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12:00James Harrison:You know, they're not playing around with these coaches nowadays. So it's going to depend on if the owner is going to be willing to be ready to like, no, if it's not working, I'm going to fire him because you're going to continue to have to pay these coaches. Like Vegas, they don't care. They're paying eight coaches. There might be owners that are like this. You know what? Bump that. I don't care if he's not that good. We're going to give him a little bit more leash because I'm not going to keep hiring and paying staff members that aren't here. So depending on that, I don't know how long Atlanta is going to give him a leash.

12:34James Harrison:But I think that takes into account owners that are like, man, I'm not going to keep paying all of these dudes this long. I might give them a little bit longer leash. Or like the Patriots, they gave my man Mayo a year. Don't like it. I don't like the way that it's going. I'm not going to give you too much longer. I'm going to switch it out. worked out well. You can't get mad at that. You can't get mad at that. But that's what I'm saying. You can't be mad at a man that's going to do it, but then that's an owner that's knowing. If it doesn't work, I'm willing to pull the leash knowing these dudes are under contract.

13:04James Harrison:I'm going to have to pay this man, hopefully bring in another one that's going to work, that's going to help this team out. You know what I'm saying? So something like this, nah, I just sit on this for a minute. I'm not going to pay this dude$10 million to be over there and then hopefully this other dude works out. So shout out to Kraft to be able to be like, Like, ah, I like you, Mayo. I hope it was, but it didn't work out. Chopped after Belichick brings in Vrabel, right pick. You know what I'm saying? Works out. Everything just works. So I think it's an ownership thing. And coaches now, you got to win.

13:36James Harrison:Like, I hear all this building stuff. Like, no, you don't have a long time to be sorry. But if you're sorry that year, that means you're getting a high draft pick. So you better go get you a quarterback. You better be on the same page with your GM because we have to perform. We don't have a lot of time. Oh, yeah, we're in a five-year process. No. You have a year or two, or you better be showing us something. You better be good on one side of the field. You need some pieces. You know what I'm saying? But don't just be out here looking shitty. Like, don't just be out here losing. Like, we're going to get you out of there.

14:04James Harrison:So I think coaches now, they got to be coming in there knowing, got to perform, GM, what are we looking like? Do I have my quarterback? And I need to get it popping ASAP.

14:14Joe Haden:Yeah, but see, that's what's wild with me on the Stefanski thing is you had Raheem there, and he's one game away from being in the actual AFC championship. You fire him, and now you go and grab somebody that ain't even been in the playoff game, and I don't know how long. And on top of that, the offense wasn't performing well. You don't have a super high draft pick like that, so it's not like you're going to be able to go and get somebody else. you're going to be stuck with the same person you got there so I don't understand that and if you're doing that then you're telling me that you feel like he could come in here and do better with the staff with the players that he has right now versus what Raheem was doing up to that point like what what's the whole like the whole point of just getting rid of him to move him in and then you have a down year, are you going to get rid of him and then move on after that?

15:12James Harrison:Probably because maybe you know how these dudes are. Was Raheem hired by Matt Ryan? Do you know what I'm saying? Is that his guy? You know how these GMs and these dudes are. When they come in there, they want to bring their people and they want it to be their way. Maybe Raheem doesn't do it the way Matt Ryan kind of has the vision where he's like this. If I'm going down, I'm going down with Skifanski because me and him are on the same page. We're vibing now. Like we talked about the way that I see the vision going, you know what I'm saying? So everybody's out for their self, you know what I'm saying?

15:42James Harrison:When you look at it. So I could see kind of, maybe that's why he made that move. Like Raheem, I see his vision, not my vision. Stefanski, okay. If I'm going to be here, I'm not running. I'm able to make these moves. I'm going to make this one. And if it doesn't work, now we know where to point though. You know what I'm saying? We's like, you had a buddy right here. Then you moved him. Okay. Now you got Stefanski here. So He's like, oh, we know who it is. That wasn't, you know what I'm saying? Right. That's Matt Ryan. That was your decision. You moved on from what was actually working. People were feeling it, but you wanted to go there.

16:14James Harrison:So I could rock with that. He could have all eyes on him, though, for sure.

16:18Joe Haden:They got eyes, for sure. They got eyes on him, for sure. We got Joe Brady over here with the Bills. That's obvious. We know why he got that. I mean, he was Josh Allen's quarterback coach. You fired, like him? He don't realize it yet. You done got the job, but you got two years max. who we talking about the way they did McDermott oh yes you might have won

16:40James Harrison:you got ASAP ASAP if we lose if we don't win more games than we won last year don't mess around

16:47Joe Haden:and not make the playoffs oh you are there got to Josh might be gone too he might be mad enough to trade

16:57James Harrison:hey bro I ain't gonna cause you for sure for sure man something gotta give Jesse Minner with the Ravens. How long you think he got over there? Man, and I love, you know how they own the rocks. You heard what he said. You heard what he said about Lamar. You know the decision lies there. So there's no gray. He going to let you know. Everybody. If you want to know how long he got, ask him.

17:24Joe Haden:Hey, that's all they got to do is ask him.

17:26James Harrison:All they got to do. Hey, how long, buddy, he got to do this. He'll tell you, man, two and a half. If I don't like that, three. It depends what he do. How far we get, you know?

17:35Joe Haden:Yep. He going to tell you how I feel. That's what I like. If he don't make the playoffs, you give him a scenario, he going to answer. Oh, for sure. If he don't make the playoffs. Oh, he going to be up out of here as soon as the game over with. He going to have to go ahead and find a flight somewhere else. I'll have his bags packed.

17:50James Harrison:He's going to have a different flight home than the team. No question.

17:57Joe Haden:John Harbaugh, I mean the Giants, that's easy. Yes, love it. Yeah, that's easy. was the Dolphins.

18:05James Harrison:Jeff Halfley. What's that one? My good man, Jeff Half. That was my DB coach for the Browns. I know. Yeah, I know. Yeah, we're going to see. We're going to see. Like you said. Oh, we're going to see.

18:16Joe Haden:You ain't putting it behind.

18:17James Harrison:Like, yeah, I feel like he's going to go and do that. I think he's going to do his thing. I think he's going to do his thing. For sure. Okay. For sure. But like you said again. How long he get? And what kind of cap space he got over there? That's what I'm saying. What's the cap space looking like? What's the GM relationship looking like? I need to figure that out before. Because I don't know what kind of authority, what kind of power is my man Halfleaf coming in there with? I don't know.

18:44Joe Haden:Yeah, I guess that's true.

18:46James Harrison:I like to know. These are really good things that we need to know, Debo, because from the outside looking in, when you start talking about how is the coach doing, was he able to, you know what I'm saying, what moves was he able to make? The talent, all of that stuff. It was him and the GM. Do you know what I'm saying? I like to know that stuff now. You made me want to know who gets the power. When you know who's got the power, it changes

19:09Joe Haden:your whole opinion how you view what they've done when they're in that position. I like it. Sala? Robert? Robert Sala? The Titans? Defense? I think they got a lot of cap space, though. Do they got a lot of cap space?

19:33James Harrison:I want to say they wanted to want to look good. They've got to. They don't have a lot of talent, so they've got to have some cap space.

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23:51James Harrison:Like, come on, Joe. Slow. I'm just saying, well, all right. You want me to keep it at being or not? Nope. If you're going to - Listen, Joe. What? We're going to respect - Slow to speak. Okay. Let's - Well, I'm just saying, Cam Ward could use some help over there. There we go. Let me put it in a different way. Okay. So I know that there's money because there's not a lot of big contract guys on the team. I got you. That's what I mean to say. I got you. You know, my man on D-line, they got some really good players.

24:20Joe Haden:We're going to see what he going to get done with his second run around as head coach. Hopefully he's able to go out there and improve the Titans' ownership right.

24:31James Harrison:You know? Yes, we're going to see. It's time. They got a quarterback. So now, while he's on this rookie deal, build. Do as much as you possibly can.

24:42Joe Haden:Yeah. Listen, I'm going to tell you the best coach, the best hire of the year is probably Mike McCarthy. That's the best hire of the year. I told you, I'm all in, Joe.

24:55James Harrison:I switched over, Joe. I told you, I'm all in. You going all in, 100%. Mike McCarthy, best hire. I'm all in, baby.

25:02Joe Haden:I told you. He got me. He got you, boy. You know he had me. You know, he putting the staff together right now. I think he just got the D coordinator from the Raiders.

25:12James Harrison:Yes.

25:13Joe Haden:He just picked him up. They're like, oh, well, he did this, did that with this, and he was only ranked that high. It was still better than what we did and with less talent. So what you talking about?

25:25James Harrison:Come on now. This is what I can't. I can't. I want the Raiders. I want him to be successful for us. I know that he did less with more over there. But I'm really ready to see execution. Like we do. Like I want to see when we get those players out there, what are we looking like? What's the scheme? What is he teaching? What kind of system? Are people running wide open? Are dudes just, you know what I'm saying? Like I got to see it. I'm not going to be quick to judge. I want to see what he can do with the talent and how the defense looks. Are they making mistakes? Are they aligned? Because, yeah.

25:58James Harrison:So I'm with you too on the Mike McCarthy because offense. You say you calling the plays. I love it. You put a name on it. So now we got a name on it for you. And now the defensive coach, I'm not going to just, oh, no, I know him. No, I don't know nothing too much about him. So we're going to give him a chance. Let's see what he can do. But I know Mike McCarthy said he's going to be calling those offensive plays. And that journey was looking junior varsity for the last couple of years. I've only seen a couple of little slants, out rounds, just basics. No, give me some sauce. Give me some flares.

26:29James Harrison:See something else he said, Joe?

26:31Joe Haden:You know what else he said? he said he's going to make sure he get well he said he's going to make sure that the receivers the knew what routes they would run in every area of that offense so that meant at the one the two and the three because yes we know you'd be z x you could be all of them you're not just stuck to one position because you don't know it you're not just stuck to one position because maybe I don't know how to read a defense as a receiver which is hard work to do when you know how to do that and we know that that sometimes happens in the league where you have receivers they actually can't read what they're looking at or don't know how to because they weren't taught it and then they go out there and it's puts your quarterback at a disadvantage to where where you should stop you keep going where you should keep going you stop and now it looks like the quarterback is throwing the ball into no man's land but the receiver is not reading what he's getting and understanding hey you're in zone sit down stop trying to run through hey it's man it's man keep going like don't just sit there like get through if it's an adjustment to it that you know should be there and then again instead of me having you lined up at one all the time.

27:55Joe Haden:No, I could put you at one, two, or three, you know, the X, Y, you know, the Z, the X, and all that. So more knowledge, more understanding. They're going to teach him more. They're going to learn more. He's going to put more on their plate, give them more. If they don't know it, he's going to teach it to them. So I like that. I like that.

28:13James Harrison:And that's where it starts when OTAs and that's where coaching comes in. When you get out there and it's not just I'm better than you and I know that I have to go run this post. When they call a play, the knowing what everyone has, you can be able to tell each person, the tight end, the other receiver, the slot, what I got to do. Just when you hear a play, da-da-da-da, X go. You're just listening for the X go. That's not knowing the nuances of the defense and the offense. So preparation, like coaches letting that stuff slide. When you're in OTAs, just the install. Install is done differently. We're not leaving these meeting rooms until you understand the concepts and what we're looking at.

28:55James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? So that takes a lot harder. The meetings are a lot more. I've been in some installs where it's kind of, you're just flying by. You're just trying to get through it because you got to get to practice. Nobody's learning it. You don't know what's going on. It's just flying by. Okay, install here. This is what we got. And you know your defense because no, just throwing in different defenses. And this is, you just know it's fire zone. You don't know what kind of fire zone it is, but I know I'm a corner. I got third, I got this. I got fire zone first. So you got to be able to really take your time, sit down, learn it.

29:23James Harrison:Everybody knows what we're doing, why we're doing it, teaching that stuff. So that's a big, big part of it too. So I'm like, that's where the execution part comes in.

29:32Joe Haden:Yeah, but that's also something else where, especially with like when I was with the Steelers from Coastal Bow was there. Each year, I couldn't learn how to do what I was doing better. I knew what I was doing. So from that point forward, I started spanning out. What is this person doing? What is that person doing? Yes. And each person on that on that defense, you know, we were together, you know, five, six, seven, eight, some guys, 10 plus years. Like now I know what you're doing. Hell, I even know what the end beside me doing. I know what the nose is doing. I know what the other linebackers do.

30:04Joe Haden:I know my corners do. I know my safety is doing when I know that. And everybody else knows that when you don't have help or work in your zone, you can now do a better job of helping your partner to help cover their zone, which in turn makes the defense better, which in turn makes everybody better. Like, you know, for sure. If you know the in and out of that defense from left to right, and I'm sitting over here on the edge, and I'm supposed to be covering curl flat, and they done already went four strong away from me. Why am I sitting over here? It makes no sense. Squeeze it on down. And then look for that deep crosser coming to back, and I can drop on back 17 deep.

30:47Joe Haden:and then everything else you come up on it like it's stuff like that that guys don't really be like oh well i did want no figure out what you do doing next to you and then space out further and further because that helps make you better it makes the team better and then when y 'all look good and you play good you're gonna go get paid good it may not be there it could be somewhere else. Yep.

31:13James Harrison:Yeah, brother. You got to be out there because like you said, too, when people next to you, when you do know your job, it makes everybody's job easier. It makes everybody, you know what the weakness is. Take away, everything has a weakness, but people are always looking out for you. When you do your job, it's putting it to somebody else to make the play. So like you said, and the same defense, if you keep coming in to a defense that you did the previous year with your dudes, you're able to learn it so much more too. Like the nuances, you know what he likes to do. You know how we like to move. Minka knew I'm jumping this.

31:47James Harrison:So if we have to cover two flats, if I go and number one's going up the sideline, Minka, I'm jumping it. You got that. You take that. Cause then that, that whole shot, that's your pick. The flat route is my pick. You know what I'm saying? We got to be on the string together. Cause if I leave it and you don't know where I'm going, I'm leaving that whole shot wide open and we look nuts. So I'm looking at you and you're like this, if number two goes flat, Joe, I know you're going to go pick that, and I'm going to go take off one's head or pick that ball off. So we're on the string. So I know I'm not leaving him out to dry, and he's not leaving me out to dry.

32:16James Harrison:We're working together. So if you get that moving, and the more that you start flowing and get to play the defenses, you hear a call. When you're young, you're a rookie, all you're trying to do is, I got cover too. I got to make sure I get a receiver. I got to make sure he goes inside. I got to squat. I got to shuffle. You're not worried about, oh my, this nigga about to run an out route. I'm like this, Hold on. What was the call? Okay, I got squat. Okay, I need to be five yards off. Hey. No, you're not smooth with it. You're not figuring it out. I'm like, what is the call? All right, I know the call.

32:42James Harrison:Go on. Now, what are they about to do?

32:45Joe Haden:Bro, I used to be over there. I'd be like, all right. They'd be like, okay, it's whatever. I'd be like, all right, run past. I got this. I got that. Okay, run to me. I got this. Run away from me. I got this. Okay. Okay, I got it. I got it. Oh, shit. They started the motion.

32:58James Harrison:Mm-hmm. Check, check. Check all shit. That's what, yes, yes, yes, yes, Debo. It's happening, live bullets. And they got motion, motion, we got the check. So that's why the vets, you come out there, you know the call, and you're like, if he motions, we're going to this. Right. Already pre-alerting it. So when you see it, nobody's panicking. So like the comfortability of everybody like, boom, boom, boom, we already alerting something. The defense is already done. We already been knowing what we got. We're trying to figure out what they about to do and how we going to adjust to it. in the fly. And that's when, like, you got smooth defenses.

33:33James Harrison:You got a dude out there trying to figure out, oh, we got cover too. Now, when it's moving to a different defense, he's like this, oh no, why did they motion? So, like, not in a bad way, but it's real live bullets. It's panic coming on the dudes that don't know their job, that aren't really comfortable in the system. You know what I'm saying? And I was out there. Like, okay, you're trying to listen in. You're looking at your safety. Please, you better give me everything. When somebody moves, I'm looking to him. Give me that. Give me that. What we in now? All right, bet. Okay. I know it, but I'm not fluent.

34:01James Harrison:I'm not good enough to call it out my mouth and then it's loud and wrong. Right. I'm about to be cold. Don't call the wrong defense.

34:09Joe Haden:I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, I think it's supposed to go to this. I think it's going to go to this. I'm like, oh, hell, that wasn't the one I thought it was supposed to be.

34:16James Harrison:Yes. Yes. We say, but if you're all wrong, if one person wrong, you all better be wrong. Let's all be wrong together.

34:23Joe Haden:And then that's something else. They were like, well, one wrong is all wrong. And then I'm I'm like, nah. Nah, put me in there with the vets, man, because they ain't going to get it wrong. I can't be waiting on somebody. That's what I'm saying.

34:35James Harrison:Yes, Debo. You know. You know. That's a hard life out there with that check. And you looking at that linebacker, he don't really know. And I'm like, whatever you say, I'm going to do. Because we're going to be wrong together or we're going to be right together. So say something. Because we're going to check.

34:49Joe Haden:Yeah. Yeah, dude. The last one we got here, your boy, he went monk and we had that already. But LaFleur got another job over there with the Cardinals. Dude, what is that? Sean McVay, right? From there, that's where he came. Dude, that's his, what, fifth? Fifth coach, something like that, that came from up under him as far as being, you know, not having a head coaching job before that or a D.C. job or anything. Like, just butt naked. That's five head coaches, butt naked tree work. I think it's LeFleur, Taylor, O 'Connor, Morris, and... That's a good... That's not Morris. It's not Cohen. That's a fast tree.

35:35Joe Haden:Cohen, that's it. Yeah. Liam Cohen, that's it. That's a fast tree. Dude, wow. Oh, Stanley, that was the other one. That's who it was. Yeah. Staley. Staley. Brandon Staley. Yeah. That's nine years, bro. Five of them. That's loose right there.

36:02James Harrison:That is. That is. That's a great job, man, being able to give it to the coaches.

36:09Joe Haden:Wasn't Shula up for something? Well, yeah, he was, but he didn't get the job. I think we was talking about here, Shula, wasn't he? Mm-hmm. Yeah. He did. Didn't he? Didn't he interview? Yeah. I think he did. I think he did. Phone interview, though. I believe it was a phone interview or something like that.

36:31James Harrison:Yeah. McVay, he's doing a great job. Young, energy. And do you think he has GM control?

36:40Joe Haden:I don't know. That's just it. I don't know. But I know what he does do. Because he's teaching the business. He develops those coaches. Yes. He develops those coaches. Or he gets coaches that can be developed. however you want to look at it. But he's putting out coaches left and right. What is it, almost one every other year? Hell, more than that. It's nine years, five of them so far. And, you know, that's just head coaches, not including people who, you know, went up to different, maybe to a DCOC or whatever.

37:14James Harrison:The thing I can see about him too is his young, he's young and his energy and he's very passionate and he's play calling he's really super duper involved and i think when you're that involved if you have the coaches under you he seems like he's in the facility all the time writing up plays was he even 30 when he got hired i'm trying to figure that out that's what i'm saying he looks like he lives and breathes ball but at the same time he's teaching these dudes because they're leaving and being able to do what he's not not do exactly what he's doing, but comparable offenses. You know what I'm saying?

37:46James Harrison:Like being able to figure out schemes, being able to get people open, not just running basic things that were back in the day. It's a new system. It's a new way of scheming people open. You got to have talent. You got to have somebody to get the ball there, but they are putting people in positions to win. All of the motions, all of the being able to analyze and understanding what the coverage is, where we can go to beat the coverage. Like all those motions and moving people around, to Kyle Shanahan, to McVeighs, that's not just for nothing. That's not just to have people moving. That's to get recognition for your quarterback.

38:18James Harrison:And I think that's one thing that all the movements that they're doing is being able to get people open. And I think that's a big thing that all of the old school coaches, they don't really do that. It's kind of just kind of sitting there and basics. So I think that that is a big, big part of it.

38:33Joe Haden:Oh, yeah. It looks like he was actually hired when he was 30 years old. So 345 days, 30 years, 354 days when he was hired as head coach of the Rams back in 2017, January. Yeah, he was barely running up on 31. That's crucial, brother. That's a great five. We got 10. Been to two Super Bowls, won one, lost one. We got all 10 coaching spots looking like they'll be fully filled here. And I guess one of the things people are talking about is zero black head coaches. What do you think about that, Matt?

39:22Obviously, I mean, go ahead, Debo.

39:25James Harrison:Go ahead. I mean, so I think that it can, I want to have black coaches out there. I think that there's a lot of good defensive coordinators. There's a lot of good black coaches out there that should be for the running. I think that right now, too, in the league, it is a, what have you done for me lately? Like, it's not like all coaches are being able to just stay where they're at. So opportunities are going to be coming up. I'm not liking that. I mean, Aaron Glenn, he was out there quickly. Mayo, the black coaches that are getting out there aren't being out there too long. But it's just the league is, the league is, the league is, what have you done for me lately business?

40:06I think the relationships of people, you're going to, if, I don't, I don't know, Debo.

40:13James Harrison:It's just, it's tough. Here, here, I think, well, I'm going to go ahead and just give it to you how I feel.

40:21Joe Haden:Or how I may have, if I was in that position. Okay, so if I was in a position where, like I said, they came up with the Rooney Rule 2003 or something like that. And from there, I think the first black coach that actually got hired that wasn't a previous coach before on another team was Coach Tomlin. that's like and that was before the uh you know that was actually the first one that was you know the first black coach that was hired as a head coach that wasn't a actual head coach before that so and the reason that was is because he killed the interview because i was there and we thought that uh i believe it was um russ grimm we thought russ grimm was going to be the person to get in and get the job and coach t came in there and he just smashed the interview like he did a great job they said and you know bah bah bah he was young you know it went in accordance with what they had been doing it was the energy it was all there and they made a good decision you know coach t was a good head coach he got a super bowl his second year went to another one two years later um so he he did he he did a good job he came in he didn't blow up nothing he actually kept most of what it was that was especially defense everything in the defense and then bruce arians was there already as the receivers coach and he promoted him to oc which again smart because you got ben just coming to his own so you don't want to just get him out of there and like the rooney rule is a good thing and it's a bad thing.

42:06Joe Haden:And for me, like, for Coach, it got him in the room, period. He wouldn't even have got in the room for that. But now, you're trying to figure out, am I getting in the room and the room is already against me because they're trying to check a box? Or am I, you know, just getting in, or am I getting in the room because they legitimately look at it 9-2? You see what I'm saying? So, and when you look at it like pride you're telling me what i got to do as a billionaire i'm a billionaire joe and you're telling me who i got to interview and how many people i got to interview like that's a lot of pride to swallow for somebody who've been doing what they want to do for most of the process of how they've been successful or having some success they had to have some success to get the billions yeah you know what i'm saying whatever that may be and yeah you know and and like i said like now you in the interview process and if you don't absolutely just smash it then you got to go in there and be so much better than the person before you because you kind of done tilted the room to me or away from me as I would if I was a dude with a billion.

43:30Joe Haden:You're going to tell me what I got to do and I've been doing it. Come on now. Look at it. 2003? I think the Lions, they got fined in 2003 for not meeting the requirements when it first came in. Pushback, dude. You're going to get pushback, dude. And it may not even be that they're against it or not, but you telling me what I got to do, like that kind of makes me want to push back just because that's in the personality of some people like and i think until you get people of our color in those positions you're going to run into what you have here and it's going to be more people hired like when it come down to it if it's you and it's it's another uh coach and he happens to be white and I like both of you guys.

44:24Joe Haden:And we sit down and we vibe out and all of a sudden, me and Joe, we got things in common. Like, I'm feeling a vibe from you. I'm not feeling from the other coach because our paths didn't cross in the same, you know, our backgrounds, all that didn't cross in the same areas. We don't have nothing to do with each other. So I'm going to go with the person that I'm more comfortable with. And that's when it comes down to a personal connection, bro. It ain't nothing wrong with it. But to try and, you know, force like like i'm just go i'm gonna check the box why because like they said they find uh detroit in 2003 and well okay i want to keep making money i want to keep doing what i'm doing i want to make everybody happy so you know what i'm gonna check the box keep it moving but when it come down to it i'm gonna get who it is that i want to get yeah you know so and i i was with

45:16James Harrison:if you, Debo, a thousand percent when you say, it's the, if you want to get the best person for the job, do you know what I'm saying? Like if he's a good coach, what is, how does that work? But like you said, if you come to two good candidates that you like, like you said, and you end up pulling both of them and you end up vibing with a person more, then that's not, I can't hold that against anybody. You know what I'm saying? You would do the same. You're not going to just hire based on, you know what I'm saying? Just because they're black or just because they're white. I'm going to hire because they're the better person to do the job.

45:47James Harrison:Now, when you get two equal things, they're like, man, they're both feeling really good. I kind of just like this person more. I mean, you know what I'm saying?

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47:18Joe Haden:He identified Jermaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years.

47:26James Harrison:I'm like, Lord, this can't be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity.

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47:57Joe Haden:Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip, a new podcast tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid. Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it, Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn Sun, Cancer Moon. The story of the sport's most consequential driver's strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom. And was Daniel Ricciardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both?

48:35Joe Haden:He started getting all this attention, and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this, I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast.

49:00James Harrison:I'm joined by Luke Combs, award-winning country music artist and one of the most authentic voices in music today. Luke opens up about success, self-doubt, mental health,

49:10Joe Haden:and what it really takes to stay true to who you are when your life changes overnight. I hate fame. I hate the word celebrity. I hate those words. They make me uncomfortable.

49:20James Harrison:But I think when you get to a certain point, the fame or the success or the influence, it just accentuates and exacerbates the inherent person that you are.

49:29Joe Haden:The guy that says he's always going to be there and that will do anything to be there is the only guy that's not there. I'm in Australia when Bo was born. My whole identity is that no matter what, I'm going to prioritize my wife and my children over my job. I dread the conversation with my son. What do you think you'd say? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You got to look and see, like, well, we don't know. How did the other coaches do in the interview? I don't know. Did they bomb the interview? I don't know. Did they not do well in the interview?

50:07Joe Haden:Like, looking at what I'm seeing with McCarthy and what I've heard from the inside and all that, the other interviews weren't so great, and he smashed it. He smashed it. And that's why he is the right dude for the job, dude. like I told you he got me to change just after I had to sit back and I was too quick to speak I had to listen to what the man was saying and be like okay yeah and then look at look at his record look at what he's done and hell even in Green Bay sorry even in Dallas who knows what part of that was actually getting handicapped by old Jerry thinking he know best Jerry is the only worst enemy like yeah the only person like like the smartest person in the room i always thought i wanted to be the smartest person in the room i just i realized a while ago i don't want to be the smartest person in the room i can't grow in that room i have nowhere else to go i need to get into other rooms okay i need to be able to grow the only person that's worse than that is the person that believes they're smartest person in the room and they're not but they have the power to quiet all those other voices in that room that's the most dangerous person in the room jerry can't get guy was on weight, bro.

51:21Joe Haden:And that may have been something where that may have been one of those instances. I don't know.

51:27James Harrison:You never know. You never know. You never know what kind of handcuffs he might have had on, what he would have been able to do, and what he's not able to do. Because end of the day, Jerry lets you know. Jerry knows. He runs that. He runs that. He lets you know.

51:39Joe Haden:He do. He lets you know. He does change any and everything. And if it's something that he don't like, he go get it changed. I'll be, I'm going, hey, I'm going into the locker room right now and I'm going to fire him. Don't y 'all worry about nothing. Jerry will tell you that.

51:54Joe Haden:Hey, listen, man. Jerry might be the only one that go in front of the media more than the coach do.

51:59James Harrison:Oh, bro. He got his interviews. He has to do his – he has a press conference to do after the game. They go meet with Jerry first. You got to get – you know what I'm saying? This is my team. These are my cowboys.

52:11Joe Haden:Yeah, we got to try and chop it up with Jerry and see what we can – see what communication we can get from him, get out of him, see what he...

52:20James Harrison:He'll let us... He'll let you know right now. That's what I'm telling you. If you ask him, he'll tell you. Maybe I'll keep it off the record.

52:31Joe Haden:Listen, I'm going to keep it off the record. I ain't going to say exactly what you said, but Jerry don't care about being on or off the record. He don't care about none of that. Listen, bro, stop playing. Speaking of talking, Justin Jeffries. Justin Jefferson. Sorry, Justin Jefferson. There you go. I'm bad with this, man. I'm bad with this. Justin Jefferson. He said he think they would have did better with Sam Darnold. Who the hell asked him this, bro? That is wild. Why are you going to ask that man that question right there in front of everybody, baby? He said. At the Pro Bowl, that was that man quarterback.

53:12Joe Haden:He said, yeah. I mean, for sure, definitely everyone knows how difficult the quarterback position this year, how difficult the quarterback position this year. And it was, you know, we dealt with it, basically. And then he went on to say, I guess, USA Today's, who is this Prince Grimes? he asked him if he thought that the Vikings could have reached the Super Bowl if they ran it back with a darnel and he said having a quarterback that's all already had a season under his belt with us knows the plays knows the playbook knows the players of course throwing to me Jordan Atkinson TJ Hawkinson all those guys I definitely feel like we would have done better but it is what it is.

54:00Joe Haden:It's on to new and better things but I'm definitely happy and proud for him that he was able to reach it this year talking about Darnold reaching it. Yes. Hey. Look here, man. Didn't they fire the GM over there?

54:18James Harrison:Yes. Well, look. This one I'm going to tell you.

54:21Joe Haden:How you fire the GM?

54:24James Harrison:He must have been

54:25Joe Haden:making the calls. That's when...

54:26James Harrison:I don't know what's going... I don't know what was going on over there. But all I know is Justin Jefferson was supporting my man, J.J. McCarthy, the whole season. You know? Like, yeah, man, J.J., believe in you. You know what I'm saying? He's young, first year, rookie, whatever. He was getting hurt, wasn't playing, so he was supporting him. Now, he's at the Pro Bowl, and y 'all ask him, you see Sam Darnold was doing what he did. Had a great—we see it. We see what he's doing. We see how great he's playing. You're going to ask them, if he was there, would it be better than if his mans was there?

55:00James Harrison:You're going to say, if you're not lying, and we believe in you, Justin, and you weren't doing nothing to mess it up all year, you were giving McCarthy all the love, support. Now it's offseason, now it's Pro Bowl, now they're asking you a question. Do you think Sam Darnold would have been better with the team other than him? And he gave his honest answer, yes. In which everybody else would say, yes, obviously. They ask stupid questions. But he got to go back to Minnesota, man. You want to get an answer. what do you want him to say? No, if JJ was healthy, you know what I'm saying? He got something on Sam, man.

55:33Joe Haden:Hey, man, this is what I love, not being a player, man. Like, I know, I know, because you got to be so... Hey, you came with that political, man. You got to be political. You got to stay out the way. If you start answering... We never know. We never know, you know. If he hadn't got hurt, who knows what could happen, you know, all that.

55:50James Harrison:I saw him, we were doing great. Our camaraderie, we were doing really good, But, you know, practices were flowing. You know, me and him, we had a little thing. Hey, I don't got a crystal ball.

55:59Joe Haden:I can't tell you the future. You know what I'm saying? No. I don't know. That's what it's supposed to be. That's what I'm saying. But look, Debo, now it is. Hey, they got rid of the GM. So I'm telling you right now, once you get rid of the GM and you answer it like that, maybe the head coach is like, yo, yeah, that was the GM anyway. So the boy only played 10 games through 12 picks. Yes. Hey, Darnold had that in the whole season last year. So I'm just saying, like, maybe this might be one of those decisions where they might be looking for a new quarterback. How do you let him go, though, for just an uncroven – and he was hurt?

56:40James Harrison:Because they wasn't going to pay him because he – well, he didn't help himself looking crazy in the playoff game on the way out. He didn't put his – you know, didn't put his best foot forward. He done did the damn thing now. He did the damn thing. But that's what I'm saying. You asked why they did it, and now they're like, oh, you know. Oh, we're going to play Sam. Should we pay them$33 million a year? Or go get this young quarterback that we can have that for the low, and now that's when they mess around. And no, you could have signed a little 30. What they call it, fuck around and find out. Fuck around and find out.

57:14James Harrison:And then, you know what I'm saying? A hand in the – when you got Sam Donald here, and you see other people with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, you like this, 33, nah, I go get this rookie for the low. You know what I'm saying? I'm not about to pay Sam 33. But a team that has a full-blown team, good offense, defense, special teams. He don't got to do crazy. He played. He had a defense. They should have kept him. Give me Darnold. That's what I'm saying. The Seahawks made the smart move. It was like this, Sam Darnold at 33, he's not at 60 million. He's not Josh Allen Lamar, but he's good enough that we have a good-ass team, and he can do it for us.

57:54James Harrison:So sometimes during the season, he still hasn't been playing crazy playoffs. He's been spazzing. He's been balling out of his mind for sure. But during the year, the Jones still sometimes, like the beginning looked good, middle looked a little foggy, and now he's spazzing. So 33 in a year, Sam, he can come through with this game right here. It shows. Coach, team, defense, offense, medium, 33.5 quarterback, and then he balls when he needs to, you can win. So they're smart. Minnesota, you wild out. 33, you try to go for the rookie quarterback, like, oh, yeah, we're going to just restart it up because, like, no, I'm not going to pay him.

58:36James Harrison:It's the quarterback contracts that throw them off. That 60, you're going to pay the best one, 60 million, Dak Prescott or Sam Darnold at 33, or then you're going to get the A-Rods where they're like, old and best, but we had to pay 12. You see what Atlanta did? There's not too many tears. There's not tears. You see what Atlanta did? They held on the Cousins.

58:53Joe Haden:They was like, yeah, just in case.

58:55James Harrison:You know, 33. Just in case. That 33-5. That 33-5. Or what we going to give? Kyler Murray, 50. You know what I'm saying? Tua Tungvalua, 48. They're like this. No. What I'm not going to do is they would have gave Sam Darnold 250, and they would have messed around and did the Tua Tungvalua, and they'd have been like this. See what I'm saying? But now he went out there balled out. But they should have gave him a three, four hundred.

59:23Joe Haden:Something just popped in my head, Joe. Something just popped in my head. Listen. Cousins to Houston.

59:43James Harrison:hey Devo I mean so are you saying that another team is going to go pay CJ Stroud the bag because he's still on his rookie deal he's going to come he's going to get the bag is he going to do you think he's going to go get the he's going to get the bag where he's going to get the some somewhere they either going to have to give him a so you said if you're saying CJ is going to get the bag

1:00:06Joe Haden:after what we've seen the last two, three years.

1:00:09James Harrison:Brother, brother, brother, brother. The bag. So, the bag is... Sam Darnold got the bag. The bag is... So, we're not talking... I'm talking the bag. The bag is 50 bag. You're talking the 60. You're talking the 60. I'm talking 50-60 bag. That's the bag. He getting the 50 bag. He might get the 50 bag. It depended on... If the Houston Texans don't let him go, he got one more... He has another year left on this deal. So, before the fifth year option. and then he's going to be able to go. He got to prove a year. This year right now, he's still going to go out there and ball. But I know a team is still signing him for.

1:00:43James Harrison:You don't think they can sign him? What do you think they sign him for if he left Houston? The Sam Darnold bag?

1:00:50Joe Haden:Listen, you got a defense there right now that is out of control. You better get something there that can guarantee if he don't do it. You telling me a cousin sitting right there right now ain't worth it to you?

1:01:09James Harrison:I'm going to I'm going to put it on I'm going to put it on I'm going to put it on CJ I'm going to put it on CJ I know he's better

1:01:17Joe Haden:I'm going to put Kirk Cousins back there breathing down your neck like a like a dragon off of I'm putting it on CJ

1:01:25James Harrison:because I know he knows he wants he knows he wants that 50 bag and he's going to be he got to go out there and hoop He did his rookie year and it hasn't been the same same, but I'm still there because right now - You don't believe in insurance, huh?

1:01:40Joe Haden:Man, I'm not - All the fix in your house. Did you fix them yourself or was the insurance fixed?

1:01:45James Harrison:They were definitely insured. Okay. They were definitely insured. But you don't believe -

1:01:48Joe Haden:Hey, get rid of the insurance, Joe.

1:01:50James Harrison:Get rid of the insurance. You talking about bringing in Kirk Cousins and - So you're bringing in Kirk Cousins and we're still - Is CJ Stiles still the starting quarterback this year or are you getting rid of him?

1:01:59Joe Haden:Yeah, I'm going to keep him there, but I need that just in case.

1:02:02James Harrison:I need to put some pressure on him.

1:02:04Joe Haden:So you going to have him right now?

1:02:06James Harrison:What you going to pay Kirk? What you going to pay Kirk? 12 to be the backup? Or what?

1:02:12Joe Haden:I'm going to pay him whatever he has for that ain't above 20. Okay. Okay.

1:02:20James Harrison:Okay. Y 'all got new cap space and all that. No, that's what I'm trying to tell you. So the money, that's where you say, yeah, CJ, no. I mean, Tua got the 48. And look what happened. I understand. I understand. That's why they, but then. He holding them hostage right now with that contract. No, he damn sure is.

1:02:44Joe Haden:He raping them boys. Over the table. That's what he said. That's what he said. That's what he said. You're answering me. I'm the best in the nation. In the nation. You going to give me that back? Oh. Nah, but... Yo, hey, hold up, though. Hold up. Did you see the boxer, man? Oh, my God. Real middle, dude. His piece, you see his piece come off, bro. His hair piece, bro. Brother Debo, I saw the joint live. Brother. I saw it live, brother. And then he threw that thing into the... Brother, brother, brother, brother. Hey.

1:03:22James Harrison:Brother, brother, brother. He was hitting him right in his hairline. And that joint popped up. Listen, bro. It got the peeking and waving at people. My brother, when he went to the side, though, bro, he had to take it off because it would have jumped off during the match. And it would have had your whole top on the canvas looking crazy.

1:03:46Joe Haden:Joe, listen. I ain't going to lie. I didn't watch the fight, right? But I'm looking at a picture where they're going through the slides of it. And I'm like, and in my head, listen, Joe, I ain't going to lie. I was like, I was like, damn, he beating that boy's ass so bad, he pushing his hairline back. Bruh, Debo.

1:04:10James Harrison:And I'm watching the fight. He kept, he kept like, they was rubbing, he kept rubbing his head all against him. I'm like, oh my, what's going on? Is he about to take his whole head off?

1:04:21Joe Haden:What made you think, bro, that that was going to hold on with all that sweat? Like, how long had he been holding on? Had he ever had a picture where he was actually bald?

1:04:31James Harrison:I don't know. I don't know. He trying to say he went and got a dye and his hair burned, so he had to go get the top. I don't believe it. Because I seen the picture. Who said that? I don't know. My brother told me that he saw something about that. I said, I didn't see that. All I'm telling you is I saw the joint on the Instagram when he went to the barbershop. Oh, you said his hair burned off, so he had to get a piece on top. Had to get a piece on top. I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I think, because his head looked clean. It looked like a regular baldy, like besides the fake line they had on the front.

1:05:07Joe Haden:Well, you know, that's how you got to do it to get a piece laid on it. I know, but what I'm saying is. Because I was about to get mine done. I was going to shave it right here, round through here. And then I was going to put it. Deebo, you was going to put a piece on? I'm going to put a piece on, but I'm going to have dreads, though. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to have mine dreaded up and tell them I went to the hair club for men, whatever that is.

1:05:31James Harrison:Debo, you can't go from the clean, clean chrome dome to the dreads.

1:05:37Joe Haden:Miracle-Gro. Like plants. Except it's hair. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what made you think that glue was going to hold with all that sweat and hair.

1:05:46James Harrison:I don't know what. And he's going in a boxing match where Buddy was hitting him right on his hairline. Bop, bop. I was like, damn. Bro. If you look back at the fight, too, I seen his bench when he went to the corner and it was sitting on the top of his head, kind of folded a little bit. I seen the man looking at him like he was talking and he was just ready. He was like, but I got to take this off your head before you go back out there. You look nuts. You know he's sitting up. Do you feel that?

1:06:19Joe Haden:Do you feel that? That breeze? It got blue on the top of his head?

1:06:24James Harrison:The glue done let loose now. It's just done balled up on top of your head. Hey, brother, I'm going to let you know you're top off right now. You riding top off. Hey, man, he won in the split decision,

1:06:36Joe Haden:but I ain't going to lie to you. I don't even know if I could have gave it to him. He just got your toupee beat off you. You know what I'm saying?

1:06:42James Harrison:Toupée beat off. Man. Had the inside of his tooth. Oh, dude. Hey, man.

1:06:49Joe Haden:He looked like he was trying to beat it off of you, too. Every time he hit him, he looked like he was trying to do that thing. Every time he hit him. Bop. Bop. Bop.

1:06:56James Harrison:Yeah, I was good, bro. That shit had me weak. You can't do that.

1:07:01Joe Haden:Oh, my goodness, dude.

1:07:02James Harrison:I think I went to the boxing match with a toupee on, bro. You can't do that.

1:07:06Joe Haden:Like, who told him that was a good idea? Like, at what point? Like, yeah. All right. He burnt his hair off. I burnt my hair off, man. I'm going to need you to give me a piece like who do you find for that like every barber ain't doing that no no no they're artists

1:07:22James Harrison:and they lied to him and said oh man this will never come off I'm going to put this high top box fade on your ass and you're going to look so good in that fight and they're going to knock it off I'm going to give you this I would give you this Will Smith Fresh Prince jump And you gonna be so clean Buck up

1:07:46Joe Haden:Hey That gotta be like That gotta be like You can't That's some type of equipment That you can't have Like that's It gotta be against some type of rules Or something Bro

1:07:56James Harrison:If you a whole boxer You need to go ahead and go in there Ball head Go in there Jump ball head Bro you about to go in that thing And box He tried to put the toupee on At a professional Boxing match Where he's gonna go Hit your hairline He's going to hit you in the face with his hand.

1:08:11Joe Haden:He was thinking that he couldn't hit him on top of the head. It'd be illegal. But he didn't realize, like, getting across that thing.

1:08:20James Harrison:The only glue that stayed was on the back.

1:08:22Joe Haden:You see, when they pulled it off, it pulled off a little bit of that skin, too. He was bleeding a little bit. I ain't lying, Joe. Yeah. I ain't lying to you. So, it worked in one spot, but it just worked enough to keep it slapping on. That's what I'm telling you. Freeze, dude. He was hitting him so hard, man. He wasn't even hitting him hard like that, but it was just popping up. The thing was just popping up off his head, bro.

1:08:44James Harrison:That was actually crazy.

1:08:46Joe Haden:Bro. That was actually crazy. Listen. Listen. I ain't even. He still won, though. Split decision. Yeah. Won it by hair. That's what they say. Oh, Lord, Joe. Listen, Joe. Listen, Joe. Listen, Joe. Won it by hair. Stop, Joe. Stop, Joe. Listen.

1:09:08James Harrison:that man got spanked

1:09:11Joe Haden:oh my goodness look here man we gotta let the people know man we will not be here tomorrow right nope we will not be here tomorrow we will be traveling to the Super Bowl we're using that as a travel day but we will be live from the media center Wednesday and Thursday 11 to 1245

1:09:35James Harrison:Wednesday Thursday, Thursday, 11. Eastern.

1:09:40Joe Haden:We'll have guests for the first time. So, y 'all be there. Yes. Tap in. Joe. Yes, sir. What you looking to do? Who you want to talk to, Joe? Don't say nothing. Give me the look. I can tell. Oh, for real? Okay. Okay. That's who? Oh, no, ain't you a damn liar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Lord. Boy, you was something, something, boy. I think you're all right, baby. Look here, man. Let's go, man. We going to be. Where we at? What's the booth? We got a booth? We ain't got a booth number yet. Anyway.

1:10:23James Harrison:We going to let y 'all know.

1:10:24Joe Haden:Booth 88. Booth 88. Come on through the media center. We going to be there. Okay? I think we might be making an appearance, you know, Nightcap with Shannon and Chad over there. Thursday night. Let's get it cracking.

1:10:41James Harrison:The homies. The homies. For sure. Joe. Yes, sir. Hey, man. It's been a pleasure. Make sure y 'all tap in with us live when we out in San Fran. We're going to see y 'all out there with our first time with our live guests. It's going to be lit. It's going to be lit.

1:10:58Joe Haden:We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Deebo and Joe. So please make sure you like, subscribe, and download wherever you get your podcasts. We'll be right back here on Radio Row Wednesday morning. And we out!

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