Deebo & Joe EPISODE 100 - Part 1

25:25James Harrison:Because my stomach be messed up before the game. I feel like I really can't eat, but I got to get something in. So the spaghetti and chicken breast is just normal, smooth, cool. I know it's going to taste the same every time. So I just was going with that, get something in my belly and go. Because before the game, I ain't going to lie to you. I always had, not butterflies, but my stomach. You had nothing the night before? The night before? Nothing specific. Yeah. Nothing specific, bro. I just, yeah, probably the same. I was probably eating the same thing. I was eating that spaghetti the night before.

25:58James Harrison:Because, you know, the team meal, they always got the spaghetti with the chicken breast. Hit that. And then in the morning, come back down and do the same thing. Well, see, we ain't had that when I came up. Well, as far as college. I started in college. So in college, they would give us, you get like two pizzas. You get two large pizzas before the game. And that was our dinner. Like, we was at Kent State, bro. And that's, you know, that's all they could afford at the time. At least that's what we thought. But looking back at it, that was a damn lie because we made damn near 70, 80 percent of the money that was, you know, generated for the athletic program.

26:37James Harrison:And it wasn't because we was good, bro. We sucked. It was because the schools, the school was getting paid by the other schools to send us in there as the damn sheep to the wolves for the big boys, for the big 10. and they give us a vote or get a school vote,$500 ,000,$600 ,000. Come in there for, you know, two, three games every year. You get, you know, you get a few million dollars to get your face kicked in to be their homecoming game, their warm-up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. You was the Gators' first game of the season. Dude, facts. I ain't going to deny that. Facts.

27:14James Harrison:Came and got you a nice check. We was the first three games, minimum, minimum two, if not four. you going to, oh, yeah, get a chance to get in front of the big boys. Y 'all get to see, you know, get to play up against the big. I wasn't tripping. I was cool. You going to hold your own, bro? You going to handle yours. That's for sure. We getting worked on out there, man. You know, they're going to struck the band up. It's 30-something or whatever by the time you're going to hit the second quarter. Like, man. They ain't let you go in that game with enough bullets, man. You had one you. You needed some more.

27:54James Harrison:You need about eight more at least. So my thing was the night before the game was to eat pizza. So I think it was like 2007. I ended up jumping back into it. I think we were somewhere. I can't remember where we were, but I was like, yo, I want like some Papa John's pizza. And that was the thing. They used to give us Papa John's pizza. Oh, fine. With the dip and all that, right? So I'm like, oh, my God. I want some Papa John's pizza. Yes. They came with it. I ordered it. Dipping sauce, all that. Man, I'm going to smash the whole pizza, bro. And I'm like sitting up there like, ooh-wee. The next day, got up, ate.

28:30James Harrison:I eat a huge breakfast too because I get up super early. I try and get to the game like at least like four hours before the game so I can have all my stuff ready. You complete opposite with that. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to get there as soon as possible. I do all my stuff. I take my own jerseys. I do everything. Shut up. Seriously? I don't let them do none of that, bro. Okay. Okay. Yes. Okay, D-Bo. I wasn't hip. I was today. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't let them do none of that. So you get up to the stadium four hours before. Right. So in 2007, like I said, I ordered that Papa John's, dude. Yeah. Man, I felt great.

29:06James Harrison:And then it reminded me. I'm like, yo, I used to eat pizza. Like, that's all we had before the game. And I felt great when I played. So I'm like, I'm going back to that. And I don't even know if you was there, the couple games that I did play, but I would order a large pizza. Well, I would actually order two when it came time because other guys started being like, yo, get a slice and all this other stuff. So we had a Gatorade and we treated the Gatorade like it was wine. So if you had some red, you say you needed a cab. You had a lighter one. You know, you say it was something to – It was white.

29:37James Harrison:Yeah. So everybody would get a slice. I still get a whole pizza to myself. For sure. Everybody else would just grab a slice and it just became a thing where we was, you know, we was breaking bread like acting food. But it was great, bro. See, I wasn't. It must have not been because I think I ain't never see the slice. I need I wish I would have seen it. I would have definitely came over there and grabbed me a slice, D-Bo. Yeah, it was only shit. By the time you got there. That was what, 17? it wasn't shit it might have been only like maybe three people that was that was still there from when i originally started doing it but dude it used to be like the whole defense bro i was at one time i was ordering three pieces i'm like yo dog y 'all can't take none of this one i at least need half of it bro yeah like jack jack would order i'd be like jack he'd be like yeah jack one of the most clutchest people in the world yeah yeah i'd be like jack man he'd be like yeah I got you.

30:32James Harrison:Don't worry about it. Give me the money and all that, you know, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. As soon as it come in, we break the meetings. As soon as we break the meetings after the team meeting, we do all our stuff. Yeah. That's when I get the pizza. So I wouldn't even eat the regular meal that we had there. I'm like, yo, I'm saving all that. I'd come in there starving, bro. Be ready just to eat that. Hell no. But that Papa John's pizza with that sauce ain't nothing like it. Oh, bro. Come on, bro. Like, hey, I'm going to tell you another one that's hitting. I don't even know what's the name of it right now.

31:08It's, what is it? I want to say it's like, yes, dude, it's pizza.

31:12James Harrison:It's around here. I just, man, I order it, bro. Like every now and then. It got like a turbo, they call it turbo crush. It's like a garlic turbo crush. Oh, my goodness, bro. I'm not hip. What's the name of it? Is it Jets or is it Fox? I started doing that one when I was in Atlanta during COVID when I was filming Hills. Me and my dude Allen dude we was driving 30 40 minutes bro to go get pizza like 11 o 'clock at night bro man it was good though bro. So they got one here but it's like it's a good 30 40 minutes away and they on the level so you gotta go get it. Every now and then you know 89, your boy got to run down there and get that.

31:57James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? You got to go 45 for the pizza. Oh, yes. No question. That's one way. Okay. That's one way, Joe. You're going to get caught in traffic. You're eating the pizza for sure on the way back in the whip. Oh, you can't. You can't? What you mean you can't? Jets. Yeah. Jets. It's Jets. Jets got the turbo crust. Yes, it's Jets. They're right. Jets got the turbo crust. Bruh, I'm telling you, when you come here, find you a Jets, bruh. Find me a Jets. Make sure you get the turbo crust. I will. Matter of fact, get you the one that only got the corners. You can get it where it got just all corners in there.

32:30James Harrison:All corners. So you, ah. See? Okay. I'm going to order that. All sides. I'm going to order that. I'm going to order that. Yeah. Get off this. Delisa, order me some Turbo Crush. Please. Please. Yeah. You know, we need to get to though, Debo, because we didn't, you know, we ain't talk about my boys. Yeah. Let's talk about your boys. About that. Let's talk about your boys. about that boy todd munkin yes yes now they asked him uh if he had a goal for naming the starting quarterback if his goal was to name a starting quarterback before a training camp right and he said i would love to have that i'm not there yet munkin replied so i can't say that you can't say what dude you can't say that you have or like want to have in mind a time frame of when you think you could have enough plays to evaluate the quarterback's performance that you have Joe I don't know what this is but I'm gonna tell you right now it sounds like a little brownie because as you sit there and you look at it a little more it goes oh but he did He says this one.

33:52James Harrison:What did he say? He said, listen, once we get on the field for four weeks at the end of spring, we'll have a better idea. He continued to then say, but there's only so many reps you get. You've got to start to target towards who's going to start opening day. Okay? Yes. But then he went browning and he comes back with this. I'm saying he went browning. He went browning and he comes back with this one. He says, now, this can still change. He added, that can change even if someone's getting two-thirds of the reps or someone's getting a third of the reps because you're still going to play preseason games.

34:53James Harrison:Yes. You're still going to want to see those guys at quarterback and see how they play. Yes. Why not just say, we're going to know who our starting quarterback is before the first regular season game. Leave it at that and keep it going. because all this stuff he's saying right here, it sounds like anybody could be the quarterback. It could be Watson. It could be Shador. It could be Gilbert. It could be Green, the dude they just picked up. Joe, what is going on with your coach here that he can't give a straight answer? And then he seems to be talking about what somebody put out there about the reps being flipped over.

35:38Like, why not just say,

35:40James Harrison:we're going to figure out who our starting quarterback is before the first regular season game instead of going and getting all this mumble jumble, double talking Browning. I guess because he's coached for the Browns. I don't know but I'm asking you. I understand what you're saying. If I was you, I would do the same thing. Say it doesn't matter. He needs to have his own, he got his own timetable. So if he says before the first game of the season Debo, I'm with you a thousand percent. He's kind of like, he don't need to rush. I feel like if he would have said, I'm going to have my starter by the first game of the season, it's just he's making more conversation that doesn't need to be made.

36:18James Harrison:You're exactly right. I think that when you say things like, they've only had three practices. You know what I'm saying? There's time. But you only had three practices but you're already switching from who's starting the practices with the most reps. Because when you're having a quarterback competition because when you're having a quarterback competition that's what you do. Sometimes one guy's going to get more reps one day and the next guy's going to get more reps the next day. You're nobody talking about Dylan or... No. This is what I'm saying. No. I mean, obviously, Shador was already the starting quarterback.

36:54James Harrison:I mean, Shador already started. Deshaun's coming back making$46 million this year. That's the two quarterbacks. Dylan Gabriel, you had your chance. And Shador, in my opinion, looked like he was better. has a better trajectory to be actual starting quarterback. So now it's him and Deshaun in a quarterback battle. Some days Deshaun's going to have more reps. Some days Shador's going to have more reps. And people are living and dying by every throw. The quarterbacks and the coach, they're going to have to go back, see, watch, evaluate, and then they're going to pick who they want to be the starting quarterback.

37:29James Harrison:And then we're going to go from there. So it's just everybody like you, everybody like people, is just trying to make a big deal out of, Oh, no, he's getting more reps this day. He's getting more reps that day.

38:36We'll see you next time.

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41:23James Harrison:Everybody like you, I didn't write the article You talked to Mary Kay Look, no, I'm saying you're talking about the article that Mary Kay said Because Mary Kay's putting out there, oh, we got more reps this day Oh, we got, because that's what happens when you're battling The next day, Shador will probably get more reps She ain't said that yet I'm sure Mary Kay would actually say that if that ended up happening and turning back around Because she's been doing this since the early 80s It doesn't matter An experienced, you know, analysts, reporters, sports, however you want to call it. Deebo, you going to tell me just because they get voted and win an award, them same people was the one that kept out fucking Bill Belichick.

42:01James Harrison:Like, they don't know what they don't know. Hey, I like it when I like it and I don't like it when I don't like it. And I don't when I don't. Like, you know the reporters out there in Pittsburgh, too. If somebody gets a reward, you think that just means that they're good? No. You can still be doing foggy things and win. Oh, so you saying she ain't good. She just. No, I'm saying that some people could to each his own, to each his own. Okay. Okay. I was just, I'm just, I'm just asking because the, you know, with this Monken thing, the report says the Browns hired Trent. What is that? Ballot in a consoling role.

42:42James Harrison:The consultant role. So the Browns hired long-time NFL executive, exec Trent Baalke in a consultant-like capacity. Yo. Too many cooks in the kitchen. No, Joe, hell no. Too many cooks in the kitchen. The Jaguars fired him at GM in 2025 offseason. And he has been out of the NFL since last season, okay? Now, during his tenure in Jacksonville, the Jags went 25-43 with head coach Urban Meyer and Doug Patterson, along with interim coach Darrell Belvin. Yeah. All of them got fired, Joe. Everybody got fired. Everybody fired. He got a problem, Joe. He got a problem. Now, this actually, what is it? is 25 so that was 25 so in 25 before they got the coach that they actually got now uh liam coin yeah he was the old coordinator for the buccaneers right and he actually had decided to pass on the second interview a head coach position for uh for jacksonville and stay with the bucks along with uh it was ben johnson and aaron glenn saying the same thing that they was go past because they didn't want the job if he was still going to be the GM.

44:15James Harrison:And of course, later, Cohen took the job with the incentive that he could pick his own GM. And this all started all the way back in 2014 when old Trent and Jim Hardball was bumping heads and mutually agreed to part ways. as more people say, was more like a firing over there than it was a mutual agreement with the owners, obviously, siding with Trent over Jim. And everything went downhill from there until he was fired in 2016, okay? So he took and didn't want to listen to Jim Harbaugh over there with the 49ers. After they had, I think they went to a championship game or won the championship. I can't remember which one it was.

45:06James Harrison:But he decided he was big dog. He wanted to do everything his way, obviously on the side winning. And they was like, we're going to go your way, and we're going to get rid of Jim. Jim went over there to Michigan and started cheating up some storms and winning some money. I mean, winning some games and all that. Anyway, all right. So he would later get fired in 2016 from the 49ers. He would go to the Jaguars in 21 until 24. and it has been a steady decline since then, bro. So, what is it about old Trent that y 'all Brown see that makes you or makes your organization want to bring him in to consult about what?

45:54James Harrison:How not to do it? Yubo, I'm with you 1 ,000 % on this one. And I'm pissed. I'm just sitting here taking it. What the fuck he going to come help us consult about? Leave us alone. Don't come over here with your losing vibes. Who brought him in, Joe? I don't need none of that energy. Why were you consulting? What are you consulting us about? We're doing just fine. Andrew Barry is over here cooking right now. I think Andrew Barry brought him in. I don't... They say he known for bringing something in. Maybe he bringing them in to make himself look better than... No, this is all I'm saying. Look how bad he did.

46:36James Harrison:I'm going to bring him in here and try and rehabilitate him. Rehabilitate him. This is all I'm saying. I don't think bringing more cooks in the kitchen is what we need. We just got out of - I thought you said he was cooking. Why would you need somebody else? That's what I'm saying. He's a long range right now. He's my Gordon Ramsay. I don't need nobody else throwing in no damn ingredients or nothing. I like you doing what you're doing. We got DePodesta out of there. So now I'm like, okay, you don't have no handcuffs. I feel like you're bringing in handcuffs, Andrew. I don't want it to be just on you.

47:09James Harrison:You did the draft last year. Amazing. You did the draft this year. I'm loving it. What the hell are you bringing in somebody to consult you? I want nobody consulting you. I want you to be doing what you're doing. You and Todd Munkin, y 'all consult each other. Y 'all figure out what we want to do here. We don't need to bring in. Do we know for sure who brought him in? I don't know. And the thing is, I don't care because I think that when you keep bringing in other consultants, other people that other. No, we don't need that. You're the general manager. I'm just trying to see who's trying to sabotage it.

47:46James Harrison:That's all. Is it the owner? Is it the GM himself? What is going on? That's what I'm saying. Do he have – this man been out of it for a whole year. I want to know. And you ain't getting nothing positive since 2014. I want to know what is it that you got. You got pictures of somebody. You got – what you got, text. What you got that got you back in here in a consultant capacity, and you ain't did nothing with it since you showed your hand and made Jim Harbaugh get up out of there and saw – and showed that you couldn't do it. And then went over there to Jacksonville. I mean, yeah, Jacksonville, and did the same thing.

48:22James Harrison:this one dumbfound me because I genuinely don't understand why you would bring him in. I don't. We don't need more cooks. We don't need more people in there. I like Sasha. I mean, Andrew Barry, we got you in here. You're cooking. Do what you need to do. So that's a good point. I don't need to ask, was it Andrew Barry's idea to bring him in? I would hope not. I would definitely hope it is not because if it is, that is scary. That is scary. And then it's still scary for his job security if it isn't. It's a scary situation either way it go. He's cooking. Yes. I ain't going to lie. He did good last year.

49:10James Harrison:What he did, what they were doing. Thank you. He did good last year, dude. He got all them high drafts. He went and made it work. He made it count. Yes. This year. He got some good picks. We'll see if it pans out. Yes. But if that's him saying, I'm not too sure what I did. I need a consultant. I'm ready to fire you as the owner if you did that. And if you're the owner and I'm saying, I'm getting a consultant because you ain't cooking right, then now you sitting there like, is my job even secure that you got to bring somebody else in? Yeah. No, I'm with you. I just don't understand the fact that when you do have a GM, all these consulting people, I'm like, no, you got your scouting department.

49:55James Harrison:You have your general manager. You have people that run it. Omar, did Omar have a consultant? Omar ain't got no consultant, baby. I mean, because you don't need no goddamn consultant because he's the GM. He consulting with himself. He consulting with the coach. Joe feeling some kind of way, man. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe feeling some kind of way. I'm just saying, when you got that organization, when I go over there to Pittsburgh, bro, They would always ask me, what's the difference between Cleveland and Pittsburgh? Up top, when you got your GMs and you got, what's my man, was before Omar. Kevin Colbert.

50:26James Harrison:Kevin Colbert. You got Kevin, you got Omar. You got dudes that don't feel, like when you talk about needing consultant, you're consulting with your head coach because we're putting this together. It's me and you, and we're building this team, and we're going to figure it out. The owner maybe, you know what I'm saying? But for real, for real, you got your guys. You got your GM, and you got your coach. Y 'all are building this squad together. Y 'all could be on the same accord. When you start bringing in more consultants, what is he consulting you about? You and the coach figure out what y 'all need.

50:55James Harrison:All this extra, like you got scouting departments, all those people for show. But when you just bring in somebody, consult it. What are you talking about? What are you doing? Hey, man, this could be one of them situations where, you know, hey, they done hired a new coach. He might not have been too sure about the GM. I'm saying as the owner, as the owner and the owner is like, you know what? I need somebody on the inside to be all the way inside on everything and tell me what's going on and feed me the tidbits of what's going on. This could be a situation where he might be even trying to sabotage him.

51:25James Harrison:Ask your GM. Ask your general manager. That's like a spy. That's what it is. I ain't say the spy. You said spy. You hitting it all the way. I said somebody to come and tell you what you need to know, what you want to know, because you feel like they might not be telling you the whole story. Hey, you got to think about this, man. What's up? I'm the Hasselins, except I'm Harrison. I'm Harrison. I own the Browns, okay? And I don't know shit about football, and I can't do nothing about it, but I got money. I'm a billionaire. You think you're going to tell me how to run a business and who I want to put in there?

52:03James Harrison:Hell no, you're not. You ain't nothing but a millionaire. I'm a billionaire. You'll do as I say when I say it. a lot of you know that control that comes in you know that's not what oh my goodness D-Bo it's just not good it stressed me out a little bit I ain't gonna lie it's okay man it's okay you should have knew that this wasn't gonna be a straight pattern we still got it's just the off season we got time Y 'all doing this. The draft already done. Why is y 'all even hiring him? For what? You telling me he messed up so bad you hiring somebody right now to help consult for next year? But that's the crazy part.

52:54James Harrison:He didn't mess up. I'm just saying. Andrew Barry did not mess up. I know he didn't, bro. I know he didn't. I'm saying. I'm just looking at it. I'm just, you know, me, man, I got to hit all avenues. I got to be able to say, you know, I got to be able to think. I got to be able to think unlogical when we're talking about Cleveland. You love when these things happen. I don't love this. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Maybe? Yeah. A little? And I don't like when we do it. I don't like when we do it to ourselves. I like when y 'all do it to yourselves. Because that means it's cell phone self warfare. like y 'all can't even get out of y 'all own way that's the greatest we're gonna have this quarterback competition going on we just need our ball beautiful stadium y 'all got coming up beautiful y 'all got this going on oh lord lord by that time Shadon thank you for giving me this for my birthday lord I appreciate that Lord, my shepherd, he know what I want.

54:09James Harrison:Come on. We're going to be nice. And Shadour going to be in that news station. We're going to be nice with old Ballack back there plotting and scheming. You know? I pray, I hope that it works out. But I just think that we don't need another cook. Too many. Hey, boss. You know what they said? What's up? They said they wasn't going to listen to you. They damn sure didn't listen to me because he said they weren't going to listen to you. I'm going to tell you everything that you want to know, Mr. Haslam. What you want to know? Leave my dog, Mr. Haslam. Leave my dog, Mr. Haslam alone, man. And I think Monken went home at 8.35 p.m.

54:59James Harrison:He should have been there till 9.15. If I was head coach, I would be there till 9.15. Come on, man. I'm tired of that thing. Just saying. Oh, man, my coach isn't that thing. I'm just, hey, listen, I'm just saying. If I was there, I'd be sleeping in the office. That's what he's telling me. That's what he's telling me. I gotta get out of the train. You gotta find out who hired him, Joe. No, for sure. What do you mean? I'm hitting Andrew. I'm hitting Andrew Barry. I gotta ask. Hit him up. I have to. I'm U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. We all get distracted when we drive, whether it's from our phones or kids in the backseat bickering.

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