Deebo & Joe - MNF REACTION: Falcons UPSET Bills + Bears beat Commanders + Juju dragged BY HIS EAR?!

14 Oct 2025 · 1 h · 20 chapters

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In short

Debo and Joe is a sports reaction episode focused on three NFL games: Bears vs. Commanders, Falcons vs. Bills, and a brief discussion of an NFL suspension involving JuJu Smith-Schuster.

Guests

James “Debo” Harrison and Joe Hayden (co-hosts). No other guests are named in the provided transcript.

Key claims and notable examples

  1. Bears beat Commanders 24-22. Chicago’s kicker Cairo Santos/Moody (discussed as “Moody”) makes long field goals, including a 47-yarder after earlier misses. Jaden Daniels throws a red-zone interception and Chicago capitalizes with another long field goal. The hosts cite multiple turnovers and penalties as the difference, plus a late clock-melting run by Swift and a final 38-yard Moody kick.
  2. Falcons upset Bills. Atlanta jumps out 21-7, dominates the run game (Bijan Robinson: 19-170 rushing, 68 receiving; Drake London: 10-158). Buffalo loses via turnover battle and self-inflicted penalties; multiple blocked field goals are discussed.
  3. NFL suspension: Branch is fined about $76,624 for an aggressive non-football act involving JuJu, with the hosts criticizing the postgame retaliation and discussing the “ear dragging” moment.

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Podcast Promotions

0:35 to 1:39

Hosts promote various podcasts available on iHeart Radio.

“This time I talk to scientists, biopunks, curmudgeons, blues owners, super seniors, and Goa's top cryotherapy lab to try to understand this obsession with living forever and what it means for all of us.”

Bears vs. Commanders Game Breakdown

1:52 to 11:22

In-depth discussion on the game between the Bears and Commanders, analyzing key plays and performances.

“So another good day to be on this thing, talking that good football how we do.”

Chicago Bears Performance Assessment

11:22 to 13:13

Evaluating the Bears' strengths and weaknesses during the game.

“And the biggest thing for me, too, was at the end of the game, when they knew he had to run the rock, and he ran the rock from six minutes all the way down till they could kick the field goal when the clock ran out.”

Confusion Over Game Matchups

13:13 to 14:00

Hosts discuss the confusion of watching multiple games simultaneously.

“Like, you know, more consistent pressure.”

Confusing Game Times and Matches

14:00 to 16:00

The hosts discuss the chaos of watching multiple football games simultaneously.

“Bro, at one point, I thought the Bears was playing the Falcons and Buffalo was playing the Commanders, man.”

Falcons Upset Bills: A Game Analysis

16:00 to 19:20

The hosts react to the unexpected performance of the Falcons against the Bills.

“Atlanta came out the first play, dude, and they fumbled the rock and got lucky.”

Key Plays and Strategy Discussions

19:20 to 25:40

A breakdown of crucial plays and coaching decisions during the game.

“And then that boy Bison, the next play, takes off on him for 81.”

Halftime Adjustments and Game Flow

25:40 to 28:00

The hosts cover the halftime adjustments and how they impacted the game.

“What I don't understand with quarterbacks is if you have a receiver that's better than the corner that's guarding him, I'm going to throw it to him every time.”

Falcons Upset the Bills

28:00 to 30:20

Discussion on how the Falcons managed to upset the Bills in a recent game.

“They hold it for five minutes, and they score a field goal, putting them up 10.”

Performance Analysis of Key Players

30:20 to 34:05

Analysis of standout performances from players like Bijan Robinson and Josh Allen during the game.

“Before you knew it, it was already 21-7, had time.”
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Buffalo's Struggles and Future Outlook

34:05 to 37:45

Exploration of the Bills' struggles in the game and their need for improvement moving forward.

“So I think it was a tough game for the Bills because you can't lose a turnover battle.”

Discussion on the Browns' GM Decision

37:45 to 40:05

Debate about the Browns' decision to trade Flacco to a division rival and its implications.

“Speaking of playing the Bengals, Mike T.”

Field Conditions and Player Experiences

40:05 to 42:00

Reflection on the condition of Akershaw Field and its impact on player performance.

“I guess you don't have more experience than me.”

Field Condition Insights

42:00 to 44:04

The hosts discuss the condition of the playing field and its maintenance throughout the season.

“Bro, what you think of Akershaw Field, dude?”

Cleveland Stadium Relocation

47:10 to 50:30

The hosts discuss the Browns' stadium relocation plans and its implications.

“And my foot slides down down into the dirt, like up to like over the top of my ankle, dude.”

Juju's Controversial Incident

50:30 to 56:01

The hosts analyze Juju's altercation and the consequences that followed.

“Now you ain't got to worry about the weather stopping you.”

Discussion on Player Behavior and Apologies

56:01 to 58:44

Explore the consequences of violent actions in football and the inadequacy of apologies.

“Because he pulled his head, his face mask, and then ripped him by the face mask.”

Personal Stories of Retirement and Injury

58:45 to 1:02:36

Hear personal accounts about the challenges of retiring from football mid-season and dealing with injuries.

“Yeah, after the loss to the Giants, he retired.”

Week 6 Defensive Player Picks

1:02:37 to 1:06:39

The hosts discuss their picks for the best defensive players of Week 6.

“But at the same time, if you don't want to be there, that's a place you don't need to be.”

Fan Interaction and Closing Remarks

1:06:40 to 1:07:49

Engagement with fans through Super Chats and final thoughts on the episode.

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1:39Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing.

1:52James Harrison:How you doing today, Joe? I'm doing solid, brother Debo. So another good day to be on this thing, talking that good football how we do. No question, baby. Let's just go ahead and jump straight into it. So the Bears went on ahead and beat the Commanders by 1.25 to 24, dude. Chicago, I was a little impressed, a little not impressed, but, you know, here and there. But Chicago came out on the first drive, dude, and they went and said, you know what? We went and picked up Moody for a reason. We're going to put him to use. And they put him out there, bro. They let him get a try at a 47-yard field goal after he done got let go for missing field goals and all that.

2:37And what he do, Joe? He cashed in. Cashed in, brother. Cashed in. Cashed in. Good money. Good money. So Washington come back out there. I'm thinking they going to answer. They start moving the ball, bro. They going down the field. They get to like the 20, 21-yard line. and your boy, Jaden Daniels, what happened? I don't know what happened.

2:58James Harrison:This is what you don't need, and this is how you lose games at home. He threw a pick in the red zone. Red zone. The worst place that you want to throw it, dude, it makes absolutely, like, that kills you. That hurts you, dude. Chicago comes back out, and they about to capitalize with another, what was it, 40, 48-yard field goal. Moody dropped down on it again. Go ahead. Give it to him. They get three points off the turnover, bro. Yep. It's up six nothing, bro. Six nothing. I'm like, ah, still early. You know, maybe Washington, they go get their stuff together, you know. Dude, next possession. Dude fumbles the rock and Chicago recovers it.

3:45I'm like, okay, maybe they not going to get it together. No, maybe it's a bad day. Dude, Chicago comes in 35 yards Dude

3:5835 yards on the first What was it? Their first touchdown, it was only 35 yards They had to go 13-7 I mean 13-0 at that point Now they didn't turn the ball over Twice And then gave up a total of 10 yards on the turnovers Like, that right there is not winning football, dude. No, that's how you're going to lose games at home. Oh, dude, no question. And then Washington comes out, and actually, I think Chicago ended up helping them. I think they got a penalty on the third down that was an incompletion, and it was a face mask that helped them, and they went on ahead and scored a touchdown, and I was close again.

4:44It's 13-7, man. We got action going. Yep, we got a game. Oh, yeah. And then Chicago, they do some goofy stuff. They go for it. They went for it on fourth down. But you passed the ball, dude. Why would you pass the rock, bro? Didn't they have somebody that was doing pretty well running that ball? That man swanked. Right then and there. Yeah. I think on that same drive, he had a 10 and a 20, I think, on that same drive. Why wouldn't I just give him the rock and go ahead and let him dust up this one real quick? That didn't make no sense to me right there. He had Washington the ball back, and they got kind of lucky, unlucky, that they only – Washington only scored a field goal.

5:36Oh, man. Oh, they missed that one. They missed that one.

5:39James Harrison:That's the one they missed. That's the one they missed. And they hit the upright. That's the one that he did. That was loud as hell. It hit that uprights. Yeah, left upright. Halftime 17, 17, 13. It could have been worse, though. Halftime 13, 7. Yeah, 13, 7. I'm sorry. Daniel's come back out. He gets an intentional grounding that kind of backs him up. But they ended up settling for a field goal. So it's 10, 13 now. By that time, Chicago gets back out there, and it's the third quarter. What is it? I think they only went like six plays, and they ended up scoring a touchdown. That's what it was. They scored a touchdown, but they got a penalty on it.

6:25James Harrison:Yes. Yes. Dude, illegal formation. That's what it was, bro. Then they ended up getting the field goal on that drive. Then they ended up getting the field goal, settling for the field goal. That was weird. Hey, at least you got something, right? Yeah, no, for sure. For sure. Yeah, you got to get something. Washington, they come out. They kind of return the favor. You know what I'm saying? They go for it on fourth down. They get 13 yards. And then they actually get up because McDaniels throws, what was it, McCaffrey? 33. Yes. I'm doing 17, 16 now. Yes, yes, yes. So that's when Jaden Daniels, they started looking better.

7:07James Harrison:They took the lead. Oh, yeah. I don't know if I would have. Well, the weather was bad, so maybe I would have did the same thing, man. Then the Bears get the ball back. Yeah. This one started looking a little shaky, though, Debo. On that third, it was looking good, good, good. And then that third and one, he bobbled the snap. And when they were looking like they could have easily got that first down, Caleb bobbled it, so they lost yards. Went for the field goal, and they blocked the joint. Mm-hmm. They blocked it. Dude, there's been so many block field goals and extra points and stuff, dude. Like, what are they?

7:50I don't know what's going on. Are you allowed to jump over? Did they change the rules on that?

7:53James Harrison:You can jump over, but you can't leverage yourself. You know, you can't push off nobody. I think these dudes. I ain't seen nobody. Yeah, these dudes tall. These dudes tall, bro. Yeah. Washington come out, they go six plays, dude. 63 yards. Teddy. 24-16. Mm-hmm. I'm thinking the gate's about to burst open, bro. I'm like, maybe Washington done got themselves together, you know? And that is not the case, dude. Three plays, Chicago. 61 yards, touchdown. Who did that right there? My man Swift, brother. He was balling, like catching the ball out of the backfield, you know. Dude, little short pass, he took 55, bro.

8:37James Harrison:Took it to the crib. Dude. They went for two, but they missed that two, dude. Yep. So, I mean. So, they down. They're down. So, right now, Bears down two. 24, 22. Yeah, they end up trading punts, I think, through that. And then, I believe Washington ended up. This is when the. Turning the rock over. They fumbled the ball on the exchange. Jaden Daniels, slippery ball. You trying to hand it off. He kind of just threw it to him a little bit, but he missed it. He didn't even throw it to him. He never got a hold of the ball, dude. It was falling with him the whole time. He just, I don't know what he was.

9:17At some point, I would have panicked and just grabbed it. That's what I'm saying.

9:20James Harrison:He was trying to grab it and hand it off at the same time, and it didn't even touch my man. It was nowhere near his breadbasket, but he needed to get the rock. So that joint, Bears fell on that. So that's costly. Oh, no question. Chicago get the ball. I think it was like almost six minutes left. They end up knowing that they're going to run the rock. They hand the rock to, I think, Swift like five times. You get almost 35 yards, dude, knowing that it's a running situation. And you let these boys basically run the clock out until they decided to kick a 38-yard game with my dude, Moody, who came through and showed him why he still should be in the league, dude.

10:101 ,000%. Yeah, it's – bro, Washington, you know, they can't do what they did there. The turnovers, the biggest thing, the turnovers killed them. Like, you got to be able to at least have a little bit more ball security than that, dude. like the penalties they had too many self-inflicted wounds hurting themselves it wasn't anything that was done to him I feel like him not having what's the receiver he didn't have

10:54McClaren?

10:56James Harrison:Scary Terry yeah yeah Yeah, I think that hurt him. Not being able to have that deep threat to be able to stretch the field, I think that hurt him right there. And the offense themselves, they need to get more of a consistent run game, dude. You know? But Chicago, they went on out there, bruh, jumped on their neck. They do that. They started off real fast, 13 up. Mm-hmm. Swift, bruh. Out of control. He was balling, bro. 14 for 108. And he had 67 rushing. Tutty. And the biggest thing for me, too, was at the end of the game, when they knew he had to run the rock, and he ran the rock from six minutes all the way down till they could kick the field goal when the clock ran out.

11:54James Harrison:Like, that part of the game, being able to know, you have to run the ball. We're trying to melt this clock. we need to get down and this field goal can win the game. And them knowing he was going to run and him still running it was, my thing was like, that's going to help out Caleb Williams so much, taking off pressure, not feeling like you got to do everything. You know, they know you're going to run. And you still was able to hand it off to him, run it down there, be able to get him in field goal range, got to the 17-yard line. If we can't make that, then we didn't deserve to win. So I was happy for Swift to be able to go out there and then being able to not put all the pressure on Caleb.

12:28It's easy. Yeah, he didn't turn the ball over, which was big. So the defense, they came up big, three turnovers. They capitalized on that, getting 13 points off those turnovers. And Moody, man, if he don't get special teams player of the week, I don't know who deserved it. Like I said, Caleb, he was efficient, 250 yards or so, 17 to 29, no turnovers. That's a big thing. That's real big. But they still need to improve. They had nine penalties. And, you know, the defense need to be able to go out there and, like, you know, choke their ass out. Put your foot on their neck, you know, when it's time.

13:11And, you know, keep the pressure on them. I mean, literally and figuratively. Like, you know, more consistent pressure. And just when you have the opportunity and you're up there, you got to put them out their misery, dude.

13:22James Harrison:No, for sure. And I think some red zone efficiency. You know, like you said, when you kept being out there, they kept getting those field goals. We need to turn some of them into touchdowns. Like, it's all good. Like, no self-inflicted wounds with penalties. And then just being able to convert in those end zone situations, like being able to get some touchdowns out of that. Yeah, for sure. The next one we had, what was it? Falcons. Listen, dude, this is the crazy thing. So I'm sitting there, bro, and I'm watching these games, right? Yes. So I'm watching both games. and I don't know why y 'all keep doing this, bro.

13:57Like a seven and an eight game and I'm watching both games. I ain't even lied to you, bro. At one point, I thought... Bro, at one point, I thought the Bears was playing the Falcons and Buffalo was playing the Commanders, man. The white jerseys and the... Man, I'm... Dude, I was up there getting confused, man. It's like, T-Lo, I'm like, no, no, no, no. They ain't playing them. I'm like, dude. Especially when it's on at the same time and you're doing this, you're like, you're trying to get the split, you know?

14:35James Harrison:Yes, yes. You're trying to get a lot going on. It's a lot of football going on and you want to be engaged too. So I feel you. It's a lot of moving parts, man. I'm trying to watch two games at one time. That shit was crazy yesterday. And why do they start at 7, 10, and 8? Like, they're on at the same exact time. It's like first quarter in one and like going about to be halftime in the other one. Dude, it just, it actually, so I write things down and I caught myself writing something down on the Buffalo side that on the one game that should have been on the other game. And I did it for like half a pace.

15:14I'm like, oh my God, dude. I'm like, oh my God. What am I? It is, Debo. What am I doing, man? Look, we got to figure this out. For sure, man. Come on. If you go do that, do a six and a nine or something. You know what I'm saying? Yes. I mean, y 'all being a little greedy right now.

15:38James Harrison:You know what I'm saying? They getting to the bag, Debo. They not worried about what the hell we talking about. They getting to the bag. Hey, no question.

15:48Falcons went out there and beat up, literally, dude, beat up on the Bills, bro.

15:55James Harrison:Unexpected. Oh, yes. On my side. I'm going to just tell you how I felt. I did not expect this in any stretch of the imagination. Atlanta came out the first play, dude, and they fumbled the rock and got lucky. Buffalo recovered it, but the defense was offside, dude. Bro, it could have started so much differently. Yes. My man came out, kicked it. He stripped that ball good. Boom. And they recovered it cleanly. And it was like lined up in the neutral zone. Oh, my God. That upsets me so bad with something like that happening, especially when you have a game, turn around, play like that, and all of a sudden something that don't even really matter.

16:41Debo, that had nothing to do with nothing. His head was in the neutral zone. That had nothing to do with nothing. We lose this ball. And the running back takes off 21 yards, run through the DB's chest, head, neck, and everything else. Oh, my God. He looked for him. He looked for him, D-Bone. Hey, he was about to try and, like, dodge him. And he was like, no, I ain't going to be able to. If I try and dodge him, he might tackle me. He might tackle me.

17:08James Harrison:Nah, I went right into him. Boom. I said, oh, my God. Hey, that's football, man. That's the type of football I like. I ain't going to lie to you. I knew you loved that because I was like – I wrote it down. I said, why did he just change his – he could have scored easily with – No, he couldn't have, man. He would have took a chance of trying to get away and got dragged down, tackled, and not made the goal line. So the best way to go is not trying to avoid him. Just go straight. He would have had to take another three, four yards like this instead of just – look, it's a – what's doing? You already got a full head of steam.

17:42He coming like sideways anyway. Ryan Thorne, he did it.

17:46James Harrison:Dude, that's football. D-Bo. Me versus you. I'm here for that. I'm here for all of that, too. That was, I was like, oh, yeah. He set the tone. He set the tone. Yeah. Then Josh Allen come back out there. First play, 45. Boom. Woo. And he scrambled on another play, though. And 19. 19-yard touchdown to Allen. Mm-hmm. Now we tie 7-7. It looked like a barn burner. I'm like is this going to be one of those games where we get 40 to 43 I'm like I hate I know you hate those I hate those games so possession later Atlanta they get a stop on third and three but it's a defensive penalty which gives them a first down they end up scoring now it's 7 to 14 they got a nice little lead going now It ain't nice.

18:44It's one touchdown, but it's better than what I thought they was going to be able to do.

18:47James Harrison:No, no, for sure. Man, two drives, two tutties. I'm Atlanta. I'm geeked. You know what I'm saying? I'm feeling we're doing something right. Oh, yeah, for sure. Atlanta came back out there when Buffalo went out. They went on ahead and sacked Josh Allen that next possession on second and third down. And third. Come on. And third down. And they ended up having to punt. Defense, they did what they had to do right there. That's no question about it. But Atlanta came back out, and I'm like, oh, man, they get sacked on the first play. But what happened? It's a penalty again. Offsides on Buffalo. And then that boy Bison, the next play, takes off on him for 81.

19:34How did you not get him tackled on the sideline? Like, bite, scratch, something.

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19:40James Harrison:I'm like, when you try to push, even if you push him, like he's tiptoeing up the sideline out of your arms. I don't know how he didn't go down. Dude, I don't know how he didn't go down or go out of bounds. I know how he didn't go down. He ain't get enough of him. Yeah. And B 'Jone, B 'Jone nice though. Yes. B 'Jone nice though. Yes. And he can run it and catch it too. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, definitely. Atlanta's next possession, they go for it on, I believe it's fourth down, and they pass the rock. Why are you passing the rock? And you have Bijan sitting right there, and you're going against the 30th-ranked run defense in the NFL?

20:31And we're going to go and pass the rock for what? I don't know.

20:38James Harrison:I don't know. You know, that's just bad. That's not a bad. That's a bad play called Debo. I don't. I think these coaches, they start trying to outthink and outsmart. Outsmart themselves. What the coordinator going to do. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know. I don't know. Like, dude, this is what you're doing. They know what you. Like, make them stop it. Make them stop you. Then we get a little bit of drama. First play, Josh Allen does something that's not like Josh Allen. he throws a pick. Mm-hmm. Dude steps in front of him. Bruh. And here comes Atlanta. He got greedy. He got greedy and thought he could make it.

21:23He got greedy and thought he could make it. Saw wide open and just happened to get that second foot stepped out of bounds before he was able to lunge across. Dude, that would have... The Declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered, you know, sentences and paragraphs about Enlightenment ideals, does also have this darker history to it.

21:48James Harrison:Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence in the American Revolution? Why is it important that Americans know about it? Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagle, Goheen Dawadon, Jalakayetli, Gayla, citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big Chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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23:54James Harrison:I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you, and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain, as opposed to his brain. Here are some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That would have been 28 to 7. Debo, I'm not mad at him, though.

24:39I'm not mad at him. Oh, I'm not either. I ain't gonna lie. Listen, I'm doing the same thing.

24:45James Harrison:I know you trying to get there. He was trying to get there. It wasn't nothing there. If he was a little faster, he would have stroked off on you. I know, I know, I know, I know. He just got to get a little bit more lunge, but I ain't going to lie. I wasn't mad at the effort. And if he would have scored that tighty, it would have been ugly, ugly. Oh, it would have been super ugly. Come on, man. In the end of the half, bro, it would have already 28-7? 28-7? Not to mention, your boy B-Zon, he got 12 from 138 at touchdown and 14 receiving. Like, what, Spinks, Spinks, how you say his name?

25:25the quarterback for Atlanta. How you say his name, bro? Pinks? Pinks. Yeah. Pinnocks. Pinnocks. Pinnocks. Michael Pinnocks Jr. Pinnocks. Michael Pinnocks Jr.

25:35James Harrison:Dude, he was 12, 19, 171 in the tutty. He was dropping. You know what? He was throwing that thing. This is what I would do. What I don't understand with quarterbacks is if you have a receiver that's better than the corner that's guarding him, I'm going to throw it to him every time. He would throw it into Drake London every time because he was like, oh, he's better than who's ever guarding him right here. He's going to be open. So I'm going to throw it there. I don't think they thought Drake London had it like that. That's what it is. Man, I'm telling you. They were up, you know, balling in the first half and Buffalo was down.

26:12Like, what, Joss was 5 or 12, 98 yards. And one of those plays was 45 yards. So really, he got 40, what, 40, 53 yards on the other four plays or something. You know what Buffalo was doing too, though?

26:30James Harrison:Where's James Cook? Dude, he was only 7 to 30 in the first half. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't too much James Cook. And what happened in the third quarter, though? They come out and they go Cook and Allen all the way down the field, bro. 73, touchdown. Halftime adjustments. Hey, halftime. They halftime, and right at the game, adjustments is good. They just came out. Like, I don't know, maybe something happens later on throughout. I don't know. Yeah, I don't. They can't. They get uncharacteristic. Yeah. And then, you know, I believe in the defense, the next possession against Atlanta, they sacked dude on the first down for 13 yards, putting them behind the sticks.

27:13They couldn't catch back up, had to punt the rock. Yep. Buffalo then go for it on fourth and two

27:21James Harrison:and don't get it. With the pass, with the, then the Josh Allen with the underhand flip jump. Mm-hmm. That came up a little short. Yo, he could have, he could have probably could have overhand, he could have just, he could have got it to him. I think he was scared the dude was up on him and he ain't want to look back to see. So he just, he just tried to do the quick, the quick get it out to him. You know what I'm saying? That didn't work. No, that ain't work at all. And then Atlanta, they get down there, they trying to capitalize. But again, another field goal block, right? Like, these dudes, what was raining there, too?

28:00I can understand that. But they did get a new ball in, though. I don't know. Little here, little there. Little here, little there. The defense did good. They blocked the field goal. Yeah, I give it to them. I don't know why I'd be wondering because you know how hard it is to block a field goal bro like it's it's extremely hard to block a field goal bro I know like to get that push and and and get the hands up and make sure like and hopefully the you know the dude kicks the ball it's not as you know his trajectory is not as high as it you know it may need to be like like that's hard anyway they end up trading I believe it was two three and outs um Atlanta again with Six minutes, 43 seconds, dude.

28:45They go. 14 plays, 68 yards. They hold it for five minutes, and they score a field goal, putting them up 10. Like, that hurt them.

28:58James Harrison:Yeah. That hurt them. And even, you know, later that drive, Josh Allen, he ends up throwing it up. That kind of finish them. Yes. Because they were trying to drive down there, get down. He was trying to make sure they tried to score. Like, he wanted to score. Or then they would have the onside kick. Onside kick and then see where they can go from there. So it was damn near over once they got that last 24-14. Yeah, when they took up that five minutes, it's over with. You need 10 points. You need a score. And then you still got to get an onside kick. Has anybody recovered an onside kick this year?

29:36Shit, not that I know of. Yeah, I don't think so, man. Like, you got to say I'm about to kick an onside, and then you got to go, and you don't even get the runners starting no more. You got to get an onside kick, man. You got to do something crazy to get an onside kick, man.

29:56James Harrison:No. Them onside kicks, they was already hard to do. You got to get the perfect bounce. You got to hopefully get that thing where it bounces over the dude that's back there behind the second dude's head. So it's a lot of things. And now you can't take off, like you said. Basically, yeah, they making it too hard to get the onside kicks. Yeah. Atlanta balled out, though, dude. They started early. Before you knew it, it was already 21-7, had time. They just dominated in the run game. It was, I mean, Buffalo's defense. I mean, I didn't expect them to do that well in the run game, You know, even though Buffalo's defense, like I said, is ranked 30th.

30:38But B. John finished 19th, 170, rushing in a tutty. And he still had 68 receiving, bro. Like, that's – your boy London.

30:52James Harrison:He hit him 10th with 158. Yes, yes, yes. And damn near two tutties. He only got one. Right. But, like, Atlanta, bro, it kind of shocked me because I'm always expecting Buffalo with Josh Allen. And I don't know that the defense isn't doing too well. But with Josh Allen, I'm always expecting them to be able to score points, be able to keep it close. I don't really wasn't expecting too much from Atlanta. I haven't really seen too much to be. You think Buffalo might have been overlooking them? They could have been. But at the same time, I'm not going to take away from what they did on the field. Atlanta had to do those things.

31:32James Harrison:They had to go ball. They had to go make those plays. Pennix wasn't just throwing routes on air. People were out there, and they were making the catches. They were making the plays. Bijan was a man. I think he was just showing people who really may not be able to watch his games, but now you can really see how good he actually is. And 19 for 170, that's special. You know what I'm saying? Catching the ball out of the backfield, being able to turn it up, that's special. um yeah so they were and then Terrell like a couple of their DB their cornerback CJ TJ Terrell Terrell he's a baller and I seen him making a couple plays on those third down stops so I mean it was just a good overall effort from them but I always I just expected a little bit more from uh from Buffalo yeah I think I think Penix did a good job he was like almost 250 or maybe a little over 250 yards.

32:20Big thing, though, he had no turnovers. That's the big thing. Even though it was a couple balls that was in hands that they could have got a hold of and took the other way, but if it was a fifth, we all be drunk, too. No harm, no foul. You know what I'm saying? I think they need big thing, they need to improve on their second half, sustain the momentum from the first half, bro. That would have been And like I said, you put your foot on their throat and choke them out. Like, choke them out. Try not to get your kick blocked, too, but that's a given. But limit the big plays. You know, Allen got some big chunk plays here and there that allowed them to get down the field and be in position to score or score an opportunity.

33:09So I think that's what they really need to focus on.

33:15James Harrison:I think it was a lot too with the Buffalo. You can't, like end of the day, no matter how, you can't lose a turnover battle like that. You know what I'm saying? You can't, Josh Allen, even with those plays with the handing the ball off, with like the third downs, the short plays, the fourth and twos, the non-converting on those, that's a turnover. You know what I'm saying? On the third and one, they're trying to run the jet sweep, fumbling the handoffs and having a punt on that when you can really sustain the drive. Like those are drive killers. and then when you turn the ball over with picks, that's just not winning football.

33:49James Harrison:And then with them, you just keep – that's how the Falcons are playing well, running the ball well, converting. Bijan being able to control the clock, you not being able to have that many possessions. And if you're wasting them on turnovers, you're not going to get the ball that many times to give you a chance to win the game. So I think it was a tough game for the Bills because you can't lose a turnover battle. And then at the same time, Atlanta, they're not turning it over. They're toting it. They're converting. You know what I'm saying? the scoring. So, I mean, it was a good thing. Yeah, they was getting some pressure on Allen, though.

34:18Mm-hmm. For sure. Don't get it twisted. Either just straight rushing or they were, you know, blitzing coming with five. Like, they were, you know, they were doing what they needed to do. I understand that, you know, Josh was missing, you know, a receiver or two, a few weapons. But, you know, that's part of the game. You got to be able to, you know, go down there and figure it out and figure out what you need to do to get some quality that's close to what that person was, or at least get somewhere close to the abilities to still do the things that they could do to some extent. They need to sustain drives.

35:00It was too many penalties. I think they had eight penalties or something like that. they have to find a way to improve their run defense though if they don't do something with that it is hard road to hold and you cannot stop the run because now you got to put more people up there to try and stop it and now the play action is going to destroy you they lucky them boys were sitting in the gun because the play action is real fast then yeah you get a team that's running that rock on you, and they coming from under the quarterback, and they getting that good play action where you sitting there, you looking at a blind hand because you lost vision of the ball.

35:45You know what I'm saying? Between the tackles. You know what I'm saying, bro?

35:50James Harrison:I know exactly what you talk about. You start getting real, real, oh, where's the ball? I don't know. Boom. Dump. Now you see that the lineman ain't coming at you, So now you just start trying to dig out of there for your life, hoping you're going in the right direction. Well, you're going in the right direction of your coverage, but you don't know if that person is going to be there. For sure. You could have maybe affected something that was closer. Yeah.

36:23Yeah. I don't know. I don't know, man. I think Buffalo just looks very beautiful now to me, dude. I feel like we might, you know, I feel like we might be up there in the top two or three in the AFC period. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just how I feel, bro.

36:46James Harrison:I mean, T-Bow, I feel the same way you feel with that. Like, defense looking good, getting better. Offense, he's starting to get all the weapons. I mean, we got Washington. We got DK coming into his own. We got the real running game now with Warren. Is it a two-headed monster in Gamewell, too, with Warren and Gamewell? Just both toting the rock like that? I don't know. I'm just asking you. Is that what you said? I mean, I'm not – Steelers look good. Yeah, man. You know, I don't want to get started too early. I'm just going to focus on what we got to get to first, and that's just the North, you know.

37:23Oh, mm-hmm.

37:24James Harrison:And does that, do y 'all play, do we play the Bengals this week? Is it y 'all or is it we? I mean, listen, I'm asking you, fucking Deebo. We, okay, okay. I'm hoping it's we. We play the Bengals. I'm going to give you the we since you defected yesterday. We was in the locker room. We was in the locker room together. We, we. We, we. So we play the Bengals on Thursday. Speaking of playing the Bengals, Mike T. openly questioned the Browns' decision-making for their general manager, Andrew Barry, on trading Flacco to the Bengals. Listen to this. You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me. Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.

38:23James Harrison:But that's just my personal feelings.

38:28What's, uh, what you, what you, what you, what you take from that, brother?

38:32James Harrison:Hey, bro, I love Coach T. I love Coach T. Because you know what I take from it? I'm like, he said, we must be a lot smarter than us. He's basically at the end of the day. He wanted to play Browning over Flacco. I would say if I was Coach T and if he is the starting quarterback for your team, why would you help a division opponent in any type of way that we see as Lincoln Oil? You know what I'm saying? Like, trade him somewhere, but don't trade him there because now we got a plan. We got to go against him. He had Browning. He had the hollipops. Man, I ain't trading him nowhere that's going to be close to my division.

39:08If I can't trade him away, he going to sit there. I might even move him to three if that's how bad you feel about it. I am not going to give him to somebody that I got to play again and have an opportunity to beat me with the guy that I said, you getting traded over here because you can't do nothing for us. Maybe you could do something over there, but I really don't think you could do nothing over there. That's why I traded you to my in-division opponent. That's really what Mike is saying. I don't see it. I don't understand it. He's smarter than me. Really, what he's saying is I don't see it. I don't understand.

39:44He's a dumbass. that's what he wanted to say? That's what he wanted to say. But that ain't what he said. I can say that's what he wanted to say. I'm just interpreting what I felt was said in between the words that weren't said.

40:00James Harrison:Because when somebody pops off and say, he must be a lot smarter than me, that means he's fucking dumber than me. Hey, hey, hey, your son, your son. Hey, oh. I guess you don't have more experience than me. You know more than I do. Oh, I guess you know more than Pops, don't you? Oh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So, like, I know he's being cyber sarcastic with it, but at the same time, going against the division... What'd you call it? What'd you call it? What? Sarcastic? No. What was the word before that? What was the word I was saying? I thought you said cyber. No. I'm like, what that mean? No, no, no. You said cyber sarcastic.

40:41I'm like, what's that one?

40:42James Harrison:No, no, no. sarcastic. Because, you know, I think Coach T is making a thing then, Joe. I think Coach T is saying something for real, though, bro. You know what he's saying. He don't believe, like, you're not supposed to do that. And especially, he started for us. He started for the Browns. You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey. You know what? That might make sense why he didn't release me early in the season when I was asking for it my last year. No, bro. No, he's not. No. No, no, no. What you going to have you go there and try to bust up the quarterback for this? No. You going to sit right here.

41:18James Harrison:He mad. You're not going to go over there. You ain't going nowhere. No. No. Sit right here for a minute. I almost got a chance, though. If they had won that playoff game, we would have seen them in New England, though. Oh, man. See, I know that. I ain't going to even lie to you. I would have been foaming at them mouth like a rabbit dog got rabies. I'd have been like Cujo. I'd have been like Cujo. And that's why Coach T know not to do it. Because look at you. Look at that. I don't know. They don't want none of that smoke. D-Boat, that additional bulletin board material? No. Hey, no question, man.

41:59Aaron Rodgers has something to say about the Akershaw Field, man. He said, it is borderline unplayable. Bro, what you think of Akershaw Field, dude? Well, I think it was Akershaw Field when you played, or was it Heinz Field? It was Heinz. Yeah. What do you think of the field, period? It's still cared for by the same crew, I'm assuming. They don't change crews.

42:21James Harrison:I mean, it definitely wasn't the worst, but it definitely wasn't the best. I like that it was grass at least, but I think during the beginning of the season, it'll be better than at the end of the season. Maybe all the events and all the stuff that they got Pitt playing on it and everybody that uses the field, it kind of gets a little wore down. But at the beginning of the season, it wasn't mad at all. But when you play there towards the end, you can tell there's been a lot of wear and tear. So they can definitely do – the main thing is keeping that field right. They can do more of trying to keep people off of it, you know what I'm saying, as much as possible.

42:54James Harrison:But if not, I mean, just maintenance in it. I don't know how they could possibly do it. But the Browns field, I know, that joint was maintenance. This one, I would say this, during the beginning of the season is good. Yeah, I'm with you. It's multiple uses for it. Like, I believe, I don't even know if it's the time, but I think sometimes they may even have, like, concerts in there or something or some type of show in there. But the big thing is, like, you got two different teams playing on the surface. And right now, it ain't even bad. Aaron, you ain't seen it bad yet. Wait till the playoffs for the high school start.

43:30The high school teams are playing in there, and they may or may not be able to get the field back right. Like, grass don't just grow overnight. you know what I'm saying real natural grass like it don't it don't just grow overnight and to spend the money spend the money to reside it you still need a few days for it to you know take yeah when we played and I think it was 2007 it was raining raining raining and I think uh Pitt had played before that or something and so they tried to do a swap over of the field and they put the new turf over the old turf because I guess it was like so wet, dude. And it just, the ball, like it's plays where you can see.

44:15The Declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered, you know, sentences and paragraphs about Enlightenment ideals, does also have this darker history to it.

44:27James Harrison:Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence in the American Revolution, why is it important that Americans know about it? Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagle, Goheen Dawadon, Jalakayetli, Gaylan, citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big Chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

45:14James Harrison:The World Cup is underway and it's been incredible. On our podcast, The Away End with Daniel Alarcon and John Green, we're talking about the games that have delighted us, the teams that have inspired us, what we're loving and what surprised us, all through the lens of being massive fans of the world's most beautiful game. Daniel, this tournament has been magical so far. The expanded field of teams has created some incredible matchups that have already made this World Cup one to remember. And now things get even more exciting with the intensity of the knockout rounds as the field is whittled down to one World Cup champion on July 19th.

45:47James Harrison:When you say it like that, I get a pain in my heart that the tournament is over. But there's a lot of soccer yet to go. And if the first few games of the round of 32 are any indication, anything is possible in the lead up to the final. We've got it covered from an Ultra's perspective here on The Away End. So listen to The Away End with Daniel Alricone and John Green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

46:14James Harrison:I'm Munga Shatikula, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast Skyline Drive. This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever for all of us. I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain. Here's some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster but I did not expect to be almost a four to five year acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble.

46:59I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know.

47:06James Harrison:Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're playing Miami. I think PZ had just went there in 2007. And my foot slides down down into the dirt, like up to like over the top of my ankle, dude. It's like quarter way up my shin. See, that's not okay. Oh, dude. Like he ain't there. He ain't seen nothing yet. What they doing now is, you know, the sand, dirt, all that. They just filling in the divots, sprinkling it down with some water and throw some grass seed. But, you know, it's only been, what, a week in between the last game that was on there, maybe two at the most.

47:50Mm-hmm. It needs more time than that. And then before that, I think Pitt was on it every weekend for two weeks straight. I think they may actually use it on Friday and Saturday when they play Saturdays. Yeah. So, yeah.

48:03James Harrison:That's not going to keep you. Like you said, it's natural grass. It takes more than a day to grow back. And if you got other people using it and breaking it down, like you said, I didn't know high school games was on it. I just do it with Pitt and probably like some concerts and stuff. But the more that you use that feeling. Yeah, and the playoffs, dude, they have a lot of games there, bro. Yeah. Yeah. That's going to break it up. That's going to have – no, you got to keep the main thing the main thing. Yeah. Your boy Haslam, Cleveland. They got a new deal going. Brook Park, they moving to Brook Park?

48:38Yes, they are. You like it over there? Is it a good area? What's going down? What's better? Which one would you like to – or which one would you prefer?

48:47James Harrison:The Browns fans probably want it downtown. in the city, in Cleveland, like around downtown where the basketball stadium is and where the Indians, I mean, where the Guardian Stadium is. Everybody likes downtown because that's where it's always been. I know the Haslams, they're going to make it look amazing. They're going to build it in Brook Park. They're going to build like a whole hotels and restaurants and all of this stuff. It's going to look great. Where is Brook Park in comparison to downtown? It's probably 20 minutes away. It's like right by the airport. Oh, it ain't that far. Oh, no, it's not far at all.

49:20James Harrison:It's 20 minutes away from where it's at right now. Literally 20 minutes down the street and they're going to make a whole, they're going to make it look amazing. I think the city's just a little upset because they want it downtown. They want to keep Cleveland and everything like kind of down there. I know for one thing, whatever the Hazems are going to do, they're going to make it look beautiful. And they're going to be able to make all the money from the stuff like the parking and all that. They're not being able to get that when they have the stadium downtown right now. That's what it is. So when they come build their stuff, they're going to be able to make a whole lot of money.

49:51James Harrison:And it's going to be beautiful for Cleveland. There's nothing really down there. So I think it's going to make Cleveland look dope. If it ain't nothing down there, where are you going to go to? You know, where are the fans going to go to when they don't? They're building it. I'm telling you, he's building a whole stadium with a whole little city. Oh. The Browns did. The Patshams are going to, they're not doing it like baby. They about to spin some dough. And this joint's going to look crazy. but it's just moving it from downtown to another location. That's what Cleveland's worried about. I know it's going to look vicious so when they go in, it's probably going to have a dome so then they'll be able to get like at the Super Bowl.

50:26James Harrison:You can't host the Super Bowl if you have a dome. You know what I'm saying? So certain things they can do. Concert, venues. So it's going to be a dome. I think it's going to be a dome too. Yeah, it's a dome. Now they get a Super Bowl. Now you ain't got to worry about the weather stopping you. Ain't got to worry about none of that. Have we ever got a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh? I don't think so. I don't think because I think you got to have a dome or something like that, brother.

50:48Yeah, we ain't going to never have one in Pittsburgh. They ain't about to get no dome, baby. They ain't going like that. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. They ain't never about to get no dome, man.

50:56James Harrison:That's why Cleveland, man, they ain't... Cleveland ain't think we ain't ever going to get no dome.

51:06So it's a dome or it's not a dome? You said you think it's a dome. You don't know if it's a dome? I think it's a dome for sure. You think it's a dome for sure. is that not a what hey I'm a I'm 100 % right all the time most of the time

51:25James Harrison:that's what you just said to me I know I just said some bullshit Debo I just speaking of bullshit man I did you caught me on it good too for firing off on Juju I really just said that What did you say? No, my bad. Go ahead, brother. I really just said some bullshit. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. So the NFL suspended Branch for firing off on Juju. It's going to cost him$76 ,624. Branch is planning to appeal it, but the vice president of football operations, John Runyon, said on the penalty, your aggressive non-football play act was entirely unwarranted posted a risk of injury and clearly violated the standards of conduct and sportsmanship expected of NFL players your conduct reflected poorly on the NFL and has no place in our game Brent said uh I did a little childish thing, but I'm tired of people doing stuff in between plays and refs don't catch it.

52:35They trying to bully me out there. I shouldn't have did it. It was childish. Hey, listen. I'm going to tell you this right now. Go ahead. Pop off, D-Bow. Look at this picture, Joe. Can you please put the picture up? Look at this picture, Joe. You see that picture, Joe? Yeah, man. I want you to look at Juju's left ear. This man is dragging him around by his ear. Yeah. Bro, that's... That's so disrespectful. Punch me in the face, bro. That's something my mama do. Well, not my mama. Other mamas do. My mama go beat the dog shit out of you. Yes, mama. Okay. You go drag me. You see his face. He getting drugged by the ear.

53:18Juju, what's going on, bro? You can't get... You can't have this on national everything. Dang. They seen you get drugged by your ear. What you should have did, instead of after he hit you and you did the fake fallback, you should have just fired back right then and there.

53:37What's your take on it? What do you think? Or how would you have responded? You got down here with your ear getting grabbed. You know you got some big ears, too, bro. He might have messed around and ripped that off.

53:53James Harrison:See, Debo? There you go. shut your ass up, Deebo. Come on, my ears, man.

54:00James Harrison:Look, this was popping, Deebo. I would have definitely had to fire back off on Branch if he popped me right in my head after the game. Natural reaction would have been boom, boom. That's just natural reaction. Because at the same time, we the same. You coming over here, like, boom. But this is my part. I think Juju, did Juju know when he hit him in the back? Not hitting him in the back, but kind of like crack back on him, that he was feeling some type of way. Oh, so he popped him in the game. Or was it? No, he popped him in the game. And that's what my other part is with Branch. It's not right to come in and steal off on somebody after the game when you said people be doing stuff all in between the wrists because the refs don't call it.

54:41James Harrison:I'm like this, you in the game too. Catch him, you know what I mean, slipping. And then you're going to be good, and then there's no$78 ,000 fine. You're not having to like literally fight somebody after the game is over. Now it's time, like, people go into the locker room shaking hands. Like, you had so much time during the game to pop off on Juju or, like, just catch him. If they, you saying. You got three hours. You got three hours to go ahead and try and steal on him one good time legally in between the lines. And we on defense, too. So, you see him, Branch. You could just, one time, you know what?

55:13James Harrison:There's a tackle play going over there. Boom, I'm going to just file off on Juju. It's in the play. Like, you might not even get a flag. You know what I'm saying? It would just be. Just be close to it. Just be around it. Just be close to it and make sure he close to it and go ahead. I just ain't like him stealing off on my man after the game is over. That's just my whole part. And then, obviously, Juju got retaliated. Juju, you could just fire back. After the game, he tried to pull the fake jump, the bluff. Right. I'm like, oh, it's a fight now. No. The game's over. Game's over. It's a real fight.

55:48James Harrison:Now he's right there. Unless somebody's like, when they step up, I'm like, hold me back. Hold me back. I'm like, nobody's holding back right now. Everybody's here chilling. No question. Something can really go down right now. And it got, and it got, and it just started getting to it. So that was unfortunate that my man got on the ground and started pulling my man's ear. He dragged me by his ear, bro. He got the. Because he pulled his head, his face mask, and then ripped him by the face mask. He ripped the face mask off and then started dragging me by his ears. Come on. I don't condone, I don't, I don't condone this sort of violence.

56:18James Harrison:No. I don't condone it at all. and I know you don't also. I'm just saying that it was just crazy how he popped off on my mind. I don't condone that kind of violence, yeah. Because I was going to say any kind, but I condone some kind of violence. Yeah, there's some type of violence. And Branch's apology, man, that ain't no apology. You can't say I did the childish thing and then go with the excuse. The but? The but. When you say sorry, but, that's like me being like, hey, Joe, man, I'm sorry. for hitting you in your face. But you know you shouldn't have said what you said. No. No, no, no. After that.

56:56You can't hit the butt.

56:57James Harrison:That kills everything that you said before it. You can't do the butt. He did a butt. But I'm tired of people doing stuff between the play and the refs don't catch it. They be trying to bully me. And I don't? I shouldn't do it. It was childish. Dude, I'm not yet. I can't. No. they was fine to me for plays on the field and I was losing it I got suspended dude for a play on the field I'm not trying to lose no game check you know what PZ that was my first start man my first start I ever got was PZ fighting dude at the Burroughs? yeah green before the game dude that was my first start I got dude hey and the thing It was.

57:46He spit on me.

57:49James Harrison:I totally forgot that, bro. No, he spit on Peasy? No. Peasy spit on him. Yes. Yes. That's what ended up happening. You could find the tape. You could see it. A little. Like that right there. Yeah. He got suspended. Well, just for that game. He lost the game check. Of course, you lose the game check. I don't even know if he lost the game check, though. I think they might have just kicked them out the game, to be honest with you. I don't even think they got fined for that. You know, back in the G day. Back in the G day. They like, man, just go to the locker room, man. 2004, 2005, something like that.

58:28James Harrison:You sent them. Yeah, that was. Damn.

58:35Good old time. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yo, speaking of good old time, man, the Eagles, like, my dude said it was time. He retired. midseason. Smith. Yeah, after the loss to the Giants, he retired. So, yeah, dude, dead. Dang, bro. I was, I liked the very season. That gotta be, like, just looking at a statement, like, it gotta be something, like, real, like, personal going on. I don't know too many people that just, without some other issues or or something going on, you know, personally that just, you know, retires in the middle, you know, of the season.

59:23James Harrison:You know what, Debo, I think dudes now are starting to just, you know, I think he probably was thinking about it for a little bit. And then once you get into the season, things start not really rocking the way you kind of wanted to. And I know Sedaris, he's been in the league for a while, kind of OG, made a little bit of, made some bread. you know, it could just be, man, I don't feel like doing this no more. You know what I'm saying? I don't know, man. I can't do that. I guess that's just me personally. Because when I came back to the Steelers in 2014, bro, and we were playing, we were about to play Tampa.

1:00:01And so they signed me back up, and I'm out there. And the first practice, it was, I believe it was that Wednesday, right? And, you know, that's full pads. So, you know, we go, we do the pad thing, man. That next day, bro, I was like, yo, I can't believe I signed. My body was hurting me, bro. I was so hurt, dude. Like, I'm sitting there like, you know what? I don't know if I really want to do this. Like, I know I did. Like I'm doing it only because like my brothers, it's guys that I've been with for, you know, for 10 plus years. It's Troy. It's Ike. It's Keisel. I'm like, you know what? My kids say, yes, I can.

1:00:50So I came back and now I'm sitting there. I'm like, yo, I can't, I don't even know if like, I might have to, dude, I can't come in for practice the next day. My body just did not, dude, it took a good, probably a good three, four days for my body to get back right. And then we had a game. So we playing against Tampa, right? So, bro, into the game, they're like, yeah, we're going to use you sparingly, you know, maybe 15 or so snaps. I'm like, all right, cool. I can work my way back into it. Man, 43 snaps later, bro. I'm like, oh, my God. Fresh off, dude, fresh off the street, bro. Off retired. I mean, I was only retired for like 14, 15 days, two weeks, something like that.

1:01:36But like, I'm like, yo, I haven't went through, you know, training and none of that. Like, I'm like, no, this is not. Yeah, this is not this is not me. And the only thing that stopped me was like, I was like, you know what? My daddy said you start something, you finish it. Yeah, I finish it. And that's the only thing that kept me going, bro. Right. And then, of course, I felt, you know, I went back into the emotions of being, getting used to it, liking playing again, falling back in love with the game. So I ended up signing, you know, a couple more years after that. But, dude, I just, I don't know if I could, I could do that and just be like, yeah, I know, you know, I was supposed to do this or do that.

1:02:26unless, like I said, you're dealing with something real personal, you know, that you need to remove yourself from it, you know?

1:02:34James Harrison:Yeah, it could. Like you said, too, you never know what people are going through. It could be family. It could be that. But at the same time, if you don't want to be there, that's a place you don't need to be. You can't play football, NFL professional football. So if you're kind of like your heart's not in it, you're not trying to be there, you know what I'm saying? Listen, listen, my heart was in it. my body wasn't cooperating with me. My heart was saying my body was tripping. You a good man. The pain, the pain, bruh. My low back, bruh. Like, it was not good. I'm sitting there, and it was, we're playing the game, right?

1:03:16And I go to jump over the dude, and as I go to jump over the dude, like, my feet get hit, and I land on my back, right? Man, you know, I don't jump that high. Like, I already had, you know, I had a couple back surgeries, so I ain't jumping that high, man. I couldn't have been no higher than, like, this off the ground, but I landed on my back, bro. I think I told you this, man. I look at Mike T. He look at me, and then after the game, he was like, yeah, I saw it on your face. You was about to make a business decision, huh? You was thinking about giving it up. I was like, yeah. Like that, dude, it hurt so bad.

1:03:46I was like, oh, my God. I didn't believe grass could feel this. That was the worst thing ever, man. So Thursday, we're going to go on out here, pop on them bungles. I mean, bangles. My braces keep messing up my words. Braces mess up when you want them to mess up. But before we do that, oh, it messes up when I wanted to mess up. Okay. But before we do that, that's the start of the new week. Who is your Week 6 defensive pal of the week?

1:04:27James Harrison:Man. Who you going with? We going to go with the newcomer, Yvonne Miller, the defensive end for the Broncos, number 15. What did he get? What did he get? What did he got? All I know is I think he had two sacks. Two sacks? Two sacks. He balled out. And I just liked him because I was happy that the Broncos, they used their picks that they got for Von to get him. And he's just been having a great year. Man, I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to go with Devin White, linebacker for Vegas, man. Dude had nine tackles, one sack, one forced form on, and an interception. Oh, man. Yeah. Devin White, he used to be with Tampa.

1:05:16James Harrison:Yeah, that's my good man. Let's go. Team Jordan. He's a Jordan brand athlete. Is he? Hey, speaking of Jordan brand, let's get back to that. Joe, I don't know if y 'all know this. Joe's supposed to give me some Jordans. Oh, shucks. I kept on forgetting what's... And you say, hold on. You decide 13? 14. You keep forgetting every time I tell you about it, but I ain't going to say nothing about it. I'm really looking for some of them... You know, what is they? I don't even know what they is. There's so many Jordans out there. But anyway. Debo, you tell me. It didn't even matter. I said I just wanted some change.

1:05:55James Harrison:And I know you the J, man. This time, Debo, I promise you. I got to go talk to Jordan? Nope. You don't even got to talk to him. I got you. You got to go directly to the source. You know what I'm saying? Size 14. I thought you was the source. You know, I could be wrong. All right. Look. Maybe you ain't who I thought you was. I thought you was that dude. Tap into me offline. Tap into me offline. Okay. I was just checking, man. I thought you was that person. I almost said it. Anyway, man. We got to the end here, man. So what we're going to do here is... What's that right there? We got a... What we got there?

1:06:39James Harrison:Super Chats. Okay, Debo. What are the Super Chats talking about? I can't where is that oh little is that little David 6-1 said whatever we hurt Jalen Daniels the refs made up for it BS call in Chicago what the hell is he talking about alright man whatever don't know what you're saying man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks for watching, buddy. Hey, listen, we want to thank y 'all for joining us on this episode of Deebo and Joe. On every episode of Deebo and Joe. Like, we really appreciate y 'all. We need y 'all here, but when you write something that I can't read fluently, that's what you get. You need to put some punctuation in it.

1:07:34Hey, make sure you like and subscribe. Joe.

1:07:38James Harrison:Yo, make sure you like and subscribe, man. We're going to be back here on Friday to talk about how our Steelers whooped the bangles. And so, yeah, we're going to have detailed messages about that. Let's get to it, Debo. R and we. And we out.

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From the publisher

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to a Monday Night Football where Michael Penix Jr. and the Atlanta Falcons took down Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills, and Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears defeated Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders. Later, they recap the biggest storylines from Week 6 of the 2025 NFL Season!

Timeline:
00:00 - Bears beat Commanders
15:00 - Falcons Beat Bills
35:40 - Mike Tomlin calls out Browns
40:00 - Rodgers calls out Steelers field conditions
43:25 - Cleveland Browns moving stadiums?
46:50 - Brian Branch suspended
53:30 - Eagles' Za'Darius Smith retires
59:00 - Defensive Player of the Week

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