one of them. We got a fight on our hands. Cincinnati get back out there, man. Man, Burrow. I think it was Burrow to Brown. What was it? Nine. And then was it Piran. Piran. Piran. He went for 12. Third down, Burrow hit Chase for like 15. I think it was the next third down. What the – Yosavaz? Oh, he – That's his name? Yosavaz? Yosavaz. Yosavaz. Yosavaz. Twink and nine. Touchdown. Over Roman Smith.
24:46That was a good ball, too. I mean, ball play survivor at the top of the back of his head. Bro, he back. Like, he back first game. It ain't even like he picked up where he left off. Yeah, man. Let Burrow know. 26. 26. 26-14.
25:07BMO get out there and they go and get a whole penny on the first play first. They was ahead of the sticks. What y 'all doing? And then what happened? They get that thing to King Henry. That man. They got to keep their leverage. They had three people. They had three people. And Buddy wanted to come. You got inside, inside, inside. Man, he ran right around your ass. 45 yards. A whole half of a football field in New York. God. You know what I'm saying? And they had. It was first and 20 for a check down. Yes. Yes. Bruh. Second down. Amari ends up hitting Hopkins. I think that was the first catch he had.
25:54Like for 15. First catch of the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then second down, they pressured him. Ended up having to, I think, throw away. And then on that third and nine at the Cincinnati 15.
26:12Tip, pass, interception. And they return it to midfield. Tips and overthrows, man. They don't hit the ground. Tips, overthrows. hey, when you hit the ground when they hit the ground, you're the happiest person in the world defense, that thing's typically we always have them hit the ground for some reason we gotta be pursuing when the ball's moving, you think somebody just caught it, start running start running over there, something good could happen something really good could happen, the ball might pop to you yeah, so they ended up, I think, converting maybe one first down, they get to like a third and two and they just get stuffed.
26:54Yeah, lost and two. Dude come out there, he hit a 52-yard field goal. It's now, what's it, 29 to 14. Baltimore gets back out there. I think they converted on the third down because of a holding. Yep, holding on the DB. Yeah, and then the next play, he missed Walker deep again. That was like, that was the DB too. I mean, he put a hand in the basket. I mean, it was a great throw. He didn't, like, right that same time, perfect time. So, I couldn't see him. No, I'm talking about the one he missed. That next play, he missed Walker. He could have had him deep, but he couldn't hold him. Oh, okay, okay.
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27:37Yeah, I knew so much. Yeah, yeah. And then the next third down after that, they had a false start, and they went for it on the fourth down. and they almost got picked on that one. They turned it over on downs on that one, bro. Yeah, buddy, he looked like he couldn't get off the ground. He just smacked the ball, got a little PBU. Turnover on downs. Dude, if he had got the full, yeah, he had got the full. It really didn't matter about that for sure. Yeah, Cincinnati got out there. I think Brown, the first play, was like 18. And then the next one, I think, was almost 10. And I think Baltimore on the third and one, they get a penalty for encroachment.
28:22And old buddy, he said, I want to make it interesting. The next third down, he found it. He just coughed the pill up. I thought it was like a mishandled handoff. He got it clean. No, he took it. He just took it from him. He handed it to him and he handed it back to him. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. He gave it to me, I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you. That's exactly what happened. Baltimore, they get back out there after the fourth down conversion. They return the favor on the first down. Flowers fumbles the rock, gives it right back to Cincinnati. Give me that. No question. Cincinnati put a little extra on it by making the field goal 34-14.
29:05Game is over. Yeah, it don't. Yeah, it don't. It don't matter. Ravens you know you just they got too many turnovers what was it five turnovers bro it is hard to come back from that like even with your defense putting out fires I'm talking about not fires these boys was putting out right these boys was putting out forest fires I'm talking about 10 alarm fires all over the night you had one fumble that they got at the two yard line going in and gave up no points it was turnover on downs bro the other fumble was at the 19 going in they gave up a field goal the other one was at the 36 going in they gave up a field goal the interception they gave up only i think 20 yards on that one and that was a field goal and the the biggest one was the fumble they had down there they drove like almost 90 yards and still like only gave up a field goal man like on top of just that right there like you gave up points that should have went on the board the fumble at the goal line you can't come that was a whole flip that ended up being like a 10 point flip because they didn't get to seven and then they ended up driving down 90 yards to get three like the bangles just dude they did was necessary, dude.
30:35They just dominated the time of possession. The defense, the defense, they came in and did things. They actually got off on third down. Like, they got off on third downs, dude. They did what a defense is supposed to do, dude. Put out fires. Forest fires. Raging fires, dude. That's what a defense does, bro. That's your job. I'm talking about they putting out fires in the Sahara Desert with dirt and dust. They're putting out five. I'm dirt. Bruh, like that's what we need to do, man, as these Steelers. If we are going to go and beat Buffalo, bruh, we have to perform on defense. Period, dude. Offense, don't get me wrong.
31:24The offense, we got to run the ball, period. Buffalo is 30th in rushing, bruh. and 31st in rush per attempt. But like I said, they're still, what is it, like 12, 13 defense in the NFL? So how is that? When they're 30-something, they're number one in pass defense. They are also number eight in sacks per pass attempt. So we have to run effectively run the rock. We need to run the ball effectively. And I don't care if they know it's coming. If they can't stop it, it don't matter. Okay. If we can run the ball effectively, we now control time of possession, which means our defense isn't on the field as much.
32:25And our defense does not need to be on the field as much because we are going against the number three offense in the NFL, period. Number one in rushing and number nine in passing. So first thing we got to stop is the run. Thousand percent. We have to stop the run. Like, if we cannot do that, we're going to have to. And I know we can do it because we've done it. We did it against the number one rusher in the NFL with the coach. I know we can do it. The defensive players need to be in position to make the plays, meaning the play calling is important. The scheme is important. I don't care how good you are.
33:23If we are schematically deficient, it's extremely hard to overcome. And when we aren't and we are in position, the players need to do the necessary things to achieve success. Like in zone, reroute the receivers. if we're in man keep your eyes on your man and as a defense going against buffalo we're going to have to mix up zone and man coverages if we play man all night josh allen is going to run the ball on us okay he is going to run the rock and that's if we play man extremely well he's going to run the rock because our backs are going to get turned. Therefore, there needs to be something built in that spies him in man coverages.
34:17And when we're in zone defenses, guys, we have to jam these receivers, throw off their timings. It gives our rushers more time to get to Allen. Okay? Like, I also think we need to start bro, I think we need to start being able to disguise our defenses. Everybody is reading their mail. The very few times that we disguise, it actually confuses quarterbacks because we don't do it as often. And we don't do it well when we do it. And I'm thinking like that's something that it totally needs to be in there because I think the big issue is that everyone's not on the same page. So if I'm sitting here as an outside line and I'm actually rushing, but I'm stepping out here like I'm on two.
35:14And my safety is already rolled down behind me, sitting behind me. The quarterback already knows. We got to be working together. We got to be on a rope together. So no one person can be off. Like we used to have a thing where it was like, it's show. What does that mean? This time we're showing this right here. We get to a certain point, snap count, whatever it is. now okay once the play looks like it's go start we know he can adjust once he snaps it now we roll up like we need to be able to do that we're not doing that i don't know why we're not doing that as much as we should but when you're on that rope you had an understanding i don't know if it's because the players don't know what they're doing or is it because it's not being told that you know what this is something we need to do but if i'm sitting there and i have a quarterback like josh allen and i'm just sitting there in the coverage i'm a being he's going to put me apart okay if we're going to win this game that needs to be done a thousand percent everything you said Debo is correct as far as defense man to man, eyes zone, bumping your dudes, rerouting, we're saying the simple things like you said the routine stuff do it routinely and we're legitimately saying it because you've done it before it's not like we're asking you to go out there and do something that we've never seen you do you know what I'm saying we're asking you to go do simple things don't go act out of character.
36:35If you have a man, guard your man. If you have a reroute assignment, reroute your assignment. That part is when I'm with you 1000%. It's not a skill thing. It's a goddamn do-your-job thing. If you're not doing your job, obviously, I think you've been coached to do it because that's the defense on zone. But also, like I said, you still have to put your players on schematically correct things, offensively and defensively. so that they can do their job and not have them out there in something that is not going to work unless he goes and walks on water this play. But this is what I'm saying. The plays that we see when shit is open, it's not walk on water.
37:19It's like, dude, reroute. You know what I'm saying? Dude, get your eyes where they're supposed to be. You know what I'm saying? Stop getting, spraying out your fucking hole right here in these certain situations. So I think me, the every man whooping man all of that stuff is legitimate and our defense has the players to do it but they have to every play like no like it's on you to do your assignment do your alignment and if you and then then we can go look at the tape if this is some bullshit that they're asking you to do and that's just schematically wrong then we can go have that conversation like no that's wrong that's that's a bad play but on the stuff that we can see and we're looking at like oh no you're not rerouting oh no you're not looking at your man oh no you're not in your right gap right there you know i'm saying those are the joints where we're like this no that's just you being trash that's just you need to be a better player when the coaches are like this what kind of scheme is this how is he running wide open why is tj watt guarding the slot receiver that's shit when we like this that's bad play calling right there you know i'm saying tj shouldn't have to guard him in that situation so i'm with you when when we see those plays that's coaching when we see plays with motherfuckers not jamming that's on them you know i'm saying so us being able to analyze and see what's going on, being able to do it.
38:28But again, we are seeing people not jamming a lot. What are they being told? Is it a drop to your zone, watch the quarterback and read him, and then adjust as you go? No, no, no, no. Nobody's not telling you. Just you know what it is, Debo. When you have to jam two, it's a thing where you got to be doing two things. Read run, not run, get your eyes on two, and now you have to reroute them. Sometimes it might just be messing up. It's having a little brain fart. That's why you stand at four yards. It's usually your four by one. Yes. Why? Because I'm going to look and see. I got to read the main line.
39:06I'm coming down to it. If it's not, I'm just going to step over, bam him, and get to where I need to get going. Because I can't have him just taking off of the field. So I think some of this stuff is like we know football. I've never seen any cover three where you don't have to reroute number two. Like, that's just not – because how James Pierre is going to be able to cover? But also it's things like this. So, like you said, cover three. Say I'm dropping curl flat. I'm dropping curl flat, right? I ain't got no work. If I ain't got no work, I'm going to keep going deep. I'm going to keep dropping so I can get under that deep.
39:42How many people are doing that? How many people are having that football knowledge? That's not something that, like, you're just going to know. That has to be taught to you, told to you. Like, is the coaching being told to you? Is all that being told? Like, I got nothing in my zone. Why am I sitting here bouncing? Guarding grass. When I could have dropped back further and made that throw more difficult, which he had put more air time into it. Now am I saying? Like the play that we seen Horn do. When Horn is like, yeah, oh, I don't have anybody. There's nobody in my deep zone. I need to go find some work.
40:14Like, that's next level stuff that I feel you with. We need to be able to definitely do that. Oh, after the punch and wide, and nobody's in my zone, I can sink a little bit deeper and get up under this. It's definitely next level stuff. It's just the simple stuff that we're not doing. I'm with you. We got to see. I would like to ask them, what are you doing? That's the thing. I'm sitting here and I'm questioning, is this coaching or is this the player? Because I'm seeing it too often. At some point, if I'm the coach and you're not doing it, I got to get you up out of here. You're making me look bad because now you got of people like me question question and if i'm really teaching it right and i want to know i am teaching it right you need to be doing it but if you're not we need to get somebody in there that can because you got me looking crazy i'm not telling you can't or you won't the result is the same it's not being done i need to get somebody else in there that's gonna do it thousand percent like it it don't it don't it don't make any sense to it and right now cincinnati did us a huge we We are back in control.
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44:0131, 24. I wasn't expecting that either. I wasn't expecting that either. Man, I don't think it'll lie. They had Jacobs back, though, man. They had Jacobs back. Jacobs. He made some situational stuff happening. He made some runs, bro. They get the ball on that first down. He basically kept them ahead of the chains for most of the time. Like, the first down, he gets a run. I think it was like four or four. It was only a hot four yards, but that was after missing the game. I think second down, he hit Watson, like, on time, bro. As soon as he, man, he threw that ball before he turned around straight into his chest, bro.
44:38He was doing it. I ain't going to remember. Yeah, he was throwing the thing right on time. And then receiver, too, was getting open. Yeah. The next two first down, I mean, the next two downs, they picked up about nine again, staying ahead of the change. Third down, here come that man Jacobs again. Nice run. O-line did a good job blocking on that one, dude. I don't even think he got touched until he was about three yards, three, four yards deep. and that was just a swipe of a hand. And then again, it was another, I think, nine on first down. Maybe it was another nine on the next two first downs.
45:16Together, combined together, they got another nine. And then he had a nice pass to Dobbs. I think that gave him like a third and one. they converted for like four. Then Love scrambled on that sack. He avoided that sack. But the throw was short. That's what happened. That throw was short. He missed, dude. And then he ended up missing Watson the next play. They basically stalled themselves out. They started all hot. Detroit didn't stop them. They stopped themselves. Yeah, they settled for a field goal. It's 3-0. nothing the very first play golf trips dude i'm thinking he about to just fumble the whole thing out he got lucky was able to get it to him you see how his knee actually bumped the ball yes yes
46:10lucky dude yeah very lucky the next the next play parsons pressures him which would be something that would happen all night pressuring and and sagging him and then the third play he almost sacked him. But he ended up getting the ball out. Yo, that right there, like, the flick of the wrist, that's the only thing saved him in that one. Yeah. I know that big pissing off the D-line, bruh. Oh, man. That's the worst thing, dude. That's the worst thing, dude. Green Bay get back out there, and Detroit actually stands up. They hold him to a 3-0. I was like, okay. I'm like, okay. Detroit come back out there.
46:54Gibbs went on ahead, and I think he had a nice little seven-yard run. But they lost St. Brown on that same play. And that hurt me, boy. Oh, my man, it was his foot, right? Like it got rolled up on him. His ankle, yeah. He rolled up on his ankle. The receiver's trying to block. They coming up on you fast. That happens so much, man. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's part of the dirty part of being a receiver. You know, when you out there blocking. You get rolled up on, man. God, I know sometimes the DBs, we right there. And not back. They push them into the pile. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's him or him.
47:34Me or him. Hey, I'm going to bend you over this thing. It better you than me. Yeah. I think Gibbs got another seven on second down. And then the first down, they ended up getting an illegal formation. They stopped Montgomery for no game. And then Goff, he just threw it into the ground. And here come Parsons again. Third down. He sacks him. They got to punt the ball. Green Bay gets it back. I think first down, they pressured Love into like an incompletion. But, dude, here come Jacobs again, dude. A little check down. I think it goes for like eight. Third and two. man peels off what 29 30 or something like that though they end up converting another first down you know with the help of uh offsides from from detroit that was an incompletion on that third down that gets them to i believe was fourth and two now we had this fourth and two then he hits wicks for a 22 yard touchdown they call that a touchdown they reviewed and called it a touchdown i think the ball moved when he went past him he hit it and it went to his other hand they said he had control of that and it just moved to his other hand i personally think that was not a touchdown what about you i'm with you debo i'm with you i mean on offense if that was a defensive player trying to catch that i think they would have called that an incomplete pass just be like oh yeah he's the ball was moving obviously they're trying to get touchdowns but i think for sure it that's not secured.
49:19All of these plays, they've been slowing it down. If it's any type of moving like switching the hands and stuff like that, I think... That wasn't a switch, dude. That was a bump. Like a bump. When he came across, it was a bump, dude. And it just kind of just looked like it went to the other hand. Yeah. But that's not controlled. No, he's not controlling that during the switch. So that's incomplete. That's what they should have said. That's what I think. I'm with you. They end up going up, what is it, 10-0 now. And Detroit actually comes back out, and I think Goff he actually starts coming alive.
49:59He hits Williams for like, what was it, 22? Yeah, something like that. And then I think Gibbs goes almost 20 on the second down. I believe it was like a third and long Goff hit Kennedy for like 23. and then it's another illegal formation. Like, how you keep doing that? I don't know. Detroit, too. They well coached. I'm not. I think they had some new players in there and all that other stuff, but I'm like, yo, same thing, though. I don't care about that. You got to know what you're supposed to. Right. But you wasn't listening? I'm like, what you wasn't listening to me? Like, I don't know. Well, they get down there.
50:42I think they put Montgomery in there. He ends up getting like eight on the first. I think he got maybe three on the second down. And then the Wildcat. The Wildcat is like third and whatever. I need to get in there. Yeah. Yeah, he goes for the three-yard touchdown. It's back into a game. It's seven to ten. And Green Bay, they come back out there. And again, bro, like, hey, second down, they got lucky. They recovered that. Oh, my God. Living right. Yeah, it had to be. Yeah, third down, Love was the last thing. Love was hitting him do Christian with the toe taps on the sidelines. Yeah. Yeah, he hit Wicks, I think, for 18.
51:31And then on the second, I think it was Musgrave for 20-something. And then it was, yeah, they got caught on the third down with 12 men on the field. on that third and seven but they get to the fourth one and one again bro they false started oh i didn't see that i didn't peep that one they false started listen they false started for sure dude was running down there to call the time out oh but only running down there to call the time out because he was going to call it at zero. Dufo started at two. Then you can actually watch the camera and see him running down there. He's seeing him move. Then you've seen him do the timeout call.
52:24Now he's going to talk about he could have been hollering it. No, you're not because the first thing you're doing as you're running down is if you're calling and hollering, you're already doing this to try and get his attention. Yes, Dufo. He calls the timeout at two seconds because you're waiting at zero to be like, I was calling timeout. No, he saw him move. Yes, Debo. When he saw him move, he called the timeout. On this play, when this happened and I saw him, I said, oh, my God. I'm watching. I said, he lied. Yes. I was like, he lied. And you have the timing right there. You see it in real time.
52:59You see it. But he jumped back. So unless the ref is going to say, I heard him hollering timeout. Yeah, that was janky. That was janky. That's janky. They end up scoring on that, dude. They go up 17-7. Hit my boys with the switch route. They kept running them. That's the one thing, too, about the play calling, Debo, that I would say. When they know it's man to man, them dudes running up there and being able to do that stack to where the DBs don't really know. Like, inside, outside, they get your leverage all messed up. So they were doing a great job of running those choice routes. So he gets up, the receiver gets up behind him, runs a little option, run the out route, the outside receiver runs the end.
53:35So they were doing a good job of rubbing those dudes together. That play should have never happened. They wouldn't even win for that on 4-5-6, bro. They wouldn't even win for that. Like, you caught, man. You all the way caught. Like, Detroit actually gets the ball. They come back out. They're able to, you know, make some movement. I think it was second and long. Green Bay got that neutral zone, which helped him convert the third down. And then on that first down, Goff hits Williams again for like 25. It was third and three. He took that short pass he hit him with. Listen, that's another thing right here.
54:16Again, wrap up, bro. You coming in here to bump and slide? What is you doing? He just came. Just trying to throw the shoulder to Debo. They think it's going to take him down. Dude, he's three yards in the backfield. Go put your face on that man and wrap him up. And William, it's small. All he had to do was go where he went and just wrap your hands on his legs. Wrap him up, 1 ,000%. He spun up out of that joint, took it to the apartments. What are you doing? Dude, instead of that, yeah, he bounced up off that thing. He go, what is it, 25? To the crib. To the crib. It's 17 to 14 now. Like, if you had made that play, like, I don't know what would happen.
54:57It really don't matter. Green Bay ends up kneeling out. They're going to halftime. They're up 17-14. That'd be the last points that, you know, them boys would score. But Detroit get back out there. I think they ended up converting one first down. They get to the fourth down in three, and they turn it over on downs. Hey, Dan, at some point, bro, you're going to have to realize when you start getting towards that November, December football, every fourth down ain't third down, and we just go for it. They don't go. They don't make it. That's three points that could have been on there. Now, we could have been sitting 17-17 right now.
55:41That's the easy field goal for the kicker, bro. Easy. Yeah, easy. Instead of that, Green Bay gets the rock back. Incompletion on first down And then he hits Watson for 51 for the Tutty. If you kick the field goal Bruh, that's not a, even if they Go 51, it's not a touchdown Like, it's a whole different Swing. You're talking about like From a, you know, like it's 21-14 That's a huge point swing You get from going from nothing To getting them They get seven points. It's like a ten point Ten point swing, dude Now you're down 21 to 14. Like, bruh, they end up answering, though. I think they scored like 10 more points after the 14.
56:29I think Goff, yeah, that's when Goff went on ahead and used this leg. Yes, he did. For 22? Yeah, like 20-something, man. He went on ahead and did a thing, like 24. Then the second down, Montgomery, he went for 13. First down, he went for another 14. Grandman smack over. Oh, my gosh. Listen. Listen. Montgomery trained out there in Arizona where I trained at, bro. He bought that. He bought that. He bought that. I can tell, guys. I love it. Listen. The boy deadlift almost 700 pounds on track bar. Like, he bought that work. That's what he's living for, to be able to put that foot in the ground and go smack over somebody.
57:12Yeah. I think golf finished it with like a 17-yarder to – what was that? Isaac Tesla. Tesla, that's it. To the Tesla. 21-24. Back into a fight. They trying to get back into it. They trying to get back into it, brother. Second down was in Melton, 14. and the first down it was wicks for 30 because of what? No reroute. He's running down your seam. He's running butt naked down your seam. D-Bo, we both this is what I'm saying. That's why I love watching football because some of the stuff is not that hard. Some of the stuff is like this. They're like, oh, it's a great pass. No, it's a horrible play.
57:58He's running. It's routes on air. What do you expect? Yes. So, yeah, good pass, but not good defense. And then Jacobs gets six on the next play. I think the second down, they converted for the first. And then the next second down, they fumbled it. Recovery. But they get it. Yeah, but they get it. And then third down, it's an incompletion. They got it good, but you get a face mask. that helps them get a first down. Detroit, you can't be hitting yourself in the face and you're having a hard time stopping them anyway. And then second down, love his Wix. Another one of them motions. Man to man. Switch routes.
58:52Quick. You know what I'm saying? That's what you go get when you mad up like that. You go get that all day. They got to learn. You got to learn to play a little zone there or be able to run the in and out and make sure he gets the outside man. But they ran those routes very, very quick. And the thing about Detroit, they weren't backing up. They weren't like – they were in the end zone feet playing it. As soon as he catches it, if it's one yard he needs, like they would attack as soon as he got it. But I'm like, dude, on the goal line, they only need one yard. So that don't matter. Like you got to make a play forward.
59:24You got to go ahead and take a chance and put your hands on him. Yes, you got to. Right now, beat him up. Beat him up in them first five yards. You got to beat him up. You only got a yard to work with it. They go down, what is it, 31-21? Detroit, they get out there. I think Goff hits Williams again for like 15. The next play, they try a pitch pass. They try the flickerish thing, whatever that was. Bruh, Goff, I ain't, dude, he dropped, how you dropped the football? Almost lost it. Almost lost it, lost it like. Yeah. Like, got lucky and he covered it. Yeah. He got to do better there. Yeah. And then second down, Gibbs said, I'm going to go ahead and say, y 'all, he went for 14.
1:00:11The third down, he went for another 12. I think they converted one more first down after that, and then they get to fourth and three. My good man. They go for it again. Goff shakes loose, gets out. He throws it to Williams. It's a little behind him. You got to catch that. We pros. He still could have got it. No question. He still could have got it. He drops it. It's turnover on downs. Again, another situation where I'm like, yo, just take the points. You got six more now from where you're at now. It's a totally different game at 27-31. Take the points. You can't keep doing it. And he had that happen, dude.
1:01:00Like in the previous, you know, seasons where they were in the playoffs and he was just going forward and forth. Like, yo, take the points, bro. I understand you do it at certain times. But at some point, you got to be like, whoa. Like, it's a lot on the line. I can't come back from this next week. This going to be it. And if you keep losing them like that, you ain't going to get to the playoffs. Like, you can't. At some point, I think he has to realize, okay, early in the season when I could come back from this, but now I'm leaving points out there that I could have. In big games. Yes, in big games, dude.
1:01:38It's not like you're up and you're like, okay, I'm up by... Even if I'm up, I'm not doing that, bro. You gotta get some points. Points are hard to come from in this league, man. You already leaving something out there. Especially when my defense ain't stopping them. like they not stopping him all night you seen that they weren't doing that so turn them on downs for them Packers get the ball back Packers get the ball back Detroit ends up I think forcing a three and out with the help of a missed P.I. like dude had that arm I don't even know how to miss that like you calling catches and then you miss that like listen and they got all these cameras around everywhere what happened to where i could review uh a not call of a pi did they take that away or something because i ain't seen nobody do it that's like you can see it right there it's automatic i don't know maybe they took that away i who knows i'm not i'm not i don't i don't know i'm not i'm not too into exactly how they're Yeah, how they changed that around.
1:02:50Detroit gets out there and Goff hits, what was the dude's number? Dude's name, 18? What was the name? I think he went like for 18. He hit him for 18. And then he gets sacked by Parsons again. Okay. And third down, he's sacked again. Illegal contact. But they got an illegal touch. Lucky they are. Lucky Duck. So they ended up getting the first down. And then second down. And then Williams takes it 44. 44. Yes. They convert. I think it was maybe one more first down after that. And then they get to another third and short. Sat. And here come Parsons again. Parsons was balling, bro. Parsons was balling.
1:03:47Out of control. out of control. There's such thing as both teams winning in the trade. And now you want to take the field goal. Now you want to take the field goal. You want to take the field goal now after you have seen your defense can't stop them. Okay? They haven't stopped them, but you want to take the field goal now and hope that with three minutes left your defense is going to stop them. And you score the field goal is 31 to 24. Green Bay gets the ball and runs out the last three minutes of the game because they converted on fourth down to Wicks for 18. I'm at a loss on that one. Detroit got some issues, don't get me wrong.
1:04:43Green Bay, They just made the plays when they counted, dude. They stayed ahead of the chains for most of the game. They rushed the ball well enough. I think Jacobs was 17 for 83. Milton only was like two for 15. And Love was 18 for 235, 234. but it was four touchdowns and big plays big yardage big chunks Wicks was six for 94 with two touchdowns Watson was on four for 80 but he had a huge 51 yard touchdown bro Detroit they got to realize starting late november like that that that's playoff football dude like every every fourth down you don't go for it you got to do it situationally and kick some field goals man i mean golf didn't play bad he started off oh for what three but he ended up 20 or 26 for two what 256 like 132 passer ratings that's oh and like when you look at it they didn't even do bad as a total for rushing.
1:06:09They had 30 rushes for about 119 yards. Green Bay only had 30 rushes for 125 yards. But the situational things, they were able to get more big plays and their defense got off the field where Detroit didn't. And they didn't. They converted on the fourth downs. Although both those fourth downs, I think, shouldn't have been called. No, it definitely shouldn't have been made. The second one, for sure. Okay, if he on the first one, maybe he had it, maybe he didn't. You can say, okay, well, he had control. No, he knocked it to his other hand. He didn't swap that over, dude. He knocked it to his other hand.
1:06:52Although it may have looked like to you, oh, he was swapping it. No. No. But the second one, the false start, that was a false start, bro. Yes. is you can see it on the timing like at some point y 'all doing all this replay this virtual it is all this other stuff like let's let's use this to to correct it you got all you want to do all the slow-mo when a defensive player hits somebody y 'all want to slow it down 50 billion uh shots per second be like oh he's doing it according to his helmet hit him in the chin strap a little bit i'm right yeah his helmet did touch his chin strap you see like it covers the white there.
1:07:29Y 'all seen that man lose control to the others. Bruh. They like points. They like points, D-Bow. Yeah. It's wild. They got to fix some stuff over there, bruh. But the Cowboys, they ended up beating the Chiefs 31-28. I ain't going to really go through this. This is what it comes down to me. this is what it comes down to me for me is that the chief defense sells even though they are a good defense bro they sell situationally they sell a big play wise like they're an eighth ranked defense but they're 23rd per play like every play that you get against them they're 23rd per play so So their 18th player rush, their 25th per pass, which means if you have them out there enough time, you're going to be able to win on them situationally.
1:08:37Their third down percentage, I think they're tied for 28th, which to me, that's 29. So the offense is not putting up hella points anymore. They're not able to get large sums of controlling the time of possession, which means their defense is now out there. And you add in penalties and all that, and again, got to the end of the game. The defense couldn't stop them situationally. They can't make the plays when it counts. And it's not that old, high-flying, go-get-40 points, can't see the offense anymore. I'm with you, Debo. I mean, I love the Chiefs. I think their defense has to play probably a little bit better.
1:09:23And at the same time, their offense is still not that half-line Chiefs offense to where you know every time they're going to be scoring up in the 30s. I think this one, too, was a little bit more for me, Debo. Dallas. Oh, yeah, don't get me wrong. Dallas played well. Dak Prescott, not just trying to like – but like when I'm looking at quarterbacks now, I would wish, you know what I'm saying, just looking for – as a Steelers fan, as the Browns fan, having a quarterback that's really just going back there throwing for 300. You know what I'm saying? He had to pick early because he got hit when he threw it.
1:09:53But just being able to throw for 300 yards like it's nothing. You know what I'm saying? Standing up in the pocket, realizing you do have George Pickens. You do have CeeDee Lamb. You know what I'm saying? And then X's and O's versus Jimmy's and the Joe's. My Jimmy's and Joe's are better than your Jimmy's and Joe's. If you're going to play man-to-man, I'm going to throw it to George Pickens on Watson. Watson wanted no part of him. I love Watson. But then, Nick, you got two men, inside leverage, and he gets across your face for the slant. And not only across your face, then you flagging him, holding him, and all that.
1:10:25So I'm like, just for me, their defense is solid, but it was more Dallas offensive side of the ball. And then on defense side of the ball, just being able to try to stop the run, just being able to, like, they still scored 28 points, but, like, they have some players. Hollywood Brown, Rice, you know, Patrick Mahomes still creating and still doing what he does. I was really excited to watch Dallas, though, because I'm like, they actually look like a good team. You know what I'm saying? The defense wasn't just out there giving up everything. They was moving. They're looking better. The defense is able to hold.
1:10:56Hold a little bit. But then, you know, you got on the offensive side, you got that man that's going to be, you got George Pickens and CD. At the end of the day, they looking sweet. Running game was still, you're still using it. But then you got Dak just back there looking like he's running stuff. So, I was, I like the way Dallas looked. I like the way Dak looked. I like the way that he goes to those receivers. Shout out to CD for stepping up, not dropping passes. If they have those one-on-one matchups with them versus these receivers, it's going to be a tough day. So I like how the Cowboys work.
1:11:27For sure, for sure. Joe, you know what time it is, man? Yes, sir, yes, sir. It's time to play. Play or fade. Presented by Power. Presented by PrizePix.
1:11:51Okay, look here. It's prized picks. I got my braces, okay? All right, Joe. Here's how it works. I made a lineup of picks for tonight's Black Friday game. Okay? You either play my lineup or you fade it and you tell me why. Okay? so this is what i'm going with caleb he gonna throw a pick and jaylen gonna throw a pick this is why i say caleb go throw a pick is because he is inconsistent and philly is not go not catch something like the other team that played them last year did i'm not gonna say their name okay okay all right and jaylen they're gonna have him throwing the ball and i believe philly will win but they're going to have to run the ball so that's why i have him for less on the 211 passing and i have saquon for more on the 77 rushing because i believe they're going to win and he's going to have to pass but at some point who is number one in interception ratio is it Caleb no I'm talking about per class attempt Chicago yes yes yes okay so that's why I have both of them more and I have Hertz on the total I have him less and I have Saquon more what do you think I think from last week, when I'm out here playing, I think Caleb probably going to throw a pick.
1:13:41I think Jalen Hurts. Why do you think Caleb going to throw a pick? Because he's going to have to. I think he's going to throw the ball a lot because he's just trying to get some points, trying to figure out a way to win. I think he's going to throw a pick. I think my man, what's my man's name? Mitchell, the corner for the Eagles. Yes, young boy Mitchell, cold-blooded. I'm actually going to tell you who's going to get the pick. who's going to get the pick. Hurts, he might be trying to force feed to Jalen Brown. I mean, A.J. Brown, because you know he's been trying to get to rock a lot, so he might force feed him, might get tipped in the air, probably might throw a pick.
1:14:18Two picks there. I'm with you. We all together. Jalen Hurts under 211. Yeah, right around 200 is what I was looking at. You know what I'm saying? Because I like Devontae Smith. He's going to steal. He's going to probably get off. He's going to get A.J. Brown a couple of passes. Nothing crazy. He don't really throw for over 211 anyway. So right around 190, good. Saquon, he has not been performing the way he knows he can perform. He's going to want to go get a hundo. He wants a hundo for show. So I'm playing this. I'm playing. I'm playing all this. Okay. My dude, Joe, he's playing all this. Now look here, man.
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1:15:49That's what we're going to do. That's what Joe said. I am saying, I don't know if that's going to happen. All right, look, we got a Super Chat. We got a Super Chat. $5 Super Chat donated by Ninja Grows, and they want to know this. You can only pick one. Troy Potamalu, Ray Lewis, TJ Watt, or Antonio Brown?
1:16:21Who they talking to, me or you? I think they talking to you, Debo. Troy Potamalu. Y 'all asking stupid questions. Troy Potamalu, not a question. hey stop playing that's baby Jesus hey bro that man you asking stupid questions man Troy yeah all day all day listen man we want to thank y 'all for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe hey tomorrow giving away two of two to the winners be ready Be on the lookout Yes sir Hey man Appreciate you guys man Make sure y 'all Check on the lookout To see who gonna win these tickets To come rock with me and Debo At the game Cause it's going to be a blast Alright Thank you guys for showing up Make sure you like and subscribe We will see you on Monday And we out How you doing today Joe?
1:17:24Let me tell you something Debo Devo, it's my time real quick.
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