Deebo & Joe - Browns bench Joe Flacco, Dillon Gabriel disses Sheduer? + 49ers beat Rams

3 Oct 2025 · 1 h · 22 chapters

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In short

The episode is a sports-heavy debate show focused on recent NFL quarterback and roster storylines, plus a long discussion of football dress-code fines and player mindset/conditioning.

Topic

49ers vs Rams recap (San Francisco wins in overtime after a 20-20 tie), Browns QB situation (Joe Flacco backing up Dillon Gabriel; Shador “shade” rumors), and other NFL hot takes (Deshaun Elliott fine/dress code rant; CJ Stroud comments about losing athleticism; A.J. Brown trade chatter; Tua’s concussion-prevention diet/fluids).

Guests/backgrounds

James “Deebo” Harrison and Joe Hayden (co-hosts). No outside guests are named in the transcript.

Key claims

Rams’ overtime fourth-and-one gamble is defensible; Purdy is preferred over Mac Jones but injuries matter; Gabriel’s “waiting for opportunity” comments aren’t really aimed at Shador; Elliott’s dress-code fine is petty but rules exist; Stroud’s “getting old at 23” mindset is concerning; A.J. Brown’s frustration is about targets/numbers, not wanting to hurt the team.

Notable examples

49ers’ blocked extra point, multiple fourth-down conversions, late fumbles, and overtime field-goal sequence; Elliott tagging NFL/NFLPA over black-tie dress-code; Stroud’s “not as fast as high school” quote; A.J. Brown’s reported ~30M/year contract and 4-0 team context.

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49ers vs Rams Game Breakdown

2:58 to 6:54

Detailed analysis of the 49ers and Rams game, including key plays and strategies.

“So the Rams went on ahead and I would say lost it in overtime or however you want to do it.”

Debate on Fourth Down Decision

6:54 to 8:12

Discussion on the controversial fourth down decision by the Rams in overtime.

“You think they should have went for it on fourth down?”

Quarterback Comparisons: Purdy vs. Jones

8:12 to 12:14

Comparison between quarterbacks Brock Purdy and Mac Jones, discussing their performances.

“Would have did the same thing because looking at the tie, a tie feels like a loss to me, dude.”

Dylan Gabriel's Comments and Controversy

12:14 to 14:00

Discussion about Dylan Gabriel's remarks and the ensuing media speculation.

“I mean, it's a combination of all that too.”

Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders Dynamics

14:00 to 16:45

Discussion about the quarterback competition and media scrutiny surrounding Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders.

“Dylan didn't say nothing I felt like that was attacking Shador.”

Joe Flacco's Surprising Bench News

16:45 to 18:08

Analysis of Joe Flacco's recent performance and the implications of being benched.

“They know it's going to get caught up somewhere.”

Deshaun Elliott's Rant and NFL Fines

18:08 to 19:15

Exploration of Deshaun Elliott's criticism of the NFL's dress code and his recent fine.

“They drafted two quarterbacks, and you've been playing bad, and you've been in the league for 17, 18 years.”

Deshaun Elliott's Rant and NFL Fines

21:32 to 22:58

Exploration of Deshaun Elliott's criticism of the NFL's dress code and his recent fine.

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NFL Dress Code Regulations

23:05 to 26:33

Discussion on the NFL's dress code and players' reactions to fines.

“and fine you on Wednesday or Monday or Tuesday, whatever it is, you know, you know what you're doing wrong.”

Athleticism at 23: Myth vs. Reality

26:33 to 28:00

Debate on the expectations of athletic performance at age 23 based on player experiences.

“And I just think I got to just continue to be hard on myself about not only just lifting weights, but eating the right foods.”
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Quarterback Mindset and Performance

28:00 to 35:00

Discussing the mindset of quarterbacks regarding fitness and performance expectations.

“I'd do that every three days straight before I was like, you know what?”

A.J. Brown's Frustration and Team Dynamics

35:00 to 40:30

Analyzing A.J. Brown's frustrations with his performance and its impact on the team.

“Do you believe his frustrations is cool?”

The Value of Super Bowls vs. Career Earnings

40:30 to 42:00

Debating the importance of Super Bowls compared to personal career earnings for players.

“I'm probably going to go with the Super Bowls.”

Analyzing NFL Contracts and Guarantees

42:00 to 44:22

Discussion on NFL contracts, focusing on guarantees and player performance.

“I don't understand it like you said you just signed what was it three year 96 million, 84 million guaranteed just last year.”

Tua's Carbs and Fluids Strategy

44:22 to 45:00

Exploring Tua's approach to avoiding concussions through diet.

“Tua said that he is now focused on carbs and fluids to avoid concussions.”

Tua's Carbs and Fluids Strategy

45:22 to 46:27

Exploring Tua's approach to avoiding concussions through diet.

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Understanding Concussions and Brain Health

46:30 to 48:34

Discussion on the relationship between neck strength and concussions.

“You know, your brain needs some sort of, what do they call it?”

Personal Concussion Stories

48:34 to 51:40

Hosts share their personal experiences with concussions during their careers.

“It's just, it's up to, you know, it's in each individual.”

Kicking Balls and NFL Rules

51:40 to 56:00

Discussion about changes in kicking ball procedures and their impact on field goals.

“Do I And then now, like I said, we got the knowledge.”

Football Equipment Preferences and Rules

56:00 to 1:01:40

Discussion on the preferences and regulations surrounding footballs used in games.

“You just got the right amount of PI air in it.”

Browns vs Vikings Game Preview

1:01:40 to 1:04:21

Predictions and banter about the upcoming game between the Browns and Vikings.

“He said, what's up from Heath Miller country?”

Browns vs Vikings Game Preview

1:05:45 to 1:07:12

Predictions and banter about the upcoming game between the Browns and Vikings.

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1:45Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. Joe, how you doing over there in London with all that Browns gear on?

2:06James Harrison:I'm doing great. Cleveland Browns, London Takeover is happening right now. Yesterday, we went out on a boat, met with like 250 fans, me and my man Josh Cripps. Out here with me having a blast. Yeah, tell Cribs what I said. You know, Kenoke State. Yeah, for sure. He told us he'd be watching it. He'd be tapped into the podcast. So, you know, he definitely showed love. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Yeah, that's my guy, you know. That was our quarterback my senior year. He was our starting quarterback. So, yeah, I got to have a hot little year with him. Like a little Vic over there, you know what I'm saying?

2:45James Harrison:Man, and Cribs is so good, bro. You know, he from D.C. We from the same area. So he was the man back at the crib. Then he went to Kent. Then I was able to play with him in Cleveland. So fire. Oh, yeah. 100%, man. Let's get this started, brother. So the Rams went on ahead and I would say lost it in overtime or however you want to do it. But the 49ers ended up beating the Rams. And, you know, the first quarter, it kind of started off like smooth for San Fran. Dude, they went down the field. they scored a touchdown they scored a touchdown on the first drive and they had like two penalties bro it was a false start in a in a holding and they still were able to go down there and get a touch and then you know la gets to rock the next possession and they sack him they put him behind the chains previewed and you know and then the preceding possession they got two fourth downs they converted to san francisco converted two fourth downs dude and oh they also had a rough from the penalty that helped them get an extra 15 but it's 14 nothing now LA then comes out and they actually are driving the ball and fumble San Francisco recovered but they got lucky there that you know San Fran didn't make nothing of it and they got the ball back I believe with no we're still in there so easy they went on ahead and I think they scored a touchdown in the next drive They ended up, I believe, taking advantage of a rookie out there.

4:17I think, what was his name? I think his number was 20 or something. They kind of used him on that drive, you know what I'm saying? They was going smack at him? Yeah, they was going. I think Devontae, he got a couple penalties and all that, but they ended up scoring that first touchdown. So it was, I think it was 7-14 by then. And right before the half, San Fran was able to get a field goal, ended up halftime 17-7. Okay. Yeah, so once they came back out, you know, L.A. goes to driving again. They're doing pretty good, but the field goal kicker, he misses the field goal, dude. Like, so San Fran gets the ball back that next possession.

4:59They get a field goal. It's 20-7. I'm thinking, yeah, maybe it might be a little less competition than I thought, and then the boy Stafford comes alive, dude. He get Puka involved. They score on back-to-back possessions, but the extra point on the second touchdown is blocked, bro. 20-20 tie going in. I'm like, okay, we got action, bro. It is looking like, yes, we got a good game here. I don't really care who wins. You know what I'm saying? I just want to see good football. Yeah. Yeah, San Fran gone ahead down there and they score a field goal, but they gave Stafford like three minutes. That's way too much.

5:44Way too much time. Just under three minutes, dude. That's way too much time, bro. And L.A. is driving down there and they get to like two, bro. Dude fumbles the rock. San Fran recovers. I'm thinking game over with. Turnovers. Yeah. like it's done like everything is going to be over with from here and LA gets the ball back with like 40 something seconds left dude and they end up getting a field goal to

6:24James Harrison:to end regulation yeah to end regulation it's tied up again they jump into overtime San Fran kicks the field goal in overtime They're able to do that. But, you know, they got the two-possession thing going on right now where you get a chance. Yeah. And then L.A. goes for it on fourth down, bro. Fourth and one. Do not get it. And then, you know, it's over with. That's the end of overtime game over with. What do you think? You think they should have went for it on fourth down? What do you think of the call of L.A. going for it on fourth down in overtime? I like the coach trying to win the game. You know what I'm saying?

7:04James Harrison:Like, end of the day, it's fourth and one. We need one yard. Can we get a yard to win the game? You know what I'm saying? And just go out here and not do no ties. Like, I appreciate him playing to win and not playing to tie or playing to lose. I think he shows his players like, man, I believe. Let's get this fourth and one. Let's go down here and score and walk out of the stadium with a dub. You know what I'm saying? So you can look at it both ways, man. Kick the field goal. Tie it up. See what you're going to do. But at the end of the day, I like the coaches going to believe in my squad. We got one yard.

7:33James Harrison:Let's get this fourth and one. Let's pinagle and get this touchdown and walk out of the stadium with a dub. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not mad at them. You look crazy when you don't get it. Your linemen look crazy. Like, you're running back. Everybody, you got smacked. It stopped for fourth and one. So you feel like it's the wrong decision. But if they would have made that, then everybody would be looking like, oh, yeah, there we go. Believe me. Like, we can make these decisions. Our coach believes in us. Right now, they look silly. But hindsight at the time. I don't think they look silly because for me, you had an extra point that was blocked.

8:06Missed a field goal, and we're in overtime. It could be maybe a block, a miss. You know what? It's only a yard. We can get a yard. Like, totally agree with it. Would have did the same thing because looking at the tie, a tie feels like a loss to me, dude. I don't like, man, you're all that for nothing. Like, yeah, a tie, it just feels too much like a loss to me, bro. I can't work with that. And, you know, even with San Fran still won, I mean, they ended up losing a couple players that were hurt, that ended up getting hurt and not having everyone there that was already, you know, hurt and not able to play.

8:48Do you think that Matt Jones is better than Purdy, or do you think that he is compared to Purdy? Do you think we have a quarterback maybe issue? Not issue, but we have a quarterback competition. I understand you just paid this man a bunch of money, But it looks like to me, just from, you know, looking at the eye test, I need a quarterback that could come in there, make plays, and not turn the ball over because all my other pieces can help him win as long as he's able to, you know, contribute and not do anything that hurts. Yeah. I feel you.

9:37James Harrison:I think I like Brock Purdy more than I do like Mac Jones. I just think that it kind of sucks when he doesn't have all his weapons. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a lot of injuries over there in San Fran. And I think that that's not really – that's not helping him. I think when he had all of his – when he first came in there, he had everybody. He had his whole arsenal. He had his tight end. He had Kittle. He had the running back there healthy. So, he was able to kind of get the ball around a lot more. And I think now, with him not having as many resources, it's kind of making him look – obviously not as good because you don't have the talent around him, but I don't think he's like a – he's just a do-it-all quarterback.

10:16James Harrison:He's not going to make – he's not going to elevate your whole team. He's going to be a piece that can be able to keep it consistent and be able to make sure once everybody's there, I'm not going to fuck it up. Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but you got Mac out here with none of that. And no, I didn't expect him to win this game. I'm not going to lie to you. I just thought that, you know, with the defensive line of L.A. that, you know, it was going to be too much. No, we talking about Mack Jones, the quarterback for the goddamn Patriots. No, he's not. He was never a staffer. No, he's not.

10:46No, he's not, bro. He's the backup quarterback now for LA. I mean, for the 49ers, sorry. Damn. See, I'm stupid. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. That's what I'm saying. He went out there and did all that. So you think Mack backing up Purdy in San Fran, so you think he should get a chance to get out there? I ain't saying he should get a chance to get out there. I'm just saying right now I got, you know, I got a pistol sitting in my pocket right now, and I done seen what it could do without all the weapons, and I done seen what my other guy does with all the weapons. What did it look like if I get an opportunity to give him all the weapons?

11:22I understand, like, he didn't do well in New England, but you got a different team. He had nobody in New England. He got a play caller. He got somebody calling the right plays. That's, I guess, obviously fitting, you know, what he can do at that position. I mean, he got a whole, you know, he got CC, CMC. Like, what are you talking about? That's two players right there. That's running back and the receiver. So, with that combination, do we really need to go out here and get a$150,$200 million quarterback? Or can we work with what we have right here in Mac?

11:55James Harrison:No, I mean, I ain't gonna lie to you. That makes complete sense. Because Mac didn't look crazy out there in New England. Didn't have nowhere near, I think, the offensive skill talent that San Francisco has. So if you give him the chance to be able to be back there with some dogs, I think he might look, like you see, he might look real good. He looking good right now. For sure. Or is it the play calling? I don't know. I mean, it's a combination of all that too. But, I mean, he looking good. We might have a little bit of court controversy. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. Oh, for sure. Speaking of quarterback controversy, they say Dylan Gabriel, he's not starting for the Browns.

12:32So they said he was throwing a sublingual type, you know, hit at your door. I think we got the sound bite right here. Listen to it. Here you go. I smile because it's like a moment you prep for and you are extremely excited for. But also got to realize that it's extreme focus. And that's what I've continued to harp on. But you wait for the perfect time. You know, you're going to wait a whole lifetime. So for me, I'm just I've always been ready for every moment.

13:04so do you think that is throwing some shade at your door not going and taking that opportunity to maybe go to baltimore and you know hindsight 50 50 knowing the future he would be starting right now do you think that's what it is that's what they're trying to say i didn't get that off that did you get that off that debuff no i got i got i got none of that off that dude i got none people out here. Yeah, they reaching. They clout chasing. They looking for something that they could write and read about. I don't know. I don't understand how that even, you know, flipped over to that. Now you see why Shador went and did a mime interview because if you don't say nothing, they can't twist nothing.

13:48James Harrison:Yes. Everybody is so fucking messy when it comes to this because it's Dylan Gabriel and Shador. You can't say nothing. Dylan didn't say nothing I felt like that was attacking Shador. And if Shador says anything, they're going to crucify the man. So he tries not to, then he's going to, then he's going to mind you. So like, I feel him. You can't win for losing. You know what I'm saying? And I don't think Dylan said anything going at Shador in that sound bite. He's just trying to, he's trying to avoid controversy. He's saying, I'm just waiting for my opportunity. You know, like what can the kid say?

14:30James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think that they're trying to switch up stuff and put them into real. There's a quarterback battle, obviously. Listen, man. They're trying to say a little bit of everything. Shador had a famous song in 24. It was called Perfect Timing. You know what I'm saying? Yes. They're trying to connect everything to something. Like, dude. Oh. Make things bust out my AP. Perfect Timing. Right. Like, come on, man. Like, you can't say nothing. Like, it's – listen, I don't believe he's going that deep into depth to be able to – soon as something comes up, you know, a perfect time.

15:08Come on. No, man.

15:10James Harrison:That dude is trying – I think he's trying – he's trying to get ready. He's dealing – and I'm rooting for Dylan. I'm rooting for Dylan Gabriel. It's not his bad that he was drafted third round. It's not his bad that he's in the position that he's in. And every time I've seen him in the preseason, he hasn't looked bad. He's looked like he knew a little something. Like, he's throwing the ball. I love the snap. He gets the ball out fast. So I'm rooting for him. I want him to be out there and be successful. But it's just when you have Shador on your team, everybody, anything the kid does, they maximize it.

15:43James Harrison:He tries to chill. He's been trying to, you know what I'm saying, work, get it done. And now him not even being the backup quarterback, that's kind of, he's just, if I was Shador, I'd feel some type of way because I know I'm a baller. I know what I got. And I just have to keep it humble. I'm keeping it chill. I'm trying to be as professional as possible. But as soon as I say something, now I can't say anything. So I feel for him. I know he's just trying to wait for his opportunity. And then it's just another slap in the face to when it's like, now you're not even going to be the backup to him.

16:14James Harrison:So Flacco is backing up Dylan Gabriel. So I just feel bad for Shador because I know he wants to play. He knows the skill set that he has. And he just wants to be able to go out and perform. There's nothing he can do, nothing he can talk about. He's the backup quarterback. So why you keep putting the camera in my face? Don't ask me no questions. They're like, what you want me to say? Listen, they clout chase. They need something to talk about, dude. They need that. You know, I don't understand why all these reporters is doing that, especially a lot of them being like, you're in Cleveland. Like, I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't understand.

16:45For clout, for chase. They know it's going to get caught up somewhere. Yeah, Joe said on the bench and he said, I don't think I foresaw it. what do you mean that he don't think he foresaw it? I don't understand that. Like, what didn't you foresee? Joe, you got, what, six picks, one touchdown in four games? They drafted two quarterbacks just in case. They got like a, what was it, a third and a fifth. And, like, what didn't you foresee? Like, it was some point in time that if things weren't going well, which they aren't, like, you done threw more picks. Six times more picks than Tuck. That's crazy.

17:29The writing was on the wall. Yeah. I mean, unless your vision don't went bad too, Joe. I hope not.

17:37James Harrison:You couldn't foresee that? That would have been in the back of my head. This boy in here. I think it might be my time. Right behind him. That man getting a little bit. He got some first team reps. Hold up now. You know what I'm saying?

18:00Oh, man. I don't know how you didn't foresee that one, brother. No, Flacco, he's wilding. I think he, I don't know.

18:08James Harrison:I don't know why he did. I think he lied. But you had to obviously see it. I think he lied. They drafted two quarterbacks, and you've been playing bad, and you've been in the league for 17, 18 years. You know how this go. Right. You are right there. you are holding down the fort until you not, and you wasn't. So they going to be in the young boys. Yeah, it's fine, baby. Like I said, you wasn't holding down the fort. Like they got two young boys in there. They got you there just, yeah, you go ahead and try and show them something. If we can win with you, we'll do it. We know, you know, maybe they ain't ready.

18:41We don't want to throw them into the fire yet. But now, you know what? It done got hot, you know. We might mess around and lose our job. So we got to go ahead and see what we could do with what we went out here and drafted. See if it could give us some hope for, you know, the next, for the rest of the season, rather. You know what I'm saying? Thousand percent. Yeah. So my guy, Deshaun Elliott, he over here, he had a profane rant, I guess. He posted his, he got a fine. He told him, count your fucking days. Y 'all worried about the wrong thing. We got a picture of that. Let's fix the things that actually mean something.

19:22Did he get fined by the team or by the league? He got fined by the league, and he tagged the NFL and the NFLPA. Now, he's upset that he got fined for wearing a, I believe it was a black tie. What do you think about this, man? You know how that is, Debo. He said, listen, man, he said y 'all worried about the wrong thing. Let's fix the things that actually mean something.

19:46James Harrison:I mean, some of the shit, it's cold. It's dress code, like socks. I would get fined all the time for my socks. If your knee's being exposed, you know what I'm saying? Then in Cleveland, sometimes your cleats had to be. Look here, Joe. Let me tell you, Joe. This is where I'm at with it. He tagged the NFL and NFLPA. NFLPA. Executive Director. That's going to be me, okay? Yes. I'm the person that you would be talking to. Now, here is what it is. Hey, Elliot, don't you come at me with this bullshit. You know getting damn well, you can't be wearing a different color towel and all that other stuff. They go through the whole dress code.

20:32So if you want to do something out there, just like Joe said, you go get a fine for showing your knees. You go get a fine for not wearing your socks. How are you supposed to wear them? You're working for the NFL and the Steelers. You know that was coming. So don't bring this bullshit to my table when I'm NFLPA executive director, okay? You knew what you was doing.

20:51James Harrison:Deebo, that's exactly right. Because when I go out there and they're telling me your knees is out, Joe, you're going to get fined for that. They make sure when you come back in the locker room, they let you know what's good, what's not. And you got plenty of towels. And if they don't catch it, don't mean they ain't going to catch it later on during the rest of the thing. He's dribbling the ball with everything on the line. He's driving down the pitch. He's facing price hikes and cuts past him. Carrier Contracts tries to block him. Oh, he leaves him in the dust. He's at the edge of the box. He cuts past the nonstop group chat trash talk.

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23:17Yeah, I know it ain't right, but you know what? I'm going to take whatever that fine is because it's worth it for me to look like this. Nah, I ain't taking no fine. I'll be uniformed out. I'll be head to toe, A to Z, one, two, three. I ain't letting y 'all take no money for a fine.

23:33James Harrison:And you won't get fined for that, though. So, like, at the end of the day, there's ways that you can put your gear on, right color, and still look as sweet as you want to, still look as fresh as you want to. But there is rules to make us look uniform, to make everybody look like we're professional football teams out there. That's why, like, college football, having their jersey all rolled up in their stomach, stomach's out, you know what I'm saying? No knee pads, basically just thigh pads out there. You know what I'm saying? Like, they look like they're playing in the backyard sometimes. You know what I'm saying?

24:03James Harrison:And some of the players are like, dude, you don't look cool. You look bad. Put your jersey. That doesn't look cool. You look kind of weird. So I think there's a reason why you have to have certain things in the league. And you may think it's like, oh, man, that's petty shit. But that's why we look professional. Everybody looks like the NFL out there because we have to be to check dress code. Exactly, dude. You working for somebody else, man. You working in Nate and Nate company. They got a dress code. I was taking that fine. So sometimes if you want to be cool and wear something different, just know.

24:35James Harrison:Take it on the head. I did it because I was trying to be sweet. And everybody has, every team has a guy that marks everything down. If you want to go up to him and be like, yo, am I good with this? Am I good with that? When you know you got something bad on, he's going to let you know. He's going to tell you. You took a chance, man. You took a chance. You got caught. And now you upset. I don't know why. I don't understand it because you knew what the penalty would be. Like, that's there. I was never one that was like, you know what, man? I got to take this, you know,$10 ,000,$15 ,000 fine because I got to look good.

25:13I got to make sure I got, no. No.

25:18James Harrison:I was taking the fine sometimes. I'm not going to lie. Sometimes I was doing the socks a little bit. They was getting me for my socks. I'm like, I don't need my knees covered. I don't feel as fast. I'm sorry. So sometimes I'm like this, man, y 'all, I'm out of here, nigga. My knees out. And I knew. I was going to get that fine. I was going to get hit. Sometimes with the visors, you know, you can't wear dark visors unless you have the script. You got a script, yeah. So they be telling Joe, I wear it for pregame. You got to take that out, Joe. Right. How many guys wear their visor for pregame and come back out?

25:46So a lot of the times, the dude may not even say nothing to you because he's like, oh, this your pregame. Look, you're going to come back out and you're going to be in the right attire. So they don't want to sit there marking down 65 things. When the dudes come back out, it's all gone. Like, it don't, yeah. You're not getting no support over here for this, man. That's just not how it might be these young players, man. Like, it don't make no sense. He's talking about they worried about the wrong thing. I think you might be worried about the wrong thing. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you're right.

26:25He said he lost his athleticism at 23. Listen to what he said, man. Being 23, I'm not fully in my grown man body all the way yet. I'm still growing every year. And I just think I got to just continue to be hard on myself about not only just lifting weights, but eating the right foods. That's been a big thing, too. So, yeah, that's just a thing where I think the explosiveness comes from being better with my diet, being better with stretching. And I feel like I'm getting old. So, I got it. I'm not as quick as I used to be. I was watching my high school stuff a couple days ago. I was like 180, and I was rolling.

27:09Not no more. But, yeah, I try to just be better with that stuff so I can run fast. All right. What you got to say about that, man?

27:23James Harrison:Hey, man. man, CJ Stroud, man, that's an unathletic answer. Like, at 23, you're supposed to be, you're primed. That's where you're just, like, 23 to 26. Like, that's when you're the best of the best of the best that you could ever be, athletically. I mean, for me, I was peak. You know what I'm saying? Like, right around that age, like, that's when you got your grown man. You starting to get into your grown man. strength you're not 18 19 you know i'm saying like you you getting it you feel it you starting to grow into your body by that time two three years in the league like boy this is supposed to be the best version of yourself that i've ever seen you know i'm saying so i understand like when you being being able to diet better you know i'm saying like understanding your food and being able to take care of your body more well he's trying to say he was dieting better in high school than he was that's a pro that don't make no crazy to me dude you're a 23 year old at 23 bro I could go three days, no sleep, rise, sun, shine, all that.

28:28Yes. Party to the wheels will fell off. Still be at the gym by 6, 7. I'd do that every three days straight before I was like, you know what? I might need to get some sleep. Mm-hmm. No, for sure. What are you talking? Maybe he's just joking, man. That got it. He's talking about he hit a wall, a wall at 23, 24. Stop playing, man. Stop playing. You want to see a wall? It's a little wall at 30. It's another wall at 35. If you're blessed enough to be around the league that long, then you go really hit some walls. And if you're talking like this right now at 23, I don't know. The Texans might want to be looking for another quarterback because you already giving me the perception that you personally thinking in your head that you ain't got what you had in high school right now.

29:12That is not something that I want to hear from my quarterback who I'm supposed to make my franchise player for the next, hopefully, six, eight years. Nah, that ain't what I'm looking for. Maybe we might have to start looking for another one to pick up. Like I said, I just.

29:29James Harrison:That doesn't sound too positive. I mean, I hope at the end of the day, I like C.J. Strauss. He's a great kid. I think that he just, I don't know. He needs to talk about his food and talk about his workouts and all that stuff. I think that's something where, like, dude, that's what you, like, be on that. What are we talking about? This is where, like, you're supposed to be building up to this stuff, to getting better. It seems like he's like, no, like, I mean, I don't know. It didn't seem like a real good, it didn't seem athletic to me. That's for damn sure. That's what it did seem like. I mean, you're supposed to, you know, like, you're supposed to grow, get better, get all that.

30:03You know, like even when when I came in, you know, my first 2002 until about 2005, six, around there. Oh, like you said, I'm burning the candle at both ends. But then I'm like, you know what, man, like this game can help me get like generational wealth, man. I got to be able to play this as long as I can. So from 2000, about five, six, I started cutting things out. I'm like, you know what? I'm not, you know, I'm not drinking, you know, during the week. I changed my diet. You know, I started eating clean. I started eating better. I stopped eating out, you know, two, three times a day. Now I was doing, you know, meals that were made at home that was made with good, you know, good, good, good quality food.

30:49So, yeah. And then from that, I was like, you know what? I'm not going to drink during the week, but I'll party on the weekend and in the offseason. And then as that time progressed, I'm like, you know what? For me doing that, I saw results. You know what I'm going to do now is I'm not going to I'm not going to drink during the season at all. You know what I'm saying? And that would be like, OK, I'm going to have a couple of drinks or something when we do our rookie dinner or something like that. You know, that would be the time I would drink. But I would still do something in the offseason. Then I got to where, you know what, I'm getting older.

31:25I can't even I can't even go hard, do nothing like that in the offseason. So I got to where, you know, I would be almost year round and wouldn't have no alcohol. The easiest way to stay in shape is to never get out of shape. I didn't take as much time off anymore. you know where when I was younger you know I may take off six weeks or something now I'm like you know what I got a week I'm a chill especially you know if I'm hurt something's hurt try and get my body right whatever that may be and then I'm you know I'm right back at it that's one of the you know that's one of the things but to say this at 23 like that's that's wild dude I played I was 39 years old you know what I'm saying like that's not what I'll figure from a position that you know Guys are playing well into their late 30s, some early 40s.

32:13Yeah.

32:14James Harrison:No, and then you're at the quarterback position too, man. We're going to need you for the long haul. And that's not really sounding like that you think you're going to have. It sounds like the end of your career might not be as long as the beginning. You know what I'm saying? I was thinking like you're prepping up for something, but it seems like you're already like, oh, man, I'm getting up there. No, you're not. You're not getting up there. You still haven't had your first contract yet. Like we still, he's talking about, I'm not as fast as I used to be. I can't run. You still didn't get your first rookie deal.

32:46Your position that you're at now, you need to be getting more knowledge, understanding, reading things faster. Do you think Tom Brady stayed around that long because he was fast? No, no. They're on that long because he could see it, read it, understand it and get it out. Like, yes, you need athletic ability and all that other stuff, but dude, the position you're in, you need to see it and get it out. Like, Like, don't – 23 saying that and you just – nah, I don't like that at all. And the more I think about it, the more it kind of disturbs me.

33:17James Harrison:Yeah. No, for sure, man. 23 years old, that's just not something that you want to hear from a 23-year-old player at all. I mean, I think I can respect him with saying about his athleticism. And maybe that's not his strength. We never look at him as a blazer. Like, that's something that, oh, yeah, when you see J. Stroud, he's going to use his legs and get out of there. No. So I can understand, like, he's not the most athletic person at all. But I just don't want you to be sounding like my quarterback is getting old. He may just be talking just like, you know, just trying to. Plus, you're talking negatively about yourself.

33:52Like, I don't like the mindset that's coming from it. You know what I'm saying? They already going to talk bad about you, CJ. Don't do it to yourself. Right. Right. Don't give him more fuel for the fire, man. and actually to say it to the media right there even with a laugh that's something that obviously is in his head I'm not looking at my high school film I'm playing the game why am I looking at high school film like oh man I just felt like I was faster no I should be able to destroy high school me you know what I'm saying there should be no comparison to high school me

34:31James Harrison:yeah anything flick of the wrist like man you were 16 17 years old you and it's like that's what I'm saying you were a kid and now you grown man 23 and we talking about you getting old no no and you still young you still a young man you just been able to you've been past 21 for two years you can you just can't rent a car you can't even rent a car you can't rent a car you can't rent a car yet you're not an adult until you can rent a fucking car man i don't know maybe it's maybe it's the young players man who knows so we over here in philly man i guess multiple execs thinks that uh they have an issue over there and that a.j brown jeremy folly thinks that a.j brown could uh be traded this offseason i guess his relationship or lack thereof you know he had his tweet that he said and he had to do some i guess explaining over that issue, do you think that they'll be able to keep that together?

35:36Do you understand? Do you believe his frustrations is cool? Is it warranted? How do you believe this situation will come out, and do you think that it's a better way for him to handle it? I think that A.J.

35:54James Harrison:Brown knows he's a baller, and numbers are the reason why you get paid at receiver and it's a team sport but you know that when you get to that table those dudes gonna be looking at it like this oh yo ass only had 600 yards for 40 catches like they're gonna make him they're gonna they're gonna add his his value is gonna be on his numbers we know that he didn't get any worse he's still that dude he can still be making you know i'm saying like 1500 yards we know if he gets the opportunities so he's kind of looking at it like, I want to be helping the team. I know that we can get a jump start. I don't feel like he's trying to be negative, but at the end of the day, he knows he can affect the game and help the team out.

36:38James Harrison:So he wants to be more effective. He wants to help the squad. And at the end of the day, you got to get your numbers when you're trying to get back to that table. So they can't just be talking about... Did they pay him yet? Oh yeah, they paid him. What did he get? When did they pay him? I mean, I can't say exactly, but I know he getting paid. He up there. He getting probably around 30. I think he's getting around 30 a year. So he's knowing that end of the day, he has to keep those numbers, keep performing. He knows he can do it. He's not trying to take away from the team, but he just wants to help.

37:14James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? And he knows that if his numbers aren't looking good, it's not all about the numbers, but when you get to that table, as a wide receiver, it is. It's a lot about the numbers. especially you know at that position I understand his frustration he only got you know 14 pass I think 151 yards or something like that 28 targets and that's not really good but you got to look at it like you said you're you're four and oh I mean they only averaging 138 yards pass in a game understand his current pace he's looking at what 640 yards 600 four touchdowns maybe he got like a yards and catch incentive since he's already paid but who you know who knows but I think it's a better way for him to like like deal with this and like putting out tweets and all that is not it unless he tried to deal with it on the inside and it's not working but again oh you're you're four and oh and you know he says when they're struggling you know you know he wants to be I mean every team struggles throughout the period of game but you ain't struggled enough to even lose a game yet so you know like I said to be coming out you know with the cryptic tweaks after you're four and oh I understand but I don't understand you know on his side I can understand because he's a player.

38:44You know, he's a person that has to do what's best for him or get what's best for him to be able to get the numbers so that he can maximize all the benefits that he's looking for. And then, you know, as a coach sitting back like, yo, we're doing what's necessary to win. We're 4-0. Like, you know, what are we talking about? That's like me, you know, screaming and hollering that, you know, hey, man, I ain't got no sacks. We ain't, you know, whatever. We ain't blitzing. We playing, you know, whatever it may be. and we don't need to because we're 4-0, and I don't, yeah, I don't understand.

39:19James Harrison:It gets to a numbers game, and especially at the receiver position, bro. A big numbers game for a receiver. Like, you're not going to make no Pro Bowl, no All-Pro with these numbers, and those are your things. When you're trying to go Hall, when you're trying to make your career and trying to make a statement for yourself, it's like, oh, what happened in this joint when you had 40 catches with 650 yards? Ah, that's not Hall. That's not Hall of Fame activity. You know what I'm saying? So when you're trying to create your resume as a player and just not all, like when we say this, numbers don't mean everything.

39:49James Harrison:Okay, so tell me this, Joe. Tell me this. Yo. If you were playing receiver as a receiver, would you rather go for 1 ,500 yards, six years straight, or would you go for under 1 ,000 for six straight, but you get two Super Bowls?

40:23James Harrison:I'm going to go with the Super Bowls, Debo. I'm going to go with the Super Bowls. I'm probably going to go with the Super Bowls. If I was a receiver. All you got to do is look behind me. I know. I see. I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying you know for me yeah yeah yeah personally you know what would you do 1500 1500 or or 900 and two Super Bowls here's the crazy thing dude I've asked guys this question would you go in and make double what you made over your career but have no Super Bowls or make half of what you made over your career, but have Super Bowls. Here's the crazy thing.

41:16The guys that never went to a Super Bowl or won a Super Bowl, most of them take the money. The guys that went to a Super Bowl and didn't win a Super Bowl would take the Super Bowl. and guys like me who have Super Bowls went to the Super Bowls won and lost I'm keeping my Super Bowls I don't need to double my my net where would respect

41:52James Harrison:I ain't never had one so I'm gonna double my I'm gonna double my bag yeah I don't I don't understand it like you said you just signed what was it three year 96 million, 84 million guaranteed just last year. That's the A.J. Brown contract? Receiver guaranteed period. I'm talking about Brown. Yeah. Yeah. I told you. I knew he got the bag. You got the bag. Okay, let's start tripping maybe after this year, maybe next year. Yeah, because you still... That's the part too. You in the guarantee situation right now. This year, 30 to the good, guaranteed. Okay, so we ain't got to even worry about nothing.

42:40James Harrison:84 out of 96, Joe. Another 30-something to the good. We ain't got to worry about... Contract. Hey, listen, we coming up on that last year. Now, let's... We coming up on that last year? I need 1 ,200, 1 ,500 now. 1 ,200, 1 ,500. Do you hear me? I need 1 ,200, 1 ,500. For sure. Right now, though, when you making... That good money, you're chilling, your team's winning. Right now, you got two years you could really be on some chill, chilling, because that guarantee is coming in. You know you want it to be good, so just that GT is what it is. Get you another two Super Bowls, you know, and you're coming up on that last one.

43:22Now, hey, I got to eat. I got to. I got to eat. Like, we got to eat. Time. That ain't the case.

43:30James Harrison:That ain't the case. We got to figure something out. That guaranteed up, you know, it's time for me. I'm like, do I got a slot? And at the same time, too, Eagles, they're paying him$30-some million to not even go too crazy. So I'm like, you, I mean, don't. Yes. They just paid you, and they're using you how they're using you. They're not blaming you. They're not blaming you. You got 84 guaranteed. You can't go nowhere for the next two years, at least. Let's chill. Sit back. Go get your catches in practice. Get all that. You know? You young, bro. Get your jugs on, man. Just make sure them things is ready.

44:13James Harrison:Just get the jug machine going and you're going to be solid while you collect. Yeah, for sure. Jump down here to Miami, man. Tua said that he is now focused on carbs and fluids to avoid concussions. What do you think of that? Like, what's your take on that? You believe that's, I mean, I know fluids. Yes, definitely, because you can't be dehydrated. I understand the carbs, too, because, like, your basic, like, your brain basically needs some form of glucose, like good carbs, not bad carbs, not all that artificial refined stuff, you know what I'm saying? And that's why some people who do, like, low-carb or no-carb diets, they get what you call, like, it's like.

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46:27Visit Bahamur.com today. Brain fog. You know, your brain needs some sort of, what do they call it? Cerebral, cerebral, cerebral, cerebral glucose. So it helps to, you know, be able to. Some people, and like it's for individually too. Like I know I can function on no carbs. I'm used to doing it. I've been able to do it. Some people, they can't function, dude. They can't remember where they set their keys two minutes after they drop them down. Another thing is neck strength, dude. A lot of people don't understand this, dude. Neck strength is one of the mitigating factors for concussion. The stronger your neck is, the less likely you are to get a concussion.

47:16Like, that's something. You know, I used to always have a four-way neck. You're not doing here, here, here. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Necks are conference strength. All that, all that. All that, you know, adds to it.

47:27James Harrison:Because when you get, when you get a lot of them concussions too, when they hit, they back hitting, and their head just snap back to the ground. You got that, your neck strong as shit. Your head ain't just going all over the place. It ain't going to just pop. You can keep that. Like even when I was doing the show, wrestling heels, so you get slammed on the mat, what you're taught to do is slap like this. So when you hit, you slap with your hands, but you hold your head up. So it's boom. Boom, your head eventually goes back, but it's not that right here, you know, where you just bamming it on there.

47:59You're not just whipping it to the joint. Yeah. Yeah, so neck strength is a big thing, and I understand the carbs. Hydration, of course, you know, it helps, but if you really want to work on your concussions, bro, go in there and get in that four-weight neck, all the neck exercise that you can get to strengthen your neck.

48:18James Harrison:Yeah, no, no bullshit. That's definitely going to help his ass. I didn't know about the carbs, though. I didn't know about the carbs that could really help out. Yeah, everybody's different. You know what I'm saying? Everybody's body's different. Some people can function without them. Some people can't. Some people, you know, figure out how to. It's just, it's up to, you know, it's in each individual. You know, one thing don't, you know, work the same for everybody. That's why it affects from here to there. And then some people don't get none, you know. That's... Shit goes differently with different people.

48:52Yeah, yeah.

48:53James Harrison:You had concussion before? Because I know I had a couple. Mm-hmm. I had, well, you know, when they considered ringer, dingers, zingers, all that, that's. Oh, no. I'm talking about them real joints. The real where you out. The real one. You know what I'm talking about. Well, you went to sleep for a second. Yeah, I had one my rookie year when I was in. I was actually playing the Detroit, dude. It was my rookie year. It was the first time I think Clark Higgins had got hurt. so I had to play like a whole bunch of that I had to do kickoff kickoff return so I played like three quarters dude and I remember the tight end coming across blind on him and next thing I know they out there like hey hey you good I'm like what y 'all doing out here it's like he was out I'm like I wasn't out I just hit the tight what did you talk about I'm like dude I wasn't out man what y 'all talking about so I watched well it didn't even have it on the game copy.

49:50So, you know, you go over to the sideline and they say, okay, um, you know, what's today? You got a chance. Hey, it's Sunday. They're like, yeah. I'm like, alright, cool. I mean, I remembered everything. That was an issue and like, you know, the next series I'm back in. You know, now you done. Oh, you was definitely out for show. And then I had one in Cincinnati when I was in Cincinnati, bruh. So I go and this one I didn't remember. But I know I lost track of time somewhere, but I played the whole time. So I go and I hit. It was country. I blammed on him. Right. Right. So I get up and I'm talking and.

50:35I remember going to the next play and then I don't remember nothing after that until I'm standing on the sideline, bro. and I'm standing on the sideline and we playing in Pittsburgh and I'm with Cincinnati and I hear you know the crowd like just start off quiet and loud and as I started coming to I look and I'm like I'm on the sideline and they they must have just scored because it's a whole nother like 14 points on the board or something, right? I don't know what done happened and I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh my God, I think I got a concussion. So now we know the side effects of a concussion and all that.

51:25And I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh

51:28James Harrison:shit, I just missed some parts of this game. I don't know how much football I done missed, right? But I'm standing on the sideline, bro. That's a scary feeling. That's a scary feeling. I'm like, do I tell them? I don't remember. Do I And then now, like I said, we got the knowledge. And I'm like, nah. I'm like, they ain't paying me like that. They ain't worth my life. I'm like, yo, I got a concussion, bro. Like, what? I'm like, yes. I'm like, I don't remember nothing from the time. You tell a brother. You tell his ass. I just came to. I just came right here. I'm standing on the skyline, bro. And I just came to.

52:07Man, I played like four or five more snaps. They ended up scoring. and then it was like a punt or something and they was returning a punt for a touchdown and that's what woke me up as I was standing on the sideline. Bruh, that was the most scariest shit ever.

52:21James Harrison:What was yours like, bruh? Mine was kind of the same. I had one, it was in the Ravens game, bro. I was going to go get a tackle and dude was blocking me and had my arm and I couldn't put my hand down. My head just, boom, busting to the ground. Same way, all of a sudden, I just see people. Joe, you good? You good? You good? I'm thinking it's just right like it happened and then I just opened my eyes. It's probably been a good minute, you know what I'm saying? And I'm looking around. Everybody, nobody's, I'm like, oh, shit. Walk me off to the sideline. Go to the back. Get to ask me what date it was.

52:55James Harrison:Same thing you said, D-B-O. Sunday. I don't know the number of the day. You gotta go with Sunday, man. Sunday. We in Baltimore. For sure. Yeah, didn't remember they kept my ass out of there, but that was my worst one. You had more than one that was out? I had two. I had two. What was the other one? The other one? Nigga, that's the crazy part. I'm trying to remember the other one. You still don't remember? I'm still concussed from that joint. Bro, that ain't funny. Let me stop laughing, bro, man. Listen, man. I don't know why we laughing. I don't know. You know what? We got to stop laughing. We laughing.

53:35James Harrison:That's us, man. Come on, man. We're laughing to stop us from crying. Yeah, you got to laugh and keep from crying sometimes. For sure. Yeah, that's something about it to be the game. They say the new kicking ball procedures have drastically changed field goals. Todd Bowles says long field goals are about the Terminator. About the Terminator. What the hell? I can't read that. It's about like kickers. Terminator like kickers. Yeah. not the kicking balls what what what what what is going on with these kicking balls what's what i don't know what's listen so what's going on i think what's coming down is they're letting them do the kicking balls now like they do the game balls you know how you get a game ball and you grab it fresh out the box it's slick as cat shit you can't grab yes yes like so they're letting them scrub the balls up to condition them so you could grip them well i think before with the kicking balls they just used a new ball you had no basically grip on it so they let them you weren't able to do it like the quarterbacks do yes yes so i don't i don't see a i don't see an issue with it dude i think they're just don't get me wrong they're they're being able to we can you see a whole lot of long field goals now but yeah i think you would get that before if you just like that's like trying to catch a brand new ball out the box dude you're not going to catch one of those brand new balls out the box without gloves on it's no way like they're actually they're slippery they're not just like they're not just they're slippery for real that's that and it's like it feel like it's almost like a a coating over the the material ball some somewhat like i don't know what it is but if you don't if you don't have time to work with those brush them up, get them in like they're coming that's all that they're doing all that they're doing is massaging dang that was about to be crazy massaging, yeah, all they're doing is damn, how do you say that without being crazy, all they're doing is massaging the footballs that's it, like the quarterbacks do I was like oh my goodness I'm sounding crazy, how do I say this massaging the football so basically getting it to, like the way the quarterbacks do it though, like they're not taking no air They're not putting no air in.

55:56They're just literally massaging the slickness off the ball.

56:00James Harrison:Right, right. Oh, well, that's too bad then, coach. They going, that's a regular ball. You just got the right amount of PI air in it. Let them boot the joint. Right. You got the air you're supposed to have in it. Like, it don't make no sense. Some people like to wear new shoes every game. Some guys like to break their shoes in during the week and then wear them, you know, in the game. That's, you know. Preference. That's preference. But for this, that's not preference, dude. If you told them they couldn't do nothing with a ball that was just fresh out the box, they had to play with brand new balls that weren't worked in, weren't conditioned into it, the game would look totally different.

56:41You know what? Yes. They want points. I'm tripping. I don't even know what I'm tripping on. I should have knew this. They want points. They want points. More field goals, more points. So they let them condition the balls. I don't see a problem with it. You're not doing anything, you know, illegal. You're not deflating or hyper-inflating the ball. You got to have it at a certain, you know. So, I don't.

57:04James Harrison:I don't think if anybody, I don't know if anybody touched it. Like, make sure they get the Duke, the fresh Duke NFL football, fresh out of the pack. That's impossible to play. You can't play with that ball. So, like, instantly, everybody, every team I've been on, all quarterbacks, one of them, either like a certain type, They want their footballs to feel. So you've got to. I've never seen a quarterback use a football fresh out of the pack and just bring it to the practice field. That doesn't. They've never seen it before. Yeah, so previously teams got three brand new kicking balls within 30 to 90 minutes before a given game started.

57:43So as of 2025, teams get all 60 kicking balls to start the year with unlimited time to break them in. then each can use up to three a game. Yeah.

57:57James Harrison:Okay. Okay. I mean, I'm not mad at that at all. I think that this is going to obviously back up that line. So how do you make sure that it's – oh, they got numbers on them. I'm tripping. Yep, they got numbers on them. They locked in. They locked in. They got numbers on them. So you can only use three. You get all of them. Can you reuse them? but that's the crazy part no you can't reuse them you gotta use the three that makes sense why they be trying to get them damn kicking balls back so bad like if the joint goes into the stands they trying to go get that because I'm like you only got three I guess each one can be used in three games so

58:42each one can be used in three games yeah it can be used up to three games So basically, I could take three balls and I could use them for those three games. And then you got to switch them out. Then you got to switch them out. Because he said they get 60 of them? Yeah, they said they get 60 balls to kick. Or they get 60 balls, you know, at the start of the year that are the kicking balls. With unlimited time to break them in. Then each team can use up to three. Three. Can use up to. Yeah. Then each can be used up to three times a game, up to three games. Sorry, three games. So each ball can be used for three games total.

59:35Perfect. Yeah.

59:36James Harrison:I don't coach his, he, the Eagle, the, I'll tell you what, it don't matter what kind of ball they put on the ground for me. I can't kick that son, but so it ain't, it don't matter. You got to have the skill. You got to have the skill, for sure. And I think, man, the Eagles, D.C., you might, like, hopefully your kicker's making sure his ball is perfect so he can boot that thing 60 yards. Definitely do. Nigga, man, they get mad. They ain't got a good kick. Hey, they is firing off on them balls. But back in the day, didn't they? Nah. Back in the day, they had a different-shaped ball, didn't they?

1:00:14No. It was a little round. You talking about back in the day? You talking about with leather helmets? Yeah.

1:00:21James Harrison:Probably. But back in the day, D-Bo, we only had to guard the 35-yard line. That's what I was taught at first, to guard the 35. Now, nigga got to damn near guard the 50, because as soon as they pass half, they can kick the field goal from there. Hey, if you got a good field goal kicker, bro. Oh, yeah. Dangerous. Yes. Yes. Like this dude, this one dude, this one dude, he's like the coldest field goal kicker, man. like, um... Bankroll Bob. Bankroll. Nope. Come on. Bankroll. Hey, look. I ain't no hater over here. You know I love bankroll. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. You got lucky, man. You got lucky. I made him the greatest kicker alive, man.

1:01:07You want to know how I did it, man? I told that boy, if he missed that field goal, he's going to wash my bag in that shop. You scared him to greatness. I scared him to greatness. Hey, you welcome, baby. I don't even need no thank you, no appreciation. You know what I'm saying? I don't need it, man. Between you and me and everybody else in the world, now we know. We know. I made you who you are. Okay? Good old bankroll. Bankroll bar. Oh, man. Dang. We got some money here. We got some donations here. Let's say Rudy. $10. Thank you. We appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Always. He said, what's up from Heath Miller country?

1:01:54Well, hey, that's down there, VA, ain't it? Heath Miller? Ain't that Heath Miller? Ain't Heath Miller from VA? I think so. Okay. Okay. He said, let's go. Blitzburg. Love you guys. Joe and 9-2 from Swords Creek VA. I told you it was VA. You did. I told you. I'm good like that, bro. You good like that? I knew it.

1:02:19James Harrison:Okay, Geographical Debo. Yeah, you know, I do what I can do when I can do it, but, you know, when I can't do it, I still do it. You still do it. And you know me, I'm in good old London. Brown's about to go ahead and get it done, though, somehow. Hey, don't mess around out there and get popped by the same team we just popped. Okay? What they about to do? Tell me what they about to do because you there with them. You talking to them. I ain't got to say, you ain't got to say, oh, they said, he said. Just tell me what you say they about to do to the Vikings. This right here is what Joe is saying the Browns are going to do to the Vikings.

1:03:02Run it.

1:03:03James Harrison:They ain't come all this way just to come this way. We came out here to whoop ass and take names. Boom. That's all I got to say about that. That's it. That's all you got to say. Hey, Vikings, Browns came out there to whoop your ass and put your names on their list. I just want y 'all to know that Joe Hayden said that. This. We here for a good time, not a long time. They been here for two weeks. They getting all chill. They eating all these crepes and grapes. Get out of here. Crepes and grapes. Don't they got tea somewhere in London or something? Yeah, they got tea too. And get out of here. We ain't come for none of that.

1:03:47James Harrison:We came to whoop some ass and go home. A crumpet, a potato chip, a two. A crumpet, a chip. A chip, a two. Listen, my kids is pissed off. They done lost. They done had to stay out there almost two weeks. Yes. They mad. Listen, they about to stomp a mud hole in y 'all ass and walk it across. Yep, okay. Yeah, I'ma see your best on Monday, boy. I want that same energy. I want that same energy. Look here, baby. We want to thank you guys for joining us on Debo and Joe. And I want y 'all to go watch Vikings stumping mud hole in the Browns' ass. Would y 'all please like and subscribe to our channel. We will be back at it on Monday.

1:04:41James Harrison:Be here Monday. Make sure you like and subscribe. Make sure you like and subscribe. I got something for Debo. Oh, you got something? He got something for Debo. Joseph from London. What you got to say, Joe? I got to say watch the Browns whoop ass. Make sure you like and subscribe to the Debo and Joe show. We will see you Monday. I got something for Debo ass when the Browns whoop the Vikings.

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Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a Thursday Night Football where Mac Jones and the San Francisco 49ers defeated Matthew Stafford and the Los Angeles Rams. Later, they react to the Cleveland Browns benching Joe Flacco and starting Dillon Gabriel, and whether Gabriel took shots fellow rookie teammates Shedeur Sanders in his press conference.

Timeline:
00:00 - 49ers beat Rams
11:50 - Dillion Gabriel Browns QB1
18:00 - Players getting fined
24:00 - CJ Stroud Feeling Old
32:00 - Philly to Trade AJ Brown?
41:30 - Tua avoiding concussions
49:15 - New kicking ball rule

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